I wish that the audience wouldn’t hoot, holler, clap and cheer when something like this is being discussed-it cheapens the whole discourse. Just let them discuss among themselves and then give polite applause when the segment is over. That’s what I would do, anyway.
Christopher Hitchens once pointed out that the "Bill Maher audience will clap at apparently everything." There's even a youtube of him saying it on Real Time.
Yeah some overexcited idiot.On a bit more serious note.I like Dumbo here,he says all the quiet parts out loud."Everyone who says bad about the Jewystan should get their livelyhoods taken away" LOL like people on the streets didn't know that already.It's why every contractor i knew in NYC was faking jewish heritage.Either this or you a goyim and try doing good after that.
As an American Jew w/ family & friends in Israel, I can assure you that what you have said is true but like eeeeverything involved in that situation - it needs context. Hamas runs the school system as they run the government, with an iron fist of propaganda & lies. Kids are taught the hatred of "infidels" like the Jews & are brainwashed into Islamic supremacist ideology. So they become radicalized adults. Garbage in, garbage out. They also - like North Korea or other dictatorships - do not have open access to any internet or free information that may dissuade them from accepting that ideology, so they have little options to actually learn or think anything else. I feel bad for them but do not want Jewish lives worldwide risked to change their situation. The other Arabic countries & communities should try to help but we see so many of those groups / countries operate in the exact same way (Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc).
Disgusting people cheering for 9/11. No Hamas in the West Bank, why are they being bombed? The son of Hamas called all of this out. This is horrific. Palestine funded 9/11. bush put the president of Palestine on a plane September 10 in the middle of the night. Yes, there are innocent Palestinians that you’re not deserve anything that is happening to them but when you listen to the son of the leader of Hamas, telling all of us that from the moment they are born they are indoctrinated to the belief that all Americans and Jews need to be killed. That’s a serious problem.
Remember in the early days of lockdown, when Bill did his show from the backyard of his mansion, and they had to pipe in canned laughter from old movies? His shit falls flat without 'help'.
70 plus years of misery and violence perpetrated by Israel has brought the worst out of many Palestinians. There is no moral high ground in this conflict Bill. What Hamas has done is evil. But no of innocents including kids Hamas has killed in the past week, Israel kills every year. West is just not used to seeing these many casualties from Israel side which they think are their own, based on their color of skin and of course culture.
"Foreign policy advisor to Senator Bernie Sanders" is NOT something I would recommend you put on your resume. I wonder, was he the guy who advised Bernie Sanders to support the Houthis?
Back in the holocaust, the Nazi needed more manpower to operate the extermination camps. So, they appointed Jews from within the camp ("Kapo") to serve the Nazi. The Kapos thought that collaborating with the Nazi will put them last in the killing order - and they were right. Many Kapo's survived the camps and lived on to poison the Jewish community from within - people like Bernie Sanders. No matter where you stand, you must always suspect a person who goes against their own family. It's the most despicable kind of person who cannot be trusted.
The worse part about Bill Maher show is its audience. It's like a bunch of mindless zombies hooting and clapping with anything Maher says. Its like an Onion skit.
I agree! Bill Maher could announce that he was going to have Everyone in his Audience Killed,and the People in that Audience would give Bill Maher a Standing Ovation,while Applauding, and Screaming Yeah!
This is the epitome of the Bill Maher show: a nuanced discussion about a complex international affair with grave consequences for all of humanity to the soundtrack of a herd of barking, clapping seals.
Not only that, but an abject omission of the facts. The jews have systematically been stealing lands from teh Arabs Since 1920. The Brits started the whole thing, and now we are supporting an aspiring autocrat and fascist.
So let me get this straight, Bill Maher, an atheist that’s been critical of the theocratic practices of Muslims throughout his whole career, supports the Jewish theocratic claim Of zionists who believe they have a divinely decreed right to Israel because of their holy book? And people take this clown seriously in 2023?😂
Every time they retaliate, they say what they’re going to do before hand. They are giving everybody ample opportunity to get out of there. The difference between the two parties involved is night and day.
@@OliTwisoak You really just aren’t grasping the actual conditions out there and that’s not your fault. Just research from speakers who aren’t in your normal list of speakers and paid to push a narrative. Just try listening to a neutral party who is on the ground. They’ve killed over 20 nuetral journalist from multiple press agencies who were on “safe ground”.
@@regularjoe5055 Yes they can. They can leave, or at least: Israel tries their hardest. What's stopping them is hamas. Physically. Because hamas wants as many casualities as possible. Are you insane or just ignorant?
Theres no proportionality in war its ridiculous to think so if it will happen in Britain,france America which it did they will absolutely desimate them.
The History of the imaginary Palestinian state: 1. Before Israel there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire Was the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayyubid Empire was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem was the Umayyad and Fatimid empire, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid Empire was the Empire of Alexander, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before Alexander's empire it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was no kingdom of Israel in the kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. In fact, in this plot of land kingdoms fell and fell .. But there was never a Palestinian state or a people.!@## The Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula, they are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula . It is pure propaganda to claim that Arabs are native to Palestine or that the Palestinians are not Arabs.!@#mmm!!@@#
I like Bill, his program, and many of his guests, but it really irks me that people clap at anything no matter how stupid it is! Jesus, someone please educate them!
Both parties are indigenous. Ancient history is important but recent history is more important. In past two generations since Oslo Accord in 1992, Israel's shown no commitment to the two-state solution.
Palestinian are just regular humans why can’t gay people support them? Don’t mix up Palestinian and Hamas. The same way you can be pro abortion and live in Texas. The individuals are not the same as the people in power…
“We need to shut dow Harvard University until we figure out what’s going on” followed by ragging applause…….imagine if someone in the right said that 😂
@@seveglider8406These universities rarely, if ever, allow guest speakers with opposing views. And, when they do, there are students who try to shout them down so they can’t be heard. So please, spare me
Going through the comment section, it becomes clear that the very notion of a two-state proposal is simply impossible. The vitriol spewed here is a microcosm-definition of what the actual participants feel, think and reason.
Can they just stop clapping.. enough already. Let them speak. And WOO? You don't woo to a conversation of this topic. Edit - its great to go down the comments and see many people felt the same way.. kinda makes my comment pretty redundant now
The clapping and woo hooing was vulgar with regard to the serious nature of this topic. It was either completely contrived, or people are really that pathetic. Either way, it's sad.
Agreed. I had to turn it off, between the guests talking over each other so that I could barely make out the arguments, to some idiot hooting like a monkey at every opportunity.
sad to watch bill and the other guy just ignore the issues with the israeli side though. isreal was bolstering hamas to divide palestinians. “yea but we don’t like them.”
I think at this point, Israel is over talking. This is not a “What is proportional response” conversation, this is a “Hamas are all dead and then we talk” conversation. Period
Good talk. The audience is so annoying with their constant applause. I think this topic is better approached without expressing any emotion from any side.
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces : The Time Of Israel “The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from” “According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.” The truth is stranger than fiction.
@@margaretcastellano3167The babies claim turned out to be a LIE! Stop justifying the murder of Palestinians babies because Israeli propaganda. In fact, israeli government officials have called Palestinian civilians as “human animals”. This is the same hatred used against the Jews in WW2.
@@indysingh4552 He'd probably blame both. There is a clip of him arguing against Andrew Sullivan exactly about this point. He's blaming Isreal there, while Sullivan is trying to tell him these are radical islam terorists and there is absolutely nothing on earth that can appease them. Hitchens was a leftist so it's not unexpected.
@@antun88 That was over a decade ago, he never accepted the illiterate Arab afterlife winged donkey ride. Building a mosque on top of Judaism's holiest site and you wonder what the problem is lol maybe build a new temple on top of the Kaa'ba in Mecca.
Where has this Bill Maher been? I may have to start watching the show again. I don’t want to hear any moral equivalence and no “but” from anyone. Israel has the right as any state to defend herself and her people.
Did you catch the part where Bill said “That’s coming after 75 years of being attacked” ?? What happened before those 75 years bill ? Perhaps They weren’t attacked because they were not there ?
This isnt just happening in Israel. People are being attacked across africa, and asia and the rest of the ME. Theres terrorism across Europe for years. There are hundreds of Islamist groups all around the world. attacking all races and religions. Tens of thousands die every year across Africa from Islamists. Even when they run out of non-muslims, then Muslims kill each other in Sunni vs Shia wars, or ethnic groups like the Kurds. People in the west are living in denial, and toxic woke left ideology has brainwashed our leaders.
