It also sounds very much like something the Doctor might say as his last words. I get why fans back then didn't like Adric so much but apparently some of the writers didn't either since they outright killed him off.
@@ashleybrooke2087 that is weird - i was just a kid and totally fell in love with Adric and he for me was when Dr Who became - less safe and predictable. It was a glorious season
And thus began a slow downward spiral for the Fifth Doctor that lasted his entire tenure. His entire "family" of companions began to break up after that, with only Tegan left after most of his original "trio" left and/or died. He never really got over this event, and "Adric" the very last thing this incarnation ever said, is further proof of that. Indeed, in future regenerations The Doctor would feel immense guilt over this boy's death, with a great deal of stress and worry placed on other companions' lives for this exact reason; to prevent it from ever happening again. The Fifth Doctor only got 5-6 carefree adventures before Adric's death. After that, he was never the same.
I always remember that in order to get their tragedy the writers had to come up with this incredibly convoluted explanation in the next episode as to why the doctor couldnt just simply nip back in the tardis to a few minutes earlier, pull adric off the bridge of the freighter, and bog off out of it. They had the dues et machina right there and the doctor just chose not to use it. None of his explanations really satisfied, especially as he was in such a rush to rescue him before. But the plot problem is - with a time machine you would literally have all the time in the world to fix the tardis and do the rescue. Doctor Who just takes everyone on holiday in the next story to cheer them up. He just came across as a callous prat.
@@scudder91 That's really the problem with every single Who adventure if one digs that deeply, there's no issue that can't be solved Bill and Ted style by just going back and setting up the things you need later, but that of course removes any danger or drama. Thus the show has to resort to hand waving and phrases like "fixed points in time" and all that. New Who is just as guilty, see "Angels of Manhattan" for just one example
@@acerumble Yeah Claras death bugged me a bit for this reason, it's like Doc, you've dealt with this exact scenario, just go fine a Teselector and let it take the hit (its probably still in the Tardis I mean he's shit at giving stuff back), it's really not that hard, I mean a few billion years being atomized and re-intergrated may of fried your mind a bit, but seriously
Well, the "Behind the Sofa" in the new Blu Ray ruined it for me as Janet and Sarah admitted they, as Tegan and Nyssa, were straight out laughing when they hugged after Adric's death. Given that information, is pretty noticeable when you watch it.
Yes that was unforgettable. I was only a kid when I saw that, but the BBC didn't run the proper end credits/music. But it was just silent with the broken badge.
*Whovian:* Um...Uh.....Ok he uses lasers and other space guns, but he sure as hell doesn't use Earth guns. ua-cam.com/video/lzmnPs64K74/v-deo.html *Whovian:* FUCK!!!
This was a big bone of contention, as the TARDIS is meant to be in a state of grace inside which renders weapons useless.. yet it was ignored for earthshock
@@Shanethefilmmaker not sure I've ever heard music like that alongside the Doctor... It fits! Tom breaking that guy's neck has to be the worst, best and funniest example of his violence though and there's no weapon there! Anyway yeah the Doctor bears arms a lot even a few times in New-Who, but it does make sense that he might have developed an aversion to guns since the Time War and didn't have the same taboos and issues in his first 8 faces. He does seem to be generally more trigger happy and ready to kill (directly or indirectly) when it's clear his opponents can't be reasoned with until New-Who. And the times when he's been shown to pick up a gun since then have - off the top of my head - always been when the time war or reminders of it have been involved (the end of time, a town called mercy) or when in anguish over a companion (Rose in bad wolf, but like he said "like he was ever gonna shoot" or over bloody Clara in Hell Bent, when he actually did go ahead and shoot the General which was actually unbelievably bad now I think about it, and done for all the wrong reasons - over Clara of all companions and of course to enable the bait regeneration - not because it's what the Doctor - certainly not the 12th Doctor - would really do)...
I always liked this scene in an emotional way. They delivered it really well. I hate how regenerations and companion deaths are spoiled by the media a month before the episode is aired. This one was highly unexpected and was followed by silence and nothing else. It gave the viewer time to think about it and decide what they felt about the event.
Back then we didn't have the Internet to spoil things like this. When I first saw this as a teem my month dropped! I was like that couldn't be happening! To think that a companion could die. I was also shocked by Peri's death as well(the Vateyard made up one).
I'm not sure if the character Adric was hated aka disliked or Mathew Waterhouse on set. Remember Tom was having a fling with one of his female costars then she left. I know latter on Mathew wrote the tell all book and some did not like it. Part of it pointed out Tom's drinking. I feel later Tom realized what he had as a lifetime role. Then came around and embraced the fans WHO loved him and the Doctor. I think it is time to FORGIVE Mathew on his book. For I respect him for being who he was and @ a young age in an Amazing Adventure.....
Say what you want about Adric, this scene was tragic. And while I only saw this for the first time a few years back, the silent credits that appear (with Adric's smashed badge in the background) after this scene gives me shivers every time.
It had such an impact on the Doctor, that the very next episode, when Teagan says let's have time to grieve, he's like "Who wants to go on a holiday?" And, from that point on Adric is but a quickly forgotten memory.
The silent credits & their scrolling over Adric's broken Badge For Mathematical Excellence was definitely VERY effective. And to top it off it was the 1st time an actual companion died (characters like Brett Vaughn can't br counted as companions even though they did travel with the Doctor - because they were only in 1 story arc).
@@DigitalBath742 I've just seen Terminus for the first time the other day and Turlough (who I like to be fair) just gets to move into Adric's room (which looks just like it did in Earthshock and so must have remained untouched by The Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan since they lost him) and Tegan helps him and beyond picking up a Kinda necklace (which might have been more about remembering her experience with the Mara again than remembering Adric; Adric's full circle music does get played again though, as does Nyssa's Traken music later and that definitely was about Nyssa) doesn't seem to care, she's much more focused on her suspicions of Turlough to be fair but I think she even says something like "I don't care" at some point in that scene. And I don't think the Doctor or Nyssa acknowledge at any point that Turlough has moved into Adric's room or even that he is replacing him (though it does seem like the Doctor was thinking about Adric when meeting Turlough and inviting him aboard throughout Mawdryn Undead)!
I was 5 and a half years old when I watched this at home with my family when it was originally broadcast. The two things I vividly remember were Adric leaving the safety of the others behind at the last moment when the door slid shut. I remember feeling a sickening sense of dread because I just knew that he had made a grave error. The other thing I remember was the shattered badge and silent credits.
I just instinctively knew that he was safe one minute and in danger the next and that he really should have gone with them. I think I knew that he was going to die even though it wasn't reported back then in the way that it is today when a character was leaving and I was too young to be aware of the media.
It's agonising to watch Adric leave everyone else to try to save the freighter when you know his fate. You're aware of what's about to happen but you want more than anything for him to bail and save himself.
