Beginner with $10,000+ LIGHTS vs PRO with ZERO Lights

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  •  4 роки тому +469

    Nice stuff. I also wanted to see pro with lighting in the end.

    • @GustavoOio
      @GustavoOio 4 роки тому +6

      Me too

    • @MrCharlamagne
      @MrCharlamagne 3 роки тому +1

      Me too

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому +1

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @phucmapvlog
    @phucmapvlog 4 роки тому +325

    Let’s try PRO vs Beginner BRoll next!

    • @JPSanders
      @JPSanders 4 роки тому +6

      Agreed!

    • @bienveqe
      @bienveqe 3 роки тому +3

      Oh right !

    • @Shardul22G
      @Shardul22G 3 роки тому +3

      I want that !!

    • @8BlOCKENT
      @8BlOCKENT 3 роки тому +2

      Most definitely!

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому +1

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @DebzLife
    @DebzLife 4 роки тому +177

    Next:
    *_Pro with kit lens vs Beginner with many expensive lenses._*
    *_I think both should do it on an APSC mirrorless camera.. such as the Sony a6500 or the Canon M50._*

    • @gerson3jg828
      @gerson3jg828 4 роки тому +2

      x2

    • @videneikha268
      @videneikha268 4 роки тому +4

      Lol they have already done a video beginner with red cinema camera vs Jake with Canon SL2.

    • @DebzLife
      @DebzLife 4 роки тому +10

      @@videneikha268 I know. My comment is not about the camera, it's about the lens.
      My idea is that both of them will use a beginner camera, but the beginner gets to use many expensive lenses, whereas the pro only gets the kit lens.

    • @sanjeetswain7112
      @sanjeetswain7112 4 роки тому +2

      Same here, i have A6300 with kitlens

    • @writtentruthproductions
      @writtentruthproductions 4 роки тому

      Good One!!!

  • @PhuongDo12
    @PhuongDo12 4 роки тому +35

    Keep making the beginner vs pro series please, they're so so good and useful!!

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @HornetKingOfficial
    @HornetKingOfficial 4 роки тому +72

    I really enjoy your film making content, Parker. You have a real gift in explaining and articulating your tutorials and have been a true inspiration in my stepping up my production value on my channel! Thank you for all you guys do and your great tips!

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @yossishapiro57
    @yossishapiro57 4 роки тому +363

    Next competition: "Beginner with EXPENSIVE GIMBALS and SLIDERS vs PRO HANDHELD!"

  • @boubacar233diallo
    @boubacar233diallo 4 роки тому +14

    Man this guy Parker is on a new level. He spots everything lol. Also wearing a white shirt to create dimensions is a smooth tip i didn't thought about

    • @joshzaring
      @joshzaring 4 роки тому +3

      yeah man, the way he describes every little detail is on a much more professional level than the “big youtubers”

  • @JanRaymondCortez
    @JanRaymondCortez 4 роки тому +300

    The pro should have been able to used at least a reflector or something that can bounced light.

    • @RyanLennoxBradley
      @RyanLennoxBradley 4 роки тому +6

      I agree

    • @TohPhimmasenh
      @TohPhimmasenh 4 роки тому +23

      Yeah i thought he was gonna do that, idk if its against the rules, or he just didn't think of that

    • @got2beable
      @got2beable 4 роки тому +15

      I like that he didnt use a reflector it just shows the pure way to take something without any equipment needed. Just the camera

    • @JakeWeisler
      @JakeWeisler 4 роки тому +8

      Mainly wanted to do it with ZERO tools to prove the point but yeah I definitely wanted to use a reflector haha

    • @AbhaySharda
      @AbhaySharda 4 роки тому +1

      @@got2beable almost everybody's first buy after the camera is the reflector. It's the most basic tool that comes handy all the time, diffusing the light or blocking it or reflecting it.

  • @MarkHBaker
    @MarkHBaker 4 роки тому +20

    On Jake's skit, perhaps a simple fix would have been to have the two actors trade sides, putting Landon with the lighter shirt on the side where the background is darker.

