Jose Fernandez' death really challenged my love of baseball tbh, but then I remember watching their first game back and that clip of Dee Gordon hitting a home run still gives me goosebumps. Possibly the biggest "What if" in baseball history.
I'm a Braves fan, and I was at church and checked to see what time the game against the Marlins was later in the day. I was shocked when I saw that the game was canceled. You can't imagine my surprise when I saw the news of Fernandez's death, then my anger when we found out the entire story. I still feel like it was such a waste AND one of the biggest what-ifs of baseball history.
It’s Jose’s fault. Cocaine was found in his body while he was driving the boat and he’s the one who overturned the boat. If he survived, he would’ve been charged with vehicular manslaughter. His death was tragic and unnecessary, but he wasn’t as innocent as people think.
I got to watch the Skagg's memorial game combined no-no live... Man... That was a huge tear jerker... One of the most memorable moments in baseball for me.
Sometimes, I wonder what happens to the MLB if Jose and Ventura were still around, especially with how the league has become more friendly towards their personalities.
@@metallica708 Ventura wasn’t drunk, the Royals just had a stipulation in his contract allowing the results of the toxicology report to not become public. Even if he was, Ventura would likely be out by now since it’s been six years.
When I was 11, 2011, I saw Oscar Tavares play in Springfield. We got there late and I was having a rough day honestly, but when the game ended I caught him signing some autographs in the corner for staff and he was super kind, made my night, and even waited for me to find the card I had of him to sign. Was one hell of a player too, definitely would’ve been an all-star for years. RIP to a great man and his girlfriend Edilia🙏
I was lucky enough to see his debut after the September roster expansion in 2013 vs Cleveland. He earned a standing ovation upon his exit. Devastating loss.
Still feels like the cardinals are tying to come out of that losing the guy who would have by what we all saw early be a lock as one of our core players
Nobody talks about how much gerrit cole was absolutely the reason the Yankees barely survived the guardians in last ALDS. It was so devastating getting carved alive twice
@@joemarshall4226 wtf are you talking about? I said it was devastating, being a guardians fan and getting destroyed by cole twice. The original video talked about how he had a very bad postseason reputation because of his Yankees postseason failures
@@pohorex6834 The name of the video is "MLBs Tragic 10" They name a couple of guys who died too young, then they name Cole....Why is he TRAGIC? that's what I want to know.
@@joemarshall4226 don’t ask me, I didn’t make the fucking video. Instead of using the traction another comment got to get impressions, make your own comment since your is irrelevant to mine
I miss José so much man, we played as teammates and as opponents in travel ball and high school, the dude was so incredible and a really good dude. I even practiced a little bit with him and his pitching coach it just hurts to this day seeing some of those humble beginnings and watching them bear fruit to just have it be gone in a blink of an eye.
@@Gemnist98 I appreciate it. And I don’t want to pretend like we were best friends at the hip but we did play on the same travel ball team the Tampa Warriors for a time (Oscar Mercado was also on that team). And he WAXED my high school when we played for our schools. He no-hit us one time. All of us who knew him especially us Latinos were so happy to see him achieving real success at the pro level. When he passed it was a gut punch and a reality check.
RIP Tyler Skaggs, Yordano Ventura, Jose Fernandez, Oscar Tevaras. Sadly, this is just the most recent names on the list of active MLB players that have died. Since the year 2000 there's been 13 players, the 4 named above, as well as: - Greg Halman 24 year old outfielder Mariners 2011 - Nick Adenhart 22 year old pitcher Angels 2009 - Josh Hancock 29 year old pitcher Cardinals 2007 - Joe Kennedy 28 year old pitcher Blue Jays 2007 - Cory Lidle 34 year old pitcher Yankees 2006 - Steve Bechler 23 year old pitcher Orioles 2003 - Dernell Stenson 25 year old outfielder Reds 2003 - Mike Darr 25 year old outfielder Padres 2002 - Darryl Kile 34 year old pitcher Cardinals 2002 The decades of the 1970's and 80's also had a combined 13 deaths. But other than that, you gotta go back to like the turn of the century, when there was multiple players dying every year from things typhoid fever and tuberculosis, to find comparable numbers of active players dying in a similar timeframe. And unlike the previous instances, all but 2 of the guys from the recent group were under 30 years old, and more than half were 25 years old or younger. In such a short period of time so much young talent gone, and often for reasons that were completely preventable. It's tragic. It's been a few years since an active player died, hopefully that keeps up for a long time to come. RIP to all the guys i mentioned or even alluded to.
To the point of combined deaths in those eras, keep in mind team rosters are larger than they used to be, there's more use of platoon guys and roster management, and there were 24 teams in 1970 and 26 in 1989. From 1970-1989 about 2700 MLB players debuted (per baseball reference), while the time from 2000 to 2023 was around 5000 players debuting, nearly doubling that amount. There's just more guys for it all to happen to. Also keep in mind for the 70s and 80s...a lot of guys were doing a lot of hard drugs. Drug usage is still common, but they absolutely characterized the early-to-mid 80s in baseball.
Jose Fernandez made a huge impact on me. It came at a time in my life when I was questioning my own baseball future. Seeing this kid who for a handful of years before was my favorite personality and talent to watch (even as a dodger fan), to watch him pass. I just remember crying on my couch, tears streaming and I couldn’t understand why I was so upset. It felt like seeing your favorite artist die, never to make another painting again. Leaving us to reminisce the beauty of their life and effort in the game we used to play. Long Live Jose.
