Wooden crankshaft - will it work?
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Wooden crankshaft - will it work?
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."...weird knocking sound...."
Somewhere in there is a woodpecker joke.
@Vivian Stimpson Nicely punned :D
@Vivian Stimpson OK, Vivian, that's enough. No more Diet Dr Pepper for you. :)
@Vivian Stimpson Yah, it helps to be a little goofy now and then. Thumbs up to ya.
Vivian Stimpson haha. I do have to ash you a question though. Wooden ironwood be better
They need to make reversed gears in a car
Now I wait for wooden engine Block 😃
Then a whole wood engine? That would be awesome too!😎
I think they did one with a wooden cylinder head
Me: That won't work at all
Also Me: Watches video anyway
You mean that wooden work
I thought that maybe it'l start, but it won't hold up.
Edit: They glued the thing together, so I really don't think so.
I knew they couldn't even get it past the compression stroke while starting it.May be they could get it to start with a solid piece of wood but It still wouldn't be able to turn a load.
@@iuhsdihdslifuvholuidfh I was really surprised it didn't lose its shit after the plugs went in. Just the starter fighting compression would seem to me to be everything something like that could handle and then some...
Then it breaks and they attempt to rebuild it. This is why I can't be a tuber... I have common sense
Literally, thats exactly what i said & did 😂
Should have drilled some holes and put in a few pins and then glued it together :)
I agree. A few finely drilled holes and glued wooden dowels would sure that right up
Roller bearings like early four cylinder motorcycles engines. Kawasaki Z, Suzuki GS.
@@eugenehall390 Was thinking same :) Was surprised they skipped it. Wooden dowels as in furniture. Two for each connection to prevent rotation.
@@beaterbikechannel2538 yeah but that would require some machine tolerance but would definitely make a difference
nails or screws too
Vlad: oyoyoyoy
BMI russian: thats it, where did it break?
He was translating the other guy
@@aleks_jones Same. Someone help please.
LOLs
@@aleks_jones не
That would make a good sand casting mold
Typo in the title:
"Wood it work?"*
This could be cirrected
cool joker there * i mean cool joke there *
No it wooden work.
Jeez guys, I only made a terrible joke, leaf me alone.
@Vivian Stimpson thanks dude, didn't mean to be a birch about it.
You will have to revisit this one. Try making it out of a single log.
Or at bare minimum some dowel pins along with the glue
I studied and practiced fine joinery and carpentry for 5 years. I am by no means a master carpenter. Far from it. But I had the privilege to learn what I learned from master carpenters. A single piece of wood in this application would actually be weaker. Its all about aligning the grain to prevent fracture. The wood is strongest when load is applied perpendicular to the grain, loads applied parallel to the grain cause the wood to split along the grain. If he drilled large holes through the journals and glued in hickory dowel rods through the journals it would have lasted longer. Using laminates of thin layered plywood built up to the needed thickness for the webs of the crank would have also increased strength. Better yet, make the journals out of solid round dowel rod, hickory or ironwood, or osage orange, something like that, and make the webs out of high grade plywood comprised of thin laminate. I still dont think it will work, but it will last longer. You will be able to get the engine to fire this way. How LONG it will last is another question. Another note, the wood must be knot free as knots are only strong under compression, they fall out when tension is applied!
Need hardwood.
Just send me the money it takes to produce the video... I'll explain it doesn't work, and we can go on, mmmkay?
It will be a billet then....and you know how that makes things better
It held up a lot longer than I thought it “wood”. Sorry, I’ll leave😂
Haha still "wooden" go
Probably lasted longer than a brand new stock Lada crankshaft "wood". LOL
10:53
Vlad: "Blin!"
Translation: "That's a shame!"
"Blin" is such a magical word, isn't it?
@@SwapBlogRU "Blin" is a mild, not obscene form of the magical word "Blyad" ))
@@alexego4686 thank you, sir, noted ;)
You need to revisit this but with the crank made by a woodworker who knows how to do it right.
