Honestly, Shad’s can be both. If he held it reversed it would act like a Goedendag. Would almost suggest that as the main use against foes and use the saw blade as a tool for post-fight dismemberment.
yes true but i would also like to point out that Tyranths weapon is not the best at either . so which is more important? do u need both blunt and sharp? or do u want a specialized weapon that can do one thing really well? as good as the flail is i would pick the saw on stick cause zombies are very unpredictable and keeping distance while dealing damage is very important so i think the saw stick wins
Interesting side note; there's this idea in the zombie apocalypse subgenre that silent weapons are the best because there are *always* more zombies and you don't want to alert the hoard. Taking that into account, the saw-club has a rather unique drawback, given that the blades can ring loud enough to hurt the user's ears.
I was thinking about this during the video I was like holy s*** that would be a really bad weapon in the zombie apocalypse because you wouldn't be able to kill a zombie without alerting all the zombies nearby
@@darkblade51224 yeah cause he flicked the side of the blade causing vibration. But when he hit the coconut, melon etc it didn't vibrate, at least not as much and therefore didn't make a noticeable ringing sound.
Genuinely surprised by how clean Shad sliced the water bottle. On another note, I enjoyed this video, and once again shows why I like Shad having his crew with him. It goes from just making a video, to making a video of tou screwing around and having fun with your friends who also share your interests.
What would work better for Nate's death Flail would be a thick motorbike chain. That way it's not so random in its movements and it's more of a controllable vertical strike. I'd love to see how it performs versus the regular chain
@@robertlewis6915 Apparently Matt Easton tried out a replica of an actual antique flail that used the same type of chain, so I'd at least say that someone else thought it was a good idea for a weapon.
Shad's "Sawthe" looks like it would be a pretty good tool for cutting branches. I have some experience with that and most of the tools you can get for reasonable prices are weak and break easily. A saw bolted to a big stick? Not so much. I'll have to steal that design for science later
Guys please do this again, it was so much fun. If revenue permits, up the budget and have some more time dedicated to it. I think Shad's scythe would be interesting to see with a few saw's stacked ontop of eachother and spot welded/bolted. Then take the teeth off and grind an edge on it if even possible. Great video!
Taking the teeth off the saw makes the weapon basically a brush axe, equivalent to a billhook, which is a fantastic weapon. I think it'd definitely work better to have a smooth blade instead of small teeth for sure. Zombies aren't going to care much about the tearing action, though regular human Raiders will.
I hoped he'd make a halberd. You put an axe blade and a knife on top, or sharpen the top to a spear-like degree. Really easy to make and rather effective
@@butwhataboutdragons7768 Yes! That's what it looked like in my head anyway (billhook). The teeth in my mind would get stuck in clothing more often and that's no good for pesky raiders. We want a clean chop xD
I think ideally for me... I'd have put Tyranth's sawblade design on Shad's polearm handle, and hopefully found a way to add a long topspike. Make it a poleaxe sort of deal.
Same thought. Givw it a spike, just need to pierce the skull, so cutting isnt as ideal as something that can split or pierce the skull. I'm on the Death Flails side for this alone
Even on the current one, adding a spear shouldn't be too hard: you already have two attachment points, I would mount a metal plate opposite the top axsaw blade and add a washer, then under the bottom axsaw blade. Then sharpen to a nice, hefty spearpoint! Then it becomes a shortspear-axsaw!
@@willowd2696 My main issue with the flail is that you would literally be better off just grabbing a sledgehammer than using one with the hammerhead on a chain :p Other than that, yeah, blunt is definitely a very viable choice when fighting zombies. Smash heads open and no need to worry about your weapon getting stuck.
@@Arbaaltheundefeated Completely agree! If those three are the only options though I'd want something smashy smashy over something cutty cutty for zombie scenarios
Classic cylindrical spikes aren't a great option for piercing skulls. The bone can grip the spike and hold onto it. Struggling to dislodge weapons is a disqualifier in a zombpocalypse. Though I believe there are some shapes meant to prevent that.
Saw Scythe wins for me, for one reason above all. It's a polearm, and in a zombie apocalypse keeping distance is even more important than usual. Tyranth's might be a decent side arm though, it seems to me like a modern interpretation of a macuahuitl.
Definitely the Saw Axe. Wieldable one handed, so you can use a shield. Effective as a basic DIY and it's easily made deadlier by simply sharpening it. Easy to swap blades out and easy to carry backup blades.
Versus people shields are great but I feel zombies would simply latch on and make it a hindrance. Having a versatile weapon and using the additional range along with the possibility of having a hand free to manipulate objects and use improvised weapons and environmental advantages seems like a better option in a zombie world.
@@stingerjohnny9951 And at which point did i imply i was defending the hammer flail? Unless the saw staff suddenly shapeshifted into a hammer flail then i never did.
@@kirakyuti5946 Oh I’m not implying you were defending it, I was just taking the opportunity to dunk on flails, as that is a noble and just thing to do.
I will just go in my shed & turn up a submachine gun on a lathe in 1/2 an hour. I'm a former Fabrication, Mechanical & electrical engineer till my failed health so I will still having running water & electricity while most don't even know how to make soap. Hygiene, water & food is more of a worry then mobs, zombies or some such hoopla. I have about 20 gallons of water in drums I made up of food grade catering steel with 4 & 1/2 month of non perishable stocks as honestly I don't like leaving my house spending more time in my rose garden then anything of late reading a book in the day till the weather gets to my bones.
Amazing video, I'd watch more of post-apocalyptic weapon-crafting competitions! PS: I think Nathe's weapon would be lovely if the chain was shorter, the handle longer and maybe the hammer a little smaller (although shortening the chain may be enough to make it less top-heavy)
I think what the flail-like weapons need is a hand guard protector that extends downwards from towards the tip of the stick/pole part. Something like a spiraling outwards metal piece could work. That way the user could safely get leverage from further up for a moment and then retract the hand back once the flail is in motion.
@@ccelik97It doesn't need to be that complicated, a simple ring to stop the top hand entering the rebound zone should be fine [edit] never mind, I see you want the hand inside that zone.
Stronger than each of these weapons alone is the tactics available combining them. Shad's spearsaw would be great to trip up zombies for Nate's finishing smash, while Tyranth's bastardsaw is maneuverable enough to provide cover for any breaking through. Honestly devestating combo
this is implying someone would want to be near Nate while he swings that thing around. let's be honest, a double pendulum for a weapon ain't exactly the definition of control.
@@anonymousmonkey9491 Agreed, yet that's where the polesaw would greatly help. First to provide a more stationary target for Nate's swing, and second to provide Shad safe distance from Nate's swing. Granted, a sledgehammer would probably still be more effective, but at least the "flail" looks cool
Really neat ideas. I would make the DeathFlail's handle slightly longer and the chain a bit shorter, to enhance control. The WarSaw is a fantastic cutter "out-of-the-box, so to speak. Add in a clip point so you could do some (limited to be sure) thrusting with it, maybe. The FallOut4RipOff might be improved by removing every other tooth. As they are, I'd take the RipOff for sheer versatility. With the suggested mods, the WarSaw would shine. The DeathFlail would be fantastic for someone more, ahh, muscular than myself. Great work, everyone!
I think tyranth's fallout double saw won over all. Just the smaller profile for ease of carrying, and overall use makes it a solid pick. Would love to see you guys try how effective they are against the tire armor!