  • @TheTylerRossmann
    @TheTylerRossmann 4 роки тому +41

    Some ideas! Pro with kit lens vs Beginner with unlimited lens choices. Pro with cheap/small drone (like the DJI Spark) vs Beginner with expensive drone (like the DJI Inspire 2). Pro with no SFX website library use (has to make own SFX to include in their video) vs Beginner with unlimited SFX website library (like Musicbed, Soundstripe, etc.). Pro only handheld vs Beginner with unlimited gimbals/stabilizers/sliders. Pro with no audio recorder/mic vs Beginner with unlimited audio.

  • @HawksNestYT
    @HawksNestYT 4 роки тому +26

    I just want to point out that shot from Parker looks incredible. Lighting, angle, CC/CG, etc

    • @nathan-lewis
      @nathan-lewis 3 роки тому +6

      Except for the massive glare from the light in the window... lol

    • @turtrenolds7167
      @turtrenolds7167 3 роки тому

      Damn u here

    • @depresso5594
      @depresso5594 3 роки тому +1

      Damn hawk,wat you doing here?!

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому +1

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

  • @pkplayz7711
    @pkplayz7711 4 роки тому +41

    Video colour grading: beginner with high end software vs professional with recomended beginner software.
    Might be the food idea I thought ao

    • @writtentruthproductions
      @writtentruthproductions 4 роки тому +2

      YES!!!

    • @gustavwarming5177
      @gustavwarming5177 4 роки тому +1

      @@writtentruthproductions Pretty sure they did that already!
      Go look up their beginner on premier pro vs. pro on IMovie

    • @writtentruthproductions
      @writtentruthproductions 4 роки тому

      @@gustavwarming5177 Yeah the did an editing one, but what about one focusing 100 percent on color??

    • @TeabaggEditing
      @TeabaggEditing 4 роки тому

      With this series they want to show beginners that they don't need expensive gear in order to do professional video. When it comes to software you can get pro software for low budget or even for free like Davinci Resolve. So the comparison makes no sense because even beginners have access to pro software. That means the only difference is the knowledge here and clearly the pro will win.

  • @theCreativeSav
    @theCreativeSav 4 роки тому +126

    No one's talking about how good their acting is

    • @bmefilms6879
      @bmefilms6879 4 роки тому +17

      cuz it wasn't!

    • @maksklinec
      @maksklinec 4 роки тому +1

      its not xd

    • @GustavoOio
      @GustavoOio 4 роки тому

      Tought the same

    • @UDGMTVLINK
      @UDGMTVLINK 3 роки тому

      Jesus Christ is Lord & He is COMING SOON. Don't Take That Vaccine. ❤🙏🏼💯🙇🏻‍♂️

    • @MaiElizabeth
      @MaiElizabeth Рік тому

      Acting is 40%, composition/angle/focal length/camera movemennt are 60%

  • @ShangleLP
    @ShangleLP 4 роки тому +7

    i actually like the windows footages more. You see more details of the surrounding there instead of just dark edges as it was at some shots. I think this looks more realistic and also familiar and comfortable

  • @allysoncipollone890
    @allysoncipollone890 3 роки тому +2

    Josh is such a great addition! So cool to see a beginner learning, it's so accessible and really inviting to try some techniques with what we already have. Thank you!

  • @michel-manuel
    @michel-manuel 4 роки тому +12

    I'm really loving the beginner vs Pro series💯👌🏾🔥

  • @josephconti9235
    @josephconti9235 4 роки тому

    I really enjoy beginner to pro competition. It really shows that it’s within grasp to be able to do these things if you put the effort in.

  • @Michael-rs3to
    @Michael-rs3to 4 роки тому +4

    Loving this series guys!

  • @Buubje13
    @Buubje13 4 роки тому

    I started my 'film'-journey about half a year ago, got enrolled in the FTF course and excited to say that I've got my first big $ project coming up for a multi-billion $ company!!!
    Thanks FTF-crew!

  • @lisasimmons1832
    @lisasimmons1832 3 роки тому +2

    Way to go Josh! I would have psyched myself into failure so it was cool and encouraging to seeing you push through!

