EV Charging DISASTER: What They Don’t Tell You!

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  • @AutoRebels
    @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +5

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    • @bstech2003
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    • @AutoRebels
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  • @brianpreval5602
    @brianpreval5602 22 дні тому +3

    Still a joke - a sick one!!!

  • @VOAN
    @VOAN 23 дні тому +3

    Damn 8 hours just to charge a car, you may as well take the bus. Eight hours is already equal to one work shift.

  • @kennethcava4488
    @kennethcava4488 Місяць тому +5

    Aren't thieves stealing the charging cables for their copper content?

    • @ImLivinSD
      @ImLivinSD Місяць тому +3

      Yes, in North America. It happens all the time.

    • @ziploc2000
      @ziploc2000 Місяць тому +2

      Yes I know of multiple chargers this has happened to.

    • @GhostDancer65
      @GhostDancer65 Місяць тому +2

      Yes, particularly in the Seattle area where they "defunded the Police"... It's very hit-and miss on finding functional DCFC other than TESLA.

  • @dkphantomdk
    @dkphantomdk Місяць тому +4

    just think about it, you have your smartphone chargin all night, only to be emty again in the afternoon ! :P

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh Місяць тому +1

      The battery pack in my EV is slightly larger than the battery in a smartphone. My EV battery lasts me 8 to 9 days on a full charge...

    • @dkphantomdk
      @dkphantomdk Місяць тому +1

      @@Brian-om2hh OH.. its larger :D
      - ok, so, if you charge your car for 2 hours ( not a fast charger or something )
      Iam thinking just the regular plug in the wall at home.
      1: CAN 2 hours of regular wallplug charging give you 2 hours of standard highway speed ?
      2: can 2h of FASTCHARGERS give you like 4h of highway speed or more ?
      - Iam asking because I dont know ????

    • @EbenBransome
      @EbenBransome Місяць тому +1

      @@dkphantomdk Short answer is no to the first, our wall charger charges at about 25miles per hour. Yes to the second, fast chargers run at 200 miles per hour and up (50kW and above). So if I needed to charge fast I'd have to drive a mile to the nearest fast charger, but normally I charge overnight at home.

    • @dkphantomdk
      @dkphantomdk Місяць тому +1

      @@EbenBransome thank you for your reply.. allways nice to gather knowlegde !

    • @CBSMews
      @CBSMews Місяць тому

      @dkphantomdk Your analogy to smartphone is pretty apt. Most days I don't use it much can charge it while I sleep (just like an EV average distance is 30 miles I heard). If I have to play videos all day on my phone ( like an long trip in EV) I need to find a way charge it and wait to recharge ( like long trip and charging station).

  • @reinekewf7987
    @reinekewf7987 14 днів тому

    1:50 that's wrong. Steam cars are at its peak, gasoline cars were at its beginning because those getting cheaper as electric cars. Eclectic cars at this time were significant cheaper as steam cars but yes the rage was pretty limited and charging didn't took very long. I mean yeah 10 to 20h sure but the capacity was also pretty low. Maybe 10kwh or so. This was enough for 30 to 50km and more than enough range for most people, even today.
    about charging time. i have a Renault zoe r240 from 2013. it has a 22kwh battery and is realistic able to reach 180km to 200km with this capacity. i have a 11kw AC charger. if i am charging somewhere it needs about 1h and 40min to charge up fully. yeah this is a long time sure, but i do this maybe 4 times a year. normally i charge at home and this with 2kw with my 230v European outlet, it doesn't really matter if it's slow. i do this only every 4 days and then this happens overnight when I am asleep. i can even charge at work over a 230v AC outlet. i mean, i dont care if this takes 10h. i am 11h at work. so i dont care. its free at work for me and at home its 3 times cheaper as public charging. i dont even need to think about charging, i do this when i come home or i reach work. Plug in and forget it. If i am visit friends, I charge there.
    for me personally, i don't need high range. i travel daily 20km total.

