How to Build HiFi Speakers for $1000 a pair - The Epic Speaker Build

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  • Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
  • #hifi #howto #epic
    Ready to build a truly Epic HifI speaker? One that can play the entire range of sound and not have to take up your entire listening space? Watch me build the Epic HiFi Speaker Build. This Epic speaker gives you an F3 of around 30hz and extends all the way up to 20hz, without taking much space up at all. Take a look at exactly how to build one of these.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 582

  • @mitchelllogsdon4254
    @mitchelllogsdon4254 Рік тому +39

    I just wanted to add a comment. I finished the speaker build several days ago and they are truly impressive. Great highs and amazing bass. I have CSS TD1s which I think are very good but they are not even in the same category with these speakers. After about 15 hrs. of break in they just get so much better. The best way I can think of to describe them is have you ever listened to a song and the sound is so great you cant help but smile? That's what these to to me on many songs. Great speaker build design.

    • @nate1sam
      @nate1sam Місяць тому

      In what way are they better than the CSS? I assume better bass for sure. Also do you have the 1tdx with the improved tweeter?

    • @drjamesdo
      @drjamesdo 19 днів тому

      That’s awesome. Thinking about building these. Would these be long enough for medium sized room? How is the bass?

  • @tweakerman
    @tweakerman Рік тому +32

    A little trick for you when you're using water borne varnishing, water it down 20% water 80% varnish & then flow it on with a piece of stockinette rag made into a pad, build up 5 coats, then flat back with 1200 paper then build up the finish until you're happy with it, I'm a french polisher with 34 year experience, I'm just being picky, great video man👍

  • @shallowcaster
    @shallowcaster 8 місяців тому +7

    It took a few months to get the final components from Parts Express but it was worth the wait. The speakers enclosures were completed during some time off between Christmas and New Years and the cross overs over a couple of evenings after work. I am very happy with the results. I chose walnut veneer over MDF with solid walnut faces and they are beautiful to look at in addition to sounding great.

  • @greninjagreg6245
    @greninjagreg6245 Рік тому +3

    I really enjoyed the step-by-step videos like these not often you find people willing to do the work themselves these days.

  • @bousharpe
    @bousharpe 2 роки тому +34

    Great build! I will totally be building these as my first DIY set so I bought your plans, but you really should include way more details as a part of the plans for some of us beginners or just general info in the plans:
    -For this build, why did you swap the tweeter polarity?
    -What gauge wire is running between all the speakers and the crossover? What is the minimum you recommend?
    -Are there any pre-built crossovers that would work for this build (to meet the specs needed) on the market? If not, why?
    -I bought the plans, but no pictures of your finished crossover on the build included? Kinda sucks.

    • @wadimek116
      @wadimek116 Рік тому +1

      You often need to swap the tweeter polarity, I honestly haven't done a speaker that doesn't have it expect 3 way. Because of how crossover works its usually necessary to change the phase of one of the driver.

    • @Obsfucation
      @Obsfucation Рік тому +8

      @@wadimek116 It’s necessary because most passive crossovers are 2nd order (to keep it cost effective) but, this gives you a +/- 90 (180) degree phase shift at the crossover point between the two drivers. This would normally give quite a deep notch in the response at crossover if the drivers are wired in phase and is actually a good figure of merit for the crossover and driver response. However, because most designs fail to include a setback for the tweeter to time align it with the woofer you don’t get the maximum notch depth. If it sounds like I’m trying to keep the notch, I am. In others words, I DON’T flip the polarity of one of the drivers with a second order crossover design. I do get a notch but, because the drivers are in phase everywhere else but in the crossover region the response of the system is superior in the time domain, i.e. the impulse response is superior. Listening tests have found this to sound better than the flatter frequency response but, compromised impulse response polarity-flipped design. All too often the only thing that many care about is the frequency response but, there’s more to a crossover and a system design than just the FR.
      P.S. You can avoid this dilemma and compromise by using a 4th order crossover design which gives +/- 180 (360) degrees of phase shift at the crossover. If you also do a tweeter setback or a time delay then you’ve got a design that doesn’t have to trade off frequency response for impulse response. You’ll have much better speaker design.

    • @hamishmcnaught9783
      @hamishmcnaught9783 Рік тому

      hey did you ever get it all working?

    • @davidc.2279
      @davidc.2279 Рік тому +2

      ​@@ObsfucationHey O, do you have YT channel? I'd watch.👍

    • @patrikeriksson6052
      @patrikeriksson6052 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@Obsfucation best explains about crossover I have ever read.