Could you imagine the Marlins with an offense headlined by Yelich, Stanton, Ozuna and Realmuto and a rotation headlined by Fernandez and Alcantara? That’s potentially an all-time great dynasty right there.
@@AlejandroPerez-lq9de Acceptable loss though, since Ozuna is a piece of shit. Besides, Alcantara’s presence in this hypothetical would give the Marlins a massive one-two combo in their rotation, and that’s a significantly bigger benefit than one outfielder can bring.
@@ryanmorrison3699 if Jose was still alive, the Marlins probably would've been in WC contention, so I doubt they would've sold their key pieces. So as fun as it would be, a Jose and Sandy 1-2 punch probably never happens
Great video, I hadn't followed baseball in the last decade and didn't even realize a couple of these guys had died. Baseball is filled with so many what-if stories.
The players ive always wanted to see pitch again were Jose Fernandez and Yordano Ventura.. i watch the world series vs the mets so many times just to watch him dominate and reflect on what he could've been...
As with so many of us, an injury can derail a life. Hurt my back in the military, was prescribed fentanyl, and I went into a downward spiral for years. Luckily I was able to come out the other side healthy
Hope you're still doing well and wish you continued success in your recovery in the future. Been clean from that garbage for 6+ years myself. I started on a prescription for dilaudid after work accident, turned into 5 years of snorting heroin and fentanyl. Stay strong, stay positive, best wishes to ya.
Royals fan here, Ventura's death is said to be the most tragic moment in Royals history. And many fans myself included say we never got to see Ventura's true potential.
absolutely not! he was about to knock down the door to that potential. the fire he played with and oh man too see him at a mature level would have been something else
Ventura was a hotheaded thug who made the 2015 Royals the most hated small-market team in MLB history. The current Royals with Witt, Ragans and Lugo is far more likeable.
Making these vids now is kinda crazy because these are guys that were prospects when I was a fully conscious and super devoted baseball fan. Talking about players whose entire careers I've watched is kinda terrifying lol
Jose Fernandez’s death really rocked my world. I was 11, and we were looking to be on the upswing. Then on that Sunday morning he passed away. I was at his last start, on 9/20/16. It was against Washington. He threw 8 shutout innings, picking up the win. Little did I know it would be his last career start. RIP JOSE, WE MISS YOU BUDDY. #RIP16
Damn good video. That Jose Fernandez death was horrific. I'm a Braves fan and that hurt because as a competitor he was fun to watch and was a hell of a pitcher. That dude was on another level.
As someone who had an opioid addiction in the early 2000’s, I can tell you that getting off the pills wasn’t the hardest part. In the 17 years that I’ve been clean, my biggest issue was getting surgery on my lowest lumbar discs (lower back) and not being able to take any pain meds during recovery. The same thing when I had dental surgery. Throbbing pain and nothing harder than Tramadol to take for it.
Jose Fernandez's death crushed me, like really crushed. He reminded me of myself if I could've played professionally. Loved that kid. Now we're left to wonder what could've been. And don't get me started on Tyler Skaggs... 😭😭😭
Great video very informative well done! When you said "on a much lighter note" for Travis D'Arnaud but, that clips "higher note" was short-lived when you got to "the trade," then cut to a shot of Roy Halladay at his press conference and then realized Doc passed away too...and then you mentuoned Pedro Felicianos passing! 😥
i first got into baseball watching Jose Fernandez, i bought his jersey, i told people he was gonna be the best pitcher in the league, and i wasn’t even a Miami fan, he was just so electric and talented… i stopped watching baseball for a bit after he passed. but he truly made an impact in a short time.
Fernandez was AMAZING. His slurve was so nasty and eveytime he pitched I would watch on MLB extra innings or on the MLB app. I was always in amazment watching him pitch, and tried to mimic his delivery in my baseball games.
Guys would literally turn away thinking they were gonna get hit, only for it to drop right into the zone. It was one of the nastiest pitches I’ve ever seen
Crazy how this was only 10 years ago, feels like less. I like the Mount & Blade Warband music in the background in the beginning of the video, brings back nostalgia.
Letting Zach Wheeler go was a Wilponzi move by Papa Fred and Son Jeffyboy to stick it to the Mets fans as usual. They tried giving him a hometown discount thinking he would accept it and ended up going to Philadelphia.
I think it was a tough call. $120 mil was A LOT for Wheeler at that point. I can't blame the Mets for passing, and I get why the Phils took the chance. He's still kind of a frustrating pitcher. Dude has elite stuff, but rarely pitches like an elite pitcher. He's a more than solid #2, so that's good. But he'll always have a "what could have been" vibe about him. He spells his name Zack, by the way ... not Zach. As a Mets fan, I wish him well. Except when facing the Mets.
Oscar Taveras' death set the Cardinals back a few years in terms of talent. He was likely going to be the next Pujols in terms of hype and all. It's a shame that one reckless decision, for each of Skaggs, Fernandez, Taveras and Ventura, cost each of them their lives (though out of the 4, Ventura's may have only been weather related. Evidently, a toxicology report occurred, but the results were never disclosed to the public.)
It’s very possible that, had the cardinals not traded for Heyward to fill the RF spot, the Yankees would’ve given up some combo of Judge, Severino, and Sanchez for Heyward.
As a Marlins fan I miss Jose so much. His death changed the entire franchise. I remember in 2016 a game he pitched i asked for his autograph but he told me outside and i knew where the marlins came out after the game, jose came out saw me and then the rest of the fans came over signed for everyone in the line and then went on his way. Absolute gem of a human. Miss him so much.