  • @jamesrockhill548
    @jamesrockhill548 Місяць тому +9

    I’ve owned Teslas since 2021 and have taken a few several thousand mile road trips and have only waited to charge once.
    Although I agree we need more charging stations everywhere, very soon every EV will have the same NACS charger.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +1

      Thanks for sharing your experience. Where you live? Because many cities have this charging crisis

    • @jamesrockhill548
      @jamesrockhill548 Місяць тому +1

      @@AutoRebelsYou’re welcome. I live in San Diego. The one time wait, was in Big Bear, CA.

    • @michaeld5888
      @michaeld5888 Місяць тому +1

      Tesla in the UK still have their base model at £39,990 with its rudimentary interior. These charging issues are academic to most people as they cannot afford to buy a tesla and any non Chinese EV in the first place, especially with Tesla given the spartan specification compared to what is available in ICE. I have a behind steering wheel small screen, glass roof and steering wheel stalks at 2/3 of the price. We have lots of roundabouts in the UK and when indicating turning right I reverse indicate when approaching the exit (few do though and many do not indicate at all). Doing this finding buttons on an upside down steering wheel is not something I would really want to do. Tesla seem to have a massive affordability problem for the technology and difficult to know how they will survive. They are offering a years free supercharging in the UK with the model Y and given the horrendous cost of electricity in the UK and inevitably set to increase this all seems rather desperate.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +1

      @@michaeld5888 thats the whole point its still a long way for ev to make sense and to replace petrol and diesel. Price , electricity price, charging time , charging stations. A lot to work on.
      There is no doubt that traditional engines will be replaced soon. But how soon is the question and with what?

    • @ImLivinSD
      @ImLivinSD Місяць тому

      ​@@AutoRebelsPundit alert.

  • @dougspray7160
    @dougspray7160 13 днів тому +1

    Even so the world is heading to become all EVs in the furture. America and Europe are continuously whinging about Chinese Government subsides and encouragement of EV development and sales which have been so successful in helping that huge problem of carbon emissions from ICE cars. Why doesn't America subsidise and encourage EV development and become good world citizens, perhaps reduce some of those 700 military bases world wide could finance the idea. I have just remembered Mr Trump and many Americans do not understand and accept the science of carbon emissions and their effect on the ozone layer and how catastrophic it would be for the planet as average global temperatures increase etc. Fortunately by far the majority of countries ( over 120 or so )accept global warming, signed up to the Paris agreement and have set targets to reduce carbon emissions to zero by certain dates. ICE cars sales are down, VW closed 3 factories, Nissen, Jeep etc likely to go bankrupt due to low sales. Clean clear air with no noise from ICE cars as high tech Chinese low priced incredible value EV sales are increasing at an astronomical rate in South America, Mexico, Asia and African markets. Heavily polluted cities like Jakarta Mexico City Sao Paulo etc etc are being transformed as EV sales increase. Come on America, lets have a bit of competition, you could equal the price and quality and produce EVs equal or better than the excellent Chinese high tech EVs if you invest in the industry and set your mind to do so. China is the undisputed biggest car manufacturer on the planet with sales growing ex
    ponentially and EVs improving continuously. Overall the world loves them.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  12 днів тому

      Thanks for such a detailed comment. I agree that america should try to compete instead of putting tariffs on Chinese evs

  • @jimaustin6410
    @jimaustin6410 Місяць тому +2

    Thing getting better. My chevy bolt should be able to charge on Tesla charger.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  26 днів тому

      yes lot of improvements are already made and lot more needed if they want to replace gas vehicles

    • @Timmymao163
      @Timmymao163 17 днів тому

      The Tesla supercharger will have your Bolt's remaining battery longevity.

