I have this thought that if the writers are insisting the Actual Phantom Thieves are interacting with this new world, that could mean we are possibly dealing with either time travel or my grand thought, Parallel Worlds.
@Igor19485 he talks in cutscenes also, but only a little bit. He says "see ya" at the opening, "Aren't we missing someone?" At the beach episode, he says that the phantom thieves are taking the country on the big screen of Shibuya and says "Yeah" at the post credit scene of the OG game
So long as they're not the protagonist in the main game they can talk. Examples like Maya in Innocent Sin, Tatsuya in Eternal Punishment, Yu in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax and the various animations
Actually yes real Igor did pick joker while the the holy cup pick akach but the cup didn't nurture the akachi wildcard from so he seal igor and nurture jokee wild card and spilt the attendant into 2 @@robertoquintero5200
@@robertoquintero5200 yeah it here on the game ua-cam.com/video/QwLplhMDkgI/v-deo.htmlsi=4NZAO4Yrmf36X0C2 you can skip 2:14 or watch the beginning to 2:20 or the end up to you
Although the story of P5X is most likely a parallel timeline, I like the idea of the Phantom Thieves' appearances perhaps being cognitive beings somehow? If this is how the mass consciousness pictures the Phantom Thieves, then its like they're being manifested within the Metaverse by Wonder. Just a fun theory.
@@jaleelguimba8571I mean it could be since some of the supporting characters doesn’t appear in the game. Like the guy (forgot his name) that own the coffee cafe
0:56 is wallpaper material. Its honestly surprising how good the cutscenes look for a spin-off title. The fight with Joker was among the best cutscenes in the series, period.
@@jacksonbrickmedia939 mobile games are high quality nowadays. A game I really like is called Project Sekai. Despite its…fandom, the game is really good’! Good written characters that develop a lot and kinda relatable plots. The game also gets new music on an almost biweekly basis, which makes it stand out compared to other rhythm games where the set list is small and you have to pay for more tracks. Literally revitalized the vocaloid fandom. Mobile games just need a dev team that cares
probably just velvet room shenanigans, could be an echo like how the challenge version of the P3 protag and P4 protag can be fought as DLC in P5, that would most likely be my guess at a "cannon" approach to how he showed up and saved them
In my head canon, “Wonder” is Ren and Sumire’s son in the future and that somehow, Ren traveled into the future. 0:31 Ren was even giving him that “get up, boy! Stop slacking around. We got shadows to defeat ” kinda look. And at 0:39 “you ready, Saito?”
Well it’s confirmed that this is a parallel universe to the P5 timeline, but Wonder potentially being Ren and Sumire’s son in a possible future wouldn’t surprise me. Plus imagine the reaction Ren and Sumire would have finding out this kid is *THEIR* kid in the future along with the other Phantom Thieves, giving off major Sailor Moon vibes with their revelation lol.
Apparently the story with Wonder’s parents is that they’re out of the country for a whole year. This could imply that Sumire is on tour for her performances as a professional gymnastics performer and as much as they’d wanna bring Wonder/Saito Amamiya with them, he has school. On the flip side, Ren as a dad would be really too relax and laid back, letting his son have as much freedom as he wants (kinda like Toph Beifong in Legend Of Korra)
@@dellebelphine-moralez3510 True, I can see Sumire as the reluctant absent mother that still loves her son regardless of her position as a professional gymnast in the Olympics. Ren as a dad would try not to repeat his own parents mistake by abandoning him for the year of his probation as a teenager by allowing his own son to have much more freedom than he ever got when he was that age. Plus I think both Ren and Sumire would have certain memories come back when they find out their son has persona abilities like them and takes after his father with the inheritance of the Wild Card. Plus imagine the current timeline Ren and Sumire reaction to finding out Wonder is their son in the distant future. Let’s just say Sumire won’t be the only one going “.EXE has stopped working” and Ren would learn the Strawberry face ability REAL fast 😂
the dialogues translation literally... sorry if there's few mistake Ruferu: Wonder!! Ruferu: Who's that... guy? Joker: Follow me! Wonder & Joker: (calling their Persona) Joker: Keep resist it! last part.. kinda hard to heard because FukuJun talks really fast... so, I only heard as "Aragai" word
On the contrary, Joker’s last line in Chinese is “反抗吧” - “反抗“ means to resist or rebel That’s definitely in line with P5’s theme though I wonder what Joker’s advising Wonder to rebel against
@@acMineral Possibly the lack of desire to stick up for yourself in the world which seems to be the theme of P5X. The Demiurge in this game probably wants everyone to be pushovers similar to how Yaldabaoth wanted everyone to accept overbearing control over their life choices.