I still think about Jose a lot. He was going to be one of the best to ever do it. Multiple 300k seasons, multiple Cy Young's and the most exciting pitcher in baseball given he stayed healthy. It's heartwrenching to think about what could have been and it always will be
I was completely stunned and saddened when we all lost the bright spot that was Jose Fernandez. Mannnn he was electric to watch on that field, but also fun to watch him on the bench too. Always looked like he was having fun out there. He fought for everything he's gotten in his life. His freedom from Cuba, his spot on an MLB roster and his undeniable character. RIP Jose Fernandez
I’ve always said that any baseball channel that uses Donkey Kong Country music in the background would become my favorite baseball channel. I guess this is my favorite baseball channel now.
As a cards fan Oscar Tavarez till this day gets me. So sad in Dominican they don’t even have sides on their roads. He was so bright and saw such promise
Seeing how things panned out for Wil Myers will always sting. Not saying the guy was going to be All-MLB caliber at 1st, but the Hosmer signing doomed him and the Padres. He always did what was always asked of him in San Diego even if his bat was streaky at best. Hopefully he can get it together in Cincy
The messed up thing about Fernandez’ death from a baseball perspective is that the Marlins probably could’ve become really good if he were still around. An outfield of Yelich, Stanton, and Ozuna with a battery of Fernandez and Realmuto is a crazy core.
Travis has become something of a fan favorite lovable guy here in ATL. I went to Game 3 and watched him launch that WS homer in the bottom of the 8th to set the game to its eventual final of 2-0. Yeah, he's a bona-fide Brave forever now.
Cole will stroll into the HOF. I have no doubt. He still has 6 years of play left just on this contract and this is his age 32 season. Based off what we've seen from the elite power pitchers of his talent level in recent years, I would expect 3-4/6 of these years to still be prime or near prime level. That means 250 Ks annually, at most a 3.30ish ERA (though I expect several sub 3 years if the HR luck can stabilize some and he can get a real SS behind him), and 200+ IP. He already is right around 2000 Ks. He should pretty confidently get to 3000 Ks and playing for the Yankees plus pitching deep into games, he can probably average around 15 wins per year for next 3-4 years and then 8-10, putting him in a reasonable spot to get 200 career wins. Those type of stats make his HOF chances a pretty strong lock.
What a different Marlin's we could've had if Jose hadn't left us. All these boys in their prime in a franchise ready for the big time, Jose Fernandez, Christian Yelich, Dee Gordon, Giancarlo Stanton, JT Realmuto, Marcell Ozuna, and just to top it off Ichiro leading them with ultimate wisdom.
Fernandez’s death still hurts. I’m a Cubs fan, but I have to wonder what would have been different in the last 7 years had Jose not died. The Marlins may have kept their core together and found success. Jose might’ve won a CY or 2. It’s just tragic
As a Padres fan, he may have not been the greatest but I still love Wil Myers, to me he’s my favorite Padre that I’ve seen play in person and I’ll definitely miss him
Your Padres have a knack for finding so-called disappointments, and are able to create killers...Myers, Machado and MLB's most undervalued killer, Trent Grisham.
This is one aspect I wish was touched on a little more in his breakdown with the Padres, at least as his tenure was coming to an end. He became beloved in SD for how he interacted with the fans and community in a time where we had guys with zero hype, or guys like Hosmer who didn't even try. And by the time we got all of the big names last season, everyone I knew saw him as a guy they wanted to win it all for-someone who tried his heart and soul out, 100% of the time, every time he stepped on the field for us. Knowing he would most likely be gone after last season was hard, and it still hurt more than I expected when the news he signed with the Reds actually was announced. Love him, hope he does well, hope he comes back as unrealistic as it is. EDIT: I also want to say I love Profar too for his last three seasons in SD and hope he finds a spot on our roster this season if signed nowhere else.
please blow this channel up, it's literally such good content and super nice to see more unique topics discussed on it, deserves major love from every baseball fan tbh. keep up the good work please!
The part that bothers me is the one with Tyler Skaggs, addicts are not treated that way ever, especially if they overdose and die, I wish more people treated addicts like humans but they just don’t, and because he was a successful baseball player it seemed like more people cared, I just want that same kind of love and compassion for the people struggling at home that have no help, or have no one behind them to push them thru, or the resources that a mlb player would get..
It’s really sickening to read some of the comments saying that Skaggs did it to himself or his choices had consequences. Drug addicts should have systemic support and humane treatment, they shouldn’t be treated as moral failures. I think a lot of people are finally getting that now, but there’s still a long way to go.
@@AndThatsBaseball I agree 100% with you, it is sickening to see how many people feel that way towards addicts, but I will say it was nice to see the support the angels showed after the tragedy.. didn’t expect to get a like much less a response but I’m happy to read what you posted forsure..
Just so you know, I subbed after you asked. It's not that I wouldn't have wanted to otherwise, it just wouldn't have occurred to me. So it does help to ask because not everyone clicks on a video to see if they wanna subscribe to someone.
I watched every game Fernandez pitched for the Marlins and there is zero doubt in my mind that he would be the single most dominant pitcher since Randy Johnson if he were alive and well today. I often find "electric" to be a tremendously overused word, but it's precisely what I'd use to describe Jose Fernandez. When he had the ball, you knew you were witnessing someone special and there was absolutely no doubt about it. I don't think I'll ever see a more exciting or tragic case of "come whatever may" again in my lifetime.