Hamas has been stocking up in the tunnels on food, water ,electricity and weapons. Under ground tunnels that have built the terrorists are like cities.
The History of the imaginary Palestinian state: 1. Before Israel there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state 2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 3. Before the Ottoman Empire Was the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state. 4. Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid, not a Palestinian state. 5. Before the Ayyubid Empire was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state. 6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem was the Umayyad and Fatimid empire, not a Palestinian state. 7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state. 8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state. 10. Before the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state. 11. Before the Roman Empire it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state. 12. Before the Hasmonean state was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state. 13. Before the Seleucid Empire was the Empire of Alexander, not a Palestinian state. 14. Before Alexander's empire it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state. 16. Before the Babylonian Empire were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state. 17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was no kingdom of Israel in the kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state. 18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state. 19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. In fact, in this plot of land kingdoms fell and fell .. But there was never a Palestinian state or a people.!@## The Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula, they are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula . It is pure propaganda to claim that Arabs are native to Palestine or that the Palestinians are not Arabs.!@#mmm!!!@-#
Gabor Maté who is a holocaust survivor said: you think the worst thing you can say about Hams multiplied by thousands times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression, killing, and dispossession of Palestines.
We should encourage ppl to admit that theyre not informed on an issue 👀 that is where a conversation can start. What we should stop doing is forcing ppl to take a side when they very clearly are not informed. I have a masters in history w a focus on post ww2, so i know quite a bit, and while ultimately i support israel for various reasons, none of which has to do w religion, i dont say it lightly, and i have a lot of mixed feeling bc there is a lot of blood flowing in this conflict. its not a clear cut conflict, and we have to encourage ppl to have calm conversations based on knowledge and and intention to teach and learn, not fear, anger and greif. While fear anger and greif is rational in this situation, it is not a productive place from which to teach and learn.
Endless debate won't lead to the solution. Amnesty International has declared BOTH sides guilty of crimes against humanity. The ONLY bloodless solution is for Jews to relocate to a place where they are not hated. Eternal contentiousness over the land of their ancestors is the WRONG choice. If the Jews who migrated to other parts of the world can find happiness elsewhere, so can those who stubbornly remain. There's no happiness for either side with the eternal bloodshed that comes from them being there.
@@vytallicaq.6881, the Palestinian people, surrounded by all the Muslim countries unwilling to take the refugees in ( eg. -Egypt has not opened the Rafah border for the Gaza citizens) and you feel that the Jews will be welcomed with open arms every where in the world?🙄
He makes a great point about social media and college. Social media is trash. It’s a poison in our societies. I realize UA-cam is social media but I’m talking about Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Cut the cord. Close your accounts and walk away. Live life through the lens of your eyes and ears, not through a phone screen.
You're 1000% correct, sir! The closets I've ever been to having a social media account is YT. I never got into the myspaces, facebooks, twitters, etc...without them I feel I can think more clearly.
I tried closing my Facebook account three times, but they make it nearly impossible There are several websites that are linked to Facebook, and if you log in to them, it automatically reactivates your Facebook account. I'm serious.
@@danhtran6401Exactly nothings changed except better weapons to unalive people. Had the Crusades one example hundreds of years ago. Were Saudis called terrorists when targeted school bus in Yemen nope.Mossad has killed nuclear scientists civilians. Israel attacked USS Liberty using naplam of all thing. US military used white phosphate battle of Fallujah. Media and pundits etc pick and choose outrage and what people are called.
Today? This is nothing new nor special. Our species have been slaughtering each other since before recorded history (see: tribalism). Ever heard of the Mongols, Attila the Hun, Bulgurs, Romans, Aztecs, Mayans, Israelites vs Cannities, etcetera? Wars have MAINLY been fought forever because of : A) Land B) Religion C) Opposing worldviews/ideology. This is one in particular TODAY meets all three criteria. Both groups claim the land. One group finds inspiration in a book that tells them the land is theirs as promised by "god," and they both have opposing worldviews/values (not just religious views).
I hold with Christopher Hitchens who asked, "Why can't anyone get the peace in Israel/Palestine? Because the parties of god hold a veto." It's been an unending religious shit show forever.
You can claim it's religious as much as you want, but the fact is that Israel treats Christian and Jewish Palestinians just like they treat the Muslim ones. Just today they leveled down two Churches. You better do your homework and see how the Palestinian Orthodox Jews are treated simply because they accept the idea of a Jewish state(fyi, not all Jews around the world support such state).
@@kb24theMVPyes you can claim all the BS but the fact is Hamas is guided by terrorist prophet’s word. It was right there in the charter. The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.'
I only saw this clip. Bill promised they would have a conversation "about the history" of the conflict and insinuated they would put everything into context. Did that happen? I'm curious so that I could look for the vid. I don't have HBO. Did they talk about the Balfour Declaration from 1917? Did they talk about massive European migration into that territory after Theodor Herzl's push for a "Jewish Homeland" and a safe space away from pogroms in Europe? Did they talk about the 1948 U.N mandate? *Remember: the Arab population there was 90% in the entire territory during WWI whilst the English were trying to assert dominance during the fall of the Ottoman empire in the aftermath of said war. In effect, I would be curious to see this. Having deep knowledge of the history helps a whole lot to understand the conflict altogether. Indeed, you're right. It's impossible to balance. There is absolutely no reason in the world or excuse to ever target civilians, especially children.
Lazy and wrong. Easy to say NO. No more trading land for peace. No more copying other forms of government to appease the West. No more olive branches. Strong walls and boundaries, for everyone.
Woah woah, we can disagree about history? Maybe some parts, yes, but not about this history...because the history of the land that is currently Israel is very well documented. A lot of it, in fact, by the books known as The Bible...
Omg I so agree with Matt about social media! So thankful I was able to bring up my family for the formative years WITHOUT social media…Pen Pals 30 years later are still friends across the ocean!
Great for you, Boomer. Guess what: you are like those if the past who told that they were thankful that they were able to grow up without books. You didn't grow up with social media - and there you give the reason why you cannot use it professionally...just like someone who didn't grow up learning a language or mathematics...
@@johnnytalkerred This comment is so stupid. Use it professionally? Are you really equating the garbage on social media with language or math? People actually need to learn languages and math and have for generations. Social media is completely unnecessary and if it disappeared tomorrow, the world would be so much better.
I seriously don't understand all this loathing towards social media. To me, not being mature enough to understand how a generational innovation of sorts can capture/mold the culture in which it was created is just as naive thinking as to what you think social media is doing to present culture. If you're looking for trash on social media, you will find trash. There are also plenty of logical/facts information on social media too. There will always be idiotic nonsensical instruments of information in this life we partake. If you wanna lump social media in there; then go ahead. But ultimately it comes down to you. Are you idiotic and nonsensical? Or intelligent or logical?
"ANNOYINGLY" funny... At such serious topic being discussed... The loud clappings/laughing and the "whoa" from that one particular man... Super unnecessary....
bolsterin not funding. Yes, when you handle conflicts and crises, there are a gazillion different solutions to mitigate stuff and you cannot know for sure
@@aziza000 You don't know shit about crisis resolution, don't you? Israel is surrounded by enemies, some say they want no hostilities, some say so but lie, some say they want to destroy us but do nothing, some say they want to and try to. When you wanna have as peaceful country as possible, you try to deter the baddies and bolster the manageable or the peace seeking. Sometimes you make mistakes. Look at America which allowed the environment to the start of ISIS taking land
It is definitely possible to condemn Hamas for killing innocent Israelis while at the same time being critical of Israelis for withholding life-saving medicines, food and water to the Palestinian people.
This is a load of crap. There is border with Egypt of over 20 miles - how come supplies cant come through there? Israeli completely withdrew from Gaza in Sept 2005. So for almost 20 years the Arabs couldnt build a Road/Railroad/Goat path/ to get items into Gaza?
@@jwhiskey242 The helps are on the border Israel are not allowing it to get in! And talking about building roads and etc, dont u know that every few years boming like this happened on Gaza? Houses, schools, everything is destroyed!
