Installing a DIESEL HEATER/HOT WATER SYSTEM on our wooden boat! Building Companionway doors. (Ep57)
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- Опубліковано 24 вер 2024
- With the winter months settled in we decided it was time to get warm down below!
In this video we get the team from Diesel Heat Tasmania to explain our diesel hot air/water system, the DH15 is a brilliant unit and fits our requirements perfectly for a cruising boat.
Between the diesel heater installation Matt also gets busy with the companionway doors, some delicate joinery and big satisfaction being able to close the doors to stay warm!
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Beautiful workmanship!!❤😂🎉😅
Thankyou Dale!
That main hatch is sweet!
Oh yeah! Thankyou
Companionway doors are awesome!
Excellent work guys, your closing in on it!
Ah yeah! We hope this summer big things will happen!
Great video Amigos always nice to see you!!! Northern California says hello!!! Jasper
Hello again Jasper!!!
Loving the doors
Amazing! Happy to hear it
Really enjoyed this one - I am a saddo who thrives on tech stuff.👍⛵️
Hahah oh that’s great and nothing sad about it! There will be another video with the fire up and test run which will be fun!
Really great info about how these systems work!
As always a fantastic video!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Pretty slick system
Ah yeah, thanks!
This is the most beatiful yacht that has been built in the Internet. This yacht has even more beatiful lines than Tally Ho.
Aw so kind, thankyou!
Gorgeous!!
Thanks!!
That heater looks like good kit. Hope you guys were not affected by all the recent weather down there.
Yeah it sure is! We just hid below decks, did some little jobs inside the boat haha and no unfortunately the boat didn’t start floating on the floods…
genius system
Ah thanks! We agree!
Cool very nice😊
Ah thanks! We are loving it!
Love the hatch doors
Ah thankyou!!
Thanks Matt. Interesting video I've got an 42' ex Tasmanian cray boat and I'm hoping to get her back down to Tassie in the next couple of years so I've been exploring diesel heater options myself. Great timing.
Well that’s great to hear! Get in contact with the guys at Diesel heat, they are so nice and knowledgeable! It’ll make your boat toastie warm and dry! Definitely worth it haha
Love those companion way doors, and the the heating system is amazing
Ah yes thanks! We are super happy also. Closed doors and a heater means a warm cabin! Very very nice
Matt, your wood working skills rival anything Leo has done. It's great to see your wife back on the videos, she adds a bit of class. Thanks for sharing, it's always a great way to spend Saturday morning and a cup of coffee. Ed
Ah Ed thankyou, we really appreciate it! Very kind of you to say, it’s always great to have Iefke around. Always need someone to bounce ideas off and help out. Enjoy the coffee! Cheers
the heat is on😉
Haha yep! Well said!
That hatch looks great!🙂
Oh thankyou!! 😄
Well done for installing the diesel heat/hot water system yourself, rather than have service people do it. If any maintenance is needed, or repairs, you know how it all goes together. You’re not a messy man, just a free spirit 😅.
Ah thankyou! Yes we are super happy installing it ourselves but we also have the professionals keeping a very close eye on us and checking before we test run it!
Well said! A free and creative Spirit! haha
Well done all around. The doors are gorgeous. Thanks!
Thanks so much!
Tarkine, is going to be an amazing floating image for the world to see just how talented people can get when they have a dream and alot of hardwork..
Thankyou Ben, really kind of you to say so. Much appreciated!
I think you might end up with a dodger over the aft end of the cabin to provide some rain cover over the doors, hatch and also the doors when they are open cause they will be out in the wind.
Yes very true Allan! Got to keep that in mind
Tarkine looks beautiful. The doors are very fine, the heater system is schmick. Top job eh.
Ah yeah thankyou! We are feeling chuffed
That heating system looks pretty robust, plus, it looks nicely put together with quality components that should last, super choice there! It’s good you did the install, not only to familiarize yourself with the system and how it works, but also placing it and attaching it where you want it.
