As TR some peculiar things I find on TR are 1) Bedroom eyes/upturned eyes/intimidating gaze 2) narrow (yin) +sharp( yang) bone structure 3) sharpness usually on shoulders, elbow, wrist, fingers, feet, nose, jawline, brow bone maybe sometimes on temples and cheekbone 4) thick&soft flesh which gives firm breast (small or big doesn't matter)and round voluptuous hip, fleshy upper arm and thighs 5) small waist very essential to be a TR 6) narrow double curve
Late to the party, I feel the same sometimes when I'm feeling unsure about my look and figure, but I would say what clarifies it for me is that TR lines are a dream on me. Soft gamine lines aren't, or they could be okay on me depending. I found one trick that I think helps with these two types, do you look better if you had a similar coloured top and bottoms, or better with contrast? I think soft gamines being a type of gamine can pull off more contrast, TR can pull off a longer line as long as it actually fits and has waist emphasis. Also collars tend to look amazing on soft gamines and any gamines. Theatrical romantic might be able to do a collar but it's not going to do anything great for them
To be honest, I was squinting hard at my screen when she was explaining the differences between SG, TR, and SN. I can see the differences between them as essences, but not really as body types.
1:25 TR vs Dramatic 2:20 TR vs Soft Dramatic 3:03 TR vs Romantic 3:54 TR vs Classic 5:07 TR vs Soft Classic 5:47 TR vs Dramatic Classic 6:53 TR vs Natural 7:47 TR vs Soft Natural 8:27 TR vs Flamboyant Natural 9:18 TR vs Gamine 10:20 TR vs Soft Gamine 12:03 TR vs Flamboyant Gamine
I think it comes down to details a lot. So, even a T-shirt and jeans, for TR the t-shirt should be more fitted, and maybe with details like different trim on the collar/sleeves/hem, or a more delicate design or texture in a top, and jeans/pants that are well fitting, cut closer to the body, and fall right at the ankles, again with perhaps more detailing in terms of (not even ornate) embroidery (ex. pockets that look more designed).
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus You’re good at this! Please start a channel to help us Theatrical Romantics who AREN’T at all theatrical or romantic in personality figure out how the heck to dress, lol. I’m a t-shirt, jeans and Birkenstock’s girl and feel awkward in dresses. My personality doesn’t match my body type at ALL and it’s really frustrating.
There are some designers like miu miu, guess, Anna sui, Betsy Johnson who generally design for a romantic woman, they are good for inspiration or to buy second hand . If you write “romantic “ before an internet search that can actually work sometimes, like “romantic sweater”. Or “romanticswimsuit”
I thought I was flamboyant gamine for a long time, but I really look terrible in gamine lines. Besides, people never think of me as boyish even though I'm kind of petite. I never felt voluptuous enough to think I could be TR, but those are the lines that look best on me. I feel the best in soft, flowy clothing that accents my femininity. Anyone else have this problem?
Yep ! Same here and I feel way better with softer clothing, but the cut is important too, I now really like to accentuate the line of my shoulders (nothing to do with kibbe but still...)
Me too I can relate to this so much! I went on Reddit to ask and it changed my view thinking maybe I’m a yang type or fg, but when I try those things out it always looks off.
Fun thing that happened to me: when I grew up I was surrounded by (I guess?) gamines, so I always turned out to be the taller one (I’m 166,5cm, but my friends were like 155-160). Then I moved and all the sudden I was the tiny one😂 my new friends were all 170-175 cm and I looked much smaller. I had never PERCEIVED myself as the romantic type I am. Anyone else experienced this?😅
@@durgaambika4342 It’s very interesting huh?! 😅 and even more so if your parents/siblings are much taller or shorter then you, then you hear those comments very often (like ”yeah you can wear that, you are tall…”) and then you change environment and all the sudden you are not tall at all😂😋
I realised this too as a SN, most of my friends are Gamines or Romantics so I always thought I was really tall but realised I'm only 5'3 and that I'm not as tall as I perceived myself 😂
I know I am theatrical romantic thanks to your body types playlist, but I still like watching your new body type videos. They confirm I have this body type. Thank you ❤️
Thank you for another great video! I'm a TR but I don't really feel like my self when I wear the suggested TR clothing. I prefer a more simple look. Have you ever considered doing different styles for each body type while staying in the each types lines? I think it would be really helpful😃
I have been associating the word "romantic" with extremely curvy and wide bodies. Wandering around gamines because of my short, narrow body and not entirely masculine nor feminine beauty I eventually one day realised how hourglass my body is and decided to give other types a try. And here I am just very happy about the fact that I'm a theatrical romantic :))
Finally!! I am so confused about theatrical romantic. Has Aly revealed what body type she is? She mentioned quite a few videos back that she is not a soft gamine so I am curious. Thank you so much Aly for doing TR. Lots of love ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ to you. Stay safe! PS: Is the body type quiz still valid?
The body type quiz can help you understand the body types better but essentially you can’t type yourself based on the quiz alone. Your overall vibe, height, vertical line, overall figure, bone structure and sometimes flesh are important to determine your type
I thought maybe she would reveal herself as flamboyant gamine?? Since her mother is one? I did think she started dressing a bit more colorful and artistic recently which would fit. But yeah she never told us.
When are you going to do a video on your body type? That will be a cool video. Could you do one using non celebrity examples, regular women or UA-camrs - that would be interesting? I narrowed it down to soft gamine, flamboyant gamine or theatrical romantic. I’m leaning toward soft gamine tho for me, but not sure.
I have known for a while that I’m soft natural, but I thought for a while that I was theatrical romantic. These video comparison formats are super helpful!
Awesome. The more of these I watch the more I am sure I'm a soft dramatic! Definitely resonate with some points of the TR however I know I'm tall (5 ft 10) and I do feel that heaviness even when I'm thin.
I like to think of soft dramatics and theatrical romantics as “miniature” and “full-size” versions of each other lol. I’m pretty sure I’m a theatrical romantic and everyone I meet who’s a a soft dramatic makes me feel like I’m their little sister or something lol. 😆
Hi Aly. I gotta say, for someone who is originally from Russia, your English is spectacular. While naturally we can hear an accent, your grasp of the English language is wonderful. Did you study English in Russia?
