Shanell was a pop star on a rap label. They didn’t brand her correctly, nor did they put the right focus into her. The fact that she can sing, they never used her for hooks. It was horrible marketing on Young Money’s end. She deserves so much more. A talented singer, songwriter, AND she can dance her ASS off!
@@EricaAsjaee Prom Queen and Running are on the same project, Rebirth. A concept Shanell came up with. Rebirth doesn’t count. I’m speaking on the OTHER artist that had singable hooks that she could’ve sang on for more exposure and push. 3 songs?? 3 songs that’s all they give her?
@@MarjorieStewartBaxter A mixtape song. Y’all are missing the point. Like it’s completely going over y’all head. 😂 She never got to do a hook on a Drake record, never got a hook on an OFFICIAL Nicki Minaj song. Tyga, no. She didn’t get used when she should have. Drake didn’t have to sing everything. Nicki who can’t even sing was on more singing hooks than Shanell.
Say what you want about tyga but you gotta add him with drake & nicki even though he didn’t sell as many records as them he definitely brought the hits like they did
@@fartunyep4501Because he preyed on a MINOR. I don't care if you like Kylie Jenner or not, but Tyga going after a child to sexually prey on is SICK 🤢🤮
Drake and Nicki had that star power and I think that’s why they essentially became the face of Young Money. That was such a fun era and it brings back so many memories 🥹
Cash Money was basically the Bad Boy and Death Row of the 2000s where unlike in Bad Boy where someone gets killed or in jail, it was very similar to Death Row as you hear their most successful acts all the time on the radio like Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, and Drake. The only similarities between Bad Boy, Death Row, and Cash Money were the executives were grimy. I mentioned in your Bad Boy video that all record executives are grimy individuals. Suge Knight is in prison while Puffy and Birdman are free but are constantly side-eyed for their actions and rightly so.
It seems like with all these artist labels only 3 can go. MMG(Ross, meek, wale), rocafella(jay, beanie, freeway), dipset(cam, juelZ, Jim) even good music( Kanye, Pusha, big Sean) idk it’s weird that it always seems that’s way
I always find it so weird they sign a artist they've yet to show them or don't market em correctly. Why 🤔🤔🤔...?? Jaysean was literally 🔥..!! Jaysean songz were great & still are. Especially Ride it & Down...!!
@@michaelmentality: I think Jaysean should go independent & still sing ( if he isn't Independent already) cuz his songz were so great to listen to. They're sooooo catchy & the beats are 🔥🔥.
In general in music, signing under another artist who is big is not a good idea because they will never allow you to surpass them. That's why the Weeknd did not sign with OVO because he believed he could be bigger on his own and he was right.
Drake and Nicki is what blew young money up in the first place! No one really would have cared about Bed Rock if it was all the other crew members on that song lmbooo I still know drake and nicki's verses by heart till this day 🤷🏾♀️❤️
If I remember correctly, Lil Wayne was getting frustrated with Birdman and Cash Money, and he was going to be the last to leave and sign to Jay Z's Roc-A-Fella Records. Birdman stopped that by giving Wayne the President of Cash Money role, and have him create a label. That's how Young Money happened. Anyone remember when he had the Squad Up mixtapes?
Lil Twist and Lil Chuckee definitely deserved more hype considering that they became popular around the Mindless Behavior, OMG GIRLZ and Jacob Latimore era
Yeah that was they era to shine but they never really caught on like them even Diggy Simmons, Jacob Latimore were pretty successful in that teen rap/rnb era.
I feel wayne had 2 much on his plate then. Drake n nicki had a buzz already. J sean could’ve been a pop star if marketed right..chanelle shouldve been on more songs (i dont think she was on the album) twist n chuck could’ve definitely came out when all the kid rappers were out. Tyga was in his own lane too and he still doing good. But everybody else was happy to be around wayne to the point where they dont have shit to show for it now.
I literally revisited Lil Twist’s discog on Spotify and I was in disbelief that he didn’t have what Diggy Simmons, Mindless Behavior, Jacob Latimore and them had!!! THEY DID HIM WRONG FR!!!
Great video. The best thing Currensy ever did in his career was jump off the Young Money bandwagon early. He saw the writing on the wall when Nicki and Drake came on board. The man has had nothing but independent success ever since.
@@NeverDial911 Curren$y was never going to be as big as Drake or Nicki. I'm sure if you asked him, he would tell you the same, which is why he left in the first place. The machine wouldn't know how to market him better than he could market himself.
@@rodneyscott5450 Good catch. But my point still stands. He knew he would be just another nigga in the background on a vanity label oversaturated with background niggas.
@@Fuckauf people thought Nicki and him were together and that never hurt her career if anything it Gave us some to talk about. They were definitely hating on her and in their interviews they talk about people being placed above them n being jealous. MissWomanEmpowerment surely put her head down when Wayne was calling Shannel his Grammy 🤔
@@Fuckauf my point still stands, we thought they were dating. He spoke highly of Nicki and we loved it. There should’ve been no reason the whole label had a problem with Shannel because she was dating the CEO. But when you find o it how jealous they were of eachother it makes sense !
Birdman, Puff, & Jay-Z all need to be imprisoned for preying on minors and I'm disgusted they're still given a "pass" in the Black community & by the FBI who should have locked them up years ago!!!
also the distribution and unbrella labels like universal, columbia, rca etc. its a ponzi scheme. You have to sign people to move forward and the same things happen.
🤣 the police and government don’t play fair. If they figure they can get more out of you by blackmail. You don’t think they will do it? And I do agree that we shouldn’t give these people a pass
Basically, Drake and Nicki Minaj had that megastar power and they became the face of Young Money. Drake had released a lot of albums and soon left the label to start his own label, OVO Sound. They really have die hard fans who enjoy their music. Lil’ Wayne was the most popular rapper in the game at that time.
Curren$y went through No Limit Records, Cash Money Records, and Young Money, and still did very well for himself. When he left YM, he went on a crazy streak with mixtapes.
