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And this is why Deadpool and Wolverine won’t save shit.
What a bizarre comment. How was deadpool ever gonna save antman from losing money?
@@basicfilmblogthey're saying that the movie won't save the dying MCU. I imagine you're either being coy or you're incredibly daft.
He means save Marvel
Quantum-FAILIURE.
@@endless3cho well one singular film won't save anything and I don't think anyone has suggested anything of the sort? Will it make a fuckton of money? Also yes.
I used to work for a bank. If any teller lost 500 dollars, they lost their job.
At this point, Kevin Fiege and Kathleen Kennedy have lost hundreds of millions and there's no sign of their departure.
I fking hate Hollywood.
Oh yes. And think about THAT next time you struggle to pay a bill.
They have no regard for humanity.
That friends ep where phoebe is a stockbroker.
She lost 3 million dollars. Yeah she's fired.
How they get away with it here I'll never know
It's not about making money. It's about "The Message".
@@giovannibermudezjr You're absolutely right! What they are basically telling us is that you can blow millions of dollars just for a chance to overrepresent women, queers, and minorities in patronizing ways. If they only realized that This pandering approach was more ist and phobic....
Let us not forget their boss Bob Iger. How much has he lost for Disney and yet he still has a job as well.
Remember when we used to watch movies unaware that sequels were planned and just enjoy the ride? Good times.
Gone are the days
Pepper ridge farm remembers
Yup....I watched the first Star Wars movie back in the late seventies without even expecting a sequel or knowing it was part of a trilogy, even though it was hinted at towards the end of the film after the Death Star was destroyed.
Excess via technology. It's something humans were never meant to tap into and that's why it can never work in the long run. We need things small, simple and grounded, stories especially. Take things too far and the stakes become universe-ending stakes, and the only way to top that is to go multiverse and by then you can't even relate to it on a human level. Hence why the MCU now once again calls out for a small, grounded and human Iron Man (2008) style movie with a genuinely funny star at the forefront. No need for effects when you have raw talent. That's the recipe for a great cultural moment. No one is going to remember these CGI bloated excuses for movies.
Remember when "expensive" meant "good?"
Yeah, me neither.
But what if we throw MORE money in to public schools???
@@TheRevengeSocietyOr the homeless crisis.
I blame James Cameron!
Considering Godzilla Minus One was made on a $10-12 million budget and has made over 115.8 million so far... which was also one of the best movies released in recent times makes your comment much more valid.
Somebody solve a riddle for me:
I don't know shit about finances, but where does all this money go, if not into movie quality? Just tax write-off?
The problem of both Mandalorian and Antman 3 isn't greenscreen or Volume. It's horrible horrible writing.
It's both, actually, but it starts with the horrible, horrible writing.
The problem of almost every (western) movie and tv show currently is the writing, although the writing within movies/tv has been the problem for a long time now. I'm amazed that Hollywood hasn't noticed or admitted this.
I love the part where Grogu ate Lizzo's 🍌 banana...😬
Exactly. We can go back and watch terrible CGI from movies in the 90s and still enjoy them because they were well written.
Exactly this. I often watch movies / series and while it's actually quite ok from acting or effects(etc) side, writing is often like an anchor. It's just a death knell of anything it touches as of late.
how does District 9 still look so incredible 15 years later and was made on a $30mil budget??
Because it was not a money laundering scheme
Weta.
That is a very good movie, but I'm sorry I don't have an answer to your question.
Proper use of budget, an experienced effects team (just look at what OATS STUDIO has here on YT), good casting choices and a director who knew what he wanted to do and stuck to it.
Most importantly (as far as we know,) no executive meddling.
