TRADING PLACES (1983) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | MOVIE REACTION

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  • @1byte4
    @1byte4 2 роки тому +27

    I have no problem with the language used in this movie, those characters were racist, this is the sort of things they would have been saying. It served a purpose in the film.

  • @PaulDamonThomas
    @PaulDamonThomas 2 роки тому +38

    "They're going to the stock thingy!? Where everyone goes 'AAHHRAHHRAHHHH'!!!" 24:30
    🤣 We love you, Cassie! 🤣

    • @endersdragon34
      @endersdragon34 8 місяців тому

      To be fair, no one goes there anymore as everything is done online. Probably has been that way for most of her life.

    • @RRW359
      @RRW359 4 місяці тому

      @@endersdragon34 Also the specific "stock thingy" they went to doesn't exactly exist anymore for unrelated reasons.

  • @McPh1741
    @McPh1741 2 роки тому +618

    The 80s was Eddie Murphy at his prime. Between this, Beverly Hills Cop, and Coming to America, he was a comedy king.

    • @keithgoode6313
      @keithgoode6313 2 роки тому +69

      don't forget 48 hrs. and Another 48 hrs. with Nick Nolte. Big box office!

    • @markman613
      @markman613 2 роки тому +32

      You see the Duke bros again at the end of "Coming to America".

    • @hulkhatepunybanner
      @hulkhatepunybanner 2 роки тому +13

      *He sure was. Eddie Murphy took over from Richard Pryor as America's sole-black-man-who-can-be-lead-in-a-movie position.*

    • @StinkyGreenBud
      @StinkyGreenBud 2 роки тому

      @@hulkhatepunybanner Then that dipshit Wesley Snipes came along in the 90's. Yuk.

    • @AlexG1020
      @AlexG1020 2 роки тому +11

      even his kids movies in the 90's and early 2000's are classics
      My Name is Dolemite was great I'm glad he is back

  • @Serai3
    @Serai3 2 роки тому +48

    "This is not Shakespeare, Louie." Actually, I think it is. I think old Will would find this story hilarious and very much want to write it up as a play. It has deception, rotten wealth, switched identities, a hooker with a heart of gold, comeuppance for the evil and a happy ending for the clever and good. It's perfect for Shakespeare! :)

    • @michaelanderson7288
      @michaelanderson7288 5 місяців тому

      Actually, rather than Shakespeare, I think this is the kind of stuff Mark Twain would be down with.

    • @ontheblockgod
      @ontheblockgod Місяць тому +1

      YES! I completely agree 😂

  • @GodlessScummer
    @GodlessScummer 2 роки тому +285

    Cassie now you've been introduced to Eddie Murphy. Reacting to Beverley Hills Cop is an absolute must.

  • @AubreySciFi
    @AubreySciFi 2 роки тому +82

    My mom was an extra in this movie! We were living in the Philadelphia area when I was a kid and she heard about extra casting for this film. She ended up being a party goer in the Duke and Duke Christmas party where Winthorp shows up in the dirty santa suit. She met all the leads and said they were all very pleasant to work with. Contrary to their characters in the film, the actors playing the Duke Brothers were very nice in real life. The actor playing Randolph was especially gregarious behind the scenes.

    • @TSIRKLAND
      @TSIRKLAND 2 роки тому +16

      Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy (The Duke brothers) were both stars of the golden age of cinema in the 1940s. Both tremendously talented and well-liked fellas. Real class acts. 'Randolph' was the 'nurture' guy- the one without a mustache. That's Ralph Bellamy. Don Ameche (mustache, 'nature, like racehorses, it's in the blood') was a big song and dance man of many musicals. Super talented. It is so awesome that your mom got to have that experience and meet that cast! What a cool story to be able to tell; what memories.

    • @AubreySciFi
      @AubreySciFi 2 роки тому +12

      @@TSIRKLAND oh yes I know Ralph and Don from other films, and my mom at the time probably knew their work better than Murphy and Ackroyd who were relative newcomers to stardom in 1983.

    • @beatmet2355
      @beatmet2355 2 роки тому +5

      @@TSIRKLAND Bellamy was great opposite Cary Grant in His Girl Friday and Ameche is mentioned in a Marx brothers movie in reference to his movie about A.G. Bell.

  • @Fuzz32
    @Fuzz32 2 роки тому +93

    That stare. My favorite part of this whole movie.
    And just to let you know, Don Ameche who played Mortimer Duke hated swearing and using racial slurs. He only agreed to use the F word if it was done in one take only. And every time he was forced to use the N word he would apologize profusely to Eddie Murphy even though he would assure him that it was okay under the circumstances.

    • @philwill0123
      @philwill0123 2 роки тому

      The irony being now he would be considered "woke", when really he hated using the N word because it disgusted him. Amazing that being respectful of others can be used against you

    • @Fuzz32
      @Fuzz32 2 роки тому

      @@philwill0123 a sign of the times sadly. If you use the word you’re a bigot and a racist. If you don’t you’re woke and spineless. And if you walk the middle ground, you don’t exist. A tragedy really.

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 2 роки тому +20

      A true gentleman celebrity indeed.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому +3

      Really ?

  • @ronfehr7899
    @ronfehr7899 2 роки тому +9

    The officer who accused Winthorp of having PCP in his possession was none other than the voice of Yoda himself, Frank Oz.

  • @tbmike23
    @tbmike23 2 роки тому +19

    "Looking good, Billy Ray! Feeling good, Louis!"

  • @ct6852
    @ct6852 2 роки тому +4

    Woah flashback to the kid in high school who always said "lookin' good Billy Ray." It all makes sense. The more you know. 💫

  • @Tacticalchef666
    @Tacticalchef666 2 роки тому +138

    Fun fact the actor who played Coleman is also the same actor who played Marcus Brody in Indiana Jones

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 2 роки тому +14

      Denholm Elliott. He has been in many movies, mostly English I think, but came to a greater recognition in Indian Jones films.

    • @stephenbrady4829
      @stephenbrady4829 2 роки тому +6

      @@Cheepchipsable That's right. He had a storied career in British films and TV, but is now chiefly remembered for Indy. He died of an AIDS-related illness in 1992

    • @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
      @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 2 роки тому +8

      And Beaks was the principal from "The Breakfast Club," of course.