They probably did that because they already had devoted fan bases before signing and co signs from established rappers like Nicki and jadakiss. Also the both of them had already been associated with Wayne before the other rappers of their time were signed to them. Nicki had known wayne for two years before signing to him and had already him on all three of her mixtapes more then once. Also they kept gaining attention and it didn’t die down shortly after 2009
people disagree about how much work they did - everyone tends to overestimate how much they did, and downplays what others did - and then you can start to argue over how much that work is worth. it's hugely difficult, and it is why people hire lawyers and other agents to negotiate compensation deals.
my theory is the label was a front to move money around and thats why they "signed" so many artist they had no plans on really pushing. Remember these artist backgrounds and how they got money to start their labels...
She still makes music. I believe she had lives in Nashville where she releases her own music independently. She did recently announce a new song and new tour. I think her last song was "FCKN IN LOVE" released last year
@@sadejordan1812Omarion singing to MMG was a good move because Ross pushed him and he went platinum. Omarion thought he could do it on his own and flopped the same as meek and Wale . Rick Ross use to pick their singles and advise them on how to move and they were successful but they looked at it like controlling .
To be honest nicki almost flopped Her first single massive attack flopped badly thank god a dj leaked "your love" nicki hated that song at first but that song took off and super bass made her a international star
@@angelaburress8586He sold all the feats they did with other artist not their actual solo releases also Drake worth over 300 million and Nicki with over 200 million so yeah they have money
Wayne really wanted to help them all but the two that were more widely received by the fans because of presentation was drake and nicki . The others like tyga & jay sean had to do things on their own and that was a blessing for them .
I actually like the interviews because I really don't wanna go watch the whole thing myself for one, and also it puts a lot of validity to her point she's making. I do agree they interviews could be a bit shorter or clipped.
Fun Facts:: hot boys broke up it was due too financial mismanagement.& everyone left cash money besides Wayne. Also Juve left due to contract disputes & missing royalties. Manny Fresh whom was the producer & 1 half of duo Big Tymers he also left cash money due to financial reasons. So right there thats all you need to know about Birdman or should i say Baby. & I also think he groomed Wayne. They was always kissing on the lips & when caught "thats my son" but yet theres an interview where him & wanye were on 106 & park & they asked baby a question about kissing girls & as birdman tryna answer wanye speaks over him "im the only one he kisses" thats sus 🧐👀 Edit: Thankk you guys for all the likes!! I just wanted to add that in no way shape or form am I against being gay...What I am against is the "grooming" & "dishonesty" & the secrets of the industry acting like they Victoria.. she's the only one that's allowed secrets.
Being from New Orleans, alot of old heads will tell you that Birdman ALWAYS been sketch and alot of people been calling him out for his grooming of minors
Don’t forget Wayne had to sue Birdman for his money because he wasn’t getting paid. This happened years ago. He got his catalog back, but then sold Nicki Minaj, Drakes, and his catalog for $300-500k, i believe. If it were last than that, he was lowballed.
You did some good research, I’m from New Orleans …you was spot on with some of the earlier stuff because a lot of people get that wrong from their local days
If I’m Shanell, and I signed to two major artist prior to YMCM Records, there’s no way I’m signing to a third artist. I would learn all I needed to know from the first experience, def would’ve stayed solo and independent. I’ve never heard anyone signed to these recording labels saying there were happy, and satisfied plus they last years on the label. It’s always short-lived.
Being independent is also extremely hard especially back then when most people that were successful were still from non-independent record labels. Nicki and Drake both did benefit from record labels. Nicki even did the unprecedented and avoided a 360 deal. Shanell needed to at LEAST get on the RIGHT label with the RIGHT deal. She was a pop star on a rap label with crazy vocals and moves, but that label didn't even bother to at least put her on some hooks for songs to take advantage. Shame.
Real forgiveness is for you. Takes the burden of their consequences off your heart. You do it because we are all sinners saved by grace. Does not mean you open the door for them to keep violating you. Because the moment you do...they will nail you as they been doing.
The truth is, those acts outside of Drake, and Nicki, couldn’t produce a hit on their own without a feature from the big 3. The big 3(Drake, Nicki, Wayne) created their own lane/wave, while the rest were riding a wave sounding like every generic trend in that era. Tyga was never looked at like a YM artist, he was his own brand.. he just didn’t fit in. Drake, and Nicki, were superstars- so they get priority regardless of what’s going on.. I’m sure everyone else was mad, and probably started acting out- even to the point they felt the label were to blame for them not being stars.. the truth? Who’s made a legacy, and who isn’t relevant?
I would also like to add that Tyga, Drake, and Nicki were bound to make it because they had a following/ buzz before they signed to Young Money. Their work ethic was strong.
I feel like it’s easy to blame it on lack of promotion instead of your music just not being accepted by the masses. Drake and Nicki had the same amount of promotion but they just have that something special that made them widely popular.
The reason behind Curren$y’s (Spitta) departure has actually come out. His contract was terminated due to the fact that the label wouldn’t have been able to recoup. Spitta lost a lot of his belongings in Katrina and Wayne knew that his artist getting his life together would probably be the better move so he dropped him. Some of those details could be slightly off, but overall it was because of Katrina and that’s why Spitta has never spoken ill of Wayne.
This was so good!💖 Would love to see a video on Nicki’s label, I don’t really understand what she’s been doing regarding the competitions and artist she’s claimed to sign?
LIL WAYNE WAS LIFE IN HS!!!!! I’ll hear “Stunting Like My Daddy” and immediately I’m right back there. So talented and so underrated. Wayne doesn’t get ENOUGH praise! Him and Eminem are up there w Pac for me. Pac is king but these 2 are phenomenal.
When I was 17 and 18...nothing was playing in my car other than Young Money. I LOVED that Ms. Parker song...I also played that Chris Brown song "follow me like Twitter" and the "shoes" song. Anyone else remember those classics?! The In My Zone mixtape from Chris was a masterpiece to me. Lmao I miss those days so much.
