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Rogue lineage doesn't need ultra classes to win, just send an Ashin freshie and he will solo half the Deepwoken verse. Back in the day, I did 1s with my guild leader who was an uber-spy and I almost bodied him as an Ashin freshie after getting my Oni wiped to gank a day prior
Or maybe think about it they could work on balancing and making their goddamn game not have infinite combo mantras and a Unreactable instant posture break critical on a already busted weapon class greathammer
Reaconteur imagine this, Shinobi finds detonation tanto from chest or yun'shul tanto from depths lionfish chest then pops res and every hit of him procs the enchant oneshotting the Deepwoken character. Absolute Reaconteur Cinema.
your unable to play rogue anymore if your new, you just walk into anywhere and 10 onis pull up and turn you into a vampire then tell you to log after buring your corpse
comparing deepwoken gods to rogue lineage gods is probably like comparing greek gods (not really all powerful) vs God god. rogue lineage gods are like incomprehensible cosmic horrors that could just accidently sprout entire worlds, even rag said tenebrae are far beyond gods
@@ReaconteurYa’Alda also has the power to send you to a whole new realm with its own concepts, logistics, ideas, and laws all with a snap, existing in both places at once soooo
Doesn't like Arch_Mage mentioned that Drowned Gods are far more powerful than Rogue's Gods? But tbh I could be wrong since that was like from Deepwoken release
nonono, unc reaconteur, you left out an important detail. the bad drip of the deepwoken player character would make the rouge player character die on the spot.
Well, there's also the issue that insanity can't outright kill in Deepwoken, and the fact that there are sanity restoring talents and abilities. Saltchemist could straight up outregen the insanity. Deepwoken characters also deal a fuck ton of damage. Like on the higher end it takes maybe three m1s to kill a rogue lineage character. As for running, there's bs like gravity field and corrupted gravity field, the auto tracking mantras would straight up obliterate their HP in thirds. Then there's Deepwoken's own version of mage builds which will actually just put rogue lineage characters in infinite ragdoll/stun and deplete their HP instantly.
I really wish deepwoken was more focused on the world building and lore than the pvp. The game feels more like a anime battlegrounds game now than an actual experience.
If you stretch a lot and assume some stuff both deepwoken and rogue characters scale decently high because they can dodge lightning, block primadon's attacks with a sword, shoulder throw lava snakes and gorpigs
Vind alone probably eradicates most builds. Mainly if its a sc shinobi thue to mobility, Regen and Tempest soul being “The Truth”. Not to mention Gaian Shinobi.. grapple, heal, Repeat. and if they have blade master. Then there’s Necro… (Armis)
meat lord likely solos all of deepwoken and rogue lineage except for big hoss. he can canonically low diff any drowned god (all of which destroy the world upon awakening) so rogue gods probably arent too hard. agamatsu has said that meat lord vs big hoss is a stalemate and dorgan doesnt compare
dorgan is canonically stronger or equal to big hoss being his trainer, also rogue lineage tenebrae dark gods are canonically way stronger than drowned gods creating universes with their leaking power
Something i swear literally nobody has noticed or mentioned is the fact that yalda (i forgot how to spell it) the god that sends you to khei is just sitting in the room for starkindred as a background asset
we do NOT have little information on the gods of Rogue. theres Solan, Ardour, the one B who made the Gaians, the god that created Gaia as a literal sub dimension, and plenty more
@@ElBoboduro im a rogue addict too but im gonna be real the progression isn't the issue cause u can literally get ultra requirements after like 12 assasinations or some jails plus a few quests khei prog another story though (but basically nobody plays khei so eh) i don't really mean anything crazy or anything i just think there should be a more effective defense mechanic other than just a regular block cause the amount of shit that can 1 combo u is crazy
@@flappyflap2693 no, progression is HELL. You have to search YEARS for a good server, there's always some undercover guild observing your every move waiting for you to reach day 1 for their 200th necromancer, literally nobody you can hunt solo, or servers with a few too many gaia dwellers. I'm at the point where I have to boost myself because regular progression is impossible. Khei is just a different type of hell I didn't wanna mention it. I kind of like the simplicity of defense, however you're right its quite weak, but the main issue are the combos not the defense - they should get counterplay through nerfs. Except from macros, pvp in gaia is pretty fun.
