See how much time and work goes into the complete restoration of a steam train for the Sumpter Valley Railroad in Eastern Oregon (Produced by Ed Cushman).
Absolutely incredible!! Taking a rusted, non-working steam engine and restoring it to a beautiful piece of working machinery!! Many thanks to the volunteers for bringing number 19 back to life. Great video!!
Just a a technical nit-pick: The part that was being made was cast, NOT forged. Forging is where you take a chunk of metal, heat it up, and hammer it into the correct shape.
@@brett-westgrove-country-music Yep. You can now cast some steels that are as strong as forged steel was 40 years ago but it is still a casting. And if you use a harden-able steel, they can really be a pain to machine unless you anneal them first.
@@royklopfenstein5278 I used to have an HP business quality inkjet copier scanner printer. It could even pick up the micro printing on the bills. When I got rid of it I even removed the Z-80 chip that ran it so that it could never be used again.
Seeing them work inside the boiler with an air hammer and no ear protection made me cringe. That must've been mind numbingly loud.Amazing work none the less, and a well made video, thanks for sharing.
OSHA existed in '92. I'm sure they all had foamies in their ears. They're hard to see but they were evident in some shots. And, they were mostly all volunteers so it's not like the evil masters were forcing them to work in unsafe conditions.
A restoration accomplished with care and precision. Not an easy task especially since there was no overhead crane available to lift the boiler off of the wheel sets. It's good to see that some sort of space age polymer was used in place of hazardous asbestos for the boiler jacketing. All in all an end result well worth the investment of time and effort.
I wish I would have seen this when it was first put up. I've been a fan of trains since I was a young kid. What I like even more is to see old steam locomotives brought back to life. The complexity of steam engines amazed me.
+Arvind Mallya not specific but this page will state that #19 was restored in the 90's. It would have been nice if this was done in HD but HD probably was not an option back then. trainpages.blogspot.com/2015/07/100th-anniversary-of-portland-union.html
+treestump flyer Thanks, I'm so impressed with my American colleagues of how a community of friends come together and restore a priceless treasure for generations to come and enjoy. Last weekend I went to a place where they were building a wooden ship in Marin from an old design and it was for young kids to participate.
these guys volunteer their time which means they do it because they have passion. They have passion for trains, the railroad and to their community. The ORHF would be a great place to volunteer. Too bad I don't live closer.
Hard work, dedication by a group of steam engine enthusiasts have restored this beauty, awesome work & thank you..our past iron should never be forgotten & whenever i see a steam train i feel a peaceful calm & joy when riding on one...just perfection how they built the old iron.
Thank you for a most interesting video. This restoration has been a true engineering labour of enthusiasm and love by a dedicated team of skilled personell. Great to see the older skills involved to bring it all together. As a retired Aircraft Engineer in the UK familiar with "light" maching, riveting, metal shaping etc. this is a real eye opener of the bigger stuff !
+Henry Taysom About 15,000 people have viewed this video so far. It is really interesting. I can see why they went to diesel electric, though. It must cost a small fortune to rebuild one of these machines.
This has to be one of the best steam engine restoration videos I have ever had the pleasure to watch, I especially loved how every aspect was narrated and the incredible filmography, you all should be very proud of the work you have done.
Are you sure about that? I thought this Engine was still in use at the Sumpter Valley Railway in Sumpter, Oregon as a weekly tourist train ride during summer months.
LOL! You'd think. Then again, I used to own a 63 Cadillac hearse ambulance, & I can't tell you how many times People would pull out in front of me at intersections. 25 feet long, 8 feet tall at the tip of the roof dome, & a previous owner had painted flames on it. "Sorry, didn't see ya." Some frighteningly unaware individuals running around loose out there. XD
There are rules that apply to when it must be wrung. One of those is when moving inside yard limits. A drifting loco can be quite quiet. Same applies to Diesels and electrics that are not under load.
Americans love their bells and whistles. It is a bit maddening on a video; not so much in real life. One is reminded of the digital road-crossing sirens shrieking away in any video of the Ffestioniog workings in Portmadog. They render any video on that subject pretty much unwatchable. At least the bell on this locomotive is original kit. Let the Americans ring their bells. They give us a lot of preserved steam engines to marvel at.
I only live 50 miles from U.P.'s steam shop. #844, 4-8-4, #3985 Challenger, 4-6-6-4, #4014 Big Boy, 4-8-8-4. I bet you folks would be absolutely overwhelmed by U.P.'s program. BullyBilly.
It blows my mind that these trains were made in a time with no computers what so ever. I can’t even begin to imagine how they even went about such a feat!!
Slide rules, paper, and skull sweat...lots of it. This wasn't done overnight, many incremental changes were made to reach this level of sophistication. Mistakes were made: boilers blew up and people died...such is progress.
The scale of designing one is the real marvel. Remember, they didn't have the tools we have today. They had to have a fleet of engineers working on just designing the parts, a warehous full of people with VERY strong math and spatial reasoning skills who were trained in technical art. They had to measure and draw precicely to the fraction of an inch EVERY SINGLE PART that went into the train. There were also technical drawings of assemblies, such as JUST the piston assembly for the left side, all done so that the idea could be visually rendered. There were likely thousands of technical drawings that all had to be sketched then finalized (usually on special paper) and then hand copied so that they could MAIL the specs to the various factories that forged the parts. On top of that, these guys needed to know what thicknesses of materials to use (usually found out through trial and error experimentation) so that it was strong enough to operate in tolerances, but light enough to not put the train over it's weight budget (weight of train vs it's power output and intended pulling capacity). The assembly is the flashy part, but genuinely the easiest when compared to the sheer labor hours that went into designing these things.
