Warcraft III Reforged: Undead Units Comparison (2002 VS 2020)

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  • Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
  • That's right, the undead video is finally here!
    While many of the textures look amazing, some of them don't feel very Warcrafty. Still, this is a ton better than the original obviously and it will be great for some TDs or Dota. ;p
    P.s. Arthas looks SIIICKKK
    ```Other comparison videos below```
    Burning Legion/Demons Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Naga Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Humans Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Orcs Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    All Units Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Night Elf Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Neutral Units (Creeps) Video:
    • Warcraft III Reforged:...
    Arthas Scourge Menu Screen Video:
    • Warcraft III: Reforged...

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  • @Starfals
    @Starfals  4 роки тому +64

    For more Warcraft 3 Reforged Comparisons and Cinematics check in the video Description / Reforged Playlist!

    • @langonthanhtinh6008
      @langonthanhtinh6008 4 роки тому +1

      Can you compare armies of exigo ????? Some one say this rip-off warcraft in 2004 was better than warcraft III Reforged

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      @@langonthanhtinh6008 I will check what you mean lol.

    • @justaguy8446
      @justaguy8446 4 роки тому +1

      Congrats on the channel growth!

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  3 роки тому +1

      @@justaguy8446 Thanks :P But it's not that much lol.
      Just mostly getting lucky with views cus people do like what i do, or look for the things that i make :P

  • @lanceandrew1319
    @lanceandrew1319 4 роки тому +412

    Bethesda: *ships an unfinished game
    Blizzard: *makes an 18 year old FINISHED game unfinished

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +27

      LOL, kind of funny and sad at the same time. I even made a video about that recently as well.. shame really

    • @CuriousDaeron
      @CuriousDaeron 4 роки тому +4

      How do you not understand this new business model. It's actually quite brilliant. First, they make an awesome game, make you fall in love with it. Second, they make you all nostalgic and release a 'Reforged' version (obviously they wont give everything you want at this point that would be just stupid). Three, they release a 'Repolished' version of the 'Reforged' version which was a 'Remake' of the original version. Ez money $$$

    • @rayoscrost
      @rayoscrost Рік тому +1

      @@CuriousDaeron you apparently don't get it. everyone knows that's what they're going for. it's the essence of the game that the players loved and is now ruined. hope you never become a game dev.

    • @zhaohuangsfm
      @zhaohuangsfm Рік тому

      ZUN: I always finish my games

  • @attilamolnar2649
    @attilamolnar2649 4 роки тому +518

    Arthas has some problems with his nervous system.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +42

      Probably that arrow from Sylvanas ;p It does wonders for his dancing lessons tho

    • @Alex4GamerYT
      @Alex4GamerYT 4 роки тому +1

      @@Starfals jajajajaja XD

    • @AbhishekNag666
      @AbhishekNag666 4 роки тому

      Loool

    • @ampmu6318
      @ampmu6318 4 роки тому +7

      He let his mount drank too much coffee

    • @liammcintosh6392
      @liammcintosh6392 4 роки тому +6

      No hes just vibbin

  • @Thiagosldark
    @Thiagosldark 4 роки тому +92

    For all devs and future devs, students take this as a lesson. Good graphics dont means anything if you dont have a good animation on the characters and personalities incorporate

    • @fredericoalves93
      @fredericoalves93 Рік тому +6

      Take off the nostalgia glasses buddy.

    • @grimrapper5202
      @grimrapper5202 Рік тому +6

      @@fredericoalves93 stop calling out people's taste when you unironically play hearthstone lmao

    • @Anuwabu
      @Anuwabu 2 місяці тому +1

      7:15 Someone doesn't even know how to properly loop an animation. Very sad.

  • @zarkulivirch6990
    @zarkulivirch6990 4 роки тому +436

    2020 models are well modeled but lack a lot in terms of effect and animation movements (arthas look like he want to go to the bathroom so bad xD)

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +11

      Hahaha, thats a new one. 10/10 for that joke lol

    • @adhamashraf9931
      @adhamashraf9931 4 роки тому +11

      This is still in beta, not the final version. this one still looks like its obviously missing some final polishing before release

    • @lucasmujica3084
      @lucasmujica3084 4 роки тому +9

      @@adhamashraf9931 and after release

    • @Kira-nr4rx
      @Kira-nr4rx 4 роки тому +1

      Warcraft 3: Refund

    • @tssdr9419
      @tssdr9419 4 роки тому +1

      Adham Ashraf “final polishing”, huh?

  • @jimmathin1669
    @jimmathin1669 4 роки тому +34

    2:53 dafuq is that idle animation

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      Reminds me sex lol

  • @ramen9141
    @ramen9141 4 роки тому +203

    2020 acolyte: classy, gentle coughing.
    2002 acolyte: coughing intensifies, has the plague, is dead inside,

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +20

      LOL so true XD The old one is almost gonna die from the plague

    • @garibaldibritann1240
      @garibaldibritann1240 4 роки тому +5

      "My life for Ner'zhul" and "Where is my lumpy still?" Are my favourite acolyte's quotes

    • @JuggerKnight717
      @JuggerKnight717 4 роки тому +7

      @@garibaldibritann1240 "Where shall my blood be spilled", you mean?

    • @garibaldibritann1240
      @garibaldibritann1240 4 роки тому

      @@JuggerKnight717 yes

  • @Heyoka86
    @Heyoka86 4 роки тому +560

    The originals were more expressive and had more personality with 30 times less polygons.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +50

      Because they used the few polygons that they had wisely and where they should. I swear, sometimes i dont even know what im looking at with the new models :P

    • @Wil_Dsense
      @Wil_Dsense 4 роки тому +1

      True shi t!

