I'm an Agent Orange baby. The first child conceived when my father came back. He died of lung cancer when I was six, and I began a life without a father and without good health. I have had many rare disorders that affect my kidneys and lungs. By age 36 I was permanently disabled by advanced endometriosis and fibromyalgia. This was after surgery, medication, acupuncture, and all other possibilities were ventured. Since there is no cure for endometriosis except surgery (which I had), I live in pain every second of every day, and many doctors have told me I'm crazy to blame agent orange (even though they have no other reason for why I have this disease)! My father knew he had cancer and that he was dying, but he chose to not go through treatments and continue working for the military until the day he died. Like a good soldier he was sacrificed.
Vets of ww1 and ww2 were treated like heroes, and Vietnam vets were treated like trash, people don't blame the vets if vietnam, blame the higher ups who lied to the vets about the herbicides.
SultrySelket WOW. I only have uncles/cousins who served in Vietnam, but I too, have been completely disabled by fibromyalgia. I had severe endometriosis with 4+ laser surgeries 🙄 culminating with a complete hysterectomy at age 32. I’m 52 now. I live in constant pain and crushing, soul-sucking fatigue ... I can take Tylenol! 🙄🙄🙄 yay! The doctors don’t care. At this point, they just ignore my pain, but they sure still take my money. I’ve shut down almost completely. Nobody understands. I have no life except for educating myself and trying to wake others up. To the person who said to prepare documents and this and that, WE’RE TOO EXHAUSTED to barely think, much less try and do all that. We need advocates to fight. WE have been taken OUT. Btw, there is dioxin in tampons and pads ... I never, ever heard this until I looked into agent orange. Monsanto’s pesticides are in our food, fluoride is in our water, deadly adjuvants are in their vaccines, their medications (especially antidepressants!) do more harm than good, etc etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
@@kaleeshsynth9994 in WWII, the soldiers and Marines in the pacific were given meth. to keep them up 24/7. meth was invented in a lab by the government OK. many vets came back addicted to smokes and drugs and alcohol.
I like you was conceived after my Dad returned from Vietnam. I have been disabled for 7 years now and struggle every day but I am supposed to suck it up and live a country who kills it’s citizens? I have a rare immune disorder and had a cyst removed from my brainstem three years ago and am just existing. Disability pays me which I am lucky to receive it but I would rather have my health back and be able to work. Sad for many and it took me many years to realize that this cyst was not a birth defect but from an infection or exposure caused by a faulty gene passed on from my Dad.
I cried while watching this presentation! My husband passed away on Jan 31, 2012 he served in Vietnam from Dec 1969 to Dec 1970 on land doing logistics between Hw MACV and US Naval Forces traveling on military bases within the Republic of Vietnam. He was diagnosed with rare and aggressive cancer only found in the lungs but lodged on bladder. My husband filed for claim on AO but have been denied. Fortunately, he requested time to present more evidence that is why I am continuing his fight with the VA. I am not sure how this will end. This case is on its 8th year. It is just too painful and I feel how your mom felt for her loss.
The rep from AmVets did a fantastic job putting together my appeal of a downgrade. She was also 20% service-connected disabled, so she knew what to do and how to do it. I highly recommend using a VSO like AmVets for any appeal-related matters.
Wow! A few years ago my friend died of Agent Orange I was a little girl at the time I remember the rash on his legs! He did three tours... on his last tour he was ruins it he lost an eye and had a metal plate in his head! He passed away a few years ago all he received was $3,000 his funeral was paid by a family member! His diagnosis with cirrhosis of the liver however, he did not drink! Almost 40 years later it was just recently that I found out and educated myself on this horrific destructible disease of this chemical I am so going down the rabbit hole!
Young man, I watched your story, I am 53, I am crying now, even after all these years. My father, 1st. Lt. John Elvin Scribner, USMC, served in '68 in Dong Ho, he came home and passed away Jan, '69 at the age of 37, the cause was listed as pulmonary pneumonia, in '89 my mother received a form letter telling her his death was directly linked to exposure to agent Orange, in '05 she received a presentation of the order of the purple rose. I never got to know my father, his passing left a huge hole for my mother and 8 kids for almost 50 years now, I feel yours and the man you interviewed pain
I too am suffering from the effects of AO. I was in Vietnam '70 - '71. I was in the AF as an Air Policeman. Same thing as an Army MP. I was on the fence lines and sprayed AO to kill weeds growing in and around the fences. I got soaked with AO. Prior to going to Vietnam I was in excellent health. A year after coming home I started falling apart. First it was heart problems. My heart wasn't beating right. Years later I was diagnosed with MGUS which is a precursor to Multiple Myeloma. Next I developed Peripheral Neuropathy. Now I have very little feeling in my feet and my hands are starting to tingle. I also developed an Aortic Aneurysm and now I need surgery to repair it before it kills me. I am rated 100% disabled by the VA. I decided to file an AO claim and went to see a veterans representative. He told me if I filed the VA could take my benefits away. I am going to file anyway and if they take my benefits away I am going to sue them.
Semper Fi Moose! And Chris, Mike, and Mom: sorry that your family lost their man. As a Gulf War Marine vet, I felt many different emotions while watching this. Proud to be a Marine (ferociously) but not happy with how so many vets get swept under the rug when something goes south like this and no one will claim responsibility. Your film made me think of parallels to my experience (we were injected with experimental anthrax vaccines - but only told the "experimental" part after the fact), as well as similar stories of others who have and are still dealing with related sufferings from poisoning while serving. Camp Lejeune's entire population from a certain era is facing this right now...and getting nowhere. Coupled with what I learned to fix my later health issues, regarding chemicals and their mixing...too much to convey in one message for me. Just glad you're giving it another voice. As your friend and someone's who's watched your filmmaking career grow: this is the best work I've seen yet. Very high production quality. Well formatted. Great graphics. Well timed music overlays. And the fact that you've chosen such a mission is admirable. It takes guts to go interview people and it takes guts to string the story together, then decide what to edit out,what to keep, etc. I am truly impressed with what you've done. I am truly excited as I watch your journey unfold. I'm glad we met! Ken
I’m a second generation Marine and Nam Vet, Chu Lai 68-69 1st MAW MAG 12. I was absolutely lucky to be on an air base and I’m very thankful. My dad was in from 38-46 and served in the South Pacific. Where he was at or what he did, I didn’t know. He never talked about it and he passed before I turned 17 and he never saw me join.
@@garybullwinkle6784 The health insurance companies might as well be collectively regarded as the Ministry of Medical Apportionment, ie they effectively choose who lives and dies based on the prerogatives of their business. At least the government would have an obligation to give care and control costs, rather than pursue the profit motive by letting patients die and go bankrupt. Medicare does not control your health care it just pays for it, you still visit privately operated clinics and doctors, it just means you pay taxes rather than insurance costs. Remember that market oligopolies can serve as a form of governance as powerful as the government itself.
Henry Kissinger kept the war going for another 4 years for his personal political gain and got a Nobel Peace Prize ,millions die because of this War Criminal .
Well done, Christopher. You've done a great thing in making this documentary. I'm an Australian who entertained the troops in the Vietnam War, March 12 to June 7, 1970. I turned 18 just after I was in Dong Ha. The group I was with, The Sydney-Siders, went to every area of (then) South Vietnam. I may well have met your dad. In writing about my experiences in VN some years ago, I discovered we were virtually following the defoliant trail. Our drummer died at the age of 57. He had always looked after his health but suffered damage from chemicals found his liver about thirty years after our tour. Because we are not recognised as Vietnam Veterans, nobody thought to connect the toxins that were completely unconnected with any other part of his life, with Vietnam. Having had children a long time post Vietnam, he left a wife and two young sons. I'm 64, look after my health really well but suffer the effects of Agent Orange/Blue/White etc. I had three miscarriages, have two healthy kids. The first thing I did when they were born (December 1983, January 1988), was check to see whether everything was where it ought to have been, before even seeing which sex they were. Thank you for speaking out. Very best wishes to you, your mother and family. Aviva Sheb'a
My hubby died 18 months ago from several illnesses due to Agent Orange, but mainly a brain tumor caused by it. So many illnesses that are not on the list. We had 31 years together. I guess I was luckier than some to have that much time with him. Dear God, I miss him.
Candace Orr, right now, I'm in a hospital room with my stepdad who is dying from liver cancer from being rained on in the jungle by agent orange. The NSAIDs that the VA gave him made things even worse. He's a super guy. It makes me want to strangle somebody.