  • @AldousFilms
    @AldousFilms 4 роки тому +24

    Whoever threw that tumbleweed and caught that light must have some mad skills

  • @WillyFoxx
    @WillyFoxx 4 роки тому +2

    quality content as always guys. I always learn some new little details about the subject. That's why I keep coming back. Cheers!

  • @filmscorecom
    @filmscorecom 2 роки тому

    lighting design is so important - most beginners just don´t know - you did a great tutorial to start peoples awareness!

  • @speliotis
    @speliotis 4 роки тому +1

    Parker's critique of the comparison had a lot of good tips & things to keep in mind on any shoot ...

  • @chrisnigul
    @chrisnigul 4 роки тому +1

    Loved to see how you guys go head to head using just phones, native app or maybe using Filmic Pro and then editing it.
    Cheers!

  • @sayeedkhalshi
    @sayeedkhalshi 3 роки тому

    the one without extra light is the best. The cuts, acting, lights all looks very engaging

  • @Metienne
    @Metienne Рік тому

    These beginner vs pro episodes are such a nice idea because the pros have to use their creativity

  • @drmatthewhorkey
    @drmatthewhorkey 4 роки тому +4

    I love these videos, great way to show how far knowledge goes.

  • @IamQrock
    @IamQrock 4 роки тому

    You guys are all GREAT! I really enjoy this series you learn a TON. I think what I enjoyed most is the message behind this. To me on the beginner side letting Josh explain his decisions as best he could even though he didn't know all of the terminology and or might've stumbled over his words a little was sooo appreciated. To me that's saying there's nothing to be scared of and no need to get everything perfect before you start... you are good enough! At least that's what I got from it! I will be getting started with my youtube video stuff soon as well. I just need a better computer that can handle it or else I would've started already! Thanks for this great watch!

  • @jordans2678
    @jordans2678 4 роки тому

    Also, I am a FTF member and learn something new every time I study the videos. Thanks for the courses and all the new content and variety that is added all of the time.

  • @rafayeledama
    @rafayeledama 4 роки тому +2

    Nice work Walbeck! Photography is a practical oriented subject and you bring it out in the best way possible...Now do 1080 with a pro vs a 4k with an amateur...once again, good lessons!

    • @AdamJBell
      @AdamJBell 4 роки тому

      They did do a red camera vs some 1080p camera before, couple months ago i believe.

  • @andrewsimon9943
    @andrewsimon9943 4 роки тому +1

    AHHH THE GOOD OLE' DAYS ARE BACK! I LOVE THESE VIDEOS!

  • @moniquewrites9046
    @moniquewrites9046 4 роки тому

    This is a great company to work for. They develop their talent.

  • @messyfilms6325
    @messyfilms6325 3 роки тому

    I’m trying to learn lighting myself, it was fun watching an amateurs thought process. I think he did pretty well.

  • @ferminiturbide4390
    @ferminiturbide4390 4 роки тому +1

    You know you’re doing something right, when random people (me) that have been watching this channel since its early days, have developed a sense of pride by watching this channel grow into what it is today, that feeling extends to the kid, dude, you can see the hard work he’s done from the first episode of this series to this last one......In the Army, we would tell our Soldiers their doing great by telling them “keep doing what you’re doing” it was way of saying “excellent job but don’t let it get to your head”............so........KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING 😂😎

  • @Jetstreamhustla
    @Jetstreamhustla 4 роки тому

    This video is great seeing the pro with nothing and seeing the beginner struggle with high quality is good for everyone including him

  • @MasterEsquilo
    @MasterEsquilo 4 роки тому +1

    At 07:51 he puts the hoodie on and 07:53 his hoodie is down and then 07:56 his hoodie is on again, continuation is key folks! hahah even tho i caught this i'm still pretty much an amateur myself. Loving this series and I've been learning a lot through this channel!

    • @JakeWeisler
      @JakeWeisler 4 роки тому

      haha yeah not much we could do there

  • @abhijithjose2826
    @abhijithjose2826 4 роки тому

    Absolutely love this series! So helpful!!! Id love to see Audio next

  • @Jon_Ryan
    @Jon_Ryan 4 роки тому +35

    Who thought this was the most epic best intro ever!??

