I recently interviewed Michael Davias, who created the LIDAR Imagery Tool featured in this video. If you want to learn more about the Carolina Bays, I'd highly recommend checking it out: ua-cam.com/video/8lA1IyTcsL8/v-deo.html
Randall Carlson has been recently discussing the various effects of the weight of water and ice on the Earth's crust. If there was a meteor impact or several impacts in the region of Canada and even in Greenland all at the same time the weight shift on the crust would be tremendous. The weather could have changed for decades. No one really knows. These small impact craters could only come from something re-impacting the ground.
Hardly small there are literally millions of bays and the small ones had a force in the 1 to 2 megaton range the big ones were orders of magnitude greater than our largest nuclear weapons so imagine a scenario where the us and russia nuke eachother to smithers 20,000x over and your only just begining to get a proper grasp of the severity because that entirely ignores the initial comet impactors and airbursts
Except for Antonio Zamora says the inpactor would need to be 12km in diameter which is on the scale of the KT impact at 10-15km. Even he says it would leave a crater under the ice sheet he claims it could have been eroded in a short period of geological time. Not sure how that would be possible as we even see Hiawatha crater today that's been under the ice for nearly 60 million years.
Hi Peter, We have a similar bunch of playa lakes up on the High Plains of Texas near Floydada. Since they are near the eastern edge of the Caprock, I had always assumed they were associated with rain water dissolving the substrate. Center pivot irrigation systems obscure some of them, but they are there. They tend to have clay soils, not common as much on the upper levels.
Yep, those are in the current mapping and make quite a powerful presentation. Called “Playas” of the High Plains, they play a critical role in recharging the High Plains Aquifer with rainwater.
I love Antonio Zamora's channel and how he deals with the Carolina Bays exclusively, he's literally written the book on them, crazy stuff, glacier chunks falling from orbit landing with 3-4 megatons of energy, then multiply that by 10K........ Micheal Bay couldn't do that event justice.
Thanks Peter for putting this together! You nailed the explanation of the interface. Allow me, as the supplier of the LiDAR display on Google Earth, to supply a hyperlink to a new paper just published which explains my alternate hypothesis. As noted below, the basins are way too shallow to have been caused by direct or indirect impacts. The proposal calls for the basins to be cavitation voids in the sand sheet they are found within, and those sand sheets were delivered by catastrophic geophysical flows many meters deep.
Links are getting stripped out of reply, but Peter’s full text above has the link for my survey. For my own personal proposal, see the recent GSA Special paper 553 at DOI 10.1130/2021.2553(24)
I don't want to sound rude (i know who i'm talking to) but you're saying: "The basins are way too shallow to be primary/secondary impacts.." ,but... If the saturation bombardment caused liquified soil, and if CB's are only found on unconsolidated soil.. I feel like these 2 processes explain the infilling of CB's... Right?
I may just have to read the paper, but i'm also curious (i don't quite understand the cavitation part) if 'cavitation points in the sand sheet' explain the convergence point found for most CB's.
Excellent presentation, you make such an interesting point at 6:45 when you speculate that the cause of the warming at 11,600 may have been caused by solar activity. This of course ties into the micro nova hypothesis but I had never put the two together like that. Bravo.
Awesome. I'm a qualified archaeologist and cartographer specialising in the period and have explored the area of Lake Huron. This is the strangest lake coastline I have ever seen. The geology around Honey Harbor is absolutely devastated by seismic shockwaves from the impact.
It's interesting that these Bays provide an alternative evidential base for Graham Hancock to that of Randal Carlson's Scabland ideas. Here we have datable physical evidence that fits the narrative. Antonio Zamora's analysis is very convincing and worthy of attention.
The Scablands have nothing to do with this pseudoscience. Tell me how a Clovis site sits on top of a Scablands Mega-flood Bar near Wenatchee if the floods had anything to do with the Clovis? The floods PREDATE CLOVIS OCCUPATION.
I would expect that the size of the craters would change with distance from the first impact site because the surface area to mass ratio of the larger flying ice blocks would be more favorable for a long flight through the atmosphere. Maybe the smaller blocks were drafting in the negative pressure zone behind larger blocks? This does not seem to be happening though. You see a small crater on top of a big crater about as often as a big crater on top of a small one. It is also hard to imagine how these ice blocks could be launched at an angle of over 30 degrees unless the original impactor burrowed so deep into the earth that the ice blocks were forced up the original impactors own crater walls. What if the original impactor struck a massive sheet of ice that was cushioned by water underneath it? The heat and steam created under the ice could certainly loft ice for a long distance and possibly explain why the ice was not smashed to little pieces flying mostly horizontally but instead was pushed from below by the volume change indued by the asteroid/comet plus all of the steam generated. Ice, when subjected to large pressures slowly will creep, but when it is suddenly shocked, it shatters into very small pieces. A lot of materials act differently to sudden shock versus slow heavy loads over time. this includes concrete, wood, glass and candle wax. This is why you should not use an ice model designed to predict ice creep to figure out what happens when an asteroid strikes a glacier.
