"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." Deuteronomy 31:6 Thank you guys for standing strong. Keep up the good work!
Good dialogue, well done. Besides being a slick operator, RJ is sadly quite delusional. As Bob Jones before him, these so called "trips to heaven" are nothing more than seducing spirits that have invaded the mind and reality of the life of RJ. He is convinced that these experiences are some sort of "proof" that he is an especially called prophet, of whom no one has the right to challenge. To those that serve God with a clean heart, He does give visions and dreams, as He leads them in ways that are unexplainable. Hopefully RJ will go through true repentance, and seek God with all his heart, and realize what the cross of Jesus is all about.
You nailed it! I've been badly maligned by 3 different churches who teach the nonsense that comes from these kinds of men. We need to STOP being intimidated by men who are filled with delusions and arrogance, who project their own evil on their victims, the flies and wolves and rebellious witches he says we are. He heaps judgment on his own head with every word. How dare we question them? Well okay, then. What I did was took it to God and presented my case as in a courtroom. After a minister refused accountability for his liars in leadership, he sharply "rebuked" me. He then preached a sermon about the Jezebel spirit, looking at me the whole time, while others in his inner circle would turn around and sneer at me. In front of the whole church. He never denied they were lying, but like Ricky here, there's always a cover story for them.That's demonic manipulation by a Jezebel spirit, if such a thing actually exists. I prayed for exposure, overturning and for people's eyes to be opened. That minister is no longer in my state (Another thing I asked for.) And the minister of the second church is also gone from that church. Let Rick go on bragging how high and mighty he thinks he is, 'cause it's gonna hurt when he falls. And...let it hurt. We do reap what we sow, Rick.
Do you have evidence he is a freemason? I'm not defending the man with this whole scenario, but he's spoken against freemasonry as I recall. I find this particular claim unlikely.
@@guadalupeeg5034 the knights of Malta are a very different thing from Freemasons. Historically, they are a Catholic Monastic order of knights and physicians. It is true that the Freemasons appropriated the term for one of their degrees, but the Freemasons and Knights of Malta have historically been in opposition to each other. In fact, one cannot be both a knight of Malta and a Freemason by the rules of the order of the knights. I know Rick is not a member of the Catholic which has the highest claim on the order, but my understanding is that the order he is a part of does go back to the original order through a protestant break off and, while protestants can be Freemasons, unlike Catholics, this order does not allow membership in both simultaneously.
That all having been said, I would be interested in seeing actual evidence. If he were a Freemason and it could be proven, he would probably be removed from the Knights.
Having people I know went through this kind of abuse I can tell you ricks reaction is gross and can't imagine if those were my young boys. Grown men need to hold their own selves accountable and stop blaming the students as being flies and wolves. Thank you!
What wrong doctrines caused these leadership implosions? 5.0 out of 5 stars ENTERTAINMENT FOR THINKERS... "Where Do We Go Now, LORD?" - Burke (on Amazon) Reviewed in the United States on September 30, 2024 After reading the first two chapters I considered giving up because I thought it was too quirky, and the poor grammar of the protagonist was distracting. I'm glad that I stuck with it. There was some refreshing laugh-out-loud dialogue mixed with a lot of sound biblical truths. I came away really appreciating the writer's style and outside of the box approach. I also like that he found a way to alert us to the soft tyranny we are dealing with in our culture. I did find a few odd typos like the acronym FBAI was written as FBIA a few times, but the book was very enjoyable and mentally stimulating.
It seriously hurts my heart the pain you seem to have. You and your wife needs to trust in the Lord and Him alone. This situation does not constitute Our Saviour. Be safe.
It does pain the heart of God what wicked men and negligent overseers do in His name. If in some way I have been able to share in this pain, I am grateful 🙏 I also rejoice that so many witnesses have come forward to take their own stand against it. We trust God with our whole hearts to do justice in His house. “For indeed it is righteous with God to repay those oppressing…” 2 Thessalonians 1:6
I have a very strong sense of discernment. Certain ministers I picked up on through the years something was seriously wrong. It may of taken years but mom said oh remember what you said well. My sense is I can’t stomach listening to them. But one did deceive me for awhile but when I saw his wife’s face oh no I knew sure enough. Other one powerful man of God. One day things changed I couldn’t watch him anymore I felt another man around him like big sin. Mom said I was wrong. Later she said it happened. The evil one is out for the leaders big time get the leader first then the church. I don’t pick up evil from Rick at all. When you’re in a storm it’s hard to look out but the ones outside can see more clearly in. People say how did you know to me. I say how did you not clear as day to me. Not saying Rick is perfect. We had a leader they all gripped and got rid of cause sometimes he had a temper say something strong a few fell apart. It didn’t bother me one bit. It’s a big job being a leader over a church. It was so sad they got rid of him. His love was great for us. I knew they was making a Big mistake. The one they chose it was a mess I so knew none of that would have happened if he was still there. I heard he’s doing pretty good now. Whoever got him was blessed. My brothers that way too. I had a few boyfriend’s after meeting my brother they said after I saw they was looking troubled “ it’s like your brother could see through me and the questions he asked me. “ he chased a few boyfriends off too.
