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It's hard for his team to ruin a one lap contests but when there are 70 laps then Ferrari will take every opportunity they can get
It's not just Ferrari there, I think Sharl is one of the best qualifiers, but clearly in race pace Max is ahead of him Sharl has good days but he's just also less consistant.
Brilliant driver but room for improvement on his end and a lot on his teams end.
Charles also likes to fock it into the wall once in a while. Imola and France alone costed him the entire lead he had over Max in Australia.
Ferrari is not the only part of the team doing silly mistakes.
@@gandalf_thegrey but those are the only two instances this season
@@Minifliek I think that charles is very much like senna tbh, very fast but can make mistakes, overall, at this moment, i think that max is a superior driver but down the line, we never know. Max might end up like vettel and charles might develop into a great driver, we dont know. Russel seems to be like prost but thats yet to be tested
@@gandalf_thegrey ferrari is definitely not the only one but they are 90% of the issues with Charles not winning races from 2019 to now. he's definitely improved not being as mistake prone or as aggressive as a whole, but he does need to know he can't do that in close title fights in the future.
his mistakes mean little this season when looking at the scope of things though. ferrari have been the ones who threw away the lead since spain.
The problem that has scandalously not been talked about enough, is the horrific leadership at Ferrari since the death of Sergio Marchionne. John Elkann has been dragging this team down a cliff since the former’s death, in the same way that Peter Ward dragged Lotus down after Colin Chapman’s death. The difference being that Lotus was struggling financially, and would collapse only a decade afterwards, so Warr couldn’t do much to salvage the team. Elkann, on the other hand, is only there because of nepotism and his relationship to Gianni Agnelli. In a world where ego has trumped logic at the Scuderia, I cannot see them winning any form of championship anytime soon, (10 years at least probably, lol) and that’s being generous. Leclerc should just say, fuck it, and leave this team to self-destruct. With how many top drivers this team has failed over the years, I would be genuinely shocked if any top driver will be willing to join this team. In the end, Ferrari wholeheartedly deserve it for their tradition of being such a tragic waste of money, resources, and talent. A crying shame, to say the least.
I cannot talk about Ferrari's inner struggles cause I'm not that aware of them. But the second part about Charles leaving, that was straight facts
Or he could grow a fucking set and make Ferrari realize they need him as much as he needs them. I find him to meek to be at Ferrari tbh. He needs to demand perfection from them.
Are the inside struggels not something that is ferrari in al ages, it is not really stŕeamlined
Well...damn. Could not have put it any better.
I’ve brought this topic up on multiple threads before and your exactly right!!!!!!
I think the thing everyone should be worrying about is when Ferrari is gonna stop playing around and actually look at their management with a logical mindset instead of living in a dream where they think everything they are doing is correct. Charles has been exceptional for Ferrari since 2019, and they’ve consistently robbed him of wins through a multitude of reliability failures, some bad strategies, and obviously sometimes his own mistakes.
I also think the Ferrari car is solely to blame for the tire wear issues. Sainz has a much smoother driving style and yet suffers from some of the same issues consistently. Silverstone was a prime example of this where they nearly (and should’ve) lost a race win to Mercedes because of how bad their tire wear is. Monza as well, I mean they couldn’t keep up with Max who had older tires and then they eventually were starting to lose a bit of time by the end of the race. It’s insane how they have this issue and cannot fix it still.
This year ferrari can thanks mercedez and totto for their tyres issues, since the floor changes ferrari was nerfed. Thanks to totto the title fight ended in spa
@@flyingberserker3965 toto was not the only one advocating for the floor change. there were multiple other teams/drivers also wanting this change for the sake of reducing the extreme porpoising people were having, and it's worked out massively.
you can thank ferrari for not being efficient enough to help be able to fix this issue. they've actually been one of the few teams who somehow has gone BACKWARDS in the second half.
@@blaine319 totto was the loudest voice, he was who have the most to win, and forget about all teather spectacle around hamilton with bouncing
@@flyingberserker3965 toto was the loudest voice because it is toto. hes always at the center of media headlines. everyone else had equivalently equal input on it and there were a lot of other people wanting change. stop trying to make it something where "toto is crying" or "toto always gets his way" when he isn't always the only person wanting change.
and the thing around hamilton and bouncing also was applying to many other drivers who were having back issues with the porpoising. it wasn't just hamilton. im glad they changed it. its better for the safety of drivers.
@@blaine319 they are the loudest for some reason, dont give excuses others the same, because many times other do the same nothing changed at all in the past.