@jwhiskey242 Israel does not want Egypt to bring in any supplies. Israel initially asked each Egypt to take in some Palestinians, but Egypt sees this as a trick to get rid of Palestinians and they will never be allowed back to their land in Gaza. Also, if Egypt takes in a million or more refugees from Gaza, they won't be allowed to return and so Egypt will forever have to take care of all the people that come in through its borders, which would cause even further economic crisis to Egypt that's already economically stressed. Several days ago, there were Americans in Gaza about 600 of them and Israel asked Egypt to take in those Americans. Egypt agreed to take them in however they asked that in exchange for taking them in, Egypt would be allowed to send in food water and medicines into Gaza. The Israelis denied that request. I know recently like yesterday or today The Americans were finally let into Egypt, but I don't know if food water and medicines were allowed to be sent in from Egypt to Gaza. How many innocent Palestinians will have to die in order to make up for what Hamas did to Israel two weeks ago?
@@reemalobayan3095 Palestine has received more foreign aid than Zelensky and much of it has gone the same way. ie. Into the bank accounts of the Hamas leadership.
yes, as if America wouldn't lol. yall say Israel should learn from your 9/11, and your afghanistan, and your iraq and the list goes on and on... it seems you haven't really "learned" from yourselves. if someone DARED do these atrocities in America (just a few of which: mass raping women and children, sending it to their parents, butcher people with gardening tools, torturing and beheading babies before their parents and kidnapping children and holocaust survivors) I DOUBT there would be people left alive to give aid to. much less that anyone would DEMAND America be the one to deliver it. that is laughable! absolutely laughable.
What bothers me about this show is the knee-jerk applauding. I am so happy that Bill is challenging the woke left-Thank you. But the rhythm of the show and applauding and hahas prevent moments of contemplation that could enhance the these encounters. You’ve got some good minds that often don’t get a fair hearing because we needed a burst of hilarity over clarity. (Would anyone on this show ever read what we’re writing here?)
When one side mantra is kill til no more exists and play by no rules, how is the other side suppose to react and still prevail when their hands are tied by rules?
I 100% agree. I’m on the left and I honestly am not a huge fan of Maher but I know many friends I have would immediately avoid content like this because of the difference of opinions. I find that more harmful than good. I’m not saying I go and watch Fox News to get a different perspective because that’s just flat out entertainment and propaganda, but conversations like these are powerful imo. I say that because for people to be open to change their perspective, they need to see other people have healthy adult dialogue on difficult topics like this and witness these people with diverse perspectives be open to the idea that their opinion is not the only right opinion. I really thought the guy with beard, who clearly he some opposing perspectives, laid out his perspective on the situation so thoughtfully. I thought he was a great representation of finding middle ground on a divisive topic. The problem with people these days is that we think about everything in binary terms. Your either this or that and nothing in between. This is not a black and white situation and he laid out perfectly why it’s not. There is a long history here that provides a lot of context that we need to consider when we examine the the right way to respond and approach these conflicts. Multiple things can exist at once as well, hamas are terrorists who need to be dealt with, there are innocent Palestinians who are being slaughtered, and there innocent Israelians who are being slaughtered.
@@osamabinladenssecondgirlfr4241 you are not too up on Maher, huh. He is an ardent atheist and one of the few who isn't afraid to call out Islam in the media /Hollywood. He understands thie Palestinian view aligns with the Islamic view and that one is almost always one of Jihad and murder and suicide to appease their religion.
Wow - the WOO-birds making their presence felt. 3-4 words for every applause break which average every 2 minutes and/or with every clever quip/salient point made... blech!
But trump. But, but trump. I know im wrong, but trump. I know the left is ridiculous and laughable, but... but trump. Why arent you mentioning trump. Men are women if they feel like it.... but trump. Humans invented hot summers and thunderstorms... but trump. Cobalt mining and slave labor for assembly is good for humanity... but trump. Why are u making fun of the left without mentioning trump. U must not watch this show regularly. He mentions the right (and trump) all the time. But the left is by far more ignorant and ridiculous at the moment. Youre just noseblind to it cuz ur likely part of the problem. response: .....but trump.
It's not the left at fault here either. Hamas and Likud are both extremists committing constant war crimes, they are not ideologically tied to the left. It's religious conservative a-holes fighting each other.
The whole "proportional" retaliation is 100% wrong. After the Empire of Japan attacked us on December 7th, should we have attacked them once and killed about the same number of Japanese and then called off any more attacks? If you don't defeat the enemy, the enemy will keep attacking you. As far as sending aid to Gaza. Should we have allowed the Red Cross and other aid agencies into Japan while we were at war with them?
The reason there will never be a two state solution is because the Palestinian authority rejects it everytime it has been offered. If they accept a two state solution they would have to acknowledge Israel as a state in a form and a fashion and they aren’t willing to do that
"There's a big difference between one side rejoicing when they kill civilians and the other regretting when they kill civilians." That's the crux of it, thank you.
There is also documented evidence that the Israelis in fact did kill children (schools) on purpose in past wars. Bill just chooses to either lie or ignore that. Moreover this and past wars also showed that a fraction of them, and not a small one, are notourious liers who spread fake evidence about hospital bombings. Not only lying about it once, but several times on the same matter.@@odeleon24
Bill Maher says to Israel 'don't do what we did after 9/11'. 'Don't do an Afghanistan/Vietnam' etc BUT he FORGETS that Gaza is not a world away from Israel. It is a mile away. Literally a mile away.
Also, the problem with post-9/11 was we went after the wrong folks. The Taliban played no part in the Twin Towers destruction, they merely harbored the mastermind. But when doomsday comes to Hamas, they will absolutely be at fault for what's happened over the past week.
I think that's obvious to anyone who can read a map. The point is you'll have the same results. If you think a non-stop circle of violence will resolve anything, you haven't been paying attention.
Bill makes a good point. Hamas is not friend of the Palestinian people. They have used them for years as human shields behind which they deliberately locate their such military targets as their HQ (under a hospital) and rockets (behind apartment buildings). Hamas has long refused to negotiate a peace (similar to the PLO before them) and is not interested in a two-state solution. The thing Israel wants most is a stable and vibrant neighbour. To this end, Israel has unilaterally pulled out all Jews (by force at times) from Gaza since 2007. The thing Hamas wants more, by their own admission, is to wipe Israels and Jews from the face of the Earth.
There are hundreds of thousands of Israeli militants (reservists), valid military targets, hiding amongst their civilians. There are hundreds of thousands of "civilian" illegal settlers, in the West Bank, increasing all the time. Israel has no interest in peace. They want to keep prodding and poking, until Palestinians react, and then use that as an excuse to expand even more. They are operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto, ffs, in Gaza. They have become the very thing they fled. Not the good guys, in the least.
Exactly. There was a meme that showed the difference perfectly - an Israeli soldier standing in front of a child, and Hamas fighter standing behind them.
Adding to this the fact that Israeil warns civilians to evacuate prior to attacking, as opposed to hamas who indiscriminately shells. Shit I can't say it's exactly easy to side with Hamas
This program was a total heartbreak. I could not help crying since I heard that Bill said that we should have made the deal with Iran the same way Obama did. Almost all my high school friends were killed by Iran’s government and I, a women, spent 61/2 years in their jail for just selling the opposition’s newspaper.I really want to cry my heart out when I hear the progressive people of this country believe they can make a deal with fundamentalists whose mission is to destroy infidels, US, and to wipe out another country from the map. This government executes people who already have sentenced to a few short years. Have you forgotten that the head of Iranian nuclear program during the negotiation with Obama, said that they showed the western countries the proof that they had disabled their center fusion , but they did not tell them that they had two? He said that on Iranian national television. Such naive assumption by those who.think shire will keep a promise while they have a religious permission to tell a lie “for the sake of Muslim nation” The world, especially middle-east, is in such situation since Carter supported Khomeini and France gave him a media coverage under the apple tree. The oil companies, Russian, Chinese and European are purposely have kept Ayatollahs in power with their deals. Such days for the progressive movements in this country.
I almost believed your story at first, but you kept on piling up the stereotypical BS after BS so much that your story lost all credibility. I am "touched" that you racists go to such lengths as to pretend to be from another nation and invent long stories of "personal tragedies suffered at the hands of our stereotypical enemies". Bravo for yet another lame attempt at acting! 👏🏻 Let me give you a hint: you should try other professions, inventing stories and acting is your weak side.
Western people of the current generation have never witnesses an opressive regime in their lifetimes. They think they're open and liberal, in reality see everything through their lenses. The outcome is naive people making bad choices in the hopes that they can solve problems like in the West - by goodwill and money. What if the other side does not have goodwill and is willing to lie its way out of things?