I remember Bow Wow joined Cash Money too back in 09-10' and he was supposed to drop an album called "Underrated" back in 2012 but they kept pushing back his release dates and eventually he got shelved and never released the album and he also tweeted that they wasn't really promoting him as much as Wayne, Drake, Nicki & Tyga...
In 2012-2013 i accidentally found a site talking in great detail how Drake had to take Cash Money to court privately to get paid. and it was settled in his favor. this never hit news back then funnily enough...
I was about to say, that Shanelle had a big song back then called “Impossible” but then I looked it up and it was another chick named “Shontelle” welp! 😂
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾 Prayers out for those who were on the cash money and young money roster 🕊️also those negatively affected from doing business with them 🕊️
I’m still bitter about Shanell. I use to follow her on MySpace before she even signed with YM. She was so good and I was super excited when she signed but they did nothing to build her career.
It'll always astonish me how the biggest rapper in the world is responsible for 2 of the biggest rappers in the world. We'll never see anything like it again.
Wayne struck gold when he, Drake and Nicki got together - but damn I didn’t know any of this. Pusha T said bird man stole royalties and etc. which began the entire issue with drake. It’s unfortunate. Young money is very significant in rap culture. Shady selfish greedy fake people like bird man and the ones that messed them over deserve the worst.
They are asking cause they liked what could have came of her and wanted her to have a chance too. Not everyone is so blunt and rude like you cause lol that last lil comment wasnt needed. alot of singers cant sing live but they can still put on some music with her and she sure can write and put on a show shes talented asf.
Well it's on the internet how to jailbreak electronics and wire tap conversion and how to be an escort. That's the starter pack. You must invade and violate. Or else 😈👽
I fw Curren$y so heavy! Glad he didn’t go through with that deal… Drake and Nicki carried the YM label glad Wayne discovered them.. sad they went through all of this cause Birdman was greedy
Honestly law suits aside, the way lil Wayne used his power to halt the release of lil twist album because he knew twist was going down a bad drug addiction is honestly the most admirable thing. Wayne asked him to stop and get it into check but when he seen twist not taking it seriously he made him take it seriously. I mean probably should have put him in rehab or some sort of professional program but I wish all music labels would do this! Instead of glorifying drugs and the use of them. I will say if I remember correctly Lil Wayne dang near always had his “double cup” in music videos or interviews… always had his blunt lmfao so although that’s admirable and shows Wayne truly cared about his young rappers life. I still think Lil twist music was garbage but hey maybe it’s because I wasn’t as high as him when he was rapping 😮💨
Yeah, I though that definitely showed Lil Wayne’s character in a positive light, but I have to ask myself if lil twist was just following the footsteps of every other adult on the label. Nicki admitted to doing drugs, Wayne definitely was on them, wouldn’t be surprised if most of the label engaged with some substances too.
I’m looking 👀 at that story from different angles, as you mentioned Wayne was always rapping about his lean and weed when in fact he actually doing much harder drugs. Did you hear 👂🏽 Twist saying that he was doing pills 💊 and drugs with his boss and people around him, his boss was Wayne so he kind of low key told us that Wayne was partying right along with him and maybe 🤔 possibly got him on pills! So he seemed like a hypocrite because he couldn’t even get his own sobriety in check especially during the height of young money, do you remember back to back stories of Lil Wayne being in the news for having seizures and it was reported to be caused by his drug use and or lean?! Lil Wayne was having so many seizures that the media even claimed to be worried about him because he was said to have went unconscious on an plane ✈️ ride after having a seizure in the air, they had to do an emergency landing. He ended going to jail for a year for a gun charge in New York back in like 2011 or 2012 and while he was there he gained so much weight he looked healthy again like 2004 The Carter version of himself and got out and started losing weight again and then going bald and having matted looking 👀 dreads that were falling out. He ain’t looked healthy again since that bid. Anyway I also can understand not dropping money on a active user who is hasn’t even dropped their first album and is stupid enough to start getting high and thinking that he should have a budget dropped on him for a project, where they do that at?! Not to mention he went Buck wild and kept getting arrested for dumb stuff. I don’t blame Wayne and his music from the clips here he was trash and the public didn’t really take to him.
Nah for real though wut really did happen to Young Money. They were everywhere at one point and then they just faded. Thank you for making this video. I needed closure on this topic for a long time.
I knew that Cash Money was sued but I didn’t know about Young Money. I just thought the group split up. No wonder Lloyd didn’t sign with them. Also I had a big crush on Lloyd back then.
It seems like with all these artist labels only 3 can go. MMG(Ross, meek, wale), rocafella(jay, beanie, freeway), dipset(cam, juelZ, Jim) even good music( Kanye, Pusha, big Sean) idk it’s weird that it always seems that’s way
It’s like stocks you diversify your portfolio but you put more money into the stocks that are generating the most profit eventually you’ll pull your money out of the stocks that are failing. These artist are not people to them they are products/stocks. And good things come in 3s it’s a known fact but you have to pick the top 3 out the bunch.
Drake and Nicki were like the two popular characters of a tv show and the rest of young money felt like background characters who barely had any lines
I wish Nicki was on more songs on the album and I wish Drake was on another song.
Young money NPCs
Tyga had a buzz
Basically and tyga was like able but wasn’t popping as much as he could
@@GothBattyYou mean " barely" lol
Shanell was a pop star on a rap label. They didn’t brand her correctly, nor did they put the right focus into her. The fact that she can sing, they never used her for hooks. It was horrible marketing on Young Money’s end. She deserves so much more. A talented singer, songwriter, AND she can dance her ASS off!
They did use her for hooks on Wayne’s rock album
They did on like 3 songs . Prom queen , runnin and handstand that’s all
@@EricaAsjaee+ Wayne on Me
@@EricaAsjaee Prom Queen and Running are on the same project, Rebirth. A concept Shanell came up with. Rebirth doesn’t count. I’m speaking on the OTHER artist that had singable hooks that she could’ve sang on for more exposure and push. 3 songs?? 3 songs that’s all they give her?
