The 4 Ways Brexit Broke the Tory Party
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The Conservative Party faces a tough spot, with internal chaos and leadership turnover. Yet, the real trouble began with Brexit in 2016. In this video, we'll delve into how Brexit shattered the Tories and what it means for their future.
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Remainers' bittersweet revenge is watching these wazzocks destroy eachother. Doesn't make up for the damage, but it is funny to watch.
I kind of agree, but quite honestly I just wish we had never left.
@@OhDearOhDear69 me too mate. Me too.
Might as well get something out of the clusterfuck.
Wazzocks 😂😂 Not heard that in ages.
Said from the word go that Wrexshit is the cost we're going to pay to finally destroy the insidious myth of British/English exceptionalism.
On the bright side, the UK is setting an excellent example to other EU members exactly why you shouldn’t leave
O yea have you looked at the state of the EU recently we got out just in time.
@@TOP.FOX. And yet, nowhere in the entire EU, there is a seemingly move to ask for a referendum for leaving. Let us just ask ouselves why...
@@TOP.FOX.How’s that cope tasting?
@@TOP.FOX.I must have missed what's so terrible now in the EU. Business as usual, we live our lives. A bit less tedious, now that we 🇪🇺 don't need to bother ourselves any longer with the little englanders ...
only example that they gave is that if you leave you have to actually leave
also use your navy to defend against the invading army
They are in power for 14 years, can’t blame anyone now
juu veli banaani
But labour have been using their parliamentary minority to somehow prevent the Tory majority winning parliamentary votes.
"somehow" lol
Or the tory members just don't agree with each other and are now leaning on labour decisions but idk
You think that's going to stop 'em trying? 😂
The assumption that if another party was in power we would be anywhere different.
For example we now know that lockdown during the pandemic was a bad idea the opposition government was complaining that we should have locked down harder, faster and for longer.
So in this case we would be worse off, how that pans out is up to speculation.
Brexiteer Tories promised a fantasy they could never properly deliver.
Brexit meant different things to different people and that why it was so attractive to people. But that’s also why it was doomed from the start.
Nonsense they could deliver it they chose not to.
@@SaintGerbilUK no they can’t as much as you want to delude yourself the Uk and Europe are stronger together
@@SaintGerbilUK what would have delivering it meant? Lots of people thought delivering it meant much lower immigration, some people thought it meant a more Asian facing economy (facing towards China and India) or more US facing economy while others thought it meant staying in something a bit like the common market but with slightly fewer rules. Some Labour Brexiterrs thought it bmeant more rights for working class Brits and.higher wages as less migrant competition while some Tory Brexiteers wanted Britain to become a low tax, lower workers rights, low regulation haven for business. Which version would you have taken to mean delivering Brexit properly?
@@gareth2736 ok let's take lowering immigration, since that was a high ranking reason given.
Why do we have to accept people who are economic migrants and put them in council housing only to be a drain on the economy?
In the EU there's freedom of movement, outside the EU we have the choice and the choice was taken to increase immigration against their own party manifesto.
@@SaintGerbilUK because the care sector and the NHS would collapse without migrant workers. In addition because being outside the EU we are now more desperate for trade deals something that at least some other countries who want trade deals with the UK are looking for is greater ease at getting Visas to the UK e.g. Indian students.
Brexit didn't break the Conservative Party. The Conservative Party broke itself.
by having parties during lockdown and having a party before prince philips funeral
Brexit didn’t break it actually but The Party itself did for them So hard that they can’t make up now or a have a new face with new policies that suit the people and unite the country
@@MeetShah_ Lockdown parties in downing street, don't forget that
@@gavinmartin5151 never forgetting
@@MeetShah_ Good because the tories were laughing at us by having lockdown parties during covid breaking their own rules
Cameron's plan was to take votes from UKIP - not put the issue of europe to bed. Then he walked.
His plan was also to to brown-nose his Tory 'colleagues' by getting even more opt-outs for the UK from his EU27 fellows and from Brussels.
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And then we in the EU27 🇪🇺 told him to do one. Clearly something he didn't expect. But then, he's not the sharpest tool ....
@@EllieD.Violethe might not be sharp, but he's definitely a tool.
@@EllieD.Violet We're better off without so many hangers on, people like to complain about us but they sure loved the Pound Sterling and our misplaced generosity.
@@theantagonist2147 What misplaced generosity? You got more rebates than anyone else.