And make it out of iron wood to even stand a chance.
Just sacrifice a rainforest tree for the experiment
@@megaglowz8540 I think it would have to be a custom-bent plywood to have any chance of running. No way any solid piece (even ironwood) is going to stand up to the torque without shearing along the grain lines.
@@Marauder252Go hug a tree.
Oak is a dense wood. They should make one piece out of that.
This makes me think of that Top Gear special in Africa lmao. "All you need is a piece of Mopane wood..."
Aluminum crankshaft: "I'm the lightest around!"
Wooden crankshaft: "Hold my beer"
You do know that most wood is actually heavier than aluminum
@@Xeraghusta yea wood is used becase its cheaper and sometimes resistent and light
@@Xeraghusta You do know that no wood is actually heavier than aluminum. It's not even close. Better consult some density tables like this one >> www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html
@@xenuno I guess @UCnBYNcjlJfAPwbw4UjiMGGA got burned...
@@xenuno LOL Owned!!
hahaha thats crazy, the game is "car mechanic youtuber simulator"
Plastic crank
The game doesn’t even look bad
Is the game playable in english?
@@taylorharrison8765 That's what I wanna know for real.
I want the game!!! But I don't know Russian...
just add bolts through the glued areas, and affix some metal stock to the bearing race areas and it will work and not breakdown
Wooden pegs would do too, and keep it 100% wood and glue.
@@angryhairpeice yeah, now we're cooking with gas!
Use epoxy and oven harden it... And lubricate the top end and bores too :)
Dont even need an oven with suncast. Steve meed has some out that works really good IMO.
Don't see why the expected something glued together would have worked.
I normally never like voice overs but this is an exception fr it’s well done and Ive been watching for a few yrs now
At this rate they might aswell just make an entire engine out of wood!🤣
It would give a new meaning to calling a car a "woody".
I studied and practiced fine joinery and carpentry for 5 years. I am by no means a master carpenter. Far from it. But I had the privilege to learn what I learned from master carpenters. A single piece of wood in this application would actually be weaker. Its all about aligning the grain to prevent fracture. The wood is strongest when load is applied perpendicular to the grain, loads applied parallel to the grain cause the wood to split along the grain. If he drilled large holes through the journals and glued in hickory dowel rods through the journals it would have lasted longer. Using laminates of thin layered plywood built up to the needed thickness for the webs of the crank would have also increased strength. Better yet, make the journals out of solid round dowel rod, hickory or ironwood, or osage orange, something like that, and make the webs out of high grade plywood comprised of thin laminate. I still dont think it will work, but it will last longer. You will be able to get the engine to fire this way. How LONG it will last is another question. Another note, the wood must by knot free as knots are only strong under compression, they fall out when tension is applied!
@@smh9902
Seems they could learn a lot from your expertise.