@@MarjorieStewartBaxter A mixtape song. Y’all are missing the point. Like it’s completely going over y’all head. 😂 She never got to do a hook on a Drake record, never got a hook on an OFFICIAL Nicki Minaj song. Tyga, no. She didn’t get used when she should have. Drake didn’t have to sing everything. Nicki who can’t even sing was on more singing hooks than Shanell.
Say what you want about tyga but you gotta add him with drake & nicki even though he didn’t sell as many records as them he definitely brought the hits like they did
I love tyga idk why people turned on him but now i guess they like him again lol
@@fartunyep4501Ppl stopped liking him once he started dating Kylie Jenner.
@@Nekole1 i mean as a rapper. I dont think those male fans care about kylie back then
@@fartunyep4501Because he preyed on a MINOR. I don't care if you like Kylie Jenner or not, but Tyga going after a child to sexually prey on is SICK 🤢🤮
@@fartunyep4501because of the dating of then 16 year old Kylie Jenner
“Turns out Young Money didn’t have money at all.” 😭 YOURE WRONG FOR THAT
Hilarious 😅😅😅
Birdman has left the chatroom 😂😂💀💀
😂😂😂😂😂
@@TheStreetFoolosopherMr187😂😂😂
Most of these entertainers don't got what they claim they do. It's all for show.
Drake and Nicki had that star power and I think that’s why they essentially became the face of Young Money. That was such a fun era and it brings back so many memories 🥹
I wanna go back so bad
I think it's more like drake and Nicki and their own teams pushing them and other was waiting for Wayne to push them
@@censored817 facts this what i been saying.
@@censored817 This
Facts!
Cash Money was basically the Bad Boy and Death Row of the 2000s where unlike in Bad Boy where someone gets killed or in jail, it was very similar to Death Row as you hear their most successful acts all the time on the radio like Lil Wayne, Nicki Minaj, and Drake. The only similarities between Bad Boy, Death Row, and Cash Money were the executives were grimy. I mentioned in your Bad Boy video that all record executives are grimy individuals. Suge Knight is in prison while Puffy and Birdman are free but are constantly side-eyed for their actions and rightly so.
Thanks for the intel because I was lost
Yes it was
Seem like Birdman mismanage his money just like Suge not paying royalties or paying the producers and writers
It seems like with all these artist labels only 3 can go. MMG(Ross, meek, wale), rocafella(jay, beanie, freeway), dipset(cam, juelZ, Jim) even good music( Kanye, Pusha, big Sean) idk it’s weird that it always seems that’s way
don't forget No Limit Records uhhhhhu
tyga saying "im a man of god" when he was literally in a relationship with a minor (kylie) is wild .
There were old men having children with children all throughout the bible. Girls were considered grown as soon as they started their period.
That pt
Facts
You should learn the word of God before you speak.
@@hsojettedrub3821?? the man got a baby mama, dated a minor and allegedly abused one of his ex gfs… his statement is a little odd.
They dropped the ball with Jay Sean...could have made millions more if they just marketed him properly.
Loved jay sean
he was definitely a pop star on the rise. That song Down still slaps
With twist and chuckee also.
I always find it so weird they sign a artist they've yet to show them or don't market em correctly. Why 🤔🤔🤔...?? Jaysean was literally 🔥..!! Jaysean songz were great & still are. Especially Ride it & Down...!!
@@michaelmentality: I think Jaysean should go independent & still sing ( if he isn't Independent already) cuz his songz were so great to listen to. They're sooooo
catchy & the beats are 🔥🔥.
Young Money ran my playlist in middle school they hold a special place in my heart
Same me & my brother & his homeboys all knew bedrocks verses
Me too ❤
Facts
I'm convinced Gudda Gudda did not take off because of that "grocery bag" bar in BedRock 😂W video
Oh my god. I thought i was the only one when it came out i was like wtf is this line 😂 grocery bag?? Wat lol
Don't forget you see me with her no Stevie wonder lmao
😂😂😂😂😂
RIP ME OUT THE PLASTIC I BEEN ACTIN BRAND NEW
Gudda Gudda, Grocery Bag
Lol I got her nigga, grocery bag 🥴🥴
We need a surviving Cash Money, G-Unit, Bad Boy & Muder Inc at this point. That would be lit 🔥
A Murder Inc documentary came out last summer
this 🎯
@@chasethekid11 Right but, I want a documentary from all the “Survivors” point of view..Ashanti, Lil Kim, Faith, Nicki, Wayne..all of em lol
I don’t watch tv but I’d watch that
No we’re not going to piggy back off a female victim story.
In general in music, signing under another artist who is big is not a good idea because they will never allow you to surpass them. That's why the Weeknd did not sign with OVO because he believed he could be bigger on his own and he was right.
Not even that they can’t allow you to do anything because they are under someone who’s calling the shots as well
Not bigger than Drake 😂
but still big, sure
That and they just won’t prioritize your career especially if they are still currently dropping and touring. Their own career always comes first.
@@nova_kris6366 Weeknd is up there with Drake. js.
Taking a minute to realize how dope Mannie was to produce all them hits 🎯
The most underrated producer!
Drake and Nicki is what blew young money up in the first place! No one really would have cared about Bed Rock if it was all the other crew members on that song lmbooo I still know drake and nicki's verses by heart till this day 🤷🏾♀️❤️
Even tyga contributed in the buzz of young money
@@tebogomalele2953tyga was definitely raw. I was really on his shit. Well Done 1,2,&3 Black Thoughts 1&2, and his debut album.
Tyga Gudda and Mack Maine always had good verses on the YM songs. What you mean
@@Chuck_Trizzlethe Careless World album solid as well
No way! Wayne put them on the map WAYYY before Drake & Nicki.
If I remember correctly, Lil Wayne was getting frustrated with Birdman and Cash Money, and he was going to be the last to leave and sign to Jay Z's Roc-A-Fella Records. Birdman stopped that by giving Wayne the President of Cash Money role, and have him create a label. That's how Young Money happened. Anyone remember when he had the Squad Up mixtapes?
