Stop Already: Fujifilm 18-55mm vs 27mm; which is better? Checking San Francisco out with both!
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- Man, I see this question come up way too often: which should I get, the 27mm f2.8 pancake or the 18-55mm 'kit' lens? I took both lenses on a 12 hour walk to gather my thoughts on them, get in some killer shots of tall buildings to make some big prints, and ramble on about who each is for!
Leave some comments with your thoughts and keep in mind that all of this is just my opinion and views. If you bought one, and I didn't agree it was the right way to go, who cares! I love them both, so you win anyway in my book.
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Technical:
All video shot with a Canon S100.
Video put together in DaVinci Resolve.
Photos all taken with the X-E1. Thumbnail taken with the S100.
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For me it's the 27mm hands down... Stays glued to my X-E1...
I’ll always keep my x10 and x-e1, wondering if I should trade in my old 27mm for a newer 27mm or 18mm R
The 27 is way more portable, which is why it is my most used lens. Love it! Nice to see you using an xe1. I bought one last year and love it.
I really really wanted this to be my most used lens, being able to stick it in your pocket is just so fantastic. However in practice, it was far too narrow for day to day use and too wide/slow for low-light or portraits: can't take a selfie, can't take a group shot usually, forget about use indoors, focusing is very unreliable in low light and very loud in video, I found I always brought it with me, but never used it. I'm putting it up for sale. Conversely, I bought a 13mm F1.4 recently from Viltrox, despite it's huge size and weight, I constantly gravitate towards it for the magical photos it gives, the other frequently used lens is the Fuji 35mm F2 for portraits with great creamy bokeh, it just feels so great to use too.
Very nice...I like your style and subscribed. By the way, I have both the 27 and the 18-55 and your assessment is spot on. Keep up the good work! RJ
You got the best Fuji ever made. Good job. I sold my xpro1 after seeing the XE1 was a smaller , newer version with a flash.
Interesting. I kept the 27mm and sold the 18-55. I also bought the 15-45 as it's much smaller and lighter than the 18-55, plus 15mm at the wide end I find is more useful. The build quality of the 15-45 won't win any prizes but it's optically good enough and, if it breaks, it's relatively cheap to replace. I'd prefer the 15-45 even more if it was a manual rather than power zoom.
Yea the power zoom kills it for me, even if having 15mm is tempting. I'm going to have to check out how it is at 15mm and see about giving it a shot. No pun intended.
I did the exact same thing. I never got good results with 2 different 18-55. I sold them and purchased the 15-45, it's way sharper. I don't care for the power zoom but the photos are nice. I also own the 27mm which is a wonderful lens.
I own both these lenses, and although I feel the 27mm is a bit sharper and has more contrast, the one I use when shooting with intention is the "kit"lens. I only use the 27 when I take my camera with me just because I want a camera with me. Love both lenses! I can;t bring myself to buy the 16-55, I'm just not sure if I want to be dragging around a big lens like that on my tiny X-T30.
The more I go back and look at stuff and process stuff from this shoot, the more I am noticing the contrast difference. The 27mm is a better lens. In the grand scheme of things, it's not that great, (actually prefer the output from the old Sigma 24mm Ultrawide II circa early 90's), but the difference is there and it gets more apparent as I sit and stare at stuff, and figure out which images are more satisfactory than others.
It sounds pedantic, but when you want to print something like 24x36, it means the difference between a satisfactory image and trash.
I have the 16-55 and really I got it for landscape use. That said, I haven’t gone out and done any serious work with it. As a walk around lens it’s way too heavy; the 18-55 or 18-135 are better choices, in the one lens category. Currently I carry the 18-55 on camera and the 55-200 in the bag. But if I were to carry just one lens on my X-T3 it would be the 18-135.
The 18-55 is for everything, the 27 is for everyone
If you select the red ‘A’ on the zoom lens, you can change aperture via the dial on the camera
The newer 27 with aperture ring and WR is even better.
nice and informative video, thanks a lot. After all the lens review videos I watched recently, this was like a therapy to me :D
especially with the clever use of ambient music.
I have both. The 27mm lives on my x-e2, the super small/light 15-45mm Fujinon lives on my x-t20, the 18-55 shares duty with my Fujinon f2 primes on my x-t2.
I got both. The 27mm 2.8 came with my xe4 (and with an apeture ring) and got the 18-55mm bc I wanted a zoom lens.
Argh, I screwed up my 27mm. Tried to be cool by using a metal screw-in cap. It fit pretty snugly, and I had to exert some strength to attach and remove it. Now, when I turn the camera on, I almost invariably get the dreaded "turn camera off and on again" error message until I manually push the front part of the lens in. Only a question of time until I murder the motor that way. Why do I have to be such a poser!
Ah man! Well, that's how you learn. That lens is so small I'm to chicken to even really use the CPL for it. It got kinda stuck once and I was like "nope!"
@@forgottencameras Yeah, apparently it's got a reputation for that kind of trouble. I'm considering the new version with the aperture ring. It's not that I absolutely love the focal length, but you can't beat the tiny form factor.
Never realized the Fujifilm 18-55mm vs 27mm was even up for debate. Thats like comparing apples to Beef-stew, no?
Hey Forgotten Cameras. Thanks for great real life evaluation of these lenses.