Thank you so much! 🤗❤️ really looking forward to the TR style review, I’m relatively new to Kibbe (but know my type already) and my lines are harder to dress/shop for, so I’m trying to find sewing inspo.
@katiechasm that’s a good point, I’ll try to focus more on everyday people more… with hollywood examples they both look about the same to me, except that TR are meant to be smaller, but then Shakira, f.ex, is a SN at only 5.2
Makes total sense. I have a friend who is a TR and I'm a SN and she thought I was the "same" as her till I showed her the body types video and she took the test. We then stood side by side in the mirror with swimsuits on so she could get a better understanding. I would say TR are "daintier" and have a more dramatic feminine vibe whereas MOST SN have a more athletic or girl-next-door vibe. I think a great example is Britney Spears...even though she is super sexy, she can pull off that essence that is more sporty and playful and even in her sexiest outfits she has that undercurrent going.
i am a TR i think… every quizz tell me i am for sure. very yin and slight yang (some sharpness but not that much) but one thing, i am 165cm but i appear taller irl people are always surprised (i think they usually think i am mostly 168cm) this video made me doubt a lil about being a sd but i do not fulfill every thing in this category compared to tr (expect my height) sooo
I am so theatrical romantic, I look like all the theatrical romantics do compared to the other women when I take pictures with other women lol. I’m about 5’6 but I look shorter in photos where people online are always surprised at my height.
I too am 5’6 and TR! My sisters look so angular and tall comparatively even though my FN little sister is actually shorter :( Do you also find it hard to find clothes that fit flatteringly as we have small bones but are tall?
Hi Aly. Fantastic video. I was waiting for something like this. I still have narrowed it down to Theoretical Romantic through process of elimination. And this video makes my decision so much clearer now. Much thanks again.
Eva Longoria is a Gamine ? She seems like a Theatrical Romantic too me, she's not tomboyish at all and looks like Salma Hayek on the picture where they're standing next to each other. Guess I have to train my eyes again
Great video Aly! I was wondering if you would consider making a body type videos in which you show possible differences and variations within one type using celebrities examples. So, for instance, FNs have width and vertical prominent vertical line as well as width, but not all FNs have that width distributed in the same way. xx
The confusions are exciting! First I thought I was soft gamine most because of my height, but now I'm realizing that maybe I'm more theatrical romantic...
Jada Pinkette Smith being a theatrical romantic confuses me tbh. I don’t see that lushness or curvature in her at all. Would’ve pegged her to be a gamine.
@@peacefreedomandwealth salma has had work done on her chest, but if you see her predebut pics and even now her face and arms and legs are very Tr. She's not as soft as drew Barrymore
I'm a little confused sometimes if we are talking about just body types, or essences as well. If you don't factor in the face, if you are only considering the way clothing fits on the body, then are TR, SG, and SN really that different from one another? In general, I do have some skepticism about Kibbe, because he claims to be only focused on the body, but he seems to be factoring in people's faces and overall vibes as well. For example, if Audry Hepburn didn't have her baby face and childlike vibes, would she really be a FG? The woman is 5'7.
I’ve been waiting for this!! Through every test I always end up with TR, but through pandemic I have recently gained a bit of weight and no longer know if I exactly ft with this anymore. Do you have a video on what weight gain will do to the kibbe types? It was my understanding that it doesn’t really affect it too much because the type has to do with bones and overall essence, but it is hard to tell. Could I have turned into R instead of TR with the extra weight? Or is the sharpness in my face/demeanor still enough to balance the extra wideness?
there are weight gain patterns mentioned in the book, r's get soft all over, while tr's gain weight mainly on hips, upper thighs, arms and their waist remains defined in proportion to the rest of their body.
The opposite happened to me. I did so many sports in school, I thought I was a soft natural but when I stopped sports now in university I’m definitely not a natural 😂😂. Weight can definitely make you think you’re a different type.
I’m a TR who is on the taller side (5’9), but when I am with my friend who is a FG and is slightly shorter (5’7), people say that she looks taller than me, which is interesting because even though I’m taller, I have a shorter vertical line so I don’t LOOK taller
A while ago you made a video about the shade of eyebrows. I wonder if you could elaborate some day about naturally dark hair, dark eyes and medium dark skin with almost no dark hair in the face for instance very light eyebrows and lashes so that it melts into the skin. I saw a women in your contrast videos. I think she was in the 0 category of contrast because she had green eyes or something. She looked like a woman from Indian or Pakistani decent or it could be even African decent. But what stood out to me was that she had almost no hair in her face, beautiful dark skin and beautiful green eyes. My question is, what about woman who have similar features like her but dark brown eyes instead of green eyes? I find it very beautiful on her to see that she almost had no eyebrows and lashes. On myself sometimes I like more dark brown eyebrows and on other days I like it like she had in the picture. Is there a way to enhance these specific features without creating a masquerade like dark brows and dark lashes? It is very hard to find information about this specific case. I realized Rihanna got naturally light eyebrows and lashes but she has also lighter eyes to. I couldn’t think of an example of someone with dark brown eyes.
Now I'm doubting myself between SD and TR hahaha I think I'm SD, because I'm not that curvy, although I have hourglass shape, my upper body part stands out much more making my legs look thinner. BUT I'm narrow and have moderate vertical line
acyually no, kibbe himself said that rihanna is not a TR because she is tall and that's already very yang for her to be such a yin type. taller women can;t be TR's, i think that he is very strict regarding heights. (not in a bad way, i'm stating what i've noticed)
Anyone else confused why Rhianna is a Theatrical Romantic?? Other channels say the same, not just this one so I'm not trying to argue her authority. I thought a big quality they have is looking small and actually being petite women, typically 5'5 and under. Rhianna is literally taller than this and also looks tall because her limbs seem long. I'm just confused 😵💫
Can I be a TR with really small bust line? Like, there's not much going on on my chest but the rest of my body (especially hips) are TR and my face is something close to SC, I don't know how to combine that...