Wow, those doors and the heavy brass hinges….dang, you’ve outdone yourself again!!! Thanks so much, another great episode!
Ah thanks Nena, always love your positive and wonderful feedback! Very well said.
Thanks!
Hi
Det ser ud til at være et super fint system. Da jeg lever i Danmark med et køligt klima har jeg bygget lignende system i min båd og har følgende kommentar/anbefalinger.
Jeg vil anbefal at lave gulvvarme og det kan gøres ved at trække pex rør rundt i båden for eksempel i kistebænke og under dørken.
Da jeg er lidt følsom over for støj vil jeg anbefale at flytte varmere så langt væk fra jeres sove område som det er muligt.
Da varme enheden skal serviceres hvert andet år vil jeg anbefale at den sidder let tilgænglig så den er let at afmontere😅
Mit anlæg er også tilsluttet til motoren, vi af en veksler så har man også varme og varmt vand under motor sejlads.
Gulvvarme er noget langsommere giver en fantastik fordeling af varmen og er lydløst. Og blæseren kan bruges til den hurtige opvarmning.
Forsat god arbejdslyst med jeres meget fine Bådebygger arbejde.
Br Niels
Selected a vendor, reviewed the installation locations, process and concerns. Then you got the job done. Most of the installs I have seen were with Chinese diesel heaters alone, with long outlet hoses. First time seeing a combo unit, the furnace and a coolant radiator tube heat exchanger assembly. Insulated tubing preferred with shorter outlet runs for faster heating. You have your reasons, but the external deck vent pipe is further outboard than expected.
I would have thought the vent stack would’ve been on the highest part of the boat as well. Be sure not to touch that with a bare foot one day.
Yep thanks! Yeah we were restricted by the length of the exhaust and how to get the exhaust up without ruining the deck layout or the cabin layout, everything is a compromise but we are very happy with the end result!
The doors and the companionway hatch look really nice. The finish on the hatch is lovely really makes that wood look good. Stay warm. :)
Aw thanks! Yeah hoping the doors will keep us cozy down below!
I look forward to every episode and really appreciate the detailed craftsmanship. There was a brief mention about insulating the air output duct and want to point out - however obvious - that the duct is located entirely within the heated space, so no heat is "lost", and may contribute to the overall comfort, uninsulated. Thanks for the channel.
Ah yes thankyou! Always appreciate some feedback and advise! Thanks
Lovely doors and a well engineered heating system. As always a lot of thought applied to both the aesthetics and the quality of construction.
Thanks Tim, much appreciated!
Love Saturday mornings with BBTR.
Yes! Glad to hear it!
Sorry to repeat myself but ANOTHER GREAT EPISODE !!! The doors look fantastic can't wait to see the 'finishing touches'. cheers
Ah great to hear so! Thanks!!
The last shot was the best!!!
Yeah! So funny hey haha
Nice to have mix of woodwork and systems. Great 🇬🇧 breakfast viewing 👍🏻
Great! We are glad to hear it was a good balance! Thanks
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River worked for me. Hope channel giving you ROI you need. 🤞🏻
Looking great!!! Those diesel heat guys (awesome product !!) should figure out a way to put an electrical indicator /interlock on the exhaust vent. I could def see myself forgetting to open or close it :)
Yep that is a very good idea! We are thinking a lockout tag or separate breaker so you don’t forget!
Nice work installing the heater in a very confined space.
Thanks! It took a bit of time and thought but super happy with it now!
Always enjoy your videos, just wish they were longer ! The boat looks great 👍🏻
Longer again?! Hmm we can try haha
G’day, thank you for a great episode, I am a wooden boat tragic, I have learnt something today. Cheers Michael
Oh that’s fantastic to hear Michael! Glad we can be of use and education! Cheers
Great summation if the furnace CD contained, The Doors - Light My Fire.
Great episode again. Thank you !
Our pleasure! Cheers
Very nice,this should keep you from freezing to death 🙂
Hahaha yeah it’s been quite cold and wet lately so been brilliant to warm up and dry the shoes!