Else for the £ ..... nobody loved or loves it here 🇪🇺. We have the € - second global reserve currency.
@@verystripeyzebra For once I agree with you.
2016 onwards has just been an absolute shitshow, weaponised incompetence and gaslighting. All the talk about being back at square one, I would love to be back at square one as we're currently at square -15
Been a shit show much longer.
As an American, I can commiserate.
Square -15 sounds fairly optimistic after May, Johnson, Truss and Sunak.
It truly does seem now that when Blair and Brown were in charge the sun shone every day,the streets were paved with gold and you didn't have to wait 12 hours for an ambulance,doctors appointments actually existed and NHS dentists weren't less common than unicorns.
@@grahamsmith2022 the wait list was 2.3 million in 2009, by 2017 it had doubled.
Imagine the Tory party saying "it was a grave mistake and we apologise"😂😂😂😂😂
That'd do as a suicide note.
I'd still tell them to sod off.
An apology does not actually fix the problem.
Nah, they don't need to. In a couple of election cycles, Tories will get mass-amnesia and totally disown Brex$hit: it was little green wokey men in Brussels that kicked the UK out, Tories had nothing to do with it.
The sad thing is that theres still lots of people out there that still belive that brexit "couldve worked" its the ultimate example of refusing to believe you were wrong.
In a way, it's all our fault. We just didn't send enough positive vibrations through the cosmos, and got everyone on a doom trip, maaaan.
Breaks-It Means Breaks-It
The fact that I have to spend over 3 pounds to buy 10 bloody eggs in most supermarkets
That's a result of the NetZero policies which Labour have criticized the Tories for backing off from.
So they may have been higher under a Labour government.
Are regular eggs any cheaper? (JK)
Thats cool and all but who raised those prices initially? The tories. @@SaintGerbilUK
@@phalanx9005 well it's inflation, created by Tory policy sure but Labour have the exact same policy and claim they would have pushed it further.
The Tories have no direct control over egg prices unless you can find one who is also an egg farmer.
@@SaintGerbilUKBS! Once UK broke from EU, eggs, meat, poultry, & produce became more expensive due to tariffs. What did people think would happen?
Apparently at 56 I'm no longer a younger voter :) but not only did we vote to remain, we moved, to Europe, and have not regretted it one second.
Welcome, stay safe and prosper, brother
Or whatever gender you might subscribe to, I don't mean to offend
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"We moved to Europe " : wasn't the UK already in Europe ?
@@francoisleyrat8659 shows exactly why Brexit happened in the first place….moving to Europe…sure…speaking the language yet is the real question I want to have answered
The tories have broken Britain not just brexit!
They are not victims of the chaos, they are the architects of it. Most of it, anyway.
I know this is out of place but I had an irish friend who once called England "Eastern Ireland"
Looool
That's just NW England, I think.
I wish lol
@@anonUK I'm from the NW and certainly a lot of Irish in my blood!
@Stan_55UK
Liverpool, the "Capital of Ireland" (or alternatively, the place where the Irish landed and had their tickets on to New York robbed off them).
One of the stupidest things Rishi Sunak's government did is remind everyone that the Tories have been in power for the last 14 years. During the Johnson era, the rhetoric pushed by the party was we have only been in power since 2019, how are we meant to fix things (completely de-aligning themselves with the last 2 Tory governments under Cameron, and the half term under May.) The first thing Rishi's people did after their Local Election decimation was to remind everyone how this was anti-incumbent emotion because "we have been in government for 13 years.". Not supporting the Tories, but this so funny for me to see.
It was one of my better predictions; that Brexit would eat 3-4 governments alive. It was both incoherent and just too much for a government to swallow.
Unfortunately, although there have been additional pitfalls I didn't foresee, I've not had to amend a single observation made ahead of Lemming Thursday either.
It's because despite win after win at the elections remainers have held up, undermined and devalued any positive changes we could have had.
@@SaintGerbilUK you are delusional and you know it.
@@SaintGerbilUK or; more likely, there are, despite the adverts, no advantages. Fact is, remainer sentiment has just grown stronger and spread as the evidence keeps rolling in
Fact is, Brexit was just a step on the road to deregulation; a bonfire of rights and protections. It won't work and the public don't want it.
If Brexit required everyone to get behind it to succeed, the referendum should have required 70% to move forward. As it is, not enough of the public was behind it and even fewer are now. That an total incompetence in Westminster
@@SaintGerbilUKhow the fuck did they manage that when they weren’t in power ye prize tit.