@@lessevdoolbretsim Its all very contextual. Its also how the load is applied whether its parallel to grain or not. For example, if you you a plank with a rabbit (a rabbit is an offset tongue with one side of the tongue being a continuation of one face of the board) you want the rabbit side pointing in the direction of the load. If the rabbit is facing against the direction of the load then the grain is more likely to split as you're concentrating the stress inside the inner corner of the rabbit. This is just a simple example of many different facets that must be considered when orienting wood joints to maximize the strength of the plank. Grain orientation and consideration, coupled with high surface area for good flue contact (this is why very fine finger joints can be stronger than dovetails in some applications) is everything when it comes to the strength of wooden joints. Japanese puzzle carpentry is a great example of particularly elegant joinery. When I transitioned from learning fine carpentry due to there no money in the ancient artisinal skills anymore, too few people appreciate fine carpentry for a a carpenter to afford a reasonable living, and I wasn't interested in slapping together homes with nails, I picked up machining and engine building. Read some books on metallurgy and studied engine designing and engineering very intensely for over a decade thus far. Most machinists and welders subconsciously think of metal as a homogeneous material equally strong irrespective of direction, but grain structure also exists in metal. The only true monolithic metals being metal glasses which is a bleeding edge area of materials science research. Castings are the only forms of metals we are familiar with that are effectively agnostic to direction of load. Rolled bars, sheets, plates, etc. derive much of their strength from the compression and orientation of the crystallized grains of metal being compressed and elongated parallel to the direction of the rolling mill. This is why forged parts are, all other factors being equal, always stronger than billet parts. Their grain structure has been aligned with the shape of the part and consequently is uniquely suited to handle the loads for which the part has been designed for. Billet parts are like this wooden crankshaft, the grain of the metal has not been oriented to optimize strength. Forged metal components differ from wood in that their gran orientation can be made to elegantly bend, ebb, and flow with the contours and corners of the parts being manufactured. Wood cant do that with near the degree of flexability and the ability to take sharp corners with grain orientation. Though wood can be bend with steam and pressure to create interesting wooden arches, contours, etc. which are stronger in some situations that straight planks of wood joined together, metal grain structure can be made to take immediate bends that are effectively arbitrarily sharp (IE as tight of a corner as you like) and can be made to do so with much greater ease then steam bending wood.
Drill holes, and put pegs in them to lock the glued pieces together.
Exactly fit dowels to the glue joints. It will then work.
exactly
yeah, that's what I said. You guys are as smart as me is.
@@buddhaflipdotcom8470 Sorry, I didn't hear you.
I see the logic but surely under load, the dowls (pegs) would become the weak point? If not them, the holes they're in especially when or if he was successful in starting the engine?
My "crankshaft" hasn't had "wood" since I turned 67 years old.
@Karen Chaleria-Buttinski She's my EX-WIFE for a reason!! :)
Now that I am 63 years old, this isn't so funny... :o(
Have you noticed how peaceful your life has been since you turned 67. Willie nelson also announced one day. "it's official willie nelson has outlived his penis!"
@@ZebraFacts but you don't have so many hassles in your life. No?
@D. B. Well here's the thing; as a part of my divorce settlement, my ex got to keep my nads in her purse. My doctor tells me I need to get them back........but I'm afraid of her.........
Even if it didn't work, the workmanship on that crankshaft is really top notch.
This channel never fails to deliver the goods, another quality video by Vlad and the team
Just make the whole engine wood
(Its just a joke)
I was thinking the same make a whole engine out of wood
Nah takes too long and the end if it would start it wouldnt be more then 5 seconds
cand make a block of wood as a engine though. not easy any way.
@@cliffcorbitt9494 yeah there are some elements that you just cant make out of wood like springs that you need for the valves, too much work
It wouldnt work.
strengthen the joints with a wooden insert like dow rods like a tenon joint. maybe 3 or more per joint
Bro I totally agree... Dowel pins would make that thing so much more ridgid
I am surprised it went that far , amazing work
I originally thought "wow, that's some amazing woodwork to make the crankshaft out of 1 piece".
Was super disappointed to see it glued..
me too... and then the way it was glued (no clamps, etc..) was just a guaranteed mess... honestly surprised it lasted for as long as it did
I am pretty sure a single piece would have been able to start and idle for some time.
@@buddy1155 probably, imho, as well... until the journals got to hot/messed up. I think a BIG factor would be to have it running "right" too! I think they should've set the ignition timing BEFORE even trying to start it, instead of just twirling the dizzy around while cranking... I think a few "fires" that are too far advanced would be REAL hard on a wooden crank!
@@billymanilli I think the main issue would be lubrication of the journals, just how good they are lubricated (and cooled by the oil) would make the difference.
@@buddy1155 Yeah, man, I guess we see it pretty much the same then! I was thinking along the lines of "even if we could dry-sump oil it, or stick the oil pump pickup in a pan of oil or something... I wonder how long it would take the wood to soak up the oil and expand/soften/make a mess/etc.."