I just watched this ep last night. the end credits nearly made me cry. in the ep before- he could have given the Doctor the cordinates back to e-space and he would have been safe. but no- he stayed and died. ❤️rip adric, the best in all doctor who history❤️🪦
My experience is similar. I think we got it a bit later in Canada and I was a bit older but I still remember this scene very well, it really stuck with me for some reason. For some reason I misremembered it somewhat as Aldric saying something along the lines of "At least now I know how the dinosaurs died."
this was shocking as the Cybermen came back after 7 years the media didn't know anything about this and Adric dying was a massive shock as companions normally do not die so this was a massive shock all in all one of the best shocks in Doctor Who was Adric's death
Rose killed about half a million Daleks, then helped the Doctor send millions more to the void where they probably didn't survive. Ian, Barbara, Donna, Oswin and Clara all caused to have a lot of Daleks killed as well off the top of my head! Ace also killed at least one (the baseball bat), Jack killed six, blasting three the same way (including the Crucible's Supreme Dalek) and disintegrating another three using the Anne-Droid, and Martha killed a passel of their pig-slaves (with Spiderman and Tallulah helping, but she came up with the plan). Jack also either managed to kill a couple of Toclafane or get a couple of soldiers killed fighting them - or both. Of course Jack probably did a lot of killing but probably not counting as a companion, he's a bit of a special case. Unless he's not and just scores a very high body count amongst companions! Suppose if River counts... And Mickey's Cybermen... Rory probably ended up killing a lot of people as a Roman too and speaking of Cybermen was the Doctor's willing partner when he blew up all those cybermen in A Good Man Goes to War. Jamie has definitely killed a Cyberman or two as well, he shot one with the x-ray gun in Tomb and he wasn't exactly against Toberman killing any of the others. I'm sure Ben had a go too. Jamie basically accidentally killed a guy with that test gun in part 1 and 2 of Tomb as well. Jack killed a Cyberman too when he and the others shot down CyberLisa after she took the pizza girl's body (horrible; again though not really a companion anymore then, kind of a special case), and they probably had to deal with a few cybermen themselves wherever they were when they appeared! Oh yeah Tegan and Nyssa both take down a Cyberman each in this story! With cyber-guns! Just off the top of my head but I just thought they were interesting/odd examples to choose! But yeah Adric probably comes out on top anyway - the genocidal maniac! ...But he did save the people of Earth in the time the ship was from and enable their existence to be fair though... Was kind of the cybermen who killed the dinosaurs... Adric just inadvertently became part of history and inadvertently avoided causing a paradox-ish where had he let the ship crash in the future - the conference the cybermen were concerned with wouldn't be happening, nor would their human enemies be there, so the freighter would never have been made so couldn't crash and whatever it did crash into (maybe more evolved dinosaurs) would experience the same catastrophe as the past dinosaurs would have done perhaps even leading to a much delayed human race that may or may not end up recreating the same events (paradox-ish)!
@@Myne1001 I was trying to focus on Cybermen (and Daleks) since it was Earthshock, outside of that there will be many more of course! Although I don't actually remember the savage killing many people on screen I thought the Doctor didn't approve and held her back often but I can't say I remember for sure, have seen all the Leela stories but not for a while; I think her run is one of the best of the show
Yes my sister was very upset. I was much older so not bothered. Not many main characters suddenly killed off in a show shown in kids viewing time in the 80’s.
After thirty years, that sequence is still just as powerful today as it was then. I was never a fan of Adric but his death and the fallout it had reverberated until the end of Davidson's run, all the way to Caves of Andronzani, highlighting what a remarkably dark and weighty period that was in the history of the series. Bravo.
Adric's circumstances aside, the fear of not knowing whether you're right or wrong in the decisions you make can really screw with you. Adric's pain is totally understandable here.
When I watched this in 1982 aged 8 I thought that bit at 1:50 where he grates Adric’s badge into the Cyberman’s grill was a foreshadowing. “That’s it, the badge is gone now, Adric’s a goner.” Although I was sad and shocked I was impressed with how they’d done it. A great moment in television.
I was 5 at the time and I had the same inkling that he was due to cop it at the point where he leaves the escape pod at the last minute because I realised that there was no going back.
I think most incarnations used weapons , TARDIS, sonics, nitro9, hand of omega, the moment, a dalek gun, cyber guns and companions. However only one incarnation CARRIED a gun...the war doctor!
@@NeilCWCampbell m.ua-cam.com/video/lzmnPs64K74/v-deo.html Of particular note is 0:49 where he's not even using a sci-fi gun just a regular pistol, and the ending where he fucking snaps a guy's neck.
Don't believe everything you've heard about him - he wasn't as awful a character as he's often made out to be. In a lot of ways he was just a typical, headstrong teenage boy who'd been told he was super-clever all his life, to the point where he believed it more strongly and more often than perhaps he should've. Which, in the end, contributed to his death...
I hate that they dont reference the classic Who series enough in the NuWho.I guess they dont want to piss off millenials who mostly like the new series but dont research the classic
the producers still were angry Mathew wrote that tell all book... buttheads, he only told the truth and in the end Tom B. came back to embrace the role and his fans forever. God Bless them all.
0:30 I love the use of the booming sound to signify Tegan's sudden realisation that everything she's ever believed about the extinction of the dinosaurs is wrong.
You know, I think a better plot of the Series 8 finale would be the TARDIS getting a telepathic message from Adric, and the Doctor getting really freaked out; he and Clara would then search for the source of this message (getting help from Tegan and Nyssa), and finding 3W and Missy. Then when the Cybermen awake it could be Adric that saves Clara (and anyone else there with her). He could then lead the army of Cybermen into the clouds to destroy them, and as he did that he would make some kind of quip about 'doing it again'. I apologize for my poor writing, and if you think this makes no sense, then just spit it out.
It's not that it doesn't make sense. It's that the execs would never allow it. Part of the reason DW's lasted so long is because it doesn't become too embroiled with continuity in the long run, and the one time it did, (6th Doctor era,) the show got canceled soonafter. So I don't think the writers would want to make a character that hasn't been seen in over 30 years a prominent plot element.
Having them revisit that moment in "the power of the doctor" still hurts. Classic who fans and who fans that have UA-camd this clip and then saw the return of Teagan and the fifth doctor talking about this briefly definitely feel this.
It's hard to recapture the impact this had on the show and its viewers. Especially if you were a kid and expected the Doctor and his companions to always escape. After this no-one was safe and the jeopardy was terrifying!
I think the favourite fan explanation is that Cyber Leaders had limited emotional capability in order to make leadership decisions on instinct. Kind of like how the renegade Daleks used mindslaved school girls in their battle computer.
I really love this Cyberman design... I prefer the look of a man inside a metal suit than a robot... And I would prefer for the Cybermen to carry guns.
I actually love the new Cyberman design. It looks brutal, efficient and cool. And having shooty things attached right to the armor just makes sense and adds to the efficiency. But I agree, it is a flaw that they now just look like robots and that you won't recognise that there is a human being under all that metal.
It was my pleasure to meet Matthew Waterhouse at a convention in Toronto years ago. I thanked him for that heroic death scene, it left a real impression on me.
Hypothetical exchange between the Fifth Doctor and a fan at a convention. Fan: But you-- you killed Adric! Fifth Doctor actor/Peter Davison: (nonchalantly) And so???? Fan: (Thumbs up) Good going, man! Fifth Doctor: That scene still pays off dividends at fan-cons over 30 years later! Patrick Stewart, at the same con: Dammit! I always wanted to arrange for Wesley to go, too! Maybe a good transporter accident or the computer 'accidentally' opening the shuttle bay and turning off the forcefield when he was the only one there!
***** There was only about 8 Cybermen costumes, the only scene where you see more is that episode 3 cliffhanger where they use a mirror effect to make it look like there are 3 groups when it's just one group
Such a memorable scene! Poor Adric, I had liked him when watching the Tom Baker Doctor Who stories on the Horror Channel, and it was a real shame to lose him.
to all those of you who complain about bad acting or bad special effects: WHO CARES? This is one of the best stories of the classics, certainly the best of the Davison years. Not to mention it was the first appearance of the Cybermen in seven years. Give them a break, it was the eighties and the budget wasn't brilliant to work with, but imo it's still a whole lot better than some of the stories today. heck, anything is better than love and monsters.
Both OldWho and NewWho have had awful stories and episodes. Brain of Morbius comes to mind in OldWho, as does Kill The Moon in NewWho. We still get 5+ decades of episodes to choose from to watch and watch again [minus the desolate years], which is more than any other franchise, any other character, any other hero offers us, anywhere. We shoud be overjoyed at that, rather than picking out one of the worst stories in NewWho to compare to this video's storyline.
