That's why plot is a separate thing from a story. This is the story as it happened, but the original plot portrays the story in a way that is engaging and interesting while allowing you to learn along with the main character. This is still really cool to see obviously, but the fact that plotting events of the same story in a different way can completely change the viewer's experience is why writing is an art!
@@WiiDSCube especially when it's just presented, without some character explaining the context of each bit as you go. when they respect me as the reader/viewer I respect them more as the writer lol
This is what I think every stall does. Stall #1 (when closed) brings you back in time (5-10 seconds). Stall #2 (only used by survivor Pete) brings you back 2 mins. Stall #3 is the same as stall #1. Stall #4 makes a copy of someone after a set amount of time. All four stalls' internal time is stopped when open.
(REPOST) I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference) So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
i think that the fourth stall just sends you back in time, and the 1st stall mostly set people through time in large intervals, like sending "murderer pete" from the end of the of the short film to the start.
I humbly disagree. The note said it was random. Back and forward. While extremely well done, I don't think this video has quite nailed the timeline of the paradox.
@@cursedemperor9600 bro I remember when I first saw this video that's what I thought of!! Just coming back to these short film channels. So much better than normal UA-cam drivel
So the note was always right, just misinterpreted. "kill your future" meant letting go of the meeting of his life and the future of his Career because it was making him that bad person. only when he tosses the suit, the files, and his watch, with no intent to go to the meeting was he able to break the cycle
I actually had a small theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
Imagine you're in a room. In this room, there's a door. Opening it leads you to the exact same room you're originally in. Upon opening the door, you see yourself opening the door. Another way of thinking of this is the portal gun from portal. You shoot the portal gun at one wall and another on the opposite end of the same wall.
I agree! In an over simplified, strawman way, he basically created a physical manifestation of his "bad person", and had him killed (metaphorically his work-life/seeing his own evil) to be able to escape the loop. I also love the theory that he humbled himself, became a janitor and left that roll there intentionally. @@eZeero
Aaaaaaaand for the non-weeb-o-fied to the point of perpetual loneliness..... A genjutsu is created when a ninja controls the chakra flow of a target's cerebral nervous system, thereby affecting their five senses giving the jutsu caster full control over their five senses. This is frequently used to create false images and/or trick the body into believing its has experienced physical pain Izanami (イザナミ), formally referred to with the honorific Izanami-no-Mikoto (伊弉冉尊/伊邪那美命, meaning "She-who-invites" or the "Female-who-invites"), is the creator deity of both creation and death in Japanese mythology, as well as the Shinto mother goddess Sasuke and Itachi team up to stop Kabuto's Reanimation Jutsu. But Kabuto's new ability to use Nature Energy has made him a difficult target for the brothers. Sasuke puts the plan into action, launching an arrow at Kabuto. Kabuto attempts to free himself from the arrow and with Itachi rushing in, he grabbed the sword and stabbed him. It is however revealed to be a crow clone. The real Itachi uses his Sharingan and then cuts off one of Kabuto's horns. Dont worry if you dont get this bit, its just weebs referencing some naruto garbage.....
@@heatedturtle659 ...i thought I replied when I saw this the first time...probably got distracted...or stepped into the wrong stall 😆 In all fairness, it was totally copy pastaed from google. Credit goes to whoever wrote the articles I ripped off. I just chose the most straight forward explanations. Though i did piece the third one together, regardless of how I feel towards the work as a whole (we all have our opinions over various artworks, that's called freedom) hopefully it adequately described the events. I can only give one thumb per comment, since that one is a little stale have another, mate 😎👍
I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video. The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference) So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
i love how it's implied that since he killed a ton of versions of himself, the heartless version of him would have messed up the meeting. also, the janitor's name isn't janus, it's janice, but it's a cool theory.
I’m certain it’s an alias created by future him due to the “you’re a bad person” line then noticing the lights, which is the same exact thing he did when he was held at gun point. 100% the alias is a reference to Janus though
I saw someone do it, Memento actually makes so much sense in chronological order that it causes it to be a boring story if told forwards that's an epic story told backwards.
They had that as a feature on the DVD release. Basically you just do the black-and-white scenes from start to finish, then all the colour scenes finish to start.
This was good. Im curious why you didnt leave the 330 shot at the end. It was a good perspective to see jacketless guy go from arguing if he or past him should go in the stall to future him coming out demanding he get in the stall but im curious about him figuring it out at the 330 shooting and then seeing the rampage
I thought that the scene at the end needed to go at the end because of the poster. The 330 shot had the poster being written on with a marker and in the final shot of the edit, the poster with marker streaks was there and ripped up by the Protagonist. None the less thanks for the comment bud!
