Thanks so much for Sifu Mizner ‘sharing! I have practiced Qigong and Taichi for many years and watched your videos from which I have learnt a lot. I am wondering if you can clarify if I should also keep belly or Dantean full and keep sending the Qi to four limbs all the time when going up(breathing in) or belly in. Thank you very much and look forward to hearing from you.
@@DiscoverTaiji thank you very much for your quick answer! 🙏🙏🙏 I am going to join the online training as I have mastered Song Kwa of entry level to Fa Jin few year’s ago. I am wondering if I can skip some beginner’s programs and directly learn the advanced techniques after your test.
I use another method to work My Chi, Taoism breathing, that is to say, inhale the belly and squeeze, and I raise the perineum While the diaphragm descends downwards, and exhaling we weary the pelvic diaphragm, and push the whole thing down to get the ball of Chi
? How can I breath out while pressing down the diaphragm and keeping the belly out, both movements keeping the lungs expanded? I do not understand, can someone explain?
@@Bevallalom that´s not really helpful... the diaphragm is what moves down when you breath in because the lungs are expanding. By moving down, the diaphragme pushes the belly outward. So even though the lungs are not in the stomach, they expand into the stomack when it´s done with diaphragm movement. When you breath out, the diaphragm moves up, compressing the lungs and letting the belly retract again. Do you have an explanation other than stating where the organs are? Can you explain the mechanics?
@@rightsaidralf9018 The diaphragm can function 2 ways: not only has a respiratory function, but also a postural/stabilizing function too that can be maintained independent of breathing. You can basically figure it out if you just follow/figure out the instructions. Look to the work of Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization from the Prague School for more details on the 2 different diaphragm functions, as well as learning now to asses/improve it. A more traditional method where it is seen is "gentle" vase breathing from Tibetan Buddhism.
Very interesting - in regular qigong we go up when inhaling and down when exhaling, and also send qi to the Limbs with our mind. Why this opposite rise and fall? You are also keeping the stomack out exhaling?
About 1:40 in you say: "when you breathe out you're going to press the feet into the floor and press the diaphragm down, allowing the abdominal bag to expand" then you say "as you exhale you press the diaphragm down". Respectfully, when you exhale the diaphragm goes UP, not down; it's the diaphragm rising (along with the viscera rising where it has sunk into the pelvic floor plus the contracting ribs and associated intercostals etc.) that helps to empty the lungs... at least, that's how I learned it. Do you think I'm wrong? Have I misunderstood what you're saying?
see my comment below: ua-cam.com/video/HnsW-T1te2A/v-deo.html&lc=UgxIW7yVxb1ftuc2Art4AaABAg.9HYHBqhroCv9lCuEyZehZ3 Diaphragm as 2 functions, and one of them can be independent of breathing. So yes, you can engage the diaphragm while breathing out
@@kubotan26 part of the purpose is to build a Qi body structure, which takes time, another part is to clear toxins, another is to energize and re educate the body. Also when you train with this Qi in all limbs, you are moving with something, or no-thing rather than nothing.
This type of breathing actually called the valsalva maneuver in powerlifting; a stable base is created using intra-abdminal pressure so that there's not too much power loss in the torso
Thank you Sifu Mizner. There is a lot going on and not so simple to coordinate in what initially looks like a simple exercise.
copy that, love Sifu Mizner.. great sage equal to heaven
From White Crane, as taught by Huang Sheng Shyan.
Thanks so much for Sifu Mizner ‘sharing! I have practiced Qigong and Taichi for many years and watched your videos from which I have learnt a lot. I am wondering if you can clarify if I should also keep belly or Dantean full and keep sending the Qi to four limbs all the time when going up(breathing in) or belly in. Thank you very much and look forward to hearing from you.
What I understand is when sinking down, breath in with belly out and when rising up, breath out with belly out as well. Am I right?
@@Gordon1Wong yes
@@DiscoverTaiji thank you very much for your quick answer! 🙏🙏🙏 I am going to join the online training as I have mastered Song Kwa of entry level to Fa Jin few year’s ago. I am wondering if I can skip some beginner’s programs and directly learn the advanced techniques after your test.
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Would you like to let me know how long is the best duration for this Qigong ?
Thank you for sharing with us.