IMO, it would have been fine, had it stuck to canon. Instead, it tries to tell us there were other iterations of the Doctor before Hartnell's, and that just doesn't make any sense at all the way the entire Whoniverse was constructed throughout the rest of the years, before or after that. It destroyed all of that. You have to ignore most of that whole episode if you want to believe in the entire rest of the stories. That's the one thing that runs through the entire story of the Doctor, that it's nearly always consistent with canon. When a writer ignores that canon, like with Brain of Morbius, I have a hard time forgiving them.
Adric‘s badge came in handy when the Doctor used it with some gold behind it because gold is the Cybermen‘s weakness,the kind of metal that plugs up their chest units and makes them suffocate.
+Andrewnuva199 Especially for the 8th Doctor :'( He suffered the most out of them all. And He barely had any time to shine in the TV. It's just sad how brilliant all those stories where and how brave they were.
It is sad. You can have such scary villains like the Weeping Angels and the Silence, but not have the level of violence that they had in the original show. The Ark in Space, The Brain of Morbius, The Seeds of Doom, Remembrance of the Daleks, Earthshock, Attack of the Cybermen, The Curse of Fenric, Terror of the Autons, Spearhead from Space, Inferno. They all had a great deal of violence in them.
If you think this is violent, you should see Colin Baker's first season. Pretty much every story was filled with green alien blood (with a bit of human blood thrown in just for the heck of it)!
Finding out the actor Mathew Waterhouse is gay before streaming the series he stared in I was in love with the idea. Remember I had read about his writing the book about staring on the show and had comments on Tom's drinking. That had turned fans against him WHO loved Tom.. Truth at that time he was having an affair Tom that is with his female costar then she left the show. So he most likely was bored and drank a bit. But I think afterwards years down the road he realized what a lifetime part he had and embraced the fans WHO loved the show and him at those conventions. He was at peace and I feel fans should forgive Mathew for his book. Lord a 21 year old gay boy in a role of a lifetime.... WHO could imagine....
TRANCE DANCE GEMINI no it wasn't it was perfect...then Hellbent happened....clara isn't Jesus. she shouldn't be the most important person in the universe. the impossible girl made all companion deaths worthless. mean nothing her death shoewed that she was getting cocky. she was trying too much to be like the doctor and she died because of that. poetry in motion
I remember crying when Adric died, it was the first time Id experienced death of a a character I liked, I think I was about six. I also remember my Dad being pleased the Cybermen were back.
I tried liking Clara, I really tried. But unlike Amy and Bill, Clara just made the show staid and boring to watch. I found Series 9's episodes were best whenever it was "Clara-lite"
G_Man You can like whoever you want like that’s good but there’s no denying Clara has done the most for the doctor , and also the doctor cares the most for Clara than any companion
I think everyone saw Adric as a little annoying sometimes, but he's still one of my favourite Doctor companions. His death scene still makes me feel sad to this day. Matthew Waterhouse did a great job portraying him, especially in his final episode.
I remember watching this when I was 9 years old & the final credits played in total silence. Apart from me crying my eyes out, that is. 47 now....still haven't recovered...x
Back when I was a highly emotional preteen, I would watch things that saddened me over and over until I "got over it," so to speak. As he was my first Doctor, I tried this out first with Ten's regeneration and stopped feeling sad about it after about 4 or 5 times of rewatching the episode with his regeneration. I didn't get into Classic Who until after my more emotional phase ended, but watching this for the first time absolutely shocked me (I did my best to avoid spoilers for anything related to Classic Who.) I've watched this scene and Earthshock over and over and over again, but it always leaves an impact on me no matter how many times I sit through it. I love how Classic Who perfectly nails the right amount of emotion to be effective without going overboard. Although it has (quite understandably) less than impressive special effects and goofy lines at times, Classic Who is actually pretty ingenious. [Please note that this is my personal opinion, and I am in no way bashing on NuWho or Steven Moffat. I actually enjoy the new series to an extent, but I prefer Classic. :)]
This was one of the first Doctor Who stories I ever watched as a child. The caves with the androids, the Cybermen bursting out of the silos and the screaming of the Cyber-Leader dying was a lot for me as a kid. Genuinely gave me nightmares. As an adult the scariest part is now how some fans talk about it. Taking such glee in a character's death just because they didn't like that character... It's quite disturbing.
No, I liked him as well. The only time I found him bad was in Four to Doomsday, where he was poorly written and made to look like an idiot. But in this story and many others I found him to be quite likeable.
I remember watching that scene, back in the day. Of course, it was a few years later, on PBS, because I'm in the US. But, I remember being, absolutely, dumbstruck. I think, I actually, teared up, a little. It was the saddest, most unexpected thing that I ever expected to see on Doctor Who. It was made even more tragic, by the closing being just Adric's broken badge, with no theme music.
What breaks my heart the most is the face he makes before his death. He died alone and in fear. Candlelight vigil for all the companions lost over the years. 🕯
In the classic series K was an unlucky letter if you were a companion. The other three that died were Katerina, Sara Kingdom, and Kamelion. I reckon with Adric they just pretended there was a silent (and invisible) K at the start of his name. Bye bye Kadric!
The difference is Catherine Tate was a good actor and Adric was independent and uncoorapative for all the wrong reasons. What good comes out of siding with the villain in pretty much every story?
Frank Cabanski Oh, come on. If you're going to try and claim the majority of Donna's scenes in S4 were constant ranting, you clearly don't remember that series much.
That's because New Who is not memorable. It's over dramatic, every moment a crescendo. When everything is so dramatic, nothing is memorable. "I AM THE DOCTOR! NOBODY WILL DIE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Just came back from watching this Ep last night. most depressing death in all Doctor Who history. In the episoad before he could have just given the Cordinates to the doctor and gone back to E space. but he stayed and died. and the end with his broken star and dead silent background will forever haunt me. RIP Adric the best companion ❤️🪦
And people say Six being violent in Attack of the Cybermen was bad. All he did was shoot the Cyber Leader. Five scrapes Adric's badge into his chest unit then shoots him repeatedly with his own gun!
Six did kill Shockeye with cyanide. Though five did plan on assassinating Davros in "Resurrection Of The Daleks". Both were incredibly violent at times.
@@MrJacMac1968 i feel like most people have only watched the 'have i the right' scene and not the whole episode, because as you say he just goes back to commit genocide afterwards anyway.
@@stewartmair3995 The Doctor didn't really commit genocide as such, he only wiped out the machinery to make potential Daleks and left the completed ones alive.
When this episode came out, the Chicxulub meteor was known (although only recently) as the cause of the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event, but the view of the earth looks more like modern day southeast Asia. Of course, that detail doesn't detract from a really good DW episode, and Adric's best.
I'm a NuWhovian and haven't seen many of the classic episodes, but Adric has always been my favorite of the old companions. And let me just say that this made me cry. Oh Adric, you clever thing.
+Anna Wells same with me here, I' ve just seen a few episodes of "classic" doctor who, but adric is my favourite companion, I don't understand why almost everyone seems to hate him, he was so so smart
Anna Wells agree with you. Loved the actor and the character. What if Captain Jack could meet Adric now, what a couple.... Torchwood new much needed but with the old writers.
Since I have been looking at episodes of Patrick Troughton playing "The 2nd Doctor" I now see just how much Peter Davison incorporated Troughton's facial expressions and manner of speaking into his turn as "The 5th Doctor"... *RIGHT HERE:* 0:39 Watch his eyes and listen to the way he says words...
I always had this theory that adrics death was a fixed point in time similar to Amy and Rory’s death in the angles take Manhattan which is why the doctor could never go back because the freighter had to crash in order to kill the dinosaurs.