16:01 him collapsing after getting hit is always gonna be one of the funniest things ever to me. hilarious that he just watched that floater from a position player come in and hit him then CRUMPLED. baseball is the best sometimes.
The Jose Fernandez situation reminds me of the Lyman Bostock one back in the late 70s. Look him up if aren't familiar. Rookie-of-the-Year Cub Ken Hubbs from the early 60s as well.
One thing about Ventura was that he was a great player surrounded by good players. I always wonder how we would’ve ended up if we still had him. Even in our 2014/2015 run the Royals didn’t have any top of the line talent, they just had 9 extremely solid players who kept the line moving. No holes in that lineup but no player was a #1 at their position and Ventura had some potential to be a top 10 pitcher with his crazy arm talent. So unfortunate to see him go not only as a player but as a person
Wheelers Mets saga drove me nuts. If only he had a season in 2015 like he had in 2014, the Mets might've won the World Series And if only Cohen owned the Mets when he left for free agency. Cant imagine he would've let him walk especially to a division rivals. Sucks to see him be successful with the Phillies.
1) Cole got his CY. 2) rest in paradise to the 3 who could have changed baseball for years and years. 3) get clean. No hate, no malice, but save yourselves. We’re tired of losing people, 5 years clean and I have never been happier
Jose Fernandez' death still really hurts me, what a huge loss for baseball.
Crazy to think how different MLB would’ve played out over the last 7 years
@@AndThatsBaseballI play a lot of ootp, and the league with Jose is so different it's like night and day
he was a druggie who took several other lives along wit his own. no sympathy here
@@mam362Nasty loser
@@JackDeSilver don’t do drugs not that hard
Jose Fernandez' death really challenged my love of baseball tbh, but then I remember watching their first game back and that clip of Dee Gordon hitting a home run still gives me goosebumps. Possibly the biggest "What if" in baseball history.
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I'm a Braves fan, and I was at church and checked to see what time the game against the Marlins was later in the day. I was shocked when I saw that the game was canceled. You can't imagine my surprise when I saw the news of Fernandez's death, then my anger when we found out the entire story. I still feel like it was such a waste AND one of the biggest what-ifs of baseball history.
Stop glorifying that drunk driving cokehead
@@matthewjones12181 and thats right after Dee was suspended. i love that moment almost more than anything and not even a marlins fan
It’s Jose’s fault. Cocaine was found in his body while he was driving the boat and he’s the one who overturned the boat. If he survived, he would’ve been charged with vehicular manslaughter. His death was tragic and unnecessary, but he wasn’t as innocent as people think.
I got to watch the Skagg's memorial game combined no-no live... Man... That was a huge tear jerker... One of the most memorable moments in baseball for me.
Man, I still can’t watch that Dee Gordon homer without getting choked up. Just absolute cinema and what everyone needed after such a horrible tragedy.
Makes two of us, man...
It's was also clearly scripted...
Colon groved him a 2 seem for sure but still had to hit it
Corked bat maybe 🤔 either way classy move by the big giy
Sometimes, I wonder what happens to the MLB if Jose and Ventura were still around, especially with how the league has become more friendly towards their personalities.
They'd be in prison
@@metallica708 The hell did Ventura do?
@@Gemnist98 Drive drunk.
@@metallica708 Ventura wasn’t drunk, the Royals just had a stipulation in his contract allowing the results of the toxicology report to not become public. Even if he was, Ventura would likely be out by now since it’s been six years.
Shoulda stayed off the blow
When I was 11, 2011, I saw Oscar Tavares play in Springfield. We got there late and I was having a rough day honestly, but when the game ended I caught him signing some autographs in the corner for staff and he was super kind, made my night, and even waited for me to find the card I had of him to sign. Was one hell of a player too, definitely would’ve been an all-star for years. RIP to a great man and his girlfriend Edilia🙏
RIP VENTURA. Kansas city misses and loves you. I especially do. You were the man and I loved the fire in your arm and in your heart.
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I was lucky enough to see his debut after the September roster expansion in 2013 vs Cleveland. He earned a standing ovation upon his exit. Devastating loss.
I absolutely could not stand that guy but found myself incredibly sad when he passed. Dude clearly loved baseball.
one of the few that actually had the stuff to back up his talk. miss him
Broke my heart 💔….. Fly high Yordano Descansa en Paz 💙🕊️⚾️🇩🇴
The Oscar Taveras death still hurts to this very day. We never got to see him live up to his true potential.
That was a tough one. I'm a Mets fan but that day we were all cardinal fans
@@jaylong4705 Oscar Taveras played for the Cardinals.
BAC 6x the legal limit. One less drunk driving idiot to worry about.
I still have an Autograph ball from him.
Still feels like the cardinals are tying to come out of that losing the guy who would have by what we all saw early be a lock as one of our core players
Nobody talks about how much gerrit cole was absolutely the reason the Yankees barely survived the guardians in last ALDS. It was so devastating getting carved alive twice
Why is Cole "tragic"? Sounds like he is having a fine career.
@@joemarshall4226 wtf are you talking about? I said it was devastating, being a guardians fan and getting destroyed by cole twice. The original video talked about how he had a very bad postseason reputation because of his Yankees postseason failures
@@pohorex6834 The name of the video is "MLBs Tragic 10" They name a couple of guys who died too young, then they name Cole....Why is he TRAGIC? that's what I want to know.
@@joemarshall4226 don’t ask me, I didn’t make the fucking video. Instead of using the traction another comment got to get impressions, make your own comment since your is irrelevant to mine
@@joemarshall4226 he’s not tragic. The entire ten as a group is tragic because four of them died in their prime or before it.