Sqad 1 not Squad Up
@@TMFVell Sqad Up. The mixtapes were called "SQ", think about 6 or 7 of them.
Yep
Yes and I believe it was a 49/51 split. I truly believe Wayne was 49%. Also Birdman served Jay with a Tortoureus interference
@@blackzackmorris1985 Yo! Thanks for this. I knew Birdman did something with Jay, but didn't remember what it was.
Lil Twist and Lil Chuckee definitely deserved more hype considering that they became popular around the Mindless Behavior, OMG GIRLZ and Jacob Latimore era
Yeah that was they era to shine but they never really caught on like them even Diggy Simmons, Jacob Latimore were pretty successful in that teen rap/rnb era.
I feel wayne had 2 much on his plate then. Drake n nicki had a buzz already. J sean could’ve been a pop star if marketed right..chanelle shouldve been on more songs (i dont think she was on the album) twist n chuck could’ve definitely came out when all the kid rappers were out. Tyga was in his own lane too and he still doing good. But everybody else was happy to be around wayne to the point where they dont have shit to show for it now.
they really were, especially Lil Twist sucks how underrated they are.
I literally revisited Lil Twist’s discog on Spotify and I was in disbelief that he didn’t have what Diggy Simmons, Mindless Behavior, Jacob Latimore and them had!!! THEY DID HIM WRONG FR!!!
Great video. The best thing Currensy ever did in his career was jump off the Young Money bandwagon early. He saw the writing on the wall when Nicki and Drake came on board. The man has had nothing but independent success ever since.
Not as much Indepedent success as Drake or Nicki
@@NeverDial911 Curren$y was never going to be as big as Drake or Nicki. I'm sure if you asked him, he would tell you the same, which is why he left in the first place. The machine wouldn't know how to market him better than he could market himself.
CURREN$Y IS SOO DOPE 🎉🎉
He was already gone from Young Money by the time Wayne signed Drake and Nicki 😂...
@@rodneyscott5450 Good catch. But my point still stands. He knew he would be just another nigga in the background on a vanity label oversaturated with background niggas.
They was hating on Shannel FOR SURE. That one clap when she walked in 🤣🤣🤣
@@Fuckauf people thought Nicki and him were together and that never hurt her career if anything it Gave us some to talk about. They were definitely hating on her and in their interviews they talk about people being placed above them n being jealous. MissWomanEmpowerment surely put her head down when Wayne was calling Shannel his Grammy 🤔
Doesn’t Shannel look like Toya Wright?
@@Chrissy_Hillsdeff have similarities .
I notice that 😂
@@Fuckauf my point still stands, we thought they were dating. He spoke highly of Nicki and we loved it. There should’ve been no reason the whole label had a problem with Shannel because she was dating the CEO. But when you find o it how jealous they were of eachother it makes sense !
Young Money was such an era ❤️
No Limit era 10X better IMO
Birdman, Puff, & Jay-Z all need to be imprisoned for preying on minors and I'm disgusted they're still given a "pass" in the Black community & by the FBI who should have locked them up years ago!!!
Lowkey birdman groomed wayne
also the distribution and unbrella labels like universal, columbia, rca etc. its a ponzi scheme. You have to sign people to move forward and the same things happen.
🤣 the police and government don’t play fair. If they figure they can get more out of you by blackmail. You don’t think they will do it? And I do agree that we shouldn’t give these people a pass
@@juliojuarez4033 No "low-key" about it. HIGH KEY. Chris Stokes & Marques Houston need to be locked up, also!
@@abeltesfaye_100%
Basically, Drake and Nicki Minaj had that megastar power and they became the face of Young Money. Drake had released a lot of albums and soon left the label to start his own label, OVO Sound. They really have die hard fans who enjoy their music. Lil’ Wayne was the most popular rapper in the game at that time.
Curren$y went through No Limit Records, Cash Money Records, and Young Money, and still did very well for himself. When he left YM, he went on a crazy streak with mixtapes.
Keep it moving
@@SEANSTEEZY609 That he did, and built his own movement.
Yup, he has done and is still going great going independent since he left.
Yesuh speak on it 💯🤙♥️
Did exactly what he said he would
I think basically they gave Drake and Nicki 150%. The other artist got 50% or even less effort put into them.
Once Drake and Nicki took off it was all about keeping them afloat 😊
They probably did that because they already had devoted fan bases before signing and co signs from established rappers like Nicki and jadakiss. Also the both of them had already been associated with Wayne before the other rappers of their time were signed to them. Nicki had known wayne for two years before signing to him and had already him on all three of her mixtapes more then once. Also they kept gaining attention and it didn’t die down shortly after 2009
OMG! Just pay the people that work for you and put in work for you! What is difficult about that?
Greed
@@mys3682thank you because that was my exact thought
people disagree about how much work they did - everyone tends to overestimate how much they did, and downplays what others did - and then you can start to argue over how much that work is worth. it's hugely difficult, and it is why people hire lawyers and other agents to negotiate compensation deals.
Greed😊
Would you believe this happens to everday people? I just had to leave a job that wouldn't pay me 😅
This was put together so well . U take the best clips and sequences are perfect. This is a good one for the guys.
my theory is the label was a front to move money around and thats why they "signed" so many artist they had no plans on really pushing. Remember these artist backgrounds and how they got money to start their labels...
No Fr because didn’t birdman sign Paris Hilton? Lmao they most definitely was money laundering
Bird man busy kissing and abusing these boys and didn’t get their business right.
👀... Man no lies here.... Man... Just didn't make sense him being around Wayne such an early age...
@@nenep1872 i actually thought he was Wayne's father
Wtf was he doing around a random child??!
He needs to be in jail he’s a disgusting predator
We can definitely include Tyga in the conversation with Drake and Nicki
Tyga is like Flo Rida and Jason Derulo. They have hits but aren’t really remember either if that makes sense.
One issue with the label is that he tried to sign too many people in it.
I completely agree
I hope one day you do a deep dive on Fefe Dobson's career
She was such a staple for us alternative black girls
Omg yes!!!!
