It's nice for a refresher for sure. Sometimes you have been doing something a certain way for so long you forget some of the basic things. I myself have played for hundreds of hours and these are nice reminders of little things
You really want to be the megacorp when you're playing xenophile. The main benefit of xenophile is the +20% trade which can't be provided by repetitive tech. Also you get yourself into lots of trade deals due to your excellent relationship with xenos. Definitely use that to build branches. The energy income isn't worthwhile but the buildings are fairly good. There's no repetitive tech for +global amenities, +diplomatic power and +fleet size.
@@StarboyXL9 AI don't know how to build, so the energy income in a high pop planet is around 30/mo. The 1000 investment is paid off in 30 months. Not incredible but still acceptable. No need to build branch on any planets with less than 25 pops anyways, so in a few years the investment pays off. BTW, alternatively you can use that 1000 energy to build 5 private colony ships, so building the branches early is a trade-off. Later on you are rolling in credits so the energy income won't matter anyways. Don't count on human players to act rationally. In an MP game other players will always attempt to invade & purge. In MP almost everyone is genocidal since diplomacy don't really work with human players.
@@StarboyXL9 And I almost forgot to mention. The major cost of setting up branches is not the energy, but the influence. It's almost always not worthwhile to set up a branch before you a. Have researched executive retreat b. Reached fleet limited Being able to expand faster and grab choke points is far more important than the 10 energy/mo on a early game ally capital.
Anyways, it's just a plain waste if you're xenophile and not playing megacorp. Early on you want private colony ship+Public relationship specialist for efficient way expansion/diplomacy. Later on you switch to free traders+brand loyalty+gospel of the masses/indentured assets/naval contractors. Personally I prefer the Fanatic Xenophile+Spiritualist build because the mega Church is solves trade value+relations+federal cohesion altogether by using the special building to turn everyone into Spiritualist. Xenophile+egalitarian works due to the high trade value of utopian abundance pops, but it's an overkill amenities wise. Your happiness is always 100% even if you're running decent conditions. Materialist, militarist, pacifist and authoritarian have their advantage and are reasonable as well.
@@StarboyXL9 it's because they don't really know how to improve their trade value that I prefer forcing them into becoming my subsidiary BEFORE I make commercial deals and branches. If it's not because of the branch office I'll get a decent sum regardless.
Love that you promote Tiny Outlier, it's one of my favourite mods. I would also like to recommend UI Dynamic Overhaul together with it's submod extended toolbar which provides some great benefits . UI Overhaul Dynamic also works with Tiny Outlier with a compability patch.
I've had games where I've rushed to build an Outpost at a border so I can 'block' the AI expanding, only to have them fly through it and build Outposts in the gaps I left behind. Closing borders can stop that, but they won't like you for it. Bonus points if you close borders to them whilst they have ships flying in your territory. If you're going to intentionally upset them, might as well make the most of it.
Imo the positive effects from blocking borders far outweigh the negative opinion gained from it. It's not that much, I believe 20 from you closing borders and 20 from them responding with closed borders. An envoy can easily 'restore' 40 opinion. I always play with closed borders to everyone until I have closed all the gaps that they could potentially reach. And if you see a construction ship flying through your territory, simply close your borders again and the problem is solved.
@Peter Caballero If you can confront the xenos, look upon the xenos, even think upon the xenos, without revulsion, then you are as damned as they. -Inquisitor Loffengar
Well, what better way to claim dominion over the galaxy than to let the alien think he holds the galaxy then supplant him slowly until you are the sole dominion over the galaxy?
Just started a run as a xenophobic militant spiritualist, I did not realize how hard that would cause diplomatic ability to tank. Almost always play as xenophiles with either materialist or egalitarian, and this has been interesting thus far.
New viewer here :-) Enjoying these videos so far - really hope there's a "How to get your economy to survive the midgame" guide coming soon .. I keep getting to ~2350 and then having my economy completely collapse!
I may not be an experienced player, but it depends on the playstyle. Check first if your planets are in good shape. Balance in midgame is crucial. Either you have good tech, good fleet power or good economy. Just balance plants if not, economy will just crash.