  • @milanbozic8625
    @milanbozic8625 2 роки тому +71

    The title should be "How to build 1000$ speakers, in 500000$ workshop"

    • @C-man553
      @C-man553 8 місяців тому +9

      Less than 500$, you get everything you need make those speakers and many more to follow. Used market, tools are cheap! Circular saw, drill, jig saw, router…optional. Bevels can done hand with a rasp, easily.
      When I was a kid I used all hand tools. Hard work,pumps up your arms… good for ya!
      Get to work you wimpy wimps😊

    • @nee3029
      @nee3029 8 місяців тому

      Why are you watching videos like this if you're too stupid to cut a few boards with a circular saw?
      Anyone who writes comments like this only shows their pure envy and that they are too stupid.

    • @SinnerSince1962
      @SinnerSince1962 7 місяців тому +1

      Yeah. I was out in about 5 minutes.

    • @leonelgarcia7327
      @leonelgarcia7327 7 місяців тому

      😂😂

    • @diverman1023
      @diverman1023 7 місяців тому

      😂😂 cracked me up

  • @AshyLarryTM
    @AshyLarryTM 2 роки тому +33

    Awesome job Nick! I love those speakers! Something to consider. If you put down a sandable primer base and hand sand before you go over it with the high gloss you’ll get a much better finish. Using a automotive spray gun will get you an automotive quality finish.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +11

      I really appreciate that tip! Thank you!

    • @AshyLarryTM
      @AshyLarryTM 2 роки тому +3

      👊🏼

    • @AshyLarryTM
      @AshyLarryTM 2 роки тому +2

      I am an idiot brother. All primer is sandable. I just ran through the comment without thinking. You have to put a primer base down first, then the primer filler bass. That is what’s Sandable to a fine finish. Sorry Nick 👊🏽

    • @ze_german2921
      @ze_german2921 Рік тому +2

      Just use Nason 2k Primer and a spray gun. Walmart sells a nice budget spray gun for $35 made by good year. They are actual better than the Harbor Freight counterpart.

    • @dougg1075
      @dougg1075 8 місяців тому

      A mini spray gun would suffice.

  • @oranje82
    @oranje82 2 роки тому +9

    Awesome job! You should really seal the MDF board before painting it tho, way easier to get a good finish on the paint. easiest way of sealing is 50/50: water/glue

  • @zarboaudioprojects1430
    @zarboaudioprojects1430 2 роки тому +5

    Really good video. Cool backdrop too on the thumbnail pic! I'm glad that you're making another video where you can go into more detail for us folks that really want to see the guts of the build -- I'm really looking forward to that! I can only imagine what this mini-beast of a speaker sounds like cranked up! This was a treat for Labor Day!

  • @Hnkka
    @Hnkka 2 роки тому +4

    I love these videos, these give me many ideas and some motivation to try and build speakers

  • @HerbieSchwartz
    @HerbieSchwartz 2 роки тому +2

    This was very therapeutic to watch. Loved it. Thx.

  • @mski349
    @mski349 6 днів тому +2

    Having fun watching your vids. But, there is no shortage of building videos showing big sound in small packages. What if one wanted to build BIG speakers for big sound? Got any suggestions for that?

  • @philvale5724
    @philvale5724 2 роки тому +2

    Hi, I am new to your channel. Great territorial, I built my own loudspeaker cabinets about 40 years ago, And they are transmission line one 8” inch woofer, 100w @ 8ohms Peerless, and Tweeter, Peerless. I did have a printout of the frequency response but I’ve lost it they sound amazing especially when I play something that has been played from a very very end audio system my speakers seem to come alive. Approximately 5 foot in height 18 inches deep and about a foot wide, They are a copy of something that was designed back in the late 70s . So it might be worthwhile even experiment with a transmission line type cabinet only smaller something similar to what you have just built.
    I am a retired specialist joiner Cabinet maker , There is some special cutters that you can get that allow you to cut something at 45° but with a finger joint in it but you have to be very precise making your panels the right size so when you assemble your cabinet they lock together on the corners.
    Good luck , I enjoy the video, look forward for new one. Phil from the moulin France.

  • @JustInvertedFpv
    @JustInvertedFpv 2 роки тому +3

    if you brush wood glue over all of the mdf surfaces and then sand it back to a smooth surface you can then paint without the mdf sucking up a lot of paint. Those are some nice looking speakers! I'm still using a pair of Shamrock Audio SE-2's I built years ago. I'm sure they are outdated now but they sound so nice and natural. Thanks for the video!