Hello~ Can u do a video on theatrical romantic makeup for Asian eyes? I have watched ur makeup video on theatrical romantics and I found many of the tips helpful. However I have been having issues with the eyes. I don’t have a deep enough double eyelid crease or enough eyelid space to have the same effect and I want to avoid drawing another eyelid crease. 😅
Aly! Please please start doing some style reviews of more modern celebrities! I love the old Hollywood style but it would be awesome to get some more modern style reviews.
Aly, first of thanks for your courses, they add a lot of interest and spice to a common life, and I learn a lot from them. Just looking this video, and I am just lost just in serious doubt about some of the models for compared styles. The most confusing ones here is Jennifer Aniston who is just 160 (sorry, just skimmed through - she is 164, but still looks rather compact than average) cm high, as I know. And I really tend to consider her a soft gamine. And the most strange thing is with Rihanna. I checked her height with the open sources and got just smashed by the reality - she is nearly 175 cm high. What is there to say at all? She personally tends to use TR styles, but I am 100 per cent sure (or tend to think rather) her real status is either DC or SD. In addition to that, she looks nearly FN (sorry, this is rather SN) on photos of her in the beach - her posture is plainly blunt and is not sophisticated and sharp at all. Plus very long legs and somewhat fattish heaps. Vertical line - all obvious. Maybe the confusion here is because of her facial traits which look pretty much like theatrical with those curvy lips, beautiful eyes and very vivid strong outline of the face. My guess is that her devotion to TR solutions are based on her being a black person with bright ethnic culture roots, which are all about theatrical romantic details and embellishments. Just a tradition, fortified by her status of a Black Diva on stage - this demands some sort of theatrical effects to sing things she sings, and the specifics of her particular audience as well... Plus she looks stunning in relaxed, free, waving garments akin to naturals. At least for me...Could you persuade me I am wrong? Thank you, again. I know there are people in the field who seized to attribute Kibbe styles with regard to dimensions matter and rather look at the overall picture of a person. Although I cannot still digest this approach...
Rachel McAdams is no where close to TR according to David Kibbe...I also wouldn't use Rihanna as an example. She's highly controversial being 5'8, there are just much better examples to use.
@@SusanaLezcano I gonna have to disagree with you because next to Selma Hayek who is a verified TR, Rihanna has obvious vertical and a narrow and sharp bone structure with round flesh. Selma looks more delicate and petite. Kibbe unverified her because he hasn't seen her in person. I personally have never seen TR in her.
I'm pretty sure im a tr. The footwear is challenging. I like chunky shoes and boots but they don't suit me at all. I don't want to sacrifice walkability...I often walk far and don't want any footwear that wouldn't stand up to that, but I wouldn't mind some that looked good on me too. It's really hard.
Your videos always help me :) I've thought I am a Soft Gamine because I am not curvy, but recently I found out that I was a Romantic. I figured body type is not my style or personal essence. It is based on how much yin/yang you have in your bone structure and body lines. I am petite have small bust, but my bone structure and flesh is very much yin(Romantic) Because many instructions of Kibbe Type have described Romantics womanly, curvy, mature, and sensual women, I didn't know I was a Romantic. I think this is what we should be careful. :) Now I know I'm not a gamine! :) And I also think you are a Theatrical Romantic, Aly. You looked really nice with TR dress and makeups in some other video I saw :) Edit: I think Aly is Soft Classic. I saw Hayden Panettiere's pictures. I think she's SC. And she reminds me of Aly.
what you say is interesting. I was told once from this pic attached I may be SG. I am 5'2 with small breasts, size 8/10 with some curves but also sort of broad shoulders. Now I think I could be SG, R, TR or SN from watching different videos from Aly. Of all the wardrobes, without even knowing these types, I dress R and C perhaps my French heritage is showing. I defo look good in sexy bodycon, fitted dresses. I wish Aly offered a paid service to tell us our type :)
@@froufou100 thank for comment. That is interesting. :) I found that I was not a R, but SC, today. I am 5'1 so I thought I wasn't a SC because I'm petite. I'm even thinking that might be a reason why I have small breasts and not defined waistline... Hope it helps! I once thought I was a SG because of my height but Gamine's wardrobes didn't work for me...
@@hessed8198 sorry for the late reply. How did you find out you are SC and not R? I joined a FB group and quite a few people said C but like you I am petite. Actually, I have also been labelled SG, TR and SN - so confusing. Some people think some fo these are actually my essence instead of body type so although I am making progress, I am still not sure what is the main ID I should out for buying a new winter coat :)
I love these videos!! I have very odd features, I feel like I fit into none and all categories. 🤣 I have a larger bulbous nose, thin lips, downturned eyes, a diamond shaped face but not a strong chin, sloped shoulders, but a boxy figure with soft flesh and some muscle. Slight waist definition, and I am short waisted. I'm right in the center of the height spectrum. People do think I'm taller and weigh less than I do though. It's very odd, so I've been binge watching videos to try to narrow it down. 💚 Anybody else kind of stuck in the middle like me?
If you’re perceived as taller than you have a tall vertical line, which means you’re probably one of the yang types. If you’re also a bit boxy you should probably look into the natural types: flamboyant ideas you’re “dry” in the flesh as Aly describes it and soft your flesh is lush.
Could you do a video addressing how to coordinate elements if your face and body are different types? I'm definitely some kind of gamine overall, but sometimes what looks best on my body seems to clash with my face or vice-versa
Yes, im confused among soft gamine, FG and TR. Im soft, not voluptuous but a slight hourglass. My shoulders are straight, answer A and have hip dips plus wide hand and feet (soft). Other than this all the faicial fetures are yin. Small bones and very delicate wrists, ankels elbows, and knees. Delicate looking. I look slightly straight with clothes on but without them i have clear waist emphasis with wider hips. What the hell am i?! I thought im soft gamine but i look SO bad in short hairs!! Plus, i think i look childish in soft gamine outfits. Hairs are the only reason i think im not FG or even Soft gamine. Can someone explain what i might be?? P.S. im 21 y/o, and i don't think i'm voluptuous like TR. To delicate for SN too. ☹️
I was analyzed as theatrical romantic by David Kibbe, i was a hair stylist for his workshops in the 90s,after working with him for a month I became a dramatic gamin,I am dramatic gamine
I have a little sharpness in shoulders, cheekbones , maybe my nose because its quite narrow and up turned and my forehead and jawline are narrow (im a diamond face shape, but with rounded angles) i have long legs for my short height (im 5'3 with a 30 inch leg), i have very curvy legs, feet and wide hips. Small head , petite bones , narrow small child like hands, soft flesh , narrow waist , soft and full lips, full cheeks and big roundish up turned eyes. Im a Theatrical romantic , this is my yin yang mix , you dont have to look the exact same but be of a similar mix of yin and yang (mostly yin). hope this helps someone .