Brexit only passed by the thinnest majority, not by a landslide. So it was unwise for Brexiteers to treat it as an overwhelming mandate. Also, they pitched Brexit as a solution to the U.K.'s economic problems, which it wasn't. Those problems still needed to be addressed, even without the E.U. Sovereignty merely means that your problems become entirely your own to fix.
If you look into it further still, Leave only had the votes of around 37% of the electorate.
Remain had around 35% and 28% were so complacent that they stayed home and didn't vote.
Considering the fact that it's people who want a change who tend to feel more motivated to vote, you can be sure that there'd have been a different result if even just a portion of those who stayed home had got off their arses and voted.
Brexit wasn't the result of the British people exercising their will.
It was the result of sensible, but complacent, people not bothering to stop idiots from making an idiotic decision on all our behalves.
halfway across the river, the frog felt a sting in his back
"but now we shall both drown!" cried the frog, a dreadful numbness spreading through him
"lol", whispered the scorpion, as the waters closed above them. "lol, lmao"
And "you lost get over it." 😂
Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving.
Perhaps the "grift"
@@greatredchicken The grift that keeps on taking.
The endless quest of conservatism is to slow down progress so ppl that already have the money and power can keep it for as long as possible.
It will break Labour as well and the entire UK, if not reversed. The economic situation in the UK hasn't been so dire in modern history. People should really take a look at the list of countries that fail to bounce back from an initial break. See what happens to them.
@@quenky1want to fix Britain?
Shut down the tabloids. Put editors who publish lie after lie after lie, just making shit up to scare people, in jail.
Do that and I'm a few years you will find the xenophobia and racism and anti-environmental and anti-science position has massively reduced. Why we allow flat propaganda to terrify our population I have no clue.
Ropes economy sucks worse
@@vermilion3419 except it doesn't. plus their citizens have more money, better standards of living, and public services that work.
But yeah Germany's in recession, those poor Germans with their own average 5k better wages, lower retirement age, higher pensions, sick pay, unemployment benefits, their functioning health service, rivers that arent full of raw sewage, omg how do they cope..I really just don't know.
It already broke Labour given the collapse of the "Red Wall" in 2019.
How can it be reversed? The UK would need to apply for re-admission, which would almost certainly be refused.
Tories were unpopular in in Scotland berfore. They put the poll tax in Scotland first, and shut down old economies coal steel shipbuilding etc. SNP only became super pro EU to use for independence, weren't before.
Y'know while the reasoning back then was different, the coal mines were always going to be shut down eventually due to climate. And soon, so will the oil drilling.
That's true but they accelerated the demise by saying it all had to generate profit, and the events of the miners strike did as well. Coal makes a lot of greenhouse gasses way more than gas but look whats happened the Russians tried to make Europe freeze because of the Ukraine thing. So tories would have hard work in Scotland anyway and its not because of brexit, maybe exacerbated by brexit. @@Proteus_Ridley
@@andrewdewar8159so who do you think should have paid for the coal mines, the steel production, and the shipbuilding if they were kept running at a loss?
@@peterfireflylundwe all pay for the loss of energy security, and it is said that we are still buying russian oil, but through other countries. And we are payuing a lot already for nationalised ship building and aluminium smelteres.
Oil is used for transportation, not for electricity or steelmaking. Coal is not a substitute for it.
Brexiteers have become Bremoaners, all they do is moan about how Brexit isn't being done properly, how other countries won't play nice with the UK and give us free trade deals and lollies.
Brexit has achieved what I wanted - we are out of the EU. But the way it was delivered was atrocious.
@@dogglebird4430 I hear moaning
@@Pirake123 Nope. Still delighted to be out of the EU.
@@dogglebird4430
You are a rare species of Briton then and a species that is becoming more and more rare.
Someday they may be putting you folks in museums just so there is a historical record of the species.
@@geofflepper3207 I might be rare in the circles in which you mix, so maybe you should get out of your group-think bubble a bit more.
We need a Fair (PR) Voting system so we get the MPs and Government we voted for.
Look at Italy if you want to see whete PR leads.
@charleswillcock3235 Confirmation bias. That's like saying, "Don't have seatbelts because there are car crashes." Plus Italy uses a hybrid system, not a PR voting system.