    • @Tacticalchef666
      @Tacticalchef666 2 роки тому +1

      @@Cheepchipsable there’s another fun film he was in called Toy Soldiers

    • @vladtepes97
      @vladtepes97 2 роки тому +1

      @@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy not principal. teacher

  • @DaveBukowski
    @DaveBukowski 2 роки тому +30

    My high school economics teacher during my junior year is who introduced me to this movie and we also took a field trip to the Chicago Board of Trade (CBOT). Yes the floors look that crazy. What Winthorpe and Valentine did in the trading scene is called "selling short". A definition of it that you can find online is: "sell stock or other securities or commodities which one does not own at the time, in the hope of buying at a lower price before the delivery time." What they did was have the Duke's trader push the prices up because they gave the false report so it was thought that prices would go up after the official report was given due to a shortage. So they waited until the stock prices were really high, then started selling, even though they had no stock in their account yet. After the report, all the people who jumped in on selling wanted to sell it off before the prices were too low and they would take a severe loss. Once it was lower to a good amount, Winthorpe and Valentine bought at the extremely discounted prices to make up for what they "sold" and to break even on the commodities which was nothing to begin with.
    Now this is the extent on my knowledge of it and it is a strategy in some stocks, but carries a lot of risks, however the risks were mitigated since they knew exactly what that crop report was going to contain. I'm not a trader or in stocks, but have an understanding of it thanks to my economics teacher going over it in high school and we had to track stocks and news involving those stocks for the entire semester of our class. Also had to keep tabs on prices of items at stores as well. It was a very fun class and quite educational in the aspects of capitalism. It seems the people who dislike capitalism the most are the ones who really never took a deep look into it. When you put money into your retirement funds, this is where that money goes, into investments.
    Also, did you notice the play in words in the movie title. It is not just a trading of places of rich to poor and poor to rich, but also it takes place in a "trading place", the stock exchange.

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 2 роки тому +2

      Would love to see Cassie reacting to similar movies like Wall Street, Margin Call, The Big Short and probably Wolf of Wall Street (Although Cassie will probably have to hold on that one due to how much nudity and swearing is in it…).

  • @andrewreiber7691
    @andrewreiber7691 2 роки тому +68

    Imagine being Cassie and being able to say to her kids and husband, “be quiet, it’s time for mommy to go to work”! Then she gets to go lay down in her bed and enjoy a movie with no interruptions. Perfect job!!!

  • @zenbyo
    @zenbyo 2 роки тому +7

    7:49 young Giancarlo Esposito standing up holding the jail bars

  • @RETNASCANZ
    @RETNASCANZ 2 роки тому +196

    If you liked Eddie Murphy in this movie You'll also like "Coming To America" which is not a sequel but sort of takes place in the same "universe". Plus Eddie has a lot of great classics like 48hrs, Beverly Hills Cop to name a couple.

    • @richardb6260
      @richardb6260 2 роки тому +5

      A couple of my favorite Eddie Murphy films are Boomerang and Bowfinger.

    • @RETNASCANZ
      @RETNASCANZ 2 роки тому +8

      @@richardb6260 Bowfinger is definitely one of my top 5 favorite Eddie Murphy movies.

    • @joshgrumiaux6820
      @joshgrumiaux6820 2 роки тому +5

      Coming to America must be on the short list. One of the funniest comedies ever! And she'll be glad she saw this one first.

    • @gregtalley1601
      @gregtalley1601 2 роки тому +21

      The Dukes cameo in Coming To America is such a great throwback to Trading Places.

    • @Ishai1
      @Ishai1 2 роки тому +3

      @@richardb6260 Bowfinger is great, Steve Martin and Eddie together, I wonder if they could do that today, specifically Heather Graham's role.
      The Distinguished Gentleman came out the same year as Boomerang, was also ignored by most. I always liked the idea of a con man realizing the biggest con is politics

  • @TheChrisleekay
    @TheChrisleekay 2 роки тому +58

    There are two reasons I remember this film so fondly and they both belong to Jamie Lee Curtis!!

    • @douglasdavis8395
      @douglasdavis8395 Рік тому +9

      They are both fine actresses.

    • @campagnollo
      @campagnollo 10 місяців тому +2

      JLC? They can’t be that……WOW!!!!

  • @RaymondJohnson
    @RaymondJohnson 2 роки тому +135

    Yes, Eddie is charming in this movie and if there's anything obnoxious about him it's his sheer amount of talent he had at a young age. He had just turned 22 when this movie came out and it was only his 2nd movie. It's hard to think of many people who were such stars practically from Day 1.

    • @gregtalley1601
      @gregtalley1601 2 роки тому +20

      He wasn't even 20 when he started on SNL and basically single handedly kept the show going after some weak years after the original cast had moved on and the stretch where Lorne Michaels wasn't producing the show. He's among the all time great comedians.

    • @operator0
      @operator0 2 роки тому +8

      This was the beginning of the Eddie Murphy decade where he could do no wrong. It seems to me that every movie he did during this time period was a blockbuster, and instant classic.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 2 роки тому +4

      Eddie Murphy is a legend

    • @RLucas3000
      @RLucas3000 2 роки тому

      @@operator0 Except the shitty one he did with Dudley Moore, but Eddie has talked (quite humorously) about that.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому

      He had a significant journey

  • @paulmurphy8993
    @paulmurphy8993 2 роки тому +10

    "Looking good Billy Ray" was definitely a thing for many years. Brought back a lot of memories.

  • @ianlove1215
    @ianlove1215 2 роки тому +63

    I do like the way Eddie breaks "the 4th wall" when the Dukes are going through the stuff they deal in & looks straight at the camera. The guy that was in the gorilla costume is James Belushi, his brother was John who was in Blues Brothers with Dan Ackroyd.

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 2 роки тому +4

      That’s one of Director John Landis‘s favorite techniques in his movies.

    • @stephenbrady4829
      @stephenbrady4829 2 роки тому +2

      That's right. And the shorter of the dumb baggage-handling guys is Al Franken, who I believe is now a US Senator

    • @operator0
      @operator0 2 роки тому +3

      @@stephenbrady4829 Used to be a Senator. He got caught up in some kind of scandal and resigned, I think.