Great tutorials! I've been playing stellaris on release, then dropped for few years and returned to completely different game. I returned to it once again now and it's different once again so I don't know what to do there :) Thanks for the tips
@@lonesurvivor8828 It's been 4 months, but I remember it was something awful and Lovecraftian. And I was NOT prepared. | Moved on to Rimworld...It hasn't gotten any better. Alpha Beavers.😥
Watching these all in order, you mentioned that you talked about claims earlier, however you only mentioned it in your first video (basics or beginngers) and said there's nothing you can do with it yet so you'll cover it later~
you shoudl try play this game with the mod reborn, its so awesome and so many new things like events and precursor its just crazy ! it add so much stuff that it feels it's a new update
Remember that building outposts at choke points with open borders means that those who you are trying to block can move though the choke and claim the next system anyway.
Newbie here . was waiting for the next tutorial.. i had started a game after seeing ur previous videos and was able to play knowing the basics ! thanks a lot ! One thing i am struggling is the influence i am around 2213 but still couldnt get an edict, because i am using influence to build starbases .. also completely forgot about empire sprawl and no clue how to manage that
Try to get some rivals but if you still can't get enough influence for edicts thats fine And for empire sprawl you want the administration center building which provide bureaucrat jobs who give admin cap
Question. To collect trade from a colony does the system that has the colony need a starbase with a trade hub in it, or does the system just need a trade hub in range?
I have a start I saved (2.7 All DLC UNoE 1kstars) which starts two jumps away from the Tiyanki special new home system... p.s. I recall having a game where I was certain I started building a Space Station 1st...but ended up losing the system. So, Build Speed might matter for making Stations.
You are playing without any DLC and you have found about as much relic sites as I do with all DLC (including Ancient Relics one) since Stellaris is in 2.7.* version... Seriously, since 2.7 rolled out I only sometimes get a notice that some of alien empires have one relic site and that is it.
My relations with Xenos basically amount to becoming the SENATE, the leader of MY federation, and whoever looks at me funny gets a Colossus in their capital world. Totally Xenophile of course, I certainly don't go Militarist and Fanatic Materialist/Spiritualist and enforce my Will unto my sla...neighbours. They make good Friends you know, specially when they eat an entire Crisis or Awakened Empire for me
Me after i make the race that basically welcomes in all the refugees and migrants with migration and migrant pull bonuses and then enslaves them and gets a +10% slave output bonus: *YES*
Expansion is way more important at this stage IMHO. Admin capacity not so much. I even replace the admin building on the homeworld with another lab once I've filled the empty building slots (typically with labs). The penalty for exceeding the cap by a few points is manageable, and you don't get any bonus when cap > sprawl, so you might as well just live on the edge. Keep shipping pops off to your 2nd world until it hits 10, put 2 admin buildings on it, then turn it into a bureaucratic world. As the building slots on this world unlock naturally, you can add more admin buildings with the occasional happiness building to more or less keep up with the growing sprawl.
Just play an Inward Perfection empire, then you don’t even have to think about other empires ...especially when you “accidentally” release the Gray Tempest, and you’re the only one with more than 10k total fleet power
It's improved quite a bit, especially if you turn OFF xeno compatibility at the galaxy creation screen. It's not entirely gone mind you, but definitely improved.
There is no end to the abomination of the alien. Do not allow any guise of sentience to stay your hand - there can be no hesitation when the survival of humanity as a species is at stake. -Inquisitor Kartize
Me staring a game: “I wish to play a peaceful diplomatic idealiatic Star Trek style society that works together with our alien friends.” Me after the 20th time some alien empire forward settles a vital system: “PURGE THE XENO SCUM IN THE NAME OF THE GOD EMPEROR.”
If you have open borders AI empires *will* hop single system claims. Even through Gateways. Had a fallen empire claim a system I built a gateway in after the Contingency destroyed the starbase, through *my own gateway* I had at their border.
If the alien refuses friendship, hug harder. Sometimes you gotta crack a few planets to make them stop resisting hugs. #blorglogic
Planet shield colossus is essentially a giant hug. Prove me wrong
Naheal can’t argue with fact. Just hug them with a big shield to keep them safe from scary xenos
This reminds me too much of a certain massive armored friend, allow me... Ahem..... VULKAN LIVES
@@IdontKnow-nm8bz *STOMP STOMP*
This is the most "In the name of the Emperor" thing I've ever heard.