    • @zytha2890
      @zytha2890 4 роки тому +11

      @@Starfals the new ones do look way better though lol

    • @glennowen4940
      @glennowen4940 4 роки тому +5

      Because when low poly, to give out more detail, they use hand drawn texture, which usually use high color contrast to make up with the low poly.
      The reverse happen with high poly, since the poly is many, they pick less contrast color, much less black. The greyish and midtone is what makes it's harder to see and comprehend what you were seeing. The high poly that very messed up was at Bone Wyrm Building, very confusing.
      Nevertheless, both were good art.

    • @rokl1663
      @rokl1663 4 роки тому +2

      Fuck u that’s not true you purist

  • @dokilar1
    @dokilar1 3 роки тому +27

    I dont think anyone can argue the detail that was put into the models is impressive. They do look a lot better, the thing that irritates me the most is the lack of their animations and movement both in game and during in game cut scenes. They just sit there like chess pieces for the most part.
    They had such an amazing opportunity to remake one of the greatest RTS's of all time and instead further pissed off an already pissed off fan base.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  3 роки тому +2

      Indeed! Also, the art style for some models is waaays off from what it could have been. But that's all.
      Oh wait, also the promised remade campaigns ... i guess. But if we forget about that, it's just the art style and animations that are lacking. Most people keep complaining about the art, so it must be a big reason.
      The detail is there, so that cant be denied.
      P.s. Water is also lacking big time btw

  • @justinsmith9006
    @justinsmith9006 4 роки тому +421

    the old ones seem more lively and active then the new ones.

  • @bazzall2174
    @bazzall2174 4 роки тому +163

    not too much for 18 years

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +18

      Cus they are using the same WC3 engine from 2002 ;/ They cant do too much

    • @fakokero55
      @fakokero55 4 роки тому +5

      @@Starfals why they didnt used the engine from strarcraft 2?

    • @zachsutinen843
      @zachsutinen843 4 роки тому +5

      @@fakokero55 so there can be cross play between wc3 and wc3 reforged players with all the old maps still working, it's like the starcraft thing they did, just updated the graphics a wee bit

    • @troymigueldimacali9788
      @troymigueldimacali9788 4 роки тому +2

      This is literally looks like a custom map lmao

    • @zachsutinen843
      @zachsutinen843 4 роки тому +6

      @@troymigueldimacali9788 that's essentially what it is

  • @macbagie
    @macbagie 4 роки тому +170

    1:19 T H I C C

  • @gabrielwickander
    @gabrielwickander 4 роки тому +152

    3:16 Why is Arthas dancing to the rythm?

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +9

      Haha, i never noticed that! :D

    • @archravenineteenseventeen
      @archravenineteenseventeen 4 роки тому +1

      because he is now riding with the late invicible

    • @khaiphamba5991
      @khaiphamba5991 4 роки тому +7

      Really looks like he is beating his meat!

    • @onixlife8673
      @onixlife8673 4 роки тому

      Yep he is trying to fall a sleep since he close hes ayes xD

    • @tongdong7074
      @tongdong7074 4 роки тому

      Lol i thought the same

  • @Badmobileplayer
    @Badmobileplayer 4 роки тому +104

    Me in 2002: YASS THIS IS SO REALISTIC

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +16

      Same and also me when Half Life 1 came out in 1998

    • @WhoTfAmI_HuH688
      @WhoTfAmI_HuH688 4 роки тому

      @@Starfals 19s game/old games r better than most of the new one ;_;

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      @@WhoTfAmI_HuH688 True true :D i cant deny it

  • @taanielveltmann4399
    @taanielveltmann4399 4 роки тому +63

    They should've gone with the older shade design, the fact that he's actually a shade and not some weird spawn/venom mix

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +5

      For sure, it was more fitting and scary/creepy

  • @vadimushakov5883
    @vadimushakov5883 4 роки тому +12

    9:14 - the Classic one is crying, the Reforged one is vomiting... just like everyone's feelings about this games.

    • @l.e.b.3541
      @l.e.b.3541 3 роки тому

      Made the undead more melancholic than gross

  • @perrytheplatypus5437
    @perrytheplatypus5437 4 роки тому +71

    Looks pretty good to be honest ... if it was released in 2008.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +8

      XD Many good games came in 2008 actually

  • @starviper1813
    @starviper1813 4 роки тому +29

    I really like the new models, but I hope the idle animations make it into the game. It's nice whenever they do something silly cuz they've been idle for too long.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      Especially the orcs :D they got some funny ones

    • @blankabs7056
      @blankabs7056 4 роки тому +4

      i miss the footman drinking with his helmet still on

    • @openize1928
      @openize1928 4 роки тому

      thegame is still in development

    • @changolethal
      @changolethal Рік тому +1

      @@openize1928 2 years later and still in development?

  • @TheLordstrider
    @TheLordstrider 4 роки тому +18

    You Had One Job to do... and you blew it blizzard.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      They also blow China /hint hint

  • @InsidiousOne
    @InsidiousOne 4 роки тому +24

    *The new acolyte:* I should hire a professional designer to do this skull design on my robe
    *The old acolyte:* Screw it, I'll draw it myself

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Check my neutral creep unit comparison, it has the acolytes there to but, i compare them to the MOD of WC3. It has skulls there and its very good looking.

    • @l.e.b.3541
      @l.e.b.3541 3 роки тому

      Fancy robe - for a servant acolyte

  • @Necroionutwiz
    @Necroionutwiz 4 роки тому +80

    The first thing i expect to hear from Acolytes is ... The Damned stand ready! and Where shall my blood be spilled?