She married Yellawolf.. I almost passed out when I found out because thats some shit I'd do 😂
I am so glad that there are people that remember her! I still love all 3 of her albums.
Yes plz!
She still makes music. I believe she had lives in Nashville where she releases her own music independently. She did recently announce a new song and new tour. I think her last song was "FCKN IN LOVE" released last year
I understand why Lloyd didn't sign with him
He neverrrr should’ve signed to MGM tho!
@@sadejordan1812Omarion singing to MMG was a good move because Ross pushed him and he went platinum. Omarion thought he could do it on his own and flopped the same as meek and Wale . Rick Ross use to pick their singles and advise them on how to move and they were successful but they looked at it like controlling .
@@boomboombaby9140facts ❤
I'm happy for Lloyd
@@boomboombaby9140flopped?? Meek and Wale are still killing it to this day
It's crazy out of all of them drake, nicki, and tyga are the only ones that had success in solo projects even after putting out another group album.
To be honest nicki almost flopped Her first single massive attack flopped badly thank god a dj leaked "your love" nicki hated that song at first but that song took off and super bass made her a international star
only after Taylor swift showed Superbass love. Queen Taylor 😍
@@harleykenn13no one gives af about Taylor. Y
@@djdeznycNO. ONE.
@@harleykenn13Taylor is a brick and she did not make Nicki Minaj.
Massive attack is my fave lmao
Birdman has always been the problem all the artist that left still praise Wayne to this day
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y’all, baby even signed paris hilton at one point. cash money was wildin as far as business practices
I never understood the Paris Hilton shit. Probably worse business decision a lot with Chanel west coast. Probably never recouped lol
Drake and Nicki minaj started their own labels
Yesss they did !! Boss moves.
Right! So Real!!
@@Fuckaufheavy on it
With what money because Wayne had to sell YMCMB catalog which included Drake and Nicki’s catalogs 🤔🤔💁🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️🤦🏽♀️???!!!
@@angelaburress8586He sold all the feats they did with other artist not their actual solo releases also Drake worth over 300 million and Nicki with over 200 million so yeah they have money
Tyga still holding it down. A lot of haters may disagree but he still drop hit tracks but he isn't really backed up by a strong major label.
true. his singles do really well actually and get radio play.
Yea but his career is just singles. Nobody is jamming a Tyga album nor has he had a #1 album
Tyga is weak like T-rell his old manager. TF
Wayne really wanted to help them all but the two that were more widely received by the fans because of presentation was drake and nicki . The others like tyga & jay sean had to do things on their own and that was a blessing for them .
I actually like the interviews because I really don't wanna go watch the whole thing myself for one, and also it puts a lot of validity to her point she's making. I do agree they interviews could be a bit shorter or clipped.
F your opinion
Could you do a video on Solange and how she went from being known as just Beyonce's sister to making her own lane in the music industry?
Already did a video on it 💫
@@BLACKFEMININITYTV ill check it out!
I loved the We Are Young Money album when I was 18. 🎉❤
In the music industry you pretty much better off rollin by yourself
You need to be on national TV. Well you will be !
Fun Facts:: hot boys broke up it was due too financial mismanagement.& everyone left cash money besides Wayne. Also Juve left due to contract disputes & missing royalties. Manny Fresh whom was the producer & 1 half of duo Big Tymers he also left cash money due to financial reasons. So right there thats all you need to know about Birdman or should i say Baby. & I also think he groomed Wayne. They was always kissing on the lips & when caught "thats my son" but yet theres an interview where him & wanye were on 106 & park & they asked baby a question about kissing girls & as birdman tryna answer wanye speaks over him "im the only one he kisses" thats sus 🧐👀
Edit: Thankk you guys for all the likes!! I just wanted to add that in no way shape or form am I against being gay...What I am against is the "grooming" & "dishonesty" & the secrets of the industry acting like they Victoria.. she's the only one that's allowed secrets.
It was DEFINITELY sus and grooming like behavior smh
Birdman playing with everyone’s money
Being from New Orleans, alot of old heads will tell you that Birdman ALWAYS been sketch and alot of people been calling him out for his grooming of minors
Don’t forget Wayne had to sue Birdman for his money because he wasn’t getting paid. This happened years ago. He got his catalog back, but then sold Nicki Minaj, Drakes, and his catalog for $300-500k, i believe. If it were last than that, he was lowballed.
@@LA-Will100 million
You did some good research, I’m from New Orleans …you was spot on with some of the earlier stuff because a lot of people get that wrong from their local days
If I’m Shanell, and I signed to two major artist prior to YMCM Records, there’s no way I’m signing to a third artist. I would learn all I needed to know from the first experience, def would’ve stayed solo and independent. I’ve never heard anyone signed to these recording labels saying there were happy, and satisfied plus they last years on the label. It’s always short-lived.
Being independent is also extremely hard especially back then when most people that were successful were still from non-independent record labels. Nicki and Drake both did benefit from record labels. Nicki even did the unprecedented and avoided a 360 deal. Shanell needed to at LEAST get on the RIGHT label with the RIGHT deal. She was a pop star on a rap label with crazy vocals and moves, but that label didn't even bother to at least put her on some hooks for songs to take advantage. Shame.
You know that now but times are different. You needed a label back then.
She wasnt really sign 😂😂😂😂 they use her 😂😂😂😂😂
I went to that taping of that Monique show episode. I still can’t believe who Nikki & Drake grew to be!
I remember watching the episode on BET
@@MsTeo91 The Bling they had on wasnt shown. Lil Wayne necklace all we could see. Those studio lights made those diamonds dance
@@Libra_Strings History in the making 🤩 I’m low-key upset that the Monique show got cancelled
y’all not too much on shanell, her music kinda ate back then for a black rock/emo ear 😭❤️
I actually liked a few of her songs. She has a great voice. I definitely wanted that nose and ear piercing because of her 😂
she really did! she was great
Idk if im mature enough to "make up" with the person that allegedly had a hit out on me 🥴
I said the same thing lol that takes a real mature and pure heart
No Fr because wtf that’s wild and evil asf
Real forgiveness is for you. Takes the burden of their consequences off your heart. You do it because we are all sinners saved by grace. Does not mean you open the door for them to keep violating you. Because the moment you do...they will nail you as they been doing.
