LETS PLAY THE BLAME GAME! Jimmy’s new 434 TEAR DOWN!
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- Опубліковано 14 жов 2024
- Over the past few months, there’s been a lot of speculation over engine problems. And it seems like everyone has an opinion.
Especially after Jimmy Dale’s fresh 434 went down at War In The Woods.
I put a lot of speculation to rest and explain things in a way that hopefully everyone can understand. And show exactly what happened and why.
As an engine builder of over 30 years I figured one thing out. When shit blows up everyone always blames the engine builder. Successful racers work with their engine builders not against them. JS, I have mad respect for uncle Bob!
As a transmission builder I know what you mean lol
Wait I though it was the tuner’s fault, the engine guy thought it was always his fault, and the transmission guy always thinks it’s his fault, says a lot about the performance industry , most of the guys care, and want to learn how to overcome weak points, other industries tend to just point the finger at each other..
Engine builder or tuner
100%! Uncle Bob does incredible work, he puts his name on everything he does, nobody talks shit about an engine that kills it pass after pass, but let one thing go wrong and “the engine builder screwed something up!” Come on people.
That's the problem most racers don't now how to tune there engines
From one Oldman to Another, The comments were made by people who wouldn't know a wrench if it hit them in the Head. If so, The wrench would be Honoured for it's Contribution to Society. Thumb's up.
And likely 30 years old or less.
Headache! 😆
Well said. Being in the car hobby for 25+ years as a 44 year old I have never been so insulted at these morons who know nothing about engines tell me they make more power than my LS1 or 327 sbc that I have build with pride in my driveway. It sickens me but everyone has seen Fast n Furious so naturally we all make 1000hp even if we never held a wrench 😅
@@midsouth2strokes185I hate to tell ya this brother, but not everyone has seen the fast and furious. I may be the only one left but I’ve never seen it and I’m a car guy that’s older than you and Bill but have never been into movies cause I was always in the driveway working on cars, lol
Take care brother, be safe out there!!
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Haters are gonna hate out of pure jealousy and for that reason only! Bob is a badazz machinist and engine builder period!
Have you had him build you an engine? Have you been to his shop and watched him work? I'm not saying he is or isn't good at what he does cuz I've never done either of the forementioned things. So just wondering what makes you say that?
One of your best videos explaining failure analysis and you sir are spot on with knowledge and expertise. Old man garage for the win. 😎
It never seize to amaze me how many key board warriors are out there thinking that they know more about racing when in fact they know nothing about racing, it's called racing and anything can happen your pushing things to it's limits to win. Thanks for sharing this video Bill, I watched the SRC video earlier and they did a awesome job you all have the never give up attitude and eventually you all are going to be back in the winners circle. God bless and as always be safe.
I'm no mechanic nor driving at the moment, I comment on everything I see but never negative because over the year's of watching i realise just how many hours and hours it takes to do this racing and I feel so bad if testing goes well, seeing smiles all around only to break something on the first round...THE CAGE'S BUILT ARE 1000% NEEDED, WAR IN THE WOODS JUST GONE A DRIVER UNFORTUNATELY LOST CONTROL ON BUG END AND ENDED WAY INTO THE WOODS THEN HIT A BIG TREE...THANKFULLY THE DRIVER WAS SHOCKED BUT SHOWS HOW MUCH THE CAGE'S SURROUNDING THE DRIVERS SAVED HIS LIFE....
DON'T BE NEGATIVE , I REMEMBER MY MOTHER ALWAYS SAID " MOCKING IS CATCHING SON " MEANING THAT COULD BE YOU SOME DAY....
DON'T GIVE ANY OF OUR ATTENTION TO KEYBOARD WARRIORS WHO ARE AT HOME DOING NOTHING BUT USING MOM'S WIFI...JUST BEEN HONEST PAL..
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Not everyone goes through engines the way this guy does and they push them plenty hard Look at the Falcon but you must be as dumb as Bill is seem one hic-up and another SBC bites the dust also explains why all them after market aluminum blocks Billy was buying were wore out as well seems to me wanna push shit don't go SBC this channel has proven that time and time again.
@garyclarke2385 I was a heavy line gas and diesel tech for over 30 years and due to a accident that left me disabled, what part of my comment is negative I'm just telling the truth. I've had plenty of years racing back in the 70s,80s and 90s so I know things can go south in a hurry at no fault of anyone.
Yappity yap yap yap
I totally agree!👍
Cletus‘s engine was Steve Morris, engine from his own race car too. When you push things for racing. things happen.
Its a lock up converter issue I think.
That he paid for
No, when you turn off the fuel on a big nitrous shot, things happen lol. Unless you're driving Top Fuel, there is always a stronger part.
