Widow is allowed to run free because her natural predator, Lucio Mafia, can’t cook. We were sent to a time pre Lucio Mafia. A dark era in the Widow v Lucio history.
I've been playing since 2016 and I've loved this event. Considering how little they actually understood their game it's a miracle they got heroes like Genji, Tracer, Winston, Reinhardt, and Zarya right on the first attempt and there weren't more Reapers and Torbjorns.
Seriously. Like the fact that launch Symmetra was playtested and approved by the team to go live is insane. She’s literally one of the worst designed heroes in any game ever 😭 cosmetic right click orbs that float at 2 speed, no healing, useless shield ability, turret placement is extremely difficult and clunky and short range, beam is ridiculously short range… holy yikes. The community gives the Devs a ton of shit but they really have done a good job at reworking and modernizing the kits of many heroes over the years to be much healthier and better.
21:27 you don't have to, if the turret is already level 2 when you ult it instantly goes to lvl 3 And also the ult is not bad, in fact it is really OP you more health than a roadhog and have a ridiculously faster fire rate
I've never played Overwatch Classic prior to this year, and I'm also a Tracer main. She feels more fun to play since it feels like I can actually escape enemies, when in OW2, she's not the most mobile anymore and she still has the lowest health One thing of note is that I've found Symmetra one of the most fun characters to play in OW Classic. Everything in her kit is just really fun. I enjoy the beam, how it looks, how it functions. It feels like a more balanced version of Moira succ, and I hate Moira's lock on! I love how Symmetra isn't able to lock onto enemies from 20 metres away. The Teleporter also feels so much more impactful and interesting to play with than her OW2 ultimate. Giving shields to allies feels good too. I swear, I've played OW Classic Symmetra more than I've ever played her in OW2 There are definitely improvements that could be made to every character, but overall, OW Classic just feels better to play. I even caught myself willingly playing Winston, and I never play him. I never play Tank, but I willingly do now cause Reinhardt and Winston are fun to play in OW Classic
Listing Widow, Tracer, Genji, and Winston as the top tiers then saying Zen is the best healer is madness. If any of the top tiers get a whiff of Zen he dies.
Zen is the "meta" pick, that's how old school dive worked. Both teams had zen and the goal was when the enemies dive your zen you dive theirs and if you didn't kill the zen you lost the fight.
I personally disgaree about torb, sure he isn't perfect but i have so much fun with him, he actual feels like an proper builder, setting up that strong defensive backline and giving out armor packs feels rewarding, i will say sure the upgrade speed is slow but i think its a fair trade off cause good lord that turret is no joke with all that health and way more damage unlike the live service game where its just very pitiful, plus you feel the weight behind every hammer swing, Plus the cooldown for the turret starts when its deployed meaning you have access to it way more and you have so much more choice and opportunitys to micromanage like where do i set up the turret?, should i upgrade it now?, who needs armor the most right now?, etc And that ultimate is insane, you basically get two ults in one the level 3 turret absolutely wrecks house, and you get a better version of Torbs modern overload and the amount of hammer kills and people i shred with torbs tighter spread on his shotgun (without the turret up) is crazy Im not saying old torb is perfect by any means, he definitely needed a rework but if i had to pick between old torb and newer torb im just saying my choice is clear, its baffles me how many people underestimate this version of torb
@@user-zu2fh7lg8f depends on how you play him, for instance on attack I would throw down level ones and only really upgrade once I got the chance, and I can always throw down an turret just to build up ult, and just shot from far away tho I do admit he needed a rework but I hate what he was given
I lowkey miss old bastion. I understand that new bastion is objectively better and needs to be the way he is due to double shield. But self repair and tank ult were parts of his identity that was lost to time.
Ive played d.va since beta and i cant believe i used to play that. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Im amazed they took a look at that character and thought "yep, perfect, lets release her!!!!" Its like they didnt even play test her.