@@jeffduncan9140 I'm so sorry. I was angry too. Still am I guess. The treatments my husband received also made things worse. This all just reinforced my opinion on not trusting government. Make sure when your stepfather passes on to contact the VA for your mother to get Survivor benefits. You will need the death certificate to reflect the causes and underlying causes of his death. An advocate for the benefits should walk you through what you need to do. I know it's not about money but your mother should have compensation for her loss. May God give your family peace and comfort.
@@candaceorr7517 I appreciate you, as does my mom. And I will tell her about the survivors benefits, if she doesn't already know. Joe is a pretty squared-away guy. And he has been wonderful to my mom.
First let me say , well done! Its kind of odd that i even stumbled across this. I too had a father in the Vietnam war that suffered severely due to agent orange. I remember as a child when my father would have weird medical conditions and was always told that it was a direct result to the exposure to agent orange and how he was lucky his conditions were not much worse. Well at that time they certainly spoke too soon. My fathered served from 1968-1971. When i was in high school 1994 he was diagnosed with Lymphoid Cancer which incredibly he beat after a long horrific battle to one of the fastest spreading fastest killing cancers. He was actually written about in medical journals. Celebration lasted about 12 years and then he was hit with brain and liver cancer. At that time he was also told without question it was directly related to agent orange. To make matters worse and add insult to injury his only source of treatment came from VA hospitals which as far as i am concerned SHOULD be some of the best medical care available to these men and women that served.Unfortunately that is soooo not the case. Its quite the polar opposite actually. It is so sad that so many families have and continue to suffer from such an awful thing and cannot receive the care they deserve. So again well done. I am so glad i did stumble across your video.
Now millions of tons of chemicals are dumped on our every year and we can say nothing about it. It's turning to toxic rain, it's so bad. When will it end?
Thank you for producing this film. I too was exposed, and was hospitalized for a skin disease on May 18, 1971 at the 3rd Field Hospital, then transferred to the 3rd Surgical Hospital near Can Tho until May 26, then transferred to the 24th Evacuation Hosp. Until June 7 1971 then evacuated out of the country in my hospital gown. I was treated for swollen thick skin, rashes, hives, swollen legs, swollen arms, swollen ankles, swelling and papular rashes and acne around the eyes, swollen ears face hands neck with blisters on hands ears and neck, swollen trunk, large wheals on back and trunk, my liver had results that were way out of the normal range, I had severe abdominal cramps, bad bone pain in my legs, headaches, urinating blood, and it got worse over the next 10 months. I was issued a P-3 Permanent Profile for basically defects in all the bodies organs and systems, as well as being non-deployable to most of the world. My claims for service connection to receive medical care for these conditions I acquired in Vietnam were all denied, denied along with all the other benefits me and my family were entitled to. I never received the "over 120 days of recovery", that was ordered, no follow up physicals, nothing. My treatment records that I finally received after 45 years prove dozens of conditions I should have been discharged for, as well as most of the presumptive conditions. The VA has had the evidence all of my life, and kept it from me too. We need to reopen this case and ask for a re evaluation of the conditions the herbicides cause, because "IT IS PASSED DOWN TO OUR KIDS AND GRAND".
Christopher. Thank you for producing this film and I'm very sorry you lost your father to Agent Orange Exposure. I wasn't in Vietnam very long, just long enough to get exposed to something in the Mekong Delta that ruined my life too, but I am still here, and have had liver damage that is documented as happening in Vietnam at the 24th Evacuation Hospital in May 1971. I spent 21 days in the hospitals in RVN and medivac'd out because of a skin disease, actually ingestion of chemicals that manifested itself visually on the skin. Four officers including the Commander of the 24th EVAC signed a DA3349 profile for permanent defects in basically all of my organs and body functions, and declared me non deployable on a world wide scale and needed over 120 days recovery to stabilize my heart and all. I filed in 1983 after dealing with too many issues for 12 years, and was denied. My service treatment records were hidden from me for 45 years despite dozens of FOIA Requests, and I just received some from Vietnam 9 months ago. I was hospitalized several times on duty with one stay of 28 days straight, but the VA says it never happened. They said there is no record of me having any illness, disease, or injury in the service and that I was never treated or diagnosed with any condition and that "I never complained". Of course that is 100% false and I finally got the documents to prove it. They said they will not release some, but I have enough to prove the corruption that happened to many Vietnam Veterans, like your father. The residuals are definitely passed down, but it will never be voluntarily admitted. We need a group of high caliber, the best of the best attorneys to fight for us. VSOs would be lost and limited in litigation, but I think you should seek legal advice if you haven't already. At some point, liver cancer will probably be added to the presumptive list, because every VV That I know has had liver, heart, and lung issues not to mention the others. Let me know if I can help. God Bless your family!
My brother died from it 18 years after serving in Vietnam. I was diagnosed 41 years after returning, 6-1/2 years and 64 chemo infusions later, the V.A. has been fabulous to me snd for me. That $180 mill. settlemrnt at $5K per victim meant 36,000 victims less than 10 years after the war ended. That is only a fraction of us victims. Monsanto and the other companies got away with murder... literally. But yes, A/O victims should be on The Wall.
that shit was made here in my hometown in Georgia. We're still feeling the effects of it. The plant that produced it is still operating just under a different name. Our cancer rate here is astronomical. They buried so much of that shit here in different locations and it still sits. it's a damn shame.
It was developed in 1944 as a weed control for domestic rice crops... ironic, huh? It killed the weeds AND the people who sprayed it, poisoned the water, causes multi-generational birth defects. It truly is the devil's tea.
My daddy served in Vietnam 66-70 and is dying from a rare cancer on his kidneys caused by agent orange exposure. Unfortunately, there is no time limit on this killer. I'm the first born and have had medical issues and cancer myself. Thank you for you're video, God bless you!
Your exactly right.The gov`t can care less about anyone while serving our country within the military.They treat you only like a number.If you die then number 346781 soldier will come in take your place.A (family buddy) of mine served in the Vietnam Conflict.He did two tours while serving.Before he was discharged from the Army.He was diagnosed with Gout.He had Gout in one foot.The VA did little to nothing to help him with his gout.All they would do was give him a shot in that foot once a month,then send him home. That`s when he became an alcoholic.Alcohol is one cause of gout.He died 3 yrs later due to gout.
My father passed away from complications from AO, he served on the frontlines in the ARMY from 68'-71'. He had boils on his body 30yrs later from that poison. My brother was born handicapped, i was born and couldn't walk till i was 6 w/out casts and braces. My father also had PTSD terribly, loud noises freaked him out, he'd wake up with nightmares regularly. War is awful. Agent orange destroyed my fathers life. Vietnam destroyed his life.
I just fell upon you upload which is very informative. I am sorry for your loss. I feel comforted that I am not alone when seeing rhis movie and reading the comments. My father was a Sgt of the USMC 1st Maw Mag 12 stationed in Chu Lai from 1965 to 1967. He died of Non hogdkins lymphoma in 1994 after withstanding 10yrs of battle against the disease since it was diagnosed. My brother died in 1999 of a sudden pulmonary embolism at 18 yrs old when he was very fit and we never had any problems like this in the family before. The doctor who treated my father told us back in 1999 after doing tests that it was linked to the dioxin in Agent Orange. As a result I did tests and they came out clean thank G. The government should pay tribute to those who died of agent orange and who 'already' died from being exposed when they were in Vietnam, as so well said in the movie. Thank you for sharing this movie.
Keep fighting Christopher! I have been living this nightmare for years now with my dad. Agent Orange is slowly killing him. He has had a heart attack and his whole body is mainly artificial tubing. I feel your pain. Even though my dads problems are on the list it took us years to get him even a foot in the VA doors. We went through hoop after hoop. Myself and countless others will continue to fight to have all these other diseases on that list. Not to mention all of these men and women deserve to be on the Vietnam Wall
my Dad was in D'Nang in 1967-1968. His heart fell apart(literally) at 38. I was diagnosed with Lupus and my child has Nuerolgical disorder. Nobody in my family has EVER this, but we've been told it's genetic.
Same situation happening to my family. Did you and your brother look into getting some kind of genetic testing done? There is a new bill that is getting passed that is adding more disease to the list along with possible testing for children etc
my cousin also was in Nam 70-71,suffered some cancers later on not long after returning from the war..eventually his death was related to agent orange..
My dead teared up every single time he was asked about the war. The pain hits him instantly. He told me never go to war if you dont have to it will change you forever.
Thanks Ken, I wish we would think more about the long-term effects of war. It's not as simple as pulling out and ending the conflict. We need to take care of future actions and take responsibility for our past; but negligence just seems so easy! And thanks for watching my films all this time! (this was the hardest film ever to make, just way more emotions than expected making this about 8 years later...and even releasing the film 10 years later)
***** When it comes to war,Smedly Butler US marine corp General Claimed it was a racket.In the 30's.And he was absolutely right on the money...Excuse the pun.Agent orange,Another fine product brought to you by the folks at Monsanto's.Peace to all.
