With atlas tree set up there is extra monsters, extra magic, and importanly 75% increase xp. Used juiced abys with 20% delirium to lvl to 99 pretty efficient. Could get from 99 to 100 in less than 50 maps, but so much easier to get carried.
Holy mother of god, that's CRAZY efficiency! Great strat to keep in mind for league start, especially for those that can grab caster mastery to open abyss chests easily.
The RoI of a strat is heavily correlated with the initial investment. High investment strats will always have much lower RoI than low investment strategies. I mean the conclusion is obvious - an alch and go strategy has infinite RoI since the investment is 0. RoI is a largely meaningless metric to try and optimise. Calling a strategy "efficient" because it has a high RoI is a bit disingenuous. My essence farming strategy spends 10c per map to get an average of 1 divine out of it, should I call it an ultra efficient strategy because of that 15x RoI? No, it's worse than using a scarab of calcification and running lots of rares, even though the RoI is lower, because the div/h is higher. Div/h, ease of replication and downtime/sell time/buy time for materials are ultimately the only things that matter for a strategy, other than emotional things like "fun" :)
That's true, but the point here is that Abyss is surprisingly profitable despite the items it uniquely generates not being that valuable, and that this strategy can convert 5c of scarab investment per map into over 1 div of profit. That's appealing for a lot of players. Poorer/newer ones, for sure, but newer players are generally the people most in need of guides.
A good example is Harvest using a rotation strategy with the Awakening Scarab. Right now, it's quite costly, and you can only turn a profit if you gather 10-15k yellow lifeforce per map.
This is what ive been doing for a month +. Safest for leveling with a geadhunter too. I vary the scarabs but ive mostly been doing the 2 abyss, 1 edifice. 1 cart of corruption and 1 esxalation. I got a lot of t17s. At least 1 every other map not to mention good gold and loot. It is slower but rewarding.
I think you're missing out (even late league) by not getting the 6-mod abyss jewels. Lots of players min/maxing end up crafting gear with abyss jewel slots using recombinator and then fracturing it, because an abyss jewel is better than a normal suffix for a lot of builds. As a result, a really good 6-mod jewel can be worth quite a lot of currency. I've sold multiples for 10div+ and one for 40div. It's not uncommon to find ones worth 50c-1div as well. It's not that many points to grab that node so I think it's worth it (and it just adds a nice little jackpot potential). This strat works much better on casters due to the caster mastery that auto opens chests. It's also quite good in T17s when you have increased currency scaling on the map, because the hoards just drop a ton of currency normally, but it really scales up with the T17 mods. If you want to have a lot of fun, you can use horned scarab of nemeses combined with horned scarab of tradition. This combination has a lot of synergy with abyss. It's not great late-league, but early-league you get tons of 6-links and fractured items. It's a lot of fun to mess around with though because you get some very novel loot explosions.
@@PathofEvening It does take a little time but you can always just do a dump tab and decrease the price each day, starting out at 5 div or so. To be fair, I do actually end up individually looking at them because I find it fun to identify them, and this does slow me down! But it's fun for me.
I kind of agree with other comments that say’s your video takes too long and kind of a bait. I don’t want to be rude but they are kind of true. Your title says “the most efficient” then suddenly you tell a disclaimer “I think, the most”. You were used to being informative with your contents and getting desperate lately to get more views/watch hours.
I tried Abyss in previous League. Originally wanted to run 20 maps for challenge and to see how it will turn out. I abandoned it as soon as I finished challenge in up to 5-7 maps. It was both unfun AND unrearding (and I not just mean it was fine, just not as insane as top strategies, it was just bad). :|
It's definitely an RNG strat, so you will have to commit to it for a while to really see a good result. It's not really that different from alch-and-go, it just adds very cheap, generic juice onto a map.
Hey. Does the map density somehow interacts with abyss? I wanna try this on Strand map and it says strand map has 0 mob density,also i have Unrequired Love card scryed there (dont ask why lol) And then i was wondering if i just click Quant altar after i see i see it and not after i clear full map to stack them and then run the abysses,how bad can it impact on the drops? As always great video!
It will definitely work on Strand! Map density doesn't have a huge impact, but the shape of a map can cause some mechanics to not spawn if you try to cram too many in at once. That's a hard limit to hit and it's more of a concern on a map like Jungle Valley than Strand.
Abyss is going to suck if you can't maintain at least 50% total movement speed, preferably 75%. The back tracking will take too long. Highly recommend Coral ruins map. Its open, has the largest natural pack size of all maps. The open size makes the abysses unlikely to cross over each other which kills the abyss node you're following. Monstrous lineage+2 abyss multitudes+1 abyss profound depth+1 abyss scarab+abyss on the map device. Cheapest 100 grind. Also very profitable because of how cheap it is, scales extremely well with item quantity/rarity/mf gear. I run with all atlas nodes that give more abysses and packs from abyss. Also running delirium unending nightmare and beyond so the backtracking isn't so bad. Slap on a pair of corrupt slitherpinch gauntlets+fit in Chance To flee into you build and go for an Anglers plait. Fishing ring that is priceless, a collectors item. It is a rare mob drop and abyss is the cheapest rare mob farming for longer grinds.