And the back of the drivers, even before the rule change teams already have solved the problem, mercedez included, safety was just an excuse to hurt their rivals.
I think the phrase used is merchant. That aside excellent video as always. Can't help feel sorry for Charles. Not winning races on Sunday when you're the fastest on Saturday must hurt.
I put 'Merchand' on screen as a joke because that's merchant in French, clearly didn't make it obvious enough😂
@@Aldas001 It's "marchand" in French.
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In my opinion that statistic perfectly shows what's happening in Ferrari. In qualifying the perfect lap is entirely in the hands of the driver. Of course the driver depends on the team to setup the car well but there is no strategy for the perfect lap. The perfect lap comes entirely from the talent of said driver. But a race win is dependent on both. Both the talent of the driver and the ability of the team to make a race wining strategy. Charles shows his talent in qualifying when the lap depends on him but then when it comes to the race he's basically always let down because of his team and you can't win races simply on talent.
So Charles would also be on pole in a Williams?
This is nonsense of course, the car and its setup are also an important part of qualifying performance. The quick warm up of the tyres helps him over one lap to be quicker than the RB just as much as it hinders him with tyre deg. For Max it is the other way round. Since getting to grips with the car Sainz has actually often been quite close to Charles in qualifying, and no one would call Sainz a qualifying monster.
Charles is a great driver, and a great qualifier, but he will also have to improve if he wants to beat RB and Mercedes next year.
@@rulifaller8474 No, the point is Charles can’t be fucked over by Ferrari over 1 lap
@@rulifaller8474 its not that he is shot at managing his tyres bro. The ferrari was just often shit at keeping the tyres alife, it was like that sometimes this year but very often in 2019. And then ferrari fucked up his races on numerous occasions this season plus he had retirements while beeing first and winning easily.
@@rulifaller8474 its not always the driver that makes the car worse, its the philosophy of the car which creates things like high tyre wear cause the ferrari is too harsh on its tyres. compare to mercedes who struggle with tyre warmup not because of their drivers but because of the car itself, which is why it runs in the races a lot better because it doesnt overuse/overheat the tyres too much
@@richardhobbs7360 Actually they can #Q3Brazil2022😱
It’s not a problem with Leclerc at all, I wouldn’t even say that poor strategy has done them in this season, the fact of the matter is the RB18 is just a better car. Max can get better race pace out of it without sacrificing tyre wear, Leclerc has to choose between tyre wear or performance. Hopefully Ferrari can make a good car and slow it down on the horrible strategy calls Next Year™
Up until Spa, Red Bull wasn't a better car.
@Kapitan bro the team bosses themselves (this includes Ferrari) have acknowledged that the Ferrari is faster than the RB18. Only since Spa has the RB18 been a bit more dominant. Before that trying to make the argument the RB18 is better is simply, objectively false.
@Kapitan Not gonna waste a lot of time on you, so just a quick overview since Miami:
Spain (Ferrari faster)
Monaco (Ferrari faster)
Azerbaijan (50/50)
Canada (50/50)
British (RB faster)
Austrian (Ferrari faster)
French (50/50)
Hungarian (Ferrari faster)
Belgian (RB way faster)
Dutch (RB faster)
Italian (RB faster)
Singapore (RB faster)
Japan (RB faster)
So up until Spa, RB wasn't faster.
Genius
I think the problem is very much Leclerc and I’m tired of people not seeing it. He’s incapable of reading the race and does nothing but making mistakes. If Ferrari ever want to be WDC they need to get behind Carlos as he’s a far better driver
@@chasingthesunrise4139 ur right about Charles. That shyt will grow on u if u have it. Carlos might read it better but when u look at Ferrari and both drivers they are not championship material
There's also the problem of Ferrari being too focused on quali speed instead of race pace. Max always sets his car up for race pace, even if it means not getting pole. I recall him once saying something along the lines of "There's no point in having the fastest car over 1 lap when it's not the fastest over a race distance.". Being the fastest over a race distance also includes managing tire wear.
There's always next year. Will they be title contenders till the end of the season or not? I can't take anymore disappointment Ferrari!
how many "next year is our year" we had before
I can take all the bumbling and stumbling they can dish up. 😂 Go Bulls Go
Sure you can (take more.) You've been taking it for untold years.
It took ferrari 3 years to become champion after they become a contender in 1997 and win it in 2000
But it could also go nowhere like when alonso become contender in 2010 and 2012 and vettel in 2017-2018
The problem with Ferrari is the same problem that brought down big name teams like Toyota, stubbornness. Their management and work culture clearly aren't compatible with being a competitive F1 team, which can be seen this season and in others where Ferrari start with a strong car but fall off by the end of the season. Also considering how Seb did at Ferrari and you get the picture that they can't manage their drivers or mid-season development. Hopefully something changes but they need to rip up however they're doing things now and start over.