Free Manz Isn't it great that you can create AGENT ORANGE and still be a world leader in tampering with our food supply present day? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto
***** Yup the world has turned into a crazy corrupt greedy place to survive.I feel for the ones coming 100 years+ from now.Yikes.And the wealthiest are the sickest of us all.
I don't know if you have seen this documentary: Jungle Rain-The NZ Story of Agent Orange and the Vietnam War (2005 Documentary) but if not, you should definitely watch it. Thank you for sharing your dad's story.
I feel so sorry, son for you and your Family. My husband was LRRP and was on the D.M.Z . He was in Hue, Quang Tri, Ashua Valley Duc To in Laos. He started getting sick in late 1990s . He went to Hospital with what he thought was flu. He had a 777 blood sugar. From then on he developed neuropathy, esthe mic heart, liver abnormalities, he had chloracne on his thighs. Kidney failure. He looked like a 90 yr.old man. He died at age 60 with my 4 kids watching.
Who pays the ultimate price in war? It is the soldier, his or her family, and those who die living in the neighborhoods where conflict occurs. Called "collateral damage," the hearts, minds, and souls of each casualty matters.
Very well produced. So much more potentially, to talk about in regards to this unfortunate topic. I hope people keep running with it and conveying the message.
Thanks for this film I served in Vietnam as a combat corpsman with the marines I now have chronic lymphatic leukemia. I wonder if my youngest son who has diabetes that lead to a kidney and pancreas transplants
You know what sucks worse for the veterans that were diagnosed with agent Orange..the fact that they had to wait 25 years for their settlement only to find out they have cancer . So most of them die before they even get their money or shortly after.. I know this because I was a volunteer at a soup kitchen where I have encountered Vietnam vets and their stories.. truly made me sad and sick to my stomach... How they've been treated I also have a uncle that was declared Mia. Thank you for sharing your dad would be very proud of you...
My dad is still suffering from agent orange. He served from 68-69. He has several of the things on the list, all was linked to agent orange including stage 4 Non-Hodgkin's. My youngest sister has had severe health issues also. Prayers for your family and so many others affected by that war and all wars.
God bless you and your family, especially your father. I really feel for you and your mom. I'm very happy for you all that he was able to be a father and husband to you all. So many have fallen through the cracks. Our government's disrespectful inaction to assist and honor our veterans should be punished. God help them and bless all our veterans. My brother-in-law was exposed also. He was covered in tumors for years. They were all over him. God healed him miraculously within 2 days after he saw Pat Robertson on TV getting a message about a man suffering tumors on his body from exposure to agent orange...he knew this message was his and accepted that healing and he has never had another tumor. I know that sounds unbelievable, but it is true. He was never the same after he came back, and has had many health and mental health issues over the years. He had to have family support and guidance to survive all these years. He now lives with us after suffering a stroke a couple of years ago. He never asked for help or compensation from the government. Only getting assistance after having the stroke and being uninsured and unable to pay for hospitalization. I think he just didn't have the ability or knowledge to get help. I don't really know all his reasons that he never tried to get help from the VA. But with our help he now has some assistance and wish that we knew how to get more benefits for him...such as councelling and socialization, mental health councelling, etc.
I just watched a dateline documentary about the children of agent orange. I had some more questions like, what about our american soldiers? They must have been exposed too... so here I am after typing 'agent orange america'. I love ther personal documentary. I love your creativity and cinematography. It's what youtube is made for. For anyone to document and tell their story. Thank you for taking this time. I am sure your dad is proud and always by your side supporting you in the air. He deserves justice. Much love.
My father was discharged from the Army in 62. His best friend, Harvey whom he was in ROTC with became a Helicopter Pilot and flew Medevac(s) for 3 tours in the Vietnam Conflict. Sadly, Harvey died in 1980 way before his time.
My father was in USMC Vietnam 2 tours between 1964-1971 and received 2 Purple Hearts. He was exposed to agent orange during that time frame in the battlefield. He ended up with lung cancer which he had surgery to remove part of the right lung in 2002 but the bigger issue was nerve damage in his hands and feet in his 30s and it slowly progressed to his whole spine is degenerative and had multiple surgeries to repair it but now he’s lost the ability to walk now for the past 18 months. He’s currently in ICU because he has really bad bed sores across his whole rear end because he can’t sit up in a wheelchair anymore. He has his mental occupancy but trapped in his body. It’s painful to watch him being bed ridden like this. It’s hard. My brother is the first born and he has multiple mental issues and struggles with scoliosis too. I have degenerative tendons especially in both my knees and I am slowly losing my ability to climb stairs at this point and can’t exercise properly like I use to.
I work with a older guy and his dad is still alive but has a lot of health problems with his lungs and other issues caused by Agent Orange his time is very limited now.I guess it just took longer for the affects to happen to him. He is basically slowly dieing from it, its sad stuff. Its crazy how it's still affecting people 40 something years after the worst war America was ever involved in. Its so fucked up that we live in the land of the free and home of the brave, but we don't do a good enough job taking care of our veterans.
“It is clear we have to continue the research, a lot of which is currently being done in Vietnam,” said Sanders. Thousands of Vietnamese children have been born with birth defects after problems related to exposure to Agent Orange. “We also have the absolute moral obligation to take care of our veterans and their family members dealing with the long-term consequences of Agent Orange,” Sanders added. He noted that Vietnam veterans had to wage an uphill battle just to get the U.S. government to acknowledge that chemicals used in the war were related to health problems. “This has been a pretty sorry history,” Sanders said.
Hello my friend I love your story it hit my heart lots my dad was there in vietnam from the beginning of the war till the end of war my dad died same he died agent Orange when I was 5 years old he passed away in Tucson Arizona from there was hard for me to live on thank you for sharing this story
When stated veterans aren't listed on the wall if they died from agent orange complications felt like getting punched in the stomach...took me a second to stand back up.
This made me cry, then I read the comments of people who also suffered and it made me cry even more. I know how you feel, my father passed away 9 years ago tomorrow and it breaks my heart seeing how many others are at a loss like me.... I have so many helath issues and now I'm wondering if they are caused by AO. :(
my grandma was 17 and she had a boyfriend who was 18, he was drafted and she never saw him again, she knew he survived but to this day my grandmas dying wish was to find out what had happened in his life. what he did after the war
They always talk about Agent Orange but they also used Agent Purple, Pink, Blue, Green and Agent White ( I typed this in the 1st few minutes of this upload) in fact they had 3 types of Agent Orange and used the Agent Orange the lady talked about in the beginning the highly toxic stuff. I read in a book years ago that a company of troops got sprayed with a fluorescent defoliant and marked each others back so they could see the guy in front of them was going.
Agent Orange effects are alive in Vietnam to this day. Many children are born with serious defects and health problems, but there is not enough resource to assist them. You can check out some documentaries about this on UA-cam (search for Agent orange Vietnam). I'm hoping to be able to go back home in 2016 and do something to help them. Thank you for making this video and getting the message out. God Bless you and your family!
I'm sorry for loss of your father I also lost my father in 2001 of leukemia & heart disease he was Air Force in ubon Thailand during 67-69.. I am 2nd generation with physical & mental disabilities I am fighting to get into VA doctor now..
My dad passed last year from cancer everywhere.. in the end liver cancer. I was prepared to hear it was from years of smoking but the va told us it was from agent orange. His death certificate says service related. I was born with hip issues which later turned into scoliosis. From my research of all my heath issues are things the kids of Vietnam are reporting, but the government won't touch the subject now! Unlike your dad my dad never spoke about Nam until years later! When it started to come out about the sickness others endured my mom happened to see a readers digest article about agent orange and freaked out at that time she was pregnant with me. My dad was never notified about a law suit, but he would've never taken the money anyway! My dad to was a marine I'm sorry this has affected us both and so many more!
Agent orange killed my dad and left my younger brothers with major medical problems, including a rare blood cancer. I remember when my dad filed a claim before he died, but was told his claim wasn't timely. After he died, we had to fight for a year just to get a headstone over him. The military used him up and then discarded him, leaving my teenage brother without his dad. He was in the First Infantry Division. He died from prostrate cancer.