Plus the ease of use. You'd definitely need to train with a flail to not knock your own teeth out (still not guaranteed), and using a spear-like weapon could be hard if you don't know what you're doing. You could hit walls with the other end, bang it all over the place. But with a bat? Just swing. No need for training, no tactics really needed. Aim for head, swing.
I've always felt that a Spear is best suited to a Zombie outbreak. Take a pitchfork, remove all prongs barring a central one; you've got a decent short spear.
I absolutely loved this challenge! Would probably have to go with the saw scythe, myself - primarily because it seems like it would be the most versatile to use as both a weapon and a tool, which would definitely make it more "valuable" in the apocalypse. If you plan on doing more apocalypse videos, I would love to see the trope of sports equipment as armor really put to the test. Maybe put it up against the weapons that were crafted in this video, even?
The production value and quality of these videos your guys are making just keeps going up! Love all this good content your guys are putting together for us
Shad definantly had the right idea, it was just his execution that was lacking. The most important things to remember when fighting zombies is to stay out of melee, and to disable them or destroy the head. Essentially, you want a halberd. Something that will keep them far far away that can chop off limbs and heads.
i think a handsaw blade is just too flimsy for fighting zombies, polearm is definitely a smart choice, just wrong type of blade, attaching a machete blade or something would be far more effective.
This video was really engaging and fun. The gags and building timelapses gave me mythbuster vibes. And you three competing with eachother with your own ideas made me very curious to see the ending results. One of the best videos I've seen on this channel in a while. Great work.
With Shads I would suggest mounting so the "shtick" runs along the backbone of the blade with a blade in reverse too. Nate needs to make a flail like a whip with multiple small chains and a longer handle. Tyranth should add more blades and an end spike.
The logical step after apocalypse armor and weapons: Apocalypse vehicles! Edit: Those scenes at the utility store just prove those places are like toy stores for adults.
If you make a continuation to this, homemade swords would be cool. I’m curious how sharpened sheet metal welded to a bike handle or metal pipe compares to actual, professionally built swords
I'm really digging the black and red motif in everyone's gear. Also was a fan of the war scythe. There are some handsaws that are reinforced that would have probably helped with the overall flex. I like keeping some distance and if need be a polearm could block up a hallway.
I want to see these up against axes, hoes, hammers and other stuff that you don't need to craft (but they ofc aren't made for combat) Point being is all this crafting and modding worth doing if you get the same result with something you already have in your shed
The gang not wearing armor? What is this madness? That said, loving that jacket Shad. Also the Fallout 4 circular saw and the saw/scythe both tie for my vote. The scythe would be the primary with the circular saw a good backup in case the handsaw blade snaps.
Nate gets a point here. I mean, in a classic zombie apocalypse, the goal is to inflict damage to the "BRAIN" (at least when it comes to "killing" zombies). That flail would split one's head open like a watermelon. I would definitely add a longer staff and turn it into a kind of Hussite flail (harder to aim though).
and in a classic zombie apocalypse the survivor using that is more likely to accidentally swing it into themselves or miss rather than actually hit a shambling target lol
@@MechaGriffin Not really as much of a problem as people make it out to be. As long as the shaft is twice or more the length of the chain it's prefectly safe.
@@clothar23 of course safety issue fixed no problemo, in hands of trained person is deadly weapon, in hands of office worker is tool for faster journey to RIP
@@MechaGriffin Mate a pole arm length fail is no different from a wheat thresher. A tool illiterate peasants learned to use in child hood back in the day. Are you telling me with the wealth of information available at our finger tips a modern educated adult can't equal that feat. Educational standards haven't dropped that much mate.
This is the most educational of all your videos, Shad! For me at least. I've spent hundreds of hours in DIY shops & I'm almost always fiddling with the axes there.
This is my first ever UA-cam comment. Shad’s channel has inspired and impassioned me in so many ways. I look forward to every new video, especially the next Adventure Quest. Thank you guys for everything you do.
Shad has EXACTLY recreated my favorite pruning saw, complete with the forward lean, long blade, and grabbing hook. The flail would be more useful with half the weight of hammer head, and about 2/3 the chain. The saw axe looks like the most likely of the lot.
Dunno if anyone's said this yet, but you can also make a bow with some high-pressure tolerant pvc pipe and some string. That's only about 20 dollars, plus some dowels for arrows to be around 25-30, a reasonable amount to spend on an apocalypse weapon.
"Hard to control", that's why flails used in war were primarily built for two hands over one; more control and easier for it to reach over shields, which is the flails big strength.
I love the flail, though I wonder if you combined Shad's polearm length handle with the flail head, how more or less effective could it be? Certainly safer for the user.
It would be less, I feel. The longer the handle, the more torque the heavy end exerts on the user, meaning less control and less acceleration for the same amount of muscle put into moving it. You saw the difficulty of supporting it from the light end with the short handle; that difficulty is multiplied with length.
Gotta go with reach in a zombie apocalypse. Shad wins, though I think there's room for improvement. A pole arm with thrusting, slashing, and bludgeoning aspects is what I'd work toward. Mount half a shear on a long shaft, maybe a ball of concrete cast around where the tang meats staff.
The Warsaw cuts way better than expected. The Death Flail taking chunks from that block earns high marks. But I have to agree that of the 3 I would pick up the Fallout 4 Ripoff to smash zombie faces.
@@Aaa-vp6ugAh, sorry, I wrote it really garbled. It was a joke that you would find them in a Walmart (which you don't have), so it's your "fault" for not being in the "right" country.
Love each of these you guys made. Would have loved to see the circular saw weapon be done as a mace too (cut halfway through each one, put both halves together, hammer them into the top of the haft)
The flail wins because of pure destructive power: it killed the stone. The ripper saw comes in second. Safe but noisy, with less penetration than you would think. The zombie pruner would have been better, if a machete or cutlass blade was added instead. It would have been the hands down winner. Shad shouldn't have goon so deep into the apocalypse theme.
I feel like I'd prefer the reach against an opponent who is generally dumb and slow. Really exploit their weaknesses, you can probably get in multiple hits if need be
So- There are a few things to take into account when making a "zombie-killing" weapon. 1. Blunt force. The entire goal when fighting the undead is to target their central nervous system (I.E. the brain and spine) as its the main thing you need to destroy to disable or kill them. Blunt force is good at this as it can easily concuss or cause a lot of brain d mage. 2. Silence. It needs to be quiet, as any loud noises may just attract more zombies. 3. Easy to use. It can't have saw-teeth, jagged blades, etc. Anything that might cause it to get stuck in flesh or bone. Hammers and straight blades are the best weapons because of that. 4. Reach. You want it to have a decent range so a zombie can't claw or bite you while you try to kill them. Overall, something like an english/french warhammer would be the best- Blunt force, concentrated into a direct point with lots of range, and 3 blades you can optionally use with it still being easy to carry around. There was another video I've seen that discussed the warhammer being the optimal weapon.