  • @mikeleahy5283
    @mikeleahy5283 2 роки тому +2

    Right tools for the job= nice tight corners and joints . Nice top shelf job 👍

  • @danrussell9357
    @danrussell9357 7 місяців тому +1

    Saw these speakers in the Parts-Express contest and voted for them.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  7 місяців тому

      Thanks Dan! I thought you might like these 😁🤣

  • @SVW1976
    @SVW1976 2 роки тому

    I was skeptical at first. $1000 for speakers you build yourself is a hard pill to swallow but now I get it. Great video! Subscribed

    • @KingOath
      @KingOath 2 роки тому +1

      Store bought speakers will cost nearly 10 times as much as a properly done DIY to have equivalent performance. They might have a better look and feel, depending on how good at finishing work you are lol. But a $5000 pair of speakers at a shop is really just a $500 pair in a pretty package. DIY is really the only option that makes sense, buying any speaker new from a store is just a huge rip-off.

  • @ikepre
    @ikepre Рік тому +10

    How to build $$$$ speakers for only $1000 and $20,000 in tools!!! Love it!!

  • @tybotti
    @tybotti Рік тому +1

    Great design! Solid execution. A reasonably sized speaker with LF extension. No sub needed.

  • @JamesHawkeYouTube
    @JamesHawkeYouTube 2 роки тому +2

    Oversizing the front baffle - great advice there. Nice build. You're making me want to get back to wood working again.

  • @3dmazter
    @3dmazter 2 роки тому +3

    You should look into a flush trim router bit for all the overhanging panel edges.
    Way faster than sanding them flush.
    Also wipe the excess glue with a wet rag to cut down on cleaning after.

  • @Dimrain13
    @Dimrain13 2 роки тому +11

    Would you ever consider making the enclosures or at least cutting them for others? Obviously for a fee +shipping/materials.

    • @KingOath
      @KingOath 2 роки тому +7

      Kitchen guys or cabinet makers can cut it for you mate, just draw it up properly and ask your local bloke to feed it into the CNC. It’s not much work for those guys and the materials are cheaper for them too. They can also do things like laminate the completed cabinets in your choice of finish to save having to paint them

  • @ThresholdZhor
    @ThresholdZhor Рік тому +1

    Looking at the frequency response there is a peak at around 160 hz, that means you can make a half cubic feet bigger enclosure to avoid that coloration in the upper bass and also roll off would move from 43 to 35 hz

  • @carlsitler9071
    @carlsitler9071 2 роки тому +2

    Those totally look epic. I love that wood.

  • @jimthvac100
    @jimthvac100 2 роки тому +35

    I really wished you had discussed something about the distortion of those woofers and the crossover point in your build video.

    • @davidstevens7809
      @davidstevens7809 2 роки тому +5

      yup. I agree

    • @jasoncasto910
      @jasoncasto910 2 роки тому +2

      I was thinking the same thing when I looked at the TSP's of those drivers. Also I wonder what crossover points were used. One other thing to add is the difference in efficiency from tweeter to woofers.

    • @blakebrockhaus347
      @blakebrockhaus347 2 роки тому +4

      The thd is really low on the epique drivers out to 4k. But I'm not sure about imd and stuff like the Doppler effect

    • @buka9330
      @buka9330 2 роки тому +4

      @@blakebrockhaus347 It cant be too good at higher volumes. That's why you should if possible leave the bass to the subwoofer.

    • @sethh8892
      @sethh8892 Рік тому +3

      ​@@buka9330 that's the point of this build though, is to still be able to have that low base without having a full subwoofer. If you're limited to space/ wattage, sometimes you just got to do what you got to do.

  • @D1PP1N
    @D1PP1N 2 роки тому +8

    Thanks for showing the sanding that is required after cnc work. Most people think you take it off the cnc and bam its a totally finished product lol. That cnc4newbie machine looks stout. I wish they were around before I got my machine they are priced a bit more reasonably than the avid. Although I have only good things to say about my avid. no issues in 4 years.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +2

      I completely agree. Thanks for mentioning this. and I'm happy to hear you are so happy with your Avid. I've only heard great things about them.

  • @welderfixer
    @welderfixer 2 роки тому +5

    Nick, that is a great router table. Ball screws and linear guide rails. Very very nice. I'm jealous.
    Those speakers are beautiful. At some point I absolutely have to buy your plans for these and build them.
    All the best to you and yours - Kevin.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +2

      Thanks Kevin. I had to upgrade. This is a CNC4NEWBIE. I'm overall very happy with it. Although, I might need to resurface the waste board 😂

    • @welderfixer
      @welderfixer 2 роки тому +2

      @@Toid Good tools are worth crying over the price. I'm happy for you that you are making good use of your investments. Today, I'm continuing building a pair of all steel "pan and tilt" wall mount brackets for my new Emotiva B1+ side surround speakers for my budget 5.1.2 system.
      Please have a great day!

