Force Academy | Arranger Mode
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- The arranger is the powerful mode on Force for completing your ideas. Watch as we take our clips, automation and more and record them into the arranger.
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THIS, the arranger view, this is the view we need in all MPC standalone boxes.
WOW this is fantastic! AKAI FORCE is now unbeatable. It has no competitor in this segment. AKAI you heard requests from musicians like me for an ARRANGE MODE and you created it. I honestly never thought that an Arrange Mode as complete as this one was possible. Now I'm going to buy an AKAI Force. Thank you AKAI, You are the best! WOW I'm so happy !!!
I still prefer the song arrangement mode on Roland Verselab MV-1. My Force doesn't get used as much as my MV-1 anyways since the Force is stuck in 4/4, and most of the songs I write are in 3/4, 5/8, and 7/8. Force sorely needs an option to set time signature, which is a basic feature of most music production devices and grooveboxes.
Ableton and push is 100x better
This guy is excellent at telling you what he’s going to hop into, before doing it, without it explaining how he did it, after he’s done it.
As a maschine user to this very present day I must admit and agree with the comments on here!
Force has really raised the bar here and there is absolutely nothing else in the standalone market that can compete with it,as for Maschine + it doesn’t even come close to what The AKAI Force can do with the new update!!
I loving the look of things if I am being perfectly honest!...Well done AKAI!! 🙏
Yo a force is under $1k I’m a Maschine owner too but I may sell my push and roll with the force and keep my MK3 instead of selling MK3 and push for the +
Been using this machine for a little over a year now. I constantly surprised at the features I discover all the time. I use it to control eight hardware synths via midi usb and it’s flawless. I also take it on the go with a battery backup. I’m always impressed with the updates too!
How do you route the audio from your hardware synths? Is the audio via USB or do you go through an external mixer? Cheers
After watching this video, i purchased an Akai Force. Thank You for inspiring Akai.
Long time MPC user here (late 90's). Please implement this feature in the other MPCs as an alternative to song mode in a future update.
Bravo! 👏🏾 I was already loving the Force, this is absolutely unbelievable! Effect chains/racks!! 🤯
This was an excellent and well-produced tutorial video. These are the new features that really sold me on the force. Thank you for explaining things so clearly!
We need this on MPC X, live and one! Damn that's fantastic
I have Force and MPC’s…… I prefer Song Mode but use my Force MORE
Can You Help Me Understand Why We Need This On MPC?
@@HunnitAcreWoods so we can edit and program a song with a singer way faster without the need of a pc
@@gedista and isnt that one of the goals of the FORCE product itself ?
@@synkuk i dont know what the goal of of force is. But as an mpc user seeing this feature is looking very nice. I would love that on the Mpc as well
Good job Akai! The only thing I think this update is missing is cut, copy and paste across multiple tracks. But, considering your excellent track record, I’m sure will see this in a future update. 👍🏽
I feel this is the natural evolution for MPCs. Anybody who knows the MPC well will understand the frustrations when it comes to arranging. AKAI should push this to all models.
After months of research on the Force vs quite a few others products I just pulled the trigger and I am super siked because I really know this is going to take my set up to the next level. Many thanks for your tutorials they certainly help my decision.
this needs to come to mpc x
i really would see AKAI fixes first some (little) anoying bugs & expands on the sample/program/grid/MIDI control editing possibilities
🙏🏼
@@wavejockey for me its not 'if or" and more of an update which fixes bugs along with this. pretty much like the force update. this arranger is not all that came with the firmware update, it also came with bug fixes
Please please bring a similar arranger to the MPC, it’d be an absolute game changer
Absolutely right!
when will this be available on MPC Live or X?? this is a must-have!! :)
I want MPC to have an arrangement mode. but I don't think the faithful will allow it.
Will the MPC Live II get this feature or should I sell my MPC Live II?
It is the best device! Just the best Deivice! I've been waiting for this all my life! Great Thanks AKAI! You are the Gods!
Good Job Akai, you made a lot of people happy
This absolutely crushed the maschine in my opinion. Cheaper and more feature rich
This is a straight up response to NI.
This over the maschine plus? I'm deciding whether to buy the force or the maschine plus. Your response will help a lot. I'm more into house reggaeton and hip hop
@@cruzferrer9025The force in my opinion just became the top portable music production system. It has more features and with a touchscreen. I would go with Akai. With maschine you'll have to do alot of your editing through knobs. I have an Mpc live and this update has me look at the force. Hopefully the Live has an update like this sometime next year.
@@chrisbeatzofficial7063 appreciate the quick reply bro. Another question does it come with good amount of gigs of instruments? Or would i need to buy some separately?
@Akilleus are the speakers legit on the live 2?