Doyle McCormick. I'd much rather sit down with you and have a cold one than with the President of the United States. What an honor that would be. I worked in a round house before but on diesel locomotives and coal cars. Interesting crew and video. Thanks for sharing it with us.
+Robert Davis If the president comes to Portland what would I be doing? Trains or the Pres. Hot steam, the mass of heavy metal, the symphony of the tracks and the wale of the whistle or the mutterings of politics. It's a no brainer.
Thank you so much! This brought back memories from when I was a trainee. At Koedoespoort in Pretoria there was a huge railway repair workshop where enormous overhead cranes would pick up complete locomotives and move them to other parts of the shop. In the casting shop there were still Bessemer converters in operation! A spectacular site, but hugely polluting. Here I learnt to make castings using sand. The sand was hardened with CO2 before the metal was introduced. In the forging shop we used steam hammers to make pokers but the artisans made complete conrods for the locomotives from a solid billet of steel. I hope this loco is doing well as it could last for ever with love and care.
This is amazing. We need to preserve relics of past era's. The best inventions of early industry are slipping away. Without knowledge of the early days. Tomorrow's generation is in trouble. Congratulations to the men who rebuilt this amazing machine. Your a breed of men that is almost non existent these days.
Hesston steam park is a pretty cool place in Northern Indiana. I have a lot of respect for the people who work there. They are not payed, they volunteer. Just to preserve these beautiful relics.
I've loved steam engines since 1957. I'm really happy to see them brought back to life and many I've seen here on UA-cam. The best yet was the Union Pacific #4014 Big Boy. I have a Rivarossi HO scale Big Boy.
I'm 55 so I too young to have witnessed steamers in service but the first steam engine I saw was when the Freedom Train came to Dunsmuir and it was amazing! I also love articulated/Mallet type locos which your Big Boy is. Oddly enough, I own a few HO scale articulated steam engines and love them! The SP AC series is my favorite but the UP's are great as well and I have a few of those also.
Dan I enjoyed this video, oh by the way, my Grand Father was a driver of an coal train out of West Virginia coal mines to the Steel mills on the East coast back in the 1930's he and his brother another driver both died on the job, I never knew them. So I feel a special understanding of the sheer weight of these locomotives. I hope to see more of your videos. Thanks Again, George Holt
What an interesting family history! I'd love it if you wrote a book...I would certainly read it! Just imagine how different the world was for them and what their lives might have been like. Love your comment Mr. Holt.
fascinating train and rebuild.. so happy it's all in the past, as otherwise this would have been rioted and looted front and back, hence the aspect of Portland and 100 years historical anniversary celebration 41:31
Hope you have more on Oregon RR's, I am a fan of all roads of Oregon, the Northern Pacific, Great Northern, Milwaukee Rd and others that ran here in Oregon. Grew up watching an old Great Northern steam locomotive, I believe it was a 2-4-0 not sure of the manufacture, going through town on the way to Dollar Camp, Sweet Home and other lumber towns of the area. Used to get a thrill out of watching the new FA-7 running on the former SP line from Portland to Eugene and points south. Loved to watch the passenger trains and waving to the engineer and passengers. That was a few years before Amtrack or as it has been called locally Slamtrac. Because of some of the early derailments, none were disastrous if I remember right, just cars jumping the tracks. Only remember one serious train car wreck and that was the GN hit a carful of kids who ran the signal. Six kids died in that one. Have been collecting N-gauge trains of the GN, NP, CB&Q, Milwaukie and their descendants. Love this rebuilding of an old loco to new condition. Please have more. Wonder if there are any of the old KNOR locos still out there. I know in the 40s many old locos were scrapped for the war effort and ended up as part of the Liberty ships that were built in Portland/Vancouver yards. Again thank you very much for this video. //es// A 70y/o Lady Railfan.
It's good to know that this train is still running, since they advertised it again for this year: 2017. After spending a million dollars to restore it, I just couldn't imagine scrapping such a valuable piece of hisory. They could never recover that much money just from selling tickets. These folks just enjoy what they are doing.
SVRR used to run from Baker City To Prairie City Oregon. Mixed freight but mostly logs to the mills. Their few miles of tourist track in among the gold dredge piles in the Sumpter valley is a credit to restoration but a poor representation of what that RR once was. They have at least 3 steam engines running these days I think and one diesel on less than 20 Mi of track. My personal favorite is a small wood burning engine from a Baker City lumber company. It's # 3. and perfectly restored. Ya the 19 and her sister 18 are big heavy haulers but the #3 hauled many logs to Ellingston Lumber Co in Baker. The 19 and 18 did the long run over Tipton pass down to Prairie City. Lotta history in that area. The Sumpter gold dredge ran on electric power generated miles away at the Fremont Power House which drew water from a lake 9 mi away through a 3 ft diameter wooden pipe. The dredge ran into the early 50's and the powerhouse supplied power to Sumpter and several local gold mines until the early '60's. Them old 19th century boys made things work!