BREXSHIT was a mistake. Cameron promised the referendum purely for party political reasons without realizing that disgruntled people would use it as a protest vote, because his privileged lifestyle ensured he was out of touch the general public. He then mismanaged it, which was another mistake, with both campaigns misleading an uninformed public. (Remain predicted doomsday scenarios while Leave lied about the benefits).
There are some people, mostly the older generation, who still support leaving the EU, despite them having benefited the most while the UK was a member. They didn't realize this, still don't and probably never will, but they won't live forever. Meanwhile younger generations are coming to realize the mess their parents and grandparents have left them in....
At last some Brexit Benefits
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Lucky enough they had bank accounts from Moscow to bankroll the campaign…
Moscow is in cahoots with Germany. A food for thought
To think Cameron had the referendum to unite the party !
I wonder if the UK will go through something like Yuguslavia, where the failure of the economy caused pre-existing, historical conflicts to flare up and ultimately destroyed the union.
Someone should form a "Celtic union rejoin EU party", split up the union, have Scotland, Wales and northern Ireland for a federation of their countries (staying as part of the Commonwealth of Nations with the same ceremonial Monarchy), sign a trade and security deal with the Republic of Ireland, keeping all aspects of the 'good Friday agreement' - then the Federated Celtic Union of Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland would then rejoin the EU without England. Maybe the independent city state of Greater London could rejoin the EU later too.
The UK economy is nowhere near failing as much as Yugoslavia's. The UK economy (per head) is on about the same level as France, and a bit ahead of Spain & Italy, a bit behind Germany, and the same level as Japan. The same as things have been for over half a century.
@@gawkthimm6030ONLY if Brighton and Hove becomes an exclave of Greater London (London-on-Sea has been a common moniker since around 1850 in any event!).
More seriously, the spectre of Yugoslavia is a precedent I sincerely hope we don't emulate, though some of the worst boneheads seem hell-bent on seeking such an outcome.
It's not about the economy in and of itself. Northern Ireland will eventually rejoin Ireland proper, because of Brexit. Same thing with Scotland. Inside the UK and EU, these countries had the perfect arrangement, now they're just stuck in a shitty union with England. The only place that will stay is Wales because they're occupied by old English duo home owners. Good times ;(
@@gawkthimm6030 Did you forget Wales voted for Brexit 🤦🏻
Imagine how much of this could’ve been avoided if the UK voted for Alternative Vote in 2011
Ah, but that didn't work for the big 2. So it was scare mongered out
AV is rubbish, get full PR
@@phil2544Don't let perfect be the enemy of good or atleast better
@phil2544 sometimes a move in the right direction is better than nothing!
At least a move enables further moves in the future, doing nothing means we will always be stuck in the past.
Given how prepared they were for the aftermath I'm unconvinced the pro-Brexit campaign had any idea it was going to win, there was certainly no coherent plan to carry it out. Now we have the charisma vacuum that is Sunak leading a party so racist it voted for Truss instead leaning into the views of the most extreme MPs who will never think he has gone far enough.
I think a lot of people over that timespan had a sudden, crushing revelation that the British Empire did not actually exist any more.
These are the consequences of giving ignorant people too much power.
love your work but wanted to say using language such as ‘trans “debate”’ when referring to issues concerning trans people suggests that there is definitively not a good position on these issues.
TLDR should consider using language such as ‘issues concerning trans people’, ‘the accommodation or non-accommodation of trans people’, ‘the acceptance or non-acceptance of trans people’, or ‘hostilities towards trans people’ that does not assert whether or not a good or correct position exists.
sincerely,
a trans person.
or if you would like to use the same language as a specific group, mention that you are doing so
Between austerity and Brexit, could it be that David Cameron has been the worst piece of bad news for Britain since the Flood?
I would also say the culture war stuff is also from imitating America and Boris' prolictivity to it such as the "letter box" women comment
It does sound a lot like what the Republicans are doing over here. And the Republicans are still surprised that they've been losing a lot of special elections and referendums since then.
You can see a lot of diet Trumpism infecting the Tories lately. The unironic use of "woke", banging the culture war drum about transgender people, dog whistles to the far right to use violence ("Sure would be terrible if SOMEONE turned this ceasefire-in-Gaza march violent, hint hint.") and easily chantable but hollow slogans (wokerati, anti-growth coalition, Stop The Boats, etc).
