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  • @shombela2
    @shombela2 18 днів тому +6

    Thank u for posting. I found it v informative.
    1. By her own admission, this researcher calls herself a ' constitutional nurd'. In other words, potentially divorced from lived realities.
    2 relevant examples are repeated throughout: a) her childlike faith that the government will honour its constitutional obligations. b) her repeated strawmanning of ex model C schools as privileged uncaring enclaves.
    Where was our constitutional nurd in the early 2000s when Sec 27 fought bravely for basic infrastructure in poor schools as MANDATED in the constitution? In the end, Sec 27 was fobbed off by a corrupt government more concerned about feathering its own nest than caring about the education of its citizens....
    Any argument for BELA from a constitutional nurd with preconceptions against ex model C schools should come with a health warning. Every single ex model C school I have ever worked in has had outreach initiatives aimed at local underperforming 'township' schools. These have included shari g resources and teacher training.
    With respect, sister, get out of your ideological ivory tower, and walk with me through educational disaster areas - not as a result of privileged elites , but the heartless disregard of successive SA governments since 1994...

  • @AmukelaniHNkuna
    @AmukelaniHNkuna 22 дні тому +17

    This was a great insert. Detailed and informative.

  • @Boipelo_Lekwane
    @Boipelo_Lekwane 21 день тому +17

    He Bill simply says that a child should be able to go to a school in their close proximity. In Gauteng we have the online admission system there's no way that a child in Garankuwa would be placed in Garsfontein Laerskool. So basically there isn't an attack on anything or anyone except that those who are racist and use schools to Instill and sustain that racism might not be allowed to depending on the demographics of their community.

  • @Dude-1689
    @Dude-1689 22 дні тому +19

    Clearly we still have some people who intend to work against equality.

    • @schlix101
      @schlix101 20 днів тому

      Yep. BBBEE being a prime example of forcing even more inequality by favoring one racial group over another.

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 3 дні тому

      Afrikaners don't go to township schools and insist on being educated in Afrikaners. Most learners starting school can't speak a word of English or do basic sums like 1+1=2

    • @veronicakarstel9126
      @veronicakarstel9126 3 дні тому

      This gutterment didn't build schools to cater for the SASSA BREEDING GRANT

  • @trza100
    @trza100 21 день тому +3

    Wow this was a really great! Clear and simple. Easy to understand. The future of SA is safe with young people like this. Section27 has gems 💎. Second young person from there I see doing excellent work.

  • @Smart.Ventures
    @Smart.Ventures 15 днів тому +1

    This video was nicely done. Very detailed and informative. Well done Section27!

  • @fezekasongane8875
    @fezekasongane8875 21 день тому +9

    What’s is clear from some of these comments is that people didn’t/dont have an issue with the injustices of the past. If people were to choose, there’s a likely hood that many would vote it an apartheids government that’s maybe a little less violent. I mean Imagine somewhere in England there’s a school built whose primary language is not English, lets say French, and that school which has capacity to admit English speaking learners refuses to do so because they want the school to remain 100 French…this is wrong!!!!! SA has 11 official languages, 12 when including sign language there is absolutely no reason why schools can’t be bi-lingual where possible. Yes the government should build schools but where its possible for schools to teach in more than one language why shouldn’t we also pursue that as a solution.

    • @dengi2452
      @dengi2452 6 днів тому

      because they only target Afrikaans schools.

  • @takimpeiwa4718
    @takimpeiwa4718 21 день тому +17

    Emihle is a very articulate and beautiful young lady for whom i am proud to have as a steward of the future of this country . with compliments out of the way, i think those opposed to the BELA Act are in an enclave and refuse to come to the table. i understand and agree that the ANC government hasnt done enough to adress inequality and improve the quality of basic education but we need to roll up our sleeves and find ways to work alongside each other in building a country that works for all of its children. the result of which will benefit each of us if we are considering the longer-sighted view.

    • @JohanBritz-w5b
      @JohanBritz-w5b 21 день тому +1

      Im sorry, our Educational System and Subjects has changed more times than I can even keep track of over the passed 24 years.. In the name of Transformation. And so lets first fix the issues that already exist, like Many Many schools who never received their new textbooks, for their new subjects. And now you plan to make most of the Afrikaans handbooks unusable. Until the lack of other language books eventually feeds down to the less Politically connected schools.