Dear Akai, please please can we have the ability to record automation to the master channel in the next firmware update?
Thanks for the feature suggestion.
@@AkaiProVideo I want this too... master fade out please!
Haliluah! Hurrah! An arranger is finally here! It remains to implement the ability to work with third-party plugins, for example from Waves. And then there will be no price for this device!
Christmas comes early. Thanks Akai.
Just need a ableton style spectrometer to tune all samples to key for this and mpc!!!!!!!!!! Got a live v1 but this is definitely next. Hands on ableton.......wow!!!!!!! But seriously need that tuner 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
+1
Please bring a similar arranger mode to MPC. That would be a huge success.
How to automate the temp on Akai Force?
Yeah :) MPC LIVE too? ;)
An arranger mode integration into the Mpc software is def a key argument to go for Mpc instead of machine
Quite the opposite: the MPC’s don’t have an arranger mode, only the Force has.
Maschine, on the contrary, has a full song arrangement mode.
So unless you get a Force, there is no arrangement mode in the MPC world…
It's a great update. Thank you Akai. Should we still wait to be able to record directly to DWA? Why not use Force as an audio interface through USB?
Seriously, if we don't get something like this for the MPC 3.0 update... I'm picking up a Force 😂
The biggest thing to get my head around is that this arranger does not allow for inserting or moving of clips. You basically print the song info onto the timeline in real-time and can go back and edit but cannot simply move the parts/clips around via drag and drop as you may expect. I hope for the ability to insert clips at any position and copy/paste clips across the time line. That would make this a lot more flexible and reduce the reliance on real-time perfection during recording. Thanks 🤞
Nicely presented.
Any chance of an external audio tempo sync for us live performers? Auto sync to a live drummer would be a dream.
In the arranger though, I basically have to edit MIDI all in a single 'clip' for a single track, which stretches the whole length of the song. This can be extremely tedious and time consuming. It would be good if we could have the ability to have 'blocks' along the timeline, like pretty much all DAWs. These blocks are just useful for being able to edit that second of MIDI notes/automation and to be able to copy and paste blocks along the time line. The blocks are not really individual entities (like a clip), but rather a way to greatly improve the speed of editing.
Thanks for the feature request.
Maschine has that feature (called clips) …
I just got mine at the weekend. Quick thank you for these videos. I've a Live 2 also and the videos are the best on the web for instructions. The only thing I will say is it's hard to find the folder in UA-cam for a complete instruction. This is not your fault it seems to be how UA-cam group videos. For instance if I search AKAI Force it would be great if in your UA-cam page it just split the instructions up for each device.
These videos are so well done they really should be getting maximum exposure.
Wooooow this is an incredible tutorial. This is the best next thing to a daw in a box that I've seen. Just bad ass 🤘🏻
Wait what?😮 This is exactly what I was hoping for the MPC live 2. How is it such a big difference between the force and the live 2 software? The force seems like a real DAW. That is awesome but unfair at the same time. I am feeling weird right now and kinda won’t the force. But I love the live 2 more. Damn my brain 🧠 ⚡️
I need the damn arranger mode on the MPC 😩😩😩😩😩
Really hope this comes to the mpc x!
Pretty sure it will in firmware 3.0
me too 🙌🏼
Came here just to post this same comment. I got the one. Here to hoping 🙏
Yes! The arranger would make the X/live/one extremly sexy
I really loooove this music ! This track is it available on plateforms ?
Quite powerful stuff, but the only way you can create an arrangement is by playing it, which is a bit limiting.
I wonder whether this feature is being kept out of the MPC range to keep up the Force sales volumes….?
Oh yeah this is awesome! But now we have arranger mode it would actually be really convenient to have a "full fledged" metronome, like the MPC has, so you can actually see the correct grid if you work In more "unusual" time signatures like 7/4. Also would be nicer for syncing the Force with external instruments. @Akai could we ever expect this in future updates?? I understand that is never has been really necessary, and if you want you can easily do 7/4 or other time sigs on the Force, but now we can arrange the whole song on the Force, access to a grid that can handle every time signature would just really make sense, also for better integration with Ableton projects that might change time signature in the song and stuff like that.
Gotta say when the FORCE first launched I wasn’t that interested, but with the updates (specifically the arranger mode) makes it look extremely enticing.
That's a cool deep house sound. Nice video.
This akai force is fantastic !!! Add plug in equivalent at serum plugin and it's perfection
Can you arrange without recording into the arranger? Can I send clips to the arrangement in sequence?
I would prefer to arrange that way too.
@@jorgkretzmann7230 me three. An “insert clip” option would do the trick.
fantastic job AKAI!!!!!!