At any rate- would love to see someone actually machine a crank out of a good hard piece of wood and try it again lol
"that self tapper you put in there , ain't doing shit" 🤣
I like how the game is even the narrators voice
It's also f2p wich is nice of them
Lmfao! Vlads reaction to the fireball got me hollering over here! 😂😂
Im gonna like Garage54 more often. You guys deserve it👍
Did they seriously think that wood glue would hold up the the forces of pistons firing???
Maybe some dowel pins or dog key
The glue is stronger than the wood if applied correctly.
The glue itself isnt the problem
One solid piece made from a solid oak wood would hold up
For real. I was annoyed they used glue. Should’ve drilled holes and connected the pieces via screws and bolts
I love how much effort in detail there is on all the insane projects you guys do. To destroy them😂😂
Classic this guy is doing all the things we used to Jake around about. Well done keep up the good entertainment !!!!
That's cool. Im curious to see a all wood engine run! That would be amazing
Depends on what kind of wood. MANY different kinds of wood. Some wood can be as soft as cork and others stronger than steel..
Hope they try again with another one. At least quebracho.
While there is no wood stronger than steel, there are woods stronger than others
@@ehodzic155 morning wood
Hickory
@@foreverendeavors6210 Yes Or Ebony wood but that will destroy tools
Try a wooden crank in a singal cylinder 2 strock engine
That way wont have no valve to open & close and no cam shaft 🤔
Nice idea, lots more heat and stress tho I’d say
Might work for a minute with a hard wood
@@UA-camforcedmetochangemyname that's what she said ! Lol
@@twatdidusay304 lol
@@twatdidusay304 I laughed way to hard at that
I just love this channel, you see something done done to vehicle's that no one else would ever do.
You would have to machine a crank out of 1 solid block of hardwood like oak... Season it / harden it or so
Glueing end grain to end grain is the weakest glued joint, too. Single piece of tough hardwood, machined to shape... might work for a while.
Almost had me wondering if I could copy-mill a crank into wood.
IPE would have held up a lot better
8:06 That’s what she said!
Plus, that wooden crankshaft might make for a nice decoration in the garage.
That came a lot closer to working, (especially using simple glued joints), then I thought it would.
Your Truly a Legend Brother !!!
Much Love from the U.K 😍
I am glad I found this channel. Truly incredible the work these guys put into trying crazy ideas. Glad to see content coming out of Russia also, I hope Russia stays open for the rest of the world. Some seriously cool people there.
Did you hear the one about the wooden car? With the wooden wheels? And the wooden engine?....The only problem is, it wooden move!!!
Dad joke of the year
The car on Gilligan's island did but he drove the wooden car. For the Howells
Yep. Otherwise Fred Flintstone wood have used it .
I would drill and pin the wood together along with the glue. 2 pins on each joint
Yup...glue alone is not enough...either they make wooden dowel or joinery
Fun to watch you try the things you do !
This is a great idea to test, and it would be cool to see the difference in performance between this wooden crankshaft and one that is carved from one piece of wood.
He could make a forged wooden crankshaft by forcing a tree to grow through some iron pipes welded in a jig in the shape of a crankshaft. it would take about two years to grow though.
How many of us would like to see them make a Hovercraft out of a Lada,
Thumbs up if it's a YES!
Let's hope this works, here's to knocking on wood...
I'll show myself out.
Nah, dude, stick around, that was actually a pretty good one!
"Treat me nice, treat me good;
For I am made of wood."
A real machinist may have been able to make a whole crank out of wood with the right lathe chucks and tools that would have probably stayed together for a little bit, but it probably still would have broken in the long run. I still love the crazy ideas you come up with and try.
I would LOVE seing you guis make a 4 cilinder engine work like a 2 cilinder , making It fire cilinders 1 and 4 at the same time and then 3 and 2
Now there's an interesting one, and on a standard 4 cylinder it would be possible but requires a redone camshaft and after that simply change the ignition to fire 2 at the same time. Massive torque peaks but uneven RPM I would guess.