I’m really looking forward to more Sigma stuff!!! All things Foveon is a forgotten thing that no one really talks about, sadly.
More to come! Hopefully we can get more people talking about it. The peeps at the gallery were pretty floored when I was showing them what it could do; I'd like to see more photographers giving it a shot.
thanks for an interesting video! ....I just got my 18-55mm 2 weeks ago and it has now become my walk around lens on my xt1 and the 27mm is glued to my XE1....and I take them out for different reasons, but lately the 18-55 gets my nod for spontaneous landscapes and I realised that I used it mostly on around 18-23....and around 30-35mm...so the 27 sits perfectly in the middle ...and then I still got the 50mm range covered if needed :)
I have several different Fuji prime lenses. I gave away my 18-55 as the photos didn’t compare.
There was a deal for the xpro1 and a 27mm and 18mm bundle. The 27mm or 41mm lens stayed on it.
Now, 42mm is my favourite focal length. However there isn't many 42mm lens out there. Still because of this my photos are always different
I almost never use the JPEG output, but I'll often use a B&W film sim just so the display is in B&W -- sometimes even when I'm not intending the final result to be B&W, but viewing it that way helps me see the tones, shapes, etc.
That's what I discovered; it really is helpful, like truncating unneeded information from a textbook and being left with the meat in some cases.
@@forgottencameras I've found slightly editing the jpegs to get a bit more punch out of them makes a world of difference. Of course RAW will be better, but I love the abitilty to just wifi images to my phone for a quick preset in LR mobile and be done with it.
Thanks for the comparison. Nice architectural photos. Any reason most of your shots were f5.6? I always go higher to make sure there is detail in the sky but maybe I’m wrong about that. I noticed your photos didn’t seem to have an issue with it.
I have found that, on a crop sensor, f5.6 is fine, as the DOF is similar to f8 in FF. Also, focus is at infinity anyway, since the buildings are far enough away.
I'm going to try it again soon with a longer lens (50-100 f1.8), so I will see if it is any different.
5.6 is also around where peak sharpness is on these lenses and diffraction shows up on a crop sensor sooner; with 5.6, no risk of that.
Great video! Looking forward to many more on Fuji!
I'm foveon sensor fan tried and tested SD1, SD quattro h, and SD 14
Great photos !
good video straight forward talk, you got a new subscriber. keep it up
I‘ll pick xc 15-45
THAT might be a wise choice; 15mm is really wide and the quality of the lens is still pretty good. Hell, that might be a better choice for a 'whatever' lens on a second 16MP camera than the 27mm if you don't need the wide aperture.
@@forgottencameras yep😁
The xc 15-45 is a very good lens. Very sharp results. Great for video also. I use it on my X-H2 and it is terrific.
I'd say, get both lol
Both are pretty cheap now on the second-hand market.
Great shots! Thanks
Great video! I've got both lenses but I use the 27mm 99 times out of 100 compared to the 18-55. I use them both on my x-t1, the 27mm is far my fav lens. Its exceptionally small, pleasantly good and I prefer primes in general.
Great video, can't wait to see more!
Thanks! In hindsight, I am seeing more and more advantages of the 27mm; it is overall much better than the 18-55 IQ-wise; the focal length has just never been for me. Kinda a 'to each their own' thing.
Love the size though, and it makes a great replacement for the old vintage lenses I was using before.
@@forgottencameras yes youre right. I love the 27 2.8 because of its size and versatility
Im my opinion the 18-55 is not a professional grade optic. I put it on the X-T2 and compared it to a real pro lens, the Olympus 12-40 f2.8 PRO on a E-M5 Mark II. The Olympus optic was sharp no matter what right into the corners. Unlike the XF 18-55 :) It was in comparison blurry in particular focal length and picture parts.
Please don’t hate me on that: I don’t own a Olympus anymore! I have Canon and Fuji, I just was disappointed 😔
@@godofhope Appreciate the comment. I have the 16-50, and know it's strengths and weaknesses. Damn sharp at the center, mesa mesa on the sides. Super fast focus on a T-2 with OIS. In fact, i just compared it's center focus with my 16mm 1.4. with some dried roses indoors. You can't tell the difference. Plus, great closeup, more than the 18-55. I have a bunch of Fuji primes, but that little cheap kit has it's uses. Even on the XH-1!
Its micro 4/3's everything is sharper. The 18-55 is a great lens. My olympus e-p1 with 20mm f1.7 is razor sharp. Much sharper than any of my fuji lenses
We need 23mm f2 pancake lens like canon fm line has 22mm. If canon can do it fuji also can
I hav e been wondering why the images from my x-e1 were feeling soft. I have been trying jpeg only.
I only shoot black and white. I wish Fuji would come out with a monochrome sensor.
X trans 1 is the best among 5
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Mark going deep on us again. How about, "What it is"....
@@sclogse1 Oh I was just trying to express my complete agreement and happiness with the opinions presented in the video. I felt my comment would do this for most.
Hey, you ever shoot with window light only and look at the result? It's just want you where going for, you love the mood, the atmosphere. Then someone helpfully explains how if you'd used a reflector or two you would have had a pretty good shot?
All zoom is SH**** , special if is long focus diff. 18-55 is toooo much - maybe 18-25 is good compromis, but bad prime lens is often better that "good" zoom ;-))