A good video Chris. I know it won't bring your dad back but I hope this video contributes to the reparation of others in their quest in getting justice and closure, even if only in the form of an apology for the use of these highly toxic chemicals used in and out of war! Sadly the war machine only seems to view the men and women involved in conflicts as canon fodder and I'm sure that injustices like this will continue. You only have to see how civilians and servicemen have been exposed during atomic testing in both the U.S.A and the Pacific, not to mention the use of DU in the the Gulf War and Iraq and finally the use of nerve gas and psychotropic drugs on prisoners and servicemen as if lab rats in a Hollywood horror movie. Your dad looked like a nice guy who enjoyed his family. I'm sure if he's watching UA-cam on a cloud somewhere with his buddies, they'll be clapping their hands and saying what a good job you did in the making of this!
My brother was killed by his country. I have been around this family from the day he died. Two days after we sent him home our government sent a check for 545 to cover his suit two days his wife or someone put the check in the bank. As you can imagine the family has been suffering for years. His daughter is sick all the time my family has been in every war down to my son because we love our country when are they going to show love to all the men and women who serve. He died in 94 suffered from 69to70.L ow life people i wish them the same.
And how nobody thought that maybe just maybe both sides would be exposed to the chemical is beyong me,worst thing is that it wasn't even that effective for their goal and was just a failure like the war itself. The only thing we got out of this is birth deffects,cancer,destroyed land for decades.
This was my job in the AirForce. We sprayed this and many more chemicals. My thought was I was helping the troops and the war effort. Today I carry the guilt from my part in the dispersal of these chemicals. I do suffer ailments from the chemicals
Gary T The guilt is not any Vietnam vet to carry, you were only doing as you and others were ordered, by people in higher positions who sat behind desks while the war was going on. Shalom
Thank you for this. My dear friend CSM Fred Marshall II lost a leg to agent orange and his health deteriorated. Once retired, Fred wrote constantly and spoke on freedom radio stations as to the evils taking place in the current govt system, which of course is NOT a Constitutional Republic but now an oligarchy.
it's not that they think "what needs to be done", it's how much money their shareholders can make and how much power and usurpation of the other they can bring about.
both my parents served in vietnam, my dad was a navy seal, he has been dealing with agent orange exposure since he got back from the 'nam as well as severe PTSD and my mom was in a mobile M.A.S.H unit and was exposed as well, they both have to deal with fucked up side effects from the chemical and the war in general, when my brother and I both enlisted my parents were proud but there was a sense of anger because they know from experience that the military gives 0 fucks about us, when I was in afghanistan there wasn't really any use of chemicals from either side so I'm thankful for that but when my brother served in the early 90's and was in Bosnia, he was exposed to chemicals and has suffered from psychological issues since
he wasnt exposed to chemical weapons in bosnia, he was exposed to chemicals in general and it fucked him up, not sure what chemicals though, never said he experienced chemical warfare over there
When I was screened for Agent Orange, in 1980, the doctor told me: "How could YOU be affected by agent orange? You were a pilot?", When I showed him the rash on my leg, that mysteriously appeared a week after I came home, in 1972, the doctor said nothing. He called in a "specialist"...who looked at it and ALSO..said nothing. He wrote out a prescription for some kind of cream...which DID make the rash disappear. I was surprised because I had been to many civilian doctors to try and fix that problem, in the years between 1972 and 1980...but to no avail. A skin doctor, I knew, told me they probably gave me a steroid ointment...that, in his words, "was like concrete. It covers the problem but doesn't fix it".
I'm sorry for your loss. veterans are always getting the short end of the stick. my dad was a ww2 navy veteran and whenever he went to the VA for something he got turned away. I never understood why he wouldn't complain or demand that he got the help he deserved but it was the way it was. I think the oil wells in Kuwait that saddam's army set on fire have contributed too many veterans getting cancer and other ailments from that War as well. I don't think they have had much luck either at persuading our government on the origin of their sicknesses. I'm sorry you don't have any memories of your dad. I do agree he does belong on the Vietnam memorial wall and should never be forgotten .
My dad suffered from agent orange as well. If he wasn't in a temperature that wasn't just right...too hot or too cold, he was covered in hives head to toe. My earliest memories are him in his underwear scratching endlessly. He fought and fought and some kind of settlement was in sight...until he passed away. He passed in 2003. It so crazy how this young man's dad died EXACTLY like mine. He died from liver cancer too. And from the time he found out till he passed was almost 2 months! U would think that any kind of money the gov was supposed to be going to him would go to his kids, right??! Wrong. It was only to go to my mother...if they were still married. Fortunately for the Gov. they were recently divorced. And that was that. I think we got 600 dollars towards his funeral services. I can't believe this is how these men and their families are treated.
There is no way anyone can prove liver cancer is caused by a single entity any more than they can prove lung cancer was caused by smoking but it sure is assumed.
The TV movie "Unnatural Causes" starring John Ritter and Alfre Woodard...Very important film about the Vietnam War...Agent Orange....uncovered by a courageous woman in the Chicago VA. Watch for the great short vignette acted by Graham Greene, who was the medicine man in Dances With Wolves. I own this DVD bought from Amazon. Bill Kurtis, news anchor in Chicago, made an important documentary about Agent Orange.
Our brother was a flight line crew chief servicing AO planes on Okinawa. The DOD/VA lied for decades that those planes had been decontaminated and there was never any AO ever stored n Okinawa. The planes were not decontaminated before servicing and they uncovered huge dumps of buried AO drums on the island recently (2015). He had mysterious renal bleeding shortly after returning to civilian life in 1968...undiagnosed as renal cancer until he was near death in the late 80's.
My husband developed a Heart condition then eventually was told he had ALS.When he died he was completely parialoised,What an awful way to die because he loved his country He died Sept 1st.2001.
A quote from a Vietnam war film, " You're trying to get rid of a headache by cutting off the head ". The countries who fought in Vietnam realised they couldn't win by fighting in the jungle, America's answer, get rid of the jungle !!.
I was in a v.a rehab with a Vietnam vet whos skin was flaking off , his entire body was one big flake. He made my ptsd, tbi , seem minor in comparison.
Thank you John F. Kennedy, the man who authorized the use of Agent Orange in the Republic of Viet Nam and in Korea along the DMZ. Most people point to LBJ for the Viet Nam War, but he inherited it. The first person who had the ability to stop America going to Viet Nam was Woodrow Wilson when, in 1920, he refused a meeting with the man who would become Ho Chi Minh. The second man was Harry S. Truman in 1945. Both of them put the French back in what was called Indochina, even providing assistance. JFK authorized Agent Orange, which has killed more people than all the bombs and bullets of that war. JFK also created the Green Berets and US Navy SEALs. And while they belong on the Vietnam Wall, they are not recognized as eligible for that honor. It was this reason that I never mourned the murder of JFK by a Socialist Democrat.
I'm an Agent Orange baby. The first child conceived when my father came back. He died of lung cancer when I was six, and I began a life without a father and without good health. I have had many rare disorders that affect my kidneys and lungs. By age 36 I was permanently disabled by advanced endometriosis and fibromyalgia. This was after surgery, medication, acupuncture, and all other possibilities were ventured. Since there is no cure for endometriosis except surgery (which I had), I live in pain every second of every day, and many doctors have told me I'm crazy to blame agent orange (even though they have no other reason for why I have this disease)! My father knew he had cancer and that he was dying, but he chose to not go through treatments and continue working for the military until the day he died. Like a good soldier he was sacrificed.
You're story is very similar to mine. I would like to compare notes.
Vets of ww1 and ww2 were treated like heroes, and Vietnam vets were treated like trash, people don't blame the vets if vietnam, blame the higher ups who lied to the vets about the herbicides.
SultrySelket WOW. I only have uncles/cousins who served in Vietnam, but I too, have been completely disabled by fibromyalgia. I had severe endometriosis with 4+ laser surgeries 🙄 culminating with a complete hysterectomy at age 32. I’m 52 now. I live in constant pain and crushing, soul-sucking fatigue ... I can take Tylenol! 🙄🙄🙄 yay! The doctors don’t care. At this point, they just ignore my pain, but they sure still take my money. I’ve shut down almost completely. Nobody understands. I have no life except for educating myself and trying to wake others up. To the person who said to prepare documents and this and that, WE’RE TOO EXHAUSTED to barely think, much less try and do all that. We need advocates to fight. WE have been taken OUT.
Btw, there is dioxin in tampons and pads ... I never, ever heard this until I looked into agent orange. Monsanto’s pesticides are in our food, fluoride is in our water, deadly adjuvants are in their vaccines, their medications (especially antidepressants!) do more harm than good, etc etc, ad infinitum, ad nauseum.
@@kaleeshsynth9994 in WWII, the soldiers and Marines in the pacific were given meth. to keep them up 24/7. meth was invented in a lab by the government OK. many vets came back addicted to smokes and drugs and alcohol.