That's how it would run if it was 2 stroke but i don't know how much work would be needed to make a 4 stroke engine 2 stroke
The 2000 mpg(yes that is miles per gallon) vehicle efficiency projects have motors that only fire every 10 or more revolutions with a massive(by comparison) flywheel. There are lots of interesting experiments that could be done by varying the crank and cam setups like you suggest.
@@jonahcottrell2879 No, it does not need to be made a two-stoke. There is simply a delay between the firing of the two sets of cylinders. Not hard to understand...
@@murmenaattori6 not hard to actually read my comment either lol I never said it needed to be 2 stroke just that it would be how it'd fire in a 2 stroke configuration
Never clicked so fast in my life
Me too lol
Same
How you can click slow??:)
i'm seriously impressed it got as far as it did.
VLAD!!! I hope youtube translates my English into russian. I'm a Mechanical Engineering major at a university in Colorado and I wanted to give you suggestions on how to improve the ridgity of your WOODEN crank shaft :). So instead of using glue to just connect the counter weights, main journals and connecting rod journals into one crankshaft unit. Instead, use wooden dowels with the addition of glue to JOIN all the components together. This will give the crankshaft extra mechanical strength than just having glued contact surfaces... If you think of wood grain, it flows in one direction, which is why when chopping wood, it's better to chop it with the grain in the vertical direction instead of the horizontal direction... You probably know this already, but I just wanted to say that with the same concepts of using wooden dowels to connect all the components together, you take advantage of the wooden grain being in the horizontal direction... SO the force exerted onto the connecting rod journals will exert the force onto the wooden dowels, instead of just the glue contact surfaces... I hope you understand this, your channel is an inspiration to me on "thinking outside the box." Please keep up the awsome work man. You aught to do a feature on your show where other people show off the ubsurd mods they have done to their cars lol. Best of luck Vlad. -Evan
To @Garage 54
Make a full wooden engine. Block crank pistons vavles etc. See if it will run.
maybe it will rexplode
It woodn’t start
@@humzaiqbal5469 Good one
Hell ya if the game looks anything like what you show.. HELL YA I WANT TO PLAY IT!!!!👍👍👍
Finally a mobile car game that is actually what you would expect
I wish I could visit your shop! You guys do some awesome projects.
Damn they got a game now?
Also RIP wooden crank
Should've used dowels instead of relying on glue.
Who on Earth ever thought of using wood for an engine crank? Why, Garage 54 of course!
only the genuine Lada parts survived this test
I knew this wooden work
Oookay... now try to make a SOLID (without cutting it into small parts) crankshaft out of ironwood and see how long that lasts
Thinking the same thing. There are woods like that which would work and get it to reliably idle with tensile strengths exceeding 3ksi but the cost and availability is outlandish for some of them. You'd also need a pretty large blank to start with and Ironwood may not be available in such a large size.
And stronger wood too..
6:20 this guy just hiding behind the corner 😂waiting for it to go BOOM
Hands down best channel
"Why does it keep breaking?" I couldn't imagine why. :-P
3d print a crank 😀😀😀🤣
That can be done now with metallic 3D printers with sintering(spelling?) lasers.
Sick idea!
You guys are true craftsman. 👍
Nice work. I'm surprised it last that long. And one tip, wood glue is much stronger if you clamp down glued pieces.
0:29 You can almost count how many polygons the cybertruck truck has.
For your second revision I suggest drilling holes in every link and use wooden dowels to strengthen the connections. There are ones being long enough to fit the cranks in full length and noone could honestly tell you didn't just use wood because you did!
Another thing I was a little concerned about was that every wood glue I know needs loads of pressure while curing. I am not shure, if you have put enough pressure to the linkages.