500+ hours of Stellaris played and watching ASpec's How to series... And I do enjoy watching the series.
It's nice for a refresher for sure. Sometimes you have been doing something a certain way for so long you forget some of the basic things. I myself have played for hundreds of hours and these are nice reminders of little things
You really want to be the megacorp when you're playing xenophile. The main benefit of xenophile is the +20% trade which can't be provided by repetitive tech. Also you get yourself into lots of trade deals due to your excellent relationship with xenos. Definitely use that to build branches. The energy income isn't worthwhile but the buildings are fairly good. There's no repetitive tech for +global amenities, +diplomatic power and +fleet size.
@@StarboyXL9 AI don't know how to build, so the energy income in a high pop planet is around 30/mo. The 1000 investment is paid off in 30 months. Not incredible but still acceptable. No need to build branch on any planets with less than 25 pops anyways, so in a few years the investment pays off. BTW, alternatively you can use that 1000 energy to build 5 private colony ships, so building the branches early is a trade-off. Later on you are rolling in credits so the energy income won't matter anyways.
Don't count on human players to act rationally. In an MP game other players will always attempt to invade & purge. In MP almost everyone is genocidal since diplomacy don't really work with human players.
@@StarboyXL9 And I almost forgot to mention. The major cost of setting up branches is not the energy, but the influence. It's almost always not worthwhile to set up a branch before you a. Have researched executive retreat b. Reached fleet limited Being able to expand faster and grab choke points is far more important than the 10 energy/mo on a early game ally capital.
Anyways, it's just a plain waste if you're xenophile and not playing megacorp. Early on you want private colony ship+Public relationship specialist for efficient way expansion/diplomacy. Later on you switch to free traders+brand loyalty+gospel of the masses/indentured assets/naval contractors. Personally I prefer the Fanatic Xenophile+Spiritualist build because the mega Church is solves trade value+relations+federal cohesion altogether by using the special building to turn everyone into Spiritualist. Xenophile+egalitarian works due to the high trade value of utopian abundance pops, but it's an overkill amenities wise. Your happiness is always 100% even if you're running decent conditions. Materialist, militarist, pacifist and authoritarian have their advantage and are reasonable as well.
Joel Gawne this, I Focus my TV super hard on unity, so this Energy is super important to float my econ.
@@StarboyXL9 it's because they don't really know how to improve their trade value that I prefer forcing them into becoming my subsidiary BEFORE I make commercial deals and branches. If it's not because of the branch office I'll get a decent sum regardless.
How to deal with xenos:
1. Go to contacts menu
2. Click declare war
3. Select casus beli purification
4. Purge
Right? The proper treatment of xenos is fire and plenty of it!
Playing on ensign: WAR PURGE THE NEIGHBORING XENOS LEAVE NONE ALIVE!!!!
Playing on Grand Admiral: protect me AI senpai on these early years
playing devouring swarm hive mind on any difficulty when everyone gets sick of ur shit
haha im in danger
Oh well, I suppose I had best chime in with the 40k lot.
Pass me the heavy flamer and let's be done with it.
Exactly the tutorials Stellaris needed. Thanks !
Best way to deal with Xenos is to bring out the friendship lasers. No one refuses to be your friend when you bring the friendship lasers.
friendship? friendship is magic. And magic is HERESY.
This is great Content mate, It's really helping me get hyped for a full play through
“dealing with Xenos“ is a needlessly complicated way of saying “slavery“
when people hear "dealing WITH xenos", that is a translation error. what is really meant is "dealing IN xenos" :D :D :D
Loving the videos man!
Only have about 20 hours in game so this has been real helpful. Keep up the great work!
I may not be the first.
But i´m entrenching this comment section.
Like a good little Guardsmen
FORTYFING THIS POSITION
I was too late my Comissar. All the Krieg have died already.
Alien... relations?
Is this a joke I'm to Human to understand?
Xeno-compatibility. ^^
@@PerfectAlibi1 Definitely do that on multiplayer and see your foes desync.
@@PerfectAlibi1 It's the up close and personal style that attack the player themselves instead of the game characters.