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 4 роки тому

      Uhhh... why would they need dam? They spread the plague with grain and not water

    • @heavysaber9431
      @heavysaber9431 4 роки тому +1

      @@justnoob8141 it would affect humans outside lordaeron direct control. Grains only affect huge villages, but if dam is plagued, then fishermen and isolated villagers can get plague from eating fish

    • @chimken_bot6625
      @chimken_bot6625 4 роки тому +1

      Just Noob it’s not the ‘dam’ goddammit. It’s referring to the ‘damned’ as in ppl that have been ‘damned’ to hell for doing bad things. The acolyte is just saying that all the ppl that were damned to hell stand ready

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 4 роки тому

      jaden yeoh soon meng pretty sure he already change from Dam to Damned by this point

    • @kogafifteen2679
      @kogafifteen2679 4 роки тому

      "My life for Ner'zhul!"

  • @Nix-281
    @Nix-281 4 роки тому +156

    Characters from 2002 has more interactive feel to them instead if the current ones

  • @Iv40
    @Iv40 4 роки тому +97

    The original is the best one to me. :>)

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +11

      Its more colorful and people love the original ones more :P

    • @Sanatoriumss
      @Sanatoriumss 4 роки тому +2

      holly true :)

    • @PhilShary
      @PhilShary 4 роки тому +1

      The units have been... CHINAFIED.

  • @herveglandu4847
    @herveglandu4847 4 роки тому +33

    Sorry Blizzard, not enougth to have my money.

    • @gordondave7956
      @gordondave7956 4 роки тому +2

      If you're up to join a group on discord, dedicated to playing the classic Warcraft 3 and we play nightly LAN games on bnet version 1.27 and 1.26 let me know, im staff in an upcoming great group of gamers who prefer the classic vs reforged. Let me know.

    • @sszarkk6054
      @sszarkk6054 4 роки тому

      @@gordondave7956 yes classic is much better then this Downgrade joke

    • @gordondave7956
      @gordondave7956 4 роки тому

      @@sszarkk6054 ok join the fb group and I'll link discord etc later TTYL I sleep

    • @gordondave7956
      @gordondave7956 4 роки тому

      @@sszarkk6054 facebook.com/groups/222778505419403/

    • @Wil_Dsense
      @Wil_Dsense 4 роки тому

      True shi t! we’re not gonna waste money on this sh it. Would rather throw the money down a drain....

  • @caretakercat7176
    @caretakercat7176 4 роки тому +18

    That lich was like
    2002 : a college student
    2020 : a college professor

  • @NicIsCopyRight
    @NicIsCopyRight 4 роки тому +17

    I've see more animation come from chess pieces then the reforged units
    EDIT: If you pay attention too, the animations for the reforged units are also on a loop. Smh.

  • @Bryan102ification
    @Bryan102ification 4 роки тому +10

    Old Blizzard: Guys, our game don't have the best textures but we put a lot of soul into it.
    New Blizzard: What's a soul? Forget the soul, put the price 60 dollars more than the original.
    Chinese company: $$$

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Chinese people only care about them money, its a fact. I honestly dont get it. They are more capitalist than America.. and they are communist haha.

  • @Chemicgen1
    @Chemicgen1 4 роки тому +86

    The original will always hold a special place in my heart ^_^ all those memories can never be replaced. Warcraft 3 Reign of Chaos and The Frozen Throne :D

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +4

      Yess! Its one of the best games ever, with the longest lasting gameplay too :P I still play it until this day

    • @Chemicgen1
      @Chemicgen1 4 роки тому

      @@Starfals EYYYY!!!! *HIGH FIVE* SAME HERE LOL! :D

    • @springslive85
      @springslive85 4 роки тому +6

      Even here...
      Reign of chaos and frozen throne were far better than world of Warcraft

    • @gordondave7956
      @gordondave7956 4 роки тому

      If you're up to join a group on discord, dedicated to playing the classic Warcraft 3 and we play nightly LAN games on bnet version 1.27 and 1.26 let me know, im staff in an upcoming great group of gamers who prefer the classic vs reforged. Let me know. We also have a Facebook too. Please join
      facebook.com/groups/222778505419403/

    • @joelgrebinsilvestri
      @joelgrebinsilvestri 4 роки тому

      @@Starfals do u recommend it play the 2020 version or frozen throne? because i wanted to play warcraft again and i dont play the game since 2002

  • @toonzsw8184
    @toonzsw8184 4 роки тому +91

    Me clicks on a crate
    Arthas: YOUR PAIN SHALL BE LEGENDARY!!!

  • @Vesemer_Sairo
    @Vesemer_Sairo 4 роки тому +74

    After seeing all the game clips of reforged version all I can say its not a good upgrade IMO. sorry blizzard.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +6

      Yea, because they just had to do what they did with Starcraft 1. Just copy it and make it HD. They felt like redoing it.. remaking it or whatever. Making a "new" game on top of the old one. Som things look good but yea, not all is perfect and you can see it

    • @xanderguldie
      @xanderguldie 4 роки тому

      They should've just made an new game. Heck, I think that they could've kept going after Warcraft 3. By now we could've been at Warcraft 10 lol.

    • @Vesemer_Sairo
      @Vesemer_Sairo 4 роки тому

      goin back on my comment now look what happen as predicted the reforged sucks ua-cam.com/video/gui2AqOfVwA/v-deo.html

  • @JustAStupidBear
    @JustAStupidBear 4 роки тому +91

    The artwork lost some sort of humour, only more darkness

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +11

      Yea, it got more realistic thats why

    • @cactuscoe9096
      @cactuscoe9096 4 роки тому +12

      I feel the opposite, it's less dark and more bright.
      The Abomination's leg is no longer deformed, the Altar of Darkness is a crowned skeleton instead of a mysterious unknown dead cultist, and the skulls overall look more "alive" and aggressive and less dark, empty, grim and void.
      The buildings are no longer desecrated/repurposed human buildings but have their own style (Crypt, Graveyard).