The main problem is management. When your team principal says they are not looking to win the championship you can’t expect your team to give it their all
Indeed... Ayrton Senna statistics regarding pole positions 'ratio' versus Grand Prix victories up to 1987 were quite similar... 1985 and 1986... Ayrton got many pole positions... but only 4 victories...
I'm not ready to draw comparisons to Ayrton Senna. LeClerc isn't on the same level and he's in what should be a/the premier team. Senna was driving lesser machinery.
Yep... I agree... comparisons are never fair... indeed...
... different times... a different level of technology...
... Anyway... there's the obvious coincidence regarding those figures and statistics as Ayrton Senna achieved many pole positions in 1985, 1986 with the super quick Lotus-Renault... but... in that case... because of a lack of reliability or too much fuel consumption... only got 4 victories... 2 per year... 1985... 1986...
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I know it's a different situation and different circumstances... but I couldn't help mentioning this coincidence... the only case of someone with so many pole positions after those 1985 and 1986 seasons... and only 4 victories in total... Just that... a remarkable coincidence...
I still think he's ready for a title fight, any criticism went away after JAPAN GP, looking at Ferrari tyres. Sadly can't say the same for Ferrari itself
Currently, Leclerc and Verstappen both have gotten 18 poles, which I think is an interesting statistic.
Max has 31 wins and Leclerc 5. 31+5=36. 18+18=36. Illuminati confirmed
@@LilGril10 lol Max had 32 wins when you posted this
Aside from the tyre deg issue, if Charles had faith in the Ferrari team, like how Max does with RB or Lewis did with Merc, then he wouldn't need to keep over-driving the car. An unfortunate consequence of being in that team. I think he's been very unfortunate with circumstances that he lost so many "shoulda been" wins. Probably had at least 5 lost due to reliability. Also, in Austria, Ferrari were the ones with better tyre deg than RB, so they can do it.
The big issue for Ferrrari is that they can’t develop a car during the season. This season i very similar to the 2017& and especially the 2018 season were they start the season strong but can’t keep up in the development race. And on top there inability to develop a car they make a lot o mistakes at the track. You should make a video comparing Ferraris titele bids in 2017 & 18 to 2022 they would look pretty similar. Just as they learned nothing from those years typically ferrari
I think its a car related issue. In 2019 seb also struggled from deg. And in the first part of 2022 deg wasnt really an issue
I think the problem is very much Leclerc and I’m tired of people not seeing it. He’s incapable of reading the race and does nothing but making mistakes. If Ferrari ever want to be WDC they need to get behind Carlos as he’s a far better driver
@@chasingthesunrise4139 yeah sure, Leclerc is the reason his inters looked like they were trying to be Lewis’ from Turkey while Max’s looked brand new
@@chasingthesunrise4139 how?
@@chasingthesunrise4139 incapable of Reading the race? I mean, do you remember Bahrain? Verstappen overtook him two times at turn 1, and then Leclerc reovertook him three corners later. I wouldn't Say he can't read races, beacuse he knows how to battlle on the track. The thing is tyre degradation, and it's thing that Leclerc should work at. On the other hand Sainz also had problems with tyres, so that also might be a car, But anyway Charles should work at tyre degradation to be as competetive as Max
@@chasingthesunrise4139 yeah, and does max have to read races? he doesnt. he has a competent strategy team and leclerc does not. how is it fair that leclerc needs to double duty as strategist and driver? does he win a world strategist championship aswell?
Honestly no matter who’s driving the Ferrari, they will always bottle it. Many years of repeating the same mistakes with the same people, no chance.
And the sutborness to not change the most blatant causes of mistakes is atrocious
It’s very easy. Leclerc overachieves on a saturday which makes him look bad on a sunday. While on a sunday, Leclerc finishes where he should finish in that car. Whitout Leclerc Ferrari would have had 1 pole and 1 win this season.
I don't know why more people have this view point
@@mikeyamissah7968 Or on a saturday he finishes where he should be because Ferrari is the fastest over one lap. Sainz is always within 2 or 3 tenths in qualli,
Whats interesting tho is that the way the Ferrari is described as pointy, makes me wonder how Max would perform in the Ferrari as we know he loves a pointy car!