I like you was conceived after my Dad returned from Vietnam. I have been disabled for 7 years now and struggle every day but I am supposed to suck it up and live a country who kills it’s citizens? I have a rare immune disorder and had a cyst removed from my brainstem three years ago and am just existing. Disability pays me which I am lucky to receive it but I would rather have my health back and be able to work. Sad for many and it took me many years to realize that this cyst was not a birth defect but from an infection or exposure caused by a faulty gene passed on from my Dad.
I cried while watching this presentation! My husband passed away on Jan 31, 2012 he served in Vietnam from Dec 1969 to Dec 1970 on land doing logistics between Hw MACV and US Naval Forces traveling on military bases within the Republic of Vietnam. He was diagnosed with rare and aggressive cancer only found in the lungs but lodged on bladder. My husband filed for claim on AO but have been denied. Fortunately, he requested time to present more evidence that is why I am continuing his fight with the VA. I am not sure how this will end. This case is on its 8th year. It is just too painful and I feel how your mom felt for her loss.
Please call your congressman. That's how I finally got help.
The rep from AmVets did a fantastic job putting together my appeal of a downgrade. She was also 20% service-connected disabled, so she knew what to do and how to do it. I highly recommend using a VSO like AmVets for any appeal-related matters.
Wow! A few years ago my friend died of Agent Orange I was a little girl at the time I remember the rash on his legs! He did three tours... on his last tour he was ruins it he lost an eye and had a metal plate in his head! He passed away a few years ago all he received was $3,000 his funeral was paid by a family member! His diagnosis with cirrhosis of the liver however, he did not drink! Almost 40 years later it was just recently that I found out and educated myself on this horrific destructible disease of this chemical I am so going down the rabbit hole!
Young man, I watched your story, I am 53, I am crying now, even after all these years. My father, 1st. Lt. John Elvin Scribner, USMC, served in '68 in Dong Ho, he came home and passed away Jan, '69 at the age of 37, the cause was listed as pulmonary pneumonia, in '89 my mother received a form letter telling her his death was directly linked to exposure to agent Orange, in '05 she received a presentation of the order of the purple rose. I never got to know my father, his passing left a huge hole for my mother and 8 kids for almost 50 years now, I feel yours and the man you interviewed pain
My husband from beginning 1968 through 1969, in I Corp, he has memory problems, PTSD and esophageal cancer. I truly believe Agent Orange is at cause.
I too am suffering from the effects of AO. I was in Vietnam '70 - '71. I was in the AF as an Air Policeman. Same thing as an Army MP. I was on the fence lines and sprayed AO to kill weeds growing in and around the fences. I got soaked with AO. Prior to going to Vietnam I was in excellent health. A year after coming home I started falling apart. First it was heart problems. My heart wasn't beating right. Years later I was diagnosed with MGUS which is a precursor to Multiple Myeloma. Next I developed Peripheral Neuropathy. Now I have very little feeling in my feet and my hands are starting to tingle. I also developed an Aortic Aneurysm and now I need surgery to repair it before it kills me. I am rated 100% disabled by the VA. I decided to file an AO claim and went to see a veterans representative. He told me if I filed the VA could take my benefits away. I am going to file anyway and if they take my benefits away I am going to sue them.
Lied to, sprayed, and betrayed.
Being in the military means doing whatever they tell you no matter how ridiculous or horrific the task is. This is why earth is hell.
Semper Fi Moose!
And Chris, Mike, and Mom: sorry that your family lost their man.
As a Gulf War Marine vet, I felt many different emotions while watching this. Proud to be a Marine (ferociously) but not happy with how so many vets get swept under the rug when something goes south like this and no one will claim responsibility.
Your film made me think of parallels to my experience (we were injected with experimental anthrax vaccines - but only told the "experimental" part after the fact), as well as similar stories of others who have and are still dealing with related sufferings from poisoning while serving. Camp Lejeune's entire population from a certain era is facing this right now...and getting nowhere.
Coupled with what I learned to fix my later health issues, regarding chemicals and their mixing...too much to convey in one message for me. Just glad you're giving it another voice.
As your friend and someone's who's watched your filmmaking career grow: this is the best work I've seen yet. Very high production quality. Well formatted. Great graphics. Well timed music overlays.
And the fact that you've chosen such a mission is admirable. It takes guts to go interview people and it takes guts to string the story together, then decide what to edit out,what to keep, etc. I am truly impressed with what you've done. I am truly excited as I watch your journey unfold.
I'm glad we met! Ken
I’m a second generation Marine and Nam Vet, Chu Lai 68-69 1st MAW MAG 12. I was absolutely lucky to be on an air base and I’m very thankful. My dad was in from 38-46 and served in the South Pacific. Where he was at or what he did, I didn’t know. He never talked about it and he passed before I turned 17 and he never saw me join.
The politician's should be doused in agent orange, then they might understand what they did!
Oh.........and they wan't to be in charge of you're HEALTH CARE!!! ARE YOU FRIKEN CRAZY!!!!!!
Gary Bullwinkle sad cause true
@@garybullwinkle6784 The health insurance companies might as well be collectively regarded as the Ministry of Medical Apportionment, ie they effectively choose who lives and dies based on the prerogatives of their business. At least the government would have an obligation to give care and control costs, rather than pursue the profit motive by letting patients die and go bankrupt. Medicare does not control your health care it just pays for it, you still visit privately operated clinics and doctors, it just means you pay taxes rather than insurance costs. Remember that market oligopolies can serve as a form of governance as powerful as the government itself.
Henry Kissinger kept the war going for another 4 years for his personal political gain and got a Nobel Peace Prize ,millions die because of this War Criminal .
@@hardcandy7112 You forget to mention LBJ and his head minion Robert McNamara. They all had blood on their hands.
I am trying to get more people aware of this, I'm truly sorry for your loss.
Well done, Christopher. You've done a great thing in making this documentary.
I'm an Australian who entertained the troops in the Vietnam War, March 12 to June 7, 1970. I turned 18 just after I was in Dong Ha. The group I was with, The Sydney-Siders, went to every area of (then) South Vietnam. I may well have met your dad.
In writing about my experiences in VN some years ago, I discovered we were virtually following the defoliant trail. Our drummer died at the age of 57. He had always looked after his health but suffered damage from chemicals found his liver about thirty years after our tour. Because we are not recognised as Vietnam Veterans, nobody thought to connect the toxins that were completely unconnected with any other part of his life, with Vietnam. Having had children a long time post Vietnam, he left a wife and two young sons.
I'm 64, look after my health really well but suffer the effects of Agent Orange/Blue/White etc. I had three miscarriages, have two healthy kids. The first thing I did when they were born (December 1983, January 1988), was check to see whether everything was where it ought to have been, before even seeing which sex they were.
Thank you for speaking out.
Very best wishes to you, your mother and family.
Aviva Sheb'a
My hubby died 18 months ago from several illnesses due to Agent Orange, but mainly a brain tumor caused by it. So many illnesses that are not on the list. We had 31 years together. I guess I was luckier than some to have that much time with him. Dear God, I miss him.
Candace Orr, right now, I'm in a hospital room with my stepdad who is dying from liver cancer from being rained on in the jungle by agent orange. The NSAIDs that the VA gave him made things even worse. He's a super guy. It makes me want to strangle somebody.
@@jeffduncan9140 I'm so sorry. I was angry too. Still am I guess. The treatments my husband received also made things worse. This all just reinforced my opinion on not trusting government. Make sure when your stepfather passes on to contact the VA for your mother to get Survivor benefits. You will need the death certificate to reflect the causes and underlying causes of his death. An advocate for the benefits should walk you through what you need to do. I know it's not about money but your mother should have compensation for her loss. May God give your family peace and comfort.
@@candaceorr7517 I appreciate you, as does my mom. And I will tell her about the survivors benefits, if she doesn't already know. Joe is a pretty squared-away guy. And he has been wonderful to my mom.
First let me say , well done! Its kind of odd that i even stumbled across this. I too had a father in the Vietnam war that suffered severely due to agent orange. I remember as a child when my father would have weird medical conditions and was always told that it was a direct result to the exposure to agent orange and how he was lucky his conditions were not much worse. Well at that time they certainly spoke too soon. My fathered served from 1968-1971. When i was in high school 1994 he was diagnosed with Lymphoid Cancer which incredibly he beat after a long horrific battle to one of the fastest spreading fastest killing cancers. He was actually written about in medical journals. Celebration lasted about 12 years and then he was hit with brain and liver cancer. At that time he was also told without question it was directly related to agent orange. To make matters worse and add insult to injury his only source of treatment came from VA hospitals which as far as i am concerned SHOULD be some of the best medical care available to these men and women that served.Unfortunately that is soooo not the case. Its quite the polar opposite actually. It is so sad that so many families have and continue to suffer from such an awful thing and cannot receive the care they deserve. So again well done. I am so glad i did stumble across your video.