I liked the subtle references at the start. 1:20 'His door closed, my door opened' - On the toilet paper was writing saying 'One door closes, another opens' 1:25 'This is my future' - Kind of funny as he's stuck in this kind of loop 1:35 'Stall, Craig!' - He uses bathroom stalls to travel through time 1:40 (Snaps fingers at janitor) - An impatient guy gets all the time in the world (using time travel) 1:54 'If anybody screws this pitch up, I will kill them' - He screws everything up by not getting in the stall at 7:13 by not getting into the stall and in the end, dies 2:01 'I will literally shoot them in the head' - Gets shot in the head in the end 2:17 'You are a bad person' - This one is obvious, but at 12:47, he calls himself a bad person, like the janitor did 2:22 'Uh huh, and you're a janitor' - Not really a reference, but there's a theory saying he becomes the janitor and then gets trapped in this paradox, meeting his past self 2:26 'One day, you might just get a good look at yourself. One day, you might not like what you see' - He does get a good look at past and future selves, and in fact, he does not like what he sees towards the end
This is my take on the film. I hope it helps some in understanding the film. (Make sure you watch it first!) PART ONE: I’m sure I’ve made some mistakes, and possibly the plot has a couple of holes, which time travel paradox doesn’t? Let me know if you picked up on something I missed, or if you think that I got something wrong. I’m sure I have. Three assumptions: One: We are following the story of the fist guy, who I believe is the protagonist, and the fourth guy, who I believe is the antagonist. (First and fourth, not in the order they appear in the paradox, but in order of when we meet them.) Three: The guy is not experiencing the time loop in sequence. It is random. Two: The timeline is often different inside and outside the stall. That is, it might be 3:20, but when he opens a stall door, he might encounter someone from 3:30. While it is 3:30 to his other self in the stall (or when he emerges), it is still 3:20 for him in his timeline. @ 0:05 Title sequence: Stalled (written on the wall as graffiti and the janitor wipes it off. Great title sequence.) @ 0:24 Phone call: Foreshadowing: The time on his watch is 3:10, but his friend says it is 3:30. (This gives him opportunity to let us know he is wearing a precision time piece.) “His door closed and my door opened.” “My moment. My future.” “Stall them.” (Possibly more of a pun than a foreshadow, but it does foreshadow the importance of the stalls in the time paradox.) @1:05 He snaps his fingers at the janitor ordering towels from him and then rudely snatches them from the janitor’s hands, showing what a rude, disrespectful man he is. “If anybody screws this up I will kill them. I will literally shoot them in the head.” @1:40 Janitor tells him he’s a bad person and that one day he might get a look at himself and might not like what he sees. He gets an upset stomach and heads off to the first stall. The lights flicker indicating something is going to happen. We don’t know it yet, but we have entered the time paradox. @2:10 The janitor places a new roll of toilet paper on the counter next to Pete’s things and leaves. THE JANITOR: Some have suggested the janitor is his older self. I don’t think that’s correct. The janitor is pretty much just the foil to set the premise for us and perhaps a nod to Charles Dickens’ Spirits of Christmas, or other foils in earlier versions of time travel redemption stories. However, a detail I didn’t pick up myself, is that the Janitor’s name is Janus. GPT describes Janus as “an ancient Roman god associated with beginnings, transitions, and duality. He is unique among Roman deities because he has two faces, allowing him to look to the past and the future simultaneously. This makes Janus a symbol of change, passage, and time itself.” That seems an appropriate name for the foil for this plot. Some have asserted that if this was in fact his name that the director would have had a much clearer and deliberate shot of his name tag. However, I think the overall tone of this film is to be very subtle and let the viewer pick up on the clues without being spoon fed. If anything, the film disorients us. @ 2:25 we see Pete sitting in the first stall and looking at his watch. By his watch it is 3:15. From our perspective, this is the first guy, and from here on in, that’s how I will refer to him. I believe he is the protagonist. Although he is the first guy we encounter, there are at least two others who are already in the time loop. He sees feet at the stall door and the guy tries to open the door. He notices ‘Don’t Panic’ written on the toilet paper. (This is a nod to Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.) After telling the guy outside that he will be a while, the guy peers through the crack in the door. He hits the door and then he hears fighting outside. @3:30 “Do you want me to come out there?” He comes out and doesn’t see anyone in the restroom. He tries to leave but can’t. @4:05 he hears the first stall door lock. Even though he heard two guys fighting in the restroom, there was no one there when he came out. So, who just went into the stall? He goes to investigate. He tries the door. When he hears himself (second guy) saying that the stall is occupied he looks down at his feet and realizes that it was himself that was previously outside the stall. (What a great shot looking up at him looking down, and then a reverse shot looking down at his feet.) Things are happening as he has just experienced it from when he was in the stall, so he peers in to see if it is really himself in there. We are now introduced to the time loop. When he looks through the crack and his other self punches the door he reels back and falls into the third stall. @4:53 When the door of the third stall is flung open he sees himself (a third guy) and the guy in the stall punches him and a fight starts. This is the fight that we hear from the perspective of the ‘first guy’ when he was in the stall, but now he’s involved in the fight. During the fight, after his punch misses and he hits the panel, he is spun around by the third guy and pushed into the stall and the third guy closes the door. @ 5:15 The stall door is opened and he assumes it is the third guy, who just pushed him in there, but it’s not. It is actually the second guy who has just come out of the first stall and realized it is himself in the first stall and after peering into the stall. The guy in the first stall punches the door he reels back and pushes open the door of the third stall. Just as the first guy, who is now in the third stall, did. However, the first guy who is in the third stall thinks that it is the same guy (third guy) coming at him again so he hits him and the fight starts again but now with the second guy. The first guy now pushes the second guy into the third stall and shuts the door. The first guy opens the door and there is no one in there. While his timeline is still continuing, there is a jump in time from inside the stall. The guy in the stall shouts, “You want me to come out there?” @ 5:45 He hears the stall door latch open, but no one comes out. So, the first guy goes to look in the first stall and finds another version of himself shot dead in the stall. The dead guy’s watch is smashed and stopped at 3:30. This is a significant detail, as it is at 3:30 that he was shot and his watched was smashed and stopped. He is covered in blood and we assume that this is from being shot, or the fight that led to him being shot, but it isn’t. The blood on his head is significant later in identifying which guy this is. He probably assumes, and maybe we do to, that it was the guy that was just in the stall, but it wasn’t because we have now jumped ahead by about 15 minutes to 3:30. (The timeline for the guy who was in the stall during the fight was 3:15 and only a couple of minutes have past, but the dead guy’s watch is at 3:30) We are not meant to understand what is going on at this point, except that there is a time paradox and it’s getting darker and more confusing by the minute. We are experiencing how he must feel. At seeing himself shot dead and covered in blood, the first guy throws up and when he uses the toilet paper to wipe his mouth he notices there is more to the message than just “Don’t Panic!” @ 6:45 we see him read the message. It informs him (and us) that it is random, time jumps back and forth. Two significant points are that one door closes and another opens, and that he needs to kill the future. This doesn’t necessarily make sense to him, or to us, at this point. @ 7:05 While he’s reading the message a fourth guy appears out of the third stall, not wearing his jacket. This is a future version of himself (the fourth guy for us) and he starts talking to the first guy, initially assuming he has just previously met this version of himself, but quickly realizes he is not the one having things explained to him, but he is now the one doing the explaining. The first guy is repeating exactly what the fourth guy previously said, until he changes the dialogue when he refuses to go into the stall. This is an important part of dialogue. He explains that you go in and come out. Outside of the stalls he is experiencing a linear timeline. However, in the stalls he sometimes sees future or past events of the time paradox, and those that emerge from the stalls while co-existing with him are actually on a different timeline. This fourth guy, we find out is two minutes ahead of the first guy. So, by going into a stall and coming out he is jumping to different points in the timeline. The first guy uses this to his advantage later on. By refusing to go into the stall he has now created a fundamental shift in the paradox. Previously when he has encountered himself, the other self/selves jump to different points in the timeline, now the two of them are working together. However, while they are working together their timelines are slightly staggered by two minutes.