man forgot deepknight :( I feel like deep knight would have a huge chance fighting deepwoken characters considering how broken it is (to be fair, the spear classes following abomination are just outright broken. base can kill super, super can kill ultra, ultra can kill uber, uber kills all) but i dunno, maybe it's just me
honestly the gorpig imo is stronger than like any npc besides squibbo and bosses (point would still go to deepwoken) and idk why we didnt talk abt oni boss which could take down at least 2 humanoid bosses from deep not to say rogue would win but it was definetly underhyped
u can permanently hold F against a gorpig and they cant kill you, the only move that guard breaks is their jump slam, which can be perfect blocked, and hardly does much damage. The oni boss (assuming its big hosses shadow) has the hp of a howler which is 2 1/2 rising dragons to kill. im a rogue glazer but a gorpig is not strong
@Reaconteur true, but inanity only kills under 3 conditions, your health hits zero from insanity (If you build right, that's almost impossible), nlk in the depths, or the brains in the rotlands
no not at all, what the corrupt mage uses isn’t an equivalent to the song, mana is a supernatural force that buffs the users physical capabilities (which is why we can mana run, climb, dash and such) and allows for unnatural displays of power (using spells and godspells), meanwhile the song is imbued within the user and is a collective reservoir of power and “magic” connected to everyone, even Primadon contains part of the song within him, and so do Sharkos, which is why they can both utilize the Ardour scream. Tranquil circle shuts down usage of the song for the user and anyone else affected, but only through the conductor of the usage of tranquil circle, meaning tranquil circle itself won’t shut down, similarly to how a heroblade doesn’t affect the user (flame hero blade doesn’t burn you, frost doesn’t freeze or spawn crystals on you, gale doesn’t suffocate or cut you, thunder doesn’t shock you, and neither does shadow constantly steal your ether like enma). Hope this helps
1. deepwoken wins the pve (even tho its useless and boring) just better mob designs 2. rogue just has better god designs with big hoss or the prince 3. rogue wins character power easily
isnt it unfair that u compare classes that strongly rely on tomeless to a full deepowken build mantras? like if we gonna look full potential rogue lineage, deepwoken couldnt stand a chance. like how they gonna break manashield? how they gonna avoid full stun double slayer combo? what they gonna do about grapple repair shinobis? what about edicts wich makes rogue lineage characters much stronger. rogue lineage solos deepwoken verse
I think rogue has a upper hand in combat against deep characters, NOT A SINGLE Trackstar would catch up to any rogue class with spider cloak and snap geli, or imagine monster hunter, what are deepwoken characters supposed to do against a guy that is Litteraly flying spawning in a whole army, And also I think it’s incorrect to use the hp numbers from both games, like 500 hp deepwoken char vs ≈200hp rogue class, both chars at their prime should have same hp basically ≈150 hp from rogue converts into 500hp in deep
@@Reaconteur wouldn't dodge frames just be a game mechanic and not an actual thing also if it was they still have to react or at least have some level of prediction other wise they would dodge to late, given the average players skill and take that into the lore they should be moving at relativistic+ speeds, not counting the dodge frames which would just be the ability to phase through objects while having the thought process of dodging which would only upscale them.