I love this type of content, mixing it with your actual historical know-how when it comes to weapons is awesome. My vote goes to shad for the saw scythe
Saw Scythe is the best of the three imo. Hard points: 1. Has reach 2. excellent slashing 3. could be filed down to have a spear tip 4. seems like the design can be replaced quickly and is a secure design Soft points: 1. quiet when used 2. can function as a walking stick 3. doesn't need to be holstered because walking stick 4. long enough that stick itself can be used if blade breaks. 5. ease of use, lower risk of self injury
Nice job! I hope that we get to see more stuff like this. As for voting, I would probably vote for Tyranth’s weapon since it’s easy to carry/control, can easily be replaceable if the blades break (assuming that you have access to a few lying about), and effective. The other two could work, but I would have issues with durability and if I can hit my targets with it. But that’s me.
I like this format, after you create your weapons you each should come up with a challenge and the weapon with the most points at the end wins. You could make up rules on the fly to lower Nate score for no good reason and Shad could scream "POWER" a lot when he's hitting things.
Been a while since I’ve watched a shadiversity video, but this video immediately grabbed my attention. The intro was really sick and the test footage was cool too. Of the weapons, my vote is on the Fallout saw club. Well done gents
Personally, I have to say Tyranth has the most practical choice of weapon for the zombie apocalypse, or just the collapse of civilization in general. It can rip through soft targets, bludgeon sturdier ones, is compact and light enough for ease of carry when you don't have access to easy vehicle travel like we do now, and is made of easily sourced materials - the handle can even be replaced by a good, thick tree branch if you need to. Nate's choice is creative, but just too unwieldy to be reliable despite the sheer power it can potentially bring to bear, while Shad's weapon is simply too long for use indoors (an issue Nate's weapon also has), though shaping the sawblade to a point instead of a flat end would mitigate this downside.
I live in Texas. Not only do we have an ammo and gun surplus but we also have a surplus of charcoal, sulphur, and saltpeter as well as scrap metal. Infinite guns.
@@shadowofhawk55 Cool. May find that it takes a little experimenting to get the ratios just right depending on the quality of the raw materials. When baking, just switching to a different brand of flour, same type, just, say, switching from Pillsbury all-purpose flour to Gold Medal all-purpose flour, can seriously affect the finished product. And that's using a standardized product. Taking raw materials out of the ground is going to result in a much wider range of purity and chemical consistency.
Hammer-flair: High damage, low accuracy. good for Pure STR builds with evasion emphasis Saw-th: Long reach, wide arc. good for crow control builds Man opener: balance between slicing and bludgeon damage. Easy starter weapon choice while deciding final build.
The video was preaty entertaining 😄 The risk of a zombie apocalipse would be the same with the "risk" of ending world hunger, but how about, just for the sake of it make an episode 2 with actualy good wepons you could make with items from hardware store. Maybe a clawhammer head with a longer shaft or a billhook with a longer handdle, a axe handdle with nails, maybe you could get a shovel and cut some of the metal to make some kind of spear etc. 😉
I’d have made a apocalypse adaptation of a macohuitl. Take the axe handle, and attack razor blades to both sides of the striking end , and a spike for stabbing
Rating: 1-5, Categories: power, cutting, durability, control Sledge flail: 5 power, 0 cutting, 4 durability, 2 control Pole saw: 0 power, 4 cutting, 2 durability, 5 control Saw club: 3 power, 2 cutting, 3 durability, 3 control Without meaning to, it looks like I give it a 3 way tie for stats 😆 Great video guys 🙂
This is my favorite video on this channel so far. the idea is fun And the ending is superb and surprisingly funny. Not to mention educational. keep up the good work
An interesting video and I admit I was surprised how well the saw performed, since the blade seems to be rather soft I was kind of expecting it to completely bend out of shape very fast. Personally I would rate the sawblade club the highest, it seems fairly effective, it doesn't seem as fragile as the saw scythe and is a lot easier to use and safer than the flail. I'm kind of disappointed that no one made a spear, it seems like a very good choice and is probably fairly simple to make.
Tyranth's weapon: It is basically a mace that can lacerate tissue. I would take it anytime, it is near perfect. I'd take a few of its "teeth" off to improve it, which is not much. Shad's weapon: It gives better reach and leverage than the others and is very nimble, not as top heavy and clunky as the other weapons, but very flimbsy. If Shad could add some steel on the spine (if I can call the back side of the saw as that) of the saw blade to not interfere with the dentations and keep them thin enough to deal some serious damage, he could possibly make the tip of his saw-spear stiffer and more solid, also dealing blunt force by using the back side. Nate's flail: It is a purely blunt force weapon, and much like a medieval flail, it is best suited for mounted combat because the chain absorbs the impact from going to the wielder's hand. However, it could be upgraded to become more effective in dismounted combat. First, longer handle, giving more reach and leverage, as well as keeping the weight away from your hands, much like a two-handed war flail (I've been watching a lot of Skallagrim lately). Second, a strong motorbike chain to make it more controlable (even a chain from a chainsaw may work, and the small blades could be an extra hazard for the target). If you want to be edgy, make this flail on that axe from the beginning. My own weapon: Just take that axe everyone was taking in the beginning, make a cut on the wooden shaft to attatch a knife blade, add a knife blade to it (can be a kitchen knife to save weight, or a fish cleaning knife) for some thrusting, weld a metal cap to keep everything secured, weld a screw driver on the back side of the axe head and then add nails to the tip of the shaft just bellow the axe head. It is like a Goedendag with an axe head and a pick, a blade instead of a spike, and mixed with a WW1 trench club.
I gotta.say shads is the most practical in an apocalypse setting. The flail is a sledge hammer thats just deadlier to the user. The saw blades just make a very loud dinner bell sound for any zombies nearby. Shads needs some reinforcement cuz the blades so wobbly but i think saw scythe wins
They all are very viable, but I feel you could replace 2/3rds of them in the garden section alone. Personally, give me a 3-foot steel pipe. Weight is light enough to carry with you always with enough heff and mass to swing. Crowbar if allowed premade tools.
Crowbars tend to be overly heavy relative to length right? Not what I'd want to swing around all day. Boring as all hell maybe, but just give me an axe any day of the week. If I get a week of prep time before the apocalypse hits, I'll just go buy 10,000 rounds of ammo though.
as an aspiring blacksmith i gotta say I love your videos, very informative. I've always had a love for swords and very long knives and dangerous things, your videos are helping me learn what next to play at making in my forge
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate Tyranth's control over the various weapons. At the very least, they didn't show him hitting the pipe, whether he did in the outtakes, I don't know, but they showed Shad and Nate doing it.
It has been a while since I first saw this and I have to ask. Why didn’t shad buy a machete for his war scythe’s blade. I feel like it would have performed better and still look post apocalyptic and intimidating.
Very cool weapons. I do like the safety tape on Nate's flail, that is a really good idea for a weapon that's so dangerous to the wielder. Not sure if Shad's scythe might be a bit flimsy, it's a _very_ thin blade. Personally I would have liked to see a slightly different take on it, instead of excluding just grabbing an existing axe or hammer, aim for something _better_ so that they don't need excluding. DIY-ing a pole weapon for example.
The best in my opinion is the Saw Scythe. The Fallout Rip-off has a huge disadvantage, it sounds like a loud bell, great for attracting unwanted attention. P.s For armour, check if you can get decommissioned street signs. We used them in the SCA for quick, but effective plate.
In all honesty I'd probably take Shad's sawscythe, polearms are broken vs Zombies, and seeing how easily he built it, it would be super easy to repair and maintain. In addition to well, being a saw. One less thing you have to carry for gathering firewood.