In the following story Tegan and Nyssa ask the Doctor to go back in time and save Adric (as Nyssa points out, the TARDIS is surely capable of it). He replies that even he can;t break some rules (this one being the First Law of Time, enforced by the Time Lords - they cannot interfere in their own time-line), that adrics death must be accepted, and never ask him to to do anything like that again.
Fifth Doctor shooting a Cyberman in the chest to defend himself: No outrage. Six fighting back against two people trying to push him in a pool of acid, which ends in them dying in the pool: THIS IS MURDER!! THE DOCTOR JUST COMMITTED MURDER!!!
the doctor actually could have saved adric because he didn't know for a fact that adric died. he only saw the ship explode. it's possible that as the doctor was watching the ship crash, just before the ship exploded the doctor himself was in the ship saving adric. similar to how he was able to save the people in the fires of pompeii because he didn't know for a fact that those individuals ever died in the volcano. he just knew that the volcano erupted and couldn't stop that from happening because it's a known event.
If people don't like Adric then blame the writers and director for it. The actor does not write nor change things unless the afore mentioned let it.....
"Now I'll never know if I was right" is one of my favorite right-before-death lines ever
It was certainly a great line to go out on.
It also sounds very much like something the Doctor might say as his last words.
I get why fans back then didn't like Adric so much but apparently some of the writers didn't either since they outright killed him off.
@@ashleybrooke2087 I actually liked him growing up
@@ashleybrooke2087 that is weird - i was just a kid and totally fell in love with Adric and he for me was when Dr Who became - less safe and predictable. It was a glorious season
He was right.
Fun fact:
In 2:02 you can hear Janet Fielding's honest scream of terror when a spark landed on her hair.
I never knew that! Sounds quite funny... flambé Fielding! 😂😂😂😂😂
Miopod ow
Yikes. I hope she wasn't seriously hurt, though I can't blame her for being startled.
2:05 doctor shoots the cyberman with his own gun.
@@trollzynisaacjohan1793 that's a good spot. The doctor never uses guns...
Alas Adric, you died how you lived.
Inexplicably wearing that strangely-coloured jumpsuit.
Laffalot with the fashion police hot in pursuit of him for crimes against fashion?
AdamiRose I can't work put why his outfit simultaneously looks terrible and awesome
It was the 80’s all of it was terrible and awesome.
The Fashion Police are too busy trying to stop the 6th Doctor.
Kimberley Downing Been watching the pink windmill kids recently, and Adric wouldn't look out of place there
And thus began a slow downward spiral for the Fifth Doctor that lasted his entire tenure. His entire "family" of companions began to break up after that, with only Tegan left after most of his original "trio" left and/or died. He never really got over this event, and "Adric" the very last thing this incarnation ever said, is further proof of that. Indeed, in future regenerations The Doctor would feel immense guilt over this boy's death, with a great deal of stress and worry placed on other companions' lives for this exact reason; to prevent it from ever happening again. The Fifth Doctor only got 5-6 carefree adventures before Adric's death. After that, he was never the same.
But did he ever go out with a bang in Caves of Androzani 😎🍿
I always remember that in order to get their tragedy the writers had to come up with this incredibly convoluted explanation in the next episode as to why the doctor couldnt just simply nip back in the tardis to a few minutes earlier, pull adric off the bridge of the freighter, and bog off out of it. They had the dues et machina right there and the doctor just chose not to use it. None of his explanations really satisfied, especially as he was in such a rush to rescue him before. But the plot problem is - with a time machine you would literally have all the time in the world to fix the tardis and do the rescue. Doctor Who just takes everyone on holiday in the next story to cheer them up. He just came across as a callous prat.
@@scudder91 That's really the problem with every single Who adventure if one digs that deeply, there's no issue that can't be solved Bill and Ted style by just going back and setting up the things you need later, but that of course removes any danger or drama. Thus the show has to resort to hand waving and phrases like "fixed points in time" and all that. New Who is just as guilty, see "Angels of Manhattan" for just one example
Which is ironic because the stories started getting better after this point...
@@acerumble Yeah Claras death bugged me a bit for this reason, it's like Doc, you've dealt with this exact scenario, just go fine a Teselector and let it take the hit (its probably still in the Tardis I mean he's shit at giving stuff back), it's really not that hard, I mean a few billion years being atomized and re-intergrated may of fried your mind a bit, but seriously
You forgot the bit where Nyssa and Tegan start crying and the end credits are just a close up of Adrics broken badge...
Well, the "Behind the Sofa" in the new Blu Ray ruined it for me as Janet and Sarah admitted they, as Tegan and Nyssa, were straight out laughing when they hugged after Adric's death. Given that information, is pretty noticeable when you watch it.
Yes that was unforgettable. I was only a kid when I saw that, but the BBC didn't run the proper end credits/music. But it was just silent with the broken badge.
@@PaulMichaels2010 I liked that they did that. A moment of silence for Adric. I call that respect. 😢
Yeah I remember that
"The Doctor doesn't use guns"
The Doctor: Choke on gold! Hah! Got your gun! ZAP ZAP ZAP!
It was the only way to save nyssa and tegan
*Whovian:* Um...Uh.....Ok he uses lasers and other space guns, but he sure as hell doesn't use Earth guns.
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*Whovian:* FUCK!!!
This was a big bone of contention, as the TARDIS is meant to be in a state of grace inside which renders weapons useless.. yet it was ignored for earthshock
@@roundtheloopandback which has since been dubbed "a clever lie" by the Doctor
@@Shanethefilmmaker not sure I've ever heard music like that alongside the Doctor... It fits! Tom breaking that guy's neck has to be the worst, best and funniest example of his violence though and there's no weapon there!
Anyway yeah the Doctor bears arms a lot even a few times in New-Who, but it does make sense that he might have developed an aversion to guns since the Time War and didn't have the same taboos and issues in his first 8 faces. He does seem to be generally more trigger happy and ready to kill (directly or indirectly) when it's clear his opponents can't be reasoned with until New-Who.
And the times when he's been shown to pick up a gun since then have - off the top of my head - always been when the time war or reminders of it have been involved (the end of time, a town called mercy) or when in anguish over a companion (Rose in bad wolf, but like he said "like he was ever gonna shoot" or over bloody Clara in Hell Bent, when he actually did go ahead and shoot the General which was actually unbelievably bad now I think about it, and done for all the wrong reasons - over Clara of all companions and of course to enable the bait regeneration - not because it's what the Doctor - certainly not the 12th Doctor - would really do)...
I always liked this scene in an emotional way. They delivered it really well. I hate how regenerations and companion deaths are spoiled by the media a month before the episode is aired. This one was highly unexpected and was followed by silence and nothing else. It gave the viewer time to think about it and decide what they felt about the event.
I agree it's all spoilt today I like to find out when it happens. I hope there's a few surprises in the new series of Dr who this autumn
Back then we didn't have the Internet to spoil things like this. When I first saw this as a teem my month dropped! I was like that couldn't be happening! To think that a companion could die. I was also shocked by Peri's death as well(the Vateyard made up one).
I'm not sure if the character Adric was hated aka disliked or Mathew Waterhouse on set. Remember Tom was having a fling with one of his female costars then she left. I know latter on Mathew wrote the tell all book and some did not like it. Part of it pointed out Tom's drinking. I feel later Tom realized what he had as a lifetime role. Then came around and embraced the fans WHO loved him and the Doctor. I think it is time to FORGIVE Mathew on his book. For I respect him for being who he was and @ a young age in an Amazing Adventure.....
@@danielueblacker9118 what?
"How many have died in your name?"
"A lot...ish maybe"
Yes
But how many more have lived because of his name!
Like 2 or 3
And not for very long.
Say what you want about Adric, this scene was tragic. And while I only saw this for the first time a few years back, the silent credits that appear (with Adric's smashed badge in the background) after this scene gives me shivers every time.
