Winter camping /When things go wrong /KNOW when to QUIT
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
- Went out for a weekend of camping in a snow storm with my friend Joe, and the adventure did not go according to plan.
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No shame in calling it when things go wrong. You’re out there to have fun. Many of my adventures have turned into misadventures along the way and that’s life. Good decision Justin and another good video.
Yes sir! Exactly. No shame at all. It actually makes me quite proud. I knew when to call it, I called it, and wasn't even disappointed about it. There will be more adventure! Thank you for watching my friend
It's not "Good In The Woods" , when it becomes a sufferfest! Excellent decision! You want to remember the good times, that's why we all love to go back and do it again. Worst decision is to try and power through ,then never try it again because of the bad experience!
Sometimes it is worth the suffering. There was no point to it this time around. An easy call to make.
@@ItsGoodintheWoods A little suffering is usually a part of any journey, however a sufferfest is something that makes the journey so unbearable you probably won't try it again. Best to bail in those circumstances.
The fur looked like deer. Good decision to know when to call it time to leave. Food looked delicious.
I am a little boggled at the moment that deer never crossed my mind
My objective in life is to enjoy life. Not to entertain others. You made the right call.
Thank you
This is the best video you have made... talking so much sense. I had my megahorn and stove set up in southern NH the same night, with the blizzard. Like you, I pulled the plug.
Thank you! Sometimes pulling the plug is the best decision one can make. Much better than making a last decision
I’m just viewing this particular video, and I definitely know what it means sleeping through a difficult night.
Had to leave a day earlier, but no regrets.
I’m glad you were smart enough and brave enough to know when to pack it in.
You have a number of folks just starting out who subscribe to your channel who needed to hear that.
Thanks for common sense shot out. 👍🏾
I agree. That is exactly why I put this out there. It is a valuable skill set to have. And it happens. No shame in calling it. Best to play it safe. Thanks for the awesome comment!
Things don't always go right and a good decision to call it to do the right thing by everyone. Nice to see you keeping it real. Awesome video. ❤👍
Thank you. It definitely happens
I can tell the cabbage soup is awesome by the look on your face when you take a bite.
Hahahahaha! So good dude!
Second comment as it seems you were the most experienced in this outing, I really appreciate that you looked out for someone else first!! I think responsibility comes with experience and you did well! Congrats!!
Much appreciated! Thank you.
Yes siree that was a cold night. Sure am glad to experience it non the less. Sure does bring mother nature into perspective in those conditions. Thanks for being awesome dude!!!! Until next time my friend....
Next time is going to be soon....redemption duck LOL
Awesome !! No shame in pulling the pin. Good to go another day !!
None at all! It's a good thing to be capable of
Nicole and I have been binge watching... great experience and learning experience here, so true about the pad not functioning. It will ruin everything.
Hey Tim! Yep, a pad failure can take the fun right out of it. Gotta put a lot of faith in those pads......Thanks for stopping by Tim. I hope you and Nicole are doing well
No Idea why your Video was recommend to me, but dam I like it. Also beeing able to call it quits and return another day is in my opinion the single most important skill im any outdoor activity. So good on you for having the mental fortitude to actually do it.
Thank you for clinking the recommended video! Much appreciated. Our opinions on the subject align. I agree 100%
Dude, you're great at this channel, editing, talking to the audience thing. I know you well enough to know you probably still doubt that at times. So, just wanted to give you positive feedback from a happy viewer on all your videos..and as a guy that still wishes he had the gear and weekend time to make a trip with you. Cheers buddy!
Much appreciated man! Thank you
I have enough gear to outfit you if you ever want to go on a trip. Get at me.
Enjoyed the video man, this is Hot tenting and things can change rapidly. Your dehydrated food looks good
That cabbage soup was so good.
i agree with you. safe first because camping it's for fun, enjoy a nature .
For sure. Thank you
Good words about when to quit
I am an Mountain and wilderness educauted with selfsurvaillance
Also with special education from military in sweden
As you said, moore days to come
Spread the words
Keep on
I really appreciate the story and explanation. You dont hear this kind of stuff a lot, i feel like hearing it will help me make that call if that time ever comes
This is exactly why I made this video the way I did. To let people know it happens and it is ok to bail. Thank you for your comment.
Keep rambling I enjoy the insight and we can all learn from each others ... for a lack of a better term .....mishaps. Be well.