@@_Jay_Maker_ Something Lucas failed to do with the Prequels
Five years since End-Game? Feels more like fifty, feels like we've been trapped in creative purgatory for a lot longer.
i mean endgame wasn't particularly good either
it introduced most of the issues that are now plaguing the phase bore and phase hive-mind.
i.e. bring back the member-berries to power the current plot-events,
retcons of previous events that had emotional impact or setting wide repercussions
and replacing the characters people had developed an affinity for to replace them with failures of writing that simply play pass-the-parcel with that weeks mcguffin.
by that measure the core plot of captain marvel was actually more engaging even though the writing, character, disrespect to fury/colston and the zero remorse brutal takedowns of a team that wasn't proven to have done anything wrong. only the "bad-white-man-leader taking orders from the supercomputer granny-Ai-with-an-agenda telling the perfect paragon of a lady that control and holding back were key when in fact, closing your eyees, taking 3 breaths and realising in a flash-back that you were ALWAYS PERFECT and that all you have to do is try again and no obstacle can stand in your way, lack-of-training be damned, those evil lifelong trained warriors with size, talent, training, real-combat-experience, a breakdown on your entire powerset and the backing of an interstellar faction is enough to defeat mary-sue-girlboss once the "sweat beads" (oil-mister) stop and the close-up strobing clash of red/blue lights finally stops trying to give you an epileptic fit. Just stand there like an idiot and wave the magic CGi-wand an nothing can stand before you, working hard and practice are for other, LESSER people.
@@IRMentatOn reflection, Endgame should have dived straight into the multiverse and set up the Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars...then the MCU should have taken a rest, with just a few movies.
That infamous “all girl characters” ensemble scene was just a taster of what was to come next, we were warned and to my knowledge nobody over the age of 12 loved that scene, it just incited collective groans
The MCU ended with Infinity War to me. End game was just a big curtain call with a weak advertisement for the future of the series.
The signs were there in endgame
Fat Thor
Weak Hulk
A detestable captain marvel rammed down our throats
And of course the infamous girl power scene
I wonder how many movies Roger Corman could have made with $326 Million. Probably his entire filmography, I bet.
He could've done that on less than $100 million and might see it as a challenge.
According to the man’s actual track record of making Marvel Movies, he could have made exactly 326 films on that budget.
(I kid, of course…adjusting for inflation and marketing costs, he could probably only make about 200 Marvel movies for that much, today)
Corman did the most comic accurate Fantastic Four movie yet.
5 times over 😂
@@MrBubba19692 The Corman version looked terrible when I saw the bootleg in the mid 90s. However, compared to every FF movie since, the Corman version is a damn masterpiece.
Where the money goes? It's all just a money laundry for suspicious activities.
I had the same thought. These numbers don't seem realistically possible, unless something shady is happening behind the scenes.
Yes, they keep knocking out these massive bombs seemingly without any concern. They're either crazy or there's ulterior motives for their apparent blasé actions.
They are inflating the numbers intentionally to save on tax since it was such a huge bomb.
@@Sure_Sirlikely into their DEI department, can't offend those CGI creatures now, can we? Just imagine what they could of made using all that money, at least four or five films, it's a big waste of cash and really heads should be rolling for such a shocking failure!!
I’m sure none of this has anything to do with Disney’s deceptive accounting practices.
Anyone remember when Disney’s head accountant was trying to blow the whistle?
A joke from Boeing
It is safer to fly on a 737 MAX than it is to Blow a Whistle.
Money laundering. Par for the course.
326 million dollars? Top Gun Maverick didn't cost that much to shoot, and they had to get real planes and a real aircraft carrier!
Don't forget training the actors to actually fly the planes, the stunts were done by the pros but they actually had the actors fly the planes!!
@@superomegaprimemk2 no, they didn't. You think the Navy's going to let that happen?
Where did the money go? It's called laundering.
I'm just amazed people keep wanting these Marvel movies. Aren't people sick and tired of these things by now?
Judging by the way these movies are making less and less money at the bank, then I would say yes, they are sick and tired by now.
