Knowing when to SWITCH MAINS in Splatoon 3 (ft
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The Roller class is pretty sad competitive wise, they only roller that is usable in comp scene is Carbon Deco, a REALLY hard weapon to learn
Carbon isn't that hard mechanically, but it is very hard for your teammates to work with it optimally.
Carbon really isn’t that hard…it’s just aggro roller…
@@giganticmoonmaybe it’s not that hard when you’re just playing open.. but playing it in high level is much more difficult. that’s why you barely see any carbons in most high level competitive teams
@@youshoulddie7251 shout out to volt for doing god's work!
@@aronspiker72 building a comp around it is painful
I've been playing Octobrush since Splatoon 2 since I've always found it to be a really fun weapon archetype, and it's almost painful how much better tri-slosher is in comparison to it in Splatoon 3 after I picked it up. Even though suction bomb/zipcaster is a somewhat ideal kit for Octobrush, the weapon itself is incredibly inconsistent and has a few irksome weaknesses it shouldn't have. The ink flicks have rng in terms of where they go, and there isn't very many of them, plus they have damage falloff which lends to a poor kill time and only average painting ability. You don't even get a paint flick on your crosshair half the time, which makes its already poor range even less reliable. Plus on top of all this it doesn't have a permanent ink resistance effect when you're rolling like inkbrush does, which makes it even worse considering it's also slower and uses more ink.
What’s permanent ink resistance effect?
@@oswaldgutierrez2207basically when you roll by holding zr with inkbrush, it gives free ink res, so you can roll on enemy ink more easily than octobrush (octobrush takes dmg and slows a little when rolling on enemy ink especially if you make drastic turns), as well as taking a bit less dmg.
I kinda know how you feel about roller zorconic. a while back I used to play a lot of dualie squelchers mainly due to the fact that I love dailies and that I could abuse tenta missiles (yeah I was that kind of person). when splatoon 3 came out I played a lot of dualie squelchers and even got 4 stars on it ,until I noticed that overtime I wasn't playing very constantly with the weapon. so I decided to switch to another weapon that I was very interested in and played since splatoon 1. The 52 gal! and I never really put it down since!
1:38 truly countless (i can only count to 1)
Well... I think i'm weird but at the beginning i played splat dualies, to switch to nautilus (ok) to ballpoint (consistent) to dynamo (??? 😂) To wiper deco and S blast and carbon deco. And nautilus again. And recently 52'gal
So i really think my main is nautilus but i don't feel that i'm very useless with an other weapon, even if it's completly different. (Lol i'm not good with all weapons, i don't even buy brushes and i rarely play snipers and never shooters except 52'gal)
So, if i want to try the new off-meta weapons I enjoy I need an entire group of friends to play them properly, got it.
*Plays Limbus Company*.
I've kind of had the opposite issue. I started this game on Hydra, I actually got it to 4 1/2 stars before I started contemplating other weapons (extremely odd for me). But for as long as the game's been out, I've been between a temp main and the Heavy and Deavy / other splatlings. Splatlings -> Slosher -> Splatlings - > Splat Brella -> Splat Roller -> Splatlings -> Ttek -> Splash -> Splatlings, so on and so forth. I've only recently come to terms with the idea of just sticking to what I know and enjoy, and have been slowly covering up my "frontline" gears to be better for the slight adjustments between weapons (ie a different hat for deavy for spu), which has helped my itch to keep stretching my pool too thin :)
imo it's not always worth it to switch to a better weapon , there's probably weapons/kits with currently untapped potential 🤔. there's been things before that people only eventually realized were good, like nautilus (or like jet squelcher in S2 because i had been maining it and always thought it was extremely good and well it did end up being meta at the end) i say this with even if i know that there's a good chance i am wrong atm!
Yeah, I had to drop Brellas. They’re now a “for fun” weapon, as much as it hurt to put them down. Even in solo q, you had to work so much harder to secure the win, and if anything went wrong, even if you outperformed everyone in the game, your team of food inspired named randos will all look at you. Luckily I could just pop my Brella open to avoid eye contact, but still. A weapon really can hold you back. I then switched to a barely better weapon and got into X Battles. Still low tier, but doing much better being one tier up.
as someone who used to main carbon roller and mini splating i was losing all the time in rank (A+) then i switched to the luna blaster neo and been getting high kill low death ratio games and winning most the time yeah i lose like once or twice but then boom im winning again.