    • @jellebigge
      @jellebigge 4 роки тому +1

      You're American? Epic is a word you use a dozen times a day I suppose..

    • @DebzLife
      @DebzLife 4 роки тому +1

      @@jellebigge that's probably the most birt thing you could say!

    • @Jon_Ryan
      @Jon_Ryan 4 роки тому +1

      @@jellebigge nope not american

    • @Jon_Ryan
      @Jon_Ryan 4 роки тому +1

      @@DebzLife huh..?

    • @jellebigge
      @jellebigge 4 роки тому +1

      @@Jon_RyanThe most epic intro ever.. Okay..

  • @chris.z4951
    @chris.z4951 3 роки тому +1

    Respect to Josh, he has improved incredibly🔥🔥🔥🔥👏👏👏

  • @PureCheerClips
    @PureCheerClips 4 роки тому +1

    Mobile videography🙈
    Pro with expensive mobile, and biggner with budget mobile.
    Can you make a video on this topic. This will inspire a lot of mobile content creators.

  • @gwenaelmercier
    @gwenaelmercier 4 роки тому +1

    BEST VIDEO ONLINE SCHOOL!!

  • @RudyAyoub
    @RudyAyoub 4 роки тому +72

    bro im so early bro

  • @Ignacioc
    @Ignacioc 4 роки тому +5

    This was awesome! How about for the next one either:
    Audio
    Color correcting/Grading
    Might need a new beginner?

  • @allthebest1277
    @allthebest1277 4 роки тому +1

    Loving this series, guys. It's nice to see Josh's progress too.
    I love Parker's critique - he really shows you what to look for - and also that you (me) have a lot more to learn LOL.
    Not that this matters for the specific exercise, but there was continuity issue at 7:54 - the hoodie goes on at abt 7:52, the over the shoulder shot - there's no hoodie.
    & "btw" Landon should actually hone his acting skills and pursue acting. His has good thoughtful looks behind the eyes at times which is cinematic gold for film.

  • @wongsanggar
    @wongsanggar 4 роки тому

    really enjoy then series.. I don't skip any section, including the ads!

  • @newleaf9501
    @newleaf9501 3 роки тому

    More like this please.. We can binge watch these like Netflix

  • @jetkeen9060
    @jetkeen9060 4 роки тому

    That first introduction was awesome dude! Nice videos!

  • @ZoeMaven
    @ZoeMaven 4 роки тому +1

    The next Face-off..... Gimbal/Tripod versus Hand-held shots... that's be fun.... Welldone Guys... and Josh...you're getting better and better....😊😊😊

  • @hrishabhbairagi2420
    @hrishabhbairagi2420 4 роки тому +4

    Beginner with gimble vs pro without gimble
    sound design: beginner vs pro
    audio recording setup & editing: beginner vs pro
    Gopro battle

  • @TacoBel
    @TacoBel 4 роки тому +7

    Can you do a Pro v Beginner GoPro Battle? Action or Cinematic.
    Pro only what comes in the box with camera. No Color grading.
    Beginner any GoPro accessory’s he wants. With color grading.
    Please please please!!!!

    • @DebzLife
      @DebzLife 4 роки тому +1

      Love the idea!

  • @330filmco
    @330filmco 4 роки тому

    Josh gets better and better every video!

  • @maxzett
    @maxzett 4 роки тому +7

    His teeth are brighter than any shot taken in the competition

  • @yossishapiro4439
    @yossishapiro4439 4 роки тому +16

    Next video: Beginner with Expensive GIMALS and SLIDERS vs PRO HANDHELD!!!

  • @DaniDo
    @DaniDo 4 роки тому

    Saw that hair at 11:33 :P Great showcase of how to use proper lighting in videos! That's so important

  • @Trollfest23
    @Trollfest23 4 роки тому +2

    Good stuff, great content! One thing I'd say is that both filmmakers have too much movement in their compositions. "Movement" is part of filmmaking language. It says something. I see this among a lot of "dslr era" filmmakers; they always call for more movement in their shots calling it "more dynamic", "more cinematic", but the reality is that motion is a lot more than that. It has to be motivated and only then it is special.