Thank you
I went out for my first hike and cold camp, probably the day before you did this trip. It was 25F and I got to my spot soaked from sweat and late. The temp dropped drastically, my camera died and all filming went out the window and survival mode kicked. It was a rough night but I made it. A hot Nalgene bottle was a real life saver. When equipment fails, bail out. He would have been miserable. If it’s not fun, it ain’t worth it. Good video
That nalgene bottle trick has gotten me through many cold nights. When I first really started getting into winter camping, I was using a cheap Field and Stream 20ºF sleeping bag. ( I still have it) I used it many times in well below zero weather in the mountains. The Nalgene bottle made it possible. I would use 2 of them, every time. I don't do it much anymore because my system is much improved. But on those real cold nights, I'll still do it just to make sure I don't get cold. Or if I have a hat, gloves, socks, a sweaty shirt that needs to be dried..(LOL)..I put them in my sleeping bag with the nalgene bottle. Works wonders.
Sounds like you had a very interesting night out. You live close to Aziscohos right?
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I’m sort of near it. North and east of the Lake in Eustis, north of Sugarloaf Ski mountain. That’s where I camped, across the road off the AT in the Bigelow Preserve. Aziscohos is west and a believe a bit north of Rangeley which is part of my riding zone. Rangeley Lake and the state park is where I hot tent on my sled and make videos no one watches 🙁
Good call and thanks for the explanation. I was thinking how does someone get cold in a hot tent while the other guy doesn’t in a normal tent. Glad it all worked out for you. Love the channel!!!
In the long run it all worked out. Even if he had the stove running, he would have been up every hour feeding it. I'm sure it would have led to the same result. Leaving the next day
Too many people don't know when to call a halt to their trip. For whatever the reason, they don't want to be called "quitters" but honestly, one of the most under recognized leadership traits is knowing when you need to adjust your plans and go with something different. You're an excellent situation of what to do in a situation like this. This is what allows you to continue enjoying the outdoors while staying safe. Great job! Take care and until next time...be well.
I absolutely agree. And the situation is compounded on youtube because people don't like to show what they consider a failed attempt. Thank you for watching and commenting
Always better to be safe than sorry. Especially in those elements.
Just remember the #1 rule when I get up there 😁😁
Number one rule “ Don’t forget the Tequila “ 😂
Bahahahahahahahaha!!! I haven't gotten you killed yet.......
@@ItsGoodintheWoods 😂🤣
@@MeetMeOutside 😂🤣
At the 2:15 mark, there is a definite tree knock. Listen. And the deer remnants you found where from a Sasquatch,no doubt .
....for some reason I never considered it to be a deer. That was dumb. I'm going to catch some heat for that lol
@@ItsGoodintheWoods All good, you also made a great decision to bail. Another day, another adventure, Cheers
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I was gonna comment. 😉
@@ItsGoodintheWoods No heroes needed !
@@MeetMeOutside Dude, no such thing
Nice! Perfect timing with my afternoon coffee! 👍
Enjoy!
@@ItsGoodintheWoods great video, I agree with safety first for sure! No shame in that. Plus we are all out there for fun and when it stops being fun, it doesn’t make sense to stay. What you guys managed to capture looked great anyways! 💪 thanks for sharing what happened! I enjoyed seeing the adventure. 🍻
Fantastic video man, no shame in calling it when it’s needed.🙌🏻🙌🏻🎒🎒🥾🥾 Stay safe.
Thank you
My respect for you Justin. Good videos.
Take care. 👍👍👍
Thank you
Excellent brain work calling this practice Bomb Cyclone camping trip.
Last night at my place in Wyoming it was 20 below. Tonight it is only 1 above but winds of 30 to 50. Things change fast.
It is wise to listen to the signs.
When someone like you doesn't want to cook the duck, it is time to call it.
Thank God for ducks;-)
I'm thinking I need an old fashioned canvas double walled tent with a stove.
LOL...I didn't want to cook the duck hahahaha. I would like a heavy canvas tent as well. A completely different beast from the lightweight tents I am used to. Options are good. I have a canvas pup tent....not much room in those though
You were at 69 likes, then I ruined it. Genuine and real. That's one of the many reasons I like you, pal. You're a great teacher, and role model for outdoors folks!
hahahahaha! Many thanks my man!
Wicked smaht move fellas! Great video. Awesome editing! Poor Joe 😳 that must’ve been the longest night he’s had in awhile.
Wicked smaht bub!