Great job guy's!! It always brings a tear of joy to my eye when something old and left to decay is given life once more. I know this is hardly an even comparison but, I've brought some old outboard motors back to life. My oldest being a 1924 Johnson. I'm like Doctor Frankenstein in that old movie... "IT'S ALIVE... IT'S ALIVE"!!!!
If the boiler tubes are welded on one end and free floating on the other to accommodate thermal expansion, how do they keep water from leaking at the movable end?
Thank you for posting this, I really enjoyed it. They did a great job. They have casting sand now that has a chemical reaction and it hardens like a rock, I'm surprised they didn't use that stuff for casting the name plate.
alot of hard work went into this project....also a lot of love...these steam engine are beautiful pieces of history....amazing work...hats off to those guys....
I suppose that both locomotives were surveyed to see which had the best boiler. If the boiler shell is eroded below the waterline or the firebox plates are severely wasted there's a point where you have to roll & weld a new boiler or the locomotive stays a corpse in a museum. A better fate than being recycled into razor-blades in China.
As an aircraft engineer I was always taught, and in turn taught that the right tool for the right job, yet in many videos of engineering projects these days it is more commonplace than not to see adjustable spanner’s, makeshift hoists and jacks, and a plethora of non-specific tools and accessories being used, and used incorrectly, sometimes dangerously, there are probably a multitude of reasons for this, one of which is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable enthusiasts tackling jobs that they don’t have the training or experience in doing, yet despite all of this they produce the most remarkable and beautiful end products, so it just goes to show that it’s NOT always necessary to have the right tool, just passion,determination and a lot of very hard work. Wonderful to watch, thanks for sharing this interesting and informative film of some very very dedicated people. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴
I know, I noticed them using the old style monkey wrenches instead of the correct wrench, also no one was wearing mechanics gloves, I guess they like those greasy cuticles. Otherwise, very interesting video except I wish they would have shown the piston/cylinder assemblies and the valve boxes...
Thank you Dan Holt, Ed Cushman and all the other folks, volunteers, and Doyle and his able crew, for walking us through the process. I enjoyed ever minute of it. This is hard work and dirty work, and you have to be a true lover of steam locomotives to jump in and perform these tasks.
american know-how,baby! i personally don't think of steam engines in terms of obsolescence....the remarkable legends of loads,performance,maintenance scheduling and raw industrial skills inspire and imbide a pride that flows straight from and into the american soul!! and just as india too late recognised that the savaging of steam technology on rails was perhaps a great mistake...we should give this remarkable technology a second look!!!j
You are right. A great source of power and you can burn nearly anything for fuel. Only trouble is if one of those coal burners came chugging down the tracks today blowing all that black smoke the environmentalists would go crazy.
My one Grandfather was a Railroad engineer and operated engines exactly like this one, beautiful, incredible. I love how they've got the Caboose on. But what I really find incredible is, as far as I can see, not one of these men are utilizing any hearing protection. (that's something, people used to "not" do) my own father had shop deafness.
Mr. Holt - I don't know what level you were involved with producing this video other than posting it. However, even for that I want to say "A BIG THANK YOU" because it was a fabulous thing to watch. What I would not have given to be part of the team that rebuilt that locomotive. Moreover, I am one that wonders things like: how did they decide operating pressure, predict stress loading on so many components etc ad nauseum - ALL WITHOUT ONE SINGLE COMPUTER other than the one between their ears. Thank you very much. So enjoyable.
They used to do things the old way with just common horse sense. Tom Cleveland, of the Eugene, OR community cable was a friend of the man who made this video and he let me have it for local broadcasting.
Liability comes to mind. If the fireman is sitting on top of the monster don't you think, with all the noise, that he may forget to ring the bell ? Besides, the ambulance chasers won't have any grounds to stand on if it can be proven that the bell was continuously rung !!!
Yes, it's rung by steam. The bell is because the locomotive can be surprisingly quiet. Especially when its coasting, as into a station, it is practically silent. No roaring diesel engine. This happened to me at a railroad museum. The train was coasting into the station past the parking lot and I had my back turned. When the engineer started up the bell and tooted the horn, I almost jumped out of my skin. I hadn't heard it approach, and it was only 10-15 feet behind me.
The bell ringers on the steam engines were normally run with compressed air from the air reservoirs. Same with the power reverse cylinder. Steam could be used as a backup, but since the bell ringer was not used all the time, it would get cold and the steam would condense. In icy conditions the water could freeze and crack the casing. So a lot of the auxiliary equipment was air actuated.
follytowers the bell is a pneumatic clapper rung bell, they no longer use it very often. The power reverse, firebox doors (on a coal burning loco), bell, and a few other labour saving appliances run on air. There are 2 types of air rung bell, the older kind that swings like a hand rung bell, and the post-1920s kind that have just a swinging clapper, that most narrow gauge lines preferred (like the D&RGW K-36s, K-28s, and WP&Y 73).