Naw Frl tho
Weird that Birdman is not on trial with Young Thug 🤦🏾♀️ he should be
Lil Twist wanna be Lil Wayne so bad🤣
Lmao. I know. Bless his heart.
He handed a rap star headshots like it was an audition for a role 😂
Seems like everyone was being ignored because Wayne was focused on Drake and Nicki more
And tyga too
need a "cash money shady business" video too lol
Facts!!! Every Cash Money artist has said Baby beat them out of their money
Troycetv made a good video on it along with bird man’s grooming
The truth is, those acts outside of Drake, and Nicki, couldn’t produce a hit on their own without a feature from the big 3.
The big 3(Drake, Nicki, Wayne) created their own lane/wave, while the rest were riding a wave sounding like every generic trend in that era.
Tyga was never looked at like a YM artist, he was his own brand.. he just didn’t fit in.
Drake, and Nicki, were superstars- so they get priority regardless of what’s going on.. I’m sure everyone else was mad, and probably started acting out- even to the point they felt the label were to blame for them not being stars.. the truth? Who’s made a legacy, and who isn’t relevant?
I agree!
I would also like to add that Tyga, Drake, and Nicki were bound to make it because they had a following/ buzz before they signed to Young Money. Their work ethic was strong.
@@aneshaelizabethAlthough I agree, Tyga is pretty underrated when compared to both Drake and Nicki, which sucks
that's very true, although Lil Twist had a lot of potential to be pretty great if he was given some attention.
@@angelnyambio5704 Lil Twist was to busy being a juvenile delinquent.
I feel like it’s easy to blame it on lack of promotion instead of your music just not being accepted by the masses. Drake and Nicki had the same amount of promotion but they just have that something special that made them widely popular.
Idk about Drake but Nicki went and did her own thing because she wasn't being pushed at the label. She worked alot for herself behind the scenes.
they lowkey had more promo imo
The reason behind Curren$y’s (Spitta) departure has actually come out.
His contract was terminated due to the fact that the label wouldn’t have been able to recoup. Spitta lost a lot of his belongings in Katrina and Wayne knew that his artist getting his life together would probably be the better move so he dropped him. Some of those details could be slightly off, but overall it was because of Katrina and that’s why Spitta has never spoken ill of Wayne.
This was so good!💖 Would love to see a video on Nicki’s label, I don’t really understand what she’s been doing regarding the competitions and artist she’s claimed to sign?
LIL WAYNE WAS LIFE IN HS!!!!! I’ll hear “Stunting Like My Daddy” and immediately I’m right back there. So talented and so underrated. Wayne doesn’t get ENOUGH praise! Him and Eminem are up there w Pac for me. Pac is king but these 2 are phenomenal.
Bird man said they grossed over 150$ million dollars???? That’s a damn lie if I’ve ever heard one 😂😂😂😂
When I was 17 and 18...nothing was playing in my car other than Young Money. I LOVED that Ms. Parker song...I also played that Chris Brown song "follow me like Twitter" and the "shoes" song. Anyone else remember those classics?! The In My Zone mixtape from Chris was a masterpiece to me. Lmao I miss those days so much.
I remember Bow Wow joined Cash Money too back in 09-10' and he was supposed to drop an album called "Underrated" back in 2012 but they kept pushing back his release dates and eventually he got shelved and never released the album and he also tweeted that they wasn't really promoting him as much as Wayne, Drake, Nicki & Tyga...
They did the same to Mystikal... He dropped 2 singles that were 🔥 Original and One Night one of Mystikal's best verses EVER.Bow WOW was in the video
In 2012-2013 i accidentally found a site talking in great detail how Drake had to take Cash Money to court privately to get paid. and it was settled in his favor. this never hit news back then funnily enough...
I had no idea that Jay Sean was sighed up to young money 🤯 it’s a shame that he didn’t make it far as Nicki and Drake tho
Jay Sean, Kevin Rudolf (“Let It Rock”), and Austin Mahone signed around the same time. I guess for the label to get pop appeal.
I knew he would never get like them. He wasn't gonna appeal to what they were doing at all.
They would’ve had to really push him as a pop act which they never had the bandwidth to due with all of those people on the label.
I didn't know that Currency was signed to Wayne at one point! I missed that! You dug up stuff I didn't know about.💯💯💯
He was on the Carter 2 album... he been with Wayne for a long time
You should check out that Young Money mixtape with him on it…
@@DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI for real! Didn't know that either.
I miss this era 😢
Outside the aspect of poor management and finacial mismanagement, a lot of grooming and facilitating minors with drugs took place in that label.
I didn’t know Shanell was DWoods sister! Wow
They alike lol
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Shanell, Tyga & Chuckee were always underrated to me. Also i wanna know what does slim think of all this since he is the co founder of cash money.
@@Lindsey-tr5jqWho??
I mean tyga is big I don’t know about everybody else 😂
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I was about to say, that Shanelle had a big song back then called “Impossible” but then I looked it up and it was another chick named “Shontelle” welp! 😂
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i remember that track would always be on Mtv in the morning
@@MrEOM41 memories!
Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾
Prayers out for those who were on the cash money and young money roster 🕊️also those negatively affected from doing business with them 🕊️
I enjoy your Channel ❤. Thank you for doing this video.
They were EVERYWHERE when i was in middle school and highschool during the late 99 and early 2000's.
Birdman really the Grimiest businessman in history. Even worst than puff😂
Add Master P to that list too.
you just had go to be there to witness this greatness
Every label has its time death row, no-limit, badboy, murder inc, g-unit, young money after awhile their popularity burns out
I’m still bitter about Shanell. I use to follow her on MySpace before she even signed with YM. She was so good and I was super excited when she signed but they did nothing to build her career.