I think "the trans debate" will go down in history like "the Jewish question." Though hopefully not with such a horrific culmination, of course.
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'The last few years of chaos is responsible for the decline of the Tory party' he says. More like the Tories are responsible for the last few years of chaos.
In most countries if you want to carry out a big constitutional change, you need a 60% (or larger) majority to do it. Brexit should've been categorised as a constitutional (or Fundamental) change - therefore requiring a 60% majority of the votes. OR if this 60% is unpalatable (and one wants to stick to the "most democratic" 50%+1 rule on this large-scale question): then Westminster should have accepted the individual regional Remain votes (SCO: 62%, NIR: 55,8%) and not drag these two regions/ countries out of the EU against their own DEMOCRATIC will. The "UK leaves as a whole" was a narrowminded viewpoint.
A robust democratic process would have been nice too.
Rather grubby political opportunism is what we got.
It also potentially should have been considered legally binding rather than an opinion, so the courts could actually have taken a look at all the dodgey dealings that went on. Instead it was "the will of the people" (on that certain day in 2016).
As far as I know, reinforced qualified majorities are required on parliamentary votes on constitutional matters only, and the 2015 EU referendum act was passed almost unanimously by the Commons. If Labour could've stopped it perhaps it would have voted differently. I'll never forgive Corbyn for that, though.
At that point why can't individual houses say whether they want to stay. Too many people who think of themselves as the next coming of Einstein.
@@jackster2568 granularity has to end somewhere. As a union of equals, each constituent part should have had an individual voice in the joint decision of the whole.
Maybe that's what you meant by houses, parliaments, or did you mean households.
I am still amazed that there are people who see Cameron as a good leader (at least Rishi himself, since he invited him back into the gov 🤷). This will be one into the history books, how a short-term goal of strengthening one's political party, has in the long-term broken said party and thrown a major hurdle in the development path of the whole country
He's a gentleman. He saw the shitshow coming and bailed out. Said he couldnt manage that transition. He was staunchly pro EU
@@TheMrgoodmanners Before the Brexit vote he said that he wouldn't resign if Brexit won and see through the transition (clearly expecting that Remain would win). The he resigned anyway. While his resignation was understandable he really should've said from the beginning that he would resign if Brexit won.
@@seneca983 Or at least he should've held a referendum where he was prepared to accept the results. Even other EU-exit movements can agree that our referendum choices was a terrible way to do it. At least have an honest and realistic plan of what you can achieve outside the EU.
@@LowestofheDead I don't think you could easily have such a plan because you can't know how the exit negotiations are going to go before the referendum.
Cameron was bending over for Gupta, perhaps that has something to do with his return.
The problem is that the Tories were more comfortable criticizing the EU than actually building a new system, and it just might destroy the Conservative Party as a consequence.
To be honest, I don't think the Tories actually believed that the public would be so sold on Brexit, I feel like it was more a tactic to get more votes.
yeah, its the Conservative party, idk what theyre conserving but they're not building new
@@AnonyMous-xv4ig Exactly. They didn't think they'd get this far, they were more comfortable critiquing the EU than building something new, and so they are crashing and burning.
Even if they had a plan, what would ~0,86% of the world population bring to the table in terms of economic trade agreements?
Another great video, thanks!
Quick Q: Is the "rapidly flickering/moving grid pattern" on the big light-blue overlay (e.g. 0:52) deliberate?}
As I personally find it very distracting whenever it's used (I suspect some may even find it triggering) 😵💫
Whereas the rest of your graphics/animations are clean and easy on the eyes.
Thanks again and keep up the great work!
Glad to see that people are fed up with “conservatives” around the world.
Biggest dmg done to the Tories is probably losing the EU as something to blame for everything.
The crux of the issue is that the British Empire died a long time ago, bled to death by World Wars and changing social norms. The conditions of Britain's prior success cannot be replicated. Age of Sail Colonialism and the industrial revolution came and went. Geography is the true deciding factor for world power. The US and China are vast nations with equally vast geological advantages. The UK is a small island nation that lacks the resources to compete on its own. The EU was the only place it had power.
It was the Tories lack of any real leadership that broke Brexit. They promised us everything we wanted and then promptly started forcing things upon us that we didn't want and totally ignored almost all their Brexit promises.
Oh no! The consequences of my actions! How could this have happened!?
Naaa, George and Dave did the damage with their first budget. Think Brexit was just the icing on the cake.