The jacks used to raise the engine are not hydraulic, they are powered by compressed air which turns a small air motor through many gears to slowly raise or lower what your jacking? The jacks used in this video are a very old design and that type of jack dates back over a 100 years Just an example of how newer types of jacks don't always replace the old school design. They work, no electronics, no electric motors to burn out, In my career on the railroad I've provided air to that style of jack with the wreck train locomotive a single ALCO RS-3 never even raised the throttle it provided all the air for two jacks simultaneously idling. Many railroads still use them today, the policy replace em? Why? You can still buy parts for them so they just buy parts and rebuild them.
These steam locomotives are great machines. It's like he's alive.. You will take care of everything at any moment.. It has been tried very hard and gathered very well.. The people who deal with it are very skillful and very successful. Thank you for these beautiful images. I wish you good health and success. Greetings from Turkey/Izmir.
+The Unknown decepticon Don't know where you live, but this particular steam train is operating every weekend and it is just a little before you get to the old restored Ghost Town of Sumpter, Oregon. There are 2 or 3 more of them in Oregon. A few more states have them. They are very expensive to restore like this one (about a million dollars).
We have the Strasburg railroad in Pa. about two hours west of Philly, I have a friend that volunteers there, if you are near by, I believe they are always looking for an extra set of hands.
Excellent work at rebuilding an old steam locomotive. Now the question is has the Sumter Valley rebuilt her again as by federal law every 15 years you have to tear her down and rebuild her again?
Absolutely incredible!! Taking a rusted, non-working steam engine and restoring it to a beautiful piece of working machinery!! Many thanks to the volunteers for bringing number 19 back to life. Great video!!
Just a a technical nit-pick: The part that was being made was cast, NOT forged. Forging is where you take a chunk of metal, heat it up, and hammer it into the correct shape.
I was thinking the same thing! Details are important.
they just used a really big hammer
@@brett-westgrove-country-music Yep. You can now cast some steels that are as strong as forged steel was 40 years ago but it is still a casting. And if you use a harden-able steel, they can really be a pain to machine unless you anneal them first.
We use fine ink jets for forgery.
@@royklopfenstein5278 I used to have an HP business quality inkjet copier scanner printer. It could even pick up the micro printing on the bills. When I got rid of it I even removed the Z-80 chip that ran it so that it could never be used again.
Seeing them work inside the boiler with an air hammer and no ear protection made me cringe. That must've been mind numbingly loud.Amazing work none the less, and a well made video, thanks for sharing.
Carl Zimmerman .
And all the dust and rust flying and not breathing protection!
And a casting floor with rubber hose tripping hazards. Grinding pipes that are free to roll away.....
OSHA existed in '92. I'm sure they all had foamies in their ears. They're hard to see but they were evident in some shots. And, they were mostly all volunteers so it's not like the evil masters were forcing them to work in unsafe conditions.
To the entire crew: I admire your skills and dedication that you showed to bring this engine back to life. You are true CRAFTSMEN!
A restoration accomplished with care and precision. Not an easy task especially since there was no overhead crane available to lift the boiler off of the wheel sets. It's good to see that some sort of space age polymer was used in place of hazardous asbestos for the boiler jacketing. All in all an end result well worth the investment of time and effort.
These Men Are Strong Hard Working Patriots, Crafts Men, Crackerjack, Machinists,Riggers,And Mechanics, God Bless Them.
Omg, what a labor of love. Congrats to these volunteers. This has to be one of the most interesting videos I have ever watched. Thank you.
17:15 - 'they poured the extra metal in the crucible into ingots' - Heat the ingot molds with a torch next time, saves it spitting all over the floor.
good point
Great Job all, she looks wonderful ,a credit to all involved in her restoration, again, Well Done.
Some people cant even figure out how to change a tire. And these people are restoring a whole freaking train!!!
I can't wait to watch this one, this is my movie for today!👏 🙌 Greetings from Romania! 👋
I wish I would have seen this when it was first put up. I've been a fan of trains since I was a young kid. What I like even more is to see old steam locomotives brought back to life. The complexity of steam engines amazed me.
from a rusted-out sack of scrap to a queen of the rails.........you guys did good work.
my hat's off to ya!
It was fantastic to watch this piece of American history be revived! Great video, thanks for sharing!
The Sumpter Valley Railroad Engine burns wood and runs on a 3' narrow-gauge track.
+Dan Holt when was this video made and restoration done? Looks like 70's or 80's
+Arvind Mallya not specific but this page will state that #19 was restored in the 90's. It would have been nice if this was done in HD but HD probably was not an option back then.
trainpages.blogspot.com/2015/07/100th-anniversary-of-portland-union.html
+treestump flyer Thanks, I'm so impressed with my American colleagues of how a community of friends come together and restore a priceless treasure for generations to come and enjoy. Last weekend I went to a place where they were building a wooden ship in Marin from an old design and it was for young kids to participate.
these guys volunteer their time which means they do it because they have passion. They have passion for trains, the railroad and to their community. The ORHF would be a great place to volunteer. Too bad I don't live closer.
+treestump flyer This roundhouse where they rebuilt the train closed down in 2012, so it's not here anymore.
Hard work, dedication by a group of steam engine enthusiasts have restored this beauty, awesome work & thank you..our past iron should never be forgotten & whenever i see a steam train i feel a peaceful calm & joy when riding on one...just perfection how they built the old iron.