I’m a TR but 5’7???? My legs and arms look so much shorter though as all my height is my torso and i have a much smaller waist than my shoulders and hips…. I think im not a true R as i have angles in my shoulders and face… i think.
@@desic3274 Absolutely! If Aly saw her body from her A Different World days I think she would put her in the gamine category. Looks like she may have had breast augmentation and toned herself up, which makes her look slightly "thicker" now lol
I thought I was the only one who thought this! Especially when watching "Set It Off" - that scene where she goes to the dinner with Blair Underwood in the evening dress, always reminds me of Aly's description where she says "like a little girl in her mama's clothes"! And her most popular phase was when she had that short cropped hair cut!
It can be hard with these celebrities because they get so much work done that it can change their natural body types. Like Kim Kardashian with all the stuff she's done to her butt and her body it makes her look like more of a romantic but she's actually theatrical romantic.
I was looking for this! I’ve been saying this in other videos. I think she is a pure gamine. She looks so harmonious with very short hair, bright broken lines, and delicate but perky makeup. That reflects pure gamine to me.
I don't know what am I. 😭 I am 169 cm in height, so am I too tall for TR? My features are soft, my body shape is hourglass with theatrical shoulders and face structure... I guess I'll never know.
Do you look shorter than you actually are in photos? Do your romantic features stand out in photos with other women (especially if they’re less romantic and more dramatic)? As in, does your curviness really stand out? If so I think you could be TR :)
What really matters is whether you can pull off the softly ornate, perfectly-curled hair and the form-fitting, feminine clothes. If those look the best on you who is to tell you that you aren’t tr? Rihanna is 5’8 and apparently one, so though I don’t remember the conversion rate taller theatrical romantics definitely exist ^^
As TR some peculiar things I find on TR are
1) Bedroom eyes/upturned eyes/intimidating gaze
2) narrow (yin) +sharp( yang) bone structure
3) sharpness usually on shoulders, elbow, wrist, fingers, feet, nose, jawline, brow bone maybe sometimes on temples and cheekbone
4) thick&soft flesh which gives firm breast (small or big doesn't matter)and round voluptuous hip, fleshy upper arm and thighs
5) small waist very essential to be a TR
6) narrow double curve
Omg wait but why is this 100% me
This is a great list 😌 as a TR this is so true.
Thank you. This is so helpful and solidifies my kibbe typing.
I'm torn between TR and SD! But since my upper body stands out compared to my hips, even though I'm an hourglass shape, I guess I must be SD.
*Looks at tummy* welp, def don't have #5
I can’t decide between soft gamine and theatrical
Romantic
same
Me too helppp
@@letsbakeitout I have always been told I look intimidating even though I am 4’11
Late to the party, I feel the same sometimes when I'm feeling unsure about my look and figure, but I would say what clarifies it for me is that TR lines are a dream on me. Soft gamine lines aren't, or they could be okay on me depending. I found one trick that I think helps with these two types, do you look better if you had a similar coloured top and bottoms, or better with contrast? I think soft gamines being a type of gamine can pull off more contrast, TR can pull off a longer line as long as it actually fits and has waist emphasis. Also collars tend to look amazing on soft gamines and any gamines. Theatrical romantic might be able to do a collar but it's not going to do anything great for them
To be honest, I was squinting hard at my screen when she was explaining the differences between SG, TR, and SN. I can see the differences between them as essences, but not really as body types.
1:25 TR vs Dramatic
2:20 TR vs Soft Dramatic
3:03 TR vs Romantic
3:54 TR vs Classic
5:07 TR vs Soft Classic
5:47 TR vs Dramatic Classic
6:53 TR vs Natural
7:47 TR vs Soft Natural
8:27 TR vs Flamboyant Natural
9:18 TR vs Gamine
10:20 TR vs Soft Gamine
12:03 TR vs Flamboyant Gamine
Could you please do a video analysing style of a TR celebrity (Viv Leigh ideally
I find linen pieces (still in a delicate cut) can be styled to look more casual, but still align with the light airiness of the TR body type.
I think it comes down to details a lot. So, even a T-shirt and jeans, for TR the t-shirt should be more fitted, and maybe with details like different trim on the collar/sleeves/hem, or a more delicate design or texture in a top, and jeans/pants that are well fitting, cut closer to the body, and fall right at the ankles, again with perhaps more detailing in terms of (not even ornate) embroidery (ex. pockets that look more designed).
I've just thought to myself I'd like to see Vivien Leigh analysis!
@@HeavenlyEchoVirus You’re good at this! Please start a channel to help us Theatrical Romantics who AREN’T at all theatrical or romantic in personality figure out how the heck to dress, lol. I’m a t-shirt, jeans and Birkenstock’s girl and feel awkward in dresses. My personality doesn’t match my body type at ALL and it’s really frustrating.
There are some designers like miu miu, guess, Anna sui, Betsy Johnson who generally design for a romantic woman, they are good for inspiration or to buy second hand . If you write “romantic “ before an internet search that can actually work sometimes, like “romantic sweater”. Or “romanticswimsuit”
Never clicked so fast thank you so much!!
I thought I was flamboyant gamine for a long time, but I really look terrible in gamine lines. Besides, people never think of me as boyish even though I'm kind of petite. I never felt voluptuous enough to think I could be TR, but those are the lines that look best on me. I feel the best in soft, flowy clothing that accents my femininity. Anyone else have this problem?
Yep ! Same here and I feel way better with softer clothing, but the cut is important too, I now really like to accentuate the line of my shoulders (nothing to do with kibbe but still...)
You're probably ethereal. Waif like.