12wins a season atleast
he'll be able to find the limit...but then again tyre wear will be a big issue! saturday's will be good but sundays will be more difficult
@@farhanrahman7119 Wouldn't have more than 6. Ferrari has tyre issues, is less reliable than Red Bull and team management is horrible.
This guy is a champion. He will fix this. Look at Max. He developed to be a champion because he is a champion
more like developing with the pain for leclerc
What exactly will he fix? Ferrari's Italian culture and concomitant organizational incompetence? No, I don't think he'll be able to fix that. Ross Brawn did it, but Charles is merely a driver.
I concur 💯, Charles will bounce back. He's the one who'll bring back Ferraris' glory days.
Good video and an interesting issue. I think Charles is the real deal. I think he has two problems that he is fighting - the first is the speed of Max in that Red Bull. That combo really is too quick and Charles has to push and push to give himself the sniff of a chance. The second issue is Sainz as his team mate. Charles is quicker and a better racer than Carlos but Carlos is trying to prove otherwise and Ferrari haven’t quite got the message yet that Carlos is Number 2 and Charles is Number 1 and doesn’t need all the aggro of having constantly to prove he is the quicker driver. Once that is sorted out Charles will be in a similar position to Max and Lewis of having all the support for him. Charles will be up to it but will Ferrari? By the way the phrase would be Pole Merchant not Pole Merchand as Merchand doesn’t mean anything. Thanks again for a video that needed making.
tbh sainz was presented all opportunities to be on level with Charles but the man is simply not on theirs (+Max) level. He should've handled GB to Charles to keep championship hopes alive
JPM's Pole-Win statistic is a testament to how many times his BMW engine exploded
This year's Ferrari seems a bit like the Mercedes W04 from 2013 which was really quick in qualifying but was too rough with the tyres and couldn't keep up in the race. I can't really see a logical reason why someone would be fast over one lap consistently but somehow slow on multiple laps.
It’s pretty logical. Tire deg.
Well, Ferrari can't do an illegal tyre test either so...
@@berkhanogulcanakcay7336 😆
Two problems could be identified in the first half of the season: strategy and reliability which both prevented Charles from winning more than once. In the second half, tire wear was added. I think it's mostly the car here because wear and tear wasn't that big of a problem in the first half. In Australia, the car has even had much less degradation than the Red Bull. The TD39 seems to have changed something here and narrowed the operation window for the Ferrari. If Ferrari knows about the problems, it can be fixed for 2023. Charles can only make sure that he doesn't always just push and also allows the tires a slow introduction. The new Pirelli 2023 tires could help with that too, as they're supposed to be sturdier, that could help the tire eaters. When this is solved, Charles ratio should get better, it is not that he can't win, he showed that 5x already but most of the time the Ferrari is slower on the long run while faster over one lap. Taking this into account, and also looking at Charles' extraordinary strength on one lap, the bad ratio is explainable.
Valterri’s issue is not a mental one, he just lacked the race pace. Few drivers can drive very quickly whilst managing the tires well - look at how many times verstappen has qualified poorly but has such immense race pace that he just breezes past everyone
I think people place too much emphasis on what they think is the mental aspect of the sport. In reality, drivers with “poor mentality” are there because they’re not performing, which affects their confidence. Performance affects mentality, not the other way round. Look at lando Norris - he openly admits to having mental health struggles but his performances has boosted his mental strength, because he has confidence in himself
It's both. When you have a bad weekend you can either pick yourself up or let it demotivate you. And when you are on cloud nine with your performance you can still get overconfident and make the odd mistake, and that will demotivate you. The difference between letting a bad performance demotivate you for the rest of the season and make you perform poorly for the rest of the season is your mental fortitude.
Sharl’s more a Saturday man than the Saturday man himself these days
It’s not hm,it’s the team sadly
@@fqeagles21 not saying it’s his fault,just pointing out the facts
@@fqeagles21 he had his moments too
@@kidnamedfinger420 he had his moment too, who doesn't, even Max and Hamilton made a lot of mistakes in their carreer, but at least they have a team that covers their mistakes...Ferrari can't even change 4 tires in less than 12seconds, and fighting against max with a team that could fuck up your race at literally every pit stop, puts A LOT of pressure on you.
@@kidnamedfinger420 true but only a bit
The word Merchant has being 1 of the funniest words in the F1 meme community for some while
Charles being a self critical driver will definitely be worried and make adjustments, but Ferrari is the one that really needs to put their heads down under the microscope. IMO*
Reminds me of 2002 when Montoya was winning all those poles, yet Schumacher was winning all the races. Williams BMW had great 1 lap pace, but the Ferraris had better race pace.