    • @biguattipoptropica
      @biguattipoptropica 2 роки тому +1

      You’re right, it would have been way more interesting if the movement had been limited to “let’s make it interesting”, revealing the Monopoly money, and then the crunch or showing the cards.

  • @Vojoor
    @Vojoor 4 роки тому +3

    The reflections on the second Uno hand was also a little downside in the setup with studio lights

  • @ryanstrom8866
    @ryanstrom8866 4 роки тому

    I would love to see pro with low budget audio equipment vs beginner with expensive audio gear. Although you may need to get a new beginner, this guy is getting pretty good, haha. These are some of my favorite videos

  • @arthniel
    @arthniel 4 роки тому

    I LOVE THESE SERIES!!!!!!!!!!

  • @norgerichard
    @norgerichard 4 роки тому

    I watch all of your videoes.. Its so high quality... I really love it.

  • @PulsarTECH
    @PulsarTECH 4 роки тому

    Please do a competition between beginner with the pro gear vs pro with a budget level DSLR with kit lens and budget lighting in indoor situation! Thanks!

  • @lesmedulistes
    @lesmedulistes 4 роки тому +1

    Amazing video guys !! So much value and technique shared !! This idea of comparing a pro with no lights and "beginner" with pro lights is great (as well as the others comparisons you made on the channel). Thank you for your work. You guys are so motivating and uplifting for me !!!
    William from France 😊

  • @KevinMK
    @KevinMK 4 роки тому

    Parker's back !!!!!

  • @emmanuelsanni5802
    @emmanuelsanni5802 4 роки тому

    Parker is such a legend.

  • @madhvanshchoksi3888
    @madhvanshchoksi3888 4 роки тому +2

    Parker says:"OOO, I am Blinded by the lights!"

  • @AmineAbouAbdellah
    @AmineAbouAbdellah 4 роки тому +5

    Big Big like 👍 from Morocco 🇲🇦

  • @AeviumFilms
    @AeviumFilms 4 роки тому +16

    I want Landon’s face at 8:07 as my phone background

    • @DebzLife
      @DebzLife 4 роки тому +4

      Screenshot it, set it as your home screen, and then screenshot your home screen and upload it on Instagram.
      Once you're done, drop your @

    • @landonbtw
      @landonbtw 4 роки тому +1

      I’d be honored

  • @jordans2678
    @jordans2678 4 роки тому

    Great stuff guys. Been doing lighting for years (though not a pro) and picked up a few great tips such as Rembrandt type lighting, the proper clothes to wear against a background and always filming on the dark side of the subjects. Made some mistakes in the past doing the opposite.
    Would like to see Pro vs Beginner audio outside when it is windy.

  • @ibrahcraft
    @ibrahcraft 4 роки тому

    Love this series.. ❤❤❤❤ ... Next should be gimbal beginner vs pro or handle beginner vs pro or Steadicam beginner vs pro

  • @desikan_v
    @desikan_v 4 роки тому +8

    next video: PRO vs BEGINNER: Shooting and editing cinematic videos on the phone

  • @Storbang
    @Storbang 2 роки тому

    Really cool! I just learned about Rembrandt lighting from this (not a filmmaker) and was delighted to learn I’ve inadvertently used it in a very small percentage of my shots 🤗

  • @adrianisalright
    @adrianisalright 3 роки тому

    Imagine being a newcomer to filmmaking and having these guys teach you

  • @TJIzzy
    @TJIzzy 4 роки тому +11

    Good lighting can even make a phone look good 😁

  • @ZhangKostya
    @ZhangKostya 4 роки тому +43

    Next Episode:
    Beginner with 10 year experience VS Pro with 0 year experience

  • @pilotjm817
    @pilotjm817 4 роки тому

    Fabulous video! GoPro Competition!!