Only the (battle-use) characters pulled from the gacha system are cognitive beings, not those in the main story. The devs confirmed the Phantom Thieves will feature in future narratives, with Atlus mainly handling the storyline
so this joker was obviously not the real one. it was most likely a cognitive echo like many of this game's party members, as was confirmed by info released a while ago. which means wonder and his party might not actually meet the real phantom thieves until way later in the story, if they ever do meet them. and considering leblanc has a new bartender too the story is either so long after p5 that joker's party isn't active, and the velvet room REALLY wanted a new guest. or wonder is getting maruki'd into becoming a phantom thief. which fits with the first cutscene.
@@ۥۥۥٴٴٴٴۥNah just making it a dlc persona for 200 dollars for Chinese gacha lovers to myriad truth anything. I mean that would probably give them money for p6
Well this sure is getting even more interesting. I look forward to seeing more of how the story is going to handle the parallel universe stuff - it sure does help with setting this game as something at least a bit more than a mere P5 knockoff.
even though my boy joker aint the mc in this one, they at least did him some justice by making him look badass. honestly, thats all i can hope for everyone else from main canon. be portrayed as hella kickass in cutscenes then leave.
Can we have this team make action scenes for all the persona games moving forward because that’s one thing they absolutely nail better than the source company.
My theory is that the way the Phantom Thieves tie in this game is that their “spirits” remain in Mementos, and so what the new Persona-users are experiencing are the memories of the Phantom Thieves (Or maybe the explanation for this has been revealed for this already and I’m entirely wrong)
nah.. i think their gonna play with realities, like royal, and for some reason both realities are fusing, the game literally stars like 5 in Sae palace and then after the first fight there is a glitch and wonder shows up.
The Amala Network is a separate multiverse to the Persona Collective Unconscious multiverse in the list of Megami Tensei Great Reason (Axiom) emenations. Amala Network according to SMTV was destroyed by the Demi-Fiend and this allowed The Demi-Fiend to ascend past the material confines of his world to go wherever he pleases. That's why he was able to fight the Nahobino even though their worlds use completely different eschatological rules: One multiverse is forced to be stuck in a cycle of destruction and rebirth due to the Demiurge of the Amala Network "Kagutsuchi" feeling that to be fit for his "creation" while the other was accidentally stuck into a cycle of birth and rebirth because their Demiurge which was the God their Lucifer killed could only manage a Shekinah Glory of a city (a miraculous material hologram that can only be maintained moment to moment and not indefinitely) in Assiah/Malkuth instead of a permanent physical manifestation like other Demiurges' were capable of triggering in the Megami Tensei multiverse. The Great Will created both demiurges in Nocturne and V as to cement control over the consciousness manifestations of each multiverse. The Great Will is not the Great Reason. The real reason The Great Reason/Axiom is separate from YHVH/The Great Will is due to one simple thing, The Great Reason is a formless and ineffable reason for existence that only certain people have come into contact with while The Great Will is just the source dimension that makes the Demiurge heads/manifestations that appear throughout the mainline SMT related cosmologies. Stephen and Maruki were the only the only two individuals who have contacted The Great Reason and thus is the reason as to why they are so powerful, more powerful than the infinite YHVH heads at the end of SMTIVA. YHVH separated himself from The Great Reason as to make himself the true creator of physical reality causing the events we see in every single game. Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk!
im guessing the last vid was the shadow wonder or some sort, while this one is the tru one Cant wait for globallll i hope the story's great just like p5r
So this has got to be related to the online functionality in the original game, right? How another phantom thief could help you out if a team member was held hostage?
"Change the world, my final message"
- Joker Probably
😂
This is very Tatsuya to Maya *spoilers: P2 Is and Ep endings*
@@robertoquintero5200 eyo someone who played p2
Actually fits his personality extremely well
@@robertoquintero5200 makes sense tbh. P5 takes a lot from P2.