Unplayable without caster mastery to open the chests. I tried the strat which uses glittering hoards to pump the boss full of div cards, but got nothing out of it.
Can someone tell me what the purple bubble around your character is, please ? I'm new player in Poe and I'd like the same for my character :) Thank you !
I was thinking today about a way to start farming for the next league and then it hit me... we're just like hamsters doing the same thing over and over again XD How many times will I keep farming magebloods, nimis and everything else? :c
@@notlabrador ooh nice catch. my strat is just putting as much increased effect of explicit modifiers as i can, and destructive play, as bosses have the highest chance to drop tier 17s.
It is good, i always go back to it when I get bad rng from long runs with other straps. Most consistent so far..lots of t17s and some other high value items consistently. I do this and generally something like mob juicing/beasts for speed...
@@fluffypenguin3424 There isn’t a “farming strat” that can an consistently make 50 Divs an hour other getting jackpot drops from Strongboxes or Rogue Exiles. (which is not a “farming strat” because you’re just hoping to get lucky) Another way is by Crafting for BIS items for popular builds like certain Jewels, Armours or Weapons which costs 100-400+ Divines to make, depending on the item.
Glad to know you are safe
Thank you!
With atlas tree set up there is extra monsters, extra magic, and importanly 75% increase xp. Used juiced abys with 20% delirium to lvl to 99 pretty efficient. Could get from 99 to 100 in less than 50 maps, but so much easier to get carried.
True, adding in Deli is a good option for more juice.
Holy mother of god, that's CRAZY efficiency!
Great strat to keep in mind for league start, especially for those that can grab caster mastery to open abyss chests easily.
True, the Caster Mastery works reeeeeally well.
for spell builds you can take the caster mastery that has a chance to open chests on spell cast. saves a lot of clicking.
True, good call!
The RoI of a strat is heavily correlated with the initial investment. High investment strats will always have much lower RoI than low investment strategies.
I mean the conclusion is obvious - an alch and go strategy has infinite RoI since the investment is 0.
RoI is a largely meaningless metric to try and optimise. Calling a strategy "efficient" because it has a high RoI is a bit disingenuous.
My essence farming strategy spends 10c per map to get an average of 1 divine out of it, should I call it an ultra efficient strategy because of that 15x RoI? No, it's worse than using a scarab of calcification and running lots of rares, even though the RoI is lower, because the div/h is higher.
Div/h, ease of replication and downtime/sell time/buy time for materials are ultimately the only things that matter for a strategy, other than emotional things like "fun" :)
That's true, but the point here is that Abyss is surprisingly profitable despite the items it uniquely generates not being that valuable, and that this strategy can convert 5c of scarab investment per map into over 1 div of profit. That's appealing for a lot of players. Poorer/newer ones, for sure, but newer players are generally the people most in need of guides.
A good example is Harvest using a rotation strategy with the Awakening Scarab. Right now, it's quite costly, and you can only turn a profit if you gather 10-15k yellow lifeforce per map.
Hoping you have better luck with your irl "drops". This hurricane season has been rough!
Thank you, it really has!
This is what ive been doing for a month +. Safest for leveling with a geadhunter too. I vary the scarabs but ive mostly been doing the 2 abyss, 1 edifice. 1 cart of corruption and 1 esxalation. I got a lot of t17s. At least 1 every other map not to mention good gold and loot. It is slower but rewarding.
Yeah, that's pretty good!
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I think you're missing out (even late league) by not getting the 6-mod abyss jewels. Lots of players min/maxing end up crafting gear with abyss jewel slots using recombinator and then fracturing it, because an abyss jewel is better than a normal suffix for a lot of builds. As a result, a really good 6-mod jewel can be worth quite a lot of currency. I've sold multiples for 10div+ and one for 40div. It's not uncommon to find ones worth 50c-1div as well. It's not that many points to grab that node so I think it's worth it (and it just adds a nice little jackpot potential).
This strat works much better on casters due to the caster mastery that auto opens chests. It's also quite good in T17s when you have increased currency scaling on the map, because the hoards just drop a ton of currency normally, but it really scales up with the T17 mods. If you want to have a lot of fun, you can use horned scarab of nemeses combined with horned scarab of tradition. This combination has a lot of synergy with abyss. It's not great late-league, but early-league you get tons of 6-links and fractured items. It's a lot of fun to mess around with though because you get some very novel loot explosions.
That's true, but sorting through and quantifying those jewels will be RNG and time-consuming. Definitely a good option for an extra gamble!
@@PathofEvening It does take a little time but you can always just do a dump tab and decrease the price each day, starting out at 5 div or so. To be fair, I do actually end up individually looking at them because I find it fun to identify them, and this does slow me down! But it's fun for me.
hope the cheese wasnt affected this time
The cheese was kept safe in coolers!
