Part 1: Does the Marvel Mystery Oil trick REALLY work to raise low compression?
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- In this video, I share the story of how we used the "marvel mystery oil trick" to raise compression on a motorcycle about to head to the junkyard! Learn what we did and how this old beloved trick saved the day! This is part 1 so stay tuned for part 2 after some miles. Watch that video here:
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Interesting result. Having been an aircraft dealer I tested MMO on several high-time air-cooled aircraft engines and a couple of 470 Cu-in Aircraft engines on twin engine Beechcraft B55 Baron that had been run at low-power cruise for several hundred hours and had developed excessive ring leakage and all 6 cylinders were essentially un-airworthy aat below 50psi on an 80 psi leak test at TDC. As a test on one engine I added about 10% MMO to the engine oil and 10% Rislone to the other engine and in about 3 hours of normal operation, cly leakages on the MMO engine came up to 55 to 60PSI over 80, and on the Rislone engine, all leak pressure were up to between 60 to 70 psi. after 8 hours the MMO engine pressures were in the high 60 to mid 70's, and the Rislone engine, all cylinders were in the high 70's. Cutting the oil filters on both engines showed a large amount of fine carbon in the MMO engine and a concerning amount off larger chunks of carbon in the Rislone, some of which were semi-circular. I went on to run both engines with the MMO and Rislone for about 25 hours and The Rislone engine developed pretty excessive oil leaks on the crankcase mounting surfaces. On tear down for Overhaul the Rislone engine was noticeably cleaner than the MMO engine, espicially around the piston skirts and piston rings. The MMO engine piston rings still had a lot of carbon build-up.
In retrospect, Risone was much more effective but I think too aggressive for aircraft use. Neither Rislone or MMO are approved for use in Aircraft engine oil.
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What kind of rislone did you use?
@@RandomSonomaMedia I used the original blue colored Rislone engine treatment in the yellow bottle. I think they changed the name to "Maximum Performance Engine Treatment" and now they have a replacement called "HIGH MILEAGE ENGINE TREATMENT (4102)"
I add a quart of MMO to every tank of fuel in my powerstroke ford diesel, the truck has 299,000 miles on it, still has OEM injectors and runs like new. I have used marvel mystery oil for the past 40+ years and I think it is the best thing since sliced bread.
I put a few cap fills in my tank every fill up and I'm driving a 2008 Toyota. Never any issues. Seems to run better.
Same here 299 k miles on my ford also but never used any oil mystery.Fird just makes great trucks that last for ever.
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Magically marvelous!
My Ford truck just hit 345,796 miles .
I use a qt with every oil change and 4 oz occasionally when I fill up at the pump . Not even a tick in the engine !
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@@How2Wrench Can MMO in oil eat the crank bearings ? They suggest to replace 20% of oil capacity and drive till next oil change )
The two main benefits of mmo is keeps rings from sticking and allows motor oil get to where it needs to be to properly lubricate engine
Really good video but can't believe all the negative comments! MMO is also great in the crankcase for cleaning up sludge build up on the valve train components for OHC engines. Takes around 6K miles and perhaps a lot of low mileage oil filter as well as oil changes (oil gets dark pretty quick).
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I would definitely like to see the compression ratio after having run the bike for a half hour or so. But it's nice to see some measurable differences with a product that are not just anecdotal in nature.
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agree ,as any oil will make a film between the rings & the cylinder walls & add compression .. i have a very worn out briggs 5 hp in a splitter of mine , so i add the stuff directly into the fuel .. it does seem to help the compression issue a bit (more power) but as soon as I stop adding oil to the gas ..it obviously looses the added benefit as the piston 7 rings are still simply worn out & not sealing too well .
I got a vw jetta 2000 with 357000 km ,and and I just got it a few months ago. I put so mmo in every time i go fill up the tank, it works, the Idle is smooth, no more miss fire and with the new fuel filter it even better.