Wonder: "Why are you so cool?"
Joker: "I'm on NG+."
I have this thought that if the writers are insisting the Actual Phantom Thieves are interacting with this new world, that could mean we are possibly dealing with either time travel or my grand thought, Parallel Worlds.
Considering that the events of P5X are only slightly different to the events of P5 (from what we've seen so far), you might not be wrong
They already confirmed that they're pararel worlds and that wonder and Joker are connected
I like the parallel world idea because time travel seems a little unlikely.
According to a movie poster it takes place in the 2030s iirc, it could be either one
@@sato-lr2ln it’s been discussed by the community that’s probably when the movie takes place, not the P5X game itself.
Am I the only one who think that joker is legitimately talking is more insane than him disappearing?
Joker talks quite a lot in P5 tbh
@@MetalGearEnthusiast If you consider repeating same phrases 100 times than yeah
Nothing really out of the ordinary. He talks in small chunks just like in the opening of original P5
@Igor19485 he talks in cutscenes also, but only a little bit. He says "see ya" at the opening, "Aren't we missing someone?" At the beach episode, he says that the phantom thieves are taking the country on the big screen of Shibuya and says "Yeah" at the post credit scene of the OG game
So long as they're not the protagonist in the main game they can talk. Examples like Maya in Innocent Sin, Tatsuya in Eternal Punishment, Yu in Persona 4 Arena Ultimax and the various animations
Joker is such a chad in this cutscene, he just shows up helps wonder without an explanation and leaves
Gigachad Wildcard
@@sunwukong825 Indeed
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Remember folks;Joker so far is the only mainline Persona protagonist without The World arcana so far in the series.
@@Kronosdoesshit he does get it in the end of the game tho
Joker: I am thou, thou art I, i'm the true protag to Persona 5
He wasnt picked by Igor himself...so no...
@@robertoquintero5200 he was picked by Igor but made a deal with the grail. They didn't just let some random nobody into the velvet room.
Actually yes real Igor did pick joker while the the holy cup pick akach but the cup didn't nurture the akachi wildcard from so he seal igor and nurture jokee wild card and spilt the attendant into 2 @@robertoquintero5200
The holy cup can pick wild card Users????
@@robertoquintero5200 yeah it here on the game ua-cam.com/video/QwLplhMDkgI/v-deo.htmlsi=4NZAO4Yrmf36X0C2 you can skip 2:14 or watch the beginning to 2:20 or the end up to you
“Keep up… and don’t embarrass me.”
Sounds like something he'd say to Mishima if he became a Phantom Thief
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I heard Akechi’s voice while reading this
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I heard Akechi’s voice while reading this
Akechi in a nutshell
Saves guy
Refuses to elaborate
Leaves
Will be more like:
Saves guy
Collaborates with the same guy to win the battle
Refuses to elaborate
Dissapears
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Although the story of P5X is most likely a parallel timeline, I like the idea of the Phantom Thieves' appearances perhaps being cognitive beings somehow? If this is how the mass consciousness pictures the Phantom Thieves, then its like they're being manifested within the Metaverse by Wonder. Just a fun theory.
Can it be the future?
@@jaleelguimba8571I mean it could be since some of the supporting characters doesn’t appear in the game. Like the guy (forgot his name) that own the coffee cafe
@@wynxlinxzpt Sojiro?
I think this is probably a sequel of sorts to P5 if the 2026 date is any indication.
It is at least somewhat confirmed to play after Persona 5. The calendar shows the year of 201X in Persona 5 but in P5X it's 202X.
Showing up to save people and then disappearing is usually Batman's thing.
0:56 is wallpaper material. Its honestly surprising how good the cutscenes look for a spin-off title. The fight with Joker was among the best cutscenes in the series, period.
Not the fact it’s a good looking spinnof is cool but the fact it’s a mobile game that looks like this is crazy
bro got that the batman lighting on
@@jacksonbrickmedia939 man this thing gonna have Gebshin level memory size
@@jacksonbrickmedia939 mobile games are high quality nowadays. A game I really like is called Project Sekai. Despite its…fandom, the game is really good’! Good written characters that develop a lot and kinda relatable plots. The game also gets new music on an almost biweekly basis, which makes it stand out compared to other rhythm games where the set list is small and you have to pay for more tracks. Literally revitalized the vocaloid fandom.