Yeah man, he had a long cold night.
Nature IS brutal. Since when has your food not been a hit I can tell that just by knowing you on your videos Justin. Super cool you looked after your mate firstly. Hope we get to see you two out at it again. Yay Joe.
There will be plenty more adventures with Joe! I am already looking forward to round 2
Loved the video Justin. Laughed right away when your tent was trying to send you a message about how your trip was going to go. It was good to see how you were making sure Joe was ok and decided to call it quits. I think others need to watch this video as your message of calling quits is ok to do. In those conditions you always have to watch out for hypothermia and trust me it is not fun. Thank you Justin and keep following your nose.
The tent....hahahahahaha! I watched that snow slide off the tent and make that shape. I wish so badly the camera was on. I missed it by seconds. That would have been an awesome once in a lifetime shot.
I put this video out there the way I did because I believe it to be an extremely overlooked topic. An important one. Not many youtubers are wiling to show trip failure. And that is fact. With all the tubers out there, all the glorious wonderfully filmed peaches and cream camping trips out there, there is a very disproportionate amount of camping gone wrong videos to compliment them. And we all know it happens. Just not on video.... wink wink. How odd. This channel is almost 3 years old, this is the 4th trip I have filmed that did not go according to plan. It is very important for people to know it happens, it's ok to bail.
Thank you for checking out this video and commenting. I am glad you enjoyed it. Much appreciated
Always disappointing when things don't go as planned. But this is what it's all about. Knowing your limits and being honest with yourself and thise around you. Too many tough guys out there that push themselves trying to bend Mother Nature to their will, but sometines she pushes back harder. New to the channel and enjoy your work. Thanks Justin
I agree! 100%
Thank you for supporting the channel John. I appreciate it
Dear BROTHER Justin. You are a Awesome Human being, I would be honored to have a Freind as you, I love your honesty and Humble ways, I thought your Spegety was a Home Run, and your Cabbage Soup was to Die for. Justin what type of container do you use to hold the liquids in your Dehydrator, I haven't recherched. Dehydrating liquids yet, Is it the Same as if you had a Freeze drier, Again I have the Highest Respect 🙏 for you and Joe. Thank you Brother Justin and Joe for Sharing your review and Experience. Sincerely your freind from Mo Rick and God Bless you and your family and God Bless America 🇺🇸 🙏 and God Bless all of the Great Veterans and First Responders 🙏 🇺🇸
That cabbage soup was delicious! I just use flat dehydrator sheets that you put on the trays. I have to make whatever I am dehydrating thick so it doesn't run off the tray. So this soup was actually thick like a stew when I put it on the trays. Thank you for another awesome comment Ricky
Good job looking out for your friend. Very smart of you. Now, not hooking up a stove when you have one at disposal and realizing you are camping in mountains in midwinter and knew what weather was forecast- not so much.... You are a camping, hot tent professional and instructor m, you know better. But thank you for honesty and reasons given. I know you would have been devastated if so.ething grave had happened to your friend, even though it was HIS equipment that failed. Again, let's be reminded of those idiots who have all of the channels out there on how "not" to survive that kind of weather. They would not have done what you did and tried to tough it out and then paid dearly for it. I have a ton of respect for you and your judgment.
Thank you David. Joe and I have endured worse conditions with less gear, no stove, at higher elevation. I stand by my decision of not setting it up, and the reasoning behind it is sound.....however, had I known about his situation I would have gladly done so, even so he would have been in for a long night of feeding the stove. Either way, we would have made the same call I am sure of it. He would have been tired from a long night either way, the results would have been the same, it would have been pointless to tough out another long night.
It is important to note that he is an experienced winter camper. He knows the signs, and assured me that at no point did he believe it to be a dangerous situation..just uncomfortable....he will not bother me because he is uncomfortable. That is not enough. If he had the uncontrollable shivers, he would have woke me. I know him well (36 years) I know his skill set and capabilities, I trust and believe him. Like I said, I have seen him do more with less. We were well within the range of what we have done before. So in terms of me knowing better, I respectfully disagree. But it didn't work out so well for him this time. Sometimes, when you push yourselves, things don't work out. We were in a good situation to do what we did. It was fun. I'm sure he will adjust accordingly.
There are a few different directions I could have gone with this video. I could have just not put it out at all. However, I wanted to use this as an example to others, things go wrong, don't be a hero. It happens. It's real.