I kind of agree with other comments that say’s your video takes too long and kind of a bait. I don’t want to be rude but they are kind of true. Your title says “the most efficient” then suddenly you tell a disclaimer “I think, the most”. You were used to being informative with your contents and getting desperate lately to get more views/watch hours.
It's not bait, but if you don't like it, saying nothing/being nice is free.
I tried Abyss in previous League. Originally wanted to run 20 maps for challenge and to see how it will turn out. I abandoned it as soon as I finished challenge in up to 5-7 maps. It was both unfun AND unrearding (and I not just mean it was fine, just not as insane as top strategies, it was just bad). :|
It's definitely an RNG strat, so you will have to commit to it for a while to really see a good result. It's not really that different from alch-and-go, it just adds very cheap, generic juice onto a map.
I remember using it in the previous league (or was it Standard?) and had nice results, just clicking hoards was annoying
Yup!
Hey. Does the map density somehow interacts with abyss? I wanna try this on Strand map and it says strand map has 0 mob density,also i have Unrequired Love card scryed there (dont ask why lol) And then i was wondering if i just click Quant altar after i see i see it and not after i clear full map to stack them and then run the abysses,how bad can it impact on the drops? As always great video!
It will definitely work on Strand! Map density doesn't have a huge impact, but the shape of a map can cause some mechanics to not spawn if you try to cram too many in at once. That's a hard limit to hit and it's more of a concern on a map like Jungle Valley than Strand.
how to make the effects smoothly and get this lines above your head?
@@nekitdragon1365 the lines above the head are health and mana, you can find it in the UI settings
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Abyss is going to suck if you can't maintain at least 50% total movement speed, preferably 75%. The back tracking will take too long.
Highly recommend Coral ruins map. Its open, has the largest natural pack size of all maps. The open size makes the abysses unlikely to cross over each other which kills the abyss node you're following. Monstrous lineage+2 abyss multitudes+1 abyss profound depth+1 abyss scarab+abyss on the map device. Cheapest 100 grind. Also very profitable because of how cheap it is, scales extremely well with item quantity/rarity/mf gear. I run with all atlas nodes that give more abysses and packs from abyss. Also running delirium unending nightmare and beyond so the backtracking isn't so bad.
Slap on a pair of corrupt slitherpinch gauntlets+fit in Chance To flee into you build and go for an Anglers plait. Fishing ring that is priceless, a collectors item. It is a rare mob drop and abyss is the cheapest rare mob farming for longer grinds.
Yeah, there's definitely a ton of movement required with Abyss.
Unplayable without caster mastery to open the chests. I tried the strat which uses glittering hoards to pump the boss full of div cards, but got nothing out of it.
Yeah, kinda true.
Hoards should drop loot when you walk over them...
That would be better!
Can someone tell me what the purple bubble around your character is, please ?
I'm new player in Poe and I'd like the same for my character :)
Thank you !
Reinforced Amethyst Flask MTX!
@@PathofEvening Thanks :)
I was thinking today about a way to start farming for the next league and then it hit me... we're just like hamsters doing the same thing over and over again XD How many times will I keep farming magebloods, nimis and everything else? :c
That's right! 🐹
I thought power outages only occur in 3rd world country like mine.
They happen everywhere, especially with bad weather.
Why not rogue exiles?
Just doing something different!
I still dont know what you get out of it...just scarabs and random mini jackpots? I rather just do harbingers for scarabs, no?
Pretty much. This is just a cheaper alternative that spawns more monsters.
@@PathofEvening Makes sense. And its probably cheaper, harbingers were expensive at some point, abyss is pretty cheap most of the time.
shaping of the mountains doesnt yield more tier 17 maps, only t16 or lower.
@@nyutrig More tier 16s dropped means that you have a better chance of at least one of them converting to tier 17.
@@notlabrador ooh nice catch.
my strat is just putting as much increased effect of explicit modifiers as i can, and destructive play, as bosses have the highest chance to drop tier 17s.
It does increase t17's via the map equity system.
wtf is a llarold lol
A regular dude.
E tier strat
E for Efficiency!
E? More close to Y or Z
This strat is bait, make some good farming strats
It is good, i always go back to it when I get bad rng from long runs with other straps. Most consistent so far..lots of t17s and some other high value items consistently. I do this and generally something like mob juicing/beasts for speed...
We're looking forward to your farming strat video.
Sure, I like your videos and everything. But dude, your video is some 15 minutes longer than it needed to be. Sorry
Play it faster, use fast forward... the tools are right there.
TOO MUCH TALKING
This strat is bait…. Make some videos that can farm 50d/h
@@fluffypenguin3424 There isn’t a “farming strat” that can an consistently make 50 Divs an hour other getting jackpot drops from Strongboxes or Rogue Exiles. (which is not a “farming strat” because you’re just hoping to get lucky)
Another way is by Crafting for BIS items for popular builds like certain Jewels, Armours or Weapons which costs 100-400+ Divines to make, depending on the item.
Too bad
I would anticipate more and stronger hurricanes in the future, plan accordingly
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