John, the Rick Joyner deception goes so much deeper than the cover-up of SA. Maybe you've already covered some of this, but here is a link to an excellent video. ua-cam.com/video/yiTa9VAVO1E/v-deo.htmlsi=mp8RCI-BfXowWRUW The Rick Joyner stuff starts at about 20 minutes in...
You keep saying that Rick is claiming to be going in and out of heaven. I haven't kept up with Morning Star in years and am only just catching up on everything, what are you referring to here, is he literally claiming he is going in and out of heaven for advice with dealing with these matters? I wouldn't put it past him to claim that, but that's a pretty wild claim he's making if so.
Yeah, I'm sort of catching up myself. So he was stating on X he was just getting back from a "trip to heaven" around the time news was breaking of the lawsuits. He didn't specifically say he was there about those, lol, but uhhh...it sort of begs the question. For me personally, I am tired of charismatic kookery in general with taking trips to heaven like you're going to the grocery store. Sorry this was more of a commentary video ; ]
Rick is going full force to do whatever to help the victims. He has admitted his judgement was off he trusted these ones. They was the ones that did these horrible things. But Rick is being blamed for it. They are fully investigating this Rick is letting things being exposed fully. Listen to him
Cathrine and Chris didn’t tell Rick the truth he said if he knew the truth he would have never brought Chris back. These evils didn’t happen in church. Rick has been transparent. I feel you are going against a good a real good man
How about Bentley? How about Bickle, Bob Jones, Paul Cain? How about Rick’s failed prophecies and unbiblically supported trips to heaven? Rick is unqualified and was unqualified well before the Chris Reed and child SA events.
Thanks for watching 🙏 if you missed it in the description, here is the link to Emily’s open letter call to the Board: morningstaraccountabilitynow.com
Excellent brother! The Good ol' boys club is being exposed!
Thank you John.
AMENNNNN! I am screaming. Well done and amen!
WELL DONE JOHN.
I've appreciated your words and perspective. I left a house of manipulation and spiritual abuse.
Seems like money is the issue. Like Bickle, he stands to lose a lot of it.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." Deuteronomy 31:6
Thank you guys for standing strong. Keep up the good work!
I appreciate this break-down. Rick has been steeped in the religious system and power his whole life so he's going to be blinded by that.
Good dialogue, well done. Besides being a slick operator, RJ is sadly quite delusional. As Bob Jones before him, these so called "trips to heaven" are nothing more than seducing spirits that have invaded the mind and reality of the life of RJ. He is convinced that these experiences are some sort of "proof" that he is an especially called prophet, of whom no one has the right to challenge.
To those that serve God with a clean heart, He does give visions and dreams, as He leads them in ways that are unexplainable. Hopefully RJ will go through true repentance, and seek God with all his heart, and realize what the cross of Jesus is all about.
You nailed it! I've been badly maligned by 3 different churches who teach the nonsense that comes from these kinds of men. We need to STOP being intimidated by men who are filled with delusions and arrogance, who project their own evil on their victims, the flies and wolves and rebellious witches he says we are. He heaps judgment on his own head with every word. How dare we question them? Well okay, then. What I did was took it to God and presented my case as in a courtroom. After a minister refused accountability for his liars in leadership, he sharply "rebuked" me. He then preached a sermon about the Jezebel spirit, looking at me the whole time, while others in his inner circle would turn around and sneer at me. In front of the whole church. He never denied they were lying, but like Ricky here, there's always a cover story for them.That's demonic manipulation by a Jezebel spirit, if such a thing actually exists. I prayed for exposure, overturning and for people's eyes to be opened. That minister is no longer in my state (Another thing I asked for.)
And the minister of the second church is also gone from that church.
Let Rick go on bragging how high and mighty he thinks he is, 'cause it's gonna hurt when he falls.
And...let it hurt.
We do reap what we sow, Rick.
Morning Star Sinistery is Joyner's money machine. He is a freemason, not a Christian. You can't get apples from a lemon tree.
Exactly! This ministry is a synagogue of satan.
Do you have evidence he is a freemason? I'm not defending the man with this whole scenario, but he's spoken against freemasonry as I recall. I find this particular claim unlikely.
@PhilipHerot There's plenty of evidence. He himself says he is Knights of Malta.
@@guadalupeeg5034 the knights of Malta are a very different thing from Freemasons. Historically, they are a Catholic Monastic order of knights and physicians. It is true that the Freemasons appropriated the term for one of their degrees, but the Freemasons and Knights of Malta have historically been in opposition to each other. In fact, one cannot be both a knight of Malta and a Freemason by the rules of the order of the knights.