    • @mornemars3433
      @mornemars3433 21 день тому +1

      ​@@JohanBritz-w5bAll languages are protected by law. Afrikaans is not special.

    • @JohanBritz-w5b
      @JohanBritz-w5b 21 день тому +1

      @@mornemars3433 Well, you should check our Educational change around the Early 2000's. Where Primary schools were no longer needed to provide subjects like Twana and Khoza, as me as a white guy had it during 2001 and then 2002 we no longer did.. So why remove ALL these languages if its protected by law?

    • @gladwinmohlamonyane4033
      @gladwinmohlamonyane4033 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@JohanBritz-w5b which subjects changed in the name of transformation?

    • @gladwinmohlamonyane4033
      @gladwinmohlamonyane4033 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@JohanBritz-w5bTwana and Khoza? 😅 What are those?

  • @tebohomolete4711
    @tebohomolete4711 День тому

    What an insightful engagement. The Act brings forth the equality in our education, no language is better than the other. English should be used as medium instruction of teaching for all the Public schools.
    I love the fact that no kid will be subjected to learn Afrikaans unless the school is in Afrikaans speaking language community.

  • @Daniel-y1h5x
    @Daniel-y1h5x 9 днів тому +1

    When autonomy is removed and the state is given requisite, it tends to follow with destruction. The issue is not the policy or even validity of the agenda, it's the repetitive history of destruction seen in all other sectors that have been tampered with.
    At the ultimate, private schools are precisely that and if the state found it necessary to accommodate learners of a broader variety, then they should build the means to do so instead of the conversion mindset that led to the ruin of many other sectors.

  • @Octavia-iw3ky
    @Octavia-iw3ky 7 днів тому +1

    I had to take my child to a school far from our home because a school in our area which is black batswana dominated, is offering English and Afrikaans.

  • @lee-royanthony4263
    @lee-royanthony4263 12 днів тому +2

    how will this empower under resourced schools in poor communities?

  • @JakoGrundling
    @JakoGrundling 21 день тому +14

    Education in one's mother tongue is crucial for learning . It helps with academic success, cognitive development, preserving cultures, and sharing and making information more accessible. This is the reason why 82% of our grade 4 leaners in South Africa cannot read for meaning. The intention of the act might be correct if explained like this but this does not take into account that you are not dealing with rational actors. The money earmarked for education keeps disappearing at an alarming rate due to mismanagement and theft. The argument is not purely an academic one, it is way more nuanced than that.

    • @fezekasongane8875
      @fezekasongane8875 21 день тому +7

      Then the fight should be to ensure that funds are used correctly!!!!

    • @KNathi1
      @KNathi1 20 днів тому +6

      Where are the Afrikaans community getting this idea that adding IsiZulu means deleting Afrikaans?

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 18 днів тому

      @@KNathi1 From swart gevaar.

    • @tshidisomoraka8861
      @tshidisomoraka8861 16 днів тому

      @JakoGrundling So when did you come to this realization? Was before or after Afrikaans was forced down our throats, you guys just want your Afrikaner kids as far away from the rest of the other kids which enables some to push their racists ideas.

  • @craig81211
    @craig81211 21 день тому +4

    If every child has an equal right to education, why should some pay fees while others dont?

    • @uviwemvokwe8827
      @uviwemvokwe8827 20 днів тому

      @@craig81211 because Apartheid

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 17 днів тому +2

      @@craig81211 🤦🏻‍♀️

    • @moeketsintladi2788
      @moeketsintladi2788 6 днів тому +1

      ​@zoeanastasia4438 it may seem like a dumb question yet it's a necessary one... Why should people have the same access to things yet others pay and others don't... It's like saying “All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others”...

  • @realnews8075
    @realnews8075 11 днів тому +1

    Wow she is so smart 🧠 I rarely say that

  • @Hector-s97
    @Hector-s97 21 день тому +1

    I didn't know nor understand what the Bela Bill is or was, this video was very helpful for me honestly

  • @tjmorgan9093
    @tjmorgan9093 20 днів тому

    Great video and interview

  • @newsplus6203
    @newsplus6203 20 днів тому

    Absolutely brilliant!