Thank you for a most interesting video. This restoration has been a true engineering labour of enthusiasm and love by a dedicated team of skilled personell. Great to see the older skills involved to bring it all together. As a retired Aircraft Engineer in the UK familiar with "light" maching, riveting, metal shaping etc. this is a real eye opener of the bigger stuff !
+Henry Taysom About 15,000 people have viewed this video so far. It is really interesting. I can see why they went to diesel electric, though. It must cost a small fortune to rebuild one of these machines.
Is great to see that none of the knowledge is gone....be a sad day when that happen....
It shall be rebirthed someday
If you want to build a steam loco it's all here on UA-cam.
This has to be one of the best steam engine restoration videos I have ever had the pleasure to watch, I especially loved how every aspect was narrated and the incredible filmography, you all should be very proud of the work you have done.
This loco has now been cut up for scrap.
Are you sure about that? I thought this Engine was still in use at the Sumpter Valley Railway in Sumpter, Oregon as a weekly tourist train ride during summer months.
ok
This engine was still in use last summer 2016.
It's still in use right now.
I would be driven mad by that bell ringing all the time. Surely the thing is big enough to be seen!
LOL! You'd think. Then again, I used to own a 63 Cadillac hearse ambulance, & I can't tell you how many times People would pull out in front of me at intersections. 25 feet long, 8 feet tall at the tip of the roof dome, & a previous owner had painted flames on it. "Sorry, didn't see ya." Some frighteningly unaware individuals running around loose out there. XD
There are rules that apply to when it must be wrung. One of those is when moving inside yard limits. A drifting loco can be quite quiet. Same applies to Diesels and electrics that are not under load.
You think that's bad,the sound of the dynamo would drive a grown man to tears😊
You certainly wouldn't like a Mississippi Central locomotive then
Americans love their bells and whistles. It is a bit maddening on a video; not so much in real life.
One is reminded of the digital road-crossing sirens shrieking away in any video of the Ffestioniog workings in Portmadog. They render any video on that subject pretty much unwatchable. At least the bell on this locomotive is original kit. Let the Americans ring their bells. They give us a lot of preserved steam engines to marvel at.
Awesome well done restoring history for the future.
I only live 50 miles from U.P.'s steam shop.
#844, 4-8-4,
#3985 Challenger, 4-6-6-4,
#4014 Big Boy, 4-8-8-4.
I bet you folks would be absolutely overwhelmed by U.P.'s program.
BullyBilly.
It blows my mind that these trains were made in a time with no computers what so ever. I can’t even begin to imagine how they even went about such a feat!!
Slide rules, paper, and skull sweat...lots of it. This wasn't done overnight, many incremental changes were made to reach this level of sophistication. Mistakes were made: boilers blew up and people died...such is progress.
The scale of designing one is the real marvel. Remember, they didn't have the tools we have today. They had to have a fleet of engineers working on just designing the parts, a warehous full of people with VERY strong math and spatial reasoning skills who were trained in technical art. They had to measure and draw precicely to the fraction of an inch EVERY SINGLE PART that went into the train. There were also technical drawings of assemblies, such as JUST the piston assembly for the left side, all done so that the idea could be visually rendered. There were likely thousands of technical drawings that all had to be sketched then finalized (usually on special paper) and then hand copied so that they could MAIL the specs to the various factories that forged the parts. On top of that, these guys needed to know what thicknesses of materials to use (usually found out through trial and error experimentation) so that it was strong enough to operate in tolerances, but light enough to not put the train over it's weight budget (weight of train vs it's power output and intended pulling capacity). The assembly is the flashy part, but genuinely the easiest when compared to the sheer labor hours that went into designing these things.
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This is one of the few videos I watched from beginning to end!
I love to watch steam restorations..
LOL Same! I normally won't watch 1 Hour videos... If my research is right, this video is about 25 years old?!!
Outstanding.....She is new again thanks so much....From Kentucky
60 tons? Big boy is 600 tons. Seems kind of medieval compared to Cheyenne.
BullyBilly.
Doyle McCormick. I'd much rather sit down with you and have a cold one than with the President of the United States. What an honor that would be. I worked in a round house before but on diesel locomotives and coal cars. Interesting crew and video. Thanks for sharing it with us.
+Robert Davis If the president comes to Portland what would I be doing? Trains or the Pres. Hot steam, the mass of heavy metal, the symphony of the tracks and the wale of the whistle or the mutterings of politics. It's a no brainer.
+Robert Davis You're right. These old steamers are really fun. I've had the opportunity to ride a few of them myself.
You're about the 3rd or 4th person who has noticed that error. Probably most of us wouldn't ever know about it.
Supter Valley Railway 2-8-2 Mikado #19 was saved from the scrapyard.
Thank you so much! This brought back memories from when I was a trainee. At Koedoespoort in Pretoria there was a huge railway repair workshop where enormous overhead cranes would pick up complete locomotives and move them to other parts of the shop.
In the casting shop there were still Bessemer converters in operation! A spectacular site, but hugely polluting. Here I learnt to make castings using sand. The sand was hardened with CO2 before the metal was introduced.
In the forging shop we used steam hammers to make pokers but the artisans made complete conrods for the locomotives from a solid billet of steel.