Bill, another reason why your channel is so well liked, you tell the story straight up!
Uncle Bob is an amazing guy and a hell of an engine builder! I wish I had someone like Bob in my corner! Great video as always!!
This team consistently goes rounds and i know Henson built the big block but Bob is a very big part of that team and the reason they keep the Falcon in the finals so often 100%
Amen
@erikkhyndman9184 He’s not the one tuning them or running them down the track. They run fine when he builds it and then shit happens. You think an engine builder is gonna take responsibility for what you do to an engine after it leaves their shop? Hell no!!
The old Nova looks like a lot of fun 👍🏻
This video is testament to the reasons you see old man's garage at a 100k views, Real people, making real world mistakes and explaining those mistakes instead of button pushing on a damn cell phone. Haters gon hate, I'm grateful for OMG, SRC, GEN2, Bob, and everyone that makes these videos happen. Thanks for being real
While I know nitrous will always be close to The Old Man's heart I'm starting to expect that turbocharging is creeping in as well. That smile in the Nova says it all LMAO. We need to get Uncle Bob some apprentices to help him with some of the easier work. And yeah I totally agree, people need to quit with the hate on him, it's total BS. Uncle Bob is the man!!!
Great video thanks for keeping us in the loop it make us feel like we're part of a team
Bypass the negatives and keep up the good work. Some of us don't comment much but you have inspired me to try to get back into racing after 20 years of being off the streets. Thanks for your content, I'm learning a lot.... And carburators rule!!!!
Absolutely
Injection is nice but (like you said) carburetors rule.
If a Carb. Is what you know and works for you, Then by all means use it. But what you need to understand is, That there's almost 3 generations of drivers that haven't ever driven a street car in there life with a carburetor. Let alone know where to even begin to tune on. Let alone tune one for racing. Google says 1990 was the last yr a carburetor was used on a new car in the United States. It doesn't matter what you use, Just have fun doing it.
This the racing game period. No one to blame. Love your videos keep it up.
Much respect guys and uncle Bucko, I was told by an old timer once, a machinist, also weekend engine builder, he always said, the way to find weak links, push it to the limit, you would be surprised of what moves around, bends, twist then breaks, build it tougher next time
Im a Ford guy, and i watch your channle all the time. They all breaks, ford, chevy, mopar, toyotos, and all the others. The more my stock block used to break, and i rebuild it, i learn a new lession every time and built it better. I have a dart block now thank god.😂
Hey bill just wanted to let you know It’s been over a year sober for me , and I greatly appreciate you and whoever replied on the src channel a year ago when I was in rehab at my lowest point you will never realize what those nice comments done for me in those moments it literally means the world to me , can’t wait to meet y’all and thank y’all in person also
Congratulations Blake Bateson
@@gregleenyit thanks I appreciate it
Good job bro congrats 💪
congrat man!
@@josephlay288 thanks man
I appreciate you Bill. Thank you and your boys for taking time to dig in and really dig in on what goes “wrong”.
U're not 2 blame, Bob sure isn't 2 blame. U guys do great work and it shows.
First off Congratulations to the couple getting engaged. Second Jimmy dale is lucky that's all the damage that happened when fuel went . Great video Bill y'all have a great week and stay safe
Great diagnosis! That's what separates the great from the hate. Keep up the awesome work
Same thing happened to us years ago. We ended up putting a Hobbs switch on the fuel pressure side to shut off if the fuel drops below a certain PSI
So I'm thinking the fact there was no fuel pressure safeguard is the reason it blew up. The breakdown was great but it appears to me the nitrous should never had been wired that way.
Folks don't want to fork out the money for these high tech engine management systems but if you think about the parts and machine shop bills, at what point has it paid for itself.
I think the safety cutoff switch was around $50 or $60
Bill, I want to take a moment to say, …. Between you, Mrs. Vickie, Billy, Tommy, Allison, and your illegitimate child, Jimmy Dale, you ALL HAVE BEEN PUTTING OUT SOME FREAKING AMAZING CONTENT!!!!💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻🏁🏁🏁🏁 We all know that you all have had your hands and shots FULL with broken “stuff”. However, we all miss your tutorials on tuning and new part changes and additions to get more out of our small blocks. I myself hope that you are able to sneak some of that back in once you get “caught up” with rebuilds/repairs!😂😂 Keep up the AWESOME CONTENT!!🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁🏁
Great content Bill. Thanks for the calm and rational explanation to the nay sayers
I love your channel I get nothing but pleasure watching you and your family and friends I thankyou for being part of my life look forward to seeing you guys
I for one appreciate that you defend the engine builders and the like. As you say, once a piece leaves their control, they can’t prevent problems. Racing is a game of experimentation and pushing limits. When you either try something that doesn’t work, or you exceed the limits and discover the weaknesses, you learn from it. That’s how you improve. You’re not talking about going for lunch in the family sedan here, you’re leaning on equipment, HARD! I love watching your channel and following along to see your processes and how you show when things go south and why. You don’t hide things. Good on you! The keyboard experts do nothing but spew their “expertise” and I’m glad to hear you bash them. Keep up the great work. Thanks guys.