I miss José so much man, we played as teammates and as opponents in travel ball and high school, the dude was so incredible and a really good dude. I even practiced a little bit with him and his pitching coach it just hurts to this day seeing some of those humble beginnings and watching them bear fruit to just have it be gone in a blink of an eye.
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So sorry for your loss.
@@Gemnist98 I appreciate it. And I don’t want to pretend like we were best friends at the hip but we did play on the same travel ball team the Tampa Warriors for a time (Oscar Mercado was also on that team). And he WAXED my high school when we played for our schools. He no-hit us one time. All of us who knew him especially us Latinos were so happy to see him achieving real success at the pro level. When he passed it was a gut punch and a reality check.
Well your friend was a psychopath who killed two people and himself
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RIP Tyler Skaggs, Yordano Ventura, Jose Fernandez, Oscar Tevaras.
Sadly, this is just the most recent names on the list of active MLB players that have died. Since the year 2000 there's been 13 players, the 4 named above, as well as:
- Greg Halman 24 year old outfielder Mariners 2011
- Nick Adenhart 22 year old pitcher Angels 2009
- Josh Hancock 29 year old pitcher Cardinals 2007
- Joe Kennedy 28 year old pitcher Blue Jays 2007
- Cory Lidle 34 year old pitcher Yankees 2006
- Steve Bechler 23 year old pitcher Orioles 2003
- Dernell Stenson 25 year old outfielder Reds 2003
- Mike Darr 25 year old outfielder Padres 2002
- Darryl Kile 34 year old pitcher Cardinals 2002
The decades of the 1970's and 80's also had a combined 13 deaths. But other than that, you gotta go back to like the turn of the century, when there was multiple players dying every year from things typhoid fever and tuberculosis, to find comparable numbers of active players dying in a similar timeframe. And unlike the previous instances, all but 2 of the guys from the recent group were under 30 years old, and more than half were 25 years old or younger. In such a short period of time so much young talent gone, and often for reasons that were completely preventable. It's tragic. It's been a few years since an active player died, hopefully that keeps up for a long time to come.
RIP to all the guys i mentioned or even alluded to.
To the point of combined deaths in those eras, keep in mind team rosters are larger than they used to be, there's more use of platoon guys and roster management, and there were 24 teams in 1970 and 26 in 1989. From 1970-1989 about 2700 MLB players debuted (per baseball reference), while the time from 2000 to 2023 was around 5000 players debuting, nearly doubling that amount. There's just more guys for it all to happen to.
Also keep in mind for the 70s and 80s...a lot of guys were doing a lot of hard drugs. Drug usage is still common, but they absolutely characterized the early-to-mid 80s in baseball.
Their fault for drinking and driving or taking a bunch of drugs
@@metallica708 not all of them died from those 2 things bro
Jose Fernandez made a huge impact on me. It came at a time in my life when I was questioning my own baseball future. Seeing this kid who for a handful of years before was my favorite personality and talent to watch (even as a dodger fan), to watch him pass. I just remember crying on my couch, tears streaming and I couldn’t understand why I was so upset. It felt like seeing your favorite artist die, never to make another painting again. Leaving us to reminisce the beauty of their life and effort in the game we used to play. Long Live Jose.
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Shoulda stayed off the blow
Oscar Taveras always hits me hard. That kid was on the path to be something truly special.
Could you imagine the Marlins with an offense headlined by Yelich, Stanton, Ozuna and Realmuto and a rotation headlined by Fernandez and Alcantara? That’s potentially an all-time great dynasty right there.
Alcantara wouldn’t be there if Ozuna is there
@@AlejandroPerez-lq9de Good point.
@@AlejandroPerez-lq9de Acceptable loss though, since Ozuna is a piece of shit. Besides, Alcantara’s presence in this hypothetical would give the Marlins a massive one-two combo in their rotation, and that’s a significantly bigger benefit than one outfielder can bring.
@@ryanmorrison3699 if Jose was still alive, the Marlins probably would've been in WC contention, so I doubt they would've sold their key pieces. So as fun as it would be, a Jose and Sandy 1-2 punch probably never happens
Can you imagine if Germany won WWII?
Great video, I hadn't followed baseball in the last decade and didn't even realize a couple of these guys had died. Baseball is filled with so many what-if stories.
The players ive always wanted to see pitch again were Jose Fernandez and Yordano Ventura.. i watch the world series vs the mets so many times just to watch him dominate and reflect on what he could've been...
I'm not a marlins fan but man when Jose died it hit me. I loved him as a player.
Good on you for being honest about Fernandez, It is a Tragic what if...and how I wish he had made better choices...same with Skaggs...
As with so many of us, an injury can derail a life. Hurt my back in the military, was prescribed fentanyl, and I went into a downward spiral for years. Luckily I was able to come out the other side healthy
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I hope you are well and clean. You have my best.
Stay healthy bud and live pain free.
Hope you're still doing well and wish you continued success in your recovery in the future. Been clean from that garbage for 6+ years myself. I started on a prescription for dilaudid after work accident, turned into 5 years of snorting heroin and fentanyl. Stay strong, stay positive, best wishes to ya.
The MLB would be in such a different place with Taveras, Fernandez and Ventura. Man what it could’ve been
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, we'd all have a Merry Christmas.