Love it!
Great to hear! thanks
I love the hatch doors and am most impressed that you've installed the diesel heater yourself, although two points come to mind. With the furnace beneath the floorboards, does it present a fire risk? And with the exhaust chimney placed in the scuppers, won't it be under water a lot of the time? If the locking mechanism fails Tarkine will flood.
All valid worries, the furnace is not beneath the floor boards, it’s beneath the saloon bench, it’s actually only the blower that is beneath the floor. And there is no real risk, they are very safe units. We have been watching it closely in the testing phase and nothing seems to get too hot. With the exhaust we were dictated by the maximum allowed length of the exhaust and how to get it to deck, this was the only place we could make it work without ruining the interior layout or creating a toe kicker on deck.
The locking mechanism is very simple and reliable so that will not fail. Tarkine is a fairly high sided boat so the scuppers going underwater are not a daily occurrence
Great progress! The door are beautiful! I'm excited to see the fiber glassing phase. BTW I missed something or the engine is not installed yet!
Ah yeah you may have to scroll back a bit but we have put the engine in! She’s hidden away for now. We will get back into engineer world soon enough..
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River Yeah, I see the engine I refer to the connection to the propeller.
@@josebembibre7298 Ah yes.. Still saving our pennies for the Prop! and not sure which way to go with that..
Doors look sooooo cooool
Hahahaha great! Glad you like them!
Would be great if you could lift the doors off the hinges.
Oh yes a great idea!
The exhaust gas temp off these heaters is circa 300C. Because the top mushroom of the skin fitting is directly in the exhaust gas flow it too will get very very hot.
These skin fittings were originally developed by Wallas for their paraffin heaters and used a double flue design where the combustion air flowed down the outside of the hot gas pipe providing cooling to the pipe and skin fitting.
I’m not saying it won’t work but I think you should test fire the system for a couple of hours and make your own choice on how hot is acceptable to you. I must have fitted literally a 1000 heaters to boats over the last 25 years.
It looks a nice system and variable speed fans manage the noise which is the biggest complaint, along with high power consumption over night, that hydronic systems get.
Beautiful doors.
Thank you! 😊
Nice one.. Something to add to a pre passage checklist; close the chimney..😂
Hahah yeah!
I would guess the permanent placement of the vent termination will leave it flush with the deck rather than proud
on that plywood block?
Yep correct! The block is very temporary!
Put pipe fittings on plumber's hemp.
Nice bit of kit! Off to see if they ship to the UK.
Yeah they sure do! Worldwide! Link is in the description for their website if your curious
loving the hatch, that looks very pretty, small BUT, if the doors are finished, what stops water from entering below the doors, should the doors not drop down below the 'sill' (wrong word i think) the part you step over - but it does look bloody good though - the whole boat is beginning to take on some very nice detail, i wonder if you might be adding some very sexy corner cabinets such as on 'Tally Ho' which really add to a warm cozy interior, built by Leo and crew on 'Sampson Boat Building Co' great channel
Yeah a fair question, there is a bevel on the sill to make the water drain away and also it is raised up behind the doors which will help keep it water tight
Hope this last week's weather passed you by our part of the state got hit pretty hard
Oh yeah it was a wild ride but we survived! Thanks
😍
I would think the vent for the heater would go on top of the coach roof. Hmmmm
Not enough length in the exhaust, we are dictated by the manufacturers specs so didn’t have much choice there
Sorry Matt.
This is the first time that I have thought, "That doesn't look like the best idea to me."
The companionway doors have a bottom rail that will catch and keep water between the rail and the panel. ROT!
Also with doors, they are open or closed. You can't have a half closed system like storm boards.
Lastly, DARK, You only have small portlights in the saloon. it will end up being a cave.
I know you have experience and are putting a lot of thought into every detail.
Feel like a dicktelling you this, but ....
All the best
gary in Japan.