Awesome video and love the explanation of what happened. Part of it you have to know everytime you start that car or truck it could blow to pcs. Love the videos keep it up man we watch all the families videos!
Thank you for the longer form content I love it.
Nice work Bill, gotta love the bench racers they keep life interesting.
Great video brother. If people are blaming Bob for this, we’ll that’s f’d up. Parts fail and the abuse that people put on them with power adders to go faster just helps them fail faster. Your Nova is looking good 👍
Well said. If you arent hurting it, you arent trying hard enough. Mechanical failures happen and is out of the engine builders control.
One thing you left out there even Steve Morris had a problem with his motor in his car this week... I'm thinking somebody has made the racing God's mad
I think uncle Bob needs a pat on the back for keeping up with everybody's blown up motors just from seeing him on the channel he seems like a super awesome and knowledgeable guy keep up the good work src and omg
Good video and spot on. Anyone who ever tells you they went racing and never broke anything or had any troubles………….Never went racing… Keep up the good work love the channel
Great explanation! My pops always told me when i was a young man. Any time you modify an engine with high performance parts you shorten that engines lifespan. Racing is hard on parts!!!
Hey Bill! You are absolutely correct. People that leave stupid comments have no clue what they are talking about! Glad you explained it. That’s the problem with social media to quick to judge. Drag racing can always be a crap shoot. You just fix it and move on. No figure pointing. Glad to see Billy and Tommy are starting out the season pretty darn good. Billy will get the Nova in shape that’s for sure. Stay safe! Looking forward to the next one. 😀😀❤️
Anything can fail at anytime, definitely nobody’s fault, especially when pushing it as hard as possible!
Amen Bill . Everyone deals with there problems with there stuff. I do think the parts we are buying are lacking quality issues. Be it with the materials we are getting to lack of part’s supply and demand. There are issues. Just my opinion. Keep up the great work and the boys and you and the team doing great . 👍🏻
Love the clarity on the engine problems and standing by your friend “Bob” the engine builder/local guy! Way to go Bill. NOS is great but can be a double edged sword.
Very good video Bill, thanks for taking time to explain everything. Life is a learning curve no matter what we do. Keep up the great video's ✌️
I love all your videos and knowledge you have with vehicles keep them coming
Great video Bill!! Racing is Racing anything goes an everything will happen at some point in time! I've been there done that. Thank you for all you do!!!!!
This is why I've ALWAYS been a supporter of this family that stems back to Kent Rose arm drop days. Bills always been straight forward and to the point and he's NVR steered me wrong on a NOS question. Bills smart and WELL experienced so people LISTEN he's right 99.9% of the time. Much love and respect Bill from us at Southern WV to you all. Hope to see you at Kent Roses race💯
A lot of people tend to have a lot to say when they’ve never been down the track themselves, we run NHRA super stock and have been fighting issues with the motor dropping valves for almost a year and finally figured out it had nothing to do with nothing to do with the internals at all. The block was just wore out and would start to expand after it got hot after a few passes and you can assume where that would go… it’s just one of those freak thing that’s nobody’s fault that happens in racing.
Very knowledgeable man . Reminds me of my grandfather, he would sit us down and explain things like this to us when we were kids in our shop . Love the channels
Great video Bill I really liked the guest appearance of Denny I love that guy he is so layer back and just a good Ole guy. Also I liked how you put it about it don't matter what type of engine it is shits going to happen well done. Well it's my day off so now I'm going to watch the video the boys put out last night I saved it for my favorite part of my day coffee time on my back porch. Have a great week and you and miss Vickie stay safe.
UNCLE BOB IS THE ULTIMATE GOAT!!!!!!!!!!! His engines are amazing and he never quits!!! always positive and that's what matters. Never blame the engine builder, the tuner, the driver or the delivery guy, its racing and SHIT HAPPENS!!!!!
Really Appreciate your time and Videos, Thanx for Sharing your experience and knowledge and Thoughts
You are exactly 💯correct
IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING GOOD TO SAY
KEEP IT TO YOURSELF
Have a Great Day 👍
God Bless America 🇺🇸🙏🇺🇸
I always try to approach problems by going on a fact finding mission, not a fault finding mission. Good luck and God bless. Stay Safe!