The fact that so many people were dubbed into believing in Brexit was a good thing is mind blowing. Critical thinking is extremely lacking.
The incompetence of the Tories broke them selves ! Couldn't deliver a letter, let alone Brexit !
I know that it's not exactly the most pressing issue in the current British political climate, but being used as a political point-scoring football is exhausting, especially when points are scored for 'who can strip the most number of rights away from a tiny minority of the public'. It's so bad that it might as well be 'less rights for me, more votes for them'...
How the hell Tories had a reputation for economic credibility in the first place is beyond me. Austerity was vile and caused immense damage to the economic prospects of the country. They've also had far more quarters of recession and fewer quarters of growth than Labour. But I guess if you're rich and you're part of the small group that gets richer under Tories I guess they are "good" for the economy for you.
You don’t remember how bad Labour was in the 70’s and 80’s.
Who could have guessed taking away career options from your own citizens, kicking out critical skilled and unskilled labor, and ruining your competitive advantage would have backfired? Oh right, everyone with any knowledge of the subject. But who needs experts, logic, or past examples when there the Tories drive a bus around with lies about funding NHS with EU savings?
2:39 For Northern Ireland, whether they like the Tories is almost meaningless. Northern Ireland has it's own political parties to England, Wales and Scotland. No labour candidates and spots of minority Tory candidates. Almost Everyone votes for NI specific parties.
And that’s precisely why the tories don’t give 2 about Northern Ireland. There are no votes to be won there. It’s also a particularly difficult case of culture and identity that no one wants to deal with
The ERG is not a rock n roll band and has never done any research besides how to fill their own pockets.
📝 Summary of Key Points:
📌 Brexit significantly damaged the Tory party by making them unpopular among certain demographics, especially younger voters and voters in Scotland and Northern Ireland.
🧐 The quality of Tory MPs worsened due to factionalism and the expulsion of experienced members like Philip Hammond and Rory Stewart, leading to deep party fragmentation.
🚀 The Tories engaged in culture wars post-Brexit, focusing on social and cultural issues rather than the economy, which affected their appeal to voters primarily concerned with economic issues.
💡 Additional Insights and Observations:
💬 Quotable Moments: "Brexit wasn't simply a vote to leave an economic block; it was a rejection of the status quo and a vote against the liberal establishment."
📊 Data and Statistics: Polling from 2023 shows that two-thirds of voters believe that Brexit has damaged the economy, impacting the Tory party's economic credibility.
📣 Concluding Remarks:
Brexit's aftermath has had profound effects on the Tory party, damaging their popularity among key demographics, worsening the quality of MPs, leading to factionalism, and shifting focus towards culture wars. The loss of economic credibility further complicates their position. The long-term implications of Brexit on the Tory party's future remain uncertain.
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Having incompetent idiots with no plan in charge was unhelpful.
Brexit would be a monumentally difficult task, identifying regulatory changes, spotting trade deals, tweaking rules to best benefit UK.
These would never replace what we lost but would have been a mitigation.
Having immature politicians, arrogantly believing that the real world would respond to their policies in the way it did in their Oxford union debating society summing up speech was always ridiculous.
@@verystripeyzebra you would need a god king benevolent autocrat to have mitigated much of the damage of leaving EU.
@@augustuslunasol10thapostle indeed. But someone with a knowledge of trade business rules regulation could have leveraged small advantages.
What we got was clueless morons bleating about some past glory thinking that the world wouldn't notice that the preceding 60 years had happened.
Personally I think the brexlets truly believed they'd get a deal with the EU that put us in the same position as before but without FOM or contributions.
Once they realised this wasn't going to happen, they panicked. And that is where they have been ever since. Panicking because they know they've messed up. With no plan B, they've got nothing. Which is a pretty poor show, seeing as plan A was so laughable.
I don't care about the Tory party.
It's just a shame that they had to take Britain down with them.
These is not much I wouldn’t do to help destroy the people who lied Brexit into existence.
Dare I say the Spoiler effect destroyed the Tories. If they weren't trying to get UKIP voters in 2015 none of this woulda happened. And now they are still complaining about it with Reform UK.
The Tories drinking from the poisoned chalice they created may be poetic justice, but we have suffered as a county. Time for comeuppance.
Four years after Brexit, the British are still waiting for the benefits
Nearly 10 years after the referendum we're still waiting for you to accept the result.