There is similar around Esperance in WA, if you look on Google Earth and zoom out, very quickly you'll see hundreds and thousands of scars across the landscape, especially near thew Kau Rock Nature Reserve! More can be found between Madura and Forrest, and extend to the west and the east for HUNDREDS of kilometers! And to the South of Esperance is the Recherche Archipelago, with a BUNCH of Islands, something which is very out of the ordinary for the Australian coast line, especially along the Great Australian Bight! Something big happened at the bottom of Western Australia along the Bight and above the vast flat grassland, I just wish I knew what! (after looking at the co-ordinates, the salt lakes are from Western Australia, d'oh!)
Has any work been done to determine if the bays were created at the exact same time? As in are there examples where a later natural feature cuts through only certain bays?
@@tjj300 The energies of a cosmic impact are often beyond comprehension. Most glacial ice encountered was vaporized or ionized. But the Laurentide ice sheet at MIS 20 shielded a good part of the continent which was under ice. Any ejecta falling there was likely carried further south and deposited in terminal moraines.
Actually the modern crater axis meet point (epicenter) would've been due west of Saginaw Bay, roughly near the Lake Michigan coast of Wisconsin. The Saginaw area was the original site of the impact but with the flight-time (roughly 30 mins) of the ice boulders the Earth would've rotated, making it appear to originate further west.
Amazing, I notice the 'ovals' do not intrude on each other, it is as though at some stage after the main destructive event there was a chemical reaction and these ovals formed during the same time frame.
Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing your insights! Bravo 👏 👏 👏 Question: Do you think North America is a target location for reoccurring celestial events 🤔
I kind of wonder if there are some of those same features in Europe from an impact on the Ice sheet that covered Northern Europe about the same time as I have heard that some of the comet fragments also struck there
It would seem that many of the bays that may have been in the between the "wings" of the butterfly ejecta pattern would have been removed by the subsequent flooding of melt water pulse/pulses. I believe that there were more than a singular impact. Which would make sense if it were indeed a cometary bombardment.
That’s so fascinating to think that the Younger Dryas, the megafauna mass extinction, and the Carolina Bays might all be connected to one meteor or comet impact. It makes me wish we could just scrub backwards on the North American view from space and try to find what happened and when.
I live in central SC , bays are common all around me. How is the white “sugar”sand rim explained by this theory? Bays are geologically distinct from the surrounding terrain.
This theory does not explain the sand rims, no. Nor does it explain why those sand rims have heavier deposition on the north and east sides. What does explain them is wind erosion from prevailing south-westerly winds. These things were carved out during the last ice age, when the coastal areas were akin to Alaskan tundra, with little to no tree cover to block strong wind. In Georgia there are several "dunes" areas in the southern areas closer to the coast, they're always on the northern and eastern sides of rivers. Again, during the last ice age, prevailing south-westerly winds hit those riverbeds (which were dry or with much reduced waterflow, exposing sand which could be blown about) and deposited sand on the north and east sides/banks and beyond. Carolina Bays were created by wind, rain, and cold - nothing more, nothing less.
@@nothanks3236 I've read that on the bottom of many of these are dense organics like peat? I don't just post comments to see my own writing I'm interested in different perspectives the us used to have a lot of water from glacial runoff are you suggesting that these predate the glaciers? Or that shortly after the glaciers melted it was that dry?
@@patrickday4206 Their origin is likely related to one or more of the following scenarios, for which there is scientific evidence: they are (1) depressions scoured by currents or tidal eddies when the sea covered the area; (2) places where peat bogs burned during drought conditions with windblown sand along the resulting rims; (3) basins formed by springs near sand dunes; (4) valleys or depressions dammed by sandbars or giant sand ripples; (5) low areas between sand dunes or at the foot of a marine terrace; (6) lakes or low areas that were elongated by the erosive power of wind blowing in a particular direction for a long period of time; or (7) lime sinks with windblown sand along their rims. Geologists have not reached a large consensus on any one theory or combination, despite narrowing the possibilities down to what I noted above. Unfortunately there are not a huge number of geologists studying the bays, so a conclusive theory may be a long ways off. What most geologists do agree on is that they are not the result of an impact event (or events) as no evidence to that end has ever been uncovered in the bays anywhere from New Jersey to Georgia. This is one of many instances in geology where "we just don't know for sure." Edit: Source - Roadside Geology of Georgia (Gore and Witherspoon)
good stuff. love modern tech and youtubes like this. any dates to these things? there was some intreresting info about the great biblical flood and the tsunamis hitting britain and stuff nailed down to 8200 BCE which would be close enough for the invention of writing. ie: just prehistoric Atlantis, etc without the aliens. Dig, we must :).