Ahhhhh interesting!!! Lol that’s exactly how Huang sheng shyan sounds during his crane form...awesome to see this
No surprise there- that's where Adam learned it- directly from Huang Sheng Shyan himself and his Taiji
yjmsrv I don't think that's the case. The year Huang died Adam was 12
I use another method to work My Chi, Taoism breathing, that is to say, inhale the belly and squeeze, and I raise the perineum While the diaphragm descends downwards, and exhaling we weary the pelvic diaphragm, and push the whole thing down to get the ball of Chi
? How can I breath out while pressing down the diaphragm and keeping the belly out, both movements keeping the lungs expanded? I do not understand, can someone explain?
Your lungs are not in your stomach so it's possible 😀.
@@Bevallalom that´s not really helpful... the diaphragm is what moves down when you breath in because the lungs are expanding. By moving down, the diaphragme pushes the belly outward. So even though the lungs are not in the stomach, they expand into the stomack when it´s done with diaphragm movement. When you breath out, the diaphragm moves up, compressing the lungs and letting the belly retract again. Do you have an explanation other than stating where the organs are? Can you explain the mechanics?
@@rightsaidralf9018 The diaphragm can function 2 ways: not only has a respiratory function, but also a postural/stabilizing function too that can be maintained independent of breathing. You can basically figure it out if you just follow/figure out the instructions.
Look to the work of Dynamic Neuromuscular Stabilization from the Prague School for more details on the 2 different diaphragm functions, as well as learning now to asses/improve it. A more traditional method where it is seen is "gentle" vase breathing from Tibetan Buddhism.
I know its no longer in the course but i enjoy it a lot. How many reps should we do?
I'll learn and practice this. Thank you.
One of the exercises learning breathing and relaxing for white crane
Very interesting - in regular qigong we go up when inhaling and down when exhaling, and also send qi to the Limbs with our mind. Why this opposite rise and fall? You are also keeping the stomack out exhaling?
yes, it is not "regular".
@@DiscoverTaiji No I know its no regular ;) Regular was a bad choise sorry. I just want to be intlightened by your great knowledge - please
@@cwjorgensen1 with this practice you mention, it is mind dependent. Therefore there is no guarantee.
Awesome, thank you!
About 1:40 in you say: "when you breathe out you're going to press the feet into the floor and press the diaphragm down, allowing the abdominal bag to expand" then you say "as you exhale you press the diaphragm down". Respectfully, when you exhale the diaphragm goes UP, not down; it's the diaphragm rising (along with the viscera rising where it has sunk into the pelvic floor plus the contracting ribs and associated intercostals etc.) that helps to empty the lungs... at least, that's how I learned it. Do you think I'm wrong? Have I misunderstood what you're saying?
Corrections and more detailed instructions for this exercise can be found in the Discover Taiji course and via its online community.
see my comment below: ua-cam.com/video/HnsW-T1te2A/v-deo.html&lc=UgxIW7yVxb1ftuc2Art4AaABAg.9HYHBqhroCv9lCuEyZehZ3
Diaphragm as 2 functions, and one of them can be independent of breathing. So yes, you can engage the diaphragm while breathing out
Thank you for your generosity is this a white crane exercise from Master Huang Shen Sheng or is it Taiji
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Is the abdominal bag the false lower dantien? Many thanks.
It doesn't matter . . .
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no, I believe he's talking more literally here. It's just the cavity/canister area
Merci bcp de nos sifu Adme Mziner.
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Can I ask you, please? You do the same also during application?
no
@@DiscoverTaiji So what is the purpose of sending qi to the limbs?
@@kubotan26 part of the purpose is to build a Qi body structure, which takes time, another part is to clear toxins, another is to energize and re educate the body. Also when you train with this Qi in all limbs, you are moving with something, or no-thing rather than nothing.
@@naturalman4185 interesting thanks for the reply.
How long we have to do
Wonderful!
its quicker by post.
Hello great, wish you good health and success
🤟thanx!
thanks
This type of breathing actually called the valsalva maneuver in powerlifting; a stable base is created using intra-abdminal pressure so that there's not too much power loss in the torso
it's not valsalva, as you don't close the airway. You're breathing out while pressing the diaphragm, that does increase IAP though
What about the 5th limb...?