The benefits for the normal working man are, more jobs available and better pay. I personally am better off financially than I've been in my 43 years of life.
@@SaintGerbilUK
I'm talking about the benefits, not about a referendum
@@pvught390 how can you gain the benefits of Brexit when you've spent the entire time undermining, and slowing down the process?
It's like complaining that HS2 has been going on too long when you've been standing in the way of the builders for 5 years.
@@SaintGerbilUK I will always campaign for re-joining. There were plenty who were outspoken against EU/EEC membership when we were members; what is the difference? Wilson gave us a referendum in (IIRC) 1973 asking if we wished to remain or leave. We voted remain. Why did you not accept that democratic decision?
When a new political party is elected, do you expect the members of the opposition to say "Well you won, we will not call you out in any way?"
On your bike sir/madam; I will always use my democratic right to speak out for re-joining the EU in its current form, despite its many faults, or for that matter, any other issue that I wish.
So true, any party that put rejoin on their agenda would i think do well.
Have you thought about adding sources to some of the graphics? At least the polls would be interesting!
The main problem is the entitlement and lack of self reflection of British people. They still believe they are the empire and the world revolves around them. You can observe it best when they are being told at EU airports to queue up with the other third world countries. Or when they realize they need to apply for visa for long term stays now.
AT LEAST THE TORY TOFFS DON'T HAVE TO DECLARE THEIR TAX-SHY OFF SHORE ACCOUNTS. Don't t want the commoners rummaging in their financial affairs. That's their brexit benefit
As I watched from across the pond as the Brexit movement gained steam, I remember thinking “what the hell are the Brits doing?? This is going to be disastrous for them. They’ll never vote to leave.” I was wrong.
makes me wonder if sometime in the near future we're gonna get a "BRe-entry".
I'm surprised "Pork Markets" Truss didn't get a look-in during the last section.
Just a reminder that if you go ahead with something that everyone advises you is stupid it’s gonna have consequences
Consequences like having a greater level of democratic control over our own laws and borders you mean? Or saving billions in EU membership fees each year? Or negotiating new trade deals? Or something else?
cant believe these lies are still believed
For the umpteenth time, the EU is *not* an economic bloc. It’s a political project, with the clear political goal of uniting Europe, and it uses the economy as a powerful means to achieve its goals.
The fact that UK largely opposed the EU’s political agenda, but wanted to reap the EU’s economic benefits, was a source of tension for decades and ultimately a root cause of Brexit.
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@@paulgibbon5991 Treaty of Rome 1957, to begin with.
The misspelling of credibility" at 1:33 is a fun bit of irony 😆 Regardless still love all the TLDR content!
The comment I came for.
Wow. You all must have chased Cameron out of no. 10 with pitchforks. What? You gave him peerage? What? You made him foreign minister?
Oh.
Cameron and Boris University-days ego war caused Brexit... Boris agreed to campaign on Remain with Cameron, but ego and greed got in the was, and Boris switched sides.
Good, Britain should have never left AS WE'VE BEEN TELLING U ALL ALONG!! (Regards: Dutch person who has a group of friends in the UK)
Sadly, the Dutch voted a party that is notorious for planning to leave EU.
@@iwantarandomname121 Luckily that party doesn't have a majority, has to form a coalition with 3 other parties and non of those parties want to leave the EU. PR, so lovely to have.
I could have told you this in 2016. I rmember thinking no one is talking about Northern Ireland. And that people can't acutally believe th bus. That leaving the common market will do more damage. It was going to take time, people were riding high until brexit was done, and then riding on the dillusion it would take a few years to smooth the bumps. But anyone who was paying attention could have told you bexit was an idiotic idea and that whoever initiated it would suffer immensely once people realised the truth.
Saludos from the other side of the pond, the Gringos can substitute Trump for Brexit and Republican for Tori and the analysis is pretty similar.
And Sunak removed all credibility for the Tories because he was a crap chancellor before becoming a crap PM.
Brexit was Cameron's protest against the EU. He had previously threatened to withdraw the UK from it unless terms were improved, but the EU refused to comply. His response was to call the referendum. He was hypocritical to subsequently support remain.
Brexit has not broken the Tories, they have broken themselves. The only possible benefit of Brexit was to support British industry by favouring it over anything foreign & also re-patriate (not necessarily nationalise) ownership of large ex-national industries like steel, power, water, railway operators. Tories have not & were never likely to bother doing any of this.