"extraterrestrial impact hypotheses: A meteorite impact hypothesis was proposed for Carolina bays in a 1933 publication by Melton and Schriever.[38] However, geologists later determined that the depressions are too shallow and that they lack evidence of impact features. Reports of magnetic anomalies do not show consistency across the sites, and there are no meteorite fragments, shatter cones, or planar deformation features.[39] Nevertheless, an extraterrestrial impact origin of Carolina bays was proposed again in association with the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis [40] and the theory that the Carolina bays were created by a low density comet exploding above or impacting on the Laurentide Ice Sheet about 12,900 years ago. However, this theory has been discredited by OSL dating of the rims of the Carolina bays, paleoenvironmental records obtained from cores of Carolina bay sediments, and other research related to the Laurentide Ice Sheet.[20][16][30][41][42][43] Another recent theory proposes an origin of the Carolina bays, instead, from a different impact event posited to have occurred in Michigan >700,000 years ago. According to this theory, the Carolina bays "are surface imperfections within a blanket of ballistically deposited shattered sedimentary strata (sand), generated at time of emplacement by the energetic deflation of steam inclusions."[44] According to this theory, the Carolina bays are interpreted as having been caused by ejecta caused by an extraterrestrial impact, and rotation of the Earth during time of ejecta flight would have systematically displaced orientations, consistent with an impact event centered in Michigan.[44] However, this interpretation of the Carolina bays is inconsistent with the abundant core and auger data that have revealed no sign of the Carolina bay sediments being disturbed or deformed. Furthermore, geologists have not found any evidence for such an impact having occurred in Michigan." Not that hard to research.
The sheets of sand the bays are found imbedded across the continent in have rejected being dated. They are older than OSL's ability and younger than the known age of the underlying marine deposits. They have no fossils. Daniels, Gamble and Wheeler spent the 1970’s trying to constrain their origin but failed after all know gradualistic methods of deposition were found lacking across the wide expanse of Carolina bay localities. The MPT Impact hypothesis tests the idea that those multi-meter sheets of sand were spread as geophysical mass flows from a distant impact and the basins are but mere surface imperfections in the blankets - perhaps “burst bubbles” as the hydrated high temperature flows depressurized. The hypothesis suggests a simple application 10Be/26Al burial dating might reveal the depositional age of that regolith upon the dated marine terraces.
Interesting perspective. It’s easy to blame humans for past megafauna extinction. It is a convenient explanation and fits well into current political narratives. Hubris on our part. We have less control than we think.
The Algonquin name for Carolina bays is “Pocosin”. Its literal translation is “swamp on a hill”. Given their deep knowledge of the Earth’s landscape, they are aware that swamps don’t normally exist on hills. Especially when their elevation above nearby drainage only requires a 100 ft trench 5 ft deep to drain it. Why did they not drain on their own????
Many Carolina Bays exist today as Carolina Bay Lakes. There was an 8,000 year old canoe pulled out of Lake Phelps. The Carolina bay areas are on the coastal plane in heavily wooded areas. When large fires occur here, they tend to migrate underground and burn the underlying peat. This still happens today. These fires can burn for months until extinguished by heavy rain. A new theory emerged which I believe correct is the bays were formed by these great fires burning out these bowls. Rain fills the burned out bowls with water and they become lakes which are populated with Cyprus trees and dry up or persist as lakes. These lakes are beautiful and clear, you can see the bottom through the water.
@@Kiddflash02 this is exactly what I thought too. It doesn’t explain orientation. And, the fact that these bays are full of peat that all burn in the same cylindrical direction…it’s just too neat and tidy. What would make more sense is if the divots came first and are now full of heavily wooded areas and peat after 12000 years of growth and decay, giving them a convenient place to have an underground fire.
Go check out the pagebof Geology Professor Nick Zentner here on youtube. He lives and teaches in Washington. He has a ton of videos so it will take a few minutes searching. But he has one or two very specifically on this subject. If I remember correctly it is actually pretty well confirmed that the floods all did cone from Lake Missoula but its been a while since Ive seen his specific video on the subject. Either way its a great great watch and I think youll find it very interesting if this subject interests you. Also Nick is an amazing teacher and Geologist all of his videos are incredible to watch. He even livestreams his classroom lectures. Great video by the way.
Nick Zentner is brilliant and very entertaining. I don't know that he has done anything on these Bays however. He provides evidence for the Lake Missoula floods and doesn't touch upon Impact theories as he doesn't have to, the facts are self evident as they are. There were many floods but that is not to say that a few weren't catastrophic and even so no one claims that they were all of the same 'size' and duration. Carlson cherry picked an idea and Hancock served it up to the World which is now a stale dish for him given Zamora's analysis. Nick's video on 'Ice Age Floods' is a relaxing view :-) ua-cam.com/video/3wKOVZKimwg/v-deo.html
I still don't get how the craters would be made oval shaped if they were the result of falling ejecta from a cosmic collision. And why would they point to the impact point when measured along their longer axis?
The falling ejecta would have fallen at an angle , the more oval shape, the more further distance ejecta travelled. Think of a paint brush , then fling it at the wall instead of applying it the correct way . The splattered paint further from you will have more of an oval shape then the paint closest to you. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. I Thank you for your time.
I have lived in mid NC all my life and until I started watching magnetic news reversal “Diamond” I never even heard of these! The schools don’t teach this at all! What a shame my own region does not teach obvious geography….
I've followed Randall for a while, but I never conceptualized the "multiple impacts" as being thousands of Tunguska level impacts accompanying the major impacts. Horrifying
My thinking is the bays may be a result of the weight of the North American ice sheets squeezing ground water up and out at the bays. The immense weight of ice would have displaced a lot of ground water. That water would likely have migrated away from the weight and may have been forced up through the soil in the area of the bays. Like a squeezing sponge.