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 4 роки тому

      Am I the only one who doesn't like the Panda glaives of the Demon Hunters?

    • @dexterjohnsuperable3965
      @dexterjohnsuperable3965 4 роки тому

      GOD BEAR, that's true. Darkness has been highlighted.

    • @doomguy5410
      @doomguy5410 3 роки тому

      @@ammagon4519 They are horrible

  • @Cykk0
    @Cykk0 4 роки тому +25

    some upgrades i felt looked quite reasonable, like lich/kel, also the transition of arthas seemed to flow abit better.
    but some units were upgraded too much, i mean acolytes and necromancers are like your workers and early units, they shouldnt be dressed all gaudy and look like an advanced unit... the previous polygon count kinda gave you an instinctive idea on how important or threatening some units were by visual cues.
    then there's the color, some units had too much detailed areas that they lost alot of colour coded areas to easily identify which team they should be on

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      Thats a good point! They look as if they are the leaders of the race LOL.

    • @gabzsy4924
      @gabzsy4924 4 роки тому +1

      You like the new Kel/Lich? The fuck man, that's the worst adaptation out of all of the units, even worst than death knight Arthas constipated face.

    • @fenrirsrage4609
      @fenrirsrage4609 4 роки тому

      I feel the same way with the new Footmen tbh.
      Just bleh, they look to fancy for my tastes and god those huge pauldrons

  • @yillith
    @yillith 4 роки тому +27

    New ones looks like assets to some mobile game.
    Craftwar: Shadow Legends

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому

      Haha, everyone keeps saying that LOL

  • @enariken8758
    @enariken8758 4 роки тому +6

    0:25 well the new one looks more badass than any heroes

    • @Lapantouflemagic0
      @Lapantouflemagic0 Рік тому

      exactly what i thought. it's a damn cultist, not the lich king himself, why is his attire richer that most heroes ?

    • @serioussilliness2064
      @serioussilliness2064 Рік тому

      Yah frfr

  • @addicted2water69
    @addicted2water69 4 роки тому +23

    2:55 why is the statue humping the floor

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +4

      That's a fitting questing for a person with ur name xD! ( I cant answer sadly lol)

  • @DallyLama93
    @DallyLama93 4 роки тому +17

    Vanilla was actually disturbing to look at. Reforge is just plastic

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Indeed, its kind of creepy and Reforged never gives me that feel

  •  4 роки тому +4

    I like 2002 better

  • @nail222
    @nail222 4 роки тому +89

    After watching this. I just feel sadness rather than excitement... Feels like the higher ups are pushing employees to rush everything. The details are good but there's no distinction between heroes and mobs... Color as a whole doesn't have the scourge feel idk maybe its just me. Anyways just my personal opinion. Still a good job done so far considering such a short time

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +11

      They had a very short time to do this, it didn't take 18 years, it took them 1 and a bit more from what i hear. I wish they had more time to do more however, this is not enough. You are not exactly wrong, many people said a similar thing so there must be some truth to it :P

    • @heavysaber9431
      @heavysaber9431 4 роки тому

      there's a reason why it's still beta in the first place, it's to get feedback from the users. Things are bound to change for sure, like animations and lip sync. I don't know about bad models though, the new Jaina doesn't look good with those cheekbones.

    • @bowowoy803
      @bowowoy803 4 роки тому

      @@heavysaber9431 what about now? Do you regret it?

    • @heavysaber9431
      @heavysaber9431 4 роки тому

      @@bowowoy803 I regret nothing because I didn't even buy reforged in the first place lmao, sucks to be a gullible buyer no?

    • @abcdc197
      @abcdc197 4 роки тому

      @@heavysaber9431 "Things are going to change, it's just beta" You were saying? To some extent i wish you were right. But sadly beta for Blizzard is not to improve game just promote it. They NEVER fix anything in beta. Even when there are gamebraking bugs they release then after months of complaint they patch it. Not just for wc3 but wow as well.

  • @lawgx9819
    @lawgx9819 4 роки тому +33

    Why does the old one looks better than the new one?
    Is this one of those less is more situation?

    • @resolutionblaze363
      @resolutionblaze363 4 роки тому +4

      No, its just you literally needing glasses and having a garbage opinion?

    • @ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP
      @ThereisNOpandemicWAKEUP 4 роки тому +15

      ​@@resolutionblaze363 DUDE. the quality of the reforged models are obviously better. But they are seriously lacking in effects. As many of these youtube comments say, they are less lively/active. Which is a darn shame.