I always forgetting this short movie exist, but always loving the art behind it, obsessed with the writing skill and idea behind it. Not everytime that complex story is a good idea for the common audience, but for me, personally, this pulled AMAZINGLY.
If it was me I would've climbed up into the ceiling and got out, I know it wouldn't fit the story but I mean, there's almost always a way out, especially that kind of bathroom.
@@fuzzybunny4muny Maybe it's something like the Sysyphus pushing the rock up the hill, he can't just do something else because he is fated to forever push the rock up the hill, and has no choice in the matter. Same with this, because it's time travel, there is no doing something else that will end it without fixing the thing that caused the time travel in the first place.
theres a bunch of other references, too. he tells craig to 'Stall', the janitor tells him he won't like it if he got one good look at himself that he wouldn't like it, and a bunch of others, too
@@multipleajs7833 oh! thanks for the clarification! I was gonna say it's a very interesting format for a film release. Which means my first experience of it was from this perspective of a 4 screen story telling
in a scene where two heroes are discussing what is happening (one with a jacket and one without) and there are two “versions” of the hero, the first one becomes bad and starts killing everyone. The second is the one who eventually got out and the paradox.
could you make a new and improved version? you could add the timestamps of the footage from the youtube video so that we can more easily track its timeline
from what I understand, the gun is born and only exists inside the paradox, closed loop. If I could timetravel using a book explaining how to timetravel given to me by a me from the future, who will go on to give it to me in the past- and that goes on for infinity. The only thing wrong with the gun theory is that the bullets come from no where. He picks the gun up from the corpse of the 1st stall.
Kill your future does refer to him changing his life decisions, and living a better life. This does not make him the janitor though. That makes absolutely no sense. The stalls time travel the same way, and at most jump ten minutes. The janitor also is named Janus, a god, which makes more sense for how he literally turned the bathroom into paradox simulator. The janitor made the time travel happen, how the hell would he have done that? How would he have travelled backwards decades after the loop was broken?
8:41 Theoretically in this section this is what we call an alternate universe version of you where they committed an action you decided to not commit At a different time in a moment, like you enter a stall within the other time.Line version of you you don't
i really hope that it is an actual detail and not just a mistake, but when the fight scene happens the first time angry pete attacks confused pete, he does a flurry of punches on the right side, then when we see it the second time, it is on the left (atleast in the video it looks that way) which would be the actual first sign of the paradox breaking rather than him saying no being the first
The true path was just believing what survivor Pete said and going to stall #2. Although it was questionable why he didn't wear his suit in the beginning when he shows up, saying no to his words and refusing to believe him, will lock your path into dying.
I got it. I solved the timeline loop. "Original" Guy is a "Future" Guy that got killed in the first stall. He got killed by himself with the help of the "paradox" Guy who was 2 minutes forward in the future.
The only part I’m missing is where no jacket came from. I assume we just don’t see where he gives it a try, we only see the initial split. What I have: Initial jacket enters the stall to use it as normal. While in the stall he sees the self the just exited the stall and then he hears aggressive jacket attack that him. The commotion makes him exit the stall. When he does he hears himself lock the door which makes him go investigate. Upon finding himself in the stall he stumbles backwards and opens the stall where aggressive jacket is, and aggressive jacket attacks. Aggressive jacket manages to throw stumbling jacket into the stall. Aggressive jacket is the self that stumbled into the third stall, got attacked and then threw what he thought was aggressive jacket back into the stall. He then hears stall jacket begin to exit which once again makes him go investigate, upon doing so he finds killer jacket, formerly dupe 1. He throws up, finds paper, meets no jacket, and then leaves. Upon exiting he tries the door which doesn’t work, Instead the duping begins.(i don’t understand how but that’s not important) Dupe 1 is the one who tries the door then stands in front of the plan while everything carries on behind him. Dupes 2-5 are all learning the definition of insanity. After dupe 5 dupe 1 becomes killer jacket and starts closing doors until he enters the first stall and reunites with no jacket moments after they parted. Meanwhile no jacket discovers the bodies of dupes 2-5 and begs to be let out. He is interrupted twice, first by gunpoint no jacket, then by killer jacket. When no jacket asks for privacy and closes the door he becomes gunpoint no jacket, who passes by no jacket leaving him with the “last regards”hint. After exiting the stall one last time no jacket closes the door on killer jacket, which neatly enough is the only time a door closes without time travel as you hear the body hit the floor and it’s still there when the door opens. When gunpoint no jacket closes the door while at gunpoint, killer jacket shoots the door, upon opening it he walks in and finds himself dead, when he turns around no jacket closes the door and he gets shot by the bullet he previously fired into the door. That’s why you hear the body hit the floor but no gunshot, because the gunshot already happened. No jacket then proceeds to reset the paper and leave. Only to return many years later and set up the cycle. Janitor jacket is no jacket as noted by the “you’re a bad person” line and noticing the lights which they are the only characters to do.