  • @objectivelyobserving6434
    @objectivelyobserving6434 22 дні тому +7

    Now let's have a 25 minute insert featuring those wearing orange articulate their opposition to BELA and detailing the threats against a single language group they're perceiving. And throw in their harking back to the Vierkleur days.

    • @lebesemothijoa9385
      @lebesemothijoa9385 20 днів тому +1

      Her talk is cheap, where in this useless bill are pertinent issues one she's mentioned like pit toilets, and overcrowded classrooms, bad admins, ailing infrastructure, and the elephant in the room literacy??? South African children cannot read, write or calculate, and that's a fact that is tested and established year in and out without any government attempt to address it!!! Where in this useless bill are all these and many others I could mention addressed, don't tell me what you think, tell me where I must look in the bill. Some of us know where this is coming from and it's definitely not from South Africa, since when is the corrupt South African government interested in promulgating laws, when we know they are interested in power to make lots of money through corrupt means???

  • @devanne3
    @devanne3 17 днів тому +2

    I love how we are of the thought that Afrikaans is the white man's language. Go do your research and you'll find that it was developed by Khoisan, African, Indian and Dutch slaves as a way to combat the then Dutch colonisers(van Riebeeck) so that the Dutch could not understand them. Afrikaans to me shows unity between our races and should actually be embraced more because of this fact rather than less.

    • @katlegoloveslife
      @katlegoloveslife 9 днів тому

      What does Afrikaans have to do with a Bill about inclusivity and equal education?

    • @devanne3
      @devanne3 9 днів тому

      @@katlegoloveslife The feeling amongst white Afrikaners is that Afrikaans will slowly be removed and replaced when they want to preserve the language.
      I don't see why those schools cannot teach English also, but I think it's important if it's an Afrikaans school that-that remains the medium and primary language of communication.

    • @devanne3
      @devanne3 9 днів тому

      @@katlegoloveslife My thing is this we're looking to a bill, but looking past the fact that the government never built the amount of school they were supposed to build. Therefore, because the government is not doing their jobs correctly other peoples lives have to be burdened with change. I'm for inclusivity 100% for our brothers and sisters, but this seems like a quick fix for a problem the government has failed to solve properly by not building enough schools and actually maintaining other schools in rural communities.
      The fact that it's 2024 and we still have put toilets for me says it all.

    • @katlegoloveslife
      @katlegoloveslife 9 днів тому +1

      @@devanne3 , "because the government is not doing their jobs correctly other people's lives have to be burdened with change.", I don't want to assume what you mean by this, but I don't think a child in Mmabatho would burden Piet in Orania through this bill. But to be comfortable with the exclusion of others within the same community on the basis of language says too much about our country, and definitely doesn't sit well with me.

  • @motivegrind
    @motivegrind 21 день тому +2

    This problem can be solved. Its easy. Put a clause in the Act that says if a school is privately funded and build as a business then government cannot dictate SOME rules and regulations of that school. Government must only be there to give the curriculum. If government wants to provide for every community then build a government funded school in every community and that is that!!

  • @moeketsintladi2788
    @moeketsintladi2788 6 днів тому

    16:52 🤔 that question wasn't answered satisfactory. The question wasn't based on just Afrikaans schools... It's on a general bases. Eg if a Pedi child goes to a Zulu school... Will the language of instruction be accommodated for this one learner?
    I'll need to read the BELA act. Yet this shouldn't be the Government's Bandaid solution. More needs to be done to develop proper infrastructure in underprivileged areas. There shouldn't be a difference between a so called model C school and a Rural/township school and the Government is responsible on that part.

  • @craig81211
    @craig81211 21 день тому

    People should just stop paying fees and making donations.

  • @salzwell25
    @salzwell25 3 дні тому

    Why not improve schools that need improving. Why not build more schools?

  • @veronicakarstel9126
    @veronicakarstel9126 3 дні тому

    Why dont parents teach and read to their children like many do? No but the teachers need to even teach them manners. Another 300 yesrs to civilize

  • @badmom7682
    @badmom7682 12 днів тому

    She (and many like her) is completely missing the point. How is messing with and changing "former model c schools" going to benefit the underprivileged child in the township? How about building more schools, and training quality teachers and electing officials with integrity who will keep their promises? Leave the Afrikaans schools alone, they are not the problem.