I make it my mission to slaughter anyone who takes xeno compatibility. Not just because of the lag but because that shit’s gross.
@@mango4554
What about a tentacled alien with a hot girl? XD
Love that you promote Tiny Outlier, it's one of my favourite mods. I would also like to recommend UI Dynamic Overhaul together with it's submod extended toolbar which provides some great benefits . UI Overhaul Dynamic also works with Tiny Outlier with a compability patch.
How to deal with Aliens....
"Let's be Xenophobic...it's really in this year."
Let's find a nasty slimy ugly alien to fear
@@colonelhammerhead there's no more cute stories, about E.T. phoning home
@@clementlefevre5384 Let’s learn to love our neighbors, like the Christians learned in Rome!
@@alphariusfuze8089 We know we ought to hate'em, they're different you see
We see they’re mean and ugly in movies and TV
I've had games where I've rushed to build an Outpost at a border so I can 'block' the AI expanding, only to have them fly through it and build Outposts in the gaps I left behind. Closing borders can stop that, but they won't like you for it. Bonus points if you close borders to them whilst they have ships flying in your territory. If you're going to intentionally upset them, might as well make the most of it.
Imo the positive effects from blocking borders far outweigh the negative opinion gained from it. It's not that much, I believe 20 from you closing borders and 20 from them responding with closed borders. An envoy can easily 'restore' 40 opinion. I always play with closed borders to everyone until I have closed all the gaps that they could potentially reach. And if you see a construction ship flying through your territory, simply close your borders again and the problem is solved.
Relations with the foul Xenos? HERESY!
@Peter Caballero Yes, inquisitors, the heretic is here
@Peter Caballero If you can confront the xenos, look upon the xenos, even think upon the xenos, without revulsion, then you are as damned as they. -Inquisitor Loffengar
Well, what better way to claim dominion over the galaxy than to let the alien think he holds the galaxy then supplant him slowly until you are the sole dominion over the galaxy?
Apologies Kommisar, this heretic is ignorant of how this grimdark universe works. Better put him out of his misery.
Seeing the title …
*THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION WANTS TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*
Just started a run as a xenophobic militant spiritualist, I did not realize how hard that would cause diplomatic ability to tank. Almost always play as xenophiles with either materialist or egalitarian, and this has been interesting thus far.
Xenos: "We come in peace!"
Me: "Rest in peace!"
The correct reply is:
"You go in pieces!" ;-)
Heh Devouring Swarm go nom
it goes nom till suddenly whole galaxy wants u dead at once
then “terrified chittering commences”
What do you mean "alien relations"? STOP PLAYING WITH YOUR FOOD!
I've downloaded the tiny outliner and by the shroud does that help! Less scrolling about to find your settlements, armies ects
New viewer here :-) Enjoying these videos so far - really hope there's a "How to get your economy to survive the midgame" guide coming soon .. I keep getting to ~2350 and then having my economy completely collapse!
I may not be an experienced player, but it depends on the playstyle. Check first if your planets are in good shape. Balance in midgame is crucial. Either you have good tech, good fleet power or good economy. Just balance plants if not, economy will just crash.
I just try to stockpile as much as possible
Alien relations are hard. Almost every Xeno likes the business end of a rifle more than the man behind it.
I for one, welcome our new Alien overlords
*blam*
HERESY!
Heresy!
Yes Inquisitor this is the heretic
1:55 Which video did you cover claims in? I have forgotten that part. Or do you just mean building an outpost?
Yes. By claims he means building an outpost on a system that has been surveyed
Great tutorials! I've been playing stellaris on release, then dropped for few years and returned to completely different game. I returned to it once again now and it's different once again so I don't know what to do there :) Thanks for the tips
This video gave me a massive bonus!
Aye! Excellent work!!
Feeding the algorithm?
Yeah, algorithms need to eat too
Speaking to yourself?
Yup. I am a bit cray-cray, dontcha know.
Just started playing stellaris yesterday.
A Tiny map with no AI to learn the game...
I thought I would be safe.
I really did.
What happened?