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Payback is gonna go hard
I remember u make this kind of video like 5 times already
@@Minh2438 no i didnt this is literally powerscaling
Rogue lineage doesn't need ultra classes to win, just send an Ashin freshie and he will solo half the Deepwoken verse. Back in the day, I did 1s with my guild leader who was an uber-spy and I almost bodied him as an Ashin freshie after getting my Oni wiped to gank a day prior
💀
Try not to lie challenge
Not anymore bud they buff ultra years ago and it offically not possible for a freshie to kill an ultea
@@KoKo-gm2xbwhat I’m saying bro ts never happened
@@Reaconteurwhy did you heart this comment like this is a true story
Deepwoken should take some notes from rouge and add the chef sub class as the chef oath🙏
or the devs could put their resources into important stuff
@@random6498 or dev could put their ressources into 15 critical weapon
@@random6498they have added too much weeb shit give us real man shit i wanna bbq with a grill and flex on all the other oaths
Please bro im begging you its not funny ur not sushi
Or maybe think about it they could work on balancing and making their goddamn game not have infinite combo mantras and a Unreactable instant posture break critical on a already busted weapon class greathammer
Reaconteur imagine this, Shinobi finds detonation tanto from chest or yun'shul tanto from depths lionfish chest then pops res and every hit of him procs the enchant oneshotting the Deepwoken character. Absolute Reaconteur Cinema.
@ohmeohmicah impossible to parry rogue tanto 😭
@ohmeohmicahthe agility + bane macro in question
your unable to play rogue anymore if your new, you just walk into anywhere and 10 onis pull up and turn you into a vampire then tell you to log after buring your corpse
There is a menu button for a reason
comparing deepwoken gods to rogue lineage gods is probably like comparing greek gods (not really all powerful) vs God god. rogue lineage gods are like incomprehensible cosmic horrors that could just accidently sprout entire worlds, even rag said tenebrae are far beyond gods
oh then i guess they solo
@@ReaconteurYa’Alda also has the power to send you to a whole new realm with its own concepts, logistics, ideas, and laws all with a snap, existing in both places at once soooo
@@randomperson290 some upper class weirdo (Laun) literally consumed one of the gods (Gudriba) for power, they are not that strong bro 😭
Doesn't like Arch_Mage mentioned that Drowned Gods are far more powerful than Rogue's Gods? But tbh I could be wrong since that was like from Deepwoken release
@@gronkii that doesn’t mean they’re weak lmao
Never change your content style man
won’t
nonono, unc reaconteur, you left out an important detail.
the bad drip of the deepwoken player character would make the rouge player character die on the spot.
Black dye Shinobi
Real, I’m tired of these guys who think they’re so cool when they wear fifty hairs and have their eyes covered like some edgy anime characyer
the difference is everyone wears the same thing in rouge linage
@@raymond-jf3kethat’s literally prime rouge linage
@@Jason_Huaraches glad I never played rogue then, it was prob cool though
I remember having a 3 hour long discussion about this with my friends a few years ago
Your rose tinted glasses are clearly a artifact because damn the rouge lineage logging simulator glazing is crazy
it’s not even a video about the gameplay but rogue solos fs 😭
Logging is a you problem, it’s not like you gotta log you can fight back😭
Well, there's also the issue that insanity can't outright kill in Deepwoken, and the fact that there are sanity restoring talents and abilities. Saltchemist could straight up outregen the insanity.
Deepwoken characters also deal a fuck ton of damage. Like on the higher end it takes maybe three m1s to kill a rogue lineage character. As for running, there's bs like gravity field and corrupted gravity field, the auto tracking mantras would straight up obliterate their HP in thirds.
Then there's Deepwoken's own version of mage builds which will actually just put rogue lineage characters in infinite ragdoll/stun and deplete their HP instantly.
Insanity can kill in Deepwoken though?
@@EdmondDantes_o7Nope. It can Instagrip someone if they're knocked, but not kill through insanity alone.
@@Hivatel I love spreading misinformation
@@Hivatel The mushrooms in the voidzones would disagree
@@EdmondDantes_o7 the mushrooms in the voidzones are built different
I really wish deepwoken was more focused on the world building and lore than the pvp. The game feels more like a anime battlegrounds game now than an actual experience.
ashiin freshies wearing knight lords and speaking arabic were the most fearsome beings in rogue
3 minutes ago is crazy, ty UNCounter
if u wanna skip the yapping just start from 0:00 and leave the video at 16:44
Thanks, appreciate the honesty!