Much RespectI am sure your father would be very proud of you for making this important film.
Now millions of tons of chemicals are dumped on our every year and we can say nothing about it. It's turning to toxic rain, it's so bad. When will it end?
Thank you for producing this film. I too was exposed, and was hospitalized for a skin disease on May 18, 1971 at the 3rd Field Hospital, then transferred to the 3rd Surgical Hospital near Can Tho until May 26, then transferred to the 24th Evacuation Hosp. Until June 7 1971 then evacuated out of the country in my hospital gown. I was treated for swollen thick skin, rashes, hives, swollen legs, swollen arms, swollen ankles, swelling and papular rashes and acne around the eyes, swollen ears face hands neck with blisters on hands ears and neck, swollen trunk, large wheals on back and trunk, my liver had results that were way out of the normal range, I had severe abdominal cramps, bad bone pain in my legs, headaches, urinating blood, and it got worse over the next 10 months. I was issued a P-3 Permanent Profile for basically defects in all the bodies organs and systems, as well as being non-deployable to most of the world. My claims for service connection to receive medical care for these conditions I acquired in Vietnam were all denied, denied along with all the other benefits me and my family were entitled to. I never received the "over 120 days of recovery", that was ordered, no follow up physicals, nothing. My treatment records that I finally received after 45 years prove dozens of conditions I should have been discharged for, as well as most of the presumptive conditions. The VA has had the evidence all of my life, and kept it from me too. We need to reopen this case and ask for a re evaluation of the conditions the herbicides cause, because "IT IS PASSED DOWN TO OUR KIDS AND GRAND".
Christopher.
Thank you for producing this film and I'm very sorry you lost your father to Agent Orange Exposure. I wasn't in Vietnam very long, just long enough to get exposed to something in the Mekong Delta that ruined my life too, but I am still here, and have had liver damage that is documented as happening in Vietnam at the 24th Evacuation Hospital in May 1971. I spent 21 days in the hospitals in RVN and medivac'd out because of a skin disease, actually ingestion of chemicals that manifested itself visually on the skin. Four officers including the Commander of the 24th EVAC signed a DA3349 profile for permanent defects in basically all of my organs and body functions, and declared me non deployable on a world wide scale and needed over 120 days recovery to stabilize my heart and all. I filed in 1983 after dealing with too many issues for 12 years, and was denied.
My service treatment records were hidden from me for 45 years despite dozens of FOIA Requests, and I just received some from Vietnam 9 months ago. I was hospitalized several times on duty with one stay of 28 days straight, but the VA says it never happened. They said there is no record of me having any illness, disease, or injury in the service and that I was never treated or diagnosed with any condition and that "I never complained". Of course that is 100% false and I finally got the documents to prove it. They said they will not release some, but I have enough to prove the corruption that happened to many Vietnam Veterans, like your father. The residuals are definitely passed down, but it will never be voluntarily admitted. We need a group of high caliber, the best of the best attorneys to fight for us. VSOs would be lost and limited in litigation, but I think you should seek legal advice if you haven't already. At some point, liver cancer will probably be added to the presumptive list, because every VV That I know has had liver, heart, and lung issues not to mention the others. Let me know if I can help. God Bless your family!
My brother died from it 18 years after serving in Vietnam. I was diagnosed 41 years after returning, 6-1/2 years and 64 chemo infusions later, the V.A. has been fabulous to me snd for me. That $180 mill. settlemrnt at $5K per victim meant 36,000 victims less than 10 years after the war ended. That is only a fraction of us victims. Monsanto and the other companies got away with murder... literally.
But yes, A/O victims should be on The Wall.
that shit was made here in my hometown in Georgia. We're still feeling the effects of it. The plant that produced it is still operating just under a different name. Our cancer rate here is astronomical. They buried so much of that shit here in different locations and it still sits. it's a damn shame.
Btw, sorry for your loss.
1Cardplayer there was several places in US it was stored & tested..
Dow and Montesano were the top producers but a lot of companies made Agent Orange
What part of Georgia
It was developed in 1944 as a weed control for domestic rice crops... ironic, huh? It killed the weeds AND the people who sprayed it, poisoned the water, causes multi-generational birth defects. It truly is the devil's tea.
My daddy served in Vietnam 66-70 and is dying from a rare cancer on his kidneys caused by agent orange exposure. Unfortunately, there is no time limit on this killer. I'm the first born and have had medical issues and cancer myself.
Thank you for you're video, God bless you!
This is y I don't want to go into the armed forces because the government gives 0 fuxs about what happens to u or your family
Your exactly right.The gov`t can care less about anyone while serving our country within the military.They treat you only like a number.If you die then number 346781 soldier will come in take your place.A (family buddy) of mine served in the Vietnam Conflict.He did two tours while serving.Before he was discharged from the Army.He was diagnosed with Gout.He had Gout in one foot.The VA did little to nothing to help him with his gout.All they would do was give him a shot in that foot once a month,then send him home. That`s when he became an alcoholic.Alcohol is one cause of gout.He died 3 yrs later due to gout.
What sucks is that most of the soldiers didn't know what the hell the stuff really was. The effects it had in long terms as well.
My father passed away from complications from AO, he served on the frontlines in the ARMY from 68'-71'. He had boils on his body 30yrs later from that poison. My brother was born handicapped, i was born and couldn't walk till i was 6 w/out casts and braces. My father also had PTSD terribly, loud noises freaked him out, he'd wake up with nightmares regularly. War is awful. Agent orange destroyed my fathers life. Vietnam destroyed his life.
Colleen Nally don’t blame it on Vietnam blame it on the American government u goof ball
I just fell upon you upload which is very informative. I am sorry for your loss. I feel comforted that I am not alone when seeing rhis movie and reading the comments. My father was a Sgt of the USMC 1st Maw Mag 12 stationed in Chu Lai from 1965 to 1967. He died of Non hogdkins lymphoma in 1994 after withstanding 10yrs of battle against the disease since it was diagnosed. My brother died in 1999 of a sudden pulmonary embolism at 18 yrs old when he was very fit and we never had any problems like this in the family before. The doctor who treated my father told us back in 1999 after doing tests that it was linked to the dioxin in Agent Orange. As a result I did tests and they came out clean thank G. The government should pay tribute to those who died of agent orange and who 'already' died from being exposed when they were in Vietnam, as so well said in the movie. Thank you for sharing this movie.
Keep fighting Christopher! I have been living this nightmare for years now with my dad. Agent Orange is slowly killing him. He has had a heart attack and his whole body is mainly artificial tubing. I feel your pain. Even though my dads problems are on the list it took us years to get him even a foot in the VA doors. We went through hoop after hoop. Myself and countless others will continue to fight to have all these other diseases on that list. Not to mention all of these men and women deserve to be on the Vietnam Wall
my Dad was in D'Nang in 1967-1968. His heart fell apart(literally) at 38.
I was diagnosed with Lupus and my child has Nuerolgical disorder. Nobody in my family has EVER this, but we've been told it's genetic.
Same situation happening to my family. Did you and your brother look into getting some kind of genetic testing done? There is a new bill that is getting passed that is adding more disease to the list along with possible testing for children etc
my cousin also was in Nam 70-71,suffered some cancers later on not long after returning from the war..eventually his death was related to agent orange..
My dead teared up every single time he was asked about the war. The pain hits him instantly. He told me never go to war if you dont have to it will change you forever.
Thanks Ken,
I wish we would think more about the long-term effects of war. It's not as simple as pulling out and ending the conflict. We need to take care of future actions and take responsibility for our past; but negligence just seems so easy!
And thanks for watching my films all this time!
(this was the hardest film ever to make, just way more emotions than expected making this about 8 years later...and even releasing the film 10 years later)
***** When it comes to war,Smedly Butler US marine corp General Claimed it was a racket.In the 30's.And he was absolutely right on the money...Excuse the pun.Agent orange,Another fine product brought to you by the folks at Monsanto's.Peace to all.
Free Manz Isn't it great that you can create AGENT ORANGE and still be a world leader in tampering with our food supply present day?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsanto
***** Yup the world has turned into a crazy corrupt greedy place to survive.I feel for the ones coming 100 years+ from now.Yikes.And the wealthiest are the sickest of us all.
+Christopher Nostrand
God Bless You!
What a wonderful way to commemorate your father.
I don't know if you have seen this documentary: Jungle Rain-The NZ Story of Agent Orange and the Vietnam War (2005 Documentary) but if not, you should definitely watch it. Thank you for sharing your dad's story.