It's not the bad CGI, it's "The MESSAGE" everyone's sick of. Case in-point, Mary-Sue Cassandra Lang gives Antman a guilt-trip because he hasn't done anything lately since saving the world; she is a spoiled, deplorable character and the two men in the film are so emasculated it's cringe.. and then Marvel's most terrifying MODOK, who's been completely emasculated as well, is also the worst CGI of all time. The all-white-men-bad guilt-trip messaging is so heavy handed I can't get through it. Why would I go to a film that scolds me for having a Y chromosome and less melanin? I cannot control those functions without a nuclear reactor to devastate my DNA! No one wants to go to a movie to feel guilty and bad and not be able to do anything about it.
Exactly!! I have been to a movie since before covid. And I'm not going back to be made to feel bad for being a white male.
All the money goes to 3rd party nepotism companies that have leached their ways into every aspect of filming. The coffee company is someones cousin, the catering is owned by a producer, the lumber for the set is owned by brother of the foreman who is twice married into the Director's wife, ect ect ...
Disney's investors gotta be so happy learning this 😅
They had their chance to do something about it but chose not to. None of this is news to anyone paying attention.
Blackrock, vanguard and state street are fine with it 👍
@@alreadybanned-pe6seThey maybe fine with it but the stock is going down and down, which shows that there is very little confidence in the current board!!
Honestly? They don't care as long as Disneyland(etc) make money. And if you want to make them hurt, that's where you hit them.
@@alreadybanned-pe6seBlack rock,vanguard? Are these guys everywhere?
With Feige's Marvel, the cost goes to all the levels of reshoots. He automatically requires one EXTRA* level of them (according to him) so that he can "add" his personal touch. Yes, he is doing a full reshoot because he cannot be bothered to read the script or storyboard, instead (again according to him) he waits until the original version is completely finished and then he watches it, only to automatically send it back for **at least** one reshoot. They (probably illegally) make the CGI team re-do all their work without extra pay, which is why it ends up rushed, cheap looking, and without care. This is the primary reason why so many of them quit and went to join Skydance. Feige has been admitting this for five year (no, not kidding) and Iger does nothing because Feige will push any agenda he is asked to. So while I detest Feige, I also hold Iger in the same, if not more, contempt.
* (in addition to the two brief ones that are usually required in major productions. One for story changes during filming and one continuity pass to catch little accidents like a Starbucks cup in a Medieval setting - GoT S8)
Give me NASAs budget and I'll give you all kinds of cgi videos
@@alreadybanned-pe6se NASA's budget how big is it?
@@jeremybrown9611Considering NASA said they taped over the moon landing tapes, apparently it isn’t very high or they are liars.
There have been several articles on why the VFX on Quantumania were so lacking. A big reason was Wakanda Forever was being made at the same time, and that seemed to be the priority. Same VFX companies were working on both, and they were told to focus their resources on Wakanda. Quantumania got the scraps. Also the el classico from Marvel, constant changes up to the last minute. The director or producers don't know what they want, they just keep making big changes and tell them to redo whole scenes 20 times, like reshoots is one thing but another is just skipping the reshoots and tell the VFX artists to just make the scene from scratch in CGI, leaving them to wonder "so why didn't they film it like this if this is how they want it?". So long story short, lack of personnel, lack of time, constant changes up until the last minute, resulting in nothing being done properly.
To think that during the releases of Infinity War and Endgame, everyone thought Feige wasn't the Kathleen Kennedy of Marvel, but here we are.
The huge budget is going on the “scrapbooking,” filming three or four versions of nearly every scene. That’s like filming four movies under one title.
MICHAEL DOUGLAS HATED THIS MOVIE SO MUCH HE LITERALLY BEGGED DISNEY MARVEL TO KILL OFF HIS CHARACTER...
You mean Michael Douglas lol
@bioshock6935 OMG, hahaha, yes. I love them both. Will correct it now. Thanks.
So it's been revised from a flop to a full-on bomb.