  • @davidcolin6519
    @davidcolin6519 Місяць тому +10

    It's hardly "What they don't tell you!".
    In fact, they hardly ever STOP telling you.
    And the reality of car use mean that, so long as you can charge at home, the economics of EV ownership are so convincing that it beggars belief that people still buy ICE in most markets. It is only because I am self employed, and thus can't borrow against income, that I haven't got an EV myself. I live out in the foothills of the Spanish Pyrenees, but my wife and I only rarely have to do a round trip of more than 160km and, because we pay virtually nothing for electricity, an EV would pay off the difference between it and an ICE in less than 2,5 years, and that pay off would continue to accumulate the longer we kept it. Adding in PV panels would make even more sense and, with the prices of EVs continuing to drop, it becomes even easier to justify buying an EV.
    And Boy! oh Boy! Do all thses channels keep on pushing the BS of "Range Anxiety" and "Cold weather performance" as well as the burning batteries myth and all the rest of those ridiculous claims.
    Jeez, can't you guys come up with something more original? And there really IS a charging/infratructure problem that DOES exist, but nobody EVER mentions it. Seriously, the real charging problem isn't fast chargers at every corner, we just need far more slow chargers. Very, very few people actuall need fast ch¡angers, they just need plenty of slow ones. That's because most people DON'T do 600+km in.a day, but they reaqlly DO need to be able to charge when their EV is parked. It's hardly as if pay per KW slow chargers are difficult to produce, so WTAF don't governments, both local and national,.promote the installation of public slow chargers? This is the REALLY SIMPLE solution to this whole ridiculous "problem" and it is cause by knbuckle headed politicians who are incapable of realising that EVs have schanged the whole paradigm. They are stuck in the thought process of having to "fill up" in the traditional sense. I hate to break it to you, but one of the biggest ADVANTAGES of EVs is that need not much more than a f***ing wall socket!.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +1

      Anxiety and cold weather effect are real. My many friends own evs and i have driven them many times. One more weird thing that i noticed with Electric Mustang is that it drives less kms than the range shown on screen.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +2

      Anxiety and cold weather effect are real. My many friends own evs and i have driven them many times. One more weird thing that i noticed with Electric Mustang is that it drives less kms than the range shown on screen.

    • @davidcolin6519
      @davidcolin6519 Місяць тому +2

      @@AutoRebels Seriousñly? I mean, whoopy do. I can say precisely the same of any ICE, ye nobody bangs on about range anxiety because of a klack of fuel stattions, while the vast majority of EV owners that I know rarely, if ever, even have to use a fast charger. I even have an acquaintance who has a model Y and who has a daily commute of 160km. Guess what? He hasn't used a fast charger since he bought the thing.
      And, living in Spain, which is spectacularly mountainous, most EV owners recognise that their EVs here actually get more kms than they would in an ICE because of region.
      Nor am I saying that cold weather performance fall off is not "a thing", but it is certainly something that nobody tells you! FFS, it's mentioned in pretty much every f***ing review I've watched, which was my complaint. And the fact is that here, unlike the UK or northern States in the USA, the reduction in battery performance is hardly noticeable, yet NOBODY has bothered to point either of these factors out.
      And pretty much every single comparison or review appears to presume that an EV is going to be charged on a fast charger all the time, which is onlky rarely, if ever, true for the vast majority of EVs, at least in Europe.

    • @bstech2003
      @bstech2003 Місяць тому +1

      @@AutoRebels Really? Anxiety effect is not real. Anxiety is an emotion and doesn't impact an EV's range. Cold weather does impact range but my experience is only about a 20% drop.
      So you don't own an EV but you have borrowed your friends EVs? Why? Do you even own any car? And really how much have you really driven an EV?
      Both ICE and EVs display miles to empty. These numbers are impacted by weather, how they are driven and many other factors. My wife has always gotten 10% less MPG than I do.
      So do you have any real information that you have learned from relevant experience? If not maybe you should find a different topic to post on.

    • @Skyhawk1480
      @Skyhawk1480 Місяць тому +2

      @@bstech2003 We get about a 35% drop in range where I live in Canada. It's because my wife likes the cabin warm, like 21 C when it's -25 C outside. It's not a problem for us at all though, because my wife's long highway commute is only about 180 km daily. So there is still battery left when she gets home at the end of the day with the charge limit set to 80%. Because it's a cheap used Chevy Bolt EV, it's nearly paid for itself just in gasoline savings alone, not to mention no maintenance since we bought it nearly 3 years ago.
      I can't speak to this video, because like everyone else who owns an EV I know, we've never used a public charger before. But they do exist in our nearest town for tourists and such.