I hope this loco is doing well as it could last for ever with love and care.
Really terrific documentary. The narration was excellent.
How old is that forklift? It could probably use a restoration too.
Steam still escapes me....i get it, but aint got it, yet.
Me: I love Steam Engines. They make me comfortable.
As a first class steam engineer I love steam engines
In 2:42 the guy looks to be the SP 4449 engineer.
It is that’s Doyle McCormack
This is amazing. We need to preserve relics of past era's. The best inventions of early industry are slipping away. Without knowledge of the early days. Tomorrow's generation is in trouble. Congratulations to the men who rebuilt this amazing machine. Your a breed of men that is almost non existent these days.
Hesston steam park is a pretty cool place in Northern Indiana. I have a lot of respect for the people who work there. They are not payed, they volunteer. Just to preserve these beautiful relics.
Imagine how big of a lathe you need to put those wheels on in order to get the pits out.
I’ve moved a lathe that big when I worked for a rigging company
@ 17:39. That's a cast part, not a forged part.
I've loved steam engines since 1957. I'm really happy to see them brought back to life and many I've seen here on UA-cam. The best yet was the Union Pacific #4014 Big Boy. I have a Rivarossi HO scale Big Boy.
4014 is highly over rated and hyped
I'm 55 so I too young to have witnessed steamers in service but the first steam engine I saw was when the Freedom Train came to Dunsmuir and it was amazing! I also love articulated/Mallet type locos which your Big Boy is. Oddly enough, I own a few HO scale articulated steam engines and love them! The SP AC series is my favorite but the UP's are great as well and I have a few of those also.
I think that the Pennsylvania S1 is better than the Big Boy. Too bad the S1 was scrapped.
The guy's did a, great Awsome job of The old girl of brining The 19 back life nothing sounds better of listen to her whistle blow Great job guy's
Awesome love it very much all the hard work and a great team management
I love this video I always come to this video for a few years now and I just love it...
not a job it's a hobby
Dan I enjoyed this video, oh by the way, my Grand Father was a driver of an coal train out of West Virginia coal mines to the Steel mills on the East coast back in the 1930's he and his brother another driver both died on the job, I never knew them. So I feel a special understanding of the sheer weight of these locomotives. I hope to see more of your videos. Thanks Again, George Holt
What an interesting family history! I'd love it if you wrote a book...I would certainly read it! Just imagine how different the world was for them and what their lives might have been like. Love your comment Mr. Holt.
When I worked at the Brooklyn yard I put in a lot of volunteer time working on this locomotive, Doyle was a great guy.
Thank you for your contribution! It was amazing to watch this beauty come back to life! I just wish I could see her and go for a ride!
Great work. Shows the determination to preserve the past, which is so beautiful and innocent.
Oh wow the daylight 4449 is also in repairs there.
fascinating train and rebuild.. so happy it's all in the past, as otherwise this would have been rioted and looted front and back, hence the aspect of Portland and 100 years historical anniversary celebration 41:31
The narrative style of this film is so nice, no drama, cussing,and general bs, it is very nice to listen to.
Hope you have more on Oregon RR's, I am a fan of all roads of Oregon, the Northern Pacific, Great Northern, Milwaukee Rd and others that ran here in Oregon. Grew up watching an old Great Northern steam locomotive, I believe it was a 2-4-0 not sure of the manufacture, going through town on the way to Dollar Camp, Sweet Home and other lumber towns of the area. Used to get a thrill out of watching the new FA-7 running on the former SP line from Portland to Eugene and points south. Loved to watch the passenger trains and waving to the engineer and passengers. That was a few years before Amtrack or as it has been called locally Slamtrac. Because of some of the early derailments, none were disastrous if I remember right, just cars jumping the tracks. Only remember one serious train car wreck and that was the GN hit a carful of kids who ran the signal. Six kids died in that one. Have been collecting N-gauge trains of the GN, NP, CB&Q, Milwaukie and their descendants. Love this rebuilding of an old loco to new condition. Please have more. Wonder if there are any of the old KNOR locos still out there. I know in the 40s many old locos were scrapped for the war effort and ended up as part of the Liberty ships that were built in Portland/Vancouver yards. Again thank you very much for this video. //es// A 70y/o Lady Railfan.
That's what I call : Labor of love.
The #19 was rebuilt in the Brooklyn Roundhouse in Portland, Oregon in 1990. Since then the Brooklyn Roundhouse has been closed.
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It has been demolished and now this loco was loss making so it has been cut up for scrap.
Completely false.
It's good to know that this train is still running, since they advertised it again for this year: 2017. After spending a million dollars to restore it, I just couldn't imagine scrapping such a valuable piece of hisory. They could never recover that much money just from selling tickets. These folks just enjoy what they are doing.
I saw it on a website this loco was scrapped quite recently.
That boiler is more fire tube volume than water volume. Interesting.
"Паровозик из Ромашково"? Уважаю энтузиастов, которые восстанавливают старую технику. Удачи всем.
Too bad the cast emblem was mounted crooked.
How difficult to regauge the locomotive to 4' 8-1/2" ? (Was it not a standard gaugengine to whicharrow gauge wheels were fitted?)