Me too I can relate to this so much! I went on Reddit to ask and it changed my view thinking maybe I’m a yang type or fg, but when I try those things out it always looks off.
Fun thing that happened to me: when I grew up I was surrounded by (I guess?) gamines, so I always turned out to be the taller one (I’m 166,5cm, but my friends were like 155-160). Then I moved and all the sudden I was the tiny one😂 my new friends were all 170-175 cm and I looked much smaller. I had never PERCEIVED myself as the romantic type I am. Anyone else experienced this?😅
I have experienced the same thing evolving from the tallest girl to more petite voluptuous woman😂
@@durgaambika4342 It’s very interesting huh?! 😅 and even more so if your parents/siblings are much taller or shorter then you, then you hear those comments very often (like ”yeah you can wear that, you are tall…”) and then you change environment and all the sudden you are not tall at all😂😋
Exact same thing, plus I wear a lot of heels, I was the tall one, when im 168 cm 😂
I realised this too as a SN, most of my friends are Gamines or Romantics so I always thought I was really tall but realised I'm only 5'3 and that I'm not as tall as I perceived myself 😂
Hahaha as a French, the same thing happened to me when I moved to Germany 🇩🇪😂
Id love if more plus size examples were used to give a variety and larger explanation
More sensual and more electric. Very good words to describe type in a diplomatic way. Very nice Video! Love it.
Would love a video where you assess body types from photos that your viewers send in of themselves 🧍🏼♀️
same bro cause I am so confused😭
I know I am theatrical romantic thanks to your body types playlist, but I still like watching your new body type videos. They confirm I have this body type. Thank you ❤️
I really wish to donate you some money but i don't earn any. Once I get a job surely gonna donate you. People like you should be appreciated more🥰🥰
The best way u can support her is by not skipping ads that show up on her vids :)
She is not starving you should donate to homeless people. She is fine making content she like and has ads from UA-cam
Thank you for another great video! I'm a TR but I don't really feel like my self when I wear the suggested TR clothing. I prefer a more simple look. Have you ever considered doing different styles for each body type while staying in the each types lines? I think it would be really helpful😃
Yay! I’ve been waiting for this one ❤️❤️ thank you so much ❤️
I have been associating the word "romantic" with extremely curvy and wide bodies. Wandering around gamines because of my short, narrow body and not entirely masculine nor feminine beauty I eventually one day realised how hourglass my body is and decided to give other types a try. And here I am just very happy about the fact that I'm a theatrical romantic :))
Finally!! I am so confused about theatrical romantic. Has Aly revealed what body type she is? She mentioned quite a few videos back that she is not a soft gamine so I am curious. Thank you so much Aly for doing TR. Lots of love ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ to you. Stay safe!
PS: Is the body type quiz still valid?
Yes
She's said in many videos that she is soft gamine. Never saw a recent video when she said she isn't :) but probably I'm wrong Idk
She might be a pure Gamine in my opinion
The body type quiz can help you understand the body types better but essentially you can’t type yourself based on the quiz alone. Your overall vibe, height, vertical line, overall figure, bone structure and sometimes flesh are important to determine your type
I thought maybe she would reveal herself as flamboyant gamine?? Since her mother is one? I did think she started dressing a bit more colorful and artistic recently which would fit. But yeah she never told us.
I've been watching these once a year and still don't understand 😭 but i love these ❤️
Once a year? How can you learn something watching it once a year
When are you going to do a video on your body type? That will be a cool video. Could you do one using non celebrity examples, regular women or UA-camrs - that would be interesting? I narrowed it down to soft gamine, flamboyant gamine or theatrical romantic. I’m leaning toward soft gamine tho for me, but not sure.
She's said she doesn't believe anymore that she's a soft gamine.
I have known for a while that I’m soft natural, but I thought for a while that I was theatrical romantic. These video comparison formats are super helpful!
Same! The videos have helped a lot but also the description by Kibbie I found on Pinterest of Soft Natural.
I had the exact same confusion for a while!
I would like if tou use more variety of artists to represent TR instead of always going for Salma Hayek
Awesome. The more of these I watch the more I am sure I'm a soft dramatic! Definitely resonate with some points of the TR however I know I'm tall (5 ft 10) and I do feel that heaviness even when I'm thin.
I like to think of soft dramatics and theatrical romantics as “miniature” and “full-size” versions of each other lol. I’m pretty sure I’m a theatrical romantic and everyone I meet who’s a a soft dramatic makes me feel like I’m their little sister or something lol. 😆
@@sarahs.9678 I was about to say the same thing. It's so real 😂
@@sarahs.9678 Same with FGs and Ds. I feel like FGs could be mini Dramatics.
@@sarahs.9678 😂😂 so true. Some people think my little sister is my big sister because she is a SD.
Fg could also be mini naturals. @@SaraM-sj8xg
Hi Aly.
I gotta say, for someone who is originally from Russia, your English is spectacular. While naturally we can hear an accent, your grasp of the English language is wonderful. Did you study English in Russia?
Thank you so much! 🤗❤️ really looking forward to the TR style review, I’m relatively new to Kibbe (but know my type already) and my lines are harder to dress/shop for, so I’m trying to find sewing inspo.
I still have so much trouble distinguishing SN and TR…
i think some of the differences are easier to see in real life/non-Hollywood examples... SNs have kind of a chunkier and heavier look imo
@katiechasm that’s a good point, I’ll try to focus more on everyday people more… with hollywood examples they both look about the same to me, except that TR are meant to be smaller, but then Shakira, f.ex, is a SN at only 5.2
Makes total sense. I have a friend who is a TR and I'm a SN and she thought I was the "same" as her till I showed her the body types video and she took the test. We then stood side by side in the mirror with swimsuits on so she could get a better understanding. I would say TR are "daintier" and have a more dramatic feminine vibe whereas MOST SN have a more athletic or girl-next-door vibe. I think a great example is Britney Spears...even though she is super sexy, she can pull off that essence that is more sporty and playful and even in her sexiest outfits she has that undercurrent going.
@@Evqureg96 that’s really useful, thanks a lot for taking the time to share!