Having played a lot of zombie games in my time, when a firearm isn't available, you'd want something like Tyranth's weapon, something that can strike hard and recover quickly. A polearm isn't a bad idea, but ideally you'd want something less like a scythe and more like a spear or a halberd. Blunt weapons aren't a bad idea either, but a flail is way too unpredictable (as Shad has pointed out a number of times) so you're better off with a sledgehammer or a mace/morning star.
My apocalypse flail was made from a long piece of 1/2" galvanized iron pipe, a length of chain, and a padlock. One idea I've wanted to try but haven't been able to is a wooden spear with a steel tip. Take a 7 foot long piece of closet rod, drill out the center about 4 inches down, insert a 6" long piece of 3/8" steel rod in the hole, sharpen the exposed tip, and taper the end of the rod.
As much as I want to like the "war scythe" I have to say that Tyranth's wins out here. It's like a combination of both the flail and the scythe and in an apocalypse scenario, you want multitools. Flail - 1-handed, blunt trauma, dangerous to user Sawar scythe - 2-handed, slicing (and obviously sawing), safe thanks to the range Mace/club thing - 1/2-handed, slicing and blunt trauma (turn it sideways and use those bolts!), pretty safe since you're a decent distance from the sawblades and they don't really move. It's almost like an axe with how sturdy it is as well.
Shad's saw could be improved by filing an edge on the back, saber ground would be find, then finishin it with a wetstone. But from the three, Tyranth's is the probably the one I'd reach for. It sounds great, and in the time of zombies, style counts.
To add into Tyranth’s comment about Shad’s “weapon” they are known as extendable pole pruners and the cheapest one I was able to find was 50$ USD and that is a non-electric one. Compared to Shad just using a wooden stick and a hand saw to make that would be like 20-ish USD for roughly the same effect. Forget zombie apocalypse here is Shad saving us from the financial apocalypse.
Gotta go with Tyranths weapon, seems the most versatile and while I love the DIY flail and warsaw the flail is a bit unweildy and the warsaw is gloriously long but if your enemy isn't smart enough or straight up doesn't care about its own wellbeing in mass numbers they will get in and close the distance easily.
I actually did something like this myself! I turned a short machete and an axe handle into a short spear. It's razor sharp and can even split small logs.
The DIY weaponcraft and Nate's flail gave me an idea: Could you make a "safety flail"? I would make the top part solid (2 pieces of wood total) and attached via a hinge in order to increase control over the impact point. The top section needs some stopping mechanism so that it won't strike the wearer's hands (either by restricting the angle it can form with the lower handle, or by giving the lower handle a hand guard that runs along it). And finally, I would include a method of locking the top section in that contracted position and releasing it with the press of a button, so that you can initiate the whipping motion at the optimal time.
When you look at those weapons you realize that each is just a fancy stick. And when it comes to sticks there is a simple rule. Bigger stick = better stick. Shad wins.
Loved this video! I think at some point a zombie apocalypse should occur on Epic Adventure Quest and the characters can use these weapons, what's cooler than zombies in a medieval setting? Keep up the great work fellas
Definitely partial to a mastered flail out of these three options. Kind of fell in love with the battle between the Witch King of Angmar vs. Eowyn, so I'm a bit biased even if the Witch King lost.
I dig the War-saw a lot, but ultimately polearms can prove to be cumbersome in a crowded area, like inside of a house. The saw itself is also too flimsy and flexible, and I got a hunch it’ll just glance off of skulls. The saw blade bludgeon thing just works better because it’s a comfortable size, hardened steel, and perhaps easier to replace parts for, if something goes wrong. It’s not the best weapon you could have, but it works. It’s a classic for a reason, even if cutting isn’t something it’s good at.
Interesting how Shad's scythe was purely a cutting weapon, Nate's flail was purely blunt force, and Tyranth's club was a mix of both.
Honestly, Shad’s can be both. If he held it reversed it would act like a Goedendag. Would almost suggest that as the main use against foes and use the saw blade as a tool for post-fight dismemberment.
yes true but i would also like to point out that Tyranths weapon is not the best at either . so which is more important? do u need both blunt and sharp? or do u want a specialized weapon that can do one thing really well? as good as the flail is i would pick the saw on stick cause zombies are very unpredictable and keeping distance while dealing damage is very important so i think the saw stick wins
@@AbdulAzeez-up4nwbut I wouldn't wanna be stuck with it in close quarters. The sawblade one is nice and short, I think it's the most reliable
Yes but considering that these guys know a thing or two about weapons they would have made something that is not ass
brute strength, precision, and balance
Interesting side note; there's this idea in the zombie apocalypse subgenre that silent weapons are the best because there are *always* more zombies and you don't want to alert the hoard. Taking that into account, the saw-club has a rather unique drawback, given that the blades can ring loud enough to hurt the user's ears.
I was thinking about this during the video I was like holy s*** that would be a really bad weapon in the zombie apocalypse because you wouldn't be able to kill a zombie without alerting all the zombies nearby
@@darkblade51224 it only really rings when you hit metal on metal
Tyranth ring the dinner bell for the zombies.
@@stanboyd1 he literally flicked it with his finger in the video showing that it rings even with contact of flesh, cartilage, and bone
@@darkblade51224 yeah cause he flicked the side of the blade causing vibration. But when he hit the coconut, melon etc it didn't vibrate, at least not as much and therefore didn't make a noticeable ringing sound.
Shad's reaction when he sees Nate's flail was glorious. You can see him taking sanity damage.
If Nate's flail has some videogame legendary weapon name I'd call it The Kinetic Crusher.
@@A_Bag_of_Potatoes No, no: *The **_Ki-ne-Krushᵀᴹ_*
😂😂
@@housemousemainGod bless safety tape. ;)
Why tho
Genuinely surprised by how clean Shad sliced the water bottle.
On another note, I enjoyed this video, and once again shows why I like Shad having his crew with him.
It goes from just making a video, to making a video of tou screwing around and having fun with your friends who also share your interests.
What would work better for Nate's death Flail would be a thick motorbike chain. That way it's not so random in its movements and it's more of a controllable vertical strike. I'd love to see how it performs versus the regular chain
Would that type of chain stand up to the torque/ shear generated by use, though?
@@robertlewis6915 Apparently Matt Easton tried out a replica of an actual antique flail that used the same type of chain, so I'd at least say that someone else thought it was a good idea for a weapon.
A slightly lighter hammer head would probably help with precision too
@@jlan7844Todd from Todd's workshop made it for him.
@@stevene6482 I was thinking a glassbreaker when they were at the store. small hard point.
Shad's "Sawthe" looks like it would be a pretty good tool for cutting branches. I have some experience with that and most of the tools you can get for reasonable prices are weak and break easily. A saw bolted to a big stick? Not so much. I'll have to steal that design for science later
in the event of zombies you can probably just steal a shelf load of the saw blades as well. easy repair.
Guys please do this again, it was so much fun. If revenue permits, up the budget and have some more time dedicated to it. I think Shad's scythe would be interesting to see with a few saw's stacked ontop of eachother and spot welded/bolted. Then take the teeth off and grind an edge on it if even possible. Great video!
Taking the teeth off the saw makes the weapon basically a brush axe, equivalent to a billhook, which is a fantastic weapon. I think it'd definitely work better to have a smooth blade instead of small teeth for sure. Zombies aren't going to care much about the tearing action, though regular human Raiders will.