I didn’t know D woods had a sister , what a talented family
I always wondered whatever happened to Gudda Gudda. I still remember his verse on Bedrock.
Grocery bag 🛍️
“I’m Gudda Gudda!…”🥴
@@AnAdorableWombat1😂😂😂
"And i got her nigga....GROCERY GROCERY BAG!' 😂
@@rhonnichan 😂😂😂
"It never works out for everybody". 💯 With every record label
Drake, Nicki & Tyga still fire to this day..., Wayne did good for himself it's Birdman who never handle Business wisely at his end.
Facts like I feel like birdman should of have most blame
Not Tyga
It'll always astonish me how the biggest rapper in the world is responsible for 2 of the biggest rappers in the world.
We'll never see anything like it again.
Young Thug responsible for Gunna and Lil baby
@@Keeppushing365 are Lil Baby and Gunna on Drake and Nicki’s level?
Wayne struck gold when he, Drake and Nicki got together - but damn I didn’t know any of this. Pusha T said bird man stole royalties and etc. which began the entire issue with drake. It’s unfortunate. Young money is very significant in rap culture. Shady selfish greedy fake people like bird man and the ones that messed them over deserve the worst.
People keep asking why Shanell didn’t blow up. Have y’all heard her sing live????????????? 🥴 Bless her heart! Bless Lol Twists funny looking heart too
Thank you!! Lmao idk wtf they heard lmao
They are asking cause they liked what could have came of her and wanted her to have a chance too. Not everyone is so blunt and rude like you cause lol that last lil comment wasnt needed. alot of singers cant sing live but they can still put on some music with her and she sure can write and put on a show shes talented asf.
Se fosse por isso sequer teríamos cantoras pop, quase nenhuma canta bem ao vivo.
😂😂😂😂
Tyga got some nerve he haven't sold enough to get 10 million 😂
The beginning of that sound cloud audio with Jay Sean 💀💀💀
Moral of the story don't sell your soul and stay away from gatekeepers
Curren$y leaving was the best move he made. Once Drake came through, that album was getting shelved.
Y’all research is so fire! Teach me oh wise ones.
Well it's on the internet how to jailbreak electronics and wire tap conversion and how to be an escort. That's the starter pack. You must invade and violate. Or else 😈👽
When I heard the masters being sold for 100 million I was so shocked cause it was between 3 of the biggest artist in the world.
Wayne only sold his own nobody elses
@@crownvicmusiccvm904 lies and lies
I fw Curren$y so heavy! Glad he didn’t go through with that deal… Drake and Nicki carried the YM label glad Wayne discovered them.. sad they went through all of this cause Birdman was greedy
Well said, him leaving and finding success independently
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Honestly law suits aside, the way lil Wayne used his power to halt the release of lil twist album because he knew twist was going down a bad drug addiction is honestly the most admirable thing. Wayne asked him to stop and get it into check but when he seen twist not taking it seriously he made him take it seriously. I mean probably should have put him in rehab or some sort of professional program but I wish all music labels would do this! Instead of glorifying drugs and the use of them. I will say if I remember correctly Lil Wayne dang near always had his “double cup” in music videos or interviews… always had his blunt lmfao so although that’s admirable and shows Wayne truly cared about his young rappers life.
I still think Lil twist music was garbage but hey maybe it’s because I wasn’t as high as him when he was rapping 😮💨
Yeah, I though that definitely showed Lil Wayne’s character in a positive light, but I have to ask myself if lil twist was just following the footsteps of every other adult on the label. Nicki admitted to doing drugs, Wayne definitely was on them, wouldn’t be surprised if most of the label engaged with some substances too.
I’m looking 👀 at that story from different angles, as you mentioned Wayne was always rapping about his lean and weed when in fact he actually doing much harder drugs. Did you hear 👂🏽 Twist saying that he was doing pills 💊 and drugs with his boss and people around him, his boss was Wayne so he kind of low key told us that Wayne was partying right along with him and maybe 🤔 possibly got him on pills! So he seemed like a hypocrite because he couldn’t even get his own sobriety in check especially during the height of young money, do you remember back to back stories of Lil Wayne being in the news for having seizures and it was reported to be caused by his drug use and or lean?! Lil Wayne was having so many seizures that the media even claimed to be worried about him because he was said to have went unconscious on an plane ✈️ ride after having a seizure in the air, they had to do an emergency landing. He ended going to jail for a year for a gun charge in New York back in like 2011 or 2012 and while he was there he gained so much weight he looked healthy again like 2004 The Carter version of himself and got out and started losing weight again and then going bald and having matted looking 👀 dreads that were falling out. He ain’t looked healthy again since that bid. Anyway I also can understand not dropping money on a active user who is hasn’t even dropped their first album and is stupid enough to start getting high and thinking that he should have a budget dropped on him for a project, where they do that at?! Not to mention he went Buck wild and kept getting arrested for dumb stuff. I don’t blame Wayne and his music from the clips here he was trash and the public didn’t really take to him.
I love cash money back in my high school days
Nah for real though wut really did happen to Young Money. They were everywhere at one point and then they just faded. Thank you for making this video. I needed closure on this topic for a long time.
Chile, I’m sleepy and read Young Miami. As always, great video.
Tyga still got a buzz to me out of everyone that came out of young money besides drake and Nikki
Love your content, keep it coming.
I knew that Cash Money was sued but I didn’t know about Young Money. I just thought the group split up. No wonder Lloyd didn’t sign with them. Also I had a big crush on Lloyd back then.
It seems like with all these artist labels only 3 can go. MMG(Ross, meek, wale), rocafella(jay, beanie, freeway), dipset(cam, juelZ, Jim) even good music( Kanye, Pusha, big Sean) idk it’s weird that it always seems that’s way
It’s like stocks you diversify your portfolio but you put more money into the stocks that are generating the most profit eventually you’ll pull your money out of the stocks that are failing. These artist are not people to them they are products/stocks. And good things come in 3s it’s a known fact but you have to pick the top 3 out the bunch.
Never looked at it that way 🤔but good eye 👁️