  • @Tool_Rebels
    @Tool_Rebels Місяць тому +4

    Amazing video

  • @Medix247
    @Medix247 Місяць тому +4

    at the end of the day it still creates pollution: Lithium and drawing power from power stations... Nikola Tesla... Russias trojan horse..

    • @garywozniak7742
      @garywozniak7742 Місяць тому +2

      Yes, but it creates less.

    • @daveb9104
      @daveb9104 Місяць тому +1

      Not necessarily. Besides the fact that there are hundreds of other materials mined besides lithium to worry about, I have an F150 Lightning that is charged exclusively by the solar panels on my house. (Yeah, yeah, right - pollution to manufacture, but that is the case with EVERYTHING, including that PC you're using right now). And granted, they are of no use on a long trip, but that's where a PHEV comes into play.
      That's the future. Take it from me - the guy who coyly told many a person in the '80s "Don't worry, you'll have one soon enough" when they asked me why I needed a computer at home to "balance my checkbook".
      (I think Tesla was Croatian or something like that besides Russian, no?)

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  26 днів тому +1

      Totally get what you mean! It’s wild how all this tech can help us, but at what cost, right? Let’s just say, it’s a bit of a mixed bag!

  • @Natures_Speed
    @Natures_Speed Місяць тому +3

    awesome channel content is very engaging and informative keep it up

  • @RockFish-uv9vs
    @RockFish-uv9vs 25 днів тому +2

    EV car don't pay road TAXS

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  24 дні тому +1

      Its just to promote them. all taxes will be applied once they are only option available

    • @williamhaynes7089
      @williamhaynes7089 19 днів тому +1

      in my state, there is an extra $200 added to yearly car tags to ev's to make up for it

  • @jamie.777
    @jamie.777 29 днів тому +3

    Ev's are not everywhere. There in yuppie towns, thats it

  • @seaplaneguy1
    @seaplaneguy1 Місяць тому +3

    Actually, the first modern EV was invented in 1990 by Amerigon electric vehicles. They were airbag people and my direct boss what the inventor. They spent 10 million (like $30 mil today) and stopped. They sold it to Tata in India. They realized EVs won't work.
    There are 100s of reasons EV won't work.
    New combustion tech will make EVs totally obsolete for perhaps another 100 years. 1830...2130. 300 years.
    The cost of charging will be over 20 times more for an EV than for combustion from RE/nuclear. The future is making fuel with 75% combustion, with CO2 and water capture, along with 900,000 mile life (60 years). No EV can begin to compete. Friendly hint.

    • @Brian-om2hh
      @Brian-om2hh Місяць тому +2

      You seem to have overlooked the fact that oil is a finite resource, and will run dry one day. Possibly in 25 to 30 years. You could sit around for 2 million years waiting for the next batch, although I'm not sure there's any point. No car makers here in Europe are designing any new ICE technology, because of the Euro 7 emissions laws due in 2025. Your post is utterly and completely pie in the sky.

    • @seaplaneguy1
      @seaplaneguy1 Місяць тому +2

      @@Brian-om2hh We can make it. In fact, if you want to get off oil and use EVs we will NEED to make oil from electricity and CO2
      RE fuels, oils, chemicals are all needed to get off fossil fuel oil..

    • @EbenBransome
      @EbenBransome Місяць тому +2

      In 1990 nobody had solved the problem of making large lithium battery arrays because the computing power needed for balancing etc. was just too expensive. And $30 million hasn't been able to buy a new ICE design for a very long time, it's peanuts in vehicle terms (same reason Aptera is going nowhere, it's a light aircraft on the ground and light aircraft development costs are through the roof since people don't like dying in them these days.) If you look at a lot of ICE designs they have been in development for over 25 years, and have just about caught up with WW2 aero engine technology (DI, 4 valve OHC, VVT).
      And there is *no* new combustion technology. The reason for the interest in hydrogen is that the only pollutants it produces other than a little burnt oil is NOx which means no particulate filter and a simple catalyst, and no EGR problems. Ammonia won't work as it is a highly toxic gas which hangs around for a long time. Any hydrocarbon produces particulates and some CO and so needs the whole cat/filter system and EGR carbon buildup. Hydrogen has its own problems, especially the need for a lithium battery since the fuel cell cannot turn on and off quickly.
      (Years ago we made a fuel cell for a school project. I've known about fuel cell lag since 1968.)
      That's why car makers have seen the future and it runs on electrons.