@@giomar89 SNs are still moderate to petite but SNs will look wider and slightly blunted rather than dainty and narrower
My favorite kibbe type. Absolutely gorgeous.💕
Theatrical Romantic here 🙋🏻♀️
I'd would love to know which Asian celebrities are theatrical romantic because I love how Korean and Japanese women dress.
Thank you! I was waiting for this TR video for soo long 💙
Thanks so much! I wasn't sure if I was a Theatrical Romantic or Soft Natural and I feel more confident I'm TR :-)
i am a TR i think… every quizz tell me i am for sure. very yin and slight yang (some sharpness but not that much) but one thing, i am 165cm but i appear taller irl people are always surprised (i think they usually think i am mostly 168cm)
this video made me doubt a lil about being a sd but i do not fulfill every thing in this category compared to tr (expect my height) sooo
If you find yourself questing your type based on literally one or two things, that’s usually not enough to mean you’re something else. 🙂
i find a draping test of smth lacey is very helpful. TR looks exceptionally good in the lace.
I am so theatrical romantic, I look like all the theatrical romantics do compared to the other women when I take pictures with other women lol. I’m about 5’6 but I look shorter in photos where people online are always surprised at my height.
I too am 5’6 and TR! My sisters look so angular and tall comparatively even though my FN little sister is actually shorter :( Do you also find it hard to find clothes that fit flatteringly as we have small bones but are tall?
@@shirin9452 yes definitely! And that fit the curves but also the small bones and height
Hi Aly. Fantastic video. I was waiting for something like this. I still have narrowed it down to Theoretical Romantic through process of elimination. And this video makes my decision so much clearer now. Much thanks again.
Eva Longoria is a Gamine ? She seems like a Theatrical Romantic too me, she's not tomboyish at all and looks like Salma Hayek on the picture where they're standing next to each other. Guess I have to train my eyes again
I think she dresses with a TR flair so it tricks the eye, but tailoring is pretty gamine so it’s well done
Great video Aly! I was wondering if you would consider making a body type videos in which you show possible differences and variations within one type using celebrities examples. So, for instance, FNs have width and vertical prominent vertical line as well as width, but not all FNs have that width distributed in the same way. xx
Thankyou so so much Aly I love you so much your videos help me a lot💕
I just can't thank you enough,have a beautiful day
The confusions are exciting!
First I thought I was soft gamine most because of my height, but now I'm realizing that maybe I'm more theatrical romantic...
Love your videos, I was waiting for my body type in this series 🥰
I still don't know if I am a TR or a SG. I find it so hard. I tried both styles, both look good I think.. But I really want to know what type I am!!
same :( we need mr kibbe himself to type us lol
Жду видео о style review про theatrical romantic!!!
torn between theatrical romantic and soft gamine
"staccato looking", loved that definition. ♥
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS❤❤
Thank you for doing a video on TR!
I have 700 of these videos and I still have no idea what type I am..
Wooo!!! Finally! Been hoping for this
Can you do a video about the aging face (women over 35)? What hairstyles, jewelry, clothes, etc. would work best?
Why over 35 and not 40 or 45 :P?
I've watched at least 20 kibbe videos and still have no idea what type I am 🤣
Jada Pinkette Smith being a theatrical romantic confuses me tbh. I don’t see that lushness or curvature in her at all. Would’ve pegged her to be a gamine.
The same and Salma Hayek looks pure Romantic.
@@peacefreedomandwealth salma has had work done on her chest, but if you see her predebut pics and even now her face and arms and legs are very Tr. She's not as soft as drew Barrymore
Aah I’ve been waiting for this one!
you should do a video on the Theatrical romantic Mila Kunis, I love her 💞
I'm a little confused sometimes if we are talking about just body types, or essences as well. If you don't factor in the face, if you are only considering the way clothing fits on the body, then are TR, SG, and SN really that different from one another?
In general, I do have some skepticism about Kibbe, because he claims to be only focused on the body, but he seems to be factoring in people's faces and overall vibes as well. For example, if Audry Hepburn didn't have her baby face and childlike vibes, would she really be a FG? The woman is 5'7.
I’ve been waiting for this!! Through every test I always end up with TR, but through pandemic I have recently gained a bit of weight and no longer know if I exactly ft with this anymore. Do you have a video on what weight gain will do to the kibbe types? It was my understanding that it doesn’t really affect it too much because the type has to do with bones and overall essence, but it is hard to tell. Could I have turned into R instead of TR with the extra weight? Or is the sharpness in my face/demeanor still enough to balance the extra wideness?
your type doesn't change with weight :D
there are weight gain patterns mentioned in the book, r's get soft all over, while tr's gain weight mainly on hips, upper thighs, arms and their waist remains defined in proportion to the rest of their body.
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she did this one
The opposite happened to me. I did so many sports in school, I thought I was a soft natural but when I stopped sports now in university I’m definitely not a natural 😂😂. Weight can definitely make you think you’re a different type.
I’m a TR who is on the taller side (5’9), but when I am with my friend who is a FG and is slightly shorter (5’7), people say that she looks taller than me, which is interesting because even though I’m taller, I have a shorter vertical line so I don’t LOOK taller
TR, soft dramatic, romantic, soft natural
I love your hair length!!!
Jada Pinkett is definitely a pure gamine. You have to look up pics from the 1990s
I thought that kibbe body type definition didn't include real measurements such as height but more the impression given by the vertical line ???
Yup, I’m TR, but arms are not fleshy at all. The rest is spot on. ✨
A while ago you made a video about the shade of eyebrows. I wonder if you could elaborate some day about naturally dark hair, dark eyes and medium dark skin with almost no dark hair in the face for instance very light eyebrows and lashes so that it melts into the skin. I saw a women in your contrast videos. I think she was in the 0 category of contrast because she had green eyes or something. She looked like a woman from Indian or Pakistani decent or it could be even African decent. But what stood out to me was that she had almost no hair in her face, beautiful dark skin and beautiful green eyes. My question is, what about woman who have similar features like her but dark brown eyes instead of green eyes? I find it very beautiful on her to see that she almost had no eyebrows and lashes. On myself sometimes I like more dark brown eyebrows and on other days I like it like she had in the picture. Is there a way to enhance these specific features without creating a masquerade like dark brows and dark lashes? It is very hard to find information about this specific case. I realized Rihanna got naturally light eyebrows and lashes but she has also lighter eyes to. I couldn’t think of an example of someone with dark brown eyes.