They passed up the splitting wedge those things would be devastating just thrown at zombies
A saw blade either way with the shtick all the way to the end so it could also mount a spike.
I hoped he'd make a halberd. You put an axe blade and a knife on top, or sharpen the top to a spear-like degree. Really easy to make and rather effective
@@butwhataboutdragons7768 Yes! That's what it looked like in my head anyway (billhook). The teeth in my mind would get stuck in clothing more often and that's no good for pesky raiders. We want a clean chop xD
I think ideally for me... I'd have put Tyranth's sawblade design on Shad's polearm handle, and hopefully found a way to add a long topspike. Make it a poleaxe sort of deal.
Same thought. Givw it a spike, just need to pierce the skull, so cutting isnt as ideal as something that can split or pierce the skull. I'm on the Death Flails side for this alone
Even on the current one, adding a spear shouldn't be too hard: you already have two attachment points, I would mount a metal plate opposite the top axsaw blade and add a washer, then under the bottom axsaw blade. Then sharpen to a nice, hefty spearpoint! Then it becomes a shortspear-axsaw!
@@willowd2696 My main issue with the flail is that you would literally be better off just grabbing a sledgehammer than using one with the hammerhead on a chain :p
Other than that, yeah, blunt is definitely a very viable choice when fighting zombies. Smash heads open and no need to worry about your weapon getting stuck.
@@Arbaaltheundefeated Completely agree! If those three are the only options though I'd want something smashy smashy over something cutty cutty for zombie scenarios
Classic cylindrical spikes aren't a great option for piercing skulls. The bone can grip the spike and hold onto it. Struggling to dislodge weapons is a disqualifier in a zombpocalypse. Though I believe there are some shapes meant to prevent that.
Saw Scythe wins for me, for one reason above all. It's a polearm, and in a zombie apocalypse keeping distance is even more important than usual. Tyranth's might be a decent side arm though, it seems to me like a modern interpretation of a macuahuitl.
and Saw Scythe can be used to cut wood win needed
I favor the Saw Scythe as well
It’s a shit pole arm, a saw is soo flexible it won’t do anything if you try to stab with it , it’s not even that good as a cutting device ,,
Tyranths with a spike out the tip and back side on a longer pole would be best
@tymthurling8125 Yeah. A machete blade would have been better. It's sturdier, cuts better and still has saw teeth on the back edge.
Definitely the Saw Axe. Wieldable one handed, so you can use a shield. Effective as a basic DIY and it's easily made deadlier by simply sharpening it. Easy to swap blades out and easy to carry backup blades.
Versus people shields are great but I feel zombies would simply latch on and make it a hindrance. Having a versatile weapon and using the additional range along with the possibility of having a hand free to manipulate objects and use improvised weapons and environmental advantages seems like a better option in a zombie world.
Though the Saw axe is quite loud on impact with anything and everything.
@@kirakyuti5946 at least it won’t cave your OWN skull in like the hammer flail will.
@@stingerjohnny9951 And at which point did i imply i was defending the hammer flail? Unless the saw staff suddenly shapeshifted into a hammer flail then i never did.
@@kirakyuti5946 Oh I’m not implying you were defending it, I was just taking the opportunity to dunk on flails, as that is a noble and just thing to do.
Whoever takes over Home Depot first in the apocalypse wins. Flail hands down. Coupled with a shield would be my choice of the three
And Walmart. Gotta have food and clothes.
Better make an alliance with the bass pro bros
@@dukefanshawe6815true that. Unless your chaotic evil and steal other people’s food
😂💯
I will just go in my shed & turn up a submachine gun on a lathe in 1/2 an hour.
I'm a former Fabrication, Mechanical & electrical engineer till my failed health so I will still having running water & electricity while most don't even know how to make soap.
Hygiene, water & food is more of a worry then mobs, zombies or some such hoopla.
I have about 20 gallons of water in drums I made up of food grade catering steel with 4 & 1/2 month of non perishable stocks as honestly I don't like leaving my house spending more time in my rose garden then anything of late reading a book in the day till the weather gets to my bones.
Amazing video, I'd watch more of post-apocalyptic weapon-crafting competitions!
PS: I think Nathe's weapon would be lovely if the chain was shorter, the handle longer and maybe the hammer a little smaller (although shortening the chain may be enough to make it less top-heavy)
I think what the flail-like weapons need is a hand guard protector that extends downwards from towards the tip of the stick/pole part.
Something like a spiraling outwards metal piece could work.
That way the user could safely get leverage from further up for a moment and then retract the hand back once the flail is in motion.
The hammer chain a couple of links shorter on Shad's longer tool handle!
@@ccelik97It doesn't need to be that complicated, a simple ring to stop the top hand entering the rebound zone should be fine [edit] never mind, I see you want the hand inside that zone.
I was thinking the same. Something like a shortened hussite flail
@@DavidSmith-vr1nb Yeah lol [to your edit].
Stronger than each of these weapons alone is the tactics available combining them. Shad's spearsaw would be great to trip up zombies for Nate's finishing smash, while Tyranth's bastardsaw is maneuverable enough to provide cover for any breaking through.
Honestly devestating combo
At first I read that as final smash
this is implying someone would want to be near Nate while he swings that thing around. let's be honest, a double pendulum for a weapon ain't exactly the definition of control.
@@anonymousmonkey9491
Agreed, yet that's where the polesaw would greatly help. First to provide a more stationary target for Nate's swing, and second to provide Shad safe distance from Nate's swing.
Granted, a sledgehammer would probably still be more effective, but at least the "flail" looks cool
Really neat ideas. I would make the DeathFlail's handle slightly longer and the chain a bit shorter, to enhance control. The WarSaw is a fantastic cutter "out-of-the-box, so to speak. Add in a clip point so you could do some (limited to be sure) thrusting with it, maybe. The FallOut4RipOff might be improved by removing every other tooth. As they are, I'd take the RipOff for sheer versatility. With the suggested mods, the WarSaw would shine. The DeathFlail would be fantastic for someone more, ahh, muscular than myself. Great work, everyone!
I think the saw blade is just too wobbly to be used for stabbing. Without some reinforcement I dont think it would do the job.
9:50 Congratulations Tyranth, you managed to create a zombie dinner bell.
"oh, you're approaching me?"
*zombie noises*
Same thought. *Ding Brains are done! Ding Brains are done! Ding Brains are done... And the rest of the Whopper song.
+300% threat level.
I think tyranth's fallout double saw won over all. Just the smaller profile for ease of carrying, and overall use makes it a solid pick. Would love to see you guys try how effective they are against the tire armor!
Plus the ease of use. You'd definitely need to train with a flail to not knock your own teeth out (still not guaranteed), and using a spear-like weapon could be hard if you don't know what you're doing. You could hit walls with the other end, bang it all over the place. But with a bat? Just swing. No need for training, no tactics really needed. Aim for head, swing.
I think the coconut tests may have been the most satisfying thing I've ever watched! Great weapons
I've always felt that a Spear is best suited to a Zombie outbreak.
Take a pitchfork, remove all prongs barring a central one; you've got a decent short spear.
I swear Nate, Tyranth and Shad are just three teddy bears being really passionate.
Very huggable
They're friend-shaped sword nerds
@@Sr_ECO this was the best thing i read today
Big teddy bears with sharp weapons
Someone's been playing a lot of Dead Rising 😂
Shad not gona like this :)
I absolutely loved this challenge!