You see what happens if the wall comes down. Gaza IS its own state. The two state solution is a western approach-and has been offered many times and always rejected by the Palestinians. “From the river to the sea” says it all - and is chanted by thousands of Palestinians EVERYWHERE in the world. That’s not Netanyahu’s fault. He draws a conclusion based on the facts not on idealism that is suicidal. Also- dont take Abbas as such a positive constructive leader. His dissertation was based on the denial of the Holocaust. That speaks for itself.
I wish that the audience wouldn’t hoot, holler, clap and cheer when something like this is being discussed-it cheapens the whole discourse. Just let them discuss among themselves and then give polite applause when the segment is over. That’s what I would do, anyway.
they’re liberals what do you expect?
They are hired to do that so viewers think the opinions being expressed are popular.
They’re FAKE!
The audience (all men) we hear applauding and whistling and shouting Bill Maher’s own writers and staff.
@@benjamindover4337 Thank u
Christopher Hitchens once pointed out that the "Bill Maher audience will clap at apparently everything." There's even a youtube of him saying it on Real Time.
Someone has got to quiet the “woo” guy in the audience. It’s like he’s in every show.
He’s Maher’s specially appointed laugher.
I can’t stand it. Ruins the show.
Someone has to mock and shame Biden voters. They are the cause of ALL OF THIS.
Yeah some overexcited idiot.On a bit more serious note.I like Dumbo here,he says all the quiet parts out loud."Everyone who says bad about the Jewystan should get their livelyhoods taken away" LOL like people on the streets didn't know that already.It's why every contractor i knew in NYC was faking jewish heritage.Either this or you a goyim and try doing good after that.
Must be on good money.
Guys been there since covid
Most of the people of Gaza do not hate Hamas from what I have read. The last survey I saw showed 79% support Hamas.
As an American Jew w/ family & friends in Israel, I can assure you that what you have said is true but like eeeeverything involved in that situation - it needs context. Hamas runs the school system as they run the government, with an iron fist of propaganda & lies. Kids are taught the hatred of "infidels" like the Jews & are brainwashed into Islamic supremacist ideology. So they become radicalized adults. Garbage in, garbage out. They also - like North Korea or other dictatorships - do not have open access to any internet or free information that may dissuade them from accepting that ideology, so they have little options to actually learn or think anything else. I feel bad for them but do not want Jewish lives worldwide risked to change their situation. The other Arabic countries & communities should try to help but we see so many of those groups / countries operate in the exact same way (Iran, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq etc).
Correct
Absolutely true and terrifying but so typical!
It would be interesting to know how such a survey was conducted.
Disgusting people cheering for 9/11. No Hamas in the West Bank, why are they being bombed? The son of Hamas called all of this out. This is horrific. Palestine funded 9/11. bush put the president of Palestine on a plane September 10 in the middle of the night. Yes, there are innocent Palestinians that you’re not deserve anything that is happening to them but when you listen to the son of the leader of Hamas, telling all of us that from the moment they are born they are indoctrinated to the belief that all Americans and Jews need to be killed. That’s a serious problem.
Wow.. the clapping and laughing speakers were evidently on full blast during this segment.
Bill, as a fan:
Your "laugh staff" need to dial it back a notch.
Yes, Nis, I agree with your perspectives.
Sounds like he hired Ric Flair woooooo, wooooooo every 2 minutes
Remember in the early days of lockdown, when Bill did his show from the backyard of his mansion, and they had to pipe in canned laughter from old movies? His shit falls flat without 'help'.
How bout NO
But war is so funny to Bill....
I preferred the panelist discussions during COVID when there was no studio audience for them to cater to or to be interrupted by.
agree. can not stand his audience!
I don't get why this show even needs to have an audience, it's stupid.
70 plus years of misery and violence perpetrated by Israel has brought the worst out of many Palestinians. There is no moral high ground in this conflict Bill. What Hamas has done is evil. But no of innocents including kids Hamas has killed in the past week, Israel kills every year. West is just not used to seeing these many casualties from Israel side which they think are their own, based on their color of skin and of course culture.
And this audience. God so cringe!!
@@imsayrajPalestinians probably shouldn’t have supported the Nazis in WW2 prob would have helped their case when they redrew countries borders
"Foreign policy advisor to Senator Bernie Sanders" is NOT something I would recommend you put on your resume. I wonder, was he the guy who advised Bernie Sanders to support the Houthis?
Back in the holocaust, the Nazi needed more manpower to operate the extermination camps. So, they appointed Jews from within the camp ("Kapo") to serve the Nazi. The Kapos thought that collaborating with the Nazi will put them last in the killing order - and they were right. Many Kapo's survived the camps and lived on to poison the Jewish community from within - people like Bernie Sanders.
No matter where you stand, you must always suspect a person who goes against their own family. It's the most despicable kind of person who cannot be trusted.
Bill, at some point, it's not about "responding". Its about realizing you are in an intractable war for survival. It's about winning that war. Period.
The worse part about Bill Maher show is its audience. It's like a bunch of mindless zombies hooting and clapping with anything Maher says. Its like an Onion skit.
I agree. It might as well be automated clapping/laugh track at this point.
you havent seen The View
Go mix yourself up a cocktail with the stuff under the kitchen sink before you watch. You'll feel better.
@@scarpfish You were in the audience, weren't you?
It wasn't nearly this bad until after the writers strike, Idk what they changed
The only good thing about the pandemic was the lack of a live audience on this show.
Not the only good thing for sure, but I see and agree with you about the shameful audience.
Hooters and hollarers for hire
They're quite annoying. There is no denying that. They will clap at anything.
Bill fuckin loves it
Babies they are anti “Jew murder”?
This is some really heavy stuff. Thank you for airing this. I really needed tohear it.
Excellent conversation, nearly ruined by the hooting and hollering from the audience.
Just once I'd like to listen to a discussion on Bill Maher's show which was unaccompanied by trained seals.
Hear hear. So damn annoying
I agree! Bill Maher could announce that he was going to have Everyone in his Audience Killed,and the People in that Audience would give Bill Maher a Standing Ovation,while Applauding, and Screaming Yeah!
He’s in the trained seal business.🤷Claps and clicks is his business model ,welcome to America.
Har har har har!
As a trained seal I take umbrage at that characterization.
This is the epitome of the Bill Maher show: a nuanced discussion about a complex international affair with grave consequences for all of humanity to the soundtrack of a herd of barking, clapping seals.
It's not as nuanced as it might appear. May as well be Israeli propaganda.
Agreed on the braindead crowd.
Thanks for recognising the contribution of the seals.
Not only that, but an abject omission of the facts. The jews have systematically been stealing lands from teh Arabs Since 1920. The Brits started the whole thing, and now we are supporting an aspiring autocrat and fascist.
So let me get this straight, Bill Maher, an atheist that’s been critical of the theocratic practices of Muslims throughout his whole career, supports the Jewish theocratic claim Of zionists who believe they have a divinely decreed right to Israel because of their holy book? And people take this clown seriously in 2023?😂
Sometimes the clapping is annoying like canned laughter. But, three clapping came showed support for positive and generally true statements.
Every time they retaliate, they say what they’re going to do before hand. They are giving everybody ample opportunity to get out of there. The difference between the two parties involved is night and day.
Where are they supposed to go are you insane or just ignorant? They can’t leave
Giving 2.2 million people (some of whom are elderly and others may be hospitalized) 24 hours to leave a country is not realistic
@@OliTwisoak You really just aren’t grasping the actual conditions out there and that’s not your fault. Just research from speakers who aren’t in your normal list of speakers and paid to push a narrative. Just try listening to a neutral party who is on the ground. They’ve killed over 20 nuetral journalist from multiple press agencies who were on “safe ground”.
@@regularjoe5055 Yes they can. They can leave, or at least: Israel tries their hardest. What's stopping them is hamas. Physically. Because hamas wants as many casualities as possible.
Are you insane or just ignorant?
@@marvincharles7332 They have terrorists to catch. Waiting longer is not realistic.
Theres no proportionality in war its ridiculous to think so if it will happen in Britain,france America which it did they will absolutely desimate them.
Can the audience stop clapping for every statement?
They are hired to laugh and to clap. Laughter and applause don’t happen spontaneously on Bill Maher’s show.