FOR REAL DUDE
it's not his death that makes me cry it's the credits.
It had such an impact on the Doctor, that the very next episode, when Teagan says let's have time to grieve, he's like "Who wants to go on a holiday?" And, from that point on Adric is but a quickly forgotten memory.
The silent credits & their scrolling over Adric's broken Badge For Mathematical Excellence was definitely VERY effective. And to top it off it was the 1st time an actual companion died (characters like Brett Vaughn can't br counted as companions even though they did travel with the Doctor - because they were only in 1 story arc).
@@DigitalBath742 I've just seen Terminus for the first time the other day and Turlough (who I like to be fair) just gets to move into Adric's room (which looks just like it did in Earthshock and so must have remained untouched by The Doctor, Nyssa and Tegan since they lost him) and Tegan helps him and beyond picking up a Kinda necklace (which might have been more about remembering her experience with the Mara again than remembering Adric; Adric's full circle music does get played again though, as does Nyssa's Traken music later and that definitely was about Nyssa) doesn't seem to care, she's much more focused on her suspicions of Turlough to be fair but I think she even says something like "I don't care" at some point in that scene. And I don't think the Doctor or Nyssa acknowledge at any point that Turlough has moved into Adric's room or even that he is replacing him (though it does seem like the Doctor was thinking about Adric when meeting Turlough and inviting him aboard throughout Mawdryn Undead)!
I was 5 and a half years old when I watched this at home with my family when it was originally broadcast. The two things I vividly remember were Adric leaving the safety of the others behind at the last moment when the door slid shut. I remember feeling a sickening sense of dread because I just knew that he had made a grave error. The other thing I remember was the shattered badge and silent credits.
@ 5 1/2 you had a great mind.....
I just instinctively knew that he was safe one minute and in danger the next and that he really should have gone with them. I think I knew that he was going to die even though it wasn't reported back then in the way that it is today when a character was leaving and I was too young to be aware of the media.
It's agonising to watch Adric leave everyone else to try to save the freighter when you know his fate. You're aware of what's about to happen but you want more than anything for him to bail and save himself.
I just watched this ep last night.
the end credits nearly made me cry.
in the ep before- he could have given the Doctor the cordinates back to e-space and he would have been safe.
but no- he stayed and died. ❤️rip adric, the best in all doctor who history❤️🪦
My experience is similar. I think we got it a bit later in Canada and I was a bit older but I still remember this scene very well, it really stuck with me for some reason. For some reason I misremembered it somewhat as Aldric saying something along the lines of "At least now I know how the dinosaurs died."
this was shocking as the Cybermen came back after 7 years
the media didn't know anything about this
and Adric dying was a massive shock as companions normally do not die
so this was a massive shock all in all
one of the best shocks in Doctor Who was Adric's death
***** people don't find this shocking but literally it was
The look of the Cybermen from that period is still my favorite. So much better than what we have today.
jrice73 that's true I liked those Cybermen david's Cybermen were good too but I don't like the new ones with matt and peter
Beatleslokiandbread that's true
Fast-forward to now where the Cybermen's return was ruined by the trailers.
The highest body count of all the companions
River song: a hundred, maybe two
Mickey Smith: a LOT of cybermen
Adric: the dinosaurs
This is hilarious😂😂😂
the doctor: an entire planet
Rose killed about half a million Daleks, then helped the Doctor send millions more to the void where they probably didn't survive.
Ian, Barbara, Donna, Oswin and Clara all caused to have a lot of Daleks killed as well off the top of my head!
Ace also killed at least one (the baseball bat), Jack killed six, blasting three the same way (including the Crucible's Supreme Dalek) and disintegrating another three using the Anne-Droid, and Martha killed a passel of their pig-slaves (with Spiderman and Tallulah helping, but she came up with the plan).
Jack also either managed to kill a couple of Toclafane or get a couple of soldiers killed fighting them - or both. Of course Jack probably did a lot of killing but probably not counting as a companion, he's a bit of a special case. Unless he's not and just scores a very high body count amongst companions! Suppose if River counts... And Mickey's Cybermen...
Rory probably ended up killing a lot of people as a Roman too and speaking of Cybermen was the Doctor's willing partner when he blew up all those cybermen in A Good Man Goes to War. Jamie has definitely killed a Cyberman or two as well, he shot one with the x-ray gun in Tomb and he wasn't exactly against Toberman killing any of the others. I'm sure Ben had a go too. Jamie basically accidentally killed a guy with that test gun in part 1 and 2 of Tomb as well. Jack killed a Cyberman too when he and the others shot down CyberLisa after she took the pizza girl's body (horrible; again though not really a companion anymore then, kind of a special case), and they probably had to deal with a few cybermen themselves wherever they were when they appeared!
Oh yeah Tegan and Nyssa both take down a Cyberman each in this story! With cyber-guns!
Just off the top of my head but I just thought they were interesting/odd examples to choose!
But yeah Adric probably comes out on top anyway - the genocidal maniac!
...But he did save the people of Earth in the time the ship was from and enable their existence to be fair though... Was kind of the cybermen who killed the dinosaurs... Adric just inadvertently became part of history and inadvertently avoided causing a paradox-ish where had he let the ship crash in the future - the conference the cybermen were concerned with wouldn't be happening, nor would their human enemies be there, so the freighter would never have been made so couldn't crash and whatever it did crash into (maybe more evolved dinosaurs) would experience the same catastrophe as the past dinosaurs would have done perhaps even leading to a much delayed human race that may or may not end up recreating the same events (paradox-ish)!
@@them1ghtyalex don't forget Leela killed like two dozen people during her time on the show
@@Myne1001 I was trying to focus on Cybermen (and Daleks) since it was Earthshock, outside of that there will be many more of course! Although I don't actually remember the savage killing many people on screen I thought the Doctor didn't approve and held her back often but I can't say I remember for sure, have seen all the Leela stories but not for a while; I think her run is one of the best of the show
This had a massive impact on me as a child.....still not a massive an impact as the freighter.....
Badum- tsss
Good one my liege
Yes my sister was very upset. I was much older so not bothered. Not many main characters suddenly killed off in a show shown in kids viewing time in the 80’s.
HA, YOU MADE A FUNNY
How dare you Adric dies 😂😂
After thirty years, that sequence is still just as powerful today as it was then. I was never a fan of Adric but his death and the fallout it had reverberated until the end of Davidson's run, all the way to Caves of Andronzani, highlighting what a remarkably dark and weighty period that was in the history of the series. Bravo.
Tenth Doctor: I'd never!
Fifth Doctor: Hehe. Pew pew, tin man!
Adric probably would've had better chances is he wasn't using a typewriter
I blame the retro modern movement of the far future. They thought they were being cute, making those controls look like that.
XD I noticed that
And if he weren’t standing back from the keyboard like it was going to explode at any second (bad acting on Matthew Waterhouse’s part).
@@collegeman1988 Glad I wasn't the only one who noticed that!
I guess I can't blame him. He's young and it really was going to explode at any moment with those sparks.
In my opinion, "Now I'll never know I was right" is sadder than "I don't want to go."
Adric's circumstances aside, the fear of not knowing whether you're right or wrong in the decisions you make can really screw with you. Adric's pain is totally understandable here.
probably because Adric actually died. Ten's whining just comes off as metacommentary from RTD
@@cement_eatereither that or a completely and unnecessarily childish temper tantrum thrown by The Doctor, himself.
@@DoctorWhoKage por que no los dos?
@@cement_eaterde acuerdo. Son los dos.
When I watched this in 1982 aged 8 I thought that bit at 1:50 where he grates Adric’s badge into the Cyberman’s grill was a foreshadowing. “That’s it, the badge is gone now, Adric’s a goner.” Although I was sad and shocked I was impressed with how they’d done it. A great moment in television.