This video was so helpful! Thank you!
Now I'm doubting myself between SD and TR hahaha I think I'm SD, because I'm not that curvy, although I have hourglass shape, my upper body part stands out much more making my legs look thinner. BUT I'm narrow and have moderate vertical line
great video!! Thank you!!
I want to ask you all... Can a 5'6'' woman be TR I have seen many typing 5'6'' tall celebs as TR
yes
Rihanna is 5'8 and still often typed TR. Hedy Lamarr, verified TR, is also around 5'7.
acyually no, kibbe himself said that rihanna is not a TR because she is tall and that's already very yang for her to be such a yin type. taller women can;t be TR's, i think that he is very strict regarding heights. (not in a bad way, i'm stating what i've noticed)
rachel mcadams isn't a TR either, but he didn't say what her ID is (all those are said on strictly kibbe, a facebook group he takes part in)
@@PrincessRamsha999 but there is a popular opinion that both of them are not TR
can you make a video about deep set eyes?
Anyone else confused why Rhianna is a Theatrical Romantic?? Other channels say the same, not just this one so I'm not trying to argue her authority. I thought a big quality they have is looking small and actually being petite women, typically 5'5 and under. Rhianna is literally taller than this and also looks tall because her limbs seem long. I'm just confused 😵💫
Love your videos!!!
Thank you Aly 🙂
I'm theatrical romantic but with an ingenue essence. :D
Super interesting !! ✅
Can you please make a video on all of the TR celebs? Thanks!
SO helpful!!! ❤
Can I be a TR with really small bust line? Like, there's not much going on on my chest but the rest of my body (especially hips) are TR and my face is something close to SC, I don't know how to combine that...
Is there anyway, subscribers can send pics for u to analyse, even if it is for a video so that they know more about themselves for sure!
Hello~
Can u do a video on theatrical romantic makeup for Asian eyes? I have watched ur makeup video on theatrical romantics and I found many of the tips helpful. However I have been having issues with the eyes. I don’t have a deep enough double eyelid crease or enough eyelid space to have the same effect and I want to avoid drawing another eyelid crease. 😅
Rihanna is really tall (5.8) so how can she be Theatrical Romantic?? X
What about nicole s..from pcd it is noway she is TR she is tall !!
I'm waiting for soft classic
Aly! Please please start doing some style reviews of more modern celebrities! I love the old Hollywood style but it would be awesome to get some more modern style reviews.
Still not sure what I am. I might be a soft gamine or soft classic. So confused.
I love being TR. my mom is R and sister is G
I'm gonna ask a question?.. is Monica belluci a theatrical romantic?.. i think she has the body type
The body type quiz I got Gamine but on your video I got theatrical romantic
TR with FG is basically my sister and I in every photo lmao. If you wonder how is that possible, I am a TR like my mom, she is a FG like my dad.
I don't see Rachel McAdams short at all
Aly, first of thanks for your courses, they add a lot of interest and spice to a common life, and I learn a lot from them. Just looking this video, and I am just lost just in serious doubt about some of the models for compared styles. The most confusing ones here is Jennifer Aniston who is just 160 (sorry, just skimmed through - she is 164, but still looks rather compact than average) cm high, as I know. And I really tend to consider her a soft gamine. And the most strange thing is with Rihanna. I checked her height with the open sources and got just smashed by the reality - she is nearly 175 cm high. What is there to say at all? She personally tends to use TR styles, but I am 100 per cent sure (or tend to think rather) her real status is either DC or SD. In addition to that, she looks nearly FN (sorry, this is rather SN) on photos of her in the beach - her posture is plainly blunt and is not sophisticated and sharp at all. Plus very long legs and somewhat fattish heaps. Vertical line - all obvious.
Maybe the confusion here is because of her facial traits which look pretty much like theatrical with those curvy lips, beautiful eyes and very vivid strong outline of the face. My guess is that her devotion to TR solutions are based on her being a black person with bright ethnic culture roots, which are all about theatrical romantic details and embellishments. Just a tradition, fortified by her status of a Black Diva on stage - this demands some sort of theatrical effects to sing things she sings, and the specifics of her particular audience as well... Plus she looks stunning in relaxed, free, waving garments akin to naturals. At least for me...Could you persuade me I am wrong? Thank you, again.
I know there are people in the field who seized to attribute Kibbe styles with regard to dimensions matter and rather look at the overall picture of a person. Although I cannot still digest this approach...
Rachel McAdams is no where close to TR according to David Kibbe...I also wouldn't use Rihanna as an example. She's highly controversial being 5'8, there are just much better examples to use.
Exactly!
I wonder what Rihanna is bc she should fit into the Soft dramatic but she looks too delicate when in comparing to the SD
I don't think Jada Pinkett-Smith is TR either.
Only height does not make a new completely body type. Rihanna is a great example even though she is tall, she has all the other TR characteristics.
@@SusanaLezcano I gonna have to disagree with you because next to Selma Hayek who is a verified TR, Rihanna has obvious vertical and a narrow and sharp bone structure with round flesh. Selma looks more delicate and petite. Kibbe unverified her because he hasn't seen her in person. I personally have never seen TR in her.
I thought I was a soft gamine at first because of my features but I think I’m more of a TR from watching this.
I'm pretty sure im a tr. The footwear is challenging. I like chunky shoes and boots but they don't suit me at all. I don't want to sacrifice walkability...I often walk far and don't want any footwear that wouldn't stand up to that, but I wouldn't mind some that looked good on me too. It's really hard.