Hey Gary, totally understand your worries. In the next episode we may explain the water shedding and idea behind the doors more. The bottom rail has a bevel to shed water and the doors do not touch at the bottom so there will be no rot do not fear! We do t like storm boards as they get in the way and never really have a home, the doors can be on lift off hinges if we really want and to have a pothole in the back is a great idea but privacy is also nice, we are not struggling for light and if we do then a couple of deck prisms will solve that. You not being a dick at all and we appreciate the honestly and worries! It’s always good to hear feedback, thanks Gary!
Thanks for getting back.
I knew that you would have it covered.
I sail in winter here in Japan and I have a one board, two board and three board companion storm boards. The one piece is plastic and the three pieces are my cutting board, companionway seat and galley extension. Gary
Hmm. I know, space is limited, but I would try to keep the heater and other systems out of the bilge. For airflow, you could add an outlet in there.
Ah yes versatile boards! That’s a great idea. Cheers Gary!
Yeah we will explain more in the next video, the blowers are actually pulling air from within the cabin through some vents. Sorry for the lack of explanation!
You should not put tape or thread seal on a seal joint, i.e. if there is an o-ring. I fear you will have leaks.
Yeah very true! Don’t believe we had any O rings so needed thread seal and next episode will reveal all but no leaks so that was nice
You know if you put to much sealant on you at least have the right amount. If you use too little you will never know. Always use too much.
Ah yes that is some great wisdom! Thanks!!
Ik geniet van jullie video's. Maar ook van de piano muziek. kun je mijn door geven wie en wat?
Dank je wel Hans voor het compliment. De composers die ik gebruikt heb voor deze video heten; 'Alsever Lake' en 'Renderings'.
Fijn ook om feedback te krijgen over de muziek. Het is steeds een zoektocht naar welke muziek goed past en ik hoop altijd dat mensen het mooi vinden.
Bedankt voor het volgen van ons project! Warme groenten
I’m not to sure I’d put her in the bilge. Her bilge is clean and not smelly now but she will be. Also any fuel smells will settle in the bilge.
Fuel smells means fuel vapor
It took me a while to understand "hating" everything.
Ahhh heating and hating sound familiar in the Australian accent?
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Is there any concern running copper in aluminium where it could be exposed to salt water?
Ah which part in particular are you worried about?
@@Building_a_Boat_by_the_River specifically the air heater with the copper and aluminum heating coil that sits in the bilge. If you get saltwater in the bilge (unlikely but not impossible) it would serve as an electrolyte between the copper and aluminium and could set up an electrolytic reaction which would wreck the aluminium components.
Hate to be blunt but move the vent to the cabin top and get the blower out of the bilge! You should have known better on both counts.
No we disagree.
Not enough length in the exhaust to get it to the cabin too.
And the blowers home is perfect
Thanks for your concern but not a concern for us
Double tension fit? Youre obviously not a plumber~ Thats called a union. And ftr, ANYTIME you are piping with tapered pipe and fittings, you should always use ptfe/teflon tape AND pipe/thread sealant, aka pipe dope. Not one, or the other, but BOTH~ ESPECIALLY on fittings that are used in hydronic heating applications that will see constant and prolonged expansion and contraction. Also, you can save yourself a LOT of headaches, and mess, especially if what you were plumbing is not affixed and able to be moved, you could have capped all of the outlets, affixed a schrader/needle valve, then pressure/leak tested all of your connections BEFORE installing the unit and adding water~ Trust me, its WAY easier to repair a leak with air, than when the entire system and unit are full of water. Fyi, I am a 20 year+ plumber/pipe fitter~
Hate to be negative but I would never put something like that in any bilge. A nice wood burner in the cabin to take the edge off the cold would have been better.
Ah fair enough but we disagree with that, wood burner is messy and you need to find wood. No trees a sea!
"it's got a CD" .... wtf ... who has a CD drive these days ?
I suppose they want to make sure the info is available to everyone, also people who might not be online as much? Who knows!