    • @necmettinarmutcu3626
      @necmettinarmutcu3626 4 роки тому +11

      @@resolutionblaze363 my glasses are on and Im a character designer, the models are beautiful but you cant forget that this is a game, the models need to have distinctive features and readability not just fancy details which you wont see 99.99% of the time. Amazing models but terrible for a strategy game especially since the mobs and heroes almost look the same lol

    • @zytha2890
      @zytha2890 4 роки тому

      @@trm245 low polygons do that
      Because there are low polygons it's *going* to have a point of interest

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      @@trm245 1 thing is for sure, the colors and contrast are off. That alone makes the original look better. Also the whole game has a blurry vibe at times. Even with AA off, it still feels 20% reduced.
      When it comes to the models i wont comment, people can see that for themselves

  • @lysersalvador6116
    @lysersalvador6116 4 роки тому +6

    It's just doesn't look and feel right that they removed some effects? -- Like the purple light from the banshee and the wringling plasma from the zigurrat? The structural details look better now though, even though they still look unfinished. But they look more scary and demonic now, which is a good thing, I guess. 🤔
    Anyway, Nyx Assassin looks really cool! 😊 And also the beetle and destroyer. I like it!
    But what the hell happened to Arthas? 😂

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Nyx is amazing indeed! He looks perfect at least lol. Dont ask about Arthas haha :P
      Btw, some of the effects were added later on, this was in the beta, so the final version looks better now :)

  • @AbhikShrestha
    @AbhikShrestha 4 роки тому +26

    1:16 EXTRA THICCC

  • @ophois9265
    @ophois9265 4 роки тому +23

    8:30
    Interesting re-design. Now this obsidian guy looks like a hybrid of Summerian deity Lamassu and Egyptian god Anpu.

    • @fotismanolopoulos1098
      @fotismanolopoulos1098 4 роки тому +1

      I prefer it from the weird thing the old one was

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 4 роки тому

      Ngl I don't like the old one, it looks creepy and he has that "I raped your wife last night lmao" smile.

  • @hieunguyen-qp1gm
    @hieunguyen-qp1gm 4 роки тому +2

    chinaese style

    • @Zaeboshi
      @Zaeboshi 4 роки тому +1

      like a donate mobile game 😳

  • @nicogaming271
    @nicogaming271 4 роки тому +8

    2020 reforge is like a rich kid with all money and stuff trying to be 2002 original one. Graphics and details looks great but for me it seems doesn’t get the characters.

  • @onixlife8673
    @onixlife8673 4 роки тому +10

    Some units are beather some are not i dont like dragons, and champions with no aura color...

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      They just added some auras now :) dont worry, but its still less than before

    • @BattleBladeWarrior
      @BattleBladeWarrior 4 роки тому

      And what the hell happened to the shade? Where's the shadowy myst that descends from his spinal column? he looks silly just floating there all naked

  • @darkoldage
    @darkoldage 4 роки тому +33

    I don't know about you but I think the way the reforged didn't quite captured the feeling of war3 in aesthetics(I'm not criticizing it,it looks awesome) to me.Like the original Arthas looks better to me than the re one,same for the necromancer.

    • @darkoldage
      @darkoldage 4 роки тому +7

      @Mr Bleach Maybe,but a remaster's job is to recapture the that times when the game was released.that is what the fans wanted

    • @paolovital3751
      @paolovital3751 4 роки тому +1

      @Mr Bleach A remaster's job is actually pretty subjective, both of you are neither wrong on what you believe and I agree with both of you, let's just wait until the game is actually released, most of this is still subject to change anyways

    • @Die__Ene
      @Die__Ene 4 роки тому

      Even if they tried to precisely copy WC3 without trying to improve anything, it still wouldn't feel right - the game would be build on a modern platform; it would run too smoothly, edges would be too clear, animations would be too smooth, lightning wouldnt be right etc. I'm all for shitting on Blizzard but you cannot realistically expect to get the same feeling as when you play(ed) the original WC3. Play Reforged for pure gameplay (assuming it's more polished and better looking than the original when it releases), play the original Warcraft 3 for feelings.

    • @maxkorinev4550
      @maxkorinev4550 4 роки тому

      they make wrong colors, like with Arthas cloak, etc, alot of luminous things are disappeared, and some shapes of buildings have changed with another models like "entrence" etc, some objectes fill with colors that is not in original w3 so they miss this details and we feel it

    • @Zarryon12
      @Zarryon12 4 роки тому +1

      I like the new Arthas better. He looks more terrifying honestly and more of what he should pre lich king. The older model reminded me too much of a 90s cartoon villain....half expected him to pull a skeletor. NYEH!!

  • @ericstaples7220
    @ericstaples7220 4 роки тому +55

    Let's put the same shoulder pads on everything, even some of the buildings.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 4 роки тому

      To be honest, orc buildings did have a lot of them

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +5

      Thats the blizzard way :) Giant shoulders for everyone!

  • @Nidstang_
    @Nidstang_ 4 роки тому +17

    The original's refresh animations are so much smoother.

  • @Twenty4Eagle
    @Twenty4Eagle 4 роки тому +16

    18 years between these 2. Holy crap, time flies without even thinking about it.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      For sure, i still play the normal Warcraft 3, and it feels like yesterday when it came out xD

    • @Twenty4Eagle
      @Twenty4Eagle 4 роки тому +1

      @@Starfals it sure does! The first blizzard game i bought was Diablo 1 in 1997. Blizzard is the best when it comes to gaming, most popular until this day and will be for many years to come. I can only see success with Wc3 reforged. The only company that can compete with Blizzard when it comes to gaming culture is Valve.

  • @erospeque
    @erospeque 4 роки тому +7

    Why do all new designs have so much armor?!

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      Good question actually

    • @fotismanolopoulos1098
      @fotismanolopoulos1098 4 роки тому

      Because a bunch of paladins and everyone against them and rebellion against demon hordes and a bunch of others. THEY'LL NEED IT

    • @ammagon4519
      @ammagon4519 4 роки тому

      @@fotismanolopoulos1098 I mean the Acolyte looks very armored, even though its main purpose is to build.

    • @fotismanolopoulos1098
      @fotismanolopoulos1098 4 роки тому

      @@ammagon4519 i know,but it could be worse. I actually like the redesign just because of the difference. Also,like,they are not idiots,they know they might be attacked and an unarmoured villager is supposed to die in 1 hit soo,i think it makes sense for them to wear some armour.