  • @elcarlissimo
    @elcarlissimo 5 місяців тому +1

    Great vid bud! Relaxing and inspiring at the same time!🙂

  • @timschutte6924
    @timschutte6924 Рік тому +1

    I saw your build of those, "Do I need a subwoofer", build.
    The ones with the amps built in the back.
    I think it was Kirby that you did that with.
    Joint adventure.
    This design is awesome. I currently have two pair of these with the side woofer like Def Tech.
    I'm gonna add an amp for the woofers. The top half is an ATM of another company that I definitely love.

  • @jerichotm2122
    @jerichotm2122 Рік тому +1

    If I'm not mistaken, you putted two subwoofers into the same enclosure... I've noticed that the drivers have 2 coils each, and this structure is specific to a subwoofer. With passive radiator, the bass must be crazy good! 😉 Interesting choice! 👍

  • @fubartotale3389
    @fubartotale3389 2 роки тому +3

    Nice, I'm thinking of building these.
    Not a big fan of butt joints, I go tongue and groove cut with the dadoe head on the table saw.
    Biscuits would work as well, keeps everything from sliding around in gluing.
    Dowel holes punched in with the very nice CNC router you have would work as well.
    I have done the solid wood baffel, painted/laminate sides as well, its a very nice look.
    I would very much like to see a video on building the crossovers, as the electronic part of the deal is my weak point.
    You have the best DIY audio channel out there, hands down.

    • @blakebrockhaus347
      @blakebrockhaus347 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, with a CNC on tap dados make it super easy to assemble. Although I can definitely understand going this route to make it more accessible to the average Joe that wants to build these

  • @ramonbmovies
    @ramonbmovies 2 роки тому +3

    A work of art.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +1

      Thank you!

  • @writenamehere0000
    @writenamehere0000 Рік тому +11

    "how to build... if you have a tons of tools and a place" :) We, living in apartments are screwed.

    • @rogerweiland6384
      @rogerweiland6384 10 місяців тому

      Go outside

    • @writenamehere0000
      @writenamehere0000 10 місяців тому +1

      @@rogerweiland6384 I just came back home from outside.

    • @grizz19769
      @grizz19769 10 місяців тому

      Use hand tools.

    • @rogerweiland6384
      @rogerweiland6384 9 місяців тому +2

      @@363.2McMasters everyone needs 🔊 speakers like this (only bigger). If it's too loud you're too old.

    • @stevenPounder-p4b
      @stevenPounder-p4b 2 місяці тому

      You’ve just identified a need to make a new friend. Everyone needs one of those friends houses where everyone’s project comes to. Another thing that helps is having a job that aids in your hobby. After I retired I got a job working for a mom and pop gymnastics supply company. After hours I was allowed free range to shop equipment and all the “scrap” wood that was often large sections of solid sheets of 3/4 and 1 cedar. It was a shared warehouse that also had structural welding, boat manufacturing and a speed shop fabrication. A lot of hobbies to network under one roof.

  • @Michael-oj5pr
    @Michael-oj5pr 2 роки тому +4

    interesting, would it be possible to change one of the Epique woofers to the 7 inch model? would it be possible bring it to a 3 way speaker?

  • @Toid
    @Toid  2 роки тому +3

    Build plans: toidsdiyaudio.com/product/epic-hifi-speaker-build-plans/
    Technical Explanation: ua-cam.com/video/BGcHDx2qckk/v-deo.html
    Want to know more, all on the Forum: toidsdiyaudio.com/forums/discussion/epic-hifi-speaker-build/

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer 2 роки тому +14

    At some point I really want to try building bookshelves with the 7" Epique woofer and the 1.25" Peerless Corundum tweeter. Not sure if the tweeter can really handle being crossed low enough for that, but it'd be fun to find out.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +7

      A third order with that Tweeter you'd be surprised at how low you can cross it over. I think that would actually be a really good pairing.

    • @datdudeinred
      @datdudeinred Рік тому

      You can try wavecor 30mm Tweeter or if highend price is not a problem best option will be bliesma t34 BE dome which can be crossed lowest I've seen.

    • @thomasschafer7268
      @thomasschafer7268 Рік тому

      @@datdudeinred and highest price!! Question is must it be beryllium??

    • @datdudeinred
      @datdudeinred Рік тому

      @@thomasschafer7268 No. be is not required but larger size domes of other material will beam like crazy if not made from be.
      what is necessary is I think the bigger the xmax & ofc diaphragm size [for a tweeter] the lower you can cross it but I don't understand how bliesma managed to get such low xo aka fs with lowest mms as fs is inversely proportional to fs.

    • @diyenthu2844
      @diyenthu2844 Рік тому

      ​@@Toid Nick any thoughts of designing a larger bookshelf with the 7" epique? Would be very very interested for in such a plan! Maybe a DINAC v2?