I feel so sorry, son for you and your Family. My husband was LRRP and was on the D.M.Z . He was in Hue, Quang Tri, Ashua Valley Duc To in Laos. He started getting sick in late 1990s . He went to Hospital with what he thought was flu. He had a 777 blood sugar. From then on he developed neuropathy, esthe
mic heart, liver abnormalities, he had chloracne on his thighs. Kidney failure. He looked like a 90 yr.old man. He died at age 60 with my 4 kids watching.
I’m so sorry for your loss I read your comment it really touched me 😭
Who pays the ultimate price in war? It is the soldier, his or her family, and those who die living in the neighborhoods where conflict occurs. Called "collateral damage," the hearts, minds, and souls of each casualty matters.
My brother died from chemo - which was used to fight the leukemia he got from Agent Orange. He did 3 tours in Vietnam. He was 57 when he died.
Christopher this short film is superb....sorry about the loss of your dad to that horrible war and its after affects.
Very well produced. So much more potentially, to talk about in regards to this unfortunate topic. I hope people keep running with it and conveying the message.
Thanks for this film I served in Vietnam as a combat corpsman with the marines I now have chronic lymphatic leukemia. I wonder if my youngest son who has diabetes that lead to a kidney and pancreas transplants
I lost my father in 06 from Agent 🍊...This kids story is just like my father's I can't believe I just found this today.....
You know what sucks worse for the veterans that were diagnosed with agent Orange..the fact that they had to wait 25 years for their settlement only to find out they have cancer . So most of them die before they even get their money or shortly after.. I know this because I was a volunteer at a soup kitchen where I have encountered Vietnam vets and their stories.. truly made me sad and sick to my stomach... How they've been treated I also have a uncle that was declared Mia. Thank you for sharing your dad would be very proud of you...
My dad is still suffering from agent orange. He served from 68-69. He has several of the things on the list, all was linked to agent orange including stage 4 Non-Hodgkin's. My youngest sister has had severe health issues also. Prayers for your family and so many others affected by that war and all wars.
God bless you and your family, especially your father. I really feel for you and your mom. I'm very happy for you all that he was able to be a father and husband to you all. So many have fallen through the cracks. Our government's disrespectful inaction to assist and honor our veterans should be punished. God help them and bless all our veterans. My brother-in-law was exposed also. He was covered in tumors for years. They were all over him. God healed him miraculously within 2 days after he saw Pat Robertson on TV getting a message about a man suffering tumors on his body from exposure to agent orange...he knew this message was his and accepted that healing and he has never had another tumor. I know that sounds unbelievable, but it is true. He was never the same after he came back, and has had many health and mental health issues over the years. He had to have family support and guidance to survive all these years. He now lives with us after suffering a stroke a couple of years ago. He never asked for help or compensation from the government. Only getting assistance after having the stroke and being uninsured and unable to pay for hospitalization. I think he just didn't have the ability or knowledge to get help. I don't really know all his reasons that he never tried to get help from the VA. But with our help he now has some assistance and wish that we knew how to get more benefits for him...such as councelling and socialization, mental health councelling, etc.
I just watched a dateline documentary about the children of agent orange. I had some more questions like, what about our american soldiers? They must have been exposed too... so here I am after typing 'agent orange america'. I love ther personal documentary. I love your creativity and cinematography. It's what youtube is made for. For anyone to document and tell their story. Thank you for taking this time. I am sure your dad is proud and always by your side supporting you in the air. He deserves justice. Much love.
My father was discharged from the Army in 62. His best friend, Harvey whom he was in ROTC with became a Helicopter Pilot and flew Medevac(s) for 3 tours in the Vietnam Conflict. Sadly, Harvey died in 1980 way before his time.
My father was in USMC Vietnam 2 tours between 1964-1971 and received 2 Purple Hearts. He was exposed to agent orange during that time frame in the battlefield. He ended up with lung cancer which he had surgery to remove part of the right lung in 2002 but the bigger issue was nerve damage in his hands and feet in his 30s and it slowly progressed to his whole spine is degenerative and had multiple surgeries to repair it but now he’s lost the ability to walk now for the past 18 months. He’s currently in ICU because he has really bad bed sores across his whole rear end because he can’t sit up in a wheelchair anymore. He has his mental occupancy but trapped in his body. It’s painful to watch him being bed ridden like this. It’s hard. My brother is the first born and he has multiple mental issues and struggles with scoliosis too. I have degenerative tendons especially in both my knees and I am slowly losing my ability to climb stairs at this point and can’t exercise properly like I use to.
I work with a older guy and his dad is still alive but has a lot of health problems with his lungs and other issues caused by Agent Orange his time is very limited now.I guess it just took longer for the affects to happen to him. He is basically slowly dieing from it, its sad stuff. Its crazy how it's still affecting people 40 something years after the worst war America was ever involved in. Its so fucked up that we live in the land of the free and home of the brave, but we don't do a good enough job taking care of our veterans.
“It is clear we have to continue the research, a lot of which is currently being done in Vietnam,” said Sanders. Thousands of Vietnamese children have been born with birth defects after problems related to exposure to Agent Orange. “We also have the absolute moral obligation to take care of our veterans and their family members dealing with the long-term consequences of Agent Orange,” Sanders added. He noted that Vietnam veterans had to wage an uphill battle just to get the U.S. government to acknowledge that chemicals used in the war were related to health problems. “This has been a pretty sorry history,” Sanders said.
My grandpa has Heart problems because of this fucking chemical. Like giving all of us free college will magically make up for that.
My heart goes out to everyone that was affected and is affected by Agent Orange. 🙏🏼
Hello my friend I love your story it hit my heart lots my dad was there in vietnam from the beginning of the war till the end of war my dad died same he died agent Orange when I was 5 years old he passed away in Tucson Arizona from there was hard for me to live on thank you for sharing this story
When stated veterans aren't listed on the wall if they died from agent orange complications felt like getting punched in the stomach...took me a second to stand back up.
Nice documentation. Well done.
This made me cry, then I read the comments of people who also suffered and it made me cry even more. I know how you feel, my father passed away 9 years ago tomorrow and it breaks my heart seeing how many others are at a loss like me.... I have so many helath issues and now I'm wondering if they are caused by AO. :(
My Uncle was in Vietnam and worked with and near AO and is now and has been suffering from Parkinson’s for over 16 years. It’s a terrible disease.
Thanks for sharing this ! Tragic...touching and so important
my grandma was 17 and she had a boyfriend who was 18, he was drafted and she never saw him again, she knew he survived but to this day my grandmas dying wish was to find out what had happened in his life. what he did after the war
Wow. Thats awful. Thanks for shedding light on this subject.
They always talk about Agent Orange but they also used Agent Purple, Pink, Blue, Green and Agent White ( I typed this in the 1st few minutes of this upload) in fact they had 3 types of Agent Orange and used the Agent Orange the lady talked about in the beginning the highly toxic stuff. I read in a book years ago that a company of troops got sprayed with a fluorescent defoliant and marked each others back so they could see the guy in front of them was going.
Also my dad has those same pictures of piles of barrels. If you look closely they’re all leaking too
Agent Orange effects are alive in Vietnam to this day. Many children are born with serious defects and health problems, but there is not enough resource to assist them. You can check out some documentaries about this on UA-cam (search for Agent orange Vietnam). I'm hoping to be able to go back home in 2016 and do something to help them. Thank you for making this video and getting the message out. God Bless you and your family!
Monsanto should be bankrupted,n the bulk of the money sent to Vietnam,the rest to US Aussie n other victims.never again
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It is still in use today, I believe, is the active ingredient in Roundup a weed killer made by Monsanto.
Great Job! I enjoyed this alot!
I'm sorry for loss of your father I also lost my father in 2001 of leukemia & heart disease he was Air Force in ubon Thailand during 67-69.. I am 2nd generation with physical & mental disabilities I am fighting to get into VA doctor now..
Thanks for sharing this interesting video. I subscribed.
My dad passed last year from cancer everywhere.. in the end liver cancer. I was prepared to hear it was from years of smoking but the va told us it was from agent orange. His death certificate says service related. I was born with hip issues which later turned into scoliosis. From my research of all my heath issues are things the kids of Vietnam are reporting, but the government won't touch the subject now! Unlike your dad my dad never spoke about Nam until years later! When it started to come out about the sickness others endured my mom happened to see a readers digest article about agent orange and freaked out at that time she was pregnant with me. My dad was never notified about a law suit, but he would've never taken the money anyway! My dad to was a marine I'm sorry this has affected us both and so many more!