I was 5 at the time and I had the same inkling that he was due to cop it at the point where he leaves the escape pod at the last minute because I realised that there was no going back.
He was brave. He saved everyone from the Cybermen.
You will be forever remembered, Adric.
Yeah... I didn't want to remember that...
You again.
I don't want to experience this...so sad.
The First Doctor Don't worry you've got about another 3 life's before you experience this :)
Doctor Who Nerd A hand full of heart beats for a Timelord, my boy.
The First Doctor Hey! Adric traveled with me long after I regenerated out of you!
todays' who: "the doctor never uses a weapon"
5th doctor: yeah... about that....
I think most incarnations used weapons , TARDIS, sonics, nitro9, hand of omega, the moment, a dalek gun, cyber guns and companions.
However only one incarnation CARRIED a gun...the war doctor!
@@NeilCWCampbell m.ua-cam.com/video/lzmnPs64K74/v-deo.html
Of particular note is 0:49 where he's not even using a sci-fi gun just a regular pistol, and the ending where he fucking snaps a guy's neck.
12th doctor literally shot and killed the general lol
He shoots him 9 times. He wanted the Cyber Leader dead, dead, dead!
Yep, that's called *C H A R A C T E R D E V O L P M E N T*
I may have never seen an episode with Adric, but after hearing those last words I desperately want to
+Cryer24597 I like State Of Decay and The Visitation with Adric in too
Don't believe everything you've heard about him - he wasn't as awful a character as he's often made out to be. In a lot of ways he was just a typical, headstrong teenage boy who'd been told he was super-clever all his life, to the point where he believed it more strongly and more often than perhaps he should've. Which, in the end, contributed to his death...
You know in that flashback when Davros asks the Doctor how many people have died in his name? It should've include Adric!
But it would've been too confusing for the NuWho fans.
I hate that they dont reference the classic Who series enough in the NuWho.I guess they dont want to piss off millenials who mostly like the new series but dont research the classic
the producers still were angry Mathew wrote that tell all book... buttheads, he only told the truth and in the end Tom B. came back to embrace the role and his fans forever. God Bless them all.
@@MrJacMac1968 Hur dur milleniansl are the bad hur durr with those cellphone things
@@arrowtt3364 that's a pretty dumb excuse not to embrace the shows own history.
I just love the non-chalant, simple and matter-of-fact titling of this video
0:30 I love the use of the booming sound to signify Tegan's sudden realisation that everything she's ever believed about the extinction of the dinosaurs is wrong.
I wish I had that boom sound when I realised that.😂
"This is the TARDIS, we have Cybermen on board!" she said into the multimeter.
Radio Shack at that....!
@@cannong1728 My father had that exact model and I noticed it at the time.
Yeah well, what do you talk to your multimeters about then? 🥴
Later...
Hello Adric, I'm Missy. Welcome to heaven.
You know, I think a better plot of the Series 8 finale would be the TARDIS getting a telepathic message from Adric, and the Doctor getting really freaked out; he and Clara would then search for the source of this message (getting help from Tegan and Nyssa), and finding 3W and Missy. Then when the Cybermen awake it could be Adric that saves Clara (and anyone else there with her). He could then lead the army of Cybermen into the clouds to destroy them, and as he did that he would make some kind of quip about 'doing it again'.
I apologize for my poor writing, and if you think this makes no sense, then just spit it out.
It's not that it doesn't make sense. It's that the execs would never allow it. Part of the reason DW's lasted so long is because it doesn't become too embroiled with continuity in the long run, and the one time it did, (6th Doctor era,) the show got canceled soonafter. So I don't think the writers would want to make a character that hasn't been seen in over 30 years a prominent plot element.
kkhohoho1 So like the Brigadier.
He was vaporized, does that mean he'd feel like nothing?
@@mr.barcode3186 how could adric be a cybermen when his body was destroyed
Having them revisit that moment in "the power of the doctor" still hurts. Classic who fans and who fans that have UA-camd this clip and then saw the return of Teagan and the fifth doctor talking about this briefly definitely feel this.
Yeah I was like that's enough
2:52 Matthew Waterhouse fearfully tapping the keys because he knows that it’s about the explode. Incredible acting good sir.
In his defence, if you listen to the DVD commentaries Waterhouse is pretty aware of the quality of his acting
hey is that sarcasm i detect Jack lol
Death in a Cyberman story, good timing Doctor Who ;)
I see what you did there XD.
You gotta wonder if there is hidden meaning here with what may transpire on Saturday.
jrice73 Well, TARDISArchives already knows ;)
Hey! It's you! I'm subbed to you :)
jrice73 Who nose, who nose.
It's hard to recapture the impact this had on the show and its viewers. Especially if you were a kid and expected the Doctor and his companions to always escape. After this no-one was safe and the jeopardy was terrifying!
A very poignant end to a caring character trying to solve a puzzle that he'd never finish. that left many speechless.
How to make any Doctor Who fan sad:
Simply say eight words: "Now I'll never know if I was right."
They simplified it since those days. You can do it in five now. 'I don't want to go.'
@@Xylarxcode I can do it in three. "Raggedy man, goodbye."
Two: No stars
I can also do it in 2,they make it really easy these days
"Rose Tyler..."
Aaaand I knew I shouldn't have looked at the comments
boy the 80s cybermen seemed to show, well, emotions. :L
I think the favourite fan explanation is that Cyber Leaders had limited emotional capability in order to make leadership decisions on instinct. Kind of like how the renegade Daleks used mindslaved school girls in their battle computer.
Cryer24597
Meh I prefer the Tenth Planet ones with the suspicious accents
Ian Warner yeah, my favorite part "Have you no heart" Cyberman-in its sing songy voice "That is a part we removed" XD
If you think THESE Cybermen showed emotions, wait till you see Revenge Of The Cybermen.
Robert Lythgoe
Again it was only the leader showing emotions which fits with the theory.
Janet Fielding teased him mercilessly on this. She called him "BOOM BOOM" Waterhouse and Matt' Finish!!
I love the sound the cyber leader makes when it dies, like the last of its humanity is screaming out in emotion (pain).
Proper Dr Who with real unexpected deaths and ripping edge of the seat episodes
"We must save Adric. There's so little time!"
You're. In. A. Time. Machine.
The impact that wipes out the dinosaurs is pretty much the daddy of "fixed points in time".
@@themaestrosfolly The impact, yes. Adric's death, no.
Yeah but that TARDIS wasn't accurate.
Damaged console from the randomly firing cyberman.
@@joolsfreeman4359 Right. So you spend a few hours fixing it, then travel back _through time and space_ and grab him. Yes?
I really love this Cyberman design... I prefer the look of a man inside a metal suit than a robot... And I would prefer for the Cybermen to carry guns.
I actually love the new Cyberman design. It looks brutal, efficient and cool. And having shooty things attached right to the armor just makes sense and adds to the efficiency. But I agree, it is a flaw that they now just look like robots and that you won't recognise that there is a human being under all that metal.
It was my pleasure to meet Matthew Waterhouse at a convention in Toronto years ago. I thanked him for that heroic death scene, it left a real impression on me.
Adric, the Westly Crusher of Doctor Who.
Pretty much, yeah.
But hey, at least Adric got a cool death. Wesley just kind of kept going to spite all of us.
Hypothetical exchange between the Fifth Doctor and a fan at a convention.
Fan: But you-- you killed Adric!
Fifth Doctor actor/Peter Davison: (nonchalantly) And so????
Fan: (Thumbs up) Good going, man!
Fifth Doctor: That scene still pays off dividends at fan-cons over 30 years later!
Patrick Stewart, at the same con: Dammit! I always wanted to arrange for Wesley to go, too! Maybe a good transporter accident or the computer 'accidentally' opening the shuttle bay and turning off the forcefield when he was the only one there!