    • @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
      @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 2 роки тому +9

      Yeah, I love the look into the camera that totally says, "Could this asshole be any more patronizing?" Another bit role most people miss is musician Bo Diddley as the pawn shop proprietor.

    • @Reani71
      @Reani71 2 роки тому +5

      I think a role that almost everyone misses is that of Giancarlo Esposito who of course is now famous because of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. He is the young inmate in prison standing next to Eddie Murphy.

  • @phillipmullineaux9641
    @phillipmullineaux9641 Місяць тому +1

    Jim Belushi had a good TV show, movie as a K9 cop, with Arnold in Red Heat, and that movie u love with the girl that gets a new heart with Minnie Driver!

  • @ThomasCorp
    @ThomasCorp 2 роки тому +138

    It’s such sweet revenge that Louis and Billy Ray have against the Duke brothers. Something that’s particularly great about it is that it could have been realistically pulled off when this was made. Newer technology has made it impossible, as have newer laws and acts that have been passed. One such act passed has even received the informal name “The Eddie Murphy Rule” all because of this film.

    • @gregtalley1601
      @gregtalley1601 2 роки тому +10

      For one dollar, no less. The perfect revenge.

    • @nickma71
      @nickma71 2 роки тому +8

      It still goes on, insider trading. But the now proven selective prosecution makes it so only a few benefit. Nobody should, true story.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому

      That's business

    • @nickma71
      @nickma71 Рік тому

      @@lexkanyima2195 It's socialism to have fixed outcomes. Like former Speaker Nancy Pelosi unloading her Google stock a few days before the DoJ announcement of attempted break up for anti-trust violations.

    • @JonathanReynolds1
      @JonathanReynolds1 Рік тому +2

      Denholm Elliott plays the butler - he was Marcus in Raiders of the Lost Ark and in Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade.

  • @exqueue3813
    @exqueue3813 2 роки тому +39

    As others said, Eddie Murphy was gold in the 80s. Trafing Places, Coming to America, Beverly Hills Cop, 48 Hours. He was a nonstop hitmaker.

    • @salv9983
      @salv9983 2 роки тому +4

      Yes, 48 hours should be right near the top of that list.

    • @scipioafricanus5871
      @scipioafricanus5871 2 роки тому

      Also the movie where he played that combat pilot in... "Strafing places" lmao

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому +1

      His peak

  • @kathyastrom1315
    @kathyastrom1315 2 роки тому +53

    The line delivery that cracks me up is “It…Was…The…Dukes!!!” Eddie Murphy is just so hilarious.

    • @Cheepchipsable
      @Cheepchipsable 2 роки тому

      Reminds me of a scene from Young Frankenstein.

    • @_WillCAD_
      @_WillCAD_ 2 роки тому

      @@Cheepchipsable Always reminded me of the scene in Stripes where Hulka has just been blown up, Ox asks him, "Sergeant, does this mean we're through for the day?" and Hulka grabs Ox by the throat. Ox chokes out, "Get 'im off! Get 'im off!" while Russel tell Hulka, "Save your strength, Sergeant! Save your strength!"

    • @RideAcrossTheRiver
      @RideAcrossTheRiver 2 роки тому

      "Und thun she stupped un thuh bawll!"

    • @w41duvernay
      @w41duvernay 2 роки тому

      THEY were making fun of the exercist movie.

  • @sonosoloio
    @sonosoloio 2 роки тому +4

    for 40 years now in italy this is the christmas film broadcast every year 😂

  • @tamika6519
    @tamika6519 8 місяців тому +3

    This was filmed in Philadelphia downtown Philadelphia..center city across the street from the city hall building where Dan was thrown out the bank by the guards .. calling him u know a heron dealer I miss the tri state area.. .. I love your commentator so sweet.. your the first..one I like good movie oh today I'm a digital mixed media artist in las Vegas nevada.. keep up. The good work 😊

  • @itsnotme07
    @itsnotme07 7 місяців тому +2

    I really enjoy your reactions to these movies Cassie. Just awesome watching you freak out (when needed) and wanting to make wrongs right!! LOL
    Funny thing about this movie, what Winthorpe and Valentine did, was not illegal at the time. It is now, "stealing" government non-public information. There is part of the law that is called "The Eddie Murphy Rule" because of this movie. Hilarious!!

  • @e.d.2096
    @e.d.2096 2 роки тому +65

    Best quote of the movie! "Those men wanted to have sex with me! " kills me every time!

    • @GaryPewteaux63
      @GaryPewteaux63 2 роки тому +15

      What kills me is how Mortimer reacts when someone tells him his brother is dying.

    • @nickmanzo8459
      @nickmanzo8459 2 роки тому +2

      The part where Winthorpe says “put that phone down!!!” With a piece of ham kills me too XD

    • @dr.burtgummerfan439
      @dr.burtgummerfan439 2 роки тому +3

      "Please to help me with my rooooksack?"

    • @gabegarcia7344
      @gabegarcia7344 2 роки тому +4

      My favorite line in that movie is "can I suggest using your nightstick officer" and the cops reaction is part of the whole scene that makes me LOL everytime I see it

    • @Tony-B23
      @Tony-B23 2 роки тому +2

      "Hold on.....FUCK OFF!!" So many great lines in this movie, never gets old

  • @twylanaythias
    @twylanaythias 2 роки тому +2

    Bonus Trivia:
    In "Coming to America" (another Eddie Murphy film), Don Ameche and Ralph Bellamy reprise their roles as Randolph and Mortimer Duke - they're the two bums living in the abandoned car which Akeem (Murphy) gives the paper bag full of money to. Hence, Randolph's (Ameche's) line of "Mortimer... We're back!"

  • @oscardiggs246
    @oscardiggs246 2 роки тому +32

    Eddie Murphy and Dan Ackroyd are great in this, but the real star is Jamie Lee Curtis. Halloween was her start, but this movie propelled her on a trajectory that has never really come down. Aside from the obvious, she is so insanely likable here.
    Also, Denholm Elliott is awesome in everything he did.

    • @rnw2739
      @rnw2739 2 роки тому

      She has very much descended to subterranean level a long time ago. 'A Fish Called Wanda' was her only other great role after this and now she just keep churning out those pathetic 'Halloween' sequels.