I think it good to put that message out there. Too many people are watching too many videos of people camping within a short walking distance of their truck......claiming to be deep in the wilderness making glamorous camping videos making it all look like peaches and cream. That is not real. Sometimes when you do stuff things happen. No smoking mirrors here. We were close to our truck, I wont claim otherwise, I was in good company, we were pushing ourselves, the conditions were right, and it didn't work out in our favor. Mother nature handed it to us. If you are doing things, eventually It happens. I have been through it more than once. That is how we learn. It's ok. Always best to play it safe.
I thank you for your support of the channel David.
just a suggestion for the future, and even tho it was winter setting up a tarp even in a half shell makes baring the elements easy. Tents are tents but and out side longing area where you can set and contemplate or get stupide falling down drunk is ideal
Tarps are good!
Definitely safety first. Those temps are insane. I can’t even walk from my house to the car without being miserable from the cold! Going to have to try that cabbage soup! Roasted duck over the fire would have been amazing, but there are always more trips! Good call!
The cabbage soup was very good! I was blown away by how good it was. I need my duck redemption .....
Beautiful video as always. The soup looked so bomb!! You are an amazing friend to consider Joe and deciding as a group how to modify the trip. Ive been on both sides of the coin and it is important to have fun but know when to reassess and move on.
That soup was incredible. I'll be doing that again. Really looking forward to hearing how you like it.
A long cold night is no fun. No point in it. Like you said, reassess and move on. Better luck next time!
Thanks for the post .
Thank you
A dehydrated soup vid in the future? Sure looks much better than Lipton!!! Awesome Vid
That stuff was so good! Way better than Lipton lol. The next time I make it I will record the process and make a video.
Beer and pizza is always the right choice
Your comment is quite possibly the best comment ever!!!!
Another good video. No worries about the lack of footage. The narrative afterwards made sense. It's good to know when to call it. Type 3 fun is not always necessary when it can be avoided. I did an overnight in Woodstock on 1/22 - 1/23. Got down to -3. It was beautiful that night My core was nice and warm and I had to shed some layers during the night, but I either should have called it quits or done something different as my fingertips and toes got very cold
Can always go back another time. Your pictures looked pretty sweet. Did you do the hot water in the Nalgene trick? Works wonders. I have taken to sleeping with down booties! A luxurey item I swear by
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I did the nalgene trick and was amazed at how long it stayed warm. I think part of my cold feet issue was that I had the foot end of the hammock too high. I'm looking into some booties for sleeping.
I can totally relate to everything that happened and was said afterward. It can be really tough out the sometimes! We're camping for the fun of it, so when it isn't fun sometimes it's best to pull the plug and go warm up, eat pizza and enjoy life in another way. There's never a reason to push it when not in a survival situation. Nice job guys. 💯 keep on keeping it real bud!
There really wasn't a point to it at that point.
You know how to do the right thing!
Thank you
No sense in pushing it when you don’t have to. Ed Viesturs, the famous mountaineer, has turned back from the summit of Everest and other peaks, sometimes a few hundred yards from the summit, because of conditions not looking right. And that’s after months of prep, and thousands of dollars. Rather than push ahead and get into a dangerous situation because of all the prep, he’ll turn back to fight the good fight another time.
Great video, and a great post trip explanation. Have a great weekend, and I can’t wait for another one.
Ed is the man! I have read all his books. That dude is as close to a machine as a natural human can get. his stories of turning around have stuck with me. It is nice to hear others mention his name
Good call fellas. Losing your ground insulation is pretty major. You East coasters can share some of that snow lol. Been like springtime since Christmas here.
Dude! I have been meaning to stop by your channel for months now.
@@ItsGoodintheWoods no worries bro I have had nothing cooking. Probably won't be doing much adventuring until early summer. Good trip man too bad about the duck. I totally understand.
Yeah it sucks to call it sometimes man but when time with your buddies is the main goal spending it miserable is just not necessary. I drove 3 hours to Moosilauke one time and made it 1/4 up trail. Got tremendously ill so I stopped. Drank some water, took a breather, and tried again. Second time same thing. I thought this is GD embarrassing but turned back. Was talking to the doc about it and she said..."didn't you just get back from Yellowstone and isn't it like 11k feet in some areas?" Bam my intro to altitude sickness lol. Said I would have likely passed out and could have fallen if I continued. Stay safe, explore another day.