Mobile games just need a dev team that cares
..
Joker's had enough practice to know how to make a guest appearance in a mobile game memorable.
0:58 "I don't feel so good, Mr. Stark."
The way joker shows up is just awesome but how did he disappear like that
@@arzfan29 It is cannon, it just takes place in a parallel universe apparently
probably just velvet room shenanigans, could be an echo like how the challenge version of the P3 protag and P4 protag can be fought as DLC in P5, that would most likely be my guess at a "cannon" approach to how he showed up and saved them
@@arzfan29it got confirmed canon months ago.
@@arzfan29yeah it's not canon, it confirmed it's not by months ago
its a manifestation of his cognition. Its the same "reason" they use to allow you to Fight P4 and p3 protagonist.
shows up
saves wonder
"keep up"
does wonder's highlight attack with him
"keep resisting"
leaves
Bro Joker literally just did: *Bro get up we ain’t done*
In my head canon, “Wonder” is Ren and Sumire’s son in the future and that somehow, Ren traveled into the future.
0:31 Ren was even giving him that “get up, boy! Stop slacking around. We got shadows to defeat ” kinda look.
And at 0:39 “you ready, Saito?”
That would be pretty cool, tbh lol
That makes sense actually
Well it’s confirmed that this is a parallel universe to the P5 timeline, but Wonder potentially being Ren and Sumire’s son in a possible future wouldn’t surprise me. Plus imagine the reaction Ren and Sumire would have finding out this kid is *THEIR* kid in the future along with the other Phantom Thieves, giving off major Sailor Moon vibes with their revelation lol.
Apparently the story with Wonder’s parents is that they’re out of the country for a whole year. This could imply that Sumire is on tour for her performances as a professional gymnastics performer and as much as they’d wanna bring Wonder/Saito Amamiya with them, he has school.
On the flip side, Ren as a dad would be really too relax and laid back, letting his son have as much freedom as he wants (kinda like Toph Beifong in Legend Of Korra)
@@dellebelphine-moralez3510
True, I can see Sumire as the reluctant absent mother that still loves her son regardless of her position as a professional gymnast in the Olympics. Ren as a dad would try not to repeat his own parents mistake by abandoning him for the year of his probation as a teenager by allowing his own son to have much more freedom than he ever got when he was that age. Plus I think both Ren and Sumire would have certain memories come back when they find out their son has persona abilities like them and takes after his father with the inheritance of the Wild Card.
Plus imagine the current timeline Ren and Sumire reaction to finding out Wonder is their son in the distant future. Let’s just say Sumire won’t be the only one going “.EXE has stopped working” and Ren would learn the Strawberry face ability REAL fast 😂
the dialogues translation literally...
sorry if there's few mistake
Ruferu: Wonder!!
Ruferu: Who's that... guy?
Joker: Follow me!
Wonder & Joker: (calling their Persona)
Joker: Keep resist it!
last part.. kinda hard to heard because FukuJun talks really fast... so, I only heard as "Aragai" word
On the contrary, Joker’s last line in Chinese is “反抗吧” - “反抗“ means to resist or rebel
That’s definitely in line with P5’s theme though I wonder what Joker’s advising Wonder to rebel against
@@acMineral Possibly the lack of desire to stick up for yourself in the world which seems to be the theme of P5X. The Demiurge in this game probably wants everyone to be pushovers similar to how Yaldabaoth wanted everyone to accept overbearing control over their life choices.
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Joker now officially speaks his lines
Joker: "My job here is done!" *disappears*
Bro really appears just to tell Wonder to lock in then disappeared like that lmfao.
I feel like a lot of people are forgetting that they said the phantom thieves will be congnitive versions of the normal thieves
Only the (battle-use) characters pulled from the gacha system are cognitive beings, not those in the main story. The devs confirmed the Phantom Thieves will feature in future narratives, with Atlus mainly handling the storyline
so this joker was obviously not the real one. it was most likely a cognitive echo like many of this game's party members, as was confirmed by info released a while ago.
which means wonder and his party might not actually meet the real phantom thieves until way later in the story, if they ever do meet them.
and considering leblanc has a new bartender too the story is either so long after p5 that joker's party isn't active, and the velvet room REALLY wanted a new guest.
or wonder is getting maruki'd into becoming a phantom thief. which fits with the first cutscene.