Volty from alliance rouge plays carbon roller a lot
Dam, thats sad there are only two good roller players out there due to the maps and meta weapons But what about the other rollers? I only know Volty and OmegaZidan for Carbon Deco (not sure if Omega is pro but he seems good) and idk who uses Flinginza and no one for Big Swig.
My main is Flingza Roller, and I'm EXTREMELY competitive and it works scaringly well for me on most maps
By extremely competitive I mean I love getting a lot of kills 😭 I recently got 15 in casual turf war
And this is why I stick to Turf War, I am the most dedicated base .96 Gal player and I refuse to let anything stop me from having fun, so thanks for reassuring me on my decision to stay 5.000 feet away from Ranked….no seriously thanks I kept arguing with myself on if I should play it or not.
If I played competitive I probably would play ballpoint because while my main V heavy is seen as a high tier but not as high as ballpoint and Zap as a secondary a weapon i am also getting quite comfortable and unfortunately at the moment C Jet isn’t really worth pushing though for a while this won’t really matter
idk maybe I'm wrong but i hate that people can't have fun with there main anymore, because everyone talks about cp and how you have to pick this weapon or that weapon to play the game
Gus: when I first met snorkel-
i love roller but i wish carbon deco wasn't the only viable one
Im a Tri Stringer main but it doesnt do very well in comp :')
Not a ton of people know how to play with a tri stringer on their team
That and the match making being pretty ass in soloq
I can 1v1 fairly well with it in non-close ranged shooter situations but a lot of times my teammates... Will forget I'm around???
I dont know how to describe it
They dont treat me like a charger ig
I also dont strictly play as a charger since I know thats not a good playstyle for stringers, my main job is to chip damage and generally be a nuisance
I dont have people to play with so I end up having issues of playing very defensively so either my teammates can get distance or fight at a bigger advantage with my toxic mist around
Match making is also REALLY BAD for tri stringer at higher levels
I get to a certain point in S rank and the match making has nothing for me but "oh heres a match where theres an eliter, you, a brella and then a glooga duelies, have fun!!" And then the other team is very meta oriented for some reason
I had one recently where there were 2 stringers(including me), an explosher, and a vanilla jr... At S(800+) for some stupid reason and I had to play extremely offensively in a way the match making shouldnt have ever decided to do since stringers are mid-backline supportive weapons!
I just want to paint my teammates feet and help them skirmish other players so they have a better chance of landing their kills 😭
i refuse to believe roller is a mid class weapon class. It has dynamo roller, WHICH CAN BE USED AS A FRIGGIN LONG RANGE WEAPON WITH ITS VERTICAL SLASH! NOT TO MENTION THE DAMAGE DROPOFF ONLY HAPPENS ABOUT 4 TILES IN! I mean sure, the charge up time is outrageous, but its kit and damage make up for it. Ironically, its kit makes it a very fast weapon. The only class you have to worry about in this case are the chargers.
Dynamo would be good if it could paint consistently, honestly that’s its only major flaw right now that’s holding it back from being used
@@mashedspud fair, fair.
touche
BRO I WAS SND-JOKES ANDUEIFNWNJCE
Doggy
First pin pls
This thumbnail aged poorly...
THE ZORC X CHARA COLLAB IS REAL🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣
You better not forget about gus!!
@@Jelonzo_best_Jebby who? /j
CAN WE GET MUCH HIGHER... (So high..)
FINALLY a Zorchara vid dropped!
@@TorayNixwho?
As a vroller main myself, Gus's explanation of the tri nouveau really piqued my interest, I'm definitely gonna try it in my next outing
Update: I love this thing
I despise vroller hitboxes
@@basti1899fürimmer using them or fighting them? Because both suck. All weapons are only good until you use them, I'm looking at you infinite dynamo one shot that mysteriously disappeared when I used you
@@splatbratt8322 both
As a Tri main, yes
To me, I prefer ROLLER as I hate shooting people twice, I rather deal with a janky hitbox as I think tracking enemies is a POOR weapon choice, because I like TF2's shotgun focused weapons.
1:38
"I've made countless..... (2) videos explaining roller's weaknesses" fucking killed me
Counting to 2 is really hard
Lol, I found it really funny too.
Great video Zorconic!! I had similar experiences multiple times with Dynamo and Range Blaster. Now I try to use dynamo as a secret weapon in map-modes that work well with it or when the other team is mostly short range shooters. I also just use S-BLAST instead of range now, but I do hope these weapons get their necessary buffs to be usable soon!
Yooo what’s up man!