@@lonesurvivor8828 It's been 4 months, but I remember it was something awful and Lovecraftian. And I was NOT prepared. |
Moved on to Rimworld...It hasn't gotten any better. Alpha Beavers.😥
Watching these all in order, you mentioned that you talked about claims earlier, however you only mentioned it in your first video (basics or beginngers) and said there's nothing you can do with it yet so you'll cover it later~
Even though you build in the choke node, can they go through it if you have open borders and build on the other side?
Nice colony name, "Like and Subscribe" lol
you shoudl try play this game with the mod reborn, its so awesome and so many new things like events and precursor its just crazy ! it add so much stuff that it feels it's a new update
Remember that building outposts at choke points with open borders means that those who you are trying to block can move though the choke and claim the next system anyway.
Newbie here . was waiting for the next tutorial.. i had started a game after seeing ur previous videos and was able to play knowing the basics ! thanks a lot ! One thing i am struggling is the influence i am around 2213 but still couldnt get an edict, because i am using influence to build starbases .. also completely forgot about empire sprawl and no clue how to manage that
Try to get some rivals but if you still can't get enough influence for edicts thats fine
And for empire sprawl you want the administration center building which provide bureaucrat jobs who give admin cap
Anyone know how those of us on GOG can get a copy of Tiny Outliner? The Outliner Gore is real midgame and I can't seem to find a download anywhere.
Ugh,xenos. More like fresh biological fuel for our stardrives!
The moment when you see systems with the familiar names in the video you have vietnam flashbacks from giant space battles
Humans and elves being allies? So when do we get a Lord of the rings remake but in space?
Question.
To collect trade from a colony does the system that has the colony need a starbase with a trade hub in it, or does the system just need a trade hub in range?
Both works
I see thanks for the info.
I have a start I saved (2.7 All DLC UNoE 1kstars) which starts two jumps away from the Tiyanki special new home system... p.s. I recall having a game where I was certain I started building a Space Station 1st...but ended up losing the system. So, Build Speed might matter for making Stations.
You are playing without any DLC and you have found about as much relic sites as I do with all DLC (including Ancient Relics one) since Stellaris is in 2.7.* version... Seriously, since 2.7 rolled out I only sometimes get a notice that some of alien empires have one relic site and that is it.
My relations with Xenos basically amount to becoming the SENATE, the leader of MY federation, and whoever looks at me funny gets a Colossus in their capital world.
Totally Xenophile of course, I certainly don't go Militarist and Fanatic Materialist/Spiritualist and enforce my Will unto my sla...neighbours.
They make good Friends you know, specially when they eat an entire Crisis or Awakened Empire for me
Me after i make the race that basically welcomes in all the refugees and migrants with migration and migrant pull bonuses and then enslaves them and gets a +10% slave output bonus: *YES*
Is having an admin capacity over the limit bad? Or is it worth it to take control of the choke nodes?
Expansion is way more important at this stage IMHO. Admin capacity not so much. I even replace the admin building on the homeworld with another lab once I've filled the empty building slots (typically with labs). The penalty for exceeding the cap by a few points is manageable, and you don't get any bonus when cap > sprawl, so you might as well just live on the edge. Keep shipping pops off to your 2nd world until it hits 10, put 2 admin buildings on it, then turn it into a bureaucratic world. As the building slots on this world unlock naturally, you can add more admin buildings with the occasional happiness building to more or less keep up with the growing sprawl.
@@sharkman4698 ah thanks! I'm brand new to stellaris trying to figure out whats important at different stages aha
I play as Fanatical Purifiers.
Xenos? Best served bathed in concencrated laser fire!
On the outliner, What does the yellow icon next to ships mean?
How to deal with Xenos. 1. get xeno-compatibly 2. ??? 3. Profit
Was expecting more purging with heavy flamers.
I note you didn’t seem too fussed about urban sprawl being in the red, is it not that big a deal?
It's easy to adjust for, and if needed I'll plop down a planet of bureaucrats.
either vassel them or conquer them there is no relationship to be had with xenos
We all know the emperor of man way is the best way
Alien relations... introducing xenos to mr kinetic battery in my mad stacks.
Just play an Inward Perfection empire, then you don’t even have to think about other empires
...especially when you “accidentally” release the Gray Tempest, and you’re the only one with more than 10k total fleet power
i play with xenophobic lithoids and purging the galaxy
@Aspec Why do you do all these anomalies instead of exploring more planets?