The only people in the world dumber than Bill Maher are the people in his audience.
Amen@@nickbarcheck1019
The History of the imaginary Palestinian state:
1. Before Israel there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire Was the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayyubid Empire was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem was the Umayyad and Fatimid empire, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid Empire was the Empire of Alexander, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before Alexander's empire it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was no kingdom of Israel in the kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. In fact, in this plot of land kingdoms fell and fell .. But there was never a Palestinian state or a people.!@##
The Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula, they are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula .
It is pure propaganda to claim that Arabs are native to Palestine or that the Palestinians are not Arabs.!@#mmm!!@@#
They are a reflection of the stupidity and the bullshit spoken especially by Maher.
If you care about the human rights of some, but not of everyone, you don't actually care about human rights.
The left and these terrorist groups want uncivilized, so now they’re getting it, blame yourselves
I don’t care about bb or trump.
@@sandra-RUOKCool, neither cut babies heads off. Come back to reality.
@@OhioVworldthere are no independent reports other than IDF. So dont care what Israelis say
Do u also care about the rights of murderers and rapists?
Where is the concern for the hostages😢
Israel still has them, but hopefully it wont be around much longer, if there's any justice in the world.
Well said by everyone. Great dialogue. Thank you!
I like Bill, his program, and many of his guests, but it really irks me that people clap at anything no matter how stupid it is! Jesus, someone please educate them!
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥴🥴🥴🥴😂😂😂"APPLAUSE SIGN"
what?
Maybe Bill should try bring funny? He's half as smart as he thinks he is, and an eighth as funny.
yes@@princeeverlove
Somebody should educate Bill.
"We'll get to the history"
*Doesn't discuss the history at all*
History is all about waging Jihad.🤣🤣🤣🤣
He’s been progressively getting worse…and now disregarding facts…
Both parties are indigenous. Ancient history is important but recent history is more important. In past two generations since Oslo Accord in 1992, Israel's shown no commitment to the two-state solution.
either have Palestinians. Arafat walked away. @@Maliceless100
@@swarnendu89… Monu Manesar was doing Jihad?
and at this point they realize, there isn't really right vs left. there is sane vs insane.
"Killing babies is collateral damages" i mean just saying that,is just as disgusting and shamefully as it can get .
"I'm a gay man who has lived in Berlin, and this is a level of masochism that not even I can understand" - 👏👏👏
Please don't think God is a man! this jerk would be your friend.
I don't understand the joke
@@jurassicthunder Berlin is known for having a prominent fetish community, expecially among gay men.
Palestinian are just regular humans why can’t gay people support them? Don’t mix up Palestinian and Hamas. The same way you can be pro abortion and live in Texas. The individuals are not the same as the people in power…
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“We need to shut dow Harvard University until we figure out what’s going on” followed by ragging applause…….imagine if someone in the right said that 😂
Your right !!!!
Harvard and anybody who expresses an opinion should never be shut down. Let people speak, and allow other people to decide on what they're speaking.
It’s a Trump quote, not a serious suggestion.
@@seveglider8406These universities rarely, if ever, allow guest speakers with opposing views. And, when they do, there are students who try to shout them down so they can’t be heard. So please, spare me
@@seveglider8406worked well for Germany in the 30's
Thank you so much for your work since 2003. Thank you for inviting so interesting and intelligent commentators.
Going through the comment section, it becomes clear that the very notion of a two-state proposal is simply impossible.
The vitriol spewed here is a microcosm-definition of what the actual participants feel, think and reason.
Can they just stop clapping.. enough already. Let them speak. And WOO? You don't woo to a conversation of this topic.
Edit - its great to go down the comments and see many people felt the same way.. kinda makes my comment pretty redundant now
When i read your comment i agreed so much that i clapped and WOOed.
I have to say, your claps and woo's made me feel great. I take back my original statement!
The clapping and woo hooing was vulgar with regard to the serious nature of this topic. It was either completely contrived, or people are really that pathetic. Either way, it's sad.
@@jayjones9219 Or they're paid to be there..
Where is Ben Affleck to explain all of it?
Lol good call back
lol right. We need Ben Affleck to come on Bill Maher and explain this for us.
He’s busy making love to Cartman’s hand lol
And mark ruffalo. And sean penn. And Bono. And alec baldwin, the head of the Film Actors Guild.
If he has Netanyahu on he could have Hamas as well. War criminals are partially applauded on the show, just add one more
Conversations are had after hostages are returned.
Great level headed commentary on very contentious issues well done😢
I wish there was no audience reaction to this discussion. This is the first time I’ve said this while watching Maher all these years.
Aint that the truth... It proves what's wrong with the same narrative...
Agreed. I had to turn it off, between the guests talking over each other so that I could barely make out the arguments, to some idiot hooting like a monkey at every opportunity.
I've said this many times. Having a clapping and hollering audience is outdated and cheap.
Need to bring back Christopher Hitchen and his middle finger
@@toanthai This , though impossible, is so on point.
I miss that intellectual Behemoth.
I’m glad to hear all the guests condemn Hamas.
I assume you realize that Hamas was created by the Israeli government.
sad to watch bill and the other guy just ignore the issues with the israeli side though.
isreal was bolstering hamas to divide palestinians. “yea but we don’t like them.”
The Dems said Hamus chopping Babies Heads off was just a Late term Abortion's ...This wouldn't happen under Uncle Trump ....
@@JavierFernandez01 but, but, but Israel.
So they should. Only the most evil of people would condone hamas.
"The reason there is a blockade is to keep stuff like this do happen!" Yes!!
And yet it did not work. Hmmm
@@batmanRBCyou are right. trying is useless so not trying is the best advise
I think at this point, Israel is over talking. This is not a “What is proportional response” conversation, this is a “Hamas are all dead and then we talk” conversation. Period
The audience is so cringy
the audience is fake
“Our schools are crumbling and we want to teach the world a lesson?” - Bill Maher
Thank you. Good conversation
Bill should be on fox news
Good talk. The audience is so annoying with their constant applause. I think this topic is better approached without expressing any emotion from any side.
How could anyone be emotionless when talking about terrorists and the beheading of babies among other atrocities!!??
They’re prompted
@@alfandeddieExactly, enough of the prompts.
For years, Netanyahu propped up Hamas. Now it’s blown up in our faces : The Time Of Israel
“The premier's policy of treating the terror group as a partner, at the expense of Abbas and Palestinian statehood, has resulted in wounds that will take Israel years to heal from”
“According to various reports, Netanyahu made a similar point at a Likud faction meeting in early 2019, when he was quoted as saying that those who oppose a Palestinian state should support the transfer of funds to Gaza, because maintaining the separation between the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank and Hamas in Gaza would prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state.”
The truth is stranger than fiction.
@@margaretcastellano3167The babies claim turned out to be a LIE! Stop justifying the murder of Palestinians babies because Israeli propaganda. In fact, israeli government officials have called Palestinian civilians as “human animals”. This is the same hatred used against the Jews in WW2.
Imagine Christopher Hitchens being alive right now while possibly being on this panel.
He was great!!
@@MsLamotta he would blame Isreal
@@antun88 he'd blame Iran. Ask Salman Rushdie.
@@indysingh4552 He'd probably blame both. There is a clip of him arguing against Andrew Sullivan exactly about this point. He's blaming Isreal there, while Sullivan is trying to tell him these are radical islam terorists and there is absolutely nothing on earth that can appease them. Hitchens was a leftist so it's not unexpected.
@@antun88 That was over a decade ago, he never accepted the illiterate Arab afterlife winged donkey ride. Building a mosque on top of Judaism's holiest site and you wonder what the problem is lol maybe build a new temple on top of the Kaa'ba in Mecca.
Confusing extremists on both sides with the regular folk who suffer.
You’re absolutely correct. The IDF doesn’t rejoice while slaughtering innocent civilians. They shed crocodile tears.
Thats bullshit
Ok prove us worng@@mohamedissa1729
Most folks in Gaza support Pedophelia. After all their Mohammed was one
Bill still has the "YEAH!!!" guy in the audience....
Sadly he has those “yeah” dopes in his audience way too often.
Its his mom. Have some respect.
The audience is paid these days.
Maher has them in the audience every show!@@lupowins
The interns they put in the audience to yell “WOO! WOO!” and “YEAH!” ruin every episode.