  • @dorinp007
    @dorinp007 2 роки тому +8

    These speakers look great, and I learned a lot about the details of building them. Just a question: any particular reason for not placing the tweeter between the woofers, in an MTM config?

    • @mitsuracer87
      @mitsuracer87 Рік тому

      This is probably a 2.5way speaker rather than a 2 way like an MTM would be. MTM would also have vertical lobing issues

    • @dorinp007
      @dorinp007 Рік тому

      @@mitsuracer87 MTM exists exactly because it has minimal vertical lobing. Its problems are in horizontal plane. Anyway, I read in the meantime and found out why MTM is falling out of favour. Short answer: more complex, more expensive, harder to design properly.

  • @jamesbarrick3403
    @jamesbarrick3403 2 роки тому +1

    I'm certain that this build would measure (sonically) much better with the tweeter in the center.

  • @jordanhart9708
    @jordanhart9708 2 роки тому +4

    I'd love to see this with the 7" versions and perhaps an AMT rather than a soft dome

  • @JukeboxAlley
    @JukeboxAlley 2 роки тому +1

    Really well done and good choice of drivers

  • @blakebrockhaus347
    @blakebrockhaus347 2 роки тому +2

    Looks awesome! And I agree, I like a good full range bookshelf speaker

    • @bbfoto7248
      @bbfoto7248 2 роки тому

      I agree that they look great. But I don't know if I'd consider these a "Bookshelf" speaker. They are quite large. Moreso a "standmount" speaker.

  • @johnvanvliet2076
    @johnvanvliet2076 7 місяців тому +1

    Really cool this video, I used to do this kind of work by hand, Yea I am 81 and in the 50's and 60's we did not have this sort of equipment, nevertheless nice work and excellent video...........

  • @projector7141
    @projector7141 9 місяців тому

    Really nice build. If you leave extra material for routing or sanding, make sure you center the front baffle with shims or something! Also let the glue set for a good long time. I left a vintage sewing machine base for a week. It was walnut veneer on birch or something. I might leave the walnut unfinished, it has natural oils in it. Tung oil darkens it so much.

  • @donniecatalano
    @donniecatalano 11 місяців тому

    Hi Fi was a big thing when I was young, so in the mid 70's and onwards so many people were into it. Unfortunately the Mp3 industry killed a lot of things, including the passion for good listening.

  • @Edward135i
    @Edward135i 2 роки тому +24

    Nick, I'd love to see a tower version of this, with maybe 3 or even 4 of these driver's.

    • @maisonsavvy
      @maisonsavvy 2 роки тому +5

      A powered Tower version with DSP would be even nicer to see🔊

    • @Raller8869
      @Raller8869 2 роки тому +9

      @@maisonsavvy yes that would be very nice ;) i'm actually building that right now. Two of the big brother woofers E180HE (7") and a nice scanspeak tweeter. Powered by Hypex nCore Fusion Amp. Yesterday was my first listen to that setup, and boy that configuration has so much potential!

    • @maisonsavvy
      @maisonsavvy 2 роки тому +2

      @@Raller8869 Sounds like it's going to be a killer setup. Good luck and have fun!

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 роки тому

      why didn't you go mtm mounted off centre mounted on the side. what's the model number of those drivers? what order crossover do you use? looks nice not cheap that wood

    • @Durkhead
      @Durkhead 2 роки тому

      I thought the sides were gona be subwoofers

  • @antoniiocaluso1071
    @antoniiocaluso1071 2 місяці тому +1

    beautifully-made video!!

  • @FredrikRambris
    @FredrikRambris 2 роки тому +2

    These would be great for a small home theater front speakers. I wonder what recommendations you have to complete these with a center and surround speakers.

  • @sppeppek2725
    @sppeppek2725 9 місяців тому

    1. Man Sieht Er ist kein Profi , trotzdem gut gemacht . 2. Ordnung und Sauberkeit am Arbeitsplatz ist das A& O .

  • @JS-hu7pv
    @JS-hu7pv 2 роки тому

    That walnut is gorgeous- good choice

  • @mrboat580
    @mrboat580 Рік тому +1

    Excellent. Thank you for doing these projects. Every time I pick up one of my DIY speakers it is very apparent the quality feel compared to what I have invested. Even something as budget as Paul Carmody's Classix2, feel, sound and look high end.
    I think my pinnacle high-end speaker would be a freak 15" monkey coffin 3-way, somewhere in the 89-93 db sensitivity range. It would be for those times where you just get tired of puny drivers and want something that absolutely hammers.

  • @genestarwind4610
    @genestarwind4610 2 роки тому +2

    These are cool and all. And your test are great.
    Would love to she you send in some of your speakers for 3 party evaluation.