Night shift checking in, been waiting to see the carnage in the 434, you never go FULL JIMMY
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🇺🇸🦅🏁 You hit the nail on the head with the last comment Bill. People tear stuff up every weekend at tracks across the country. But nobody knows it unless you are pitted next to them. Even then they load up and head home before people find out. I done this very thing. But you guys have hundreds of thousands of people that see your videos. For someone to blame Bob or Steve Morris just shows how little they know about racing. Great video Bill. 🇺🇸🦅🏁
The way you explain everything is hands down the best,even individuals with learning disabilities can understand. Thank you OLD MAN
Uncle Bob is an amazing engine builder, never once have I blamed Bob for anything. Now, the last engine builder is a different story. When you're pushing these cars to the limit, stuff ends up breaking. Thank you for always keeping it real Bill
Best way to start the day is too watch SRC video and then your video all before I leave for work...keep up the great work Bill love all the content
I won't lie. I said I would never build another sbc or bbc and this channel has me loving them again.
Kenny’s new pet manatee is now named Hugh. Kenny built a shelter in the canal for Hugh to get some privacy. And that’s how Kenny got involved with Habitat for Hugh Manatee.
Lmfao😂
I want to groan at this terrible dad joke...but can't help but chuckle...lol
WHAT I SEE WEEK AFTER WEEK IS BOB AND SRC GOIN ROUNDS CONSISTENTLY AND ITS VERY IMPRESSIVE 💯
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I love the old man’s hatred of LS’s 😂 lol
I don’t hate them. I hate the idiots that claim we have to have one
@@theoldmansgarage I'm right there with you. I catch so much hate for putting a BBC in my car. It drives me nuts.
Next time get an LS compatible fuel pump don’t be left out in the cold
Good video as always. Cleetus isn’t running the same engine as Billy no more. He did all last year into the start of this year and he hurt that engine. Now he’s running that SMX which is capable of over 4000hp.
Well said old man❤❤❤
As a former engin builder it nice to see you take up for uncle Bob think you for the video Mr. Bill
Well said, Bill! Hopefully, that fuel pump issue got through to some folks.
People need to stop being negative. If you want to win in life you have to embrace positivity, not negativity!!! Mr. Old Man is being wise, level headed, and understanding. This is awesome traits to have, way to go Mr. Old Man for embracing positivity!!! Bob is a passionate engine builder that is amazing at his job. We need more awesome people like Bob in the world 🌎. Thanks for the video and preaching positivity, you ROCK!!!
Cletus actually has a new engine that's a billet SMX Steve Morris engine that's not his 540 anymore but he did 6.49 at 221 on a conventional 540 at 3500 lbs... He's having converter charge pressure issues and he keeps wiping out the thrust bearing Steve told him he had to get those under control it was going to happen again and it definitely did on the very next drag n drive he's learning everyday to
@freedomfox8183 You forgot to mention that engine cost Cleetus probably $100,000 dollars. Hell that could get you at least 10 Jimmy Dale engines.
One of your best videos I’ve watched of yours !! Everyone has something to say and have know idea of what we all do to these hot rods and the parts that we buy that we count on to be good and sometimes they’re junk. Great video.
Everything breaks when you run it hard like racing no matter who builds it or how much money you spend on it lol love watching thanks for sharing
Once you start going over 150 jet it gets a whole lot easier to screw shit up
Just keep doing what you're doing the way you're doing it. It's racing shit happens and then we move on, keep up the great job you guys are doing.
One thing I continue to hear you and the Kids keep saying that's inaccurate is a LS is a Small Block Chevy Yall tend to refer to a LS as not being a Small Block Chevy. The LS is a Gen III or Gen IV Small Block Chevy. The Small Block you refer to mostly applies to the Gen I Small Block. Even the Gen V LT based engines in the 2014+ are Small Block Chevys.
That’s why they call it racing. Things are always going to break. Keep up the good work. That’s part of it. Thanks Bill.😊
As an engine builder, tuner, and shop owner I KNOW EXACTLY what you mean!!. I go 110% for every person i do work for and get treated like poo sometimes.
BTW, I spray around 425 on two plates on my car and done this same thing to mine. I did a huge wheelie and hit the rev limiter and knocked a pinky size hole in 1 piston ! Ahit sometimes happens on that good Ole N2O. But so fun when it works correctly!
Cleetus and Billy's motors are completely different. Cleetus is running smx block.
They’re still similar big block Chevys with twins.