Finally the Force feels complete. And now the MPC users are jealous! I hope Akai starts marketing this to compete head to head with the Maschine Plus. The Force has it beat hands down.
MP users, like myself aren’t mad at all, Force owners are apart of the family, Force is like MPCs cousin, we happy for yall☝️
Crunchy Chris jealous? I have the force too.🤣
Wrong! Some of us own both and the ability to sync 32 devices why would anyone be jealous, one big happy Akai family.
@@tmance3277do you really sync 32 devices? I’m curious to know your setup!
@AkaiProVideo What about being able to handle the XY Pad view externally, like for example using a Tablet touch device (Android/iOS)? It could really boost up the performances in live situation as long as providing a way to record it's automations while having the Arranger view opened on Force.
i think i can do that with a (e.g.) novation Remote, that has a X/Y touchpad which you can can assign any MIDI cc or sysex string
Also the classic Kaoss Pad 3, pretty cheap these days and it has a MIDI option so it can be mapped to whatever.
Great update. Could you make it possible to store midi data in clips as well? In the arranger, that is. Such everything would look like the audio clips.
And then allow move, copy, paste.
Akai, we're still here in 2023 asking for this arranger on the new updates for the MPC song mode. I just sold my MPC X and ordered my XSE so it will be more in tune with updates.... Bring the undisputed trophy home with that linear arranger style on the MPC line song mode please.
Is it possible to establish different musical temp for different launches on Akai Force? If possible, I will buy your device immediately and I will advise friends!
I have a MIDI track that only contains MIDI cc automation data but in the arrangement view, nothing is displayed on the track. Is there any way to display automation in the timeline? and if not, can we get that sorted for the next firmware update please?
Great suggestion.
Actually it needs for the Envelope follower to be in sync with the clock.. THAT makes it *somewhat unstoppable
I love the arranger mode but yall forgot one HUGE key that really hindered me tonight, Time signature changes. I have a two part song that I need to write BPM automation on, and I can't sadly. Not a deal breaker but extremely frustrating.
Can somebody tell if i am doing something wrong? When i am in arranger mode, and want to apply a hp filter on track 1, and i load it as an insert, the knob display does not show any parameters? But when i play back the arrangement, i can already hear a filter automation, even tho i did not record it? The Knobs are set to project. Thanks!
Pretty wild that you don't even touch on the crossfader for performance here. The performance options now are amazing.
Can you arrange by manually programming the order in which each sequence is played like you can on the mpc (ie intro, verse, chorus, verse, etc)? Or do you have to actually record and play the sequences during the recording process?
You have to record your arrangement into the arranger.
This Seems Nice To Have On A Software That Arranges Music This Way, But I Really Don't See Why People Think This Is A Necessary Feature For The MPC Software...
This is great; is it possible to record the inputs (as their own track) whilst live recording the automation?
anyone else hear that "alright" sample thats on dom dollas "pump the breaks" lmao?
I have my kill eq's on my master chanel and am confused if you can record this into the ranger or not?
Can I record audio directly into the arranger or do I have to make a clip first?
direct
I have bombarded you with questions about akai force before. I am on that place again but that's a quick one. I haven't figure out how to do a proper two channel mic-in recording, I am only getting so far the left right thing. Is there another way? Note that I am on 48000, and sorry again but it's kind of crucial with the artist I am working right now. Like imagine a singer songwriter guitar/vocal live recording situation.
How do you unsnap the loop point in the arranger? So you can set it anywhere not just snap on a particular section in the grid?
2 years and 4 new Mpc's later, and we still dont have the song arranger mode on all Mpc's 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Ive been waiting for this moment since i ordered during pre release. Thank you Akai for pulling through
I was really waiting for this update and AKAI did a really good job on this one. But: I find that there is a lot of menue diving involved accessing all these new functions and features. Maybe it' s just my brain that finds it difficult as a long time Maschine user, where everything seems to be more streamlined interface wise. Had this problem while testing out the current MPC line, too. Making beats wasn' t a problem at all but when it came to mixing I found the menues to be very confusing.
Yep I’m with you on that. I’ve been using iPad (nanostudio 2 and BeatMaker 3) they are so much easier to use on a touch screen than the mpc software. I find the mixer over complicated and the song arranger also longwinded. The song arranger is a big deal and I’m hoping this is going to cross over to the mpc range. I own the One and it’s superb. First time back to Akai since I bought the 2000xl new. Which is why the old sequence layout seems a bit dated now. It worked really well on the older MPCS with the tiny screen but it’s just not needed now we have touch screens. The hype synth would be a good addition on an update too. Akai have really upped their game in the last 3 years and it’s going to take time to polish the software I guess. The mpc beats is a also a great idea.