    • @scotth6814
      @scotth6814 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah I would love to see Erin test some of these DIY speakers out.

  • @realtherrien2541
    @realtherrien2541 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome speaker build the walnut looks great thank you

  • @8bitbunny_VR
    @8bitbunny_VR 2 роки тому +1

    The Dinas evolved is quite Epic of a speaker.

  • @patb5266
    @patb5266 Рік тому

    These speakers look impressive! Thanks.

  • @michael-4k4000
    @michael-4k4000 2 роки тому +1

    Loved this video . Want these speakers

  • @AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke
    @AudioTekAdventures-ph9ke 8 місяців тому +2

    Nice! Good looking and well done:)

    • @Toid
      @Toid  8 місяців тому +1

      Thanks!

  • @gavinm717gkm
    @gavinm717gkm 2 роки тому +1

    This has lit a fire under my ass to get moving on my 7” Epique build. Super stoked to see how low you were able to tune them!

  • @jeffparry2426
    @jeffparry2426 2 роки тому +2

    New Yanky work shop of speaker builds. Love it

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +1

      That's a huge compliment. Thank you!

  • @goodgoat3096
    @goodgoat3096 2 роки тому +4

    The walnut is just beautiful, the best. I've been considering using oak stair treads which are a full 1" thick and would allow large radii to be used to minimize diffraction. I assume that the tweeter could be crossed low enough to deal with the cone breakup of the Epique mid woofers. These must be kick butt party speakers. Great project.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +1

      The tweeters can, of course some of that has to do with the fact that the woofers themselves don't have bad cone break up until very high in the frequency range. Believe it or not the Tweeter actually determined the crossover more than the woofers on this build. Which I'll go into more detail next week when I do more of a technical breakdown. Here's a great technical review on the woofer if you're interested. audioxpress.com/article/test-bench-the-e150he-44-5-5-full-range-subwoofer-from-the-dayton-audio-epique-line

    • @bbfoto7248
      @bbfoto7248 2 роки тому +1

      @Good Goat
      You can get Walnut stair treads as well if you look hard enough. ;)

    • @goodgoat3096
      @goodgoat3096 2 роки тому +1

      @@bbfoto7248 - Thanks, I live in the Chicago burbs and there is a store, Owl Hardwoods, and they would be a good starting point.

    • @mitsuracer87
      @mitsuracer87 Рік тому

      Can also just glue multiple sheets together to get the Thickness you want. I have 1.5" thick baffles made of two 3/4" pieces which are easier to find.

  • @leo11877
    @leo11877 2 роки тому +2

    Can you maybe do a build with 3 way with 2 compression drivers, 2 8" woofers? Like a Klipsch legend look alike but with better response.

  • @MisticDW
    @MisticDW Рік тому

    A dual 7 inch version with a 3 inch dome mid range would be my perfect speaker right now

  • @thecanadianace
    @thecanadianace 2 роки тому +2

    id love to see the measurements of this speaker on and off axis

  • @canepaper967
    @canepaper967 2 роки тому +3

    That's insane, I'm sure these out-perform speakers you can buy at $1000, especially in the bass department.

    • @gregquinn9429
      @gregquinn9429 Рік тому +1

      Uh, The parts are over $1000 so they had better!

  • @Stan_the_Belgian
    @Stan_the_Belgian 2 роки тому +7

    i'm not a huge fan of the white, looks too much like an Ikea table, but very nice design and some very handy tips to build your own speakers. You also really love passive radiators :--)

  • @lsdave
    @lsdave 2 роки тому +5

    Have you ever thought of doing a speaker like this as an active speaker using MiniDSP's plate amp?

    • @rikardekvall3433
      @rikardekvall3433 2 роки тому +1

      Yes! One on each speaker. Tweeter on one channel and woofer on the other channel. DSP it all so there would not be need for a crossover. Great possibilities for the optimal sound.

    • @andrewl706
      @andrewl706 2 роки тому +2

      I have wanted to build a MTM with the Epiques’s and the Dayton KABD 4100 amp.

    • @lsdave
      @lsdave 2 роки тому +3

      @@andrewl706 The problem with that Dayton Amp board, is i wouldn't consider that a real HiFi option. The ICE Power class D in the MiniDSP amp board was developed by Bang & Olufsen and has been used by many audiophile companies that wanted to get into the class D realm.

  • @paulinboston
    @paulinboston 2 роки тому +1

    Great video. Nice to watch someone with talent. Have you considered GR Audio binding posts. They would save a lot of work. Why don't you solder the connecters. Why don't you use a little thicker wire.