There is no evidence of an impact if you dig under the Carolina bays , this feature is a product of the last ice age permafrost, this is happening today in Alaska,Russia and many places in the arctic circle.
Most of the east coast was a swamp until settlers began draining them which was being done in Europe during the same time! Couldn't they have been remnants of them?
As you have the same phenomena in Eurasia, that put out the meteor hypothesis, or there is a reason why more of one of those were able to shut n the ground... So not the first cause. The meteor hypothesis is useful in fact to not talk about the Sun event, and as a global Solar system catastrophy, Galactic twelve thousand years event, but as you say, center climate impact to human and animal beings... So a false narrative made to lost Us. The best hypothesis is the going down of Earth magnetic field, allowing proton rains and electric discharges tremendous Auroras, that can explain those round wholes in a particular ground. But misinformation had been spread even on scientifs, so this cartography is very useful to study by ourselves a particular phenomenon, but remember this is only part of a very bigger and bigger tremendous event from Sun and galactic wave, as we are already in, that's the very important thing, what's allready going on. And we have proofs of the event coming soon very soon, so, not time to play, but action. I don't care being censored by some, or that we could be trolled by some as a pseudoconspiracy, this is not the case and having no time for games. What I want, is study the truth, what going on and how to manage our future, saving some science and Wisdom for humanity, if possible, making a future better world, not reproducing the actual era finishing in lies and non sense. One chanel YT I go every day is the one from suspicious Observers. All videos are refered to scientific publications. They have a playlist to do the homework and a book for being more practical. So those are tools for the scientifical teaching. Fo the geological and human side I search on different ways, google Earth and your channel is very useful, and Ancient Architects YT chanel, for the search for one hundred twenty centuries old populations, actually i'm looking mostly on Turkey/ Caucasian evidences of first villages settlements, because living in Eurasia, searching for the best place to survive for the future event, probably the next solar cycle when North and South magnetic poles will reaches an new time in reversing as consequence to the magnetic galactic reversal recurrent wave, causing also the solar recurrent micronova. Be aware we don't stop study, a lot of scientists around the world are now trying to know more, so we more and more focusing on the truth. 🙏🧡💚
There something that mess up my brain why would that all be12 000 years ago wen most of the tree we have in North America are not even a 100 years old? Maybe this reason is wrong but it sure is a clue i think
The Taum Sauk reservoir failure in 2005 turned the mountain side forest into a 200 yard wide bare rock scour path in a matter of minutes. There will probably be some youtuber 15,000 years from now with his theory that an intergalactic alignment produced a mega CME which caused a hell of a rain storm and washed it out. hahaha. google it.
The fact that the Bays regardless where located, all point to one place up north is quite revealing. Theory is large impact on Ice Sheet, giant pieces launched in ballistic arc, secondary impacts are the Bays, and there probably was pieces of ice launching again from Bay impact. Lots of secondary impacts over larger Bays.
I recently interviewed Michael Davias, who created the LIDAR Imagery Tool featured in this video. If you want to learn more about the Carolina Bays, I'd highly recommend checking it out:
ua-cam.com/video/8lA1IyTcsL8/v-deo.html
I recommend learning about these natural formations from a geologist or reputable science publishers like Sci Show, Geo Models, or Geology Hub.
This promotes fake science/news and should not be online. You are a liar. This explanation is AS wrong as flat earth
More of these kinds of videos! You nail the explanations. Very digestible 10 minutes regarding such a vast topic. Well done
Randall Carlson has been recently discussing the various effects of the weight of water and ice on the Earth's crust. If there was a meteor impact or several impacts in the region of Canada and even in Greenland all at the same time the weight shift on the crust would be tremendous. The weather could have changed for decades. No one really knows. These small impact craters could only come from something re-impacting the ground.
Amen. Secondary impacts & soil liquefaction.
Hardly small there are literally millions of bays and the small ones had a force in the 1 to 2 megaton range the big ones were orders of magnitude greater than our largest nuclear weapons so imagine a scenario where the us and russia nuke eachother to smithers 20,000x over and your only just begining to get a proper grasp of the severity because that entirely ignores the initial comet impactors and airbursts
Except for Antonio Zamora says the inpactor would need to be 12km in diameter which is on the scale of the KT impact at 10-15km. Even he says it would leave a crater under the ice sheet he claims it could have been eroded in a short period of geological time. Not sure how that would be possible as we even see Hiawatha crater today that's been under the ice for nearly 60 million years.
Hi Peter,
We have a similar bunch of playa lakes up on the High Plains of Texas
near Floydada. Since they are near the eastern edge of the Caprock,
I had always assumed they were associated with rain water
dissolving the substrate. Center pivot irrigation systems obscure
some of them, but they are there. They tend to have clay soils,
not common as much on the upper levels.
Yep, those are in the current mapping and make quite a powerful presentation. Called “Playas” of the High Plains, they play a critical role in recharging the High Plains Aquifer with rainwater.
the algorithm blessed me with your videos. this is fascinating, please do more on this topic!
I love Antonio Zamora's channel and how he deals with the Carolina Bays exclusively, he's literally written the book on them, crazy stuff, glacier chunks falling from orbit landing with 3-4 megatons of energy, then multiply that by 10K........ Micheal Bay couldn't do that event justice.