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MMO is simply magic. I use it in all my engines and have found that for top end maintenance once a year. I do a "cylinder enema", I bring the cylinder to TDC, then using an adapter for the spark plug which has a clear line and valve, I overfill the cylinder (excess goes into the clear line) so as to flood the cylinder and valve faces. I slowly rock the crank a few degrees and let it sit overnight. I then drain and install a clean plug and repeat for each cylinder. From sticky valves to stuck rings it works great a cleaning out the sludge.
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Can MMO in oil eat the crank bearings ? They suggest to replace 20% of oil capacity and drive till next oil change )
Any oil will improve compression on a test if the rings are leaky. The real 'Marvel' would be if it holds the compression after running substantially to burn that oil off. Would have been nice to see a final compression test after running.
I came back to ask what the compression was like after it ran and the oil burned off.
If it's stuck rings,,,. And now they're unstuck,,,,. Compression will rise and stay there,,,. The oil or additives will burn off within 10 minutes,,. I've been doing this for over 40 years and watering my Pistons to,,,,
Thank you! Some one who has common sense.
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Near the end, do I hear a single cylinder backfiring?
Great video, I've been using MMO for years, works like a charm!
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Would it work on 2 strokes?
Looks like a newer style bike. MMO is great stuff for sure. Works great in the gas tank to help keep fuel injectors clean too.
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Greywolf79 97 ok got ya :)
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Thanks Shane, MMO says that you can add it to you're engine oil! Would you? when would you and how much? Cheers.
Nice job. Those engines are bullet proof but sometimes the rings stick.
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What was the compression after some time on the running engine? A follow up is in need for sure, otherwise your just guessing. Cheers, Doug
MegaCountach I should’ve mentioned we did a third compression test after a few heats cycles and it was 200-205 psi. Also the second compression test was after running one heat cycle. No guessing here...compression doesn’t get better running in 20-30 minutes if it was a bad ring, piston, or cylinder. The customer has 750 miles on it now (been crazy cold and snowing still in Iowa). Cheers, Shane 😊
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Made a part 2. Find it on my channel!
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The cylinders are candid you have to set the bike up so the cylinders are straight up and down for all the oil to sit on all the Rings and it loosen them when you put oil in a cylinder it brings a compression up right off the bat that tells you you have bad rings so run by for a while and compression will probably drop back down maybe unless you loosen the Rings
That's a good additional point. I do that on the bench but it really wouldn't be that hard to do with jacking this bike as needed either.
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Higher compression might just blow a head gasket.... just something to think about.
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MMO IS AN OLD AVIATION SECRETE....
SOME OLD ENGINES WERENT ALLOWED TO FLY WITHOUT IT....
IT WORKS BEST IF ITS USED FROM EARLY ON INCLUDING BREAK IN....
IF ITS ALWAYS USED IN CRANK AND FUEL....THE ENGINE WILL BE LIKE NEW AFTER 200K....NO CARBON ...NO SLUDGE...SEALS GOOD....EVEN GASKETS .....MMO HAS ITS OWN SECRETS
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I love using this stuff.
I've actually pored 20ml into each carb suction hose under tank, then refitted so conduct engine carbon clean on 1st fazer1000, now got 2nd fazer1000 and need do same but also like idea doing this, is it easy to get out with syringe once in cylinders? As dont want fail plugs, did that before putting whole bottle into tank lol, lazy, 4oz works well in tank.
My zx9r it worked wonders on poring into carb suction hose, then iridium new plugs, bike wasnt running on all cylinders then was and was brilliant
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It works if everything else good if have a spark plugs lost you sol.
I was thinking of putting this in my motorcycle oil about 100 miles before my oil change, is MMO bad for my wet clutch?
Thanks for commenting and adding value to our community! I personally have only used it in the application I've shown to "unstick" rings.
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No, not if you have a wet clutch, engine and transmission share the same oil.