SMX is an LS based engine... so you sound not very bright... guess what engine Billy has?
Definitely talking about the 540 that was in car before the smx
@@Family_Ties_Racing 2018 I decided I needed to build the first fully water jacketed all billet engine that could utilize all the rock solid proven parts of the 481X! After 1 1/2 years of development I am proud to release the SMX engine.
This Engine uses all of the 481X common parts like valve train, cranks, sleeves, cams, lifters, intakes, gear drives, everything, all the readily available parts the ProMod guys use and have on hand. Rock solid, bulletproof and proven.
From Steve Morris website
Thanks for that. Made me think of when doc said he might have to take the finger. My response floored him. Which was do whatever you have to the best you can and we'll survive another day. With a smile on my face. Things happen and life moves on.
Great explanation of what went on. Race car stuff breaks. I lost a 2g race from a clogged fuel filter, it happens.
Well said Bill. Great video we all can learn from things that happen beyond our control . This information can help us all. Knowledge has value. Thx.
F the noise. We love channel as well as SRC.
Y’all the real deal. Much love and get the new shop built!!!
Love listening to your talk at the end.. you are such a good speaker, and knowledge aplenty. Thanks for the videos!
Recapping the run was definitely a heads up decision. The blame game blame is a knee jerk reaction before its diagnosed and investigated. You did good , Old Man..!! I hated hearing people talk about , in a negative way , about Bob. You are a true friend ....friends defend each other
Thanks old man. Third shift here. Still working on my 71 nova. Get there soon.
71 a good year alot of nice cars were made in that time
Bill you are the greates hero for those boys .God bless your family.🇵🇷
Very good explanation. As an old racer, I understand. You're a GOOD man!!!
Bill. I will have to say that you absolutely couldn't have said anything in this particular video that I could probably not said with such finesse as you did by far. I'm 57 years old and a40 year mechanic with much experience in foreign and domestic in both side stock to super high performance horsepower. My temperament would not of sounded half as good as you sounded. And brother, I mean business. We'll fucking done on your behalf. Amen.
Absolutely. When you are leaning on an engine hard and often… poop eventually will occur 🙂
Love the videos keep up the hard work. Can’t wait to see your ol nova make some hits!
You have to look at it like this. It is mind over mater { I don't mind what you say because you don't matter ). Don't worry about the haters they will always be there . Love your channel , keep up the good work.
I’m so glad you said that because they’re not gonna listen they’re just cheerleaders that’s all they’ll ever be. My 406 SBC gets feed 500 hp NOS regularly
I’ve never been beaten by an LS motor
So preach on brother Bill!!!
Well said old man. Keyboard warriors never cease to amaze me. HP breaks stuff.
Good report all around Mr. Bill. I like you guys integrity.
Great detective work on figuring out the issues, and thanks for passing it on to the masses.
Well said in the end.
I’d like to echo and add, how much nicer would it be if people would encourage and lift each other up instead of being so negative 🤔
Awesome video !!! Thanks for letting us know what goes on with motors and the teaching us about these kinds of things and what causes the problems. Well appreciated
The boys were pretty much right on at the races last weekend. Maybe Tommy needs to be a little better at negotiations, he should have stayed in the left lane like he wanted but gave into his competitor and it cost him . Live and learn! That Falcon is a beast!
Pops you are truly amazing man when you come up with the problem situation and solution it blows me away with your knowledge always have I have learned a lot off of your channel for somebody that don't know a whole lot it's always cool to hear you explain shit.... and those keyboard Warriors they are a joke you have a badass team and this year is already been off the chain but it's going to get better way better much love and respect all y'all pops I hope everybody has a great one hope to see you soon💚👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's a learning process for sure. My youngest son and I have (3)355 blocks in Arlo shop or part right now
Bob's the man! I wish I could get my motor work done by Bob..
I like straight shooters. No bull. There’s having fun. But to pass blame doesn’t help the problem get fixed. Cleetus has a great attitude. He said don’t start the blame game. Let’s just fix it and move forward. Great advice Bill. Haters gonna hate. Y’all keep up the good work, have fun, stay safe, and God bless y’all.
I'm just glad you guys make it home in one piece 👍
Thanks for everything over the years Bill
Boy Bill u are a very blessed man to have the family and life u have I envy you. I just lost my wife of six years to cancer most likely but they never did actually find out what was killing her but she isn't suffering anymore or in pain and that's all I can be thankful for but I would give my right arm to have what you have and I'm sure it gets hectic at times but I can deal with hectic to have such a blessed life as you and your family has. Keep up the good work.
Well explained Bill
Thunder thumbs people always are experts behind the key board