  • @DethronerX
    @DethronerX 3 роки тому

    Beautiful work, thank you!
    I would like to see Film and Digital short film, but not on whats better, but on how different and special each medium is and can be used to compliment the story and the world
    And how slightly you might want to change the way you shoot (camera movement, acting pace, dialogue style, body language, lighting) depending on how it looks better for that medium and its response

  • @DeepakRawat-qw6tv
    @DeepakRawat-qw6tv 4 роки тому +1

    Big fan from India, got lots of information

  • @JeromeMontpetit
    @JeromeMontpetit 4 роки тому +1

    That intro skit was way too good!!!

  • @shakey905
    @shakey905 4 роки тому +1

    You should definitely start making more vs videos as its very popular on your channel

  • @omkarmalapure5782
    @omkarmalapure5782 4 роки тому +19

    Give beginner all budget and pro with a very low budget

  • @timothytamale2600
    @timothytamale2600 3 роки тому

    Young creative star. Always applying your tips in the field. #ArtWithoutFilmSchool

  • @mariofernandezgomez7857
    @mariofernandezgomez7857 4 роки тому

    A challenge of preproduction, preparing a script, a storyboard... WOULD BE AWESOME!!! 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽

  • @AdemVessell
    @AdemVessell 4 роки тому

    I liked the framing and movement more with Josh....great job

  • @MicahFarmermad
    @MicahFarmermad 4 роки тому

    You should do a $5,000 dollar budget contest. The pro and beginner is given $5,000 to spend on any equipment they think would tell the best story for a commercial or branding video. This would be good because a lot of beginners I think have a budget relative to that price range but never know how to properly spend it.

  • @Gearsolid3D
    @Gearsolid3D 4 роки тому +2

    I was watching your video when I had this videos notification.

  • @Jonsonedition
    @Jonsonedition 3 роки тому

    I love those guyz acting and chillin on table

  • @mreleven7826
    @mreleven7826 4 роки тому

    Definitely love this . Saving up for the course . .. it’s worth every penny .. Great video

  • @filmmakermama
    @filmmakermama 4 роки тому

    Yes, I love this series!

  • @sadiqshaikh8715
    @sadiqshaikh8715 4 роки тому +8

    0:41 Imagine going to mc donalds and on your way you see two dudes scaring each other with lights

    • @JakeWeisler
      @JakeWeisler 4 роки тому +1

      hahaha

    • @DebzLife
      @DebzLife 4 роки тому

      I don't mean to sound rude but y do americans only think about McDonald's?

    • @sadiqshaikh8715
      @sadiqshaikh8715 4 роки тому

      @@DebzLife idk am not American🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @dilloncallaway3621
    @dilloncallaway3621 4 роки тому

    FTF is about to release a photography mini course👀 SUPER stoked for this!

  • @derrekord
    @derrekord 4 роки тому +1

    Landon should get an Academy award nod imo

  • @justvincenturb
    @justvincenturb 4 роки тому +1

    Here's an idea.
    Beginner editing with FinalCut/Adobe/DaVinci
    Pro editing with Windows Live Movie Maker

  • @jonk3361
    @jonk3361 4 роки тому

    Always informative and so professional...The intro reminded me of a scene in Rango before "he killed the bird with one bullet"....Next challenge camera lenses! wish you could produce such contents weekly...

  • @1noobymedio
    @1noobymedio 4 роки тому

    Maaaan!!! Those videos are so instructive and helpful
    Thank your so much for all the shared knowledge 🎬🙌🏼

  • @KrishPatel165
    @KrishPatel165 4 роки тому

    Great video!!
    For the next composition I suggest putting all three challenges together.

  • @stefanexplores
    @stefanexplores 4 роки тому +7

    Been wondering about this. As a beginner with zero lights :D

  • @lorelaei9891
    @lorelaei9891 4 роки тому

    Vintage lens vs expensive lens on the same camera could be intersting!

  • @jessidev3757
    @jessidev3757 2 роки тому

    That intro 🤣 y'all are hilarious. Respect.

  • @whengrapespop5728
    @whengrapespop5728 3 роки тому +1

    7:53 When someone only bought chips for themselves, and you steal one right in front of their face

  • @jamesdalefilms7058
    @jamesdalefilms7058 4 роки тому

    Beginner vs pro is the best concept