the only thing I think you might have wrong (I could be wrong) is that killer jacket is not dupe 1 but actually the "main/original" guy. when he meets no jacket and then leaves him he's the one that tries the door first before dupe 1 comes out it just looks funny in real time because he loops back onto himself as he's trying the door so its all happening at the same time. (to clarify at 14:18 the clip on the top left starts when the clip on the top right ends when following the perspective of initial jacket from the beginning) As far as where no jacket comes from there isn't a full explanation for his perspective other than being a in the future compared to the original guy by 2 minutes and he is the "one" to make it out
He was part of a loop but the loop broke when the jacket guy did not go into the stall so he just exists on the same plane of existence as the jacket guy
Just imagine the video looped forever
It does
Technically yeah
If you keep resetting your clock, it does.
🥲
Play it on loop and it does
Ima be honest, it was less confusing just watching it on its own
I know right
its like a jigsaw puzzle that if you put the pieces together makes the image all scrambled but assembling the image makes the pieces all scrambled
That's why plot is a separate thing from a story. This is the story as it happened, but the original plot portrays the story in a way that is engaging and interesting while allowing you to learn along with the main character.
This is still really cool to see obviously, but the fact that plotting events of the same story in a different way can completely change the viewer's experience is why writing is an art!
@@TheDessum I love being told a good story through great plot. Its such a rewarding feeling to understand a story as the plot develops
@@WiiDSCube especially when it's just presented, without some character explaining the context of each bit as you go. when they respect me as the reader/viewer I respect them more as the writer lol
This is what I think every stall does.
Stall #1 (when closed) brings you back in time (5-10 seconds).
Stall #2 (only used by survivor Pete) brings you back 2 mins.
Stall #3 is the same as stall #1.
Stall #4 makes a copy of someone after a set amount of time.
All four stalls' internal time is stopped when open.
Thank you
(REPOST) I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video.
The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference)
So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
Stall 2 actually is what broke paradox
Survivor pete was supposed to use the 4th door
But he traveled tg
i think that the fourth stall just sends you back in time, and the 1st stall mostly set people through time in large intervals, like sending "murderer pete" from the end of the of the short film to the start.
I humbly disagree.
The note said it was random. Back and forward.
While extremely well done, I don't think this video has quite nailed the timeline of the paradox.
WHY DOES NO ONE TALK ABOUT HOW FUCKIN SICK THE OUTRO THEME IS
Hell yeah it slaps!
Gives john wick vibes fr fr
@@cursedemperor9600 bro I remember when I first saw this video that's what I thought of!! Just coming back to these short film channels. So much better than normal UA-cam drivel
Love how its in 7/4 as well
sucks idk the name of it lol
So the note was always right, just misinterpreted. "kill your future" meant letting go of the meeting of his life and the future of his Career because it was making him that bad person. only when he tosses the suit, the files, and his watch, with no intent to go to the meeting was he able to break the cycle
Copy of a Copy, a Universally Infinite message brought from literal nothingness, only to be birthed repeatedly by one man locked in a bathroom.
so the guy who ditched the suit first was the nicest one, because he was the closest to breaking the cycle.
He didn’t break the cycle
He’s the janitor in the begging
@@billjones3963why do you say that? the nametag on the janitor says Janus
Can someone please make a video about how all the timelines are connected and actually use like drawing or something
Actually a few of the scenes which may have helped in connection were left our or so but I think the connections can still be drawn
I actually had a small theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video.
The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop.
So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
Imagine you're in a room. In this room, there's a door. Opening it leads you to the exact same room you're originally in. Upon opening the door, you see yourself opening the door.
Another way of thinking of this is the portal gun from portal. You shoot the portal gun at one wall and another on the opposite end of the same wall.
I agree! In an over simplified, strawman way, he basically created a physical manifestation of his "bad person", and had him killed (metaphorically his work-life/seeing his own evil) to be able to escape the loop.
I also love the theory that he humbled himself, became a janitor and left that roll there intentionally. @@eZeero
"Whatever helps you work at night" is crazy
Wild
Crazy?
@@matthewjones39I was crazy once
@@TurtleStew They locked me in a room
@@jimothyjimoneA rubber room
The janitor is janus, the greek god of doors
Janus is Roman?
no the janitor is himself
I thought the janitor was future him after escaping
@@koolbrayden21 it is the commenter is dumb
@@espinas... they’re not dumb they’re just sharing theories.you can’t shame someone for being wrong its apart of life.
That’s janitor put him in the most insane genjutsu
Just an actual Izanami loop like some Sasuke and Itachi vs Kabuto bs.
Aaaaaaaand for the non-weeb-o-fied to the point of perpetual loneliness.....
A genjutsu is created when a ninja controls the chakra flow of a target's cerebral nervous system, thereby affecting their five senses giving the jutsu caster full control over their five senses. This is frequently used to create false images and/or trick the body into believing its has experienced physical pain
Izanami (イザナミ), formally referred to with the honorific Izanami-no-Mikoto (伊弉冉尊/伊邪那美命, meaning "She-who-invites" or the "Female-who-invites"), is the creator deity of both creation and death in Japanese mythology, as well as the Shinto mother goddess
Sasuke and Itachi team up to stop Kabuto's Reanimation Jutsu. But Kabuto's new ability to use Nature Energy has made him a difficult target for the brothers. Sasuke puts the plan into action, launching an arrow at Kabuto. Kabuto attempts to free himself from the arrow and with Itachi rushing in, he grabbed the sword and stabbed him. It is however revealed to be a crow clone. The real Itachi uses his Sharingan and then cuts off one of Kabuto's horns. Dont worry if you dont get this bit, its just weebs referencing some naruto garbage.....