    • @AutoRebels
      @AutoRebels  Місяць тому +1

      @@EbenBransome Thanks for such a detailed and knowledgeable comment. 👍🏻

    • @seaplaneguy1
      @seaplaneguy1 Місяць тому

      @@EbenBransome Thanks for the thoughtful comment. Nice to have some engagement.
      Yes, lithium battery arrays are part of the story, but they have many issues that have not and cannot be resolved. Even with new battery chemistry, they are obsolete for MANY reasons.
      Aptera is not a valid design. 3 wheels are not valid and their crash strategy is not right. I did airbag sensors, modules, inflators, bags, sled test for airbags and I can say that airbags will not work with large weight differences, nor can the structures you allude to be made at low costs. I proposed a way to my former airbag employer, but they failed to understand the problem. Nothing Aptera has is worth the time. All a waste of money.
      As for new combustion, I am working on it, and it is way beyond anything you know about including F1. No electronics needed. All of the emissions issues are solved, and efficiencies are 75% in combined cycle, and 55-60% without combined cycle. CO2 and water captures are free with combined cycle running. It is also a solar thermal motor and a combustion heat pump with CO2 as the fluid. It has superior brake recovery to an EV also 75% vs EV at 56%. . Again, I am the engineer and inventor. I worked at Porsche Motorenbau and integrated airbag for all of Europe. Porsches gets this tech or goes out of business...
      This new combustion tech can be dropped into old ICE cars (like all Porsche cars) with a 4-5 x better MPG. Use old gas tank, instruments, brakes, pumps, etc. Take an old body in production, run barrier test to recalibrate sensors, drop new engine into production line, and take over the market with OLD car designs in production. Key is airbag sensor recalibration, which does require barrier tests due to the new vs old engine crash pulse.
      If GM had an exclusive, for example, they would own the auto market. All EVs will go bankrupt, including Tesla, Lucid, Rivian and all Chinese cars.
      I discuss this on X @seaplaneguy if you want more info. The tech is called NET (newenginetype . com)
      Literally, 3 engineers and me could take over the auto industry with NET. I work for free. All I am looking for is competent retired engineers (mechanical only) who want to have lots of fun. We make a deal. Get NET done in 3 years vs 12 and NET can go in all old ICE platforms. Get all manufactures in a room, set up coop and the world will use 4x less fuel in transit.
      NET works in 25% of the world economy and is scalable, recyclable, lights out manufacture, little rare earths, affordable, and needs no new infrastructure to get up to 75% to 90% of the fuel gone without any RE, using just gasoline or natural gas from house feeds. NET is net zero with RE fuels made with NET solar thermal and greenhouses with no sequestration to ground.
      NET works in: cars, trucks, boats, semi trucks, trackhoes, farm equipment, mining equipment, airplane from 3 place to 19 place, Large cargo airplanes (120,000 LB), housing power system, grid and more. 100s of new vehicles can be enable with NET that are not possible with old ICE or EV tech.
      NET does NOT replace jet engines. In airplanes, props are used with a speed limit of 330 kts (380 MPG). 25 MPH to 380 MPH door to door, all roadable with crash protection and wheel drives. Land and takeoff from road will be allowed (already checked with State).
      NET makes the CO2 issue a non problem for those who buy into the CO2 narrative. Net zero is possible without any taxes or restrictions. CO2 has many uses and NET is key to unplugging the CO2 agenda 2030.
      Looking for engineers who want to work and have lots of fun. Retired is preferred, willing to work for free until it make money. The business model can boot strap to much bigger than Tesla x 10...

  • @edwyncorteen1527
    @edwyncorteen1527 Місяць тому +1

    This is ancient news, long since fixed by a free over the air update.