100% widow ruins the game. It's so annoying getting dropped to 50 hp from across the map. Then if you're lucky you can hide behind a wall and try to touch a health pack because your team has 0 supports. If you're not then the widow lands a follow up shot and now you're sitting in the respawn screen for 10 seconds
Girl no amount of ego grandstanding will change the fact that launch Sym is one of the worst designed video game heroes in history lol. Love my girl but holy shit she was poorly designed and balanced at launch. She was designed for failure until the reworks. Both her Sym 2.0 rework with shield gen and her current DPS state are wayyy better and healthier designs. That being said I still wish they would put her back to Support and give her a fair shot at being a good support with another rework. I feel like she will never get the attention and pickrate and viability she deserves as a DPS.
symmetra 1.0 was so ass its insane. 2.0 wasnt any better compared to the other supports but atleast she was somewhat functional.... she got less and less functional as time passed till she was inevitably reworked again but atleast she worked for some time 1.0 was so bad she didnt even last more than 8 months
Widow is allowed to run free because her natural predator, Lucio Mafia, can’t cook. We were sent to a time pre Lucio Mafia. A dark era in the Widow v Lucio history.
I remember when torb, sym and bastion were seriously considered troll picks back then. nowadays every hero has at least their niche and can function.
I'll be honest, a bastion that understands his risk reward or plays with his team just feasts on the enemy team. Sadly widow deletes him.
I've been playing since 2016 and I've loved this event. Considering how little they actually understood their game it's a miracle they got heroes like Genji, Tracer, Winston, Reinhardt, and Zarya right on the first attempt and there weren't more Reapers and Torbjorns.
Seriously. Like the fact that launch Symmetra was playtested and approved by the team to go live is insane. She’s literally one of the worst designed heroes in any game ever 😭 cosmetic right click orbs that float at 2 speed, no healing, useless shield ability, turret placement is extremely difficult and clunky and short range, beam is ridiculously short range… holy yikes. The community gives the Devs a ton of shit but they really have done a good job at reworking and modernizing the kits of many heroes over the years to be much healthier and better.
@@SirenRyanno fr her primary fire is exaggeratedly short like omg im standing RIGHT in front of people and it doesn’t attach lmfao it’s crazy
witnessing my harmony and discord orbs travel with standard package delivery time was straight up jarring
I’ve been a dva main since launch and I forgot how rough I had it back in 2016.
Dva feels so unplayable now that I’ve been spoiled
Yep and I loved it so much
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i love having to choose between the live game and widow nightmares
D.va bomb being 1 sec longer actually killed me on Ilios lighthouse yesterday, I believe I juked myself but still
that torb hammer animation really is bringing the drama lol
21:27 you don't have to, if the turret is already level 2 when you ult it instantly goes to lvl 3
And also the ult is not bad, in fact it is really OP you more health than a roadhog and have a ridiculously faster fire rate
imo the only reason widow is good is cause nobody is actually playing "meta". 2 winston / 2 tracer / 2 zen comp people used to play would roll widow
Now that we have a scoreboard, Sym actually mitigates a lot of damage. In one game I managed to block almost 35,000 damange.
That was due to a bug. Classic u did shield ally once not reapply it once they lost it when alive. I agree I like the bugged version better.
Strange that you put Junk that low, despite his lack of mines, he feels really effective as his mines has no falloff if I'm not mistaken.
I've never played Overwatch Classic prior to this year, and I'm also a Tracer main. She feels more fun to play since it feels like I can actually escape enemies, when in OW2, she's not the most mobile anymore and she still has the lowest health
One thing of note is that I've found Symmetra one of the most fun characters to play in OW Classic. Everything in her kit is just really fun. I enjoy the beam, how it looks, how it functions. It feels like a more balanced version of Moira succ, and I hate Moira's lock on! I love how Symmetra isn't able to lock onto enemies from 20 metres away. The Teleporter also feels so much more impactful and interesting to play with than her OW2 ultimate. Giving shields to allies feels good too. I swear, I've played OW Classic Symmetra more than I've ever played her in OW2
There are definitely improvements that could be made to every character, but overall, OW Classic just feels better to play. I even caught myself willingly playing Winston, and I never play him. I never play Tank, but I willingly do now cause Reinhardt and Winston are fun to play in OW Classic
Listing Widow, Tracer, Genji, and Winston as the top tiers then saying Zen is the best healer is madness. If any of the top tiers get a whiff of Zen he dies.