Royals fan here, Ventura's death is said to be the most tragic moment in Royals history. And many fans myself included say we never got to see Ventura's true potential.
absolutely not! he was about to knock down the door to that potential. the fire he played with and oh man too see him at a mature level would have been something else
Ventura was a hotheaded thug who made the 2015 Royals the most hated small-market team in MLB history. The current Royals with Witt, Ragans and Lugo is far more likeable.
Beautiful closing statement and quality video!! RIP to all those involved in this list
Wow, it crept up on me that 2013 was 10 years ago! Where did the time go!?
Making these vids now is kinda crazy because these are guys that were prospects when I was a fully conscious and super devoted baseball fan. Talking about players whose entire careers I've watched is kinda terrifying lol
@@AndThatsBaseball it’s called getting old 😂. We are old haha.
Jose Fernandez’s death really rocked my world. I was 11, and we were looking to be on the upswing. Then on that Sunday morning he passed away. I was at his last start, on 9/20/16. It was against Washington. He threw 8 shutout innings, picking up the win. Little did I know it would be his last career start. RIP JOSE, WE MISS YOU BUDDY. #RIP16
Oh my god the mlb the show rookie of the year screen with myers and Fernandez just brought back too many memories.
Jose Fernandez passing hurt a lot for baseball fans but I was so happy to see Dee Gordon hit that homer against the Mets
Damn good video. That Jose Fernandez death was horrific. I'm a Braves fan and that hurt because as a competitor he was fun to watch and was a hell of a pitcher. That dude was on another level.
I don’t think I’ll ever forget where I was when I heard Jose Fernandez passed away
Man I was so sad that day.
I remember I did a double take when I saw the news. Total shock. I wonder where he would be today
Neither will the two guy's families he took with him...
@@kx454 Dude come on, they were all high. Had any of them been driving, the same thing would have probably happened.
@@Gemnist98 So? If I won the Powerball I'd be a millionaire. The point is, HE was driving. He killed two people, along with himself.
As someone who had an opioid addiction in the early 2000’s, I can tell you that getting off the pills wasn’t the hardest part. In the 17 years that I’ve been clean, my biggest issue was getting surgery on my lowest lumbar discs (lower back) and not being able to take any pain meds during recovery. The same thing when I had dental surgery. Throbbing pain and nothing harder than Tramadol to take for it.
Dee's homer after Fernandez passed will never not make me emotional.
When D Gordon hit that home run it gave me chills. It still does. How Incredible
Rip Oscar. Carlos Martinez was never the same after losing his buddy.
Jose Fernandez's death crushed me, like really crushed. He reminded me of myself if I could've played professionally. Loved that kid. Now we're left to wonder what could've been. And don't get me started on Tyler Skaggs... 😭😭😭
Great video very informative well done! When you said "on a much lighter note" for Travis D'Arnaud but, that clips "higher note" was short-lived when you got to "the trade," then cut to a shot of Roy Halladay at his press conference and then realized Doc passed away too...and then you mentuoned Pedro Felicianos passing! 😥
That part was done by No More Fielders, and wow, I didn’t even think about Doc. Devastating to realize how many of these guys are no longer with us.
seeing that schwarber hr gave me warm fuzzy feelings all over again. thank you
i first got into baseball watching Jose Fernandez, i bought his jersey, i told people he was gonna be the best pitcher in the league, and i wasn’t even a Miami fan, he was just so electric and talented… i stopped watching baseball for a bit after he passed. but he truly made an impact in a short time.
Jose Fernardez's Career was everyone's Starting Pitcher Career Arc from The Show.
Fernandez was AMAZING. His slurve was so nasty and eveytime he pitched I would watch on MLB extra innings or on the MLB app. I was always in amazment watching him pitch, and tried to mimic his delivery in my baseball games.
Guys would literally turn away thinking they were gonna get hit, only for it to drop right into the zone. It was one of the nastiest pitches I’ve ever seen
Crazy how this was only 10 years ago, feels like less.
I like the Mount & Blade Warband music in the background in the beginning of the video, brings back nostalgia.
Apologies on my analysis on Wil Myers -- I got caught up in the midness
11 year MLB vet is called mid by UA-camr
@@AndThatsBaseball 11-year MLB vet called mid by a nobody UA-camr*
@@AndThatsBaseball He'd have been out of baseball by now if not for that stupid extension.
Letting Zach Wheeler go was a Wilponzi move by Papa Fred and Son Jeffyboy to stick it to the Mets fans as usual. They tried giving him a hometown discount thinking he would accept it and ended up going to Philadelphia.
I think it was a tough call. $120 mil was A LOT for Wheeler at that point. I can't blame the Mets for passing, and I get why the Phils took the chance. He's still kind of a frustrating pitcher. Dude has elite stuff, but rarely pitches like an elite pitcher. He's a more than solid #2, so that's good. But he'll always have a "what could have been" vibe about him. He spells his name Zack, by the way ... not Zach. As a Mets fan, I wish him well. Except when facing the Mets.
Oscar Taveras' death set the Cardinals back a few years in terms of talent. He was likely going to be the next Pujols in terms of hype and all. It's a shame that one reckless decision, for each of Skaggs, Fernandez, Taveras and Ventura, cost each of them their lives (though out of the 4, Ventura's may have only been weather related. Evidently, a toxicology report occurred, but the results were never disclosed to the public.)
It’s very possible that, had the cardinals not traded for Heyward to fill the RF spot, the Yankees would’ve given up some combo of Judge, Severino, and Sanchez for Heyward.
Ozuna was also brought in to replace Tavaras and that package included Alcantara.