This was confirmed by Perfect World to be a parallel world to the Persona EP timeline.
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@@phillemon7664wait, they're actually acknowledging persona 2?
@@thighgrainewdym persona 2 2nd world got destroyed or am I wrong?
@@phillemon7664 Wait, didn't the Innocent Sin timeline get destroyed?
The goat returns
0:16 joker when he ranks up chariot to 7
Joker: Another spin-off....how many time do I have to save the world? I even dance but no fighting game like P4 arena.
Imagine if yu narukami showed up
By the myriad truths 💀💀
@@breadtoastd don't get triggered 🤦♂️
I remember seeing somewhere that P5X had game files of Izanagi-no-Okami, so why not 🤯
..-.
@@ۥۥۥٴٴٴٴۥNah just making it a dlc persona for 200 dollars for Chinese gacha lovers to myriad truth anything. I mean that would probably give them money for p6
Well this sure is getting even more interesting. I look forward to seeing more of how the story is going to handle the parallel universe stuff - it sure does help with setting this game as something at least a bit more than a mere P5 knockoff.
That really was Joker saving Wonder and then disappearing
when i saw the little crossed impact from their duo attack i fucking said outloud "thats what the X is for"
Interesting how this is the opposite of the when they fought has to make you wonder what's actually going on here
Joker really showed up, saved the day, refused to elaborate & left
even though my boy joker aint the mc in this one, they at least did him some justice by making him look badass. honestly, thats all i can hope for everyone else from main canon.
be portrayed as hella kickass in cutscenes then leave.
Joker be like: "Bey i'm going back in my banner see ya in 1000 pulls"
idk but the cinematic of joker dissolving into thin air made me very emotional 😢
Joker appearing got me all smily
Can we have this team make action scenes for all the persona games moving forward because that’s one thing they absolutely nail better than the source company.
yeah, like how we had fighting in the cutscenes, I wanna see in that persona 6, people fighting with their personas in cutscenes
I mean let's see what atlus is cooking for P6 lol
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Two Phantom Thieves From Different Dimensions Team Up
0:58 meanwhile in Jujutsu Kaisen
Joker / Ren : _You Are My Special_
Wonder : really ???
Stand proud wonder
You are strong
Holy crap…HE SPOKE!
Thank you, Joker.
Joker turned into Batman.
his people needed him
Ain't no way he just said ARAGAI and faded out of existence
My head cannon is that joker appers to save him says "get good loser" and then just fades away
Joker: I don't feel good...
Spiderman meme
I hope this is like an introduction to multiplayer mode where you can interact with other players
Joker: I've done my part. I'mma dip.
They put some of that persona 3 reload budget into this game man.
Into the writing stuff...
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honestly impressed with how good the animation looks, this is super cool
most likely they are interacting with each other through a parallel timeline I think its neat I hope the story will be enjoyable
Why do I keep randomly finding new Persona 5 stuff I’ve never heard about. First the anime, then Strikers and now this
It's just my idea, or at the beginning, when he says 'Wonder,' it sounds like Morgana. ?
Yeah it does
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This is going to be very interesting, I can't wait to play ❤
After All, Phantom Thieves always help fellow Phantom Thieves. Even when they are universes apart.
Im thinking this is the parallel world or a what if yaldabaoth failed or didnt takeover the velvet room.
Sure hope there'll be a story mode when it officially gets released.
there has been a story since beta 1
@@FazPersona I know, it's just... We just keep getting nothing but betas for at least year now. I'm dying for an official release date!
>Save newbie
>Refuse to elaborate further
>Leaves
"I don't feel so good.."
Im sure there is something that Will happens very soon !!!! They cant be that without smt after that 😢
this has to mean that everyone's favorite phantom thieves get involved with what's going on with this new cast :)
My theory is that the way the Phantom Thieves tie in this game is that their “spirits” remain in Mementos, and so what the new Persona-users are experiencing are the memories of the Phantom Thieves (Or maybe the explanation for this has been revealed for this already and I’m entirely wrong)
nah.. i think their gonna play with realities, like royal, and for some reason both realities are fusing, the game literally stars like 5 in Sae palace and then after the first fight there is a glitch and wonder shows up.