  • @fxwic5072
    @fxwic5072 12 днів тому

    The primary language medium in a country like SA should be English.
    All other languages should be additional languages. That includes Afrikaans.
    Parents can teach their children cultural values at home.
    Schools should not be used as a medium to advance any particular culture, language, religion etc.

  • @theoerasmus3440
    @theoerasmus3440 21 день тому +6

    Very well spoken but flawed. In conclusion the Bella act is there to relocate student that are not being taken care of by the Government education system to Schools that are maintained by private funding as well re: Model C schools 10%. Is the Bella Act then put forward due to lack of Governments ability to provide the basic education in 90% of schools. The history of the old government should not be effecting anything anymore as the current Government has been there for 30 years. Just to put that into perspective. That is 2 groups of children that went thru grade R to grade 12 back to back without the necessary change to the system. Just remember- it’s not the Model C schools creating the issue, it’s the other 90% ( Government) of the system not working. Maybe try and correct the 90% not working before putting it all on 10%. Definition of that is Communism and 100% won’t be functional if this happens.

    • @mornemars3433
      @mornemars3433 21 день тому

      The White Supremacist government officially started Apartheid in 1948, 48 years of Apartheid on the books. So, 30 years of Democratic rule is not enough to rectify the Evil.

    • @bonolomkhwanazi8558
      @bonolomkhwanazi8558 21 день тому +2

      So you think in 30 years, all should be kumbaya. Remind us again; for how many years were we held ransom by apartheid? I am not saying we are where we should be, I am just saying go deeper in thought, apply your mind.

    • @theoerasmus3440
      @theoerasmus3440 20 днів тому

      @ I apply my mind to solutions not excuses! Remember that the Apartheid horse died in 94 so you can’t be riding it anymore.

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 17 днів тому

      ​@@bonolomkhwanazi8558 I honestly don't know what people gain from having such a defensive avoidance stance to discussing and thinking about apartheid. It's a fairly recent and significant part of South African history. Some people place a lot of emphasis on when apartheid supposedly "ended" (and that's as far as they're willing to discuss apartheid). NO other aspect of history is treated this way, not even historical events, which actually have a defined end, unlike systems. Say "apartheid" and watch how you're flooded with every slogan in the book. I don't understand why some people treat apartheid like a dark family secret. We can speak at length and in detail about communism, totalitarianism, and to some extent, imperialism, but NOT about apartheid. How bizarre.

  • @dengi2452
    @dengi2452 6 днів тому

    Activist pretending to be a lawyer

  • @xnxo7237
    @xnxo7237 22 дні тому +4

    If Orania is allowed why target the language.

    • @Dude-1689
      @Dude-1689 22 дні тому

      Doesn't make it right. The bill has to be enforced so we don't have history repeating itself, now systematically.
      Can't have one race dominating in a democratic state and hoarding resources. It's an adjustment to include others and not to erode Afrikaans.
      Orania remains diabolical.

    • @Boipelo_Lekwane
      @Boipelo_Lekwane 21 день тому +7

      If Orania is allowed and is flourishing, why would people conclude that this is an attack on any language?

    • @Dude-1689
      @Dude-1689 21 день тому +6

      @Boipelo_Lekwane They are deliberately misunderstanding the bill and trying to remain exclusive.

  • @claytonponiappen5848
    @claytonponiappen5848 21 день тому

    This is the first time I feel carte Blanche being biased to an agenda, they didn't asked proper counter points, like how is changing language policy going to address the real issue she is talking about,deplorable schools in less affluent areas

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 17 днів тому +2

      There's always someone crying about biased agendas when a platform has people on who don't pander to their views. Accept that there are people out there whose (very informed) views differ from yours. You not being satisfied with Carte Blanche's "counter points" doesn't mean there's some grand conspiracy. My word...

  • @patrickthorp3816
    @patrickthorp3816 21 день тому +2

    Why can't this government just build new schools instead of trying to control existing ones that work?