@@Marco-ek8wu You made some good points. I went with an MPC, too but chose the less features approach. Got myself a MPC 1000 and maxed it out with parts from MPCstuff 😎❤️!!!
@@MakingMadBeats ahhh, the 1000 a nice bit of kit. Still looks good. I’ve got to say though the new MPC One is a really great machine. The fx, synths, the included pc software, touch screen .... I could go on for hours. You just get so much for the money. Its way more portable than the live2 (which I returned), just needs a battery on version 2 and I’m all in for an upgrade.
@@Marco-ek8wu I feel you! I had ordered a One and tested it for round about 2 weeks. The touch screen wasn' t a big help to me, mainly used it for naming tracks samples. It just didn' t click with me as an instrument when using the MPC One. But: Everyone has his preferences and it' s great to have so many gear to choose from.
great tool!
Wait.. I just tried arrange first time and I used solo to arrange my performance and arrange mode didn’t pick that up.. do I need to adjust something?
The loop are not in perfetto sync
Im gonna buy it and wait for streaming from disk..
Bring it to the MPC
Sell everything buy force
Very nice! On my wishlist now.
So this is why non-MPC users have issues with sequence/pattern mode??? Because they are used to editing all the tracks of a song in a linear way???
How does it work when I export projects from ableton with external plugins to Akai force? And for the opposite. How do Akai force plugins will appear on Ableton? Only with wave Stems?
Nice, but I hope you guys will show some of these features using classic Hip Hop instead of this house any trap music crap! Is the Force just made for this kind of music? If so, I’m sending mine back!!!
Fhmm
Be the FORCE with You.
Taken from Nick.T
Ok add a third party vst and automation on master and I will sell some off my other gear yahoo 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
what is peoples opinion on the pads? i just got it... so called new from a certain online store but the box was opened already so that sucked...and i dont find the pads that nice. i hit a pad it register the hit but i need to hit and hold it a lot firmer to get a sustained note. doing paradiddles on drum pads.. sometimes its cuts off or chokes the sample.. even though the hits seem regular. just pads seem a bit funky to me. not like i expected. even on the most sensitive setting ..
Question.....If I import my own loops inside the Force, does that count as a audio track, because I know the Force limited to have 8 audio tracks.
how can i copy a clip in the arranger without pressing record ?
Is there a "export all tracks" separately option in the export mode on the arranger mode?
If not can that be a update later on?
Hi there great tutorials!
Question if I want to use amd record projects in the arrange window as my record main screen without using the matrix, can I do it?
I have a problem understanding the quantization topic. I did record drums in the arranger 6/8 feeling I use the TC 1/8, Triplets but when I record my breaks the tc dosnt want them to be in bit. Does this make sense??? Where can I learn about this like deeply? Thanks
Can anyone tell me or help me.
I keep making songs and recording into arranger. And my kicks and bass never record. It shows and I hear it when recording.
Playback and no bass
I'm new to producing and just got the force about 6 months ago.
How does arranger mode interact with live instruments being recorded (XLR inputs)?
MPC NEED THIS MODE!!!
Amazing stuff
Fantastic update! 👍🏻 thank you Akai! I must be doing something wrong though, when playing my drumkit patterns on the arranger I only hear the snare playing, no hats or kicks or anything else, any ideas what could be the problem? 🧐🥴
Found the solution, I hade TC/Time division on "1 Bar" prior to another individual Clip recording, didnt know I had to change it back to "off" or shorter steps when in "arranger". 🖖🏻👍🏻
Is there a way to save my arrangement as scenes? I want to use my arrangements in live sets
can you copy a song / arrangement yet ?
Is this device still stuck in 4/4, or did they finally add a time signature feature like on the MPC Live 2? I returned my original Force due to this glaring omission.
What about midi sequences from external synths?
Why the other mpc’s don’t have the arranger mode baffles me
ola. love it so far. one question, as i mix all my sounds in the subchannels and add mostly effekts and x/y pad there, i can't figure out how to record automation on this as it is not involved in the arranger mode. is there any way to do this. for example i have 2 selfmade drumkits always in subchannel 1, where i put the filter on both & 2 kits on 2 tracks so i can use the fader to fade between them, this is neccessary for my performance recording. i dont find a way to really record the "full performance" as said....thankful for any help!! As i see now, it is just possible to use the record automation funktion on normal trackchannels, but not the fader- performance and subchannel fx.
Hey did you ever find out if it’s possible?
@@juliancouture6619 in the new update its working ;)
This mode record live2 and mpcx ?
Can you record automation while recording the arrangement or do you need to lay down the arrangement first and then add automation later?
You can do both
I hope the mpc get this
can it have as many tracks as a mpc x ?
MPC X does not have an arranger