    • @RDSports5
      @RDSports5 2 роки тому +9

      @@rnw2739 I'm guessing you've never seen True Lies then. Also, although Im not a fan of it, my little sister's generation loved Freaky Friday. So Jamie did manage to stay very relevant several decades after Trading Places and A Fish Called Wanda. I liked her in Knives Out as well

    • @rnw2739
      @rnw2739 2 роки тому

      @@RDSports5 I have.....unfortunately... and 'Mother's Boys'.... yes....

    • @partypoppers1988
      @partypoppers1988 2 роки тому +1

      @@rnw2739 You need to watch more films.

    • @rnw2739
      @rnw2739 2 роки тому

      @@partypoppers1988 Not with her in.... crap she's churning out.

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 роки тому +3

    All you need to know to understand the ending is that Louis and Billy Ray sold all their futures contracts at $1.42 per contract and then bought them all back at $.29 per contract, so if you do the math, that's a difference of $1.13 per contract. And if they bought about 30 million contracts, that means they made about $33 million.

  • @sunyatsen5224
    @sunyatsen5224 2 роки тому +20

    My favorite line to sound snobby didn't make the cut. "... and she stepped on the ball."
    Cracks me up every time for some reason.

    • @jasonp1162
      @jasonp1162 2 роки тому +2

      This line is a homage to "Auntie Mame", from a story told by a character named Gloria who was terrible snob. Clip here: ua-cam.com/video/WyBVCp21Reo/v-deo.html

    • @kellynorton
      @kellynorton 2 роки тому +1

      @@jasonp1162 Nice to know where that's from. That clip is fantastic.

    • @jasonp1162
      @jasonp1162 2 роки тому +1

      @@kellynorton If you ever come across this movie, i highly recommend it. It is a beloved classic

    • @joelwillems4081
      @joelwillems4081 2 роки тому +4

      Said by Jamie Lee Curtis' sister, Kelly. She played Muffy.

  • @YodatheHobbit
    @YodatheHobbit 2 роки тому +12

    I feel like I should recommend Working Girl (1988) and see if anyone else in the comments agrees it's a good fit for you, then maybe it could be voted on on Patreon. It's got Melanie Griffith, Harrison Ford, and Sigourney Weaver. I never saw it for years... had heard of the title, but had no clue was it was about, then realized it had a lot of good actors I liked and it made me realize I really wanted to see a new movie with both 80's Harrison Ford and 80's Sigourney Weaver in it as I first knew them. It was a pretty interesting story, being similar in New York business tone as this movie is, not as much as a comedy as this, but more inspiring.

  • @trinaq
    @trinaq 2 роки тому +49

    I adore this movie, Eddie, Dan and Jamie Lee are fantastic, and the ending is triumphant!

    • @primemover1416
      @primemover1416 2 роки тому +1

      About the ending: never understood why Dan and Eddie were wearing long sleeve sweaters at the beach.

    • @Philjj61
      @Philjj61 2 роки тому +1

      Not only triumphant but joyful as well.

  • @criskity
    @criskity 2 роки тому +5

    10:45 That's Frank Oz, the voice of Yoda, Miss Piggy, and the Cookie Monster. This movie truly has a superstar cast!

  • @william_santiago
    @william_santiago 2 роки тому +39

    This was one of my standby movies when I was young. This, Ghostbusters, Big Trouble in Little China, Stripes, Brewster's Millions, among others. I can repeat this whole movie, music and all, verbatim.
    edit - Yes, this is what your Mom is quoting. "Looking good, Billy Ray!"

    • @osmanyousif7849
      @osmanyousif7849 2 роки тому +2

      Don’t forget The Blues Brothers…

    • @leefischer5814
      @leefischer5814 2 роки тому +2

      Need to show some love for Spies like Us, Golden Child, Coming to America and Harlem Nights, as well as any John Candy movie for classic comedies and I'm with ya.

    • @johncooper7570
      @johncooper7570 2 роки тому +2

      @@zerpblerd5966 I got my better half to watch Silver Streak recently. She’d never heard of it let alone seen it.
      She LOVED it.

    • @wheresatari668
      @wheresatari668 2 роки тому

      Brewster's Millions is a highly underrated classic

  • @joshuaciresoli2927
    @joshuaciresoli2927 2 роки тому +2

    I loved the dopey look Al Franken went with as the baggage handler. As to your question, yes, even insider trading was legal when this movie was made

  • @raydurz
    @raydurz 2 роки тому +13

    Whenever Cassie says "Winthorpe" lol. That was Jim Belushi in the ape costume, Moff Gideon standing next to Valentine in jail, and Miss Piggy/Yoda planting drugs on Winthorpe.

    • @verbalkint5795
      @verbalkint5795 2 роки тому +5

      Don't forget former Minnesota Senator Al Franken as the shorter drunk porter on the train.

    • @DavidMeddowsTaylor
      @DavidMeddowsTaylor 2 роки тому +2

      And also muppets Scooter and Janice as the Duke brother's trader.

  • @1bossdj
    @1bossdj 2 роки тому +19

    As a father, I assure you that we're always happy to see more of Jamie Lee Curtis.

    • @phousefilms
      @phousefilms 2 роки тому +1

      I get it. It's a pun....(Lol.)

    • @Windavinci
      @Windavinci 11 місяців тому

      Great b00bs

  • @KevyNova
    @KevyNova 2 роки тому +4

    There are two Muppet performers in this movie: The bald cop is Frank Oz who performed Miss Piggy, Fozzie, Animal, Grover, Bert, Cookie Monster and even Yoda.
    The Dukes’ assistant at the stock exchange was Richard Hunt (RIP) who performed Scooter, Janice, Statler (one of the old men in the balcony), Sweetums, Junior Gorg on Fraggle Rock, and many other characters.

  • @samuraiwarriorsunite
    @samuraiwarriorsunite 2 роки тому +30

    Murphy is a brilliant comedian. He basically saved SNL when he joined the cast.

  • @English_MoFo
    @English_MoFo 2 роки тому +7

    "It was a stone groove my man. You are the most righteous.."

    • @ResidentPetrolhead
      @ResidentPetrolhead 2 роки тому

      "Yeah, right, just get the f*** out, man, let's go. S***..."