  • @pervysage5465
    @pervysage5465 4 роки тому +9

    3:45
    Look at the Reforged Death Knight while listening to "What is love"

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Hahaha yea, other noticed that too lol
      WHAT IS LOVE?! BABY DONT HURT MEee..

  • @romanianrambo
    @romanianrambo 4 роки тому +6

    Honestly I har higher expectations for 18 years of tech improvements

  • @DanialWang
    @DanialWang 4 роки тому +21

    Didn't know azeroth resided in the USA.

    • @YukitoOnline
      @YukitoOnline 4 роки тому +3

      Make Azeroth Great Again

    • @darkstar2872
      @darkstar2872 4 роки тому +1

      Azeroth is USA east, lordaeron is USA west
      At least according to the battle net server list.

  • @ayremember2900
    @ayremember2900 4 роки тому +10

    Screw this, we need a WC4 already

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      It is about time we get it, but with WoW still being a thing.. i dont know if WC4 will ever happen

    • @Vesemer_Sairo
      @Vesemer_Sairo 4 роки тому

      kinda agree with NAGA full playable race I think its better, I don't really quite get in the 1st place why NAGA are not playable on FT multiplayer?

    • @PwnCrackers
      @PwnCrackers 4 роки тому +1

      i think people were already asking for wc4 for the past 10 years, but blizzard doesn't seem to care about rts games anymore.
      heck, they didn't even bother to improve WoW in terms of graphics.

  • @MagnusNex
    @MagnusNex 4 роки тому +7

    Arthas looks like he's about to cry. ROFL

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      He found out how low the score of Reforged is.. :P (check my last video about it, the 1 with the lies xD)

    • @qjoselp71
      @qjoselp71 4 роки тому

      Fuck you

  •  4 роки тому +2

    New models are very detailed and nice but lack of the charm and personality of the originals.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому

      Kind of ye, the charm is indeed lost to me as well.

  • @SUuperCLasSH
    @SUuperCLasSH 4 роки тому +5

    For a 2020 game, the graphics are disappointing

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Engine from 2002, they can only do so much in a short time.. but ye, it doesnt really look all that great (but it aint ugly either)

    • @fotismanolopoulos1098
      @fotismanolopoulos1098 4 роки тому

      They also want it to be available to as much PC quality as possible because MONEY

  • @KALT7
    @KALT7 4 роки тому +2

    14:20 *Game of thrones!*

  • @Haggysack2k8
    @Haggysack2k8 4 роки тому +8

    1:15 Well and the Monstrosities got some HD ass. I mean, why not, seems total legitimate to me.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      You should see the new video that i just made :D the harpy's got some real sexy butts

  • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
    @ChineseNinjaWarrior 4 роки тому +2

    They have destroyed a master piece of a game. You can see that Blizzard today is not the same Blizzard it was 20 years ago.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Its not the same because their old people left awhile ago. Their president is also gone. He was such a sweet man, just wanting to make happy everyone.. unlike the new President of BLizz.

  • @domidium
    @domidium 4 роки тому +6

    The look the old lich gave the first new one was like "Really? THAT'S what you're going for?"

  • @darchgaming5844
    @darchgaming5844 4 роки тому +2

    The models from 2002 have a special charm to them that the 2020 models lack complety

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Cus its an asian game now, check my last video about it.

  • @talibrigamangundaojr.9311
    @talibrigamangundaojr.9311 4 роки тому +10

    Old ones will always be the best

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Sure, nobody can take that away from us :) there will be option to use the old ones

    • @jollyhotdog2641
      @jollyhotdog2641 4 роки тому

      If it wasn't for the old ones the new ones wouldn't look that awesome ❤️

    • @bukejakely154
      @bukejakely154 4 роки тому +1

      @@jollyhotdog2641 the new ones look like they belong in a shitty Chinese mmo

    • @veneficus582
      @veneficus582 4 роки тому

      The news ones are way better. What's the point of playing it if you're going to play with the old models xD

    • @bukejakely154
      @bukejakely154 4 роки тому

      @@veneficus582 that's your opinion. But for me and many others the old ones are better

  • @budwyzer77
    @budwyzer77 4 роки тому +2

    It's as if Activision surgically removed all the charm from Warcraft 3.

    • @franko1441
      @franko1441 3 роки тому

      Rip Warcraft 3 man this new new is really shet

  • @snakesmusicnuggets9295
    @snakesmusicnuggets9295 4 роки тому +6

    Better than the job that starcraft remastered done. Still a lot of cool stuffs got removed. Like some particle effects and transparent textures

  • @doncomedia7927
    @doncomedia7927 4 роки тому +2

    Theres pretty good models but the textures are a little underdeveloped they end up looking like action figures ....

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Looks a bit plasticy at time ye

  • @derekzhu
    @derekzhu 4 роки тому +5

    Disappointing. I decided to buy after the trailer but changed my mind now.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      You will make blizzard hate me :D

    • @aleksandr8493
      @aleksandr8493 4 роки тому

      I'm buying it not for "ultra new models" but for fixed multiplayer and future cybersport tounaments. And I have weak computer so low requirments are also a huge benefit for me.

  • @clarkb2697
    @clarkb2697 4 роки тому +1

    Some of the models look better but most are just unpolished.
    Why the hell does the lich suddenly have two chests suspended above him like he's one of the Marley bros from a scrooge play

  • @deodatlawson8877
    @deodatlawson8877 4 роки тому +3

    Lets be honest back in 2003 when WC3 was released that graphics was considered fking amazing and now in 2020 sure it looks cooler but by our standards it’s alright I’d say also I can’t believe the cinematic and cutscenes in WC3 is still more lively and emotional than WC3 reforged

  • @drdoomyo
    @drdoomyo 4 роки тому +1

    You should compare from RTS view perspective. This is where 2020 fails. 2002 were easily spotted.