Michael Bay would be perfect as Antonio Zamora's idea IS Hollywood stuff.
Thanks Peter for putting this together! You nailed the explanation of the interface. Allow me, as the supplier of the LiDAR display on Google Earth, to supply a hyperlink to a new paper just published which explains my alternate hypothesis. As noted below, the basins are way too shallow to have been caused by direct or indirect impacts. The proposal calls for the basins to be cavitation voids in the sand sheet they are found within, and those sand sheets were delivered by catastrophic geophysical flows many meters deep.
Did the link get stripped? Another way to find it?
Links are getting stripped out of reply, but Peter’s full text above has the link for my survey. For my own personal proposal, see the recent GSA Special paper 553 at DOI 10.1130/2021.2553(24)
I don't want to sound rude (i know who i'm talking to) but you're saying: "The basins are way too shallow to be primary/secondary impacts.." ,but... If the saturation bombardment caused liquified soil, and if CB's are only found on unconsolidated soil.. I feel like these 2 processes explain the infilling of CB's... Right?
I may just have to read the paper, but i'm also curious (i don't quite understand the cavitation part) if 'cavitation points in the sand sheet' explain the convergence point found for most CB's.
Excellent presentation. The best and most informative I have seen. Eager to watch more now. Thank you.
Excellent presentation, you make such an interesting point at 6:45 when you speculate that the cause of the warming at 11,600 may have been caused by solar activity. This of course ties into the micro nova hypothesis but I had never put the two together like that. Bravo.
Awesome. I'm a qualified archaeologist and cartographer specialising in the period and have explored the area of Lake Huron. This is the strangest lake coastline I have ever seen. The geology around Honey Harbor is absolutely devastated by seismic shockwaves from the impact.
This is another wonderful video. Keep ‘em coming! Now, if we can just educate the rest of the population…
Absolutely love this series man!
It's interesting that these Bays provide an alternative evidential base for Graham Hancock to that of Randal Carlson's Scabland ideas. Here we have datable physical evidence that fits the narrative. Antonio Zamora's analysis is very convincing and worthy of attention.
The Scablands have nothing to do with this pseudoscience. Tell me how a Clovis site sits on top of a Scablands Mega-flood Bar near Wenatchee if the floods had anything to do with the Clovis? The floods PREDATE CLOVIS OCCUPATION.
Thanks for the maps and this important discussion Peter.
This is amazing. Thanks for providing the downloadable file. Works perfectly. So interesting!
Am amazed at these phenomena .....great study material...and most appreciative of the group of few proposing this fascinating history...
Bro, Your boy Ben on Suspicious Observers is spot in!
Very interesting. I’ve never heard of these before.
I would expect that the size of the craters would change with distance from the first impact site because the surface area to mass ratio of the larger flying ice blocks would be more favorable for a long flight through the atmosphere. Maybe the smaller blocks were drafting in the negative pressure zone behind larger blocks? This does not seem to be happening though. You see a small crater on top of a big crater about as often as a big crater on top of a small one. It is also hard to imagine how these ice blocks could be launched at an angle of over 30 degrees unless the original impactor burrowed so deep into the earth that the ice blocks were forced up the original impactors own crater walls. What if the original impactor struck a massive sheet of ice that was cushioned by water underneath it? The heat and steam created under the ice could certainly loft ice for a long distance and possibly explain why the ice was not smashed to little pieces flying mostly horizontally but instead was pushed from below by the volume change indued by the asteroid/comet plus all of the steam generated. Ice, when subjected to large pressures slowly will creep, but when it is suddenly shocked, it shatters into very small pieces. A lot of materials act differently to sudden shock versus slow heavy loads over time. this includes concrete, wood, glass and candle wax. This is why you should not use an ice model designed to predict ice creep to figure out what happens when an asteroid strikes a glacier.
What's the competing explanation about their formation?
Fish swimming around in circles in prehistoric seas, or the wind after the seas receded.
I am really glad you have studied Anthony Zamora. I happen to think he is right or very close to it.
Amazing, can't believe this isn't more widely known.
Definitely thermokarst lakes. Many of them vary vastly in age, which completely obliterates the impact theory
There is similar around Esperance in WA, if you look on Google Earth and zoom out, very quickly you'll see hundreds and thousands of scars across the landscape, especially near thew Kau Rock Nature Reserve! More can be found between Madura and Forrest, and extend to the west and the east for HUNDREDS of kilometers!
And to the South of Esperance is the Recherche Archipelago, with a BUNCH of Islands, something which is very out of the ordinary for the Australian coast line, especially along the Great Australian Bight! Something big happened at the bottom of Western Australia along the Bight and above the vast flat grassland, I just wish I knew what!
(after looking at the co-ordinates, the salt lakes are from Western Australia, d'oh!)
Has any work been done to determine if the bays were created at the exact same time? As in are there examples where a later natural feature cuts through only certain bays?
Should be able to trace a complete circle from the airburst. Makes me question the formation of some lakes up here in Canada. Great info sir.
No airburst. Ejecta from an actual impact.on the ice sheet. Ejected as ice but falling as huge blobs of water.
@@tjj300'falling as huge blobs of water' - not possible, because physics.