Zen is the "meta" pick, that's how old school dive worked. Both teams had zen and the goal was when the enemies dive your zen you dive theirs and if you didn't kill the zen you lost the fight.
I personally disgaree about torb, sure he isn't perfect but i have so much fun with him, he actual feels like an proper builder, setting up that strong defensive backline and giving out armor packs feels rewarding, i will say sure the upgrade speed is slow but i think its a fair trade off cause good lord that turret is no joke with all that health and way more damage unlike the live service game where its just very pitiful, plus you feel the weight behind every hammer swing,
Plus the cooldown for the turret starts when its deployed meaning you have access to it way more and you have so much more choice and opportunitys to micromanage like where do i set up the turret?, should i upgrade it now?, who needs armor the most right now?, etc
And that ultimate is insane, you basically get two ults in one the level 3 turret absolutely wrecks house, and you get a better version of Torbs modern overload and the amount of hammer kills and people i shred with torbs tighter spread on his shotgun (without the turret up) is crazy
Im not saying old torb is perfect by any means, he definitely needed a rework but if i had to pick between old torb and newer torb im just saying my choice is clear, its baffles me how many people underestimate this version of torb
I never played ow1 and I absolutely love the identity he has in classic. Defensive mechanic is such a unique class for a hero shooter
He's great for 2CP and that's about it really. Current OW player base is waaaay too good for pirate ship to still be an effective strat
@@user-zu2fh7lg8f depends on how you play him, for instance on attack I would throw down level ones and only really upgrade once I got the chance, and I can always throw down an turret just to build up ult, and just shot from far away tho I do admit he needed a rework but I hate what he was given
To put 50% Discord into perspective, that means a Widow headshot is 450, or a bodyshot is 225
13:03 you can cancel GA
I lowkey miss old bastion. I understand that new bastion is objectively better and needs to be the way he is due to double shield. But self repair and tank ult were parts of his identity that was lost to time.
The only thing I miss is being able to stun him out of turret
Tank Bastion was objectively more fun
I do remember top 10s from back then.
Lucio is opaf. That speed is godly.
Lucio is pretty strong and was the Meta pick way back in 2016, the problem is that he is incredibly boring and clunky.
Ive played d.va since beta and i cant believe i used to play that. She has no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Im amazed they took a look at that character and thought "yep, perfect, lets release her!!!!" Its like they didnt even play test her.
100% widow ruins the game. It's so annoying getting dropped to 50 hp from across the map. Then if you're lucky you can hide behind a wall and try to touch a health pack because your team has 0 supports. If you're not then the widow lands a follow up shot and now you're sitting in the respawn screen for 10 seconds
If you suck at Sym right now, you just 🗑️, even 1.0 can make crazy plays and shield mitigation, yall dont know how to use her
Girl no amount of ego grandstanding will change the fact that launch Sym is one of the worst designed video game heroes in history lol. Love my girl but holy shit she was poorly designed and balanced at launch. She was designed for failure until the reworks. Both her Sym 2.0 rework with shield gen and her current DPS state are wayyy better and healthier designs. That being said I still wish they would put her back to Support and give her a fair shot at being a good support with another rework. I feel like she will never get the attention and pickrate and viability she deserves as a DPS.
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symmetra 1.0 was so ass its insane. 2.0 wasnt any better compared to the other supports but atleast she was somewhat functional.... she got less and less functional as time passed till she was inevitably reworked again but atleast she worked for some time
1.0 was so bad she didnt even last more than 8 months
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