If you think Charles race pace is bad go watch F2 Bahrain 2017 it is an absolutely perfect drive and one of the best ever imo
i think the valtteri comparison was a bit harsh as he was the second driver for Mercedes and charles is ferraris current number 1
Actually, the situation at Ferrari is very ambiguous, and it is part of the problem. They don't officially a first and second driver. Sainz is actually the favorite driver because he brings i.portant sponsors, but Charles is clearly much better driver. Ferrari should make it clear and officially promote Carlos, but they wait for him to take the lead in points.
I just don't see where people are coming from when they go around claiming that Leclerc just has no race pace, looking at this season alone, his race pace has never been lacking against his main marker, which is Carlos in the same car. Charles has always had the pace this season to fight for the top 3, it's just different events prevented him from finishing there such as reliability, strategy etc.
One way to solve it put Charles in a Mercedes or redbull he'll have a better conversion rate. Still highly rate Charles and think he could challenge for championship if ferrari can sort themselves out.
As a Red Bull fan I like that idea, let Leclerc and Russell take points of each other.
Me to would be quality viewing to see that happen week in week out.
I'm a Ferrari fan, but Leclerc has to go, he's just wasting his talent with the 🤡 in our team.
He has nowhere to go my guy. He‘d never join RB and dare to fight Max in the same car and the Merc seats aren‘t free either. Everything else is a downgrade.
You had me in the first half lol
@@Reaz399 nah he he's ready to fight with Max and even beat him, Ferrari isn't.
Everything else is a downgrade, so let's hope Ferrari improves (pff), otherwhise Max won't have competition for the next 4 years.
Maybe when Lewis will retire he will join Mercedes, but after Hamilton vs Rosberg i don't think it will happen
@@jongcena2555 he is not ready man. Charles will find a way to crack under pressure, while Max won’t
@@syndicategaming1668 France was a rookie mistake i know but man: with 20sec gap behind him i can bet Max doesn't feel the pressure...he could literally drive with one hand.
The fact is that at least Max have a team that covers him if he does a mistake, Ferrari on the other hand can't even change 4 tires in less than 12seconds, and i think that you can agree with me that fighting against max, with a team that could fuck up your race at literally every pit stop, puts A LOT of pressure on you.
And yes, because at this point it's a fact, Redbull is simply a better car than Ferrari, that ate the tires in 3 laps.
Feels like Ferrari's speed is almost always overshadowed by ultimately being on the team or the drivers at this point. It's like the car just burns through all its tires just to keep up in a race and then all of a sudden both drivers are forced to conserve pace so much in the end that it stops them from being competitive as Red Bull. Hopefullt they can fix these issues.
That long list of poles not becoming wins is a pretty bad record to have, and pretty much is the icing on the cake on how this year was supposed to be Ferrari's year and how they binned it so badly instead.
charles was robed of like 5-6 wins dew to relliability issues and bad strategies so how is his problem not getting the wins he had to? in the first half of the season ferrari was clearly the faster car on 80% of the races but could not convert to wins because of their own problems. and when charles sees his team not taking responsibility for their mistakes he knows he has to make this up with driving more aggresively and thats why i think he made some mistakes two. he really loves ferrari and he is a very kind person as it seems and thats why he hasnt exploded on them still but if next year his own team steals the world chanpionship from him again i dont know if we can recover from that
To be fair to Charles, the bulk of those Pole Positions have been in 2022, and their 2022 car is a great qualifier but just not as competitive as the Red Bull over a race distance.
That alone significantly changes the argument being made.
I think Leclerc is still the issue. Driving style impact the tire wear.
No... he puts a lot of seconds on sainz too (who is good at managing the tyres)
Nope, it shows that when sheer driving skill is required most over one breakneck lap, he's as good as it gets. That Baku 2021 pole was sensational, talk about outperforming a car around a specific track.
Max is just head and shoulder above the rest this season.. No one comes close.
high downforce means more wear the tyres; tyre wear also depends on the drivers TBH....
They have a car that's fast in qualifying trim on light fuel. Charles has always been fast over one lap. The "Flex Floor" rule effected Ferrari, it didn't effect RBR. Also, Ferrari has problems running a race, Red Bull and MV don't. That translates to Red Bull dominance. Red Bull didn't get a whole lot faster, everyone else got slower.
I think it really shows the state of the team, the strategies and the politics. The car is fine, the car is really fast but the team really fucks up when it comes to racing and doesnt seem to understand how to react to other teams strategies
They have more tyre wear because they are required to gain time in corners. Red bull doesn't need to push as much because they can regain time on the straights. Speed is king. If the car behind cannot overtake on the straights
It's unfortunate that Max's brilliance is shadowing his performance. Max is Good, forget 2022 season. 2021 he showed us what he can do to Hamilton in his supposedly faster car.