Would probably have to go with the saw scythe, myself - primarily because it seems like it would be the most versatile to use as both a weapon and a tool, which would definitely make it more "valuable" in the apocalypse.
If you plan on doing more apocalypse videos, I would love to see the trope of sports equipment as armor really put to the test. Maybe put it up against the weapons that were crafted in this video, even?
The production value and quality of these videos your guys are making just keeps going up! Love all this good content your guys are putting together for us
Shad definantly had the right idea, it was just his execution that was lacking. The most important things to remember when fighting zombies is to stay out of melee, and to disable them or destroy the head. Essentially, you want a halberd. Something that will keep them far far away that can chop off limbs and heads.
i think a handsaw blade is just too flimsy for fighting zombies, polearm is definitely a smart choice, just wrong type of blade, attaching a machete blade or something would be far more effective.
This video was really engaging and fun. The gags and building timelapses gave me mythbuster vibes. And you three competing with eachother with your own ideas made me very curious to see the ending results. One of the best videos I've seen on this channel in a while. Great work.
With Shads I would suggest mounting so the "shtick" runs along the backbone of the blade with a blade in reverse too.
Nate needs to make a flail like a whip with multiple small chains and a longer handle.
Tyranth should add more blades and an end spike.
The logical step after apocalypse armor and weapons: Apocalypse vehicles!
Edit: Those scenes at the utility store just prove those places are like toy stores for adults.
Toy stores for men.
Mad Max! After all they are in Australia.
If you make a continuation to this, homemade swords would be cool. I’m curious how sharpened sheet metal welded to a bike handle or metal pipe compares to actual, professionally built swords
I don’t think “sword” would be the word, at most those could be considered Machetes
I'm really digging the black and red motif in everyone's gear.
Also was a fan of the war scythe. There are some handsaws that are reinforced that would have probably helped with the overall flex. I like keeping some distance and if need be a polearm could block up a hallway.
"Well, i created it, so it´s creative." ... omg, i´m dying!
I want to see these up against axes, hoes, hammers and other stuff that you don't need to craft (but they ofc aren't made for combat)
Point being is all this crafting and modding worth doing if you get the same result with something you already have in your shed
Me too!
Well they made that joke at the beginning where they all went for the axe first so I think that is a pretty good sign of the effectiveness of it.
I like the saw safe because it has read. It looks more normal, but for self-defense the spinning wheel of death.
@@orcapodstudio-retronaut wut?
Should include the crowbar if they do.
I love everything about the Functional Fandom videos theses days. The intro, the topics, the music, the montages, and of course the content.
The gang not wearing armor? What is this madness? That said, loving that jacket Shad.
Also the Fallout 4 circular saw and the saw/scythe both tie for my vote. The scythe would be the primary with the circular saw a good backup in case the handsaw blade snaps.
I am afraid it would, except if you fight against water bottles :)
Very cool video!
I really like how Tyranth’s weapon was both bladed and somewhat blunt and could be used either one handed or two handed.
Nate gets a point here. I mean, in a classic zombie apocalypse, the goal is to inflict damage to the "BRAIN" (at least when it comes to "killing" zombies). That flail would split one's head open like a watermelon. I would definitely add a longer staff and turn it into a kind of Hussite flail (harder to aim though).
In that case just get a hammer and spike and make a bec de Corbin
and in a classic zombie apocalypse the survivor using that is more likely to accidentally swing it into themselves or miss rather than actually hit a shambling target lol
@@MechaGriffin Not really as much of a problem as people make it out to be.
As long as the shaft is twice or more the length of the chain it's prefectly safe.
@@clothar23 of course safety issue fixed no problemo, in hands of trained person is deadly weapon, in hands of office worker is tool for faster journey to RIP
@@MechaGriffin Mate a pole arm length fail is no different from a wheat thresher. A tool illiterate peasants learned to use in child hood back in the day.
Are you telling me with the wealth of information available at our finger tips a modern educated adult can't equal that feat.
Educational standards haven't dropped that much mate.
This is the most educational of all your videos, Shad! For me at least. I've spent hundreds of hours in DIY shops & I'm almost always fiddling with the axes there.
This is my first ever UA-cam comment. Shad’s channel has inspired and impassioned me in so many ways. I look forward to every new video, especially the next Adventure Quest. Thank you guys for everything you do.
I love the war saw/Saw scythe/whatever. Especially for maintaining trees. Very useful.
Shad has EXACTLY recreated my favorite pruning saw, complete with the forward lean, long blade, and grabbing hook.
The flail would be more useful with half the weight of hammer head, and about 2/3 the chain.
The saw axe looks like the most likely of the lot.
That saw club sounds AWESOME.
The problem with the saw blade one is how noisy it is. That's just ringing the dinner bell for zombies.
Only if the zombies can hear. If their senses are weak, they might not notice...
Also just don't hit metal. It was perfectly fine against fruit.
@@Amy_the_LizardWell, we all know how well zombies can hear.
Tyranth has learned to cast Booming Blade. 😜
@@RokuroCarisu Or Toll the Dead! Ha!
Dunno if anyone's said this yet, but you can also make a bow with some high-pressure tolerant pvc pipe and some string. That's only about 20 dollars, plus some dowels for arrows to be around 25-30, a reasonable amount to spend on an apocalypse weapon.
"Hard to control", that's why flails used in war were primarily built for two hands over one; more control and easier for it to reach over shields, which is the flails big strength.
So truly a brute force
I love the flail, though I wonder if you combined Shad's polearm length handle with the flail head, how more or less effective could it be? Certainly safer for the user.
It would be less, I feel. The longer the handle, the more torque the heavy end exerts on the user, meaning less control and less acceleration for the same amount of muscle put into moving it. You saw the difficulty of supporting it from the light end with the short handle; that difficulty is multiplied with length.
Gotta go with reach in a zombie apocalypse. Shad wins, though I think there's room for improvement. A pole arm with thrusting, slashing, and bludgeoning aspects is what I'd work toward. Mount half a shear on a long shaft, maybe a ball of concrete cast around where the tang meats staff.
Whoa - like a homemade adapted bec de corbin! 😮 That'd be so awesome!
@@morgansmith1930 In my mind the poleaxe family of weapons are the ultimate in any situation.
The main weakness of Shad's scythe are the teeth since they can break or get caught on clothing when cutting someone
@@alargecookie Agreed! I love the glamor and trustiness of a good sidearm, but polearms - just the reach is 👌
I loved Shad's nervous laugh at about 5:12
I would say the best would be a mix of shad's and tyrant's creations: long stick and saw blade
I cracked up several times watching them shopping for weapon parts at Bunnings 😂😂😂
The Warsaw cuts way better than expected.
The Death Flail taking chunks from that block earns high marks.
But I have to agree that of the 3 I would pick up the Fallout 4 Ripoff to smash zombie faces.
Shad: DEX character build
Tyranth: STR character build
Nate: Meme character build
I still think the Scottish Claymore is the best sword to have for a zombie apocalypse.
*Quickenings sold separately*
Is that the only Highlander in recorded history that would get dumber with every accidental beheading because they're killing zombies?
Rather hard to find at your local hardware store though.
@@anvos658 Not in Scotland. Walmart has them there. 😘
@@steemlenn8797We don’t have Walmart here.
