I have been doing this octave method using the seven 'six-note shapes' I saw in an older video of yours. I even made my own system based on that and the fretboard finally unlocked for me. I've technically been playing guitar for 25+ years, but my primary instrument is drums and I never put that much effort into learning the fretboard to a level where I could jump around freely and improvise without getting lost. I wish your channel existed when I fist started playing!
Claus, what a great example to break free of the cage! Yngwie plays so many runs of his trademark style down and up the fretboard, hardly ever boxing himself into a run that requires vertical acension.
No 1st position blues scale no party lol! Next your gonna tell me that there’s other keys besides E and A. Haha. This guy is awesome. I live the way he teaches
There's just something fundamental I don't understand about music. I can learn scales and shapes, but I'll never understand how things relate to each other or why things work the way they do. 🤷🏻♂️
@@StratsRUs I've learned a couple of scales already, my fingers can do it, but I have no idea what it means. It's just notes that sounds good together.
I suggest starting in C Major/A minor (which you are prob most familiar with). C M pentatonic and C M chord. You will see the penta notes within the Chord. Move to next Penta up staring on D and D minor Chord. you will see the notes for the scale in the chord. do that for all the penta shapes. for the chords remember I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi vii dim. If you do that with just the chords you've played the major scale with chords too. This should at least open up the idea that the scales and chords are the same thing. arpeggios are same as the chords but the notes are played in sequence. Fill in the missing notes in the pentatonic and you have the modes. I'd say pick a pentatonic shape. learn the chord, triads, arpeggio and mode that match up with it. A minor for example (or Am7). When you play you notice some notes sound better over the chord, it is most likely a note in the chord. arpeggios are great for finding the landing spots when playing through a scale.
Or…. Don’t use the CAGED method to begin with. This is a very common problem with CAGED players. Trying to fit musical concepts into the limited CAGED shapes is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I was there once and broke free by learning the 3NPS System.
I think both are helpful. I learned 3NPS when I first started, but found playing over changes and targeting chord tones difficult. Then I learned CAGED. This helped me switch keys and target notes from a particular chord. I tend to use CAGED to get me to the chord tones I want to hit but think 3NPS to move around while there.
@@suedeface That’s most likely because you didn’t learn chord tone targeting (or a arpeggio system) that works with the 3NPS System. All chord tones are contained within the same 3NPS positions for ALL the diatonic chords within the key. Then it’s just a case of shifting this diatonic 3NPS framework through other keys, if your playing over none-diatonic changes. Then there’s the diatonic “Sweep Arpeggio inversions” (6, 5 & 3 string ones) that are used with the 3NPS System so effectively back in the 80’s that’s long forgotten these days. Mixing these (or just visualising them to target chord tones) is a very effective method. Not just for shredding but for any style. I do understand that It’s much harder to find info on a complete 3NPS Method, as CAGED is everywhere. But after years of investigating and using both, i found the CAGED System came up short. It’s incomplete and not systematic at all. Learn the complete 3NPS System and your guitar playing life becomes much easier. Learn it as just “seven 3NPS Shapes” then it becomes incomplete and yes, you’ll need something else to complete the musical picture.
@@jazznotes3802 I guess they are all kinda one thing in my head. The 3, 5, 6 string arpeggios are just triads strung together, and overlap CAGED, and that overlaps extended chords etc.. Maybe it was my age. I was a kid learning in the 80s and that is when I learned those scales and arpeggios. But it wasn't until I was older that I saw how they all connected. Caged was just the tool I was using at the time. If someone is having difficulty seeing things connect I think it is a good tool to try to see things from a different angle. It is not the end. Certainly simple enough to explore and get started regardless of where you currently are even if you only play a couple pentatonic shapes. And as you mentioned the info is pretty easy to find. Learning it doesn't limit you but of course it is not everything.
@@suedeface Well said. After all we all have different goals, sometimes people don’t want to spend the time it takes learning every concept. Pentatonic scales might be all some people want to know.
I have been doing this octave method using the seven 'six-note shapes' I saw in an older video of yours. I even made my own system based on that and the fretboard finally unlocked for me. I've technically been playing guitar for 25+ years, but my primary instrument is drums and I never put that much effort into learning the fretboard to a level where I could jump around freely and improvise without getting lost. I wish your channel existed when I fist started playing!
We love Claus & his enthusiastic talking, but for short-cut 😅 bounce straight to ----» 5:45 😅😅😅
Spent 3 hrs doing this, fantastic 👍
I wish I had that kind of stamina
@@shreddykrueger3776 It took some pushing..🤘🏻
@@timothyleard my elbow hurts just thinking about it. I remember the days of playing on the summer holidays. 5-6 hours a day noodling no problem.
this is great thanks soo much been watching your vids what a great teacher
Best teacher ever! you can laugh while learning
Claus is a good teacher. I just wish my fingers were longer. My hands are smaller than his and he makes it looks so easy.