I still think about Oscar and get a pit in my stomach ugh... 😫 Such a waste
Baseball AF is a good guy. Seeing him breakdown Zack Wheeler was a CURVEBALL
As a Marlins fan I miss Jose so much. His death changed the entire franchise. I remember in 2016 a game he pitched i asked for his autograph but he told me outside and i knew where the marlins came out after the game, jose came out saw me and then the rest of the fans came over signed for everyone in the line and then went on his way. Absolute gem of a human. Miss him so much.
I’m excited to what Myers can do for my Reds. It’s not like it can get much worse for us right now. RIP all the guys who passed. I remember them all.
I still think about Jose a lot.
He was going to be one of the best to ever do it. Multiple 300k seasons, multiple Cy Young's and the most exciting pitcher in baseball given he stayed healthy. It's heartwrenching to think about what could have been and it always will be
His fault.
you’re a fucking loser snd its obvious ur parents neglect ur loser ass. fuckn clown go get a life. pussy
Yeah man he would’ve dominated for years..
Rip to the two guys Fernandez killed
Man I loved watching Jose and Yordano, even as a Mets fan I loved seeing those guys as I grew up
I miss Oscar taveras he was the all time goat
I pulled a Tyler Skaggs auto and a Jose Fernandez redemption from the same box. I was, to say the least, very disturbed and sad.
Great video. Definitely subscribing.
I was completely stunned and saddened when we all lost the bright spot that was Jose Fernandez. Mannnn he was electric to watch on that field, but also fun to watch him on the bench too. Always looked like he was having fun out there. He fought for everything he's gotten in his life. His freedom from Cuba, his spot on an MLB roster and his undeniable character. RIP Jose Fernandez
You mean murderer Jose Fernandez?
Well said. I miss Jose very much.
Hey mate, great music this time man, and great video too bro.
I’ve always said that any baseball channel that uses Donkey Kong Country music in the background would become my favorite baseball channel. I guess this is my favorite baseball channel now.
Great Video
Thanks!
As a cards fan Oscar Tavarez till this day gets me. So sad in Dominican they don’t even have sides on their roads. He was so bright and saw such promise
Seeing how things panned out for Wil Myers will always sting. Not saying the guy was going to be All-MLB caliber at 1st, but the Hosmer signing doomed him and the Padres. He always did what was always asked of him in San Diego even if his bat was streaky at best. Hopefully he can get it together in Cincy
Appreciate the Halo music in the background. Nice video
Cardinals are still feeling the ripples of O.T.’s death
And that’s baseball.
And that it is
The messed up thing about Fernandez’ death from a baseball perspective is that the Marlins probably could’ve become really good if he were still around. An outfield of Yelich, Stanton, and Ozuna with a battery of Fernandez and Realmuto is a crazy core.
That puke warning was so foul of you 😂
Made our eyes focus on reading, right as the puke started. Hahah
I had to watch it live there was no warning then 😭
I thought the warning was we would see something that would make us puke, not actual puke lol 🤮
Travis has become something of a fan favorite lovable guy here in ATL. I went to Game 3 and watched him launch that WS homer in the bottom of the 8th to set the game to its eventual final of 2-0. Yeah, he's a bona-fide Brave forever now.
Cole will stroll into the HOF. I have no doubt. He still has 6 years of play left just on this contract and this is his age 32 season. Based off what we've seen from the elite power pitchers of his talent level in recent years, I would expect 3-4/6 of these years to still be prime or near prime level. That means 250 Ks annually, at most a 3.30ish ERA (though I expect several sub 3 years if the HR luck can stabilize some and he can get a real SS behind him), and 200+ IP. He already is right around 2000 Ks. He should pretty confidently get to 3000 Ks and playing for the Yankees plus pitching deep into games, he can probably average around 15 wins per year for next 3-4 years and then 8-10, putting him in a reasonable spot to get 200 career wins. Those type of stats make his HOF chances a pretty strong lock.
It’s also incredible how durable he is. Don’t want to jinx it
amazing video
Glad you enjoyed
What a different Marlin's we could've had if Jose hadn't left us. All these boys in their prime in a franchise ready for the big time, Jose Fernandez, Christian Yelich, Dee Gordon, Giancarlo Stanton, JT Realmuto, Marcell Ozuna, and just to top it off Ichiro leading them with ultimate wisdom.
Fernandez’s death still hurts. I’m a Cubs fan, but I have to wonder what would have been different in the last 7 years had Jose not died. The Marlins may have kept their core together and found success. Jose might’ve won a CY or 2. It’s just tragic
As a Padres fan, he may have not been the greatest but I still love Wil Myers, to me he’s my favorite Padre that I’ve seen play in person and I’ll definitely miss him
Your Padres have a knack for finding so-called disappointments, and are able to create killers...Myers, Machado and MLB's most undervalued killer, Trent Grisham.
@@JunkYardCardGuy I don't remember Machado being a disappointment on the Os...
This is one aspect I wish was touched on a little more in his breakdown with the Padres, at least as his tenure was coming to an end. He became beloved in SD for how he interacted with the fans and community in a time where we had guys with zero hype, or guys like Hosmer who didn't even try. And by the time we got all of the big names last season, everyone I knew saw him as a guy they wanted to win it all for-someone who tried his heart and soul out, 100% of the time, every time he stepped on the field for us. Knowing he would most likely be gone after last season was hard, and it still hurt more than I expected when the news he signed with the Reds actually was announced. Love him, hope he does well, hope he comes back as unrealistic as it is.