Has easily become my fave game to play- introduce the other half to it- “that’s just spreadsheet simulator”.... fuck.
Your economy is crazy good!
I always need to sell parts of my food income in order to finance my expansion.
Just got Stellaris on sale and 5 hours in I realise I'm out of my depth and need help... So thanks for the guide!
I've played through 300+ hours and I'm learning new stuff here.
Xenophobia is Heresy. xenophile is The holy way
How to deal with xenos the short version.
Go to species tab
Select set default rights
Select undesirables and extermination
Done
Why exterminate, when you can give them legal and not absolutly slave jobs? Xd
And biologic path helps to deal with them.
Diplomacy? Sounds a lot harder than purging planets.
Do you cover hiveminds anywhere?
getting research station over energy grids just feels wrong to me.
It's all situational, I prefer science boosts when my economy is stable
the deal is, you give me 25% of your output and i'll suffer you to live, until my megastructures are finished, then all bets are off.
Dealing with Xenos...um beyond controlling the Galactic market and a nice old fashioned Total War...
DONT.
How's Stellaris performance this day when it comes to the late game..?!
It's improved quite a bit, especially if you turn OFF xeno compatibility at the galaxy creation screen. It's not entirely gone mind you, but definitely improved.
LET THE GALAXY BURN
Playing with inward perfection is like meeehhhh f**k all theses Xenos ! Leave me alone ! Easy to explain ! xD
As long the Ai remains as it is, making having allies not worthwhile...well the comment senction speaks for itself.
There is no end to the abomination of the alien. Do not allow any guise of sentience to stay your hand - there can be no hesitation when the survival of humanity as a species is at stake.
-Inquisitor Kartize
America in 1929: "OH MY GOD WE HAVE UNEMPLOYMENT"
Me staring a game: “I wish to play a peaceful diplomatic idealiatic Star Trek style society that works together with our alien friends.”
Me after the 20th time some alien empire forward settles a vital system: “PURGE THE XENO SCUM IN THE NAME OF THE GOD EMPEROR.”
It's easy
COME BROTHERS
THEY SHALL BURN IN HOLY FIRE!
FOR THE EMPEROR!
AHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
What do you want, invasion, fleet bombardment, or neuron sweep, or crack a planet.
@@Zury1ogen yes
Go all John Sheridan on their ba-donka-donks.
B5 reference i see you are a man of culture as well.
When do you guys reckon Apocalypse will be out on Console?
200 years my friend...
18:16 those are my ethics wtf
Why is this a diplomacy tutorial? The title clearly states this is a planetary bombardment tutorial
that is from whahammer 40k yeah
One day I will play Xenophile....
SUFFER NOT THE XENOS TO LIVE
Galactic north and south? Ermmm...
Noice
Yey
Extremenatus!
Elf lover! The only good xeno is a dead xeno, or at the very least an enslaved nerve stapled xeno!
If you have open borders AI empires *will* hop single system claims. Even through Gateways. Had a fallen empire claim a system I built a gateway in after the Contingency destroyed the starbase, through *my own gateway* I had at their border.
Aspec: relations with xenos
Me: "cycles bolter" FOR THE EMPEROR!!!
How to deal with aliens? Well at the end of a gun of course
hello
Only one way
Exterminatus!!!!!!!!!
Truth
Its the Emperor's Will.
There are 3 types of xeno relations
Kill now
Kill later
Research federation then murder in endgame
or
Assimilate and then recycle for resources if they are lithoids and feed to the bio generator if they arent.
Dealing with Xenos... Ha! No.
relations? WAIT, are you saying my kinky alien pet has feelings?!?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?!?
Yes. but they dont matter... except maybe the Gieco Gecko...
Relations, you say?
*Sets default rights to undesirables*
Purge the Xenos!!! For the Emperor!!!
You cant have negative interactions with xenos if they don't exist.
idea: make it so theres a ton of primitives and no other actual empires
then. *PURGE IN FLAME*
Why are the aliens called demons and creeps, Youre xenophilic?
If exterminatus isn't your first instinct when dealing with Xenos then you're dealing with a heretic.
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