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This is the thing, while Max and Charles are similar talents, Max is so much more superior because of experience in races. Max has had a podium car for 6 years, Charles only 2. This is Charles first title contender. It’s not long ago the whole ‘Crashtappen’ meme was a thing. Give Charles some time, he’ll be okay
I'm a Max fan but Charles is a very great racer too. Absolutely champion material
No... not worried about that...
My worries are about having Binotto and Mekies leading the team... that's Scuderia flaw...
He has only 4 pole positions less than Alonso. But Alonso has 32 race victories
I haven't noticed enough of Leclerc's steering inputs, however, if the, as you said, microcorrections are anything to go by, that's very similar to Schumacher's style, however, the 2000's Ferraris had very strong rear balance and were designed around The Michael. Not saying they're on the same league, though.
Adrian Newey having a field day designing these new regulation ground effect cars which was his breakfast lunch and dinner back in the day.
Whenever engine development is frozen and aerodynamics becomes the name of the game it's Newey who rises to the top. Always has been, always will be until someone with more knowledge/experience comes along.
Yes we should be worried but not for him, for Ferrari. If the engine didn't explode or have shit strategies, that race win number would be a lot higher
It would've been neck to neck constructors battle or Ferrari would've been ahead , shoulda woulda coulda i suppose .
Lecler just isn’t consistent like a lot of the great drivers, Max and Lewis can give u blazing speed on every lap and make few mistakes, Charles just can’t do that over a full season
Lewis's Baku mistake last year was bad as Leclerc's mistake in France this year. Verstappen had his share of stupid mistakes until last year(his 7th season in F1)
@@OnurP1 max has been pretty clean since 2019 or at least 2020
@@ajf226 He still does mistakes on occasion although they are less than Leclerc's since Max is a more complete driver.
Leclerc has to overdrive the car to get it to perform. Ultimately it's the car and probably the tradeoff between downforce and speed.
As a Leclerc fan I'd rather see him start on pole every race. I think it will always mean a higher chance of victory, or at least he will be in the race for the win. If he ends his career with 60 plus pole positions it will be no laughing matter.
It will be a laughing matter if he still has only 5 wins.
@@Bullpit2 but that would be very unlikely
If you take out the guys with one pole, one win, Max has a percentage of over 72% which is the highest of all.
Senna has a record of 65 poles and 31 victories, I believe, and won 3 championships. Maybe you’re looking at this the wrong way: maybe Charles can come up with exceptional single laps with an inferior car, and during the race the other drivers with better cars beat him?
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Isn't vettel also got that kind of stat in 2010? I remember he get a lot of pole but only win a few of them, the difference is in 2010 it is very competitive between ferrari, red bull and mclaren
And Vettel mastered the art of winning from the front row. He won all four of his championships like that. The only exceptions were the Singapore GP where he started 3rd and inherited the win when Lewis retired and the Indian GP win where he pitted early and overtook everybody. Even when he moved to Ferrari he only won races when he qualified in the top three
Leclerc ain’t perfect, but he’s very talented and will likely grow. Ferrari have let him down countless times and I think he should push for a move to Mercedes when his current contract runs out.
I think Charles is too Quali focused. Can’t remember any of his 4 Wins (apart from Bahrain, which can be because Red-bull struggled with everything that day) from Pole were he didn’t struggle with the tires towards the end of the race.
lol quali focused omg, drivers do what they can do depending on the situation, racing it's a different story, drivers and specially the car acts different on these shit tyres that are designed to degrades purposely plus that has rules right now that is mandatory to use two types of tyres compounds so the outboard team management play a big role on the racing leaving sometimes the drivers like a "passenger".
I don't think we should be worried about this yet, for example, Senna had similar statistics early in his career with pole to win conversion, and of course I'm not putting the two on the same level, I'm just pointing out that it's far too early to judge Charles' career.
This is only Charles' 2nd season in a car that is capable of winning. It's way too early to start questioning these things, because he's really only just started in terms of fighting at the front.
Also Charles has learned to manage his tyres very well, it used to be his weakness. But if the car is loose at the rear, as the Ferrari is, especially since Spa, then there's not much a driver can do if the only way to drive it is to hang it out a little bit to control the oversteer/prevent understeer.
Great analysis as always however, good points brought up.
What about Sainz tire wear?