@@TankR wow! I’m impressed of how much effort and detail actually was poured into explaining the genjutsu. Well done 👍.
i am pretty sure that janitor is him when he's older
@@heatedturtle659 ...i thought I replied when I saw this the first time...probably got distracted...or stepped into the wrong stall 😆
In all fairness, it was totally copy pastaed from google. Credit goes to whoever wrote the articles I ripped off. I just chose the most straight forward explanations. Though i did piece the third one together, regardless of how I feel towards the work as a whole (we all have our opinions over various artworks, that's called freedom) hopefully it adequately described the events.
I can only give one thumb per comment, since that one is a little stale have another, mate 😎👍
I actually had a theory about it. It's in regards of the 6:22 part in this video.
The reason the other him refuses to go in, which causes the so-called "paradox" (not really a paradox in my opinion) is because the person who successfully convinced himself to get into that stall for the first time around, was actually the future him that closed the loop. Basically the one that wrote all of those warnings, was the first person to convince himself and managed to do so, while the person whom he managed to calm down, attempted to do same but failed 7:26 (we're unaware of what exactly was told which made the difference)
So, thinking of it from that perspective, he both closes it and creates the loop to ensure his existence and by calming the other him down and convincing him to test the stall out, he initiates the loop and closes it completely. The other him which calms down and then failing to convince himself to get in that stall was already accounted for and therefore the loop is complete.
I like to believe that (at least) he (the future self which closes the loop by starting it) didn't say "that's what I've said" to himself 😂
@@eZeerowell that is what he said. Because he is talking to himself from before he closed the paradox
i love how it's implied that since he killed a ton of versions of himself, the heartless version of him would have messed up the meeting. also, the janitor's name isn't janus, it's janice, but it's a cool theory.
Some other dude said the janitor's name might actually be Janus, as the greek god of doors.
I’m certain it’s an alias created by future him due to the “you’re a bad person” line then noticing the lights, which is the same exact thing he did when he was held at gun point. 100% the alias is a reference to Janus though
This is similar to what I think would happen if the scenes in "Memento" were rearranged lol
I saw someone do it, Memento actually makes so much sense in chronological order that it causes it to be a boring story if told forwards that's an epic story told backwards.
@@pyrobreather1 yeah that makes sense. It's not really time paradox-y
@@pyrobreather1 that makes you realize that the narrative almost has the same importance as the history itself
They had that as a feature on the DVD release. Basically you just do the black-and-white scenes from start to finish, then all the colour scenes finish to start.
I LOVE MEMENTO
This was good. Im curious why you didnt leave the 330 shot at the end. It was a good perspective to see jacketless guy go from arguing if he or past him should go in the stall to future him coming out demanding he get in the stall but im curious about him figuring it out at the 330 shooting and then seeing the rampage
I thought that the scene at the end needed to go at the end because of the poster. The 330 shot had the poster being written on with a marker and in the final shot of the edit, the poster with marker streaks was there and ripped up by the Protagonist. None the less thanks for the comment bud!
i feel like the dude with the gun is the original dude, just without some screws left
and i was right
@@wyyredd which dude with the gun?
I hate that I recognize that pfp 💀
the dude that enters the bathroom first@@deefvandermeulen1621
I didnt get it, explain more? Please?
I liked the subtle references at the start.
1:20 'His door closed, my door opened' - On the toilet paper was writing saying 'One door closes, another opens'
1:25 'This is my future' - Kind of funny as he's stuck in this kind of loop
1:35 'Stall, Craig!' - He uses bathroom stalls to travel through time
1:40 (Snaps fingers at janitor) - An impatient guy gets all the time in the world (using time travel)
1:54 'If anybody screws this pitch up, I will kill them' - He screws everything up by not getting in the stall at 7:13 by not getting into the stall and in the end, dies
2:01 'I will literally shoot them in the head' - Gets shot in the head in the end
2:17 'You are a bad person' - This one is obvious, but at 12:47, he calls himself a bad person, like the janitor did
2:22 'Uh huh, and you're a janitor' - Not really a reference, but there's a theory saying he becomes the janitor and then gets trapped in this paradox, meeting his past self
2:26 'One day, you might just get a good look at yourself. One day, you might not like what you see' - He does get a good look at past and future selves, and in fact, he does not like what he sees towards the end
my brain isn’t braining
the video isn't videoing
I think I need to sleep my head hurts
This is so confusing... loved it
it's more less confusing if you've seen the original
@@mrpotato3454what is the original?
@@DavidLair-hh2gd it's just called stalled, it's on youtube
This is my take on the film.
I hope it helps some in understanding the film.
(Make sure you watch it first!)
PART ONE:
I’m sure I’ve made some mistakes, and possibly the plot has a couple of holes, which time travel paradox doesn’t?
Let me know if you picked up on something I missed, or if you think that I got something wrong.
I’m sure I have.
Three assumptions:
One: We are following the story of the fist guy, who I believe is the protagonist, and the fourth guy, who I believe is the antagonist. (First and fourth, not in the order they appear in the paradox, but in order of when we meet them.)
Three: The guy is not experiencing the time loop in sequence. It is random.
Two: The timeline is often different inside and outside the stall. That is, it might be 3:20, but when he opens a stall door, he might encounter someone from 3:30. While it is 3:30 to his other self in the stall (or when he emerges), it is still 3:20 for him in his timeline.