Sorry I'm very late, but the engine was narrow gauge. All the tracks you see it run on are 3 FT apart
SVRR used to run from Baker City To Prairie City Oregon. Mixed freight but mostly logs to the mills. Their few miles of tourist track in among the gold dredge piles in the Sumpter valley is a credit to restoration but a poor representation of what that RR once was. They have at least 3 steam engines running these days I think and one diesel on less than 20 Mi of track. My personal favorite is a small wood burning engine from a Baker City lumber company. It's # 3. and perfectly restored. Ya the 19 and her sister 18 are big heavy haulers but the #3 hauled many logs to Ellingston Lumber Co in Baker. The 19 and 18 did the long run over Tipton pass down to Prairie City. Lotta history in that area. The Sumpter gold dredge ran on electric power generated miles away at the Fremont Power House which drew water from a lake 9 mi away through a 3 ft diameter wooden pipe. The dredge ran into the early 50's and the powerhouse supplied power to Sumpter and several local gold mines until the early '60's. Them old 19th century boys made things work!
Great job guy's!! It always brings a tear of joy to my eye when something old and left to decay is given life once more. I know this is hardly an even comparison but, I've brought some old outboard motors back to life. My oldest being a 1924 Johnson. I'm like Doctor Frankenstein in that old movie... "IT'S ALIVE... IT'S ALIVE"!!!!
I really enjoyed seeing the old girl come back to life and provide so much joy for everyone.
And now Doyle McCormick is working with the Pennsylvania T1 trust. Probably the most ambitious project yet.
Now this is dedication and tenacity at work out of love. My hat's off to you guys. I am so amazed at the work that went into this restoration.
If the boiler tubes are welded on one end and free floating on the other to accommodate thermal expansion, how do they keep water from leaking at the movable end?
Well done. I am saving this video so that my Grandson will understand what makes Thomas tick.
Mark Ferguson What a wonderful thought. Have fun together. I miss the Thomas days with my son. Have fun!!
Thank you for posting this, I really enjoyed it.
They did a great job.
They have casting sand now that has a chemical reaction and it hardens like a rock, I'm surprised they didn't use that stuff for casting the name plate.
Good morning from St John Parish, Louisiana 10 Nov 20.
Just amazing ,, how much work and time to bring it back. 👍👍❤️
I used to watch this all the time a and I would go through like a 100 💯 videos to find this one
It is just so interesting
Fantastic Dedicated ENGINEERS...TRUE MASTERS AT WORK..AN ABSOLUTELY GREAT MENTAL STIMULATING FILM...EXCELLENT WORK..🙏
Brasil parabéns pela recuperacao da maquina o passado no presente e o presente no passado gosto de apresia estas coisas mais uma vêz parabéns show
alot of hard work went into this project....also a lot of love...these steam engine are beautiful pieces of history....amazing work...hats off to those guys....
Wear a mask protect the face of duisty
I suppose that both locomotives were surveyed to see which had the best boiler. If the boiler shell is eroded below the waterline or the firebox plates are severely wasted there's a point where you have to roll & weld a new boiler or the locomotive stays a corpse in a museum.
A better fate than being recycled into razor-blades in China.
As an aircraft engineer I was always taught, and in turn taught that the right tool for the right job, yet in many videos of engineering projects these days it is more commonplace than not to see adjustable spanner’s, makeshift hoists and jacks, and a plethora of non-specific tools and accessories being used, and used incorrectly, sometimes dangerously, there are probably a multitude of reasons for this, one of which is very enthusiastic and knowledgeable enthusiasts tackling jobs that they don’t have the training or experience in doing, yet despite all of this they produce the most remarkable and beautiful end products, so it just goes to show that it’s NOT always necessary to have the right tool, just passion,determination and a lot of very hard work. Wonderful to watch, thanks for sharing this interesting and informative film of some very very dedicated people. 😀👍🇬🇧🏴
I know, I noticed them using the old style monkey wrenches instead of the correct wrench, also no one was wearing mechanics gloves, I guess they like those greasy cuticles. Otherwise, very interesting video except I wish they would have shown the piston/cylinder assemblies and the valve boxes...
Thank you Dan Holt, Ed Cushman and all the other folks, volunteers, and Doyle and his able crew, for walking us through the process. I enjoyed ever minute of it. This is hard work and dirty work, and you have to be a true lover of steam locomotives to jump in and perform these tasks.
Running this engine turned out to be loss making and it has been cut up for scrap now.
Honestly, are you jealous of a steam locomotive?
John ______ This loco has now been ripped apart for scrap. I love smashing up shit and scrapping stuff.
Thank goodness for people that work on these bless you so awesome
Its amazing the old loco steam engine overhauled by profesional engineers
my grandpa drove that train
he is an engineer
american know-how,baby! i personally don't think of steam engines in terms of obsolescence....the remarkable legends of loads,performance,maintenance scheduling and raw industrial skills inspire and imbide a pride that flows straight from and into the american soul!! and just as india too late recognised that the savaging of steam technology on rails was perhaps a great mistake...we should give this remarkable technology a second look!!!j
You are right. A great source of power and you can burn nearly anything for fuel. Only trouble is if one of those coal burners came chugging down the tracks today blowing all that black smoke the environmentalists would go crazy.
what fuel did they burn in the engine? it can't have been coal there was no smoke . . and nobody shovelling.