I used to have this problem with dynamo. I played it a ton in solo que but upon joining a competitive team I realized that dynamo would very clearly not suffice so I changed to play ballpoint, I already had been playing sword for a bit and full committed to those 2. Little while later and I can say with confidence im getting better results with those 2 than I ever could with dynamo.
ALSO HE USED PIGSTEP, HE USED PIG STE-
as a dynamo player, we cannot get a single win
also, its Otherside
Dynamo being so sad nowadays is actually the reason I never got into competetive play despite being otherwise interested in it. I just don't have the passion to play with anything else.
I had the exact same experience when switching from dapples to .52 gal! Both had fast kill times and aggressive play styles so i played 52 and climbed up the comp ladder! Can’t wait to see your climb! :)
As someone who plays octobrush and have tried some other weapons like tetra or stamper, I'm noticing that when I switch weapons I don't contribute nearly as much as I do with octo, whether it be because I win more fights with it or other random reasons. There really isn't a similar weapon for me right now (unless it's obvious and I haven't thought of it yet)
It’s not exactly similar, but, have you tried Inkbrush already?
As an octobrush main since splatoon 2 i feel the struggle, i Always feel that even if its a low tier weapon i play infinitely better with it than with any other weapon even high tiers that i tried
Trislosher
have you tried carbon roller?
Try Painbrush.
Your editing is getting better and better with each new video!
I still play brella so I should listen to this
So do I
Same but sorella is out now and it got a buff sooooo
As a guy that changed from Big Swig Roller Express To Carbon Roller Deco only two things feel different. Now i play agressive on carbon deco and get splats and let my teammates paint the base. In the past i painted the base with big swig express and when done i would help my teammates from their back but rarely getting that much splats and not playing agressive. Btw i had a match where i got 19 splats with carbon roller deco.
honestly this has been a struggle for me as well, since I tend to play more backline style weapons by maining things like Tristringer and Explo. but the way the meta and maps are, its been hard trying to readjust and find a new main that can be more consistent
I dappled in the Tri-stringer and I would suggest you try learning a Splatling. Similar in that they are for area denial, but Splatling at least lets you get kills to help out skirmishes more consistently
@@Whodjathink yeah ive been dabbling with the heavy splatlings amd alittle bit of naut
Sorry, not gonna lie anytime I see Tri slosher I just think no skill you can’t change my mind on that. Same with clash blaster.
THIS IS JUST TRISLOSHER PROPAGANDA
the roller to tri pipeline is no joke LMAO . i flip flopped between both roller and tri during splatoon 2 and when splatoon 3 came out i found myself in such a rut playing strictly roller even after krak-on came out that i ended up playing more and more vanilla tri (i still love u inkjet!!) till tri nouveau came out . i had already gotten 4 stars on vroller and vtri but tri nouveau is just so so fun to play with its kit and i'm way more consistent with sloshers overall bcus of it!! it was honestly a surprise tuning into this vid and basically hearing pretty much the exact chain of events that led me to click on it in the first place :]
Red prochara and purple prochara in the same video 😳
CharaMan: Across the CharaVerse
@@ObliviousNaz😂
Oh, Across the CharaVerse? First explain in extreme detail the plot of Into the CharaVerse.
@@badashe1364 It all happened when prochara was bit by the Squid Spider and became... CHARAMAN, he found out that his uncle, arashii was.. THE SPLATANER
I'm not a comp player, but this also happened to me with v roller and tri-stringer.
At first, I just wanted more holographic stickers for my locker so I started using the tri-stringer.
When I got the sticker, I tried going back to v roller and I just couldn't. It took too long to attack,the running speed while inking was quite slow,and in general it just felt wrong.
I'm a casual player but Splatoon 3 is easily the game i switched mains the most. Splatoon 1 I never had a main, I just picked whatever I wanted that moment. In Splatoon 2 my first main as the 52 gal before i moved to octobrush, easily the longest ive had a main. But in Splatoon 3 it just wasn't working out and stamper appealed to me so I mained that for a bit but I realized that wasn't working out either. But then i found vanilla slosher. I only tried it for fun but I did suspiciously well with it, so i switched. I was bad with zipcaster anyway and i think that was holding me back. Splat bomb is amazing and the triple inkstrike is alright.
Funny how you posted this video when I was already maining Tri-Stringer and V Ink Brush, looking for a possible 3rd weapon to main.