Where has this Bill Maher been? I may have to start watching the show again. I don’t want to hear any moral equivalence and no “but” from anyone. Israel has the right as any state to defend herself and her people.
The real question that should be asked is does the actions of Hamas attacking Israel are ever condemned by the people of Palestine and by other Arabs?
Bro can you show us the 3 paid audience men who " WOO" every 5 seconds ? Or is that hust added in after edit. It's fucking annoying,
“If they put down their weapons…” crazy.
Bullshit. If Hamas put down their weapons (That Putin gave them) the IDF would kill them all and continue bombing civilians.
Did you catch the part where Bill said “That’s coming after 75 years of being attacked” ?? What happened before those 75 years bill ? Perhaps They weren’t attacked because they were not there ?
This isnt just happening in Israel. People are being attacked across africa, and asia and the rest of the ME. Theres terrorism across Europe for years. There are hundreds of Islamist groups all around the world. attacking all races and religions. Tens of thousands die every year across Africa from Islamists. Even when they run out of non-muslims, then Muslims kill each other in Sunni vs Shia wars, or ethnic groups like the Kurds. People in the west are living in denial, and toxic woke left ideology has brainwashed our leaders.
Hamas has been stocking up in the tunnels on food, water ,electricity and weapons. Under ground tunnels that have built the terrorists are like cities.
The History of the imaginary Palestinian state:
1. Before Israel there was a British Mandate, not a Palestinian state
2. Before the British Mandate, it was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
3. Before the Ottoman Empire Was the Islamic State of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
4. Before the Islamic State of the Mamluks from Egypt, the Arab-Kurdish Empire was the Ayyubid, not a Palestinian state.
5. Before the Ayyubid Empire was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem was the Umayyad and Fatimid empire, not a Palestinian state.
7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, the Byzantine Empire was not a Palestinian state.
8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were Sassanids, not a Palestinian state. 9. Before the Sassanid Empire was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
10. Before the Byzantine Empire was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
11. Before the Roman Empire it was a Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
12. Before the Hasmonean state was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
13. Before the Seleucid Empire was the Empire of Alexander, not a Palestinian state.
14. Before Alexander's empire it was the Persian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
15. Before the Persian Empire was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
16. Before the Babylonian Empire were the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
17. Before the kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was no kingdom of Israel in the kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
18. Before the Kingdom of Israel, the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel was not a Palestinian state.
19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an accumulation of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state. 20. In fact, in this plot of land kingdoms fell and fell .. But there was never a Palestinian state or a people.!@##
The Palestinians are Arabs and Arabs came from the Arabian Peninsula, they are indigenous to the Arabian Peninsula .
It is pure propaganda to claim that Arabs are native to Palestine or that the Palestinians are not Arabs.!@#mmm!!!@-#
Gabor Maté who is a holocaust survivor said: you think the worst thing you can say about Hams multiplied by thousands times and it still will not meet the Israeli repression, killing, and dispossession of Palestines.
We should encourage ppl to admit that theyre not informed on an issue 👀 that is where a conversation can start. What we should stop doing is forcing ppl to take a side when they very clearly are not informed. I have a masters in history w a focus on post ww2, so i know quite a bit, and while ultimately i support israel for various reasons, none of which has to do w religion, i dont say it lightly, and i have a lot of mixed feeling bc there is a lot of blood flowing in this conflict. its not a clear cut conflict, and we have to encourage ppl to have calm conversations based on knowledge and and intention to teach and learn, not fear, anger and greif. While fear anger and greif is rational in this situation, it is not a productive place from which to teach and learn.
Endless debate won't lead to the solution. Amnesty International has declared BOTH sides guilty of crimes against humanity. The ONLY bloodless solution is for Jews to relocate to a place where they are not hated. Eternal contentiousness over the land of their ancestors is the WRONG choice. If the Jews who migrated to other parts of the world can find happiness elsewhere, so can those who stubbornly remain. There's no happiness for either side with the eternal bloodshed that comes from them being there.
@@vytallicaq.6881, the Palestinian people, surrounded by all the Muslim countries unwilling to take the refugees in ( eg. -Egypt has not opened the Rafah border for the Gaza citizens) and you feel that the Jews will be welcomed with open arms every where in the world?🙄
Well stated.
Thank you. Everyone who knows history sides with Israel. Everyone who looks at death totals, skin colour, and religion sides with Palestine.
@@cblack4413so the Germans in ww2 were genocided and were actually the good guys! Such an interesting take. Love your conspiracy theories though
Hitchens called out these sycophants in the audience years ago.. God I miss him
Link?
@@mooseadjli2604 ua-cam.com/video/HECI4QK_mXA/v-deo.htmlsi=yKZZIU5oqTcoKvin
You mean the sycophants that condemn baby killers and rapists?
You must miss his anti-Islam stance especially, right?
@@dougbarker2227 as a lapsed Catholic, I prefer his views on that institution.. though he certainly makes cogent points there as well.
He makes a great point about social media and college. Social media is trash. It’s a poison in our societies. I realize UA-cam is social media but I’m talking about Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. Cut the cord. Close your accounts and walk away. Live life through the lens of your eyes and ears, not through a phone screen.
You're 1000% correct, sir! The closets I've ever been to having a social media account is YT. I never got into the myspaces, facebooks, twitters, etc...without them I feel I can think more clearly.
They can't. Neither can the MSNBC/CNN and Oh yes Fox News junkies. Once infected, only a few recover.
I tried closing my Facebook account three times, but they make it nearly impossible There are several websites that are linked to Facebook, and if you log in to them, it automatically reactivates your Facebook account. I'm serious.
It’s is you are right but it also gives you some news that you would have never heard from CNN or fox the puppets of money.
Totally agree.
Such an important voice, thank you!
Hamas rockets targeted civilian population before Oct 7th-a war crime😢
For Mankind to act the way we all do today ... is so so sad
What do you think mankind was doing before today?...
@@danhtran6401Exactly nothings changed except better weapons to unalive people. Had the Crusades one example hundreds of years ago. Were Saudis called terrorists when targeted school bus in Yemen nope.Mossad has killed nuclear scientists civilians. Israel attacked USS Liberty using naplam of all thing. US military used white phosphate battle of Fallujah. Media and pundits etc pick and choose outrage and what people are called.
We seriously need to evolve past settling conflicts with violence.
oh I opted out years ago, I recommended it. I just pretend everyone is just a tree or rock in my way.
Today? This is nothing new nor special. Our species have been slaughtering each other since before recorded history (see: tribalism). Ever heard of the Mongols, Attila the Hun, Bulgurs, Romans, Aztecs, Mayans, Israelites vs Cannities, etcetera? Wars have MAINLY been fought forever because of : A) Land B) Religion C) Opposing worldviews/ideology. This is one in particular TODAY meets all three criteria. Both groups claim the land. One group finds inspiration in a book that tells them the land is theirs as promised by "god," and they both have opposing worldviews/values (not just religious views).
I hold with Christopher Hitchens who asked, "Why can't anyone get the peace in Israel/Palestine? Because the parties of god hold a veto." It's been an unending religious shit show forever.
You can claim it's religious as much as you want, but the fact is that Israel treats Christian and Jewish Palestinians just like they treat the Muslim ones. Just today they leveled down two Churches. You better do your homework and see how the Palestinian Orthodox Jews are treated simply because they accept the idea of a Jewish state(fyi, not all Jews around the world support such state).
With america sponsoring terrorism around the region intentionally.
@@kb24theMVP still seems like religion to me....
@@kb24theMVPSo your repost is that it’s clearly religious? Because that’s what I got from your comment.
@@kb24theMVPyes you can claim all the BS but the fact is Hamas is guided by terrorist prophet’s word. It was right there in the charter.
The Day of Judgment will not come about until Moslems fight Jews and kill them. Then, the Jews will hide behind rocks and trees, and the rocks and trees will cry out: 'O Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him.'
Thank you Bill, much respect... coming from a conservative 👍
there has not been a defender of the Palestinians on this show other than Duss since the attack. Let that sink in.
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction." Blaise Pascal
don't quote common sense.....it is not common anymore.
Easy to condemn,impossible to balance
Israel's been giving them water and electricity as Hamas tries to kill Jews for the past 18 years.
It's easy. Abolish Israel.