  • @scheisseamdampfen
    @scheisseamdampfen 4 роки тому +3

    The wings from the frostwyrms are waaay to small.
    In classic they look like a real wyrm, huge and majestic knowing these things cost everything you have but they have the highest dmg...

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Indeed. It is the only thing that bothers me with the new frostwyrm. They recently said why btw.. because it was blocking gameplay and the screen so they had to make them small and dumb.

    • @bassmelodies1592
      @bassmelodies1592 2 роки тому

      Dude.... looks like a flying dog that hasn't eaten in decades with wings.🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @Dragilav1
    @Dragilav1 4 роки тому +3

    5:51 dreadlord 😱

  • @ccommit9049
    @ccommit9049 4 роки тому +5

    The designer of this game in the last 20 yrs were more skilled than this year.

  • @666222333111
    @666222333111 4 роки тому +18

    hmm i dont like how they f up wait animations. like on old models when mob is standing still hes doing some moves with his hands or whatever but in the newer version wait animations are the most simple thing u can do.. kinda disappointing considering its 2019 and it takes like 3-4 minutes to do wait animation since the hardest part to do is usually walking... ehh.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      Yepp, i hope they add more.. maybe its a beta thing? U never know :(

    • @Die__Ene
      @Die__Ene 4 роки тому +2

      Presumably the beta or modelviewer software - whatever the uploader used - only has the standard idle animation, a lot of them even lacked any animations or had them timed incorrectly. I'm sure there will be more variations after release, an RTS game needs a good amount of unique movements on units in order to keep everything visible and distinguished, Blizzard knows that.

    • @666222333111
      @666222333111 4 роки тому

      @@Die__Ene I would ASSUME you have to load a model straight from the client and it should grab all the animations with it.. I mean it should I don't actually know nothing about back-end of WC3 or anything related.
      I wouldn't say animations are that important in a RTS game maybe expect heroes and buildings because in an open battle you don't really pay attention to those things. You think fast act fast. It's not like you're standing there in a middle of the game looking at what way the guy is swinging hes toes or whatever.. but maybe I'm wrong.

  • @weirdoengineerinUK
    @weirdoengineerinUK 4 роки тому +6

    I wouldn’t call the graphics good without seeing some abomination ass i think. Necessary detail i guess ?

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Hah, absolutely !

    • @BattleBladeWarrior
      @BattleBladeWarrior 4 роки тому

      I'm sad that the stitches and pink flesh and fresh guts aren't there BUT, I think they made a a great call on the redesign, with the flesh all purple and dead looking, and even the guts look coagulated instead of fresh. adds to the realism. The seige wagon though, what the hell happened?! Why is it so clean????? Wheres all the blood? and why are the spikes on the wheel reduced?

  • @lloydmaersk
    @lloydmaersk 4 роки тому +5

    detail looks great, especially that pudge's a$$

  • @stringstorm
    @stringstorm 4 роки тому +4

    Hmm.. Upclose, they look really great. But what about when you're zoomed out and controlling a bunch of these units at once? I feel like its suffering the same thing SC2 had where units had so much detail on them that it gets hard to pick out which unit is what when zoomed out.
    I don't play multiplayer or competitive stuff so this isn't a problem for me so I'm really excited for this one.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Yep, it might be hard to read whats going on. U got a good point. At least it looks good xD

  • @SMABackup
    @SMABackup 4 роки тому +7

    Is there even one single person who's happy about the inclusion of female death knights?

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +4

      Yea, the Wow players seem to love it, i dont however lol. Im a Wow player too, but i dont think it fits for Warcraft 3.

    • @SMABackup
      @SMABackup 4 роки тому

      @@Starfals 100% agreed

    • @zachsutinen843
      @zachsutinen843 4 роки тому +1

      Why would you be unhappy about that???

    • @SMABackup
      @SMABackup 4 роки тому

      @@zachsutinen843 I only want a male death knight, that's why

    • @zachsutinen843
      @zachsutinen843 4 роки тому +2

      @@SMABackup very Chinese government of you

  • @ss_non1381
    @ss_non1381 4 роки тому +4

    I love the old majestic Frost wyrm than the little skeleton dragon in a reforged version 😂😂

  • @Lapantouflemagic0
    @Lapantouflemagic0 Рік тому +2

    seems to me they really forgot about readability. maybe that's because my brain is looking for the original icons, but i can't see what the hell are half of the new ones. also the glow on the heroes, the miplaced amount of detail on a damn cultist, the dark cloud of the shade, the helmet on the skeleton that is the surest way to make it not look like a skeleton etc...
    so... meh. the old War3 is still perfectly fine to me.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  Рік тому +2

      Indeed, thats actually my biggest problem. Readability. I can barely tell whos fighting who, or what icon is doing what. I like some of the new icons, cus they are higher ress, as in less blurry... but some other are totally changed and new.
      Also, some heroes and units have more realistic looks, so that makes them smaller.. which makes it hard to see them. Finally someone wrote a comment that's exactly my problem with the game haha!

  • @maxkorinev4550
    @maxkorinev4550 4 роки тому +4

    they make wrong colors, like with Arthas cloak, etc, alot of luminous things are disappeared, and some shapes of buildings have changed with another models like "entrence" etc, some objectes fill with colors that is not in original w3 so they missed this details and we feel it

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Yep, but still not a horrible remake.