Thought i was gonna hear a monolog about the ashin gangbang train that every ultra has suffered from. Ashins for life
5 ashiin freshies vs 1 power 20
The video we never knew we wanted, but we needed
Rogue is just pure tranquillity until its not
If you stretch a lot and assume some stuff both deepwoken and rogue characters scale decently high because they can dodge lightning, block primadon's attacks with a sword, shoulder throw lava snakes and gorpigs
Me when some guy with a bell starts ringing it and my head spontaneously combusts.
me when akira is nobody because rogue characters with max ultra would be stronger than akira
Vind alone probably eradicates most builds. Mainly if its a sc shinobi thue to mobility, Regen and Tempest soul being “The Truth”. Not to mention Gaian Shinobi.. grapple, heal, Repeat. and if they have blade master. Then there’s Necro… (Armis)
I used to be addicted to rogue man I used to say I’m done and I’m quitting but I’d come back again a week later
1:45 wouldn't this be big hoss shadow or somethin
I watched this in the middle of school, and now I comment cause I got caught in the bathroom halfway into the vid
wraith knights after they realise their opponent is a silentheart railblade:
Reaconteur, please let us out the basement, half of us are starving alr
no
meat lord likely solos all of deepwoken and rogue lineage except for big hoss. he can canonically low diff any drowned god (all of which destroy the world upon awakening) so rogue gods probably arent too hard. agamatsu has said that meat lord vs big hoss is a stalemate and dorgan doesnt compare
dorgan is canonically stronger or equal to big hoss being his trainer, also rogue lineage tenebrae dark gods are canonically way stronger than drowned gods creating universes with their leaking power
lmfaoo 💀meat lord is just a cheap dorgan knock off
original >>> copy
Nah Dorgan and Meatlord would team up and become the multiversal gods
the deepwoken player when I summon a thresher and 50 mudskippers, then snap contrarium them, then snap nocere them, then snap manus dei them :C
Something i swear literally nobody has noticed or mentioned is the fact that yalda (i forgot how to spell it) the god that sends you to khei is just sitting in the room for starkindred as a background asset
Been playing rogue since 2020 it’s literally the game that refuses to die
construct drider vs deepwoken power 20 💔
we do NOT have little information on the gods of Rogue. theres Solan, Ardour, the one B who made the Gaians, the god that created Gaia as a literal sub dimension, and plenty more
gate : "erisia 3"
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this is such a Deepwoken Vs Rogue Lineage... moment
hopped back on rogue for a bit, this is cancer but i love it.
someone gotta rescirpt the base combat (NOT TO FUCKING DEEPWOKEN) and we'll be so back
@ yeah no
@@flappyflap2693 base combat is fine (better than deepwoken actually), progression is the issue
@@ElBoboduro im a rogue addict too but im gonna be real the progression isn't the issue cause u can literally get ultra requirements after like 12 assasinations or some jails plus a few quests khei prog another story though (but basically nobody plays khei so eh) i don't really mean anything crazy or anything i just think there should be a more effective defense mechanic other than just a regular block cause the amount of shit that can 1 combo u is crazy
@@flappyflap2693 no, progression is HELL. You have to search YEARS for a good server, there's always some undercover guild observing your every move waiting for you to reach day 1 for their 200th necromancer, literally nobody you can hunt solo, or servers with a few too many gaia dwellers. I'm at the point where I have to boost myself because regular progression is impossible.
Khei is just a different type of hell I didn't wanna mention it.