Looking cool Joker
And thus the amala labyrinth gained a new realm
The Amala Network is a separate multiverse to the Persona Collective Unconscious multiverse in the list of Megami Tensei Great Reason (Axiom) emenations. Amala Network according to SMTV was destroyed by the Demi-Fiend and this allowed The Demi-Fiend to ascend past the material confines of his world to go wherever he pleases. That's why he was able to fight the Nahobino even though their worlds use completely different eschatological rules:
One multiverse is forced to be stuck in a cycle of destruction and rebirth due to the Demiurge of the Amala Network "Kagutsuchi" feeling that to be fit for his "creation" while the other was accidentally stuck into a cycle of birth and rebirth because their Demiurge which was the God their Lucifer killed could only manage a Shekinah Glory of a city (a miraculous material hologram that can only be maintained moment to moment and not indefinitely) in Assiah/Malkuth instead of a permanent physical manifestation like other Demiurges' were capable of triggering in the Megami Tensei multiverse. The Great Will created both demiurges in Nocturne and V as to cement control over the consciousness manifestations of each multiverse. The Great Will is not the Great Reason.
The real reason The Great Reason/Axiom is separate from YHVH/The Great Will is due to one simple thing, The Great Reason is a formless and ineffable reason for existence that only certain people have come into contact with while The Great Will is just the source dimension that makes the Demiurge heads/manifestations that appear throughout the mainline SMT related cosmologies. Stephen and Maruki were the only the only two individuals who have contacted The Great Reason and thus is the reason as to why they are so powerful, more powerful than the infinite YHVH heads at the end of SMTIVA. YHVH separated himself from The Great Reason as to make himself the true creator of physical reality causing the events we see in every single game.
Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk!
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These cutscenes have their hook in me and i need to know what's going on
Bro’s plot armor is the mc from the previous gams
There’s gotta be a marvel parallel universe thing going on bruh, I’m enjoying it
IT IS TOO MUCH !! WHEN ARE THE GLOBAL RELEASED❤❤❤❤😂 i wanna play this game !!! 😂
Anybody else hearing Akechi screaming in jealousy
not to be that guy, but what's the song starting at 1:17 ?
Edited: it's called "Fatal Desire"
THEY HAVE TO RELEASE THIS INTERNATIONALLY THEYRE COOKING SO HARD
Joker looks zesty in the thumbnail
See this is what persona 5 should’ve had. Imagine if P4 protagonist even cameo’d
So that's what it looks like to other when we use a goho-m
Kasumi at the beggining of the game be like:
Mona, I don't feel so good....
Classic Jokers 🃏
I would be all for Persona 6 still being the phantom thieves stealing hearts, but globally instead of just Japan.
The mystery deepens!
He's BAAAAACK!!!! ❤
So im guessing this is early game and Joker will be out mentor of sorts.
Amazing!!!! ... or should I say Wonder?
im guessing the last vid was the shadow wonder or some sort, while this one is the tru one
Cant wait for globallll
i hope the story's great just like p5r
Can we please just make this a full game already, PLEASE 🙏🏼
Guys dont worry he's was just completing a request on the thevies site for that 100%
WE NEED THIS GAME IN ENGLISH
wait what did I just watch- JUST HOW MANY GAMES ARE THERE UNDER P5
I have high expectations for this gacha game since I heard it's supervised by Atlus.
joker in cognitive wolrd, does'nt mean that is the realy joker. it might be a shadow joker
... Lets talk about pararel universes
Can anyone explain why Joker helped Wonder in this cutscene? Especially since they were fighting back in Sae's palace?
I need the release date for this. Like, For Real. And I hope it gets global release.
Is this Joker a cognition that is chilling in the Metaverse???
what on earth are they cooking???? I can't tell if i should be excited or scared of this game
It gonna be available on PlayStation too so give a year or 2 and will get this fully English dub
Knew my boy wasn't washed😭🤞🤞🤞
Of course not. It was a dream sequence.
"rebel"
*disappears*
if anyone wonder what he said
So this has got to be related to the online functionality in the original game, right? How another phantom thief could help you out if a team member was held hostage?
Looking cool Joker!