  • @gauravsingh_1501
    @gauravsingh_1501 4 роки тому +13

    Well, you have to evolve. So, it's fine with the new ones. But the former units will always have a special attachment

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      For sure, they will always have a place in my heart. People love the old models

  • @KonstantinPochinkov
    @KonstantinPochinkov 4 роки тому +5

    the sizing of nearly all units is not correct, from top down they look totally different and that's why I prefer the old graphics... Also because of the bad shading, there is something wrong with the colors.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +4

      Colors are very wrong, but i guess they wanted those new pale colors ;/

  • @sdrowsdrawkcab2098
    @sdrowsdrawkcab2098 4 роки тому +1

    Honestly some of the buildings and more static stuff looks great, but goooooooooood some of the units are so bad!

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      I agree, they look great, but also some of them look kind of baad lol

  • @MAiman-do6it
    @MAiman-do6it 4 роки тому +13

    Warcraft III is a man of culture now
    i mean, he's 18 now

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Finally an adult ;p

  • @platonian2421
    @platonian2421 4 роки тому +4

    3:56
    Old Arthas: You having a seizure or something?

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      XD He probably saw the review scores

  • @zhihong0321
    @zhihong0321 4 роки тому +3

    willing to pay for another expansion
    not this crap

    • @gordondave7956
      @gordondave7956 4 роки тому

      If you're up to join a group on discord, dedicated to playing the classic Warcraft 3 and we play nightly LAN games on bnet version 1.27 and 1.26 let me know, im staff in an upcoming great group of gamers who prefer the classic vs reforged. Let me know. We also have a Facebook too. Please join
      facebook.com/groups/222778505419403/

  • @benjaminben11
    @benjaminben11 4 роки тому +7

    they coudnt make warcraft 4 instead ?

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

      We all wanted that but i guess it wont happen anytime soon

    • @benjaminben11
      @benjaminben11 4 роки тому +1

      @@Starfals sure blizzard is no more blizzard their not able to do better than wc3

    • @SMILE53335
      @SMILE53335 4 роки тому

      @@benjaminben11 lol there is no sense to make WC4

    • @ferencmeszaros9087
      @ferencmeszaros9087 4 роки тому

      Wc4 no lore anymore. There is in book or WoW.

  • @blinkmuch
    @blinkmuch 4 роки тому +8

    Damn they really made scourge look proper scary, with these models.

    • @justnoob8141
      @justnoob8141 4 роки тому +1

      People hate it because they look scarier than derpier

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому

      @@justnoob8141 The ghoul looks kind of funny tho ;p

  • @alexisnaranjo
    @alexisnaranjo 4 роки тому +2

    I think you gotta do another video my dude

  • @aciSd
    @aciSd 4 роки тому +3

    shade looks better in the original wc3 - just as the catapult. so thrashy.. necromancer though.. looks epic.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Shade looks good in WoW too, idk why they ruin it here

  • @cesaru3619
    @cesaru3619 4 роки тому +2

    yeah fanboy the models are better but the overall game is still REFUNDED

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +1

      Hah ye, it doesn't even work for me atm... im waiting for a patch. Refunding didnt work either LOL.
      I also made a video about it, one of the mast ones ;p

  • @yuch1102
    @yuch1102 4 роки тому +9

    a lot of these is just off, I don't know how to describe it. The abomination, one of the most recognizable features is it's big right eye sticking out, and the new one it is gone. The ghoul is hunched over in old one, now it is standing much straighter. Also the ghoul's face should resemble a skull. The shade just looks completely off. They did good job with buildings though.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +4

      Yep, same problems with the other races as well. Many things are off, as if they dont want to copy the old style and visuals ;/

    • @grantmoore9753
      @grantmoore9753 4 роки тому

      the old graphics used a gelatoneous style movement for some undead the new graphics do not so things like the abominations shoulder muscle twitches basically dont exist makes it look less real imo

  • @libertyprime7871
    @libertyprime7871 4 роки тому +3

    Classic skeletons are so much cuter. Unlike these from typical "dark Souls or some other game with skeletons"

  • @Starfals
    @Starfals  4 роки тому +3

    Btw 2020 release date, it was just announced :) I KNEW IT! :D :D

  • @koxacbka
    @koxacbka Рік тому +1

    even though the graphics became better (which is understandable due to progress of technology).... i feel like that i like original versions more in most of cases. especially i don't like those oversised pauldrons on low tier utits like cultists. they are more appropriate for heroes or high-tier units

  • @williamwalker57
    @williamwalker57 4 роки тому +7

    I hope Life of a peasant comes back... I love that game lol

    • @emmon1725
      @emmon1725 4 роки тому

      hell yeah! i miss that game.

    • @grantmoore9753
      @grantmoore9753 4 роки тому

      custom games is out in beta not my kinda game but ive seen it hosted a few times.

  • @Sgtnolisten
    @Sgtnolisten 4 роки тому +4

    Graveyard could do without the eyes in the doorway. That seems more haunted house of fun instead of structure for an army to wipe the planet clean

  • @darkreality1722
    @darkreality1722 4 роки тому +3

    0:50 The new ghoul disgusted me.

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      Yea lol, i think thats what they wanted to do :P

  • @GreatOne_1
    @GreatOne_1 4 роки тому +2

    wtf, if you look in 20years, wc3 classic is better... Reforged have JUST better textures.. hah im playing classic!!!

    • @Starfals
      @Starfals  4 роки тому +2

      You can still use the old classic graphics :P They added an option and i do think the original ones are more warcrafty :P

    • @GreatOne_1
      @GreatOne_1 4 роки тому

      @@Starfals yes but, old gold bro