I kind of like the simplicity of defense, however you're right its quite weak, but the main issue are the combos not the defense - they should get counterplay through nerfs. Except from macros, pvp in gaia is pretty fun.
reacounter reminds from Eclipse the yba ytber
he hasnt done yba in years
Spider cloak on tanky classes, but also THE PRINCE, THE PRINCE
man forgot deepknight :(
I feel like deep knight would have a huge chance fighting deepwoken characters considering how broken it is (to be fair, the spear classes following abomination are just outright broken. base can kill super, super can kill ultra, ultra can kill uber, uber kills all)
but i dunno, maybe it's just me
ah. nevermind then.
i watched the whole thing and got clowned on by a recording.
@@slowsloth3809😭
Roguelineage characters after getting hit by one mawblade crit
4:24 if you had to include phoenix feather you should also include prime permafrost prison that one shot everything in a 50 stud with barely any cd
i mean yeah but rogue lineage would’ve just chef subclassed into tanked this with PF
ngl u put ethiron in the crypt and bro is not leaving
bros gonna get shriekers comboed 😭
Ethiron is gonna end up with 5 injuries and 1 arm if he somehow survives
just put the fries in the bag lil bro
corner ignis is back pal we gotta take you back to rogue school
I just noticed you kinda sound like the ferryman if he mellowed out
i’m him
Imagine trying to fight an Uber Illusionist in Deepwoken I'd kms on the spot.
It also would be impossible to grip the mage since they have snap hoppa
what abt when players had like 1k hp and giant wardens blade
same matchups tbh it’s just gonna take longer
also curse stacks
ngl the devs should add job esc stuff and call them keys (like in music)
big hoss having its way with the entire verse tbh
My glorious king
quite the yap session from the old man
Yo wsp man im early today
hello
you also forgot to account for exploiters, they are canon on rogue lore, being people who use illegitimate spells
lmao
honestly the gorpig imo is stronger than like any npc besides squibbo and bosses (point would still go to deepwoken) and idk why we didnt talk abt oni boss which could take down at least 2 humanoid bosses from deep not to say rogue would win but it was definetly underhyped
u can permanently hold F against a gorpig and they cant kill you, the only move that guard breaks is their jump slam, which can be perfect blocked, and hardly does much damage. The oni boss (assuming its big hosses shadow) has the hp of a howler which is 2 1/2 rising dragons to kill. im a rogue glazer but a gorpig is not strong
Please sing Just Lean (Johnny’s theme) :)
ok
@ ty deepwoken schlatt
i disagree! I strongly believe the gods in rogue lineage are much more powerful! I dare you to dispute my take!
yeah they are
i wont lie comparing deepwoken and rogue lineage in terms of quality and gameplay, is like comparing a 5 star meal to shit.
But i guess this isnt that
so deepwoken is 5 star?
4/10 ragebait
rogue lineage is a 5 star meal compared to deepwoken.
@@TotallyNotYami you are so blinded by nostalgia
shit compared to dog shit
The Mid game of today vs The Mid game in history 🎉🎉🎉
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deepwoken vs rogue lineage rap battle when?
bro u forgot to mention big hoss in pve
The average ronin cooks the average deepwoken mage player with ease, but otherwise yeah i fully agree, you cooked with this
its been 6 years little pup
one hollowtide greatsword gaurd break and they cooked
another amazing music vid travis scott
If we're saying primes then mages get corner ignis
i purposely removed corner ignis and phoenix feather the matchups already unfair
Illu gets solo'd by any deep build that makes use of insanity talents, godspells or not
globus still slams, also insanity talents don’t prevent insanity just stall it
@Reaconteur true, but inanity only kills under 3 conditions, your health hits zero from insanity (If you build right, that's almost impossible), nlk in the depths, or the brains in the rotlands
And besides, the builds that make use of insanity usually have insane amounts of sanity
DeepWoken has meatlord. From what I can see, I'm pretty sure Rogue Lineage don't got that. DeepWoken > Rouge Lineage
bro doesn’t even know about big hoss 😢
@Reaconteur Big hoss? Hol up, lemme see this
he solos the verse
Unclear reactor could the Corrupt mage be stopped by a Tranquil circle?