@ 0:05 Title sequence:
Stalled (written on the wall as graffiti and the janitor wipes it off. Great title sequence.)
@ 0:24 Phone call:
Foreshadowing:
The time on his watch is 3:10, but his friend says it is 3:30. (This gives him opportunity to let us know he is wearing a precision time piece.)
“His door closed and my door opened.”
“My moment. My future.”
“Stall them.” (Possibly more of a pun than a foreshadow, but it does foreshadow the importance of the stalls in the time paradox.)
@1:05 He snaps his fingers at the janitor ordering towels from him and then rudely snatches them from the janitor’s hands, showing what a rude, disrespectful man he is.
“If anybody screws this up I will kill them. I will literally shoot them in the head.”
@1:40 Janitor tells him he’s a bad person and that one day he might get a look at himself and might not like what he sees.
He gets an upset stomach and heads off to the first stall. The lights flicker indicating something is going to happen. We don’t know it yet, but we have entered the time paradox.
@2:10 The janitor places a new roll of toilet paper on the counter next to Pete’s things and leaves.
THE JANITOR:
Some have suggested the janitor is his older self. I don’t think that’s correct. The janitor is pretty much just the foil to set the premise for us and perhaps a nod to Charles Dickens’ Spirits of Christmas, or other foils in earlier versions of time travel redemption stories.
However, a detail I didn’t pick up myself, is that the Janitor’s name is Janus. GPT describes Janus as “an ancient Roman god associated with beginnings, transitions, and duality. He is unique among Roman deities because he has two faces, allowing him to look to the past and the future simultaneously. This makes Janus a symbol of change, passage, and time itself.”
That seems an appropriate name for the foil for this plot.
Some have asserted that if this was in fact his name that the director would have had a much clearer and deliberate shot of his name tag. However, I think the overall tone of this film is to be very subtle and let the viewer pick up on the clues without being spoon fed. If anything, the film disorients us.
@ 2:25 we see Pete sitting in the first stall and looking at his watch. By his watch it is 3:15.
From our perspective, this is the first guy, and from here on in, that’s how I will refer to him. I believe he is the protagonist. Although he is the first guy we encounter, there are at least two others who are already in the time loop.
He sees feet at the stall door and the guy tries to open the door.
He notices ‘Don’t Panic’ written on the toilet paper. (This is a nod to Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.)
After telling the guy outside that he will be a while, the guy peers through the crack in the door.
He hits the door and then he hears fighting outside.
@3:30 “Do you want me to come out there?”
He comes out and doesn’t see anyone in the restroom.
He tries to leave but can’t.
@4:05 he hears the first stall door lock. Even though he heard two guys fighting in the restroom, there was no one there when he came out. So, who just went into the stall? He goes to investigate.
He tries the door.
When he hears himself (second guy) saying that the stall is occupied he looks down at his feet and realizes that it was himself that was previously outside the stall. (What a great shot looking up at him looking down, and then a reverse shot looking down at his feet.)
Things are happening as he has just experienced it from when he was in the stall, so he peers in to see if it is really himself in there. We are now introduced to the time loop.
When he looks through the crack and his other self punches the door he reels back and falls into the third stall.
@4:53 When the door of the third stall is flung open he sees himself (a third guy) and the guy in the stall punches him and a fight starts. This is the fight that we hear from the perspective of the ‘first guy’ when he was in the stall, but now he’s involved in the fight.
During the fight, after his punch misses and he hits the panel, he is spun around by the third guy and pushed into the stall and the third guy closes the door.
@ 5:15 The stall door is opened and he assumes it is the third guy, who just pushed him in there, but it’s not. It is actually the second guy who has just come out of the first stall and realized it is himself in the first stall and after peering into the stall. The guy in the first stall punches the door he reels back and pushes open the door of the third stall. Just as the first guy, who is now in the third stall, did.
However, the first guy who is in the third stall thinks that it is the same guy (third guy) coming at him again so he hits him and the fight starts again but now with the second guy. The first guy now pushes the second guy into the third stall and shuts the door.
The first guy opens the door and there is no one in there. While his timeline is still continuing, there is a jump in time from inside the stall.
The guy in the stall shouts, “You want me to come out there?”
@ 5:45 He hears the stall door latch open, but no one comes out. So, the first guy goes to look in the first stall and finds another version of himself shot dead in the stall. The dead guy’s watch is smashed and stopped at 3:30. This is a significant detail, as it is at 3:30 that he was shot and his watched was smashed and stopped. He is covered in blood and we assume that this is from being shot, or the fight that led to him being shot, but it isn’t. The blood on his head is significant later in identifying which guy this is.
He probably assumes, and maybe we do to, that it was the guy that was just in the stall, but it wasn’t because we have now jumped ahead by about 15 minutes to 3:30. (The timeline for the guy who was in the stall during the fight was 3:15 and only a couple of minutes have past, but the dead guy’s watch is at 3:30)
We are not meant to understand what is going on at this point, except that there is a time paradox and it’s getting darker and more confusing by the minute. We are experiencing how he must feel.
At seeing himself shot dead and covered in blood, the first guy throws up and when he uses the toilet paper to wipe his mouth he notices there is more to the message than just “Don’t Panic!”
@ 6:45 we see him read the message.
It informs him (and us) that it is random, time jumps back and forth.
Two significant points are that one door closes and another opens, and that he needs to kill the future. This doesn’t necessarily make sense to him, or to us, at this point.
@ 7:05
While he’s reading the message a fourth guy appears out of the third stall, not wearing his jacket. This is a future version of himself (the fourth guy for us) and he starts talking to the first guy, initially assuming he has just previously met this version of himself, but quickly realizes he is not the one having things explained to him, but he is now the one doing the explaining. The first guy is repeating exactly what the fourth guy previously said, until he changes the dialogue when he refuses to go into the stall.