  • @amanteapasionado6836
    @amanteapasionado6836 Рік тому +1

    Why didn't you demo them? I wanna hear what they can do

  • @glengatt3941
    @glengatt3941 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice 30hz that's deep for such small drivers

  • @lucasphelps7868
    @lucasphelps7868 Рік тому

    those 5.5 woofers look beastly

  • @jimtincher7357
    @jimtincher7357 6 місяців тому

    I would use dado's for the internal bracing... much easier to assemble. For cleaning up the edges a spiral flush trim router bit will be significantly quicker.

  • @goodwinml
    @goodwinml 2 роки тому +3

    LaScala build please

  • @frme1
    @frme1 2 роки тому +1

    I like the clean design, also the new style to bring the speaker into the right light. I guess there is a space in the url for the midrange speakers. I already build the Dina’s from you. Can try to compare the epic’s to the Dinas? Thanks

  • @rezo786
    @rezo786 4 місяці тому

    Did you ever get to use the full 200RMS x2 of the Woofers ?
    What kinda wood seal did you use?
    The sensitivity of these woofers are pretty low
    Please can you elaborate a little more on your crossover design? 😊 your Freq response looks very good.

  • @katraonline1204
    @katraonline1204 Рік тому +8

    Great build!! A sound demo would have been epic!! Please make one!!

  • @huey8431
    @huey8431 Рік тому

    Holy moly! You are a true craftsman. Beautiful speaker build.
    Have you been challenged to design speakers/subwoofers to provide 140db with a built in amp? I have an active dual 18” sub and was curious if you would take on the challenge?
    Of course I would pay you

  • @clavierdelicover
    @clavierdelicover 4 місяці тому

    Good work ! But... How did you adjust the passive radiators? And also, is the box empty? No wool or anything else inside??? Nor any information on the characteristics of the crossover... Are they written on the plans?

  • @Jensenmannwurst
    @Jensenmannwurst 2 роки тому +1

    At higher volumes, 2-way speakers have the problem that the upper frequencies of the woofer move with the bass frequencies of the high membrane excursion, which can lead to audible distortions.

    • @KingOath
      @KingOath 2 роки тому

      Every different style of speaker has inherent problems. There is no perfect speaker. When designing speakers, you choose which problems you can get away with for your application and which ones you can’t.

  • @Im-over-9000
    @Im-over-9000 Рік тому +1

    Those are pretty badass 😎👌👌

  • @JeffAdairKTM530
    @JeffAdairKTM530 Рік тому

    Great build and project brother

  • @rezakhyabani725
    @rezakhyabani725 11 місяців тому +1

    Hi, First of all thank you for a good video session. I have a living room which is roughly 23 feet x 25 feet with vaulted ceiling. I would love to built three or four way floor standing speakers. the cost is not that much of an issue but quality of sound reproduction is extremely important. I listen to philharmonic orchestra, classical and sometimes classical soft rock music. My problem is I do not have a CNC cutting machine but I can do assembling, wiring or painting. I need an absolutely hi end design that I can buy all components or schematics with all relevant information. I listen to tube amplifiers.Can you please recommend me any kit or a design. My apm delivers 30W. Thank you.

  • @juststuff5216
    @juststuff5216 2 роки тому +2

    Sound Demo!

  • @firecloud77
    @firecloud77 2 роки тому +2

    Can I built these in a MTM configuration, instead of TMM?

    • @blakebrockhaus347
      @blakebrockhaus347 2 роки тому +1

      You can, but the crossover will need to be slightly adjusted to compensate

  • @jimthvac100
    @jimthvac100 Рік тому +1

    The only thing I don't like about these extended range subwoofers is the very low average efficiency of 79 to 80 db (from graph) (Probably a result of the heavy rubber surrounds.) Because they are being used for midrange too I feel they would have a harder time reproducing details that would not be a problem with higher efficiency drivers. I could go down to 88db/watt for an 8" woofer, maybe 86db for a 6.5" woofer. But I don't care for using woofer drivers smaller than that as the efficiency just goes way down. Also a very good alternative tweeter to use other than that expensive $200 CSS would be the Dayton Audio RST28A-4 ($41.98 as of December 2022) I know it is 4 Ohms but the crossover can be redesigned to make it work.

    • @davidrendek2399
      @davidrendek2399 Рік тому

      Exactly as you say. In this type of speaker with two passive diaphragms, it will not be good at all in terms of medium frequencies. This type of enclosure is quite unsuitable for frequencies above 200Hz. Low frequencies will be modulated to the mid-frequency band and the sound will be rather hard to understand and slurred. Maybe so good for DUB and Techno fans 😀. I would like to hear the result with my own ears. Too bad I can't :-/

  • @gjnbouwmeester5860
    @gjnbouwmeester5860 Рік тому

    "High highs & low lows"... but, what about the delicate sweet and transparent midrange where the music and emotions are made?? Or is it just a sissling boombox?