    • @fezekasongane8875
      @fezekasongane8875 21 день тому +7

      You guy’s are missing the point. Why are school governing bodies refusing to adjust language policies of schools to ensure that all children have access to education? If this wasn’t the case there wouldn’t be a need for the Act.

    • @patrickthorp3816
      @patrickthorp3816 21 день тому +1

      @@fezekasongane8875 I think you're missing the point. This wouldn't be a problem if there were enough schools that actually worked. These former model C schools are under pressure because of the decrepit, corrupt and nonfunctional schools that other communities have in their own back yards. As a result the schools are forced to push back and the government, as usual, decides to bring everything to the same low standard they create and love, rather than try to create something of the same level as former model C schools...Lets find a school this government has created and built from scratch that is a beacon of hope and model of success...i'll wait in the comments for you to provide a list of 10...

    • @fezekasongane8875
      @fezekasongane8875 21 день тому +2

      My inability to name 10 school built by government would not be evidence that such school do not exist. Like many people I dont mind admitting to the failures of government. To that end I don’t think you answered why it would be the right thing to do for schools to refuse changing the language policy to accommodate those in need, more especially when there is capacity for the school to take on more? Why would introducing another language be such a bad thing?

    • @patrickthorp3816
      @patrickthorp3816 21 день тому

      ​@@fezekasongane8875 Firstly, its not your inability to name them, its because they do not exist. Secondly, I would have thought it fairly obvious why this would be a bad thing. Simply put, it is because anything that the government puts its grubby little paws on falls to pieces. This is evident with literally everything that is state run around us. Any school or institution that the government has oversight of, in this case the schools, will simply mean that they as institutions will deteriorate. This is proven by looking at any former model C school that no longer has a strong SGB that is autonomous and has oversight of the processes of the school. You cannot blame these institutions from trying to protect what they know will result in the crumbling of what is the bed rock of their community and culture. To not oppose this is to accept what is obvious, that government is targeting Afrikaans schools and culture. This has been Panyaza Lesufi's goal for a very very long time...
      Thirdly, it is a matter of principle. Why is the government so intent on destroying something that works by pushing this through instead of taking responsibility for their failures. This is merely a lazy shortcut for them to try and squeeze numbers in to fuctional schools instead of actually doing anything about their failings.

    • @patrickthorp3816
      @patrickthorp3816 21 день тому

      @@fezekasongane8875 Firstly, its not your inability to name them, its because they do not exist. Secondly, I would have thought it fairly obvious why this would be a bad thing. Simply put, it is because anything that the government puts its grubby little paws on falls to pieces. This is evident with literally everything that is state run around us. Any school or institution that the government has oversight of, in this case the schools, will simply mean that they as institutions will deteriorate. This is proven by looking at any former model C school that no longer has a strong SGB that is autonomous and has oversight of the processes of the school. You cannot blame these institutions from trying to protect what they know will result in the crumbling of what is the bed rock of their community and culture. To not oppose this is to accept what is obvious, that government is targeting Afrikaans schools and culture. This has been Panyaza Lesufi's goal for a very very long time...
      Thirdly, it is a matter of principle. Why is the government so intent on destroying something that works by pushing this through instead of taking responsibility for their failures. This is merely a lazy shortcut for them to try and squeeze numbers in to fuctional schools instead of actually doing anything about their failings.

  • @cloudedBeats
    @cloudedBeats 21 день тому +5

    Its blatantly obviously that this lady has never stepped into a classroom or school.
    Shes speaking from a purely lawful perspective, what experience does she actually have in the schools and classrooms?

    • @tshifhiwacaiphus2223
      @tshifhiwacaiphus2223 21 день тому +12

      Lol What's your point?

    • @nicholas3708
      @nicholas3708 21 день тому

      What exactly is your counter argument?

    • @newsplus6203
      @newsplus6203 20 днів тому +4

      What's your opinion on the BELA BIll from the perspective of someone who has decades of classroom experience?

    • @gladwinmohlamonyane4033
      @gladwinmohlamonyane4033 20 днів тому +5

      How'd she get educated enough to speak from a legal perspective? What is missing?

    • @zoeanastasia4438
      @zoeanastasia4438 17 днів тому

      🤦🏻‍♀️