I only saw this clip. Bill promised they would have a conversation "about the history" of the conflict and insinuated they would put everything into context. Did that happen? I'm curious so that I could look for the vid. I don't have HBO. Did they talk about the Balfour Declaration from 1917? Did they talk about massive European migration into that territory after Theodor Herzl's push for a "Jewish Homeland" and a safe space away from pogroms in Europe? Did they talk about the 1948 U.N mandate? *Remember: the Arab population there was 90% in the entire territory during WWI whilst the English were trying to assert dominance during the fall of the Ottoman empire in the aftermath of said war. In effect, I would be curious to see this. Having deep knowledge of the history helps a whole lot to understand the conflict altogether. Indeed, you're right. It's impossible to balance. There is absolutely no reason in the world or excuse to ever target civilians, especially children.
Lazy and wrong. Easy to say NO. No more trading land for peace. No more copying other forms of government to appease the West. No more olive branches. Strong walls and boundaries, for everyone.
Saying impossible is the reason why it’s impossible like a self fulfilling prophecy
Woah woah, we can disagree about history? Maybe some parts, yes, but not about this history...because the history of the land that is currently Israel is very well documented. A lot of it, in fact, by the books known as The Bible...
Israel had the moral high ground really.
Omg I so agree with Matt about social media! So thankful I was able to bring up my family for the formative years WITHOUT social media…Pen Pals 30 years later are still friends across the ocean!
Great for you, Boomer. Guess what: you are like those if the past who told that they were thankful that they were able to grow up without books.
You didn't grow up with social media - and there you give the reason why you cannot use it professionally...just like someone who didn't grow up learning a language or mathematics...
@@johnnytalkerred This comment is so stupid. Use it professionally? Are you really equating the garbage on social media with language or math? People actually need to learn languages and math and have for generations. Social media is completely unnecessary and if it disappeared tomorrow, the world would be so much better.
I seriously don't understand all this loathing towards social media. To me, not being mature enough to understand how a generational innovation of sorts can capture/mold the culture in which it was created is just as naive thinking as to what you think social media is doing to present culture. If you're looking for trash on social media, you will find trash. There are also plenty of logical/facts information on social media too. There will always be idiotic nonsensical instruments of information in this life we partake. If you wanna lump social media in there; then go ahead. But ultimately it comes down to you. Are you idiotic and nonsensical? Or intelligent or logical?
Lol okay??
It is funny how the crowd is jumping between intense cheering and awkward silence every time 😂😂😂
"ANNOYINGLY" funny...
At such serious topic being discussed...
The loud clappings/laughing and the "whoa" from that one particular man...
Super unnecessary....
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Woo!
They’re his robots, it’s a job not access.
I love how they literally admit that Netanyahu has been funding and bolstering Hamas and they all just shrugg it off like that’s no big deal 😂
yea cs it goes against their narrative, it's almost like "Wtf are yiu doing Matt, this is not what we discussed!"
bolsterin not funding. Yes, when you handle conflicts and crises, there are a gazillion different solutions to mitigate stuff and you cannot know for sure
@@davidtrak2679and he’s proud of bolstering a organisation he calls terrorists? The irony of it all.
@@aziza000 You don't know shit about crisis resolution, don't you? Israel is surrounded by enemies, some say they want no hostilities, some say so but lie, some say they want to destroy us but do nothing, some say they want to and try to.
When you wanna have as peaceful country as possible, you try to deter the baddies and bolster the manageable or the peace seeking. Sometimes you make mistakes.
Look at America which allowed the environment to the start of ISIS taking land
@@davidtrak2679no funded and created. It’s a historical fact. To keep the PLO or Palestine terrorists from having a legitimate gov. FREE ISRAEL
It is definitely possible to condemn Hamas for killing innocent Israelis while at the same time being critical of Israelis for withholding life-saving medicines, food and water to the Palestinian people.
This is a load of crap. There is border with Egypt of over 20 miles - how come supplies cant come through there? Israeli completely withdrew from Gaza in Sept 2005. So for almost 20 years the Arabs couldnt build a Road/Railroad/Goat path/ to get items into Gaza?
@@jwhiskey242 The helps are on the border Israel are not allowing it to get in! And talking about building roads and etc, dont u know that every few years boming like this happened on Gaza? Houses, schools, everything is destroyed!
@jwhiskey242 Israel does not want Egypt to bring in any supplies. Israel initially asked each Egypt to take in some Palestinians, but Egypt sees this as a trick to get rid of Palestinians and they will never be allowed back to their land in Gaza. Also, if Egypt takes in a million or more refugees from Gaza, they won't be allowed to return and so Egypt will forever have to take care of all the people that come in through its borders, which would cause even further economic crisis to Egypt that's already economically stressed.
Several days ago, there were Americans in Gaza about 600 of them and Israel asked Egypt to take in those Americans. Egypt agreed to take them in however they asked that in exchange for taking them in, Egypt would be allowed to send in food water and medicines into Gaza. The Israelis denied that request. I know recently like yesterday or today The Americans were finally let into Egypt, but I don't know if food water and medicines were allowed to be sent in from Egypt to Gaza.
How many innocent Palestinians will have to die in order to make up for what Hamas did to Israel two weeks ago?
@@reemalobayan3095 Palestine has received more foreign aid than Zelensky and much of it has gone the same way. ie. Into the bank accounts of the Hamas leadership.
yes, as if America wouldn't lol. yall say Israel should learn from your 9/11, and your afghanistan, and your iraq and the list goes on and on... it seems you haven't really "learned" from yourselves. if someone DARED do these atrocities in America (just a few of which: mass raping women and children, sending it to their parents, butcher people with gardening tools, torturing and beheading babies before their parents and kidnapping children and holocaust survivors) I DOUBT there would be people left alive to give aid to. much less that anyone would DEMAND America be the one to deliver it. that is laughable! absolutely laughable.
The problem is the fundamentals of the Qur*n. The fundamentalists are only the symptom.
Who started this WAR!? WHO IS USING OWN PEOPLE AS HUMAN SHIELDS😢😢😢
Who forcefully migrated to that land from Europe and Iraq and Morocco? When the native population is not accepting of it?
The worst part of being in the Maher audience is they make you hoot and holler at all times. It’s so fake and coerced
How exactly do they “make” you? Physical force?
That was your takeaway of all this? That’s what you focused on
Ur a fool.
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Exactly.
Fantastic comment to this .... well played
James, he's a Jerry Seinfeld looking ass 😂😂
They take my comments off this video if I say certain things about a certain country how odd
Bill I really love the show but the audience has gone beyond annoying at this point.
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What bothers me about this show is the knee-jerk applauding. I am so happy that Bill is challenging the woke left-Thank you. But the rhythm of the show and applauding and hahas prevent moments of contemplation that could enhance the these encounters. You’ve got some good minds that often don’t get a fair hearing because we needed a burst of hilarity over clarity. (Would anyone on this show ever read what we’re writing here?)
Well said
Lol. Bill is just the opposite. Just an establishment woke idiot representing the establishment.
Haha sure it is😂
What exactly is the woke left? Much like Antifa? Can you name one member of Antifa?
What about Russian atrocities in the Ukraine
Appeasing genocide is crazy
When one side mantra is kill til no more exists and play by no rules, how is the other side suppose to react and still prevail when their hands are tied by rules?
Finally… a civilized discussion. Media needs more of this and less “hate the other side”
I 100% agree. I’m on the left and I honestly am not a huge fan of Maher but I know many friends I have would immediately avoid content like this because of the difference of opinions. I find that more harmful than good. I’m not saying I go and watch Fox News to get a different perspective because that’s just flat out entertainment and propaganda, but conversations like these are powerful imo. I say that because for people to be open to change their perspective, they need to see other people have healthy adult dialogue on difficult topics like this and witness these people with diverse perspectives be open to the idea that their opinion is not the only right opinion. I really thought the guy with beard, who clearly he some opposing perspectives, laid out his perspective on the situation so thoughtfully. I thought he was a great representation of finding middle ground on a divisive topic. The problem with people these days is that we think about everything in binary terms. Your either this or that and nothing in between. This is not a black and white situation and he laid out perfectly why it’s not. There is a long history here that provides a lot of context that we need to consider when we examine the the right way to respond and approach these conflicts. Multiple things can exist at once as well, hamas are terrorists who need to be dealt with, there are innocent Palestinians who are being slaughtered, and there innocent Israelians who are being slaughtered.
Only in the US do people agree with your statement. the rest of the world doesn't have the Israeli lobby controlling the media like you do.
More lies ?