    • @geoffwilliams4478
      @geoffwilliams4478 7 місяців тому +1

      ​@@ResidentPetrolhead"...and be quiet out there! My neighbors asleep! They work too!"

  • @jamesbolling6681
    @jamesbolling6681 2 роки тому +2

    Bo Diddley is the Pawn Shop owner. His music was in the background. The cop at the booking station was Frank Oz from the Muppets, voice of Miss Piggy etc

  • @footofjuniper8212
    @footofjuniper8212 2 роки тому +6

    "They're going to the stock thingy? Where everyone goes AH-RAH-RAH-LA!"
    I love this channel so much.

  • @flashgordon6238
    @flashgordon6238 2 роки тому +20

    "Looking good Billy Ray" is indeed an original line from this movie. The nudity scenes with Jamie Curtis made this one of the top comedy films for teenage boys. It was wonderful to watch her on the big screen...

    • @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
      @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 2 роки тому +2

      Yes, I imagine in some circles this is also probably known as "The Movie Where Jamie Lee Curtis Shows Her Tits." 😏 Of course, all those bawdy R-rated comedies from the late '70s through the mid-'80s (many of which involved John Landis and/or Harold Ramis, and/or Ivan Reitman) were kind of notorious for their nudity among preteen and teenage boys: "The Kentucky Fried Movie," "Animal House," "Caddyshack," "Stripes," "Vacation," this one, etc.

    • @drhkleinert8241
      @drhkleinert8241 2 роки тому

      @@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy Good ole times, and Curtis dont have to hide anything, she looks that great...same in the dance scene in True Lies...

    • @Philjj61
      @Philjj61 2 роки тому +2

      Not so bad watching her in private as well. I hope she appreciates all the hard work that's been done in honour of those scenes.

    • @flashgordon6238
      @flashgordon6238 2 роки тому

      @@Philjj61 Hard work! clever....

  • @bletheringfool
    @bletheringfool 2 роки тому +3

    There were 2 Muppet performers in this movie. Frank Oz (Fozzie Bear, Miss Piggy, Animal (Yoda from Star wars) etc.) played the cop in the scene where Dan Aykroyd gets arrested. He sticks his finger in the bag and tells him it's angel dust and Richard Hunt (Scooter, Janice from the band, Statler, Beaker and more, played Wilson, the guy at the end who was on the floor for the Dukes.

    • @Markusewitz
      @Markusewitz 5 місяців тому +1

      Oh, didn't know about Richard Hunt! Very cool! 😊

    • @fayesouthall6604
      @fayesouthall6604 3 місяці тому

      @@Markusewitzme neither

  • @pebrain21
    @pebrain21 2 роки тому +2

    The two old guys from the Muppets are Statler and Waldorf. Also, the balding cop with the glasses when Louis gets arrested is Frank Oz (Voice of Fozzy, Piggy, Grover, and Many other Muppets). So there is a tie-in.

  • @johndough2211
    @johndough2211 2 роки тому +30

    Eddie Murphy ruled the 80’s. He was the king of comedy for a whole decade.

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому

      Robin Williams and Bill Murray

    • @johndough2211
      @johndough2211 Рік тому +1

      @@lexkanyima2195 Eddie was the King of comedy in the 80’s. Definitely not Williams and Murray. Lol

    • @lexkanyima2195
      @lexkanyima2195 Рік тому

      @@johndough2211 no, it is not

    • @johndough2211
      @johndough2211 Рік тому

      @@lexkanyima2195 opinions are like assholes…

    • @alaza61
      @alaza61 Рік тому +1

      Eddie Murphy was bigger then. The numbers at the box office don't lie.

  • @dudeusmaximus6793
    @dudeusmaximus6793 2 роки тому +18

    One of my all-time favorites. Never gets old.

  • @nsein001
    @nsein001 2 роки тому +3

    "A Long Kiss Goodnight" is a movie I watch during Christmas time

  • @mikey7046
    @mikey7046 2 роки тому +24

    You said you’ve only seen Eddie Murphy in “Dr Doolittle” you owe it to yourself to see him in “Beverly Hills Cop”, GREAT MOVIE 🍿

    • @joes2514
      @joes2514 2 роки тому +1

      Exactly. When she said that I thought, "Hey, I've been to France but I only saw the airport gift shop." 🤣

  • @CapTexamerica
    @CapTexamerica 2 роки тому +1

    Ralph Bellamy and Don Ameche (The Duke Brothers) IRL were the absolute politest, kindest, nicest people. Seeing them play these despicable characters was hilarious. Now - you need to see Coming to America - which is a true sequel to this movie in a way you won't expect but is awesome in its own right.

  • @todderickson2435
    @todderickson2435 2 роки тому +20

    Cassie, I was eagerly waiting for your reaction to Winthorpe eating the fish on the bus, and you didn't let me down. 😆 Also, your depiction of the yelling on the stock market trading floor was spot-on. Thanks for sharing all of your great reaction videos with us, and a very Merry Christmas to you!! 😊🌲

    • @chubbrubb72
      @chubbrubb72 2 роки тому

      I remember watching it at the time and thinking: "He's hit rock-bottom."

  • @pfcampos7041
    @pfcampos7041 2 роки тому +2

    "How is anything legal in this moshpit?" 😂Statler and Waldorf were the name of the Muppet guys. Now that you mentioned it that's all I see!😂 This is a great movie. We watched it all the time growing up. To be honest I never thought of it as a Christmas movie. Until I saw a lot of reactors watch it this season. As always I love watching your reactions. Merry Christmas everyone!!

  • @ja5467
    @ja5467 2 роки тому +10

    You need to watch “Beverly Hills Cop” next! You’ll love it!

  • @marklovelace297
    @marklovelace297 2 роки тому +1

    Always love seeing Judge Bork at the end!

  • @andrewsawyer1375
    @andrewsawyer1375 2 роки тому +13

    One of the best movies. Love how it covers Thanksgiving, Christmas, & New Years.

  • @shawngross5420
    @shawngross5420 2 роки тому +1

    It is hilarious that your mom has been quoting this for years without you understanding what it meant. "Looking good, Billy Ray." "Feeling good....". Love it!