That is odd dude. Glad everything turned out ok
@@ItsGoodintheWoods yeah was pretty weird. But was some times ago. Hasn't happened again since lol. Def not a proud moment lol
For a crazy guy you're pretty smart brother. Good call thinking of the group and not just yourself
Thanks man! Did you see that sweet backpack and bear bag!!! LOL
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I might have noticed lol. Attempting to be humble
It is ok to bail. Safety is #1.
100%
Awesome video. Loved the explanation and great advice at the tail end. That’s good stuff to know. Still wanna see the duck in the future. 👍
Thank you. There will be a duck in the future! The redemption duck lol
Well done Justin, sorry that happened to Joe. That being said, your margin for error decreases dramatically at those temps. You guys absolutely did the right thing....At some point it becomes such that you don't ever think you will be warm again....and that's NOT a good feeling.
It down right sucks when you get to that point. I have been there. No fun
No shame in calling it when something goes wrong. I think we have all been there !!! I have had various pads that have failed over the years. Looking forward to seeing that duck in another adventure.
Yep, if you play outside in these conditions with any frequency, it is just a matter of time. There will be duck...... lol
Definitely a wise choice. I've had several excursions where things just didn't feel right, I was pushing my luck or was purely in pain and had to call it. As a veteran I remember all to clearly being miserable in the field and had to get through it, now I don't have to lol. Love the dehydrated spaghetti (aka food porn) I make it alot. Thank you for all that you do
There was no point in an uncomfortable night. Best to call it. That spaghetti is amazing! What a treat. Simple and easy. Thank you for your service Sarge!
Nice one the soup looks good thanks
That soup was amazing! I was very happy with the results
I found one of the guys who made his own hot tent out oh cheap generic tarps. Obsessed with them but check out the clothing he has to wear at those temps. Now shit hits the fan and you only have what the nuts say take with you. Think people!! I have been following this dude for a while. Especially for cold weather adventures
Those DIY tents from tarps are awesome! They work great. Winter is a fun time of year to camp
@@ItsGoodintheWoods been trying to teach my Facebook fam what it takes to survive in the cold if or when SHTF could happen and that you have to change your gear to survive long term not short term. Ultralight gear will not last a long term situation.
SEMPER FI
@@pakleader4 Agreed. I don't really have the time for long term situations. But I do have the gear for it. I'm not bringing that gear on my trips. It's too heavy and my trips are not long term oriented
Great video! I haven’t watched all your videos but have you ever talked about your layering system that you wear? Also very important!
I haven't really ever gone over my layering system. Never really figured there would be much interest.....
Dan Becker’s Latest Video: Biggest Mistakes - Not taking a repair kit for your pad… 🤣 Glad you enjoyed yourselves, wherever that may have been. 👍🏻
I had a repair kit......good luck repairing a pad in those conditions. Challenge number 1....how do you find the leak in those conditions......
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I wasn’t having a dig, it just amused me that I watched that particular video earlier and then this one.
@@InimitaPaul I didn't take it as a dig. My apologies if I came off snarky.
I do agree with him, a repair patch is important to have. But I really don't know how to find a slow leak without water.....and I'm not using water lol. I am genuinely curious as to how to go about finding a slow leak in zero degree weather. This would be good to know......and now I am thinking about it.
smart trip, bud...love the vids, thanks for the "good in the woods"
Thank you
No explanation necessary. Good decision.
Thank you
Awesome
Thank you Dave
Camping is supposed to fun. And obviously being safe is paramount. Of course you could have endured the night, but why? You made the right call for sure 👍.
Exactly. Why? There was no point in it
good message to put out there
Thank you
You’ve proven that you can’t if you had to. Nice job. I had less as a Soldier and fires weren’t even allowed due to our tactical situation. I agree with you. If you can’t then don’t. No sense in roughing it through a field problem if you don’t have to.
That is not what I have proven. What I did was say there is no point so why bother. It is a good message. We could have done it. It would be pointless.
Sometimes things happen. Doesn't mean you can't do it
"Step 2, beers!"
Beers! Cheers!
..cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…
Thank you very much
Wise move to bail. I would of done the same in a life or death situation. I've done many camping trips in Northern Ontario, Canada in bone chilling cold -35c to -40c without the wind chill. Dude,that would freeze the b@lls off a brass monkey..haha. I use the Bereg UP2 hot tent with insulated underpad,it's designed to withstand temperatures -50c to -60c..they use them in Siberia. One thing I learned over the yrs, I never sleep on the ground, I always use a cot, thermarest 6.9R, wool blanket and Browning -35c Klondike sleeping bag. I always bring a -15c mummy sleeping bag, just throw it in the Browning sleeping bag. I'll use the downfilled balaclava, sleep like a baby. The cabbage soup looked delicious 👍Thanks for the share Brother 👊 💥 🇨🇦🇺🇲💥👊
Sounds like you have a pretty serious set up. Cots are nice. I use them when the weight isn't an issue, but I still need to use the same sleep system with the cot. So it really is a luxury item for me. They are comfortable. But I am very much at home on the ground. I like it. I currently have 3 different cots. The lightest one is 4.8 lbs. I would like one of those ultralight ones, but they are expensive.
That cabbage soup was so good! I was blown away by it. I'll be doing that one again! Thanks for watching and commenting man! Much appreciated
Smart move.
Thank you
One hour, 241 views, 40 comments. 👍
Cabbage soup can have some after effects. I guess that you figured on that by taking two tents. 😁
Too bad about the pad failure. Pizza and some brews are a good bailout option, though.
Totally get you. Winter camping has to be about fun. Warmth isn't optional: no warmth, no fun. I've been there. Good decisions need no apology. Thanks for passing the information on. Yo never know. You might save a life. Many people don't factor in the relative fragility of an air pad because they usually perform flawlessly - until they don't.
My smokehouse hammock hot tent is in the queue. I should have it within a month. 🙌
I have had a few long cold sleepless nights as well. No fun. I didn't ever think we were in a dangerous situation, but I knew we were at the point where it could get dangerous real quick. It was an easy call to make at that point
I hope you enjoy that smokehouse!
@@ItsGoodintheWoods I'll bring it up to show you. I can't be more than 4 hours away.
Things happened and you're out there to enjoy yourself, not play survivalist. Good decisions were made and a reminder for the rest of us to know when to call it.
Exactly! I am glad you enjoyed the video. Thank you
What's the fun in being miserable? Just goes to show you, Shit can happen no matter how prepared you are. Using your brain (the best tool you have) is the right call.
100% agreed.
QUESTION: Spent the last 2 nights in my newly acquired Luxe Octopeak. Hit -10 and that was a bit nippy. My question is, what are the proper ways to use the vents when using a stove? I've heard several different things.
There are many ways to go about it. I keep mine closed. There is usually enough air flow to keep everything working fine. If your tent is completely sealed by snow at the base, that is when the vent comes in handy
Uhh. November through May = good day for soup.
Hahahahahaha! I can't argue with that
Sorry for the bad trip, can't win em all. Smartest thing is recognizing and not pushing on for no good reason.
I have yet another question for you 😅
I noticed in previous videos where you were sent the pomoly stove and they forgot the rings, so you made your own. This is the only other appearance I see of that stove and of course wasn't discussed due to other circumstances. Did you have a bad experience with it and decided to no longer use it? I have been debating about a pomoly or seek outside. Pomoly's newest are 1mm thick vs i believe .3mm on seek. However seek is USA based vs china produced pomoly. which is a HUGEEE plus to me. so on that alone I think makes me really want to get the seek outside. Could you provide any information that would solidify that choice?
Seek has their stove pipe offset from center and concerns the possibility of a tip over scenario and as stated earlier the thinness is a concern with warpage. Im not concerned with the look not being completely flat, but rather having bigger gaps and smoke just pouring out or not allowing a snug fit upon reassembly.
Thanks as always!
kind regards,
Josh
They can't all be great trips. It turned out to be a good learning experience for my buddy. Makes the trip a valuable one.
Pomoly never responded to me about those rings. And, lol, I was quite vocal on some of their facebook groups about their sketchy practice of using paying customers as their gear testing subjects....a couple of their tents in particular. Long story short, that led to me being banned from the groups, and despite many attempts to reach them through email, have been completely ignored. I took the hint, as a result No more Pomoly promoting on my channel.
That said, In all fairness, I have to say that some of their tents are quite nice for the price. And they do make good stoves. Their stoves are heavy though. Despite their extra thickness, they do warp. For a person hiking in all their gear, weight matters. This is where Seek Outside shines.