EDIT: I also want to say I love Profar too for his last three seasons in SD and hope he finds a spot on our roster this season if signed nowhere else.
You mean AAAA player Wil Myers?
The Dee Gordon home run is the most magical baseball moment of all time. Nothing makes me emotional but that did, and im a Red Sox fan.
The music during the Jurickson Profar section is fire, great choice.
Jose Fernandez was my favourite pitcher, dude was an absolute stud
every time i see dee gordon circle the bases i tear up
please blow this channel up, it's literally such good content and super nice to see more unique topics discussed on it, deserves major love from every baseball fan tbh. keep up the good work please!
Glad you enjoyed!
Outstanding video, you got my sub! You’re the Jose Fernandez of editing skills! Uh, I don’t mean that in any bad way
I see what you did with Profar´s background song... kind of a low blow, but funny AF nonetheless! Great content.
Oscar Taveras, we'll never know what you might've been.
Love the video, and the game freak music at the end (;
I think my first expletive is well deserved.
Brodie moment
the dee gordon home run clip always tears me up
Before signing with the Orioles, Bundy had reportedly wanted 30 million dollars per year.
Dude hadn't pitched a single MLB game.
Bro should have 100k subs cmon man! But amazing video
Great video! Lemme guess- you’re a Mets fan?
I’m a Yankees fan
Im a Mets fan and I LOVED Jose Fernandez. RIP young man.
The part that bothers me is the one with Tyler Skaggs, addicts are not treated that way ever, especially if they overdose and die, I wish more people treated addicts like humans but they just don’t, and because he was a successful baseball player it seemed like more people cared, I just want that same kind of love and compassion for the people struggling at home that have no help, or have no one behind them to push them thru, or the resources that a mlb player would get..
It’s really sickening to read some of the comments saying that Skaggs did it to himself or his choices had consequences. Drug addicts should have systemic support and humane treatment, they shouldn’t be treated as moral failures. I think a lot of people are finally getting that now, but there’s still a long way to go.
@@AndThatsBaseball I agree 100% with you, it is sickening to see how many people feel that way towards addicts, but I will say it was nice to see the support the angels showed after the tragedy.. didn’t expect to get a like much less a response but I’m happy to read what you posted forsure..
Jose Fernandez' death upsets me so much. Even in the recounting I was crying---I'm a Cubs fan and I liked Fernandez.
Just so you know, I subbed after you asked. It's not that I wouldn't have wanted to otherwise, it just wouldn't have occurred to me. So it does help to ask because not everyone clicks on a video to see if they wanna subscribe to someone.
I watched every game Fernandez pitched for the Marlins and there is zero doubt in my mind that he would be the single most dominant pitcher since Randy Johnson if he were alive and well today. I often find "electric" to be a tremendously overused word, but it's precisely what I'd use to describe Jose Fernandez. When he had the ball, you knew you were witnessing someone special and there was absolutely no doubt about it. I don't think I'll ever see a more exciting or tragic case of "come whatever may" again in my lifetime.
You’re telling me Bundy was a top 10 prospect?
Bundy threw 100mph as a 17 year old and was in the bigs in his age 19 season. He was ridiculous before his injuries.
Dang that’s pretty solid
16:01 him collapsing after getting hit is always gonna be one of the funniest things ever to me. hilarious that he just watched that floater from a position player come in and hit him then CRUMPLED. baseball is the best sometimes.
That clip you showed of "John Elefante" was actually Steve Walsh, the origional singer of Kansas 😂
The Jose Fernandez situation reminds me of the Lyman Bostock one back in the late 70s. Look him up if aren't familiar. Rookie-of-the-Year Cub Ken Hubbs from the early 60s as well.
Bostock was murdered, not an accidental death like Hubbs and Fernandez.
@@robertmurdock1848 I am aware of that. Still, he died before he could show his true value.
@@robertmurdock1848 Fernandez wasn't an accident.
Their deaths weren't comparable however, Bostock was murdered.
I sometimes think of Len Bias in connection with Fernandez. Both great talents with enormous futures that were cut short.
Tyler Skaggs actually overdosed in a building about 2 minutes from where I live. I remember that day being so surreal
One thing about Ventura was that he was a great player surrounded by good players. I always wonder how we would’ve ended up if we still had him. Even in our 2014/2015 run the Royals didn’t have any top of the line talent, they just had 9 extremely solid players who kept the line moving. No holes in that lineup but no player was a #1 at their position and Ventura had some potential to be a top 10 pitcher with his crazy arm talent. So unfortunate to see him go not only as a player but as a person
No death by an athlete shocked my core quite as much as Jose Fernandez, and I'm not even a Marlins fan. Dude was just an exciting player.
Wheelers Mets saga drove me nuts. If only he had a season in 2015 like he had in 2014, the Mets might've won the World Series
And if only Cohen owned the Mets when he left for free agency. Cant imagine he would've let him walk especially to a division rivals.
Sucks to see him be successful with the Phillies.
Profar now will most likely be an all star in 2024
This sport is just random sometimes huh
Sounded like some Donkey Kong 64 music in Profar's section... I loved that game
1) Cole got his CY.
2) rest in paradise to the 3 who could have changed baseball for years and years.
3) get clean. No hate, no malice, but save yourselves. We’re tired of losing people, 5 years clean and I have never been happier
Poor pirates man. Every time they get a good player he outgrows them and either leaves in a bad trade or free agency. If not then he gets hurt
Poor management and an awful owner will do that
Didn’t really understand about Tyler Skaggs too much, but I was at his last start ever, crazy to think about