Except that Adric actually did die.die.die
Are you old enough to remember usenet?
Adric came first. so technically it should be Westley, the Adric of Star Trek
I think that's more Clara Oswald today
The doctor says they've travelled back in time 65 million years. So why are the continents in the same place as today?
+Lucas Chamberlain because time is a great big ball of wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff. Also the metro crashed into Mexico not Korea.
***** There was only about 8 Cybermen costumes, the only scene where you see more is that episode 3 cliffhanger where they use a mirror effect to make it look like there are 3 groups when it's just one group
Lord Slarr When they did that they not of put the Cyberleader costume in front because then it looks like there are 4 of them when there is just 1.
8 Cybermen is a lot. In Revenge of the Cybermen, they only had 3. Same with the Daleks in Day of the Daleks.
Jero Briggs They actually had 4 3 silver ones and the black headed Cyberleader
Such a memorable scene! Poor Adric, I had liked him when watching the Tom Baker Doctor Who stories on the Horror Channel, and it was a real shame to lose him.
to all those of you who complain about bad acting or bad special effects: WHO CARES? This is one of the best stories of the classics, certainly the best of the Davison years. Not to mention it was the first appearance of the Cybermen in seven years. Give them a break, it was the eighties and the budget wasn't brilliant to work with, but imo it's still a whole lot better than some of the stories today. heck, anything is better than love and monsters.
Both OldWho and NewWho have had awful stories and episodes. Brain of Morbius comes to mind in OldWho, as does Kill The Moon in NewWho. We still get 5+ decades of episodes to choose from to watch and watch again [minus the desolate years], which is more than any other franchise, any other character, any other hero offers us, anywhere. We shoud be overjoyed at that, rather than picking out one of the worst stories in NewWho to compare to this video's storyline.
Mary Ann Bittle I though Brain of Morbius was a good adaptation of Frankenstein tbh
IMO, it would have been fine, had it stuck to canon. Instead, it tries to tell us there were other iterations of the Doctor before Hartnell's, and that just doesn't make any sense at all the way the entire Whoniverse was constructed throughout the rest of the years, before or after that. It destroyed all of that. You have to ignore most of that whole episode if you want to believe in the entire rest of the stories. That's the one thing that runs through the entire story of the Doctor, that it's nearly always consistent with canon. When a writer ignores that canon, like with Brain of Morbius, I have a hard time forgiving them.
Mary Ann Bittle Wait, I always thought they were Morbius' past regenerations. Hmm, maybe I need to watch it again.
Only some of them were supposed to be Morbius', others were supposed to be the Doctor's.
Adric‘s badge came in handy when the Doctor used it with some gold behind it because gold is the Cybermen‘s weakness,the kind of metal that plugs up their chest units and makes them suffocate.
Not the first time, and not the last time, the Doctor lost a companion under his watch...
+Andrewnuva199
Especially for the 8th Doctor :'( He suffered the most out of them all. And He barely had any time to shine in the TV.
It's just sad how brilliant all those stories where and how brave they were.
Doctor who was quite violent back then, shooting Cybermen, you'd never get away with that today on tv.
It is sad. You can have such scary villains like the Weeping Angels and the Silence, but not have the level of violence that they had in the original show. The Ark in Space, The Brain of Morbius, The Seeds of Doom, Remembrance of the Daleks, Earthshock, Attack of the Cybermen, The Curse of Fenric, Terror of the Autons, Spearhead from Space, Inferno. They all had a great deal of violence in them.
That's 'cause of the Time War. The Doctor learned the hard way that violence isn't the answer.
and we loved it,too!
+Jero Briggs resurrection of the daleks as well
If you think this is violent, you should see Colin Baker's first season. Pretty much every story was filled with green alien blood (with a bit of human blood thrown in just for the heck of it)!
I actually kinda liked adric he was useful and cute
Yeah
Nah he died a hero but did feel the sadness of a death of a companion
Finding out the actor Mathew Waterhouse is gay before streaming the series he stared in I was in love with the idea. Remember I had read about his writing the book about staring on the show and had comments on Tom's drinking. That had turned fans against him WHO loved Tom.. Truth at that time he was having an affair Tom that is with his female costar then she left the show. So he most likely was bored and drank a bit. But I think afterwards years down the road he realized what a lifetime part he had and embraced the fans WHO loved the show and him at those conventions. He was at peace and I feel fans should forgive Mathew for his book. Lord a 21 year old gay boy in a role of a lifetime.... WHO could imagine....
@@danielueblacker9118 what does him being gay have to do with the role?
@@caffeinatedcoffer I din't get it too. Someone Explain it.
I cried here more then when clara died
Sorry if you like clara but... I miss you so much Adric!
Clara died tonns of times.
I meant the first time
Moonlight Dragon when she fell?
I loved Clara, but her death was stupid.
TRANCE DANCE GEMINI no it wasn't it was perfect...then Hellbent happened....clara isn't Jesus. she shouldn't be the most important person in the universe.
the impossible girl made all companion deaths worthless. mean nothing
her death shoewed that she was getting cocky. she was trying too much to be like the doctor and she died because of that.
poetry in motion
Adric was an amazing companion to the Fouth Doctor & the Third Doctor RIP Adric
Sorry I was meant to say fourth & Fifth lol.
Speaking of the 4th Doctor, I wonder how he felt about Adric's death
1:50 I don’t know why but I get a sense of Adrenaline when the Doctor is suffocating the Cyberleader with Adric’s gold Star.
I love a Cyberman death - 'ARRRRRRGGGGHHHHHHHH!'
It’s
Garrrrrruuaaaahhh
I remember crying when Adric died, it was the first time Id experienced death of a a character I liked, I think I was about six. I also remember my Dad being pleased the Cybermen were back.
3:33 his face makes me want to cry
at least his last words weren't "Run, you clever boy, and remember."
Metal_Dog At least Clara saved the 5th doctor more than adric 🤫
+Hell of A bird yeah by being Mary Sue they have that power.
Shayla Nash she is perfect ,too good
I tried liking Clara, I really tried. But unlike Amy and Bill, Clara just made the show staid and boring to watch. I found Series 9's episodes were best whenever it was "Clara-lite"
G_Man You can like whoever you want like that’s good but there’s no denying Clara has done the most for the doctor , and also the doctor cares the most for Clara than any companion
This is why Adric is my favourite 5th Doctor Companion. His sacrifice was really moving.
Cutting out one of Nyssa and Tegan’s best hugs... unforgivable. They have the best hugs.
I think everyone saw Adric as a little annoying sometimes, but he's still one of my favourite Doctor companions. His death scene still makes me feel sad to this day. Matthew Waterhouse did a great job portraying him, especially in his final episode.
I remember watching this when I was 9 years old & the final credits played in total silence. Apart from me crying my eyes out, that is. 47 now....still haven't recovered...x
I was so young but of all the Dr Whos I watch in my childhood Adric's death was one of the most memorable scenes, I recall it now decades later
And Tegan, as ever, has the same "wait what?" look on her face that she always does.
So, who else came back to this after seeing Tegan come back for the new episode?
That moment was fantastic
Hmm. Cybermen at the dawn of time, a companion dying... what are you hinting at? ;)
what
Back when I was a highly emotional preteen, I would watch things that saddened me over and over until I "got over it," so to speak. As he was my first Doctor, I tried this out first with Ten's regeneration and stopped feeling sad about it after about 4 or 5 times of rewatching the episode with his regeneration. I didn't get into Classic Who until after my more emotional phase ended, but watching this for the first time absolutely shocked me (I did my best to avoid spoilers for anything related to Classic Who.) I've watched this scene and Earthshock over and over and over again, but it always leaves an impact on me no matter how many times I sit through it. I love how Classic Who perfectly nails the right amount of emotion to be effective without going overboard. Although it has (quite understandably) less than impressive special effects and goofy lines at times, Classic Who is actually pretty ingenious.