The Tories broke themselves not Brexit.
from an EU citizen to all British citizens, would you rejoin the EU if it was made clear it would be with no special deals or opt-outs, you have to sign on, like Sweden for-an-example, adopt the €uro 'eventually' -but the time period for that isn't fixed, but the UK would have to sign up to all EU institutions and treaties, or spend the next 10-15 years negotiation a limited single-market and customs union trade deal as part of the 'European Free Trade Association' and 'European Economic Area' but only if none of the EU nations didn't veto your deal.
Why not. We'll see how people feel about that once all the arguments are made.
Most people who voted don’t even know what they mean
Nope would not rejoin. The UK special deals, opt outs, vetos, none take up of the Euro - were all on the cards to be stripped away piece by piece. Brexit was ahead of the game! If everything was great with the EU we would not have huge rises across the EU in anti EU sentiment.
I could make a decent economic case for switching to driving on the right. The fact it'd cause fits of apoplexy and be doubtless fatal to the vilest of gammon is no more than another reason to do it.
That sucks for Scotland and Northern Ireland….
3:05 Thank you for mentioning this, I know people who voted for No that would now vote Yes ever since Brexit. The anti-independence campaign only won by lying, which is why a second independence referendum is necessary
Tories well and truly made a deal with the devil in 2016
It was always going to be so. Promises were made by Leave that were undeliverable. That was going to come back to bite them.
They were deliverable by they have clearly chosen not too.
@erbilUK There were many false statements that some people chose to belive, they were going to lose trust for that. edit typos.
@@devilsympathy1 why is it impossible to deal with immigration for example?
We couldn't reject people due to the EU freedom of movement before Brexit.
We can now we have left the EU, but we don't.
It was even a point in the conservative manifesto.
But they don't, it's not because they can't it's because they choose not to.
@@SaintGerbilUK the Tories are well known for being landlords, they benefit from the housing market shortage they have created and they will continue to do so for as long as they can to sustain their lifestyle of generating income by not working.
@@devilsympathy1 even if the only solution would be to build houses it's not a suitable solution.
At current level of immigration we would need a new Birmingham or Nottingham every year. How many Nottinghams can we fit into the country?
Part of England is the English countryside we would quickly lose it and be in a megacity one situation.
I regularly set these videos for alevel politics students - is there a typed transcript of the videos (not the UA-cam generated one)
can we get a video on the chaos in the house yesterday
Watched a 30 second unskipable ad just to get another 30 second unskipable ad after less than a minute of the video. Tldr more ad than video
You may have got you causality wrong on this one. If the tory party had been functioning before Brexit, David Cameron would not have been backed into a referendum in the first place.
I voted remain in 73 and mistakenly voted leave when Cameron gave us the choice.
It was way way too late to exit the EU
I would suggest it was the lack of Brexit that broke the Tory party.
Just pretend the issue doesn't exist and it will all go away.
An argument you could have also mentioned with credibility could have been Liz Truss. While not related to Brexit in a direct way, many of the ideas that Liz Truss was promoting in her package may not have neccessarily been possible without brexit happening, such as the bankers bonus cap. Obviously, this is a point againt them, because the the disaster of the mini budget, and could have strengthened the point.
The fact that the brexiteers never got around to an exit strategy until years after it started and resorted to hoping the European union will be gentle them after they got spitted on doesn't build confidence either.
So, in sum, devoting the entire apparatus of Government exclusively to maintaining a fantasy world view results in a bad time (sadly for all of us)
MPs thought they were back in the eton dining hall last night
It wasn't Brexit that broke the tory party; it was already fractured and the referendum was the result of said fracture. Have we forgotten already the history of UKIP and how it was risking the status quo of the Tory party? Had UKIP not gained so many votes, the tories wouldn't have given a referendum.
_If only people didn't have the freedom to vote for the party they wanted to?_
@@SaintGerbilUK I'm not sure what it is that you're getting at?
A high proportion of Tories have always been lowlifes,this increased dramatically when utterly disgraced former P.M Johnson took them over.
It was surprising to me that the majority of Britons take little interest in their own fate and objectively don't care at all. Of course they started to dislike the Conservative Party a little, but not too much. Everybody remains calm, very British and tries to view the situation as being God-given, quite unrelated to the politics of the London government.
Don't talk about Scotland like it's equal to England. It's only 1/12 of UK people. 8/9 English regions have more.