@@osamabinladenssecondgirlfr4241 you are not too up on Maher, huh. He is an ardent atheist and one of the few who isn't afraid to call out Islam in the media /Hollywood. He understands thie Palestinian view aligns with the Islamic view and that one is almost always one of Jihad and murder and suicide to appease their religion.
This episode is pure hate of Islam. Israel is controlling a people that they have to right to.
emotions ,emotions , emotions. Teach your children well. Teach the facts and only the facts.
Very interesting, thank you.
Wow - the WOO-birds making their presence felt. 3-4 words for every applause break which average every 2 minutes and/or with every clever quip/salient point made... blech!
They get paid by the WOO.Easy money.
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When a show repeats the saying "on the left" like 40 times without mentioning the right once……….then you may be a Fox News broadcast….or real time.
But trump. But, but trump. I know im wrong, but trump. I know the left is ridiculous and laughable, but... but trump. Why arent you mentioning trump. Men are women if they feel like it.... but trump. Humans invented hot summers and thunderstorms... but trump. Cobalt mining and slave labor for assembly is good for humanity... but trump. Why are u making fun of the left without mentioning trump.
U must not watch this show regularly. He mentions the right (and trump) all the time. But the left is by far more ignorant and ridiculous at the moment. Youre just noseblind to it cuz ur likely part of the problem.
response: .....but trump.
The left deserves to be criticized at this time (and I’m “on the left”)
It’s called being accountable. It’s a concept of which that ‘Fox News’ and its like has absolutely no understanding.
It's not the left at fault here either. Hamas and Likud are both extremists committing constant war crimes, they are not ideologically tied to the left. It's religious conservative a-holes fighting each other.
Does Bill not know of Christian Palestinians in gaza???
bill maher a mouth piece
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face- forever. George Orwell
- Mohammed
- Kurt Cobain
no, no I will not. I will not fall victim to a cynical self-fulfilling prophesy
@@theomarcus but you must imagine it and speak it through philosophy to hopefully warn a population of the repetitious patterns that plague humanity.
That is what is happening to Palestinians in their ever-shrinking territories. Bill Mars audience reveals the extent of US ignorance.
The whole "proportional" retaliation is 100% wrong. After the Empire of Japan attacked us on December 7th, should we have attacked them once and killed about the same number of Japanese and then called off any more attacks?
If you don't defeat the enemy, the enemy will keep attacking you.
As far as sending aid to Gaza. Should we have allowed the Red Cross and other aid agencies into Japan while we were at war with them?
Good show, i agree with Bill, first time
The reason there will never be a two state solution is because the Palestinian authority rejects it everytime it has been offered. If they accept a two state solution they would have to acknowledge Israel as a state in a form and a fashion and they aren’t willing to do that
"There's a big difference between one side rejoicing when they kill civilians and the other regretting when they kill civilians." That's the crux of it, thank you.
u seriously think they regret? did you even read ben shapiros tweets xD so if paletanian regret killing the civilians then ur fine with it xD
which side your talking about
which should also tell you quite a bit about the power disparity b/wn the two populations and what effect such extreme apartheid has on a people
I saw a lot of Israelis rejoicing these past 2 weeks but I guess Bill didn’t see any of that.
There is also documented evidence that the Israelis in fact did kill children (schools) on purpose in past wars. Bill just chooses to either lie or ignore that. Moreover this and past wars also showed that a fraction of them, and not a small one, are notourious liers who spread fake evidence about hospital bombings. Not only lying about it once, but several times on the same matter.@@odeleon24
Bill Maher says to Israel 'don't do what we did after 9/11'. 'Don't do an Afghanistan/Vietnam' etc BUT he FORGETS that Gaza is not a world away from Israel. It is a mile away. Literally a mile away.
Very good point
Also, the problem with post-9/11 was we went after the wrong folks. The Taliban played no part in the Twin Towers destruction, they merely harbored the mastermind. But when doomsday comes to Hamas, they will absolutely be at fault for what's happened over the past week.
I agree completely. Well said!
It’s still an apt point. The point is responding to a terrorist attack in a reactionary way without stopping to think is not going to work out
I think that's obvious to anyone who can read a map. The point is you'll have the same results. If you think a non-stop circle of violence will resolve anything, you haven't been paying attention.
Bill has lately sounded more and conservative.
Don't ever expect fart-left to be bright.
Bill makes a good point. Hamas is not friend of the Palestinian people. They have used them for years as human shields behind which they deliberately locate their such military targets as their HQ (under a hospital) and rockets (behind apartment buildings). Hamas has long refused to negotiate a peace (similar to the PLO before them) and is not interested in a two-state solution. The thing Israel wants most is a stable and vibrant neighbour. To this end, Israel has unilaterally pulled out all Jews (by force at times) from Gaza since 2007. The thing Hamas wants more, by their own admission, is to wipe Israels and Jews from the face of the Earth.
Yeah, but the Palestinians support Hamas.
But why are they still building settlements in the West Bank ?
There are hundreds of thousands of Israeli militants (reservists), valid military targets, hiding amongst their civilians. There are hundreds of thousands of "civilian" illegal settlers, in the West Bank, increasing all the time. Israel has no interest in peace. They want to keep prodding and poking, until Palestinians react, and then use that as an excuse to expand even more. They are operating an open air WWII style fascist ghetto, ffs, in Gaza. They have become the very thing they fled. Not the good guys, in the least.
Exactly. There was a meme that showed the difference perfectly - an Israeli soldier standing in front of a child, and Hamas fighter standing behind them.
Adding to this the fact that Israeil warns civilians to evacuate prior to attacking, as opposed to hamas who indiscriminately shells. Shit I can't say it's exactly easy to side with Hamas
This program was a total heartbreak. I could not help crying since I heard that Bill said that we should have made the deal with Iran the same way Obama did. Almost all my high school friends were killed by Iran’s government and I, a women, spent 61/2 years in their jail for just selling the opposition’s newspaper.I really want to cry my heart out when I hear the progressive people of this country believe they can make a deal with fundamentalists whose mission is to destroy infidels, US, and to wipe out another country from the map. This government executes people who already have sentenced to a few short years. Have you forgotten that the head of Iranian nuclear program during the negotiation with Obama, said that they showed the western countries the proof that they had disabled their center fusion , but they did not tell them that they had two? He said that on Iranian national television. Such naive assumption by those who.think shire will keep a promise while they have a religious permission to tell a lie “for the sake of Muslim nation” The world, especially middle-east, is in such situation since Carter supported Khomeini and France gave him a media coverage under the apple tree. The oil companies, Russian, Chinese and European are purposely have kept Ayatollahs in power with their deals. Such days for the progressive movements in this country.
And what do you say to those on the right who advocate for the genocide of Palestinians?
You were in jail for 61/2 years? I feel so sorry. How old are you now, do you still live there?
@@skybluemandarine 6 1/2 years
I almost believed your story at first, but you kept on piling up the stereotypical BS after BS so much that your story lost all credibility.
I am "touched" that you racists go to such lengths as to pretend to be from another nation and invent long stories of "personal tragedies suffered at the hands of our stereotypical enemies".
Bravo for yet another lame attempt at acting! 👏🏻
Let me give you a hint: you should try other professions, inventing stories and acting is your weak side.
Western people of the current generation have never witnesses an opressive regime in their lifetimes. They think they're open and liberal, in reality see everything through their lenses.
The outcome is naive people making bad choices in the hopes that they can solve problems like in the West - by goodwill and money.
What if the other side does not have goodwill and is willing to lie its way out of things?
You see what happens if the wall comes down. Gaza IS its own state. The two state solution is a western approach-and has been offered many times and always rejected by the Palestinians. “From the river to the sea” says it all - and is chanted by thousands of Palestinians EVERYWHERE in the world. That’s not Netanyahu’s fault. He draws a conclusion based on the facts not on idealism that is suicidal.
Also- dont take Abbas as such a positive constructive leader. His dissertation was based on the denial of the Holocaust. That speaks for itself.
Iran has to be held responsible too.... and Qatar. There is no Hamas without the funding from these 2 countries
The point about rejoicing over casualties versus regretting casualties is an apt comparison.
How when they purposely kill them just the same why does celebrating matter there's no regret like he says
yes it matters. yet, Israeli soldiers are dancing and celebrating. I side w Israel, but that is distasteful and gross behaviour.
Deir Yassin?
I can't believe this. I agree with Bill Maher.