  • @jamesgilburt1050
    @jamesgilburt1050 2 роки тому +7

    Dan Aykroyd is also in The Blues Brothers (1980) another comedy movie I highly recommend 😎😎

    • @StevenPerez
      @StevenPerez 2 роки тому +1

      I second this. THE BLUES BROTHERS is my favorite musical. 👍

  • @JC-bh8qx
    @JC-bh8qx 11 місяців тому +2

    My Dad and I always say, "Looking good, Billy Ray! and "Feeling good, Louis!" too 😂

  • @gog583
    @gog583 2 роки тому +14

    "48 Hours" is really good too. In a different kinda a way, as it's a action/drama/comedy. Co-stars Nick Nolte.

    • @Rob-eo5ql
      @Rob-eo5ql 2 роки тому +2

      It’s great.

    • @russellward4624
      @russellward4624 2 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately it's a film that gets blocked a lot.

    • @drhkleinert8241
      @drhkleinert8241 2 роки тому +2

      The start of Murphys Hollywood career and the first "80s Action Movie"

    • @michaelcoffman4185
      @michaelcoffman4185 2 роки тому +1

      Both 48 Hours movies were good. Truly enjoyed both Eddie Murphy and Dan Akroyd in everything they have been in.

  • @cclapew
    @cclapew 2 роки тому +1

    Funny that the Muppets are mentioned with the great Frank Oz portraying one of the police officers in this film... Oz was Miss Piggy, Fozzie Bear, Animal and Sam the Eagle on the Muppet Show as well as being Bert, Grover and the Cookie Monster on Sesame Street

  • @Cadinho93
    @Cadinho93 2 роки тому +32

    "You know, it occurs to me that the best way you hurt rich people is by turning them into poor people."
    Fun Fact: Randolph (Ralph Bellamy) and Mortimer (Don Ameche) make cameo appearances in "Coming to America" (1988) as the same characters; the two are now homeless and Prince Akeem (Eddie Murphy) gives them a large amount of money to get them back off the streets.
    Also, in 2010, as part of the Wall Street Transparency and Accountability Act, which was to regulate financial markets, a rule was included which barred anyone from using secret inside information to corner markets, similar to what the Duke brothers tried to do in the movie. Since the movie inspired this rule, it has since become known as the Eddie Murphy Rule.

    • @goyasolidar
      @goyasolidar 2 роки тому +10

      Mortimer, we're back!

    • @alanmackie7012
      @alanmackie7012 2 роки тому +3

      Kinda ruins the perfect ending of TP for me. The Dukes deserved to be bums.

    • @johnfriday5169
      @johnfriday5169 2 роки тому +10

      I saw coming to America when it came out in theaters. That moment you mentioned was so surprising and unexpected...to bad Cassie won't get to experience that moment if she reads your comment. I know the movie is over 20 years old but we all know Cassie hasn't seen shit. The entire point of channels like these is to see new people react to those super cool moments in movies. At least until someone like yourself ruins it. Learn to hold your wad.

    • @jasonohara8372
      @jasonohara8372 2 роки тому +4

      Good job spoiling the easter egg for her.

    • @BigTone_1701
      @BigTone_1701 2 роки тому +1

      Cassie may recognize Ralph Bellamy from "Pretty Woman."

  • @kevinwestrom4775
    @kevinwestrom4775 7 місяців тому

    The actor who put the item into Winthorpe's coat pocket, was the Saturday detention teacher in the Breakfast Club movie.

  • @johnsample7391
    @johnsample7391 2 роки тому +5

    Based on your reaction to Dan Aykroyd eating the fish hidden in his beard, you should watch his "Bass o Matic" skit from SNL.

  • @springhousecreative
    @springhousecreative 2 роки тому +1

    Hey Cassie! Here's some movie history trivia: At the police station, the sitting policeman with glasses and almost bald talking about PCP, that's Frank Oz - the legendary voice behind Yoda (Stars Wars) and many muppet characters.

  • @paulp9274
    @paulp9274 2 роки тому +4

    You should watch Brewster's Millions with Richard Pryor and John Candy. Trading Places was written for Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, but the studio thought Pryor was too erratic, so the part went to Eddie Murphy.

    • @tonyrossell832
      @tonyrossell832 2 роки тому +1

      @@zerpblerd5966 I agree with all of these.

  • @Roadie777
    @Roadie777 2 роки тому +1

    FWIW, the cop with the bag of PCP is the voice of Yoda.

  • @aagold76
    @aagold76 2 роки тому +5

    how about a historical Xmas movie- 'The Lion in Winter'?... the year is 1183, the King of England has just lost his eldest son and the family comes together at Xmas to reorganize the realm/land... At this time in history, the English king- Henry II, owned 2/3 of modern-day France- as he was Duke of Normandy and Count of Anjou/Torraine/Maine in his own right and his wife- Eleanor of Aquitaine was Duchess of Aquitaine and Countess of Poitou in her own right (and was the ex-wife of the late King of France)... a lot of land to redistribute between their 3 surviving sons. Released in 1968, it was nominated for 10 Oscars- winning 3, actress- Katharine Hepburn, screenplay and score... also starring Peter O'Toole and in their first films, Anthony Hopkins and Timothy Dalton. The film is a mix of history, drama and comedy and was filmed on location, showing how life was back in the 12th century (with some liberties).

  • @GMC1022
    @GMC1022 2 роки тому +2

    They do "snooty rich people" so well in this movie. A classic

  • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
    @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 2 роки тому +7

    Hi Popcorn, I liked when Penelope sitting and sharing a bench at the police station. She pulled out her Binaca mouth freshener spray and sprayed her bench companions.

    • @msfeistybabe
      @msfeistybabe 2 роки тому

      I thought it was expensive perfume (and therefore usually a stronger scent & longer lasting). I don't think mouth freshener would do much if someone was very dirty & smelled really bad, as the case often is if they are homeless & have no easy access to clean clothes or bathing facilities & soap, which happens pretty often in those situations, especially back then.

    • @-M0LE
      @-M0LE 2 роки тому

      Her name is Cassie

    • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
      @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 2 роки тому

      @@-M0LE Hi, I know. Her nick name is " Popcorn ".