I admire your search for the truth xxkeep going!
Thank you for sharing
God Bless You and your family....Salute
Great work!! I'm so sorry about your dad.
My father suffered from agent orange died of a rare cancer caused from this chemecial my dad died 2019
Agent orange killed my dad and left my younger brothers with major medical problems, including a rare blood cancer. I remember when my dad filed a claim before he died, but was told his claim wasn't timely. After he died, we had to fight for a year just to get a headstone over him. The military used him up and then discarded him, leaving my teenage brother without his dad. He was in the First Infantry Division. He died from prostrate cancer.
Great video,the forgotten war
Well done and important to see.
A good video Chris. I know it won't bring your dad back but I hope this video contributes to the reparation of others in their quest in getting justice and closure, even if only in the form of an apology for the use of these highly toxic chemicals used in and out of war!
Sadly the war machine only seems to view the men and women involved in conflicts as canon fodder and I'm sure that injustices like this will continue. You only have to see how civilians and servicemen have been exposed during atomic testing in both the U.S.A and the Pacific, not to mention the use of DU in the the Gulf War and Iraq and finally the use of nerve gas and psychotropic drugs on prisoners and servicemen as if lab rats in a Hollywood horror movie.
Your dad looked like a nice guy who enjoyed his family. I'm sure if he's watching UA-cam on a cloud somewhere with his buddies, they'll be clapping their hands and saying what a good job you did in the making of this!
My grandpa died from cancer. He worked at the Nuclear Bomb test sites in New Mexico after world war 2.....
My brother was killed by his country. I have been around this family from the day he died. Two days after we sent him home our government sent a check for 545 to cover his suit two days his wife or someone put the check in the bank. As you can imagine the family has been suffering for years. His daughter is sick all the time my family has been in every war down to my son because we love our country when are they going to show love to all the men and women who serve. He died in 94 suffered from 69to70.L ow life people i wish them the same.
We need to get this word out that Agent orange should not ever, ever be used again I have two family going through this at the moment
I just don't understand how anyone thought this was a good idea to destroy thousands of acres of land in Vietnam with this poison.....mind blowing.
And how nobody thought that maybe just maybe both sides would be exposed to the chemical is beyong me,worst thing is that it wasn't even that effective for their goal and was just a failure like the war itself.
The only thing we got out of this is birth deffects,cancer,destroyed land for decades.
@@karvast5726 wonder if the chemical executives would've thought this would be alright to spray on their property around their families and neighbors.
This was my job in the AirForce. We sprayed this and many more chemicals. My thought was I was helping the troops and the war effort. Today I carry the guilt from my part in the dispersal of these chemicals. I do suffer ailments from the chemicals
Gary T The guilt is not any Vietnam vet to carry, you were only doing as you and others were ordered, by people in higher positions who sat behind desks while the war was going on. Shalom
Thank you for this. My dear friend CSM Fred Marshall II lost a leg to agent orange and his health deteriorated. Once retired, Fred wrote constantly and spoke on freedom radio stations as to the evils taking place in the current govt system, which of course is NOT a Constitutional Republic but now an oligarchy.
it's not that they think "what needs to be done", it's how much money their shareholders can make and how much power and usurpation of the other they can bring about.
both my parents served in vietnam, my dad was a navy seal, he has been dealing with agent orange exposure since he got back from the 'nam as well as severe PTSD and my mom was in a mobile M.A.S.H unit and was exposed as well, they both have to deal with fucked up side effects from the chemical and the war in general, when my brother and I both enlisted my parents were proud but there was a sense of anger because they know from experience that the military gives 0 fucks about us, when I was in afghanistan there wasn't really any use of chemicals from either side so I'm thankful for that but when my brother served in the early 90's and was in Bosnia, he was exposed to chemicals and has suffered from psychological issues since
Well this makes your government suck ass ,sir.
Please, please tell me where, when and who used chemicals in Bosnia and Herzegovina!?
he wasnt exposed to chemical weapons in bosnia, he was exposed to chemicals in general and it fucked him up, not sure what chemicals though, never said he experienced chemical warfare over there
Sorry, but I understood You totally in different way! Bye
When I was screened for Agent Orange, in 1980, the doctor told me: "How could YOU be affected by agent orange? You were a pilot?", When I showed him the rash on my leg, that mysteriously appeared a week after I came home, in 1972, the doctor said nothing. He called in a "specialist"...who looked at it and ALSO..said nothing. He wrote out a prescription for some kind of cream...which DID make the rash disappear. I was surprised because I had been to many civilian doctors to try and fix that problem, in the years between 1972 and 1980...but to no avail. A skin doctor, I knew, told me they probably gave me a steroid ointment...that, in his words, "was like concrete. It covers the problem but doesn't fix it".
I'm sorry for your loss. veterans are always getting the short end of the stick. my dad was a ww2 navy veteran and whenever he went to the VA for something he got turned away. I never understood why he wouldn't complain or demand that he got the help he deserved but it was the way it was. I think the oil wells in Kuwait that saddam's army set on fire have contributed too many veterans getting cancer and other ailments from that War as well. I don't think they have had much luck either at persuading our government on the origin of their sicknesses. I'm sorry you don't have any memories of your dad. I do agree he does belong on the Vietnam memorial wall and should never be forgotten .
I wonder what happened to the guy holding the spray at the front?
My dad suffered from agent orange as well. If he wasn't in a temperature that wasn't just right...too hot or too cold, he was covered in hives head to toe. My earliest memories are him in his underwear scratching endlessly. He fought and fought and some kind of settlement was in sight...until he passed away. He passed in 2003. It so crazy how this young man's dad died EXACTLY like mine. He died from liver cancer too. And from the time he found out till he passed was almost 2 months! U would think that any kind of money the gov was supposed to be going to him would go to his kids, right??! Wrong. It was only to go to my mother...if they were still married. Fortunately for the Gov. they were recently divorced. And that was that. I think we got 600 dollars towards his funeral services. I can't believe this is how these men and their families are treated.
There is no way anyone can prove liver cancer is caused by a single entity any more than they can prove lung cancer was caused by smoking but it sure is assumed.
The TV movie "Unnatural Causes" starring John Ritter and Alfre Woodard...Very important film about the Vietnam War...Agent Orange....uncovered by a courageous woman in the Chicago VA. Watch for the great short vignette acted by Graham Greene, who was the medicine man in Dances With Wolves. I own this DVD bought from Amazon. Bill Kurtis, news anchor in Chicago, made an important documentary about Agent Orange.
Our brother was a flight line crew chief servicing AO planes on Okinawa. The DOD/VA lied for decades that those planes had been decontaminated and there was never any AO ever stored n Okinawa. The planes were not decontaminated before servicing and they uncovered huge dumps of buried AO drums on the island recently (2015). He had mysterious renal bleeding shortly after returning to civilian life in 1968...undiagnosed as renal cancer until he was near death in the late 80's.
My grandfather colonel Bigart, died of cancer brought on from effects of agent orange.
Their use of Agent Blue was even more pernicious
My husband developed a Heart condition then eventually was told he had ALS.When he died he was completely parialoised,What an awful way to die because he loved his country He died Sept 1st.2001.
A quote from a Vietnam war film, " You're trying to get rid of a headache by cutting off the head ". The countries who fought in Vietnam realised they couldn't win by fighting in the jungle, America's answer, get rid of the jungle !!.
also did you know the agent orange was first tested up here in Canada,in Gagetown New Brunswick
I was in a v.a rehab with a Vietnam vet whos skin was flaking off , his entire body was one big flake. He made my ptsd, tbi , seem minor in comparison.
Thank you John F. Kennedy, the man who authorized the use of Agent Orange in the Republic of Viet Nam and in Korea along the DMZ.
Most people point to LBJ for the Viet Nam War, but he inherited it.
The first person who had the ability to stop America going to Viet Nam was Woodrow Wilson when, in 1920, he refused a meeting with the man who would become Ho Chi Minh. The second man was Harry S. Truman in 1945. Both of them put the French back in what was called Indochina, even providing assistance.
JFK authorized Agent Orange, which has killed more people than all the bombs and bullets of that war. JFK also created the Green Berets and US Navy SEALs.
And while they belong on the Vietnam Wall, they are not recognized as eligible for that honor. It was this reason that I never mourned the murder of JFK by a Socialist Democrat.
You are 100 percent correct sir I'm surprised nobody has commented on your comment I studied America war history in college
Very well done ... So sorry for your loss 🇨🇦
My great uncle was in vietnam and was exposed but survived and the mixture or agent orange and PTSD is a bad combination
your right Christopher
The sad thing is the jungle plants eventually grew back.
Monsanto owes you.