Leclerc's biggest problem is that his driving style is to ride the curbs as much as possible. Sure it is fast but it wears the car and down, and puts him in a position to have accidents for smaller mistakes. This is why Monaco has generally been a disaster for him
Charles makes too many unforced errors though - he;s like 2017 Max and needs to get to 2021 Max to fight for a championship. Yes, the car and Ferrari need to match his performance as well.
The main difference is Max's team was behind him and helping him. Binnoto dislike Charles and would not help him over Carlos
The problem is not building a faster car is building a good team and leaders Mattia Binotto is one of them how he cant even figure out solution for their tyre degradation and Strategy issues that is their primary issue for years. It doesn't matter even if you build a rocket car if you cant even fix issues that existing for ages like Strategy and tyre wear you re not going anywhere. Take a look at RB and Mercedes how they quickly turn things up. I have never seen them not fixing their problems for long like Ferrari. To be precise this issues are existing from the years of Kimi, Alonso and Vettel. Im just gutted how they cant see this and refuse to fix. Its an issue of bad Leaders and management.
Ferrari will not change, they will remain the same crap next year but leclerc can change he really needs to lead his team and take more decisions by himself, sometimes drivers shouldnt listen his engineers and leclerc have seen of that too much, verstappen hamilton had moments where they go against their race engineers in some decisions. Leclerc needs to take more actions by himself when dealing with ferrari.
LoL, Go against Ferrari as a driver, ask Prost how that works out.
Anyone else find it weird the way the mechanic grabs Charles here at 10:53. Lol
The hair stroke omg 🤣😭
It's as if most of the comments are basing their opinions on the stats they see on Wikipedia
tbh i think it is prolly charles just overdriving the car at this point
I think He's too focussed on one lap pace. Ferrari had no chance of winning in 2020 and 2021. The only glory he could get in those years is qualify really well and in the process he's learned how to set up the car for 1 lap wonders. His biggest strength is also his biggest weakness as I think the one area he truly lacks compared to Max and Lewis is his racepace/tiremanagment. Which could be a consequence of setting up the car too much for qualifying.
Its about the same stats Lewis got, so i think he is fine
He's just not quite at the Max and Lewis level they are easy the top dogs
In short NO! This is more a Ferrari issue and not a Leclerc issue. The Ferrari car is just really good on one lap performance but struggles on race pace as the car is abusive on tires. Sainz seems to have similar issues in most cases as well so I think this is just a car characteristic. Charles has made some mistakes but overall done a honorable job and has been his first real attempt at going for regular wins. He is still pretty young and the RBR car is just a better "race" car.
It seems to me that Charles is not commanding enough both on track and off track.
He seems to be too nice, too polite and not the killer and leader needed to get the best car and become world champion.
If every car Charles has driven has problems with tire wear… maybe it’s time to address his ability to save tire?
Thing about bottas that stinks so much is he looses five spots or more usually before the first lap is completed. Sometimes before the first turn.
40 % of wins not from pole. He cuts through the field but can be too cautious.
we all know that Leclerc tire management is one of the best on the grid last year we all saw that he drove more than 40 laps in the dutch gp last year and binotto and many pundits said that Leclerc tire management is really good. I think its just because Ferrari is a tire eater
It´s a completely unusual stat that´s for sure.
But as always, context is everything.
I believe his performances on qualifying are very underrated.
His level over a one lap shoot out is competely off the charts in my opinion.
I believe no one other driver on the current grid, since 2019, would have more poles than Leclerc with Ferrari.
Not Max, not even Hamilton hammertime mode would do it.
It´s maybe controversial, but i really believe in that.
In terms of racecraft, Leclerc is not on Max´s level.
But he is not that far away either.
Which makes me think that, if Leclerc drove for RB, with the help of a much more well structured team, maybe he would be able to have many more wins.
His main problem during the races comes down to tyre wear.
I think it is just a natural weakness that comes with his driving style, but also, Ferrari is prone to overcook the tyres as well, and has been for a while now...
this combination, against Max/Checo and RB capability to preserve the tyres, is exposing Charles a lot during the races.
Starting the races in the backfoot like this, more often than not, cause the Ferrari strategists to panic, led them to make silly mistakes they wouldn´t normally do, but because they seem to be always on the edge of breaking apart , they do make them a lot, not only this season, but also in 2021, 2020...
So, i guess Leclerc is still growing as a driver, no doubt the stats are brutal, but they are also hidding the potencial Charles has to be dominant with Ferrari.