Your videos always help me :) I've thought I am a Soft Gamine because I am not curvy, but recently I found out that I was a Romantic. I figured body type is not my style or personal essence. It is based on how much yin/yang you have in your bone structure and body lines. I am petite have small bust, but my bone structure and flesh is very much yin(Romantic) Because many instructions of Kibbe Type have described Romantics womanly, curvy, mature, and sensual women, I didn't know I was a Romantic. I think this is what we should be careful. :) Now I know I'm not a gamine! :)
And I also think you are a Theatrical Romantic, Aly. You looked really nice with TR dress and makeups in some other video I saw :)
Edit: I think Aly is Soft Classic. I saw Hayden Panettiere's pictures. I think she's SC. And she reminds me of Aly.
what you say is interesting. I was told once from this pic attached I may be SG. I am 5'2 with small breasts, size 8/10 with some curves but also sort of broad shoulders. Now I think I could be SG, R, TR or SN from watching different videos from Aly. Of all the wardrobes, without even knowing these types, I dress R and C perhaps my French heritage is showing. I defo look good in sexy bodycon, fitted dresses. I wish Aly offered a paid service to tell us our type :)
@@froufou100 thank for comment. That is interesting. :) I found that I was not a R, but SC, today. I am 5'1 so I thought I wasn't a SC because I'm petite. I'm even thinking that might be a reason why I have small breasts and not defined waistline... Hope it helps! I once thought I was a SG because of my height but Gamine's wardrobes didn't work for me...
@@hessed8198 sorry for the late reply. How did you find out you are SC and not R? I joined a FB group and quite a few people said C but like you I am petite. Actually, I have also been labelled SG, TR and SN - so confusing. Some people think some fo these are actually my essence instead of body type so although I am making progress, I am still not sure what is the main ID I should out for buying a new winter coat :)
I love these videos!! I have very odd features, I feel like I fit into none and all categories. 🤣 I have a larger bulbous nose, thin lips, downturned eyes, a diamond shaped face but not a strong chin, sloped shoulders, but a boxy figure with soft flesh and some muscle. Slight waist definition, and I am short waisted. I'm right in the center of the height spectrum. People do think I'm taller and weigh less than I do though. It's very odd, so I've been binge watching videos to try to narrow it down. 💚 Anybody else kind of stuck in the middle like me?
If you’re perceived as taller than you have a tall vertical line, which means you’re probably one of the yang types. If you’re also a bit boxy you should probably look into the natural types: flamboyant ideas you’re “dry” in the flesh as Aly describes it and soft your flesh is lush.
@@FilippaSkog thank you!! You are a life saver!! 💚💚💚
Theatrical romantic vs soft natural I think is kind of hard to tell sometimes
I think I’m a theatrical romantic 😳
Me 2...lol
Could you do a video addressing how to coordinate elements if your face and body are different types? I'm definitely some kind of gamine overall, but sometimes what looks best on my body seems to clash with my face or vice-versa
I am 5'5 and a quarter and thought that i was a TR...am i wrong?
I still don't know if i am TR or Romantic
Yes, im confused among soft gamine, FG and TR. Im soft, not voluptuous but a slight hourglass. My shoulders are straight, answer A and have hip dips plus wide hand and feet (soft). Other than this all the faicial fetures are yin. Small bones and very delicate wrists, ankels elbows, and knees. Delicate looking. I look slightly straight with clothes on but without them i have clear waist emphasis with wider hips. What the hell am i?!
I thought im soft gamine but i look SO bad in short hairs!! Plus, i think i look childish in soft gamine outfits. Hairs are the only reason i think im not FG or even Soft gamine.
Can someone explain what i might be??
P.S. im 21 y/o, and i don't think i'm voluptuous like TR. To delicate for SN too. ☹️
You're still very young. I think you should wait until you're 25 to settle with an ID. Now it's the moment to play around with styles!
FYI your still growing ...your bone structure isn’t complete
@@wandaarnt234 i remember aly saying 21- 22 is the age when your ID is determined.
I was analyzed as theatrical romantic by David Kibbe, i was a hair stylist for his workshops in the 90s,after working with him for a month I became a dramatic gamin,I am dramatic gamine
I have a little sharpness in shoulders, cheekbones , maybe my nose because its quite narrow and up turned and my forehead and jawline are narrow (im a diamond face shape, but with rounded angles) i have long legs for my short height (im 5'3 with a 30 inch leg), i have very curvy legs, feet and wide hips. Small head , petite bones , narrow small child like hands, soft flesh , narrow waist , soft and full lips, full cheeks and big roundish up turned eyes. Im a Theatrical romantic , this is my yin yang mix , you dont have to look the exact same but be of a similar mix of yin and yang (mostly yin). hope this helps someone .
I’m a TR but 5’7???? My legs and arms look so much shorter though as all my height is my torso and i have a much smaller waist than my shoulders and hips…. I think im not a true R as i have angles in my shoulders and face… i think.
hmm, Jada Pinkett would be more of a gamine to me.
I agree. She used to have a tiny, boyish frame. I think she's modified her figure.
@@desic3274 Absolutely! If Aly saw her body from her A Different World days I think she would put her in the gamine category. Looks like she may have had breast augmentation and toned herself up, which makes her look slightly "thicker" now lol
I thought I was the only one who thought this! Especially when watching "Set It Off" - that scene where she goes to the dinner with Blair Underwood in the evening dress, always reminds me of Aly's description where she says "like a little girl in her mama's clothes"! And her most popular phase was when she had that short cropped hair cut!
It can be hard with these celebrities because they get so much work done that it can change their natural body types. Like Kim Kardashian with all the stuff she's done to her butt and her body it makes her look like more of a romantic but she's actually theatrical romantic.
I was looking for this! I’ve been saying this in other videos. I think she is a pure gamine. She looks so harmonious with very short hair, bright broken lines, and delicate but perky makeup. That reflects pure gamine to me.
I don't know what am I. 😭 I am 169 cm in height, so am I too tall for TR? My features are soft, my body shape is hourglass with theatrical shoulders and face structure... I guess I'll never know.
Do you look shorter than you actually are in photos? Do your romantic features stand out in photos with other women (especially if they’re less romantic and more dramatic)? As in, does your curviness really stand out? If so I think you could be TR :)
What really matters is whether you can pull off the softly ornate, perfectly-curled hair and the form-fitting, feminine clothes. If those look the best on you who is to tell you that you aren’t tr? Rihanna is 5’8 and apparently one, so though I don’t remember the conversion rate taller theatrical romantics definitely exist ^^
So maby SD? These types often look similar
I am 168 and definitely TR, and I don't think we both are tall. 180 is "tall" for me :)
I’m 167cm and a TR 🙂