[Please note that this is my personal opinion, and I am in no way bashing on NuWho or Steven Moffat. I actually enjoy the new series to an extent, but I prefer Classic. :)]
This was one of the first Doctor Who stories I ever watched as a child. The caves with the androids, the Cybermen bursting out of the silos and the screaming of the Cyber-Leader dying was a lot for me as a kid. Genuinely gave me nightmares.
As an adult the scariest part is now how some fans talk about it. Taking such glee in a character's death just because they didn't like that character... It's quite disturbing.
These are my favorite cybermen they are actual cybermen
Am I the only one who actually liked adric
No, I liked him as well. The only time I found him bad was in Four to Doomsday, where he was poorly written and made to look like an idiot. But in this story and many others I found him to be quite likeable.
Retro Dude I even liked him in that story, he comes round in the end. The doctor sums it up with "you're not naive, just idealistic."
ultra dragon ball fan al 12226 Nope, I love him so much.
Yes lol
ultra dragon ball fan al 12226 I do!
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I will never forget how shocked that I was when Adric died.
The lesbian couple barely able to conceal their smirks as the gay boy got killed off LOL
I remember watching that scene, back in the day. Of course, it was a few years later, on PBS, because I'm in the US. But, I remember being, absolutely, dumbstruck. I think, I actually, teared up, a little. It was the saddest, most unexpected thing that I ever expected to see on Doctor Who. It was made even more tragic, by the closing being just Adric's broken badge, with no theme music.
What breaks my heart the most is the face he makes before his death. He died alone and in fear.
Candlelight vigil for all the companions lost over the years. 🕯
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In the classic series K was an unlucky letter if you were a companion. The other three that died were Katerina, Sara Kingdom, and Kamelion. I reckon with Adric they just pretended there was a silent (and invisible) K at the start of his name. Bye bye Kadric!
Or Adrick
Well...this gives more context to the Power of the Doctor, especially for those who never saw classic
funny how excited Doctor is when he said there will be a tremendous explosion
"Sunshine and lollipops and rainbows and everything..."
Adric is independent and uncooperative- he's a terrible character.
Donna is independent and uncooperative- BEST COMPANION EVER
#whovianlogic
The difference is Catherine Tate was a good actor and Adric was independent and uncoorapative for all the wrong reasons. What good comes out of siding with the villain in pretty much every story?
Robert Lythgoe
Hahaha. Constant ranting is not good acting.
Frank Cabanski Oh, come on. If you're going to try and claim the majority of Donna's scenes in S4 were constant ranting, you clearly don't remember that series much.
+Robert Lythgoe
Adric is much better actor that Samuel Anderson.
That's because New Who is not memorable. It's over dramatic, every moment a crescendo. When everything is so dramatic, nothing is memorable.
"I AM THE DOCTOR! NOBODY WILL DIE TODAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Spine tingling in how Adric stares at the monitor accepting his (almost imminent) death
Still one of the saddest deaths in classic who
3:58 They had Silence in the show that far back. I didn't remember
THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST SADDEST EPISODE ON DOCTOR WHO.
Adric: The first Companion who died under the Doctor's Watch
I love the looks of the old cibermen
Just came back from watching this Ep last night.
most depressing death in all Doctor Who history.
In the episoad before he could have just given the Cordinates to the doctor and gone back to E space. but he stayed and died.
and the end with his broken star and dead silent background will forever haunt me.
RIP Adric
the best companion
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In the next episode, the doctor says "we wouldn't want to mourn him UNNECESSARILY."
Yes, he also says: "you know, Adric had a choice- this is the way he wanted it." 🤣 He wanted to die??!!
@@stephenmcconnell1000 That doesn't sound like something The Doctor would say
@johannahyde-parker8422 well he said it
I love how they didn't do the theme tune a then end
To show the emotional side
And people say Six being violent in Attack of the Cybermen was bad.
All he did was shoot the Cyber Leader.
Five scrapes Adric's badge into his chest unit then shoots him repeatedly with his own gun!
Six did kill Shockeye with cyanide. Though five did plan on assassinating Davros in "Resurrection Of The Daleks". Both were incredibly violent at times.
Four vaporized the Sontaran in Invasion of Time
Four also didnt want to kill the Daleks at first in Genesis but changed his mind later although a single Dalek did it for him by mistake
@@MrJacMac1968 i feel like most people have only watched the 'have i the right' scene and not the whole episode, because as you say he just goes back to commit genocide afterwards anyway.
@@stewartmair3995 The Doctor didn't really commit genocide as such, he only wiped out the machinery to make potential Daleks and left the completed ones alive.
When this episode came out, the Chicxulub meteor was known (although only recently) as the cause of the Cretaceous-Paleogene extinction event, but the view of the earth looks more like modern day southeast Asia.
Of course, that detail doesn't detract from a really good DW episode, and Adric's best.
This is one of the most powerful scenes of a companion's death
Next episode: Yes, well, no point dwelling on it.
"Special treat to cheer us all up" 😂
Honestly Adric was one of my most favourite companions he puts the male companions now to shame
"And there was much rejoicing."
I'm a NuWhovian and haven't seen many of the classic episodes, but Adric has always been my favorite of the old companions. And let me just say that this made me cry. Oh Adric, you clever thing.
+Anna Wells same with me here, I' ve just seen a few episodes of "classic" doctor who, but adric is my favourite companion, I don't understand why almost everyone seems to hate him, he was so so smart
+Little Lou : He was the Wesley Crusher of "Doctor Who".
+Stephanie Crane I know nothing about star trek but i suppose your're right
Anna Wells agree with you. Loved the actor and the character. What if Captain Jack could meet Adric now, what a couple.... Torchwood new much needed but with the old writers.
This scene sent a chill up my spine when I saw it on the livestream. Truly a powerful moment in doctor who’s history.
Adric was my favorite companion in the the old series.
Since I have been looking at episodes of Patrick Troughton playing "The 2nd Doctor" I now see just how much Peter Davison incorporated Troughton's facial expressions and manner of speaking into his turn as "The 5th Doctor"...
*RIGHT HERE:* 0:39 Watch his eyes and listen to the way he says words...
I always had this theory that adrics death was a fixed point in time similar to Amy and Rory’s death in the angles take Manhattan which is why the doctor could never go back because the freighter had to crash in order to kill the dinosaurs.
In the following story Tegan and Nyssa ask the Doctor to go back in time and save Adric (as Nyssa points out, the TARDIS is surely capable of it). He replies that even he can;t break some rules (this one being the First Law of Time, enforced by the Time Lords - they cannot interfere in their own time-line), that adrics death must be accepted, and never ask him to to do anything like that again.
Fifth Doctor shooting a Cyberman in the chest to defend himself: No outrage.
Six fighting back against two people trying to push him in a pool of acid, which ends in them dying in the pool: THIS IS MURDER!! THE DOCTOR JUST COMMITTED MURDER!!!
C'mon guys, he wasn't THAT bad
the doctor actually could have saved adric because he didn't know for a fact that adric died. he only saw the ship explode. it's possible that as the doctor was watching the ship crash, just before the ship exploded the doctor himself was in the ship saving adric. similar to how he was able to save the people in the fires of pompeii because he didn't know for a fact that those individuals ever died in the volcano. he just knew that the volcano erupted and couldn't stop that from happening because it's a known event.
If people don't like Adric then blame the writers and director for it. The actor does not write nor change things unless the afore mentioned let it.....
Thank you, Adric!
Still my favorite design of the Cybermen by far (glass jaw and all), and David Banks was awesome as the Cyberleader.