Seek outside stoves are Super light weight. They are not fast fold stoves. They require some simple on site assembling. And they do warp. All of these sound like cons, and they can be viewed as such. However, in my mind all of those short comings are worth it IF, you are a person that hauls gear for miles. They pack very flat taking up less space in your pack. The 5 minutes of assembling is much easier than carrying extra pounds for miles. And even though they warp, once assembled they hold their shape very well. It is when you take them apart you really notice the warping. My stove is 5 years old now and still going strong. Never had an issue that affected the performance. If a panel ever gets to be too bad, I will simply order a new panel. Speaking of performance, they are not the most efficient stoves. They require stoking every 1-2 hours. Again, worth dealing with when weight matters. Seek stoves will not be liked by car campers. There are better and cheaper stoves out there for that application. It is my personal opinion that when it comes to the adventurous type that hauls gear under their own power for miles, there is not a better stove on the market. And their customer service is top notch. They will actually talk with you on the phone, and they know what they are talking about!
I hope this helps. Pleas feel free to ask any questions you may have. I'm here to help. Thanks for watching Josh
@@ItsGoodintheWoods wow. Just wow. First off can I thank you for just confirming yet again why you are the best . I highly appreciate the interaction, the lengthy post and not just a quick ya ya thanks for the view . That says a lot man
Now on topic, I think I'm sold then. Seek outside! I plan on hauling gear for dang sure. It's a heavier bag but I am really interested in the mystery ranch terraframe 80. I like their "overload" feature if absolutely necessary.
I don't wanna car camp. But not doing some crazy thru hike. I figure I'll do no more than 2-3 miles to start. No mountains here but once hit some, that would be a set up camp, and finish summit with day pack type scenario for me. Or venture out early next morning. I'm 6'2 205-215 depending on time of year. ( Thanksgiving definitely packs on the pounds 🤣 I'm a sucker for good food) but I figure if I can't carry at least 45-50 pounds then I have some other major issues to address 🤣
Don't plan on doing any crazy 7-10 day adventures, as fun as they sound , unfortunately my job is very demanding and have my first son of 9 months. So those are out of question. Most likely can talk the Mrs into 2-3 day trips. Unless a big trip gets planned once a year.
Great outing. Duck will be around for next adventure.
No patch kit between the two of you?
I had a repair patch, I know its not worth the time to try and fix. Definitely not going to be spraying the thing down with water to try and find the leak.
@@ItsGoodintheWoods Got it. Totally situational. Not like you were way out in the middle of a multi day hike!
Smart move. Never risk hypothermia. I can tell you from experience living in Alaska
Definitely not worth it
Yep things went wrong with our tent 1st time using pomoly hex plus We got maybe 3 or 4" of snow and the The Pole in the middle snapped in half not fun
Oh no. I am glad no one got hurt. That is scary
@@ItsGoodintheWoods Everybody was good Benton in half before it broke had time to get stove and a few other things moved before it did break still not fun Is going to hit the local steel store and get me a solid steel Pole to make it through until we hear from pomoly
@@edsautohelpmore1204 Make a pole from some good green wood. That will be much much stronger than the cheap pole pomoly provides. Plus you can make it right in field. No sense carrying a heavy metal pole.
That is a awesome idea thank you
@@edsautohelpmore1204 You are welcome. It's an awesome way to save weight and increase the strength of your tent
What R-Value does your Neomo Tensor have. I have aTherm-A-Rest All Season. It’s the Long and Wide version; it’s heavy weighing in at one pound thirteenth ounces, but it’s made with 75 denier so it’s extremely durable and about as Bomb proof as a inflatable pad.gets. I got it because I am normally with my dogs and I was concerned about them stepping on my pad and puncturing it with there claws. Unfortunately they stopped making them. I am considering something lighter though.
I don't know the r value of it. Not much because it is not insulated. Hence the fleece sleeve
Things like that pad failure is why I'm super anal about my equipment.
Yep. Gear is definitely worth being fussy over. I hear that
We're any of "joes problems to due to the problems w the promoly tent leaking.? As reported on ogr?
No leaking tents. These are both Luxe hiking gear tents
What type of pad did he have? Did he have a back up Ridge Rest or Z-Lite?
He was using an old thermarest pad. He did not have a z lite.
Deer Hair
That never crossed my mind lol That is going to bother me
What tracks in the area would have been interesting to see. Distinct lack of blood. If i was to make a guess, i'd say it was a cougar attack. That amount of fur though, it may have been successful and dragged it off somewhere to cache it. If it was coyotes they'd have ate it on the spot. Bears should be hibernating.
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