There are great guitarists with short fingers
Finger size or length doesn’t matter! It’s all technique my friend. I mean…unless your fingers are 2.5 inches long or something
Loving this concept! 🎸🎸🎸
Claus, what a great example to break free of the cage!
Yngwie plays so many runs of his trademark style down and up the fretboard, hardly ever boxing himself into a run that requires vertical acension.
I agree, thanks for the advice and I was already working on breaking out of p1 on this scale anyway
Will start immediately...
Awesome lesson Claus- working on this all week- I'll update later ;-)
this is awesome...after u get this shaped mastered...what would u recommend the next shape to master...major shape..? and diminished shape..?
Awesome ❤️
Ciao…non è possibile avere i sottotitoli in italiano?…
Thank you
No 1st position blues scale no party lol! Next your gonna tell me that there’s other keys besides E and A. Haha. This guy is awesome. I live the way he teaches
Doesn't this then become the new "box" we are stuck in and have trouble breaking out of it and playing anything different?
Charvel baby !! I love my DK Chlorine Burst !
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May i borrow those hands for one week? :)
Wow 😮 Excellent Claus ! 😨🤦🏻♂️
Why do I need to break out?
No need only want. Perhaps…
Lol! Girlfriends, always keep our feet grounded.
Ok, I'm ready to be shouted at again! :p
There's just something fundamental I don't understand about music. I can learn scales and shapes, but I'll never understand how things relate to each other or why things work the way they do. 🤷🏻♂️
Start seeing it as music in general. Start with the Major Scale.Everything comes from there , or is referenced to it.
@@StratsRUs I've learned a couple of scales already, my fingers can do it, but I have no idea what it means. It's just notes that sounds good together.
I suggest starting in C Major/A minor (which you are prob most familiar with). C M pentatonic and C M chord. You will see the penta notes within the Chord. Move to next Penta up staring on D and D minor Chord. you will see the notes for the scale in the chord. do that for all the penta shapes. for the chords remember I, ii, iii, IV, V, vi vii dim. If you do that with just the chords you've played the major scale with chords too.
This should at least open up the idea that the scales and chords are the same thing. arpeggios are same as the chords but the notes are played in sequence.
Fill in the missing notes in the pentatonic and you have the modes.
I'd say pick a pentatonic shape. learn the chord, triads, arpeggio and mode that match up with it. A minor for example (or Am7).
When you play you notice some notes sound better over the chord, it is most likely a note in the chord. arpeggios are great for finding the landing spots when playing through a scale.
Or…. Don’t use the CAGED method to begin with. This is a very common problem with CAGED players. Trying to fit musical concepts into the limited CAGED shapes is like trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. I was there once and broke free by learning the 3NPS System.
I think both are helpful. I learned 3NPS when I first started, but found playing over changes and targeting chord tones difficult. Then I learned CAGED. This helped me switch keys and target notes from a particular chord. I tend to use CAGED to get me to the chord tones I want to hit but think 3NPS to move around while there.
@@suedeface That’s most likely because you didn’t learn chord tone targeting (or a arpeggio system) that works with the 3NPS System.
All chord tones are contained within the same 3NPS positions for ALL the diatonic chords within the key. Then it’s just a case of shifting this diatonic 3NPS framework through other keys, if your playing over none-diatonic changes.
Then there’s the diatonic “Sweep Arpeggio inversions” (6, 5 & 3 string ones) that are used with the 3NPS System so effectively back in the 80’s that’s long forgotten these days.
Mixing these (or just visualising them to target chord tones) is a very effective method. Not just for shredding but for any style.
I do understand that It’s much harder to find info on a complete 3NPS Method, as CAGED is everywhere. But after years of investigating and using both, i found the CAGED System came up short. It’s incomplete and not systematic at all.
Learn the complete 3NPS System and your guitar playing life becomes much easier. Learn it as just “seven 3NPS Shapes” then it becomes incomplete and yes, you’ll need something else to complete the musical picture.
@@jazznotes3802 I guess they are all kinda one thing in my head. The 3, 5, 6 string arpeggios are just triads strung together, and overlap CAGED, and that overlaps extended chords etc.. Maybe it was my age. I was a kid learning in the 80s and that is when I learned those scales and arpeggios. But it wasn't until I was older that I saw how they all connected. Caged was just the tool I was using at the time. If someone is having difficulty seeing things connect I think it is a good tool to try to see things from a different angle. It is not the end. Certainly simple enough to explore and get started regardless of where you currently are even if you only play a couple pentatonic shapes. And as you mentioned the info is pretty easy to find. Learning it doesn't limit you but of course it is not everything.
@@suedeface Well said. After all we all have different goals, sometimes people don’t want to spend the time it takes learning every concept.
Pentatonic scales might be all some people want to know.
The secret is to use your ears.