In another video about the Sumpter Railroad Story you can see them loading small logs of wood into the train to burn for fuel.
Super video! Mir gefällt das, obwohl ich ein Mädchen bin)
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Purely non-digital
My one Grandfather was a Railroad engineer and operated engines exactly like this one, beautiful, incredible. I love how they've got the Caboose on. But what I really find incredible is, as far as I can see, not one of these men are utilizing any hearing protection. (that's something, people used to "not" do) my own father had shop deafness.
Anyone who is wondering if this train is still running it is heres there offical site sumptervalleyrailroad.org/index.html
Thanks, Elwood, for sharing this with us. I see they are running 2 trips a day on July weekends in 2018.
Mr. Holt - I don't know what level you were involved with producing this video other than posting it. However, even for that I want to say "A BIG THANK YOU" because it was a fabulous thing to watch. What I would not have given to be part of the team that rebuilt that locomotive. Moreover, I am one that wonders things like: how did they decide operating pressure, predict stress loading on so many components etc ad nauseum - ALL WITHOUT ONE SINGLE COMPUTER other than the one between their ears. Thank you very much. So enjoyable.
They used to do things the old way with just common horse sense. Tom Cleveland, of the Eugene, OR community cable was a friend of the man who made this video and he let me have it for local broadcasting.
Lainbotham ....READ THE COMMENT SIR .
Nice to see the old loco under steam again how much is it worth now
Jimmy, It cost about a million dollars to restore it and it's probably worth that or more by now. I don't know for sure.
Thanks for the reply Something that cant be replaced adds on the value they are not made anymore something that can be built again given the money
19 is now 100 years old...
what a great job. Glad to see craftsman of there caliber still able to do these kind of undertakings !
Why anyone would give a thumbs down on any steam locomotive restoration is beyond me. Beautiful job.👍
Presumably the bell is rung by steam power, but why all the time? surely you can see and hear that coming!
Liability comes to mind. If the fireman is sitting on top of the monster don't you think, with all the noise, that he may forget to ring the bell ? Besides, the ambulance chasers won't have any grounds to stand on if it can be proven that the bell was continuously rung !!!
Yes, it's rung by steam. The bell is because the locomotive can be surprisingly quiet. Especially when its coasting, as into a station, it is practically silent. No roaring diesel engine. This happened to me at a railroad museum. The train was coasting into the station past the parking lot and I had my back turned. When the engineer started up the bell and tooted the horn, I almost jumped out of my skin. I hadn't heard it approach, and it was only 10-15 feet behind me.
The bell ringers on the steam engines were normally run with compressed air from the air reservoirs. Same with the power reverse cylinder. Steam could be used as a backup, but since the bell ringer was not used all the time, it would get cold and the steam would condense. In icy conditions the water could freeze and crack the casing. So a lot of the auxiliary equipment was air actuated.
follytowers the bell is a pneumatic clapper rung bell, they no longer use it very often. The power reverse, firebox doors (on a coal burning loco), bell, and a few other labour saving appliances run on air. There are 2 types of air rung bell, the older kind that swings like a hand rung bell, and the post-1920s kind that have just a swinging clapper, that most narrow gauge lines preferred (like the D&RGW K-36s, K-28s, and WP&Y 73).
The continual bell is crazy. Steam locomotives in the rest of he world get on quite well without a continual bell.
The jacks used to raise the engine are not hydraulic, they are powered by compressed air which turns a small air motor through many gears to slowly raise or lower what your jacking? The jacks used in this video are a very old design and that type of jack dates back over a 100 years
Just an example of how newer types of jacks don't always replace the old school design. They work, no electronics, no electric motors to burn out,
In my career on the railroad I've provided air to that style of jack with the wreck train locomotive a single ALCO RS-3 never even raised the throttle it provided all the air for two jacks simultaneously idling. Many railroads still use them today, the policy replace em? Why? You can still buy parts for them so they just buy parts and rebuild them.
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These steam locomotives are great machines. It's like he's alive.. You will take care of everything at any moment.. It has been tried very hard and gathered very well.. The people who deal with it are very skillful and very successful. Thank you for these beautiful images. I wish you good health and success. Greetings from Turkey/Izmir.
Just imagine how they did it back in 1920, mindblowing!
Super Video...thumbs up!
Caste not forged
The bet that had me laughing the most was "I don't think it's going to fit"
I wanna take part in something like this at least once in my lifetime
+The Unknown decepticon Don't know where you live, but this particular steam train is operating every weekend and it is just a little before you get to the old restored Ghost Town of Sumpter, Oregon. There are 2 or 3 more of them in Oregon. A few more states have them. They are very expensive to restore like this one (about a million dollars).
We have the Strasburg railroad in Pa. about two hours west of Philly, I have a friend that volunteers there, if you are near by, I believe they are always looking for an extra set of hands.
They're building a Pennsy T1 locomotive from scratch in PA. You could check them out.
Great video. Greetings from Germany.
Excellent work at rebuilding an old steam locomotive.
Now the question is has the Sumter Valley rebuilt her again as by federal law every 15 years you have to tear her down and rebuild her again?
She's operating in 2020 so it has been redone at least once.