@@daos3300 You tell me what a 100-ton melting block of ice on a suborbital trajectory is going to fall as.
@@tjj300 The energies of a cosmic impact are often beyond comprehension. Most glacial ice encountered was vaporized or ionized. But the Laurentide ice sheet at MIS 20 shielded a good part of the continent which was under ice. Any ejecta falling there was likely carried further south and deposited in terminal moraines.
Actually the modern crater axis meet point (epicenter) would've been due west of Saginaw Bay, roughly near the Lake Michigan coast of Wisconsin. The Saginaw area was the original site of the impact but with the flight-time (roughly 30 mins) of the ice boulders the Earth would've rotated, making it appear to originate further west.
Fascinating detail.
Subscribed!! High-quality videos.
Amazing, I notice the 'ovals' do not intrude on each other, it is as though at some stage after the main destructive event there was a chemical reaction and these ovals formed during the same time frame.
Fantastic video. Thank you for sharing your insights! Bravo 👏 👏 👏
Question:
Do you think North America is a target location for reoccurring celestial events 🤔
I kind of wonder if there are some of those same features in Europe from an impact on the Ice sheet that covered Northern Europe about the same time as I have heard that some of the comet fragments also struck there
Suspicious Hancock Carlson Vogt Observing alert.
Good stuff.
As for alternative hypothesis, have a look at GSA Special Paper 553, chapter 24.
Appreciate your work in the two Vids I just watched. Thank you! I live in the Purcell trench, :)
You really light up the woo detector.
It would be nice to see if we can find something on the bottom of a bay like that
It would seem that many of the bays that may have been in the between the "wings" of the butterfly ejecta pattern would have been removed by the subsequent flooding of melt water pulse/pulses. I believe that there were more than a singular impact. Which would make sense if it were indeed a cometary bombardment.
That’s so fascinating to think that the Younger Dryas, the megafauna mass extinction, and the Carolina Bays might all be connected to one meteor or comet impact. It makes me wish we could just scrub backwards on the North American view from space and try to find what happened and when.
Thanks for the video
I live in central SC , bays are common all around me. How is the white “sugar”sand rim explained by this theory? Bays are geologically distinct from the surrounding terrain.
This theory does not explain the sand rims, no. Nor does it explain why those sand rims have heavier deposition on the north and east sides. What does explain them is wind erosion from prevailing south-westerly winds. These things were carved out during the last ice age, when the coastal areas were akin to Alaskan tundra, with little to no tree cover to block strong wind. In Georgia there are several "dunes" areas in the southern areas closer to the coast, they're always on the northern and eastern sides of rivers. Again, during the last ice age, prevailing south-westerly winds hit those riverbeds (which were dry or with much reduced waterflow, exposing sand which could be blown about) and deposited sand on the north and east sides/banks and beyond. Carolina Bays were created by wind, rain, and cold - nothing more, nothing less.
@@nothanks3236 I disagree I think it's more likely water blown by the wind lapping on a shore line
@@patrickday4206 You can think what you want but most geologists agree with the argument I made in my original post.
@@nothanks3236 I've read that on the bottom of many of these are dense organics like peat? I don't just post comments to see my own writing I'm interested in different perspectives the us used to have a lot of water from glacial runoff are you suggesting that these predate the glaciers? Or that shortly after the glaciers melted it was that dry?
@@patrickday4206 Their origin is likely related to one or more of the following scenarios, for which there is scientific evidence: they are (1) depressions scoured by currents or tidal eddies when the sea covered the area; (2) places where peat bogs burned during drought conditions with windblown sand along the resulting rims; (3) basins formed by springs near sand dunes; (4) valleys or depressions dammed by sandbars or giant sand ripples; (5) low areas between sand dunes or at the foot of a marine terrace; (6) lakes or low areas that were elongated by the erosive power of wind blowing in a particular direction for a long period of time; or (7) lime sinks with windblown sand along their rims. Geologists have not reached a large consensus on any one theory or combination, despite narrowing the possibilities down to what I noted above. Unfortunately there are not a huge number of geologists studying the bays, so a conclusive theory may be a long ways off. What most geologists do agree on is that they are not the result of an impact event (or events) as no evidence to that end has ever been uncovered in the bays anywhere from New Jersey to Georgia. This is one of many instances in geology where "we just don't know for sure." Edit: Source - Roadside Geology of Georgia (Gore and Witherspoon)
Ice ejecta sounds more plausible than meteorites, or whatever. The tracing of the orientations must have been a tedious job.
look at Minnesota almost the same. also wi in some areas. wouldnt be suprised if there is a fallout line of sorts
Makes me wonder if anyone has looked that the area where the bay's point to. You showed that to be in the Michigan area.
Really neat. Thank you!
Does anyone know exactly when these Bays formed?
Periodically over a 100k year period ending around 10k years ago
Fascinating!
good stuff. love modern tech and youtubes like this. any dates to these things? there was some intreresting info about the great biblical flood and the tsunamis hitting britain and stuff nailed down to 8200 BCE which would be close enough for the invention of writing. ie: just prehistoric Atlantis, etc without the aliens. Dig, we must :).