Some people recommend me Vroller or Carbon Deco due to my experience with frontline weapons, others said Ttek because I used Vbucket but ended up enjoying the kit more than the main weapon itself.
Still on my search for a third main but regardless which one I pick, I’ll still play Tri-Stringer and V ink brush, even if just casually
Though I'm not a competitive player, nor do I even really touch X Rank lol, I consider my weapons to actually be ones I could, if I wanted to, swap onto similar archetypes to fit onto a team. Being primarily Gloogas, but picking up Hydra, Heavy and Luneo has helped me expand my weapon selection to the point where I can confidently say I can probably learn to run most backline splatlings, learn to run dualies like tetra or Vdualie or even try some of the blasters if needed. I've considered improving my skills a little to try comp but having a good number of options to spec into later is a goal I wanna achieve first.
I somewhat have this same problem but with carbon deco. but on some occasion i switch to ttek or wiper
Well clearly if your not winning with roller enough then that means your Wi-Fi is too good like roller is bettr then splash and ballpoint when you go to Macdonald to play splatoon
I play dapple dualies nouveau and play aggressive and support at times, and the dodge roll is what I really like using with it, but lately i’ve climbed the ranks with randoms and dualies are my main class, but tetra really isnt doing it for me. If anyone has any suggestions please share, or tips so that I can still use my weapon but more effectively.
you did NOT have to put blaster in the thumbnail 😭 broke my heart, i was a day 1 range player
I feel this a lot because I’m getting into competitive and watching a lot of videos about it. I’m seeing how in soloq a lot of professional mindset is finding what your weapon can do for the team you got. A lot of time isn’t that different, but if you see you team have, let’s say, weapons that can’t paint a lot themselves but you have one that does, then you got a job to do, get turf to help your teammates.
Also, I love how this video talks really good about weapon classes and variety. I main dualies that are pretty good in most matches in S rank, but recently I try using splash-o-matic to Learn more to be a slayer and how can I help the team. Changing a weapon you like for something close, or similar in play style, can give a lot of lessons.
Good video :D
This was basically my issue when I was one-tricking Octobrush (Ive been playing octobrush since late S2 as it was my first real main after Dualies).
I kept getting inconsistent results for a while and got burnt out because of that, I then tried giving splatanas a chance around late chill season because stamper had zipcaster which is a special I really like, Stamper was a bit slow for me to get used to so I took wiper to learn the mechanics.
I then started to get more wins and actually had alot of fun with both splatanas.
And now I currently main Stamper while also pocketing Wiper and Octobrush, and sometimes play some other weapons like Vdualies, slosher class, and tetras.
Love the collab
@zorconic you forgot my goat UwUzi d2 roller player who plays or has played most rollers in comp
zorconic buddy bro why is ur character drawn outta ms paint
Crazy how Roller has sorta become meta with very little changes. Certain players just learned to use it better!
plot twist : the dog gets the card
Maybe try carbon roller?
"Hey wake up the Zorcronic vid is here--"
"You mean Zorconic...."
"NO the Zorc........."
"......just watch their fucking videos"
WAOH BRO UR USEING MINECRAFT MUSIC IN A SPLATOON VIDEO!?!?!?!?!? (I love it)
I used to absolutely DESPISE tri in 2. It was annoying, broken, and every single negative thing in the book for me. I used to main squiffer, but now here I am, a Tri main. I used to main octobrush in 2. Now I main inkbrush. Mains change, and thats perfectly fine. No shame in dropping a weapon if it just doesn't make you happy anymore.
I’ll probably make a video on this later. But playing roller in splatoon 2 is not the same as splatoon 3. Splatoon 3 has way more things to counter a splatoon 2 roller style of playing. I switched a few months into splatoon 3 and im still trying to find a main rn. So far i like Splattershot, Enperry dualies, and octobrush nouveau. They work well to the aggressive side of my play style but not as well to the stealth.
Though I main Inkbrush. If brushes are one of the weapon classes that are more Difficult to win in competitive. I will still strive to become the very best regardless like no one ever was.
Went through this kind of recently with Letras, felt like they started to hold me back despite them being aggressive. So I tried some options and finally settled on Enperry Splat Dualies as my second main weapon. Been doing a lot better than I used to after dropping Letras. =P
Personally I believe it is not the weapon that makes it awful while that is mostly the case, however it is the player job to make that weapon work for the player. I remember correctly in an Nintendo open a Japan player had made the sploosh work in two and won the open, then everyone started player sploosh.