    • @drhkleinert8241
      @drhkleinert8241 2 роки тому +1

      @@clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 Not Poppy...??

    • @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710
      @clutchpedalreturnsprg7710 2 роки тому

      @@drhkleinert8241 lol

  • @SirMoeThe2nd
    @SirMoeThe2nd 2 роки тому +2

    I love the Pawn Shop owner, (played by guitarist Bo Diddley.) "BURNT MY FINGERS, MAN." And that face when he's counting the money 😂😂😂

  • @ksharbaugh2
    @ksharbaugh2 2 роки тому +3

    Fascinating bit of film trivia: After having worked with Eddie Murphy in this movie, Dan Aykroyd suggested him for the role of Winston in "Ghostbusters", but he was already too tied up with work on "Beverly Hills Cop".

  • @RoundingThird
    @RoundingThird 2 роки тому +2

    Dan Aykroyd might be a ghostbuster to you but he'll always be Dr. Detroit to me.

  • @slayorekim
    @slayorekim 2 роки тому +5

    You are nailing my favorite movies left and right!! Lethal Weapon and now Trading Places!!! I love your take on these movies! It allows me to see these awesome flicks from a different point of view. Thank you for that. Keep'em coming please!!!

  • @markoconnor995
    @markoconnor995 2 роки тому

    Thanks!

  • @rccraig7580
    @rccraig7580 2 роки тому +3

    Also Clarence Beeks ( portrayed by the late Paul Gleason ) was also the the inept police chief in Die Hard and the policeman examining the bag of drugs is Frank Oz also known as the voice of Yoda and Miss Piggy.

    • @drhkleinert8241
      @drhkleinert8241 2 роки тому +1

      Thanks Craig, i watch Die Hard two days ago and allways thought "i KNOW that guy, but..." now i know. Slimy Beeks and Slimy Police Chief...

  • @Trifler500
    @Trifler500 2 роки тому +1

    Since you liked this movie, you'd probably like Beverly Hills Cop. :)
    Another movie from this time period was Brewster's Millions, a 1985 comedy about a man who is left 300 million, with a catch. In order to qualify, he has to spend $30 million in 30 days. Every... last... penny... He also can't tell anyone why he's doing it. If he fails, the $300 million goes to charity instead. It stars Richard Pryor and John Candy.

  • @McPh1741
    @McPh1741 2 роки тому +7

    Another good polar opposite buddy movie is “See No Evil Hear No Evil” starring Gene Wilder and Richard Prior. One is deaf and other is blind. They have to work together to keep from getting framed for murder.

  • @visionaryventures12
    @visionaryventures12 2 роки тому +2

    Until the past 20 years, Eddie Murphy was known for playing clever, wise/cracking characters like this. This movie has two characters who then appear in Eddie Murphy’s movie Coming to America.

  • @mwflanagan1
    @mwflanagan1 2 роки тому +4

    I spotted Stephen Stucker in the train scene for the first time. He played Johnny in Airplane! First time I’ve seen him anywhere other than Airplane! Thanks for reacting to this film, Cassie. Merry Christmas to you and yours.

    • @robby1816
      @robby1816 2 роки тому +1

      I also.
      I had to look up the cast of Airplane to get the actor's name... and I read of his early demise. (RIP Johnny)

  • @fernandomendez2709
    @fernandomendez2709 2 роки тому +1

    The butler is the actor who played marcus brody in the indiana jones movies

  • @juggernautomnimedia1038
    @juggernautomnimedia1038 2 роки тому +5

    Eddie owned the early eighties. From SNL to 48 Hrs to Trading Places to Delirious to Beverly Hills Cop to Coming To America he was the undisputed comic genius of his era.

    • @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy
      @ComeOnIsSuchAJoy 2 роки тому

      Too bad that, like Chevy Chase, he kind of stopped being funny when the '80s ended (except when playing Donkey). 😕

    • @Gameflyer001
      @Gameflyer001 2 роки тому

      @@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy He was still good in The Nutty Professor.

    • @jasperdevries1726
      @jasperdevries1726 13 годин тому

      @@ComeOnIsSuchAJoy I'll take a Boomerang and Distinguished Gentleman over Best Defense. Although that one really wasn't his fault to be fair.

  • @williamjones6031
    @williamjones6031 2 роки тому +1

    1. Aykroyd made his bones (as did Murphy) first on the original the the next generation (but still funny) Saturday Night Live.
    2. Aykroyd also worked with John Belusi in the Blues Brothers.
    3. Beeks is played by the late Paul Gleason. He also played Richard/Dick Vernon in "The Breakfast Club" and the idiot deputy police chief in "Die Hard".
    4. The police officer that tells Louis the powder is PCP is Frank Oz the voice for Kirmit, Yoda and many of the Muppets.
    5. The studio didn't want Jamie Lee Curtis for the roll of Olivia because they only saw her as a scream queen, but Landis insisted on casting her. Good for us.
    5. I like how sympathetic Coleman is to Billy Ray. You can tell early on that he has no love for the Dukes.
    6. In the restaurant when Billy Ray is about to speak it's a play on the old EF Hutton commercial. "When EF Hutton speaks everybody listens"
    7. One of the most paused scenes in VHS history.😍🥰🤩 (JLC)
    8. I wonder where Winthorp got all those drugs (and the gun) for only $50 Even in 1983.
    9. When Don Ameche says "Fuck him" regarding his brother he insisted that they use only one take because of his religious convictions he didn't want to swear at all. He also had an issue with the N word too.

  • @jeannieschmidt2217
    @jeannieschmidt2217 2 роки тому +5

    One of my favourite holiday movies - though wildly inappropriate. Eddie is even MORE charming in Beverly Hills Cop - it's a MUST watch. Merry Christmas and cheers from Canada!

  • @tommyhemlock7915
    @tommyhemlock7915 2 роки тому +2

    “Mother always said you were greedy”.
    “She meant it as a compliment”.
    Starmer and Waldorf were the two old guys from the Muppets

  • @Phi1618033
    @Phi1618033 2 роки тому +5

    This film is part of what I call the Eddie Murphy Trilogy of _48hrs, Trading Places_ and _Beverly Hills Cop._ Everyone, at some point, must watch these three Eddie Murphy films.