"extraterrestrial impact hypotheses: A meteorite impact hypothesis was proposed for Carolina bays in a 1933 publication by Melton and Schriever.[38] However, geologists later determined that the depressions are too shallow and that they lack evidence of impact features. Reports of magnetic anomalies do not show consistency across the sites, and there are no meteorite fragments, shatter cones, or planar deformation features.[39] Nevertheless, an extraterrestrial impact origin of Carolina bays was proposed again in association with the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis [40] and the theory that the Carolina bays were created by a low density comet exploding above or impacting on the Laurentide Ice Sheet about 12,900 years ago. However, this theory has been discredited by OSL dating of the rims of the Carolina bays, paleoenvironmental records obtained from cores of Carolina bay sediments, and other research related to the Laurentide Ice Sheet.[20][16][30][41][42][43] Another recent theory proposes an origin of the Carolina bays, instead, from a different impact event posited to have occurred in Michigan >700,000 years ago. According to this theory, the Carolina bays "are surface imperfections within a blanket of ballistically deposited shattered sedimentary strata (sand), generated at time of emplacement by the energetic deflation of steam inclusions."[44] According to this theory, the Carolina bays are interpreted as having been caused by ejecta caused by an extraterrestrial impact, and rotation of the Earth during time of ejecta flight would have systematically displaced orientations, consistent with an impact event centered in Michigan.[44] However, this interpretation of the Carolina bays is inconsistent with the abundant core and auger data that have revealed no sign of the Carolina bay sediments being disturbed or deformed. Furthermore, geologists have not found any evidence for such an impact having occurred in Michigan."
Not that hard to research.
The sheets of sand the bays are found imbedded across the continent in have rejected being dated. They are older than OSL's ability and younger than the known age of the underlying marine deposits. They have no fossils. Daniels, Gamble and Wheeler spent the 1970’s trying to constrain their origin but failed after all know gradualistic methods of deposition were found lacking across the wide expanse of Carolina bay localities. The MPT Impact hypothesis tests the idea that those multi-meter sheets of sand were spread as geophysical mass flows from a distant impact and the basins are but mere surface imperfections in the blankets - perhaps “burst bubbles” as the hydrated high temperature flows depressurized. The hypothesis suggests a simple application 10Be/26Al burial dating might reveal the depositional age of that regolith upon the dated marine terraces.
Interesting perspective. It’s easy to blame humans for past megafauna extinction. It is a convenient explanation and fits well into current political narratives. Hubris on our part. We have less control than we think.
What do the indigenous peoples have to say about the origin/ formation of the Bays?
The Algonquin name for Carolina bays is “Pocosin”. Its literal translation is “swamp on a hill”. Given their deep knowledge of the Earth’s landscape, they are aware that swamps don’t normally exist on hills. Especially when their elevation above nearby drainage only requires a 100 ft trench 5 ft deep to drain it. Why did they not drain on their own????
Many Carolina Bays exist today as Carolina Bay Lakes. There was an 8,000 year old canoe pulled out of Lake Phelps. The Carolina bay areas are on the coastal plane in heavily wooded areas. When large fires occur here, they tend to migrate underground and burn the underlying peat. This still happens today. These fires can burn for months until extinguished by heavy rain. A new theory emerged which I believe correct is the bays were formed by these great fires burning out these bowls. Rain fills the burned out bowls with water and they become lakes which are populated with Cyprus trees and dry up or persist as lakes. These lakes are beautiful and clear, you can see the bottom through the water.
does that explain the orientation of the bays though?
@@Kiddflash02 this is exactly what I thought too. It doesn’t explain orientation. And, the fact that these bays are full of peat that all burn in the same cylindrical direction…it’s just too neat and tidy. What would make more sense is if the divots came first and are now full of heavily wooded areas and peat after 12000 years of growth and decay, giving them a convenient place to have an underground fire.
@@Kiddflash02 Nor does it explain overlapping bays, IMO. Further, the peat filled a hole, what made the hole?
Thanks, nice to see and read science that is far more informed than the tepid, decrepit Wikipedia page for this topic. Much is changing fast. Thanks.
Winds?
It's a rough neighborhood. Thanks.
Fantastic work. I downloaded the KMZ file for Google earth and it's amazing. Just the tool I was looking for. Why? Because it's there ;-)
Go check out the pagebof Geology Professor Nick Zentner here on youtube. He lives and teaches in Washington. He has a ton of videos so it will take a few minutes searching. But he has one or two very specifically on this subject. If I remember correctly it is actually pretty well confirmed that the floods all did cone from Lake Missoula but its been a while since Ive seen his specific video on the subject. Either way its a great great watch and I think youll find it very interesting if this subject interests you. Also Nick is an amazing teacher and Geologist all of his videos are incredible to watch. He even livestreams his classroom lectures. Great video by the way.
Nick Zentner is brilliant and very entertaining. I don't know that he has done anything on these Bays however. He provides evidence for the Lake Missoula floods and doesn't touch upon Impact theories as he doesn't have to, the facts are self evident as they are. There were many floods but that is not to say that a few weren't catastrophic and even so no one claims that they were all of the same 'size' and duration. Carlson cherry picked an idea and Hancock served it up to the World which is now a stale dish for him given Zamora's analysis. Nick's video on 'Ice Age Floods' is a relaxing view :-) ua-cam.com/video/3wKOVZKimwg/v-deo.html
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@@nothanks3236 lol
Very interesting. Keep these videos coming please.
all the megafauna looks to have been piled up in the Artic!