(Idk if that’s the joke or not)
@@Aaa-vp6ugAh, sorry, I wrote it really garbled.
It was a joke that you would find them in a Walmart (which you don't have), so it's your "fault" for not being in the "right" country.
Love each of these you guys made. Would have loved to see the circular saw weapon be done as a mace too (cut halfway through each one, put both halves together, hammer them into the top of the haft)
The flail wins because of pure destructive power: it killed the stone. The ripper saw comes in second. Safe but noisy, with less penetration than you would think.
The zombie pruner would have been better, if a machete or cutlass blade was added instead. It would have been the hands down winner. Shad shouldn't have goon so deep into the apocalypse theme.
I feel like I'd prefer the reach against an opponent who is generally dumb and slow.
Really exploit their weaknesses, you can probably get in multiple hits if need be
So- There are a few things to take into account when making a "zombie-killing" weapon.
1. Blunt force.
The entire goal when fighting the undead is to target their central nervous system (I.E. the brain and spine) as its the main thing you need to destroy to disable or kill them. Blunt force is good at this as it can easily concuss or cause a lot of brain d mage.
2. Silence.
It needs to be quiet, as any loud noises may just attract more zombies.
3. Easy to use.
It can't have saw-teeth, jagged blades, etc. Anything that might cause it to get stuck in flesh or bone. Hammers and straight blades are the best weapons because of that.
4. Reach.
You want it to have a decent range so a zombie can't claw or bite you while you try to kill them.
Overall, something like an english/french warhammer would be the best- Blunt force, concentrated into a direct point with lots of range, and 3 blades you can optionally use with it still being easy to carry around. There was another video I've seen that discussed the warhammer being the optimal weapon.
I love this type of content, mixing it with your actual historical know-how when it comes to weapons is awesome. My vote goes to shad for the saw scythe
Saw Scythe is the best of the three imo.
Hard points:
1. Has reach
2. excellent slashing
3. could be filed down to have a spear tip
4. seems like the design can be replaced quickly and is a secure design
Soft points:
1. quiet when used
2. can function as a walking stick
3. doesn't need to be holstered because walking stick
4. long enough that stick itself can be used if blade breaks.
5. ease of use, lower risk of self injury
Nice job! I hope that we get to see more stuff like this. As for voting, I would probably vote for Tyranth’s weapon since it’s easy to carry/control, can easily be replaceable if the blades break (assuming that you have access to a few lying about), and effective. The other two could work, but I would have issues with durability and if I can hit my targets with it. But that’s me.
I like this format, after you create your weapons you each should come up with a challenge and the weapon with the most points at the end wins. You could make up rules on the fly to lower Nate score for no good reason and Shad could scream "POWER" a lot when he's hitting things.
Been a while since I’ve watched a shadiversity video, but this video immediately grabbed my attention. The intro was really sick and the test footage was cool too. Of the weapons, my vote is on the Fallout saw club. Well done gents
Personally, I have to say Tyranth has the most practical choice of weapon for the zombie apocalypse, or just the collapse of civilization in general. It can rip through soft targets, bludgeon sturdier ones, is compact and light enough for ease of carry when you don't have access to easy vehicle travel like we do now, and is made of easily sourced materials - the handle can even be replaced by a good, thick tree branch if you need to. Nate's choice is creative, but just too unwieldy to be reliable despite the sheer power it can potentially bring to bear, while Shad's weapon is simply too long for use indoors (an issue Nate's weapon also has), though shaping the sawblade to a point instead of a flat end would mitigate this downside.
What a fun video!
I'm very surprised nobody made a goedendag. No need to sharpen it, easy to use and make, super effective in most scenarios.
The channel quality has somehow gotten exponentially greater even just looking back at this 6 month old video.
You've struck a truly perfect balance
I live in Texas. Not only do we have an ammo and gun surplus but we also have a surplus of charcoal, sulphur, and saltpeter as well as scrap metal. Infinite guns.
So long as there's someone around who knows how to make black powder.
@@brigidtheirish It’s not hard, just need proper measuring tool. Hard part is making the bullets.
@@shadowofhawk55 Oh, I'm sure it's not *if you know how.* That's the trick.
@@brigidtheirish I’ve never done it but I’ve looked it up and a recipe saved somewhere
@@shadowofhawk55 Cool. May find that it takes a little experimenting to get the ratios just right depending on the quality of the raw materials. When baking, just switching to a different brand of flour, same type, just, say, switching from Pillsbury all-purpose flour to Gold Medal all-purpose flour, can seriously affect the finished product. And that's using a standardized product. Taking raw materials out of the ground is going to result in a much wider range of purity and chemical consistency.
Hammer-flair: High damage, low accuracy. good for Pure STR builds with evasion emphasis
Saw-th: Long reach, wide arc. good for crow control builds
Man opener: balance between slicing and bludgeon damage. Easy starter weapon choice while deciding final build.
The video was preaty entertaining 😄
The risk of a zombie apocalipse would be the same with the "risk" of ending world hunger, but how about, just for the sake of it make an episode 2 with actualy good wepons you could make with items from hardware store.
Maybe a clawhammer head with a longer shaft or a billhook with a longer handdle, a axe handdle with nails, maybe you could get a shovel and cut some of the metal to make some kind of spear etc. 😉
I’d have made a apocalypse adaptation of a macohuitl. Take the axe handle, and attack razor blades to both sides of the striking end , and a spike for stabbing
Fallout replica. Wielder of that weapon focused on the target. Shad's warsaw might threaten shrubs.
The Double SawBlade Axe is very impressive!
Rating: 1-5, Categories: power, cutting, durability, control
Sledge flail: 5 power, 0 cutting, 4 durability, 2 control
Pole saw: 0 power, 4 cutting, 2 durability, 5 control
Saw club: 3 power, 2 cutting, 3 durability, 3 control
Without meaning to, it looks like I give it a 3 way tie for stats 😆
Great video guys 🙂
This is my favorite video on this channel so far. the idea is fun And the ending is superb and surprisingly funny. Not to mention educational. keep up the good work
An interesting video and I admit I was surprised how well the saw performed, since the blade seems to be rather soft I was kind of expecting it to completely bend out of shape very fast.
Personally I would rate the sawblade club the highest, it seems fairly effective, it doesn't seem as fragile as the saw scythe and is a lot easier to use and safer than the flail.
I'm kind of disappointed that no one made a spear, it seems like a very good choice and is probably fairly simple to make.
Tyranth's weapon: It is basically a mace that can lacerate tissue. I would take it anytime, it is near perfect. I'd take a few of its "teeth" off to improve it, which is not much.
Shad's weapon: It gives better reach and leverage than the others and is very nimble, not as top heavy and clunky as the other weapons, but very flimbsy. If Shad could add some steel on the spine (if I can call the back side of the saw as that) of the saw blade to not interfere with the dentations and keep them thin enough to deal some serious damage, he could possibly make the tip of his saw-spear stiffer and more solid, also dealing blunt force by using the back side.
Nate's flail: It is a purely blunt force weapon, and much like a medieval flail, it is best suited for mounted combat because the chain absorbs the impact from going to the wielder's hand. However, it could be upgraded to become more effective in dismounted combat. First, longer handle, giving more reach and leverage, as well as keeping the weight away from your hands, much like a two-handed war flail (I've been watching a lot of Skallagrim lately). Second, a strong motorbike chain to make it more controlable (even a chain from a chainsaw may work, and the small blades could be an extra hazard for the target). If you want to be edgy, make this flail on that axe from the beginning.