I know Rick is not a member of the Catholic which has the highest claim on the order, but my understanding is that the order he is a part of does go back to the original order through a protestant break off and, while protestants can be Freemasons, unlike Catholics, this order does not allow membership in both simultaneously.
That all having been said, I would be interested in seeing actual evidence. If he were a Freemason and it could be proven, he would probably be removed from the Knights.
I still say Rick Joyner sounds like HE's the bitter one.
mega churches don't wanna hear this
Having people I know went through this kind of abuse I can tell you ricks reaction is gross and can't imagine if those were my young boys. Grown men need to hold their own selves accountable and stop blaming the students as being flies and wolves. Thank you!
What wrong doctrines caused these leadership implosions? 5.0 out of 5 stars ENTERTAINMENT FOR THINKERS...
"Where Do We Go Now, LORD?" - Burke (on Amazon)
Reviewed in the United States on September 30, 2024
After reading the first two chapters I considered giving up because I thought it was too quirky, and the poor grammar of the protagonist was distracting. I'm glad
that I stuck with it.
There was some refreshing laugh-out-loud dialogue mixed with a lot of sound biblical truths. I came away really appreciating the writer's style and outside of the box approach. I also like that he found a way to alert us to the soft tyranny we are dealing with in our culture.
I did find a few odd typos like the
acronym FBAI was written as FBIA a few times, but the book was very enjoyable and mentally stimulating.
It seriously hurts my heart the pain you seem to have. You and your wife needs to trust in the Lord and Him alone. This situation does not constitute Our Saviour. Be safe.
Agreed
It does pain the heart of God what wicked men and negligent overseers do in His name. If in some way I have been able to share in this pain, I am grateful 🙏
I also rejoice that so many witnesses have come forward to take their own stand against it. We trust God with our whole hearts to do justice in His house.
“For indeed it is righteous with God to repay those oppressing…” 2 Thessalonians 1:6
I have a very strong sense of discernment. Certain ministers I picked up on through the years something was seriously wrong. It may of taken years but mom said oh remember what you said well. My sense is I can’t stomach listening to them. But one did deceive me for awhile but when I saw his wife’s face oh no I knew sure enough. Other one powerful man of God. One day things changed I couldn’t watch him anymore I felt another man around him like big sin. Mom said I was wrong. Later she said it happened. The evil one is out for the leaders big time get the leader first then the church. I don’t pick up evil from Rick at all. When you’re in a storm it’s hard to look out but the ones outside can see more clearly in. People say how did you know to me. I say how did you not clear as day to me. Not saying Rick is perfect. We had a leader they all gripped and got rid of cause sometimes he had a temper say something strong a few fell apart. It didn’t bother me one bit. It’s a big job being a leader over a church. It was so sad they got rid of him. His love was great for us. I knew they was making a Big mistake. The one they chose it was a mess I so knew none of that would have happened if he was still there. I heard he’s doing pretty good now. Whoever got him was blessed. My brothers that way too. I had a few boyfriend’s after meeting my brother they said after I saw they was looking troubled “ it’s like your brother could see through me and the questions he asked me. “ he chased a few boyfriends off too.
John, the Rick Joyner deception goes so much deeper than the cover-up of SA. Maybe you've already covered some of this, but here is a link to an excellent video.
ua-cam.com/video/yiTa9VAVO1E/v-deo.htmlsi=mp8RCI-BfXowWRUW
The Rick Joyner stuff starts at about 20 minutes in...
One day everyone will stand in front of our Lord
You keep saying that Rick is claiming to be going in and out of heaven. I haven't kept up with Morning Star in years and am only just catching up on everything, what are you referring to here, is he literally claiming he is going in and out of heaven for advice with dealing with these matters? I wouldn't put it past him to claim that, but that's a pretty wild claim he's making if so.
Yeah, I'm sort of catching up myself. So he was stating on X he was just getting back from a "trip to heaven" around the time news was breaking of the lawsuits. He didn't specifically say he was there about those, lol, but uhhh...it sort of begs the question. For me personally, I am tired of charismatic kookery in general with taking trips to heaven like you're going to the grocery store. Sorry this was more of a commentary video ; ]
Todd Bentley is in hospital
Rick is going full force to do whatever to help the victims. He has admitted his judgement was off he trusted these ones. They was the ones that did these horrible things. But Rick is being blamed for it. They are fully investigating this Rick is letting things being exposed fully. Listen to him
Yet he calls their claims ridiculous and outrageous.
Cathrine and Chris didn’t tell Rick the truth he said if he knew the truth he would have never brought Chris back. These evils didn’t happen in church. Rick has been transparent. I feel you are going against a good a real good man
How about Bentley? How about Bickle, Bob Jones, Paul Cain? How about Rick’s failed prophecies and unbiblically supported trips to heaven? Rick is unqualified and was unqualified well before the Chris Reed and child SA events.