  • @Sir_NgwaneSM
    @Sir_NgwaneSM Рік тому

    I will love to try and build this.

  • @Rocker6969
    @Rocker6969 2 роки тому +2

    How about that $300 set that we talked about on Facebook :)

  • @roccobruno8027
    @roccobruno8027 2 роки тому +2

    I would be interested to hear the same speaker with an AMT or Ribbon tweeter. Other than that, it definitely looks the part.

    • @KingOath
      @KingOath 2 роки тому

      It would be more detailed and effortless in the top end, but with a poor room response, and a small listening sweet spot. That’s pretty much the gist :)

  • @mitsuracer87
    @mitsuracer87 Рік тому

    Oversized baffles also let's you veneer the speakers and then flush trim the baffle to the perfect width.

  • @donaldgregg9250
    @donaldgregg9250 Рік тому

    My Marantz Model 900's would probably win. About $350.00 pair in 1980, equate to about $1600.00 pair in today's price. Best 3 way crossovers, mid and high attenuators, real walnut veneer, heavy cabinets for robust sound. Never heard any speakers sound as good as that era of Marantz.

  • @hagengocht3891
    @hagengocht3891 2 роки тому +1

    Remember back in the ole days you were working mdf with nothing on your face. Your lungs thank u!

  • @lint8391
    @lint8391 Рік тому +1

    Interesting that you're getting an f3 of 30hz from 5.5" woofers and 8" passive radiators, whilst I'm getting an (anechoic) f3 of 50hz from my $1800 per pair DIY speakers with (pre-owned) 18" woofers.
    Sometimes frequency response technical specs don't tell the whole story...

  • @stevencorbo1220
    @stevencorbo1220 Рік тому

    I would love to see you upgrade a pair of Dayton audio speakers that you normally buy for $100 and make them into an epic build

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Рік тому

      That’s a cool idea

  • @dBtje1980
    @dBtje1980 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m building a brother version of this speaker using the E180HE.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  9 місяців тому +1

      That will be awesome!

  • @rhinoskin7550
    @rhinoskin7550 11 місяців тому +1

    Dooood.. You should sell flatpack kits.. cutting that by hand aint easy haha

  • @kylewells2942
    @kylewells2942 Рік тому

    What did you use for speaker foam/filler? What is the best material to use, generally speaking?

  • @samt1039
    @samt1039 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have a seperate link for a sound demo? Thanks

  • @DIYAudioGuy
    @DIYAudioGuy 2 роки тому +1

    Epic!

  • @mitchelllogsdon4254
    @mitchelllogsdon4254 Рік тому +1

    I bought your plans and I am putting the speakers together and I am second guessing my self. Should I use better crossover components? How would air core inductors and Jantzen Superior caps make a difference in the sound? Thanks I appreciate the videos you make.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Рік тому

      You’re welcome to use what you deem to be higher quality components as long as they are within specs of the original.

    • @mitchelllogsdon4254
      @mitchelllogsdon4254 Рік тому +1

      @@Toid I finished my Epic speakers. They remind me a lot of my CSS 1 TD but of course more base. I had to substitute a couple items on the crossover because a few items were on back order for a few months. I wish you would put a picture of the actual crossover on plans. I followed the diagram but just trying to lay it out my friend said saying my crossover was the ugliest ever was an understatement. My soldering was even worse. This is only my second speaker set to put together so I will get there. Thanks for the inspiration.

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Рік тому

      @@mitchelllogsdon4254 I’m so glad to hear that you enjoy them. I appreciate the constructive criticism and will definitely take that to heart.

  • @TheMetal788
    @TheMetal788 2 роки тому +3

    Just purchased the plans and looking forward to building these beasts. It's my understanding(based my limited knowledge) that the density of baffles matters which is why mdf is used a lot in speaker design, will the type of wood used for the front baffle greatly affect the quality of sound? If so, is there a range of density(or species) that you would recommend? Thanks

    • @Toid
      @Toid  2 роки тому +1

      As long as you use a hard wood, you should be fine. A soft wood, like Pine will most likely resonate.

    • @TheMetal788
      @TheMetal788 2 роки тому

      @@Toid thanks a bunch

    • @Toid
      @Toid  Рік тому

      @@mdocod there’s a follow up video which talks more about the technical details if you’re interested. It also talks about the confusion between TMM and MTM with smaller woofers, as well as 2 1/2 way verses to weigh in this size.

  • @denisdube8893
    @denisdube8893 4 місяці тому

    Nice job