My own weapon: Just take that axe everyone was taking in the beginning, make a cut on the wooden shaft to attatch a knife blade, add a knife blade to it (can be a kitchen knife to save weight, or a fish cleaning knife) for some thrusting, weld a metal cap to keep everything secured, weld a screw driver on the back side of the axe head and then add nails to the tip of the shaft just bellow the axe head. It is like a Goedendag with an axe head and a pick, a blade instead of a spike, and mixed with a WW1 trench club.
very nice, i vote for a second video with new weapons!
I gotta.say shads is the most practical in an apocalypse setting. The flail is a sledge hammer thats just deadlier to the user. The saw blades just make a very loud dinner bell sound for any zombies nearby. Shads needs some reinforcement cuz the blades so wobbly but i think saw scythe wins
They all are very viable, but I feel you could replace 2/3rds of them in the garden section alone.
Personally, give me a 3-foot steel pipe. Weight is light enough to carry with you always with enough heff and mass to swing. Crowbar if allowed premade tools.
Crowbar! All the utility of a crowbar and all the smashing potential of a mace
Crowbars tend to be overly heavy relative to length right? Not what I'd want to swing around all day.
Boring as all hell maybe, but just give me an axe any day of the week.
If I get a week of prep time before the apocalypse hits, I'll just go buy 10,000 rounds of ammo though.
as an aspiring blacksmith i gotta say I love your videos, very informative. I've always had a love for swords and very long knives and dangerous things, your videos are helping me learn what next to play at making in my forge
Stick good
I'd like to take a moment to appreciate Tyranth's control over the various weapons. At the very least, they didn't show him hitting the pipe, whether he did in the outtakes, I don't know, but they showed Shad and Nate doing it.
It has been a while since I first saw this and I have to ask. Why didn’t shad buy a machete for his war scythe’s blade. I feel like it would have performed better and still look post apocalyptic and intimidating.
Very cool weapons. I do like the safety tape on Nate's flail, that is a really good idea for a weapon that's so dangerous to the wielder. Not sure if Shad's scythe might be a bit flimsy, it's a _very_ thin blade.
Personally I would have liked to see a slightly different take on it, instead of excluding just grabbing an existing axe or hammer, aim for something _better_ so that they don't need excluding. DIY-ing a pole weapon for example.
The best in my opinion is the Saw Scythe. The Fallout Rip-off has a huge disadvantage, it sounds like a loud bell, great for attracting unwanted attention. P.s For armour, check if you can get decommissioned street signs. We used them in the SCA for quick, but effective plate.
In all honesty I'd probably take Shad's sawscythe, polearms are broken vs Zombies, and seeing how easily he built it, it would be super easy to repair and maintain. In addition to well, being a saw. One less thing you have to carry for gathering firewood.
Ah, the Hardware store. The home of DIY weapons.
Having played a lot of zombie games in my time, when a firearm isn't available, you'd want something like Tyranth's weapon, something that can strike hard and recover quickly. A polearm isn't a bad idea, but ideally you'd want something less like a scythe and more like a spear or a halberd. Blunt weapons aren't a bad idea either, but a flail is way too unpredictable (as Shad has pointed out a number of times) so you're better off with a sledgehammer or a mace/morning star.
My apocalypse flail was made from a long piece of 1/2" galvanized iron pipe, a length of chain, and a padlock.
One idea I've wanted to try but haven't been able to is a wooden spear with a steel tip. Take a 7 foot long piece of closet rod, drill out the center about 4 inches down, insert a 6" long piece of 3/8" steel rod in the hole, sharpen the exposed tip, and taper the end of the rod.
Against zombies, I think the best will be to mount the table saw saws on the long stick for increased safety distance.
As much as I want to like the "war scythe" I have to say that Tyranth's wins out here. It's like a combination of both the flail and the scythe and in an apocalypse scenario, you want multitools.
Flail - 1-handed, blunt trauma, dangerous to user
Sawar scythe - 2-handed, slicing (and obviously sawing), safe thanks to the range
Mace/club thing - 1/2-handed, slicing and blunt trauma (turn it sideways and use those bolts!), pretty safe since you're a decent distance from the sawblades and they don't really move.
It's almost like an axe with how sturdy it is as well.
Shad's saw could be improved by filing an edge on the back, saber ground would be find, then finishin it with a wetstone. But from the three, Tyranth's is the probably the one I'd reach for. It sounds great, and in the time of zombies, style counts.
Shadiversity has definitely leveled up! So happy for the guys!
To add into Tyranth’s comment about Shad’s “weapon” they are known as extendable pole pruners and the cheapest one I was able to find was 50$ USD and that is a non-electric one. Compared to Shad just using a wooden stick and a hand saw to make that would be like 20-ish USD for roughly the same effect.
Forget zombie apocalypse here is Shad saving us from the financial apocalypse.
Gotta go with Tyranths weapon, seems the most versatile and while I love the DIY flail and warsaw the flail is a bit unweildy and the warsaw is gloriously long but if your enemy isn't smart enough or straight up doesn't care about its own wellbeing in mass numbers they will get in and close the distance easily.
Tyranths saw mace axe thing definitely won
My vote for shad. It's the most versatile and effective weapon/ tool.
You can cut and saw through a lot of things and light enough to carry.
Crossbow? Anyone?
Seriously, so much better than a gun, YOU CAN REUSE THE BOLTS!
I actually did something like this myself! I turned a short machete and an axe handle into a short spear. It's razor sharp and can even split small logs.
The expression on Tyrenth's face during his slow-mo hitting the coconut is the look of a man who was promised pina coladas if he does a good job.
I personally think a smashing weapon would be best in a zombie apocalypse
The DIY weaponcraft and Nate's flail gave me an idea: Could you make a "safety flail"?
I would make the top part solid (2 pieces of wood total) and attached via a hinge in order to increase control over the impact point. The top section needs some stopping mechanism so that it won't strike the wearer's hands (either by restricting the angle it can form with the lower handle, or by giving the lower handle a hand guard that runs along it). And finally, I would include a method of locking the top section in that contracted position and releasing it with the press of a button, so that you can initiate the whipping motion at the optimal time.
When you look at those weapons you realize that each is just a fancy stick. And when it comes to sticks there is a simple rule. Bigger stick = better stick. Shad wins.
The dynamic between these three is awesome!
Loved this video! I think at some point a zombie apocalypse should occur on Epic Adventure Quest and the characters can use these weapons, what's cooler than zombies in a medieval setting? Keep up the great work fellas
Definitely partial to a mastered flail out of these three options. Kind of fell in love with the battle between the Witch King of Angmar vs. Eowyn, so I'm a bit biased even if the Witch King lost.
I dig the War-saw a lot, but ultimately polearms can prove to be cumbersome in a crowded area, like inside of a house. The saw itself is also too flimsy and flexible, and I got a hunch it’ll just glance off of skulls.
The saw blade bludgeon thing just works better because it’s a comfortable size, hardened steel, and perhaps easier to replace parts for, if something goes wrong. It’s not the best weapon you could have, but it works. It’s a classic for a reason, even if cutting isn’t something it’s good at.