Fr 💀 almost all the time in career mode for me Charles always gets pole but never wins 😂
I appreciate the insight and content, but I don't agree w the Bottas analogy. His statistic and Charles' would be more comparable if Bottas wasn't playing second chair for the crown princess. Charles isn't in that position with Carlos
Ferrari needs an outsider to lead the team, not a passionate Italian, but a guy that's more direct with cause and effect.
Also Charles needs to man up, and take fortune in own hands, sometimes you have to be angry at the team and sometimes you have to do what you think is the best strategy.
1)Binotto Is Swiss.
2)I wouldn't call him passionate.
@@thatgoodfella5818 Also:
Chief strategist Inaki Rueda is Spanish.
Haven't watched yet, but we should be worried about Ferrari's inability to convert poles, he's missed on Bahrain, Singapore and arguably Russia in '19. Then Spain, Monaco, Baku and Hungary '22.
lets be real bad strategy and driver mistake = loose the race even with pole position
People don't realize that quali pace and race pace are far from the same thing.
Lecler is Ferrari Best Chance to take WDC, if ferrari bring back they strategy gameplay back in 2000-2006
I feel this issue is magnified with the need of the community to magnify every little thing Ferrari does wrong for memes
Of course you can't deny tyre wear nor charles being sometimes too agressive
But in all honesty if you go race by race where he took pole and didn't win the only one where there's not a good enough reason to explain it is France
And what's worse is that now there's loads of people saying Leclerc's shit/overrated, etc instead of just analysing things how they are
part of it is his inability to get his elbows out and fight, and part of it is ferrari's mismanagement. I think Charles needs to many things in his favour to rack up wins.
Lepole has been screwed over by Ferrari along with a few mistakes in his end. Hopefully will be better next season .
Don't understand why people would call Leclerc a pole merchand when clearly he hasn't had the car underneath him to achieve much more in races, mostly due to its tyre deg. Yes, he bottled it in France, but that was one race, and not a guaranteed win either. When the car has been capable (Monaco, Silverstone 2022), the team strategists haven't. It's not like he himself is a serial bottler, so given equal machinery, he'll undoubtedly convert way more poles.
He is different he wants to win the race at any cost if he had a good car like bahrain,australia and austria he can do awesome job he is relentless and good at strategy he is not like verstappen he is different, with less power car charles can clinch the pole position by his driving techniques and I want to remind u something 8 years of career poles is equal to 4years of career poles and race win it's very different there come strategy,timing,car reliability,downforce setup,tire management ......etc success will cover all the mistakes they have made....
“Merchand”? Surely it’s merchant, with a ‘t’.
Leclerc is very good and much better than Bottas for sure. Just look at his racecraft and the speed he has through out a race. Bottas could never keep up with Verstappen or Hamilton and Leclerc can. But Leclerc could have had more wins if he didn't crash as much as he does which is something Hamilton and Verstappen never do. Ferrari has a part to play in this as well but not as much as people think. Bad luck or engines blowing up doesn't count because every driver has bad luck at some point. If Ferrari was perfect Leclerc would still have less than 10 wins.
Verstappen is literally the opposite of this..he has 34 wins and what? 20 Poles?
Thank u for making a normal video. This f1 BS is getting on my nerves sometimes. I am here in good old san antoon Texas about an 1 1/2 hr drive from the Austin circuit. For the last 10 years I say I'll go but always end up watching it on the tely 😁 but I will say this. It 10am and at 2.30 pm we get united against the spurs 🇳🇱🤘🇨🇱
I am 90% sure that Charles will leave Ferrari and join Audi in 2026/7. He’s worked with Sauber before , he knows the team inside out
This is very sinple. The Redbull car is a faster car in the race so far this season. With the new regulations and the cars being able to follow better. He has no defence over a race against Redbull/ Verstappen. Plus lets not forget Ferrari very often as a team hit the self destruct button.
Rb18 tyre management is way better
Comparing Leclerc to Bottas is wrong. Bottas was a wingman for Mercedes, and won usually when Lewis was not in position of winning. Leclerc is a winner, and won more race than most drivers on the grid, but his problem is his team management and strategy and their preference for Sainz because he brings sponsors.
We can criticize him for some "mistakes" I would attribute to the stress his team is bringing not only by their incompetency, but also by the constant backstabbing.
I really believe Charles should leave Ferrari, even if they have the best car because they are ruining his carrer and credibility.
charles is clearly preferred over carlos lmao. IE silverstone when carlos was on fresh tires but they told him to stay back for charles
Remember, he did beat him in equal machinery. ;-)
CL not giving enough feedback afraid of Ferrari? Just food for thought.