This is an important part of dialogue. He explains that you go in and come out. Outside of the stalls he is experiencing a linear timeline. However, in the stalls he sometimes sees future or past events of the time paradox, and those that emerge from the stalls while co-existing with him are actually on a different timeline. This fourth guy, we find out is two minutes ahead of the first guy.
So, by going into a stall and coming out he is jumping to different points in the timeline. The first guy uses this to his advantage later on.
By refusing to go into the stall he has now created a fundamental shift in the paradox. Previously when he has encountered himself, the other self/selves jump to different points in the timeline, now the two of them are working together. However, while they are working together their timelines are slightly staggered by two minutes.
even with this i dont understand nothing💀
same bruh💀
Actually, it makes it harder to understand the plot since all the doors go to different time
Now go watch the original video and create your own paradox by coming here again to understand
already did 3 times still clueless@@RaghavKamath-sf1zr
"Don't try to understand it. Feel it." -Tenet
seeing the beggining again made me realise how much foreshadowing there were, he really did literally shoot them
I always forgetting this short movie exist, but always loving the art behind it, obsessed with the writing skill and idea behind it. Not everytime that complex story is a good idea for the common audience, but for me, personally, this pulled AMAZINGLY.
OMG DUDE I love this mini film so much and have wondered if anybody's ever done this...THANK YOU SO MUCH!!
This makes it much easier to keep track of which version of him is which
My brain is too small and smooth for this
What if he’s looking at another version of himself over the stall as the door closes
What if the door closes and his head is touching the ceiling
If it was me I would've climbed up into the ceiling and got out, I know it wouldn't fit the story but I mean, there's almost always a way out, especially that kind of bathroom.
@@fuzzybunny4muny Maybe it's something like the Sysyphus pushing the rock up the hill, he can't just do something else because he is fated to forever push the rock up the hill, and has no choice in the matter. Same with this, because it's time travel, there is no doing something else that will end it without fixing the thing that caused the time travel in the first place.
I think nothing simply happens until he puts his head down when the stall door gets closed
I watched this video and I was more hurt than I was
lmao
And this is why I shit with the stall door open.
bro i just clicked on a random video for background noise and found a gem
This isn't even the original, it's just the explanation. Go watch the one by Omeleto
mate why do u need a background noise...
isn’t it crazy how he says if anyone ruins it for him before he gets in he will shoot them and he shoots himself 🧐
It's almost like it was written in the script.
@@I_WANT_MY_SLAWlol
theres a bunch of other references, too. he tells craig to 'Stall', the janitor tells him he won't like it if he got one good look at himself that he wouldn't like it, and a bunch of others, too
Omfg y'all are idiots. It's not "references", it's literally the premise of the video
Nice work on this film!
I kept getting suggested by my algorithm for this, I never expected it to be so good
Thanks, but I didn't create this, it is a scene comparison of a video made by Matt Black.
@@multipleajs7833 oh! thanks for the clarification! I was gonna say it's a very interesting format for a film release. Which means my first experience of it was from this perspective of a 4 screen story telling
this is my favorite short film. i cant believe it took me ten months to find this
Nice stalled short film... i wanna see now UNDERSTALL the sequel
The prequel install
this is really awesome, thanks for doing this!1
in a scene where two heroes are discussing what is happening (one with a jacket and one without) and there are two “versions” of the hero, the first one becomes bad and starts killing everyone. The second is the one who eventually got out and the paradox.
Who is first one, the jacketed one?
okay now i *understand what's happening*
WHERE DOES THE GUN COME FROM
@@ciylix2 the gun is in an infinite loop so the better question is where do all the bullets come from
@@ciylix2 the gun probably was literally just in a corner or something before the paradox began
This felt just like a school zoom call😂
Some's a Christopher Nolan Fan... well done!
I dream of the day I could make a shortfilm this cool.
Amazing work, outstanding, all those cool words that critics use!
10/10
I love this because it helps understand which parts are in the same universe
could you make a new and improved version?
you could add the timestamps of the footage from the youtube video so that we can more easily track its timeline
I like the idea of that, I'll see what I can do!
still wondering where that gun came from
from what I understand, the gun is born and only exists inside the paradox, closed loop. If I could timetravel using a book explaining how to timetravel given to me by a me from the future, who will go on to give it to me in the past- and that goes on for infinity. The only thing wrong with the gun theory is that the bullets come from no where. He picks the gun up from the corpse of the 1st stall.
Wow amazing work just rewatched the original a couple days ago perfect algorithm timing for once🤟
How was this more confusing then the actual short film lol
This is so amazing, I just had to sub and like
Im glad this exists
There are still 2 versions of the men we havent seen the ending of
this is so cool, thank you for making it!
You have only made it more confusing
at the last of the video i think it's the timeline that got erased am i right?
What if "Kill your future" was referencing the future with his job because when he quits at the end he works as a janitor and restarts everything!
Kill your future does refer to him changing his life decisions, and living a better life. This does not make him the janitor though.
That makes absolutely no sense. The stalls time travel the same way, and at most jump ten minutes. The janitor also is named Janus, a god, which makes more sense for how he literally turned the bathroom into paradox simulator.
The janitor made the time travel happen, how the hell would he have done that? How would he have travelled backwards decades after the loop was broken?
Why does this feel more complex than literally Primer
Deserves all the awards in the world
In the end of the story , it never ends.
9:20 So he has a gun because he took it from his future self.
Bootstrap paradox
This had to be Hell editing.
Fr
Incredibly amazing plotline, great work man
0:01 should've been moved to 2:56 because that's when the toilet paper was placed.
Oh... "Stalled." Now I get it.