I still don't get how the craters would be made oval shaped if they were the result of falling ejecta from a cosmic collision. And why would they point to the impact point when measured along their longer axis?
The falling ejecta would have fallen at an angle , the more oval shape, the more further distance ejecta travelled. Think of a paint brush , then fling it at the wall instead of applying it the correct way . The splattered paint further from you will have more of an oval shape then the paint closest to you. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it. I Thank you for your time.
Check out southwest Australia.
Interesting thought. Could the upheaval of ice balls gone out into space and hit the moon
I have lived in mid NC all my life and until I started watching magnetic news reversal “Diamond” I never even heard of these! The schools don’t teach this at all! What a shame my own region does not teach obvious geography….
The angle of impact sprayed matter
Like a acoustic ceiling spray hopper
Sharp angle bounced material a thousand miles
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I live in SC and never knew what happened in my area. Huge boulders are strewn about all over my property
Well that would have nothing to do with the terrestrial impact of 12,900 year ago.
@@jonglewongle3438 It might if the impact ejecta from the ice sheet carried those bolders there.
Have you investigated where the boulders came from?
I've followed Randall for a while, but I never conceptualized the "multiple impacts" as being thousands of Tunguska level impacts accompanying the major impacts. Horrifying
awesome!
There's many Carolina Bay Ovals in Florida also. How'd they miss them?
Shockwave features?
Complain about the worst day of your life ... not even close. Thanks for the presentation. Well Done!
Fingerprints of the gods, great book by Graham Hancock that helps explain allot of what your talking about here.
tidal pools from a rapidly receding coastline?
minnasota and the carolinas remind me very much of one another
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I'm pretty sure giant sloths weren't massive predators except to avocado trees. Most of the megafauna were herbivores.
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My thinking is the bays may be a result of the weight of the North American ice sheets squeezing ground water up and out at the bays. The immense weight of ice would have displaced a lot of ground water. That water would likely have migrated away from the weight and may have been forced up through the soil in the area of the bays. Like a squeezing sponge.
Maybe a Catastrophic Flooding Event, maybe all of this happened in a much shorter period of time?
Saw dust on plywood floor
Air burst spread
Produces elliptical patterns
That's the key
Ellipses
Cenotes in Yucatan
Massive Plasma Blast from the Sun. Although the impact Theory seems plausible also...🤔
There is no evidence of an impact if you dig under the Carolina bays , this feature is a product of the last ice age permafrost, this is happening today in Alaska,Russia and many places in the arctic circle.
Could the bays have been caused by electrical discharge?
11.6kya could have been caused by a maritime impact also. Water vapor is the best greenhouse gas.
If you've ever been in a Carolina Bay, you can "feel" them.
Whoa
exploding water from
giant thunderbolts?
probably the worse day in human history imagine being there seeing hundred of thousands giant hail coming down probably with sonic booms
are you going to ignore the lichtenberg figures like Antonio and the orientation of the bays?
Most of the east coast was a swamp until settlers began draining them which was being done in Europe during the same time! Couldn't they have been remnants of them?
It's not a comet. Electric discharges.
As you have the same phenomena in Eurasia, that put out the meteor hypothesis, or there is a reason why more of one of those were able to shut n the ground... So not the first cause. The meteor hypothesis is useful in fact to not talk about the Sun event, and as a global Solar system catastrophy, Galactic twelve thousand years event, but as you say, center climate impact to human and animal beings... So a false narrative made to lost Us. The best hypothesis is the going down of Earth magnetic field, allowing proton rains and electric discharges tremendous Auroras, that can explain those round wholes in a particular ground. But misinformation had been spread even on scientifs, so this cartography is very useful to study by ourselves a particular phenomenon, but remember this is only part of a very bigger and bigger tremendous event from Sun and galactic wave, as we are already in, that's the very important thing, what's allready going on. And we have proofs of the event coming soon very soon, so, not time to play, but action. I don't care being censored by some, or that we could be trolled by some as a pseudoconspiracy, this is not the case and having no time for games. What I want, is study the truth, what going on and how to manage our future, saving some science and Wisdom for humanity, if possible, making a future better world, not reproducing the actual era finishing in lies and non sense.
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They found one in East Texas
There something that mess up my brain why would that all be12 000 years ago wen most of the tree we have in North America are not even a 100 years old? Maybe this reason is wrong but it sure is a clue i think
The Carolina bays were not caused by impactors, but by melting permafrost.
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The Taum Sauk reservoir failure in 2005 turned the mountain side forest into a 200 yard wide bare rock scour path in a matter of minutes. There will probably be some youtuber 15,000 years from now with his theory that an intergalactic alignment produced a mega CME which caused a hell of a rain storm and washed it out. hahaha. google it.
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The fact that the Bays regardless where located, all point to one place up north is quite revealing. Theory is large impact on Ice Sheet, giant pieces launched in ballistic arc, secondary impacts are the Bays, and there probably was pieces of ice launching again from Bay impact. Lots of secondary impacts over larger Bays.
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