I know the team worked around the sploosh but it all comes to the player to push said weapon then the weapon being just terrible out right for it's plethora of reasons.
If the under cover brellia is the worst weapon in the title and a top team from Japan is using it in their weapon select I am sure many will respect that player despite what top three weapon the opponent team is using.
I went from a Tenta Brella main to a Vanilla Slosher main so I don't know WHAT happened 🤣
Volty is also notable for Roller Deco.. but yeah Roller fell off due to maps pretty hard.
I’m X rank octobrush player, and while I have been really good at the weapon itself and having fun, I have seen that lots of weapons are good against octobrush, therefor I may switch to something recommended in the video, thank you.
Im that player that likes to use underused weapons and be a “low-tier warrior” kinda guy
So its kinda sad to see that in competitive play you kinda have to use solely top tier weapons
I feel like its better to use a bad weapon that connects with you
Take Smash Bros for example, i can’t play Steve at all, and he’s top tier
But i can play Incineroar super well
Its all about what’s convenient for you imo
I main Flingza and have inconstant gameplay, sometimes such as on zones Im the biggest painter and often have the most splats verses when I run clams for example and that really won't work, is there any weapon of choice by anyone here that anyone can recommend me?
How about no? I’m a brella player but through and through and I will bash my head against the wall until it works for me! Seriously tho plz fix these damn things…
I dont know what to do about my main. I cant find a weapon im good at. My main is undercover brella which i do very well with. Im getting more into anarchy battles and i know im going to drop it to get to a higher rank. Im currently trying to become a charger main but its obviously a much different playstyle than undercover. Help
As a Octobrush main I find it had to play competitive with it, no im not an X rank player im an S. I tried out the splash and I was decent at it until...well..you get the gist. Does anyone have any ideas of weapons with similar playstyles as octo that are good for competitive play?
I suck at most weaps, but i shine at blasters. I should really try my hand at others for other modes outside of tower control, but in this life, i'm not good at a lot of things 🤣🤣 i managed to get to S+ though as a disabled/sight impared gamer!
hi ! im a heavy splatling main but i feel like in these top rank,,, my heavy do not feel as great as he was before,,, i mean,,, i still splat for like,,, 20 people in the average,, but we always end up to lose anyway,, and even if when my team got litterally 0 kill and died 18 time,,, i can understand that i was just unlucky with my teammate,, but when my whole team is good and that i kill over 20 people and we end up to lose anyway,,, i feel like i have to actually move on and change my main,,, but i have no idea what to choose,, i tried ballpoint but its way too different to play,,,,
GUSSSSSSSSS ❤️
What weapon i can use to substitute Dynamo Roller????gold dynamo is meh and vanilla suck
is last ditch effort, ninja squib, drop roller, and a hodgepodge of abilites stupid? because it feels well for me. 😅
I love the fact that you added Minecrafts new music disc soundtrack at the middle and the end of the video love the background music makes the video more interesting to watch.
Bruh i changed from a octobrush main to a explosher main which is really strange looking back
I seem to suck ass with inkbrush, but idk if i need to switch to octobrush, or if i just need to git gud lmao
I had the same issue with flingza and I knew it was time to change I just didn't know what to pick till now
This is why you'll never see me do competitive splatoon that's for sure
gus is goated for helping Zoronic though
dear zorconic,
relatable af
sincerely,
an octobrush user
i main every weapon that sucks for comp. whadda hell 👴👴
Could anyone recommend me some better weapons for competitive than my main the octo brush?
He called Tentatek, Wasabi
I don't know if it's normal
Nah but seriously he taught you to use a toxic weapon and you didnt know!?
0:33 how did it take me this long to realize ttek is literally just wasabi but S3
I guess I might have to drop base roller in my team :/
Defined by what they need living in those avatars.
cant believe purple prochara just dropped a new video
bro really missed aerospray in the most common weapons
ive mainly used squeezer, dynamo, bamboo, jr with iss(mainly only in 2 though), nautilus, stamper, brella, mini , machine and nozzelnoze and i cant see any overlap in their playstyles, pls help me
Seems like you enjoy playing a bit further back, but beyond that it's pretty scattered.
i was range blaster but switched to splatana wiper
S blast is only played cause people want it to be good.
Actually🤓🤓 its the callout is cooler not tac 🤓
Can someone help me find that tenta brella user at 5:03?
otherside started playing and made me smile :)
im just here for the doggo at the end :)
is there anything similar to mini splatling
Don’t forget Volty on the Carbon Deco