And one last thing would be to lube up the pistons with Motocoty and the crankshaft with something along the lines of wax to give you more time to play with the engine.
Need is relative; the pressure is there to minimize the gaps so there's as much wood and as little glue as possible, and no air. In this application I doubt it made much difference. I fully agree with your idea to reinforce the joints with pins; that would make it MUCH stronger because you'd have solid pieces of wood taking the shear instead of glue joints.
Use PVA wood glue and dowells to lock all the crankshaft pieces together so they cannot turn and break off !
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I was surprised that the glue held up under compression at the first try. Great video.
I just downloaded the game😱 it’s awesome
Is it available in english?
Leon's LEGO creation yes!
he hears knocking ... I wonder if the engine is "knocking on wood" for good luck
That Game looks cool.Good try on the wooden crankshaft.👍
omg thanks a lot for game team "Garage 54"
Haven't started the video yet, but I'm gonna go with "no"...
My guess is no, but lets see 🌚
Notification squad ftw
I "Wood" like to see a revisit of this build. It could possible work if the journals were dowel pinned together instead of just glued.
Sold piece is possible, just tricky with the offset machining. Wood glue lol. I love the amount of work too make it look so good. Always smile at your videos!
Please for heck's sake, don't give general motors any ideas about how to ensure their cars fail just after warranty.
A GM car won't last long enough to see the end of any warranty..lmao.. Been there before!
Hydraulic lifters? No oil in motor maybe the valves weren't opening
Come on it's a lada engine. You adjust clearances with a sledgehammer.
You do the craziest shit I've ever seen. It's pretty awesome
Very few unlikes..people appreciate hardwork 👏👏👏
I am a wood worker. I see that the crankshaft is put together in sections. This can work but I have a couple of suggestions. Wood glue is very strong but needs to dry overnight. Second the glue joints need to be clamped together and clean from any grease. Third to increase the strength you need to use wooden dowels between the joints or use wood screws in each section put together. If you glue two pieces together properly the wood may break before the glue which is very strong. If I had a Lada crankshaft here in Florida I would be inclined to try it. Also try a hard wood maybe Walnut tree wood.
I just love this channel
"I do hear a weird knocking noise, but no worries I guess"
*Subaru owners have entered the chat*
I was expecting a fully turned crankshaft, but okay, I guess that's one way of doing it... It would be good to see a fully turned one though.
These guy's are awesome !
Thank you for trying. It was educational and entertaining.
I love all the comments on how to get that wooden crank to actually work.
A bit of a Lead Ballon scenario.
These guys should team up with Myth Busters for an international episode.
Great content. Why aren't more people subscribed?
Me and my wife are installing this game as we watch this video. I cant wait to play it.
I studied and practiced fine joinery and carpentry for 5 years. I am by no means a master carpenter. Far from it. But I had the privilege to learn what I learned from master carpenters. A single piece of wood in this application would actually be weaker. Its all about aligning the grain to prevent fracture. The wood is strongest when load is applied perpendicular to the grain, loads applied parallel to the grain cause the wood to split along the grain. If he drilled large holes through the journals and glued in hickory dowel rods through the journals it would have lasted longer. Using laminates of thin layered plywood built up to the needed thickness for the webs of the crank would have also increased strength. Better yet, make the journals out of solid round dowel rod, hickory or ironwood, or osage orange, something like that, and make the webs out of high grade plywood comprised of thin laminate. I still dont think it will work, but it will last longer. You will be able to get the engine to fire this way. How LONG it will last is another question.
This is what I needed at 3am😂😂
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Wooden Valves next please :)
Dude your channel deserves 50 M SUBSSS
🔥❤😍👌awesome video nd love from INDIA. the reason why the crankshaft have broke is because you are running the motor DRY without oil, because u have tried to start the motor alot of time and during that process the oil in the main crankshaft bearings have dried out nd that resulted in the breaking of the crankshaft 😅😅
Good effort, I didn’t even think it would work with no load.