maybe
no not at all, what the corrupt mage uses isn’t an equivalent to the song, mana is a supernatural force that buffs the users physical capabilities (which is why we can mana run, climb, dash and such) and allows for unnatural displays of power (using spells and godspells), meanwhile the song is imbued within the user and is a collective reservoir of power and “magic” connected to everyone, even Primadon contains part of the song within him, and so do Sharkos, which is why they can both utilize the Ardour scream. Tranquil circle shuts down usage of the song for the user and anyone else affected, but only through the conductor of the usage of tranquil circle, meaning tranquil circle itself won’t shut down, similarly to how a heroblade doesn’t affect the user (flame hero blade doesn’t burn you, frost doesn’t freeze or spawn crystals on you, gale doesn’t suffocate or cut you, thunder doesn’t shock you, and neither does shadow constantly steal your ether like enma). Hope this helps
1. deepwoken wins the pve (even tho its useless and boring) just better mob designs
2. rogue just has better god designs with big hoss or the prince
3. rogue wins character power easily
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Mana shield.
I think deepwoken is a better Game But rouge was like worse for My mental health and objectively worse too
No reason to add the ‘but’ in that sentence then !
@grand3640 i mean rouge was way more addictive
Probably more addictive cuz you were younger
deepwoken players laugh til they get hit by a godly icy spear from above
real
comp faceless build can easily solo 10 maxed deepwoken players 😎 (this is likely not true)
isnt it unfair that u compare classes that strongly rely on tomeless to a full deepowken build mantras? like if we gonna look full potential rogue lineage, deepwoken couldnt stand a chance. like how they gonna break manashield? how they gonna avoid full stun double slayer combo? what they gonna do about grapple repair shinobis? what about edicts wich makes rogue lineage characters much stronger. rogue lineage solos deepwoken verse
Shadow has azure flames
is that Black Star at 12:40
idk
yup
Touhou project, Patchouli knowledge
what
@@Reaconteur Does he know?
I think rogue has a upper hand in combat against deep characters, NOT A SINGLE Trackstar would catch up to any rogue class with spider cloak and snap geli, or imagine monster hunter, what are deepwoken characters supposed to do against a guy that is Litteraly flying spawning in a whole army,
And also I think it’s incorrect to use the hp numbers from both games, like 500 hp deepwoken char vs ≈200hp rogue class, both chars at their prime should have same hp basically ≈150 hp from rogue converts into 500hp in deep
He forgot that speed goes to deepwoken characters they are extremely faster so they would just speed blitz
They consistently dodge and react to faster things so realisticly they're not getting touched at least in terms of sword combat
??? no they wouldn’t, they dodge things due to s they don’t actually move fast
@@Reaconteur wouldn't dodge frames just be a game mechanic and not an actual thing also if it was they still have to react or at least have some level of prediction other wise they would dodge to late, given the average players skill and take that into the lore they should be moving at relativistic+ speeds, not counting the dodge frames which would just be the ability to phase through objects while having the thought process of dodging which would only upscale them.
tundra dragon slays all
i saw meatlords face
Hi unc
Layer 3, the not eternal heat
ain't u do this before dawg
no this is powerscaling not comparing the games
@@Reaconteur shit
More videos……
Finally, Trash vs. Garbage 🔥🔥🔥
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did you just reupload this video
did you even WATCH IT ITS NOT THE SAME
#wewantchefoath chef oath would get some bonus points to deep..
Dawg, why are we doing videos like this in the big 24
fun
Do hollowed vs rogue
deep glaze vs rouge old heads
Unc get some drip on ur rapier..
i don’t wanna farm accessories
What about Marcus?
Reaconteur vs Reahawktuah
real
Why didn’t rogue lineage succeed but Deepwoken did 🤔
The game rogue lineage in question:
I am not having the shit I commented earlier be on my digital footprint
lmao
Doesn't matter uncle ben, ADOPT ME solos both of them.
Honestly deepwoken players in lore are weak asf, we cant even touch regent we get insta gripped