  • @TampaCEO
    @TampaCEO 2 роки тому +1

    18:58 - "Winthorpe and Valentine need to team up." Wow! You definitely called that one. 🙂

  • @goyasolidar
    @goyasolidar 2 роки тому +5

    Merry New Year!

  • @JGComments
    @JGComments 2 роки тому +2

    The trading pit scene is just like my love life: lots of screaming, it’s over quickly, and you’re homeless at the end.

  • @jeffshirton7234
    @jeffshirton7234 2 роки тому +9

    I don't know if you take requests out of Patreon, but Aykroyd has done some great dramatic acting. "Driving Miss Daisy" is an amazing movie (starring Morgan Freeman), and Dan was also in a Canadian docudrama called "The Arrow", which is about the true story of Canada's development of its first supersonic fighter jet the Avro Arrow back in the 1950's. Greetings from Toronto!!
    P.S. The guy in the gorilla suit is Jim Belushi, John's younger brother.

    • @frzstat
      @frzstat 2 роки тому

      Aykroyd was a great addition to Driving Miss Daisy, definitely a movie Cassie should see.

    • @chrisgilbert9076
      @chrisgilbert9076 2 роки тому +1

      I second the nomination for Driving Miss Daisy. Funny, dramatic and heartwarming. There as been criticism about the depiction of Hoke's relationship to Miss Daisy's as being a little too subservient, but I think it is well worth a watch. A fine performance from Morgan Freeman (does he ever have poor performances?), Jessica Tandy and (though small) Dan Ackroyd too.

    • @vladtepes97
      @vladtepes97 2 роки тому

      the guy in the other gorilla suit was Don McLeod, who played a gorilla in some commercials for durable luggage.

  • @RetroClassic66
    @RetroClassic66 2 роки тому +1

    0:46 THE SHOP AROUND THE CORNER (1940) is the film that was later remade as YOU’VE GOT MAIL (1998)

  • @jjmalaprop9968
    @jjmalaprop9968 2 роки тому +7

    For a good portion of my life, Trading Places was the movie I had watched the most number of times

  • @willthornsbury2913
    @willthornsbury2913 2 роки тому +1

    The cop who said "Billy Ray Valentine" at the beginning, when he was in the cell, is the dad from the original 90210.

  • @stathissdz2125
    @stathissdz2125 2 роки тому +3

    The year after this movie, Don Ameche (Mortimer Duke) played in "Cocoon", and won the Oscar for his performance.

    • @bobbuethe1477
      @bobbuethe1477 2 роки тому +1

      Don Ameche and Francis Langford also had a long-running radio series, "The Bickersons," about a couple who were always arguing. It was a major inspiration for the comic strip, "The Lockhorns."

  • @Fangtorn
    @Fangtorn 2 роки тому +1

    7:48 It's funny, to the left of Eddie is a young Gus Fring, Giancarlo Eposito in one of his earliest roles. I love spotting famous faces in the background of old movies.

  • @joshgellis3292
    @joshgellis3292 2 роки тому +1

    When Eddie Murphy made this blockbuster alongside Akroyd, he *_still_* had his SNL contract for at least another half year! ALL the better, because he was saving SNL before noticing that he was. lol.

  • @IamRogue22
    @IamRogue22 2 роки тому +4

    This is one of the Greatest Comedy’s ever put to film. The story, the humor, the actors are all stellar. It’s interesting you’d make a reference to The Muppet Show and the resemblance the the two puppets because this movie has one of greatest voice actor’s of all time in a bit part (dirty cop at the Philly jail that planted Drugs) Mr. Frank Oz; voice of Fozzy Bear, Ms. Piggy, and my personal favorite: Yoda from Star Wars. Also, the young brotha that was in Jail with Eddie was character actor of great renown which starred in Multiple Spike Lee films, The Usual Suspects and was the Character “Gus” from Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul (Add Em’ to the List please!!, you’ll luv em!) huge fan of your smile, laughter and looks of horror keep up the great work! Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!🎉

    • @frzstat
      @frzstat 2 роки тому +1

      Frank Oz has a great scene in The Blues Brothers also. Aykroyd starred in this too. Both movies directed by John Landis and are hilarious!

    • @IamRogue22
      @IamRogue22 2 роки тому +1

      Also Sir, he was also in the greatest ( my opinion) horror movie of all time, An American Werewolf In London. Nuthin’ but net man!

    • @drhkleinert8241
      @drhkleinert8241 2 роки тому +1

      @@frzstat In fact, he has nearly the SAME scene in both movies...BB he talks to Belushi, TP he talks to Aykroyd...

  • @waynejones5635
    @waynejones5635 2 роки тому +1

    This is one of my favorite movies. It is a Christmas movie to me, because it is a tradition for me to watch it. In the 80's the laughs ruled the day.
    "One gorilla .. two gorilla.... They're in love." 🤣🤣
    In the old days exchanges operated in what they call 'the open cry market' system, where licenced brokers traded in 'the pits' / exchange floors, face to face. Today it is almost all done by computers. 🤑
    Since Billy Ray and Louis had the inside information and they gave wrong information off to the Dukes .. they allowed the Dukes to do the wrong thing and buy Orange Juice futures thinking there was to be a poor Orange Juice crop report which pushed up the price. Then Billy Ray and Louis began to sell a bunch of contracts at the high price .. then once the Orange Juice crop report came out, and people knew there was going to be plenty and oranges everyone wanted to sell their orange juice contracts which pushed down the price .. allowing Louis and Billy Ray to buy back contracts at a deeply discounted price and make a bundle of money.
    Of course once again people use computers today instead of carrying paper files of information, so this likely would not happen now a days.

  • @rosario508
    @rosario508 2 роки тому +7

    “Coleman I had the most absurd nightmare. I was poor and no one liked me. I lost my job I lost my friends. Penelope hated me. And it was all because of this terrible awful negro”

    • @English_MoFo
      @English_MoFo 2 роки тому +3

      It...was...the...Dukes

    • @goyasolidar
      @goyasolidar 2 роки тому

      If this film were made today, some people would be going apeshit.

  • @russb24
    @russb24 2 роки тому +1

    My wife and I always quote the "looking good... feeling good" line. I'm pretty sure it comes from this, or at least wasn't well known before.