A modern "euro car" motor oil may be better way to improve engine performance as they are rated to higher temperature specs for turbo high heat conditions with detergents added and also back when MMO was developed motor oils are not the same as they are today. I tried MMO in an engine that is burning oil and it burned MMO in half the time as a "euro car" 0W-20 oil. Where the Castrol Edge was burning 1 quart per 1000km, I burned a quart of MMO in less than 500km. There is something to be said about modern oil specifications, esp. long life types that have had years of real engineering and tests done vs an old product which sells itself based on old wives tales and heresay. It may have been great back in the old days when motor oil was not very well designed. If you look at some of the videos where people tried cleaning spark plugs MMO vs other types did not do so well. I feel Gumout Tuneup is a much better oil additive and a proven injector cleaner as a gas additive. That also increases compression so go figure.
Shane, i was thought to go 4 puffs on snap on compression gauge, you went till it stopped moving.
Lime Some are even taught to go 10 puffs even.
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What about high compression on a NOS 2 stroke? Can't pull the pull cord? Suggestions.
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Does the engine smoke a lot when starts? For how long if does it?
Thats only good for verifying a ring problem.
Are you failing to understand that a cylinder filled with oil with increase in compressor due to the oil being a restriction for air to escape....
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For the bike, any ill effects on the clutch????
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Did you pour the mmo into the spark plug hole im newer to the mechanic world and I have a Honda 4 wheeler with low compression and I’m just wondering where to put it
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What is the composition of MMO? whats in it?
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how much marvel mystery oil do you put in each cylinder . thank you
I usually start with just. a couple capfulls. I have used "more" on a seized motor to help unstick it.
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You’re lowering the volume on top of the piston because there’s still oil in it. 🤦🏻♂️ like decking the heads
Was that a wet test or a dry test?
Wet test
Would this work for a 2stroke bike
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If the compression is higher on a few cylinders then stock,,, and lower on compression on a few others,,,. It's a carbon issue,,,. Marvel Mystery Oil in the fuel,,, then some ,,. soak on the tops of the Pistons,,,. Then use a Windex bottle with water in it,,. Spray it in your carburetors,,,. Or let it be drawn in through a vacuum line,,, Water your Pistons,,,
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How do you recommend on how to do it on my atv?
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Cun you use it on a atv?
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It is a problematic fluid, It is mostly used to improve engine’s performance before selling the bike in order to avoid the price loss.
You should upload another video that will help detecting the use of this product before buying a new motorcycle.
גיא לכיש no it works he just uploaded another video 800 miles away compression still good,,,, sometimes it's just the ring stuck in carbon Murphy's Miracle Oil will loosen them up and restore compression you can also use Liquid wrench or you can use automatic transmission fluid in a little bit of diesel,,, if the cylinder walls are worn out and the Rings are worn out this won't help
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You want to put Marvel oil in your engine oil fine, but never, and I mean never put it in the tank of your car or truck. It is one sure way of fouling your oxygen sensors and your catalytic converter early. This kind of thing worked on old cars without all the modern pollution control nonsense. And for those who don't know the cost of these components can be very expensive.
Jeez. I put 941 mls in my full tank every fall. I thought it was good for it. I developed a bad oxygen sensor near catalitic converter (engine light on). No fuel injection problems on my 03 Saturn. I also plan to flush engine in spring before I change my oil with 5/30 penzoil platinum oil change.
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I’m trying to buy a 1993 Suzuki gsxr 750 for $440$ from eBay do you think is good idea.the 100 psi all 4 cylinders
I'd go for it...always a risk but with should run with 100 psi and since its all the same, it would mostly get better and they may have even done the test wrong, producing lower than real numbers...I have a full line of detailed video on that for members!
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I did get it is was not good it had a blow head gasket
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Stay away from Marvel Mystery oil. Unless you DO want low compression.
Could you explain in more detail or the reason?
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