Plot twist, the entire film was made as a write off for the watch on his wrist
If your confused, here is my advice. Watch the original in the video description, and read the comments.
stalled without stalling
the real question is where are the bullets coming from
8:41 Theoretically in this section this is what we call an alternate universe version of you where they committed an action you decided to not commit At a different time in a moment, like you enter a stall within the other time.Line version of you you don't
Now, I’m gonna go watch the actual video
So closing a door teleport you to another while creating another timeline 👁️👄👁️
i really hope that it is an actual detail and not just a mistake, but when the fight scene happens the first time angry pete attacks confused pete, he does a flurry of punches on the right side, then when we see it the second time, it is on the left (atleast in the video it looks that way) which would be the actual first sign of the paradox breaking rather than him saying no being the first
The true path was just believing what survivor Pete said and going to stall #2. Although it was questionable why he didn't wear his suit in the beginning when he shows up, saying no to his words and refusing to believe him, will lock your path into dying.
How did you make it more confusing??
the gun bouncing really funny
Why is UA-cam showing me full videos in shorts form
someone should make a timeline for this
The janitor is him
UA-cam recommended me right after i watched Stalled
This is so much more confusing,lol
imagina o trabalho que deu pra colocar na ordem
This made it more confusing
Did the Jan leave the gun, or is it a funny bootstrap paradox haha funny moment?
It's a bootstrap thing, but the infinite bullets are left unexplained.
@@multipleajs7833it's probably resets
Why does only one loop of them conceal carry but the rest not?
somehow for me it's even more confusing than the original.
i feel like it could get an oscar
Sure it s time travel. U just transformed a 20 minutes film into a 16 minutes film.
It was in reality a fifteen minute film.
Soo,the pistol just appeared of thinn air?
Thanks for this. I'm still confused
How did this video save 3 minutes from the original?
Edit:And somehow more confusing
Because a lot of the scenes happen at the same time, like the fight scene for example
I got it. I solved the timeline loop. "Original" Guy is a "Future" Guy that got killed in the first stall. He got killed by himself with the help of the "paradox" Guy who was 2 minutes forward in the future.
Will you do Animation vs. Minecraft in real time? Do season 3, because it has a lot to synchronizing.
I'm releasing it on Monday :D
Okay,so we're bsck at step 1
Versión en español por favor se le agradece?.
The only part I’m missing is where no jacket came from. I assume we just don’t see where he gives it a try, we only see the initial split.
What I have:
Initial jacket enters the stall to use it as normal.
While in the stall he sees the self the just exited the stall and then he hears aggressive jacket attack that him.
The commotion makes him exit the stall.
When he does he hears himself lock the door which makes him go investigate.
Upon finding himself in the stall he stumbles backwards and opens the stall where aggressive jacket is, and aggressive jacket attacks.
Aggressive jacket manages to throw stumbling jacket into the stall.
Aggressive jacket is the self that stumbled into the third stall, got attacked and then threw what he thought was aggressive jacket back into the stall.
He then hears stall jacket begin to exit which once again makes him go investigate, upon doing so he finds killer jacket, formerly dupe 1.
He throws up, finds paper, meets no jacket, and then leaves.
Upon exiting he tries the door which doesn’t work, Instead the duping begins.(i don’t understand how but that’s not important)
Dupe 1 is the one who tries the door then stands in front of the plan while everything carries on behind him.
Dupes 2-5 are all learning the definition of insanity. After dupe 5 dupe 1 becomes killer jacket and starts closing doors until he enters the first stall and reunites with no jacket moments after they parted.
Meanwhile no jacket discovers the bodies of dupes 2-5 and begs to be let out.
He is interrupted twice, first by gunpoint no jacket, then by killer jacket.
When no jacket asks for privacy and closes the door he becomes gunpoint no jacket, who passes by no jacket leaving him with the “last regards”hint.
After exiting the stall one last time no jacket closes the door on killer jacket, which neatly enough is the only time a door closes without time travel as you hear the body hit the floor and it’s still there when the door opens.
When gunpoint no jacket closes the door while at gunpoint, killer jacket shoots the door, upon opening it he walks in and finds himself dead, when he turns around no jacket closes the door and he gets shot by the bullet he previously fired into the door. That’s why you hear the body hit the floor but no gunshot, because the gunshot already happened.
No jacket then proceeds to reset the paper and leave.
Only to return many years later and set up the cycle. Janitor jacket is no jacket as noted by the “you’re a bad person” line and noticing the lights which they are the only characters to do.
the only thing I think you might have wrong (I could be wrong) is that killer jacket is not dupe 1 but actually the "main/original" guy. when he meets no jacket and then leaves him he's the one that tries the door first before dupe 1 comes out it just looks funny in real time because he loops back onto himself as he's trying the door so its all happening at the same time. (to clarify at 14:18 the clip on the top left starts when the clip on the top right ends when following the perspective of initial jacket from the beginning) As far as where no jacket comes from there isn't a full explanation for his perspective other than being a in the future compared to the original guy by 2 minutes and he is the "one" to make it out
I had this bad trip when on drugs sometimes :( its horrible
What if the janitor is the other guy older trying to teach him a lesson because both of them have blue eyes and have a somewhat bushy beard
Feels like a scene from tenet
thank god that i watched this one i was so fucking confused
wait... if they shoot one bullet every "loop" wont the gun eventually run out of bullets? what happens then?
Honestly its more cofusing like this
How my life happened...
Yo angustiada porque la llave del agua sigue abierta 😅
Ok where is that tshirt guy 6:24 came from who actually survived
He was part of a loop but the loop broke when the jacket guy did not go into the stall so he just exists on the same plane of existence as the jacket guy
wait the janitor came in after the dude at the end leaves?
It's both before and after. It's a time loop.
So the guy who was said to kill himself and he didnt and havent touched gun actually survived interesting