I've done most interesting turds than these pedo Disney propaganda videos
They are are things known cause a decreases in quality of such things as CGI, such as DEI.
If people don’t like themselves, how can they like anyone or anything else? There’s no such thing as “the good fight” here.
Ant-Man 3 looks like a high-budget Spy Kids 3D movie. 🤣
When you don't hire according to merit.
CGI skill isn't declining, it's being crippled by corporate greed.
And indecisive choices, they keep changing their minds and as a result the effects companies are having to go back and alter things or out right scrap it because they cannot decide what they want and as a result I believe that the people who produced the CGI are forming a union to get better treatment overall as they are burning people out due to tight deadlines and the results are showing on screen
According to AP, that cost could buy a replacement for that bridge in Baltimore.
Long highway bridgs, a movie? Pick one.
You have got your self a bridge.
NEVER take the studios at their word on how much they are spending. Because budget is what you intend to spend, not what you will actually spend
Well said.
It's just 32x the budget of Godzilla Minus One.
They must sit around having money burning parties.🤷♂️
Look at the CGI in LOTR that came out in 2001. Some of the (critical) techniques used had to be invented during production in order to get the desired effects that Jackson wanted.
They were creating significant innovations on the fly, developing the new methods leveraging the technology that they had at their disposal at the time, on a $164,013,980 budget, in 2024 dollars.
Then, look at the Crayons used in 'Quantumania', with a reported $326,600,000 budget in 2023...
funny how that is out AFTER the vote
To be fair, you can't do much about production of a film when it's past a certain point
its amazing how even tho animation has existed for 100+ years now and the largest media empire in the world started off as an animation studio, production companies producers have never learnt how animation actually works and how to approach film and tv production with animation in mind
Yeah, I mean Wish looks like shit, right
Disney must be intellectually challenged. The previous two Ant-Man movies at NO point suggested they were on the verge of massively increasing their box office, so to spend that much more on Quantumania just seems deluded!
Wonder where the money is going? Hmm.
Israel and Ukraine allegedly
Boob lift?
Better question where is this money coming from? Blackrock propaganda machine?
@@artinist That's not as hard to guess. The money is coming from DEI pushers like Larry Fink.
@@artinist Blackrock gets it from the WEF, the WEF get it from various governments. It's all one big tangled pile of nonsense and we're all stuck in it like flies.
Oh, the Uk Gives a 25.5% refund for the money they spent in country. So basically Ant Man was so expensive because it was a a studio vacation.
What a party. yolo
Shark Boy and Lave Girl quality with Waterworlds budget
Things are so bad, that we have gone now over a decade and are still uncovering how awful things are.
" April 26
Avengers: Endgame premiered in Los Angeles on April 22, 2019, and was released in the United States on April 26 as part of Phase Three of the MCU. " i just got this from google
I’m actually surprised the MCU didn’t try to say the “Quantum realm” was the Microverse, home to the Micronauts, but I guess they lost that license a long time ago.
I think there were referenced as "Quantumnauts" in the credits. I believe Marvel still has the license.
@@mikecronis
IDW had the license for it and ROM several years back, and Marvel has put out new-ish collections of the original run of Micronauts and ROM, thanks to Hasbro.
@@tonyclements1147 Ah, I fondly remember the original run of Rom, Space Knight. The Micronauts were fun toys. I wish I still had them....
@@emdee8840
IDW Publishing’s ROM was meh, Hasbro’s problem was they tried to push all of their toy/comic franchises into one universe - Action Man, ROM, Transformers, GI Joe, Visionaries, Micronauts, even M.A.S.K. I think they might have considered stuffing Power Rangers into it if Boom Studios didn’t already have the license to publish their comics.
I'm seeing indie scifi with far better CGI. I kind of want to see an indie studio do an MCU level film, and intentionally do it on a shoestring budget (by Hollywood standards).
Funny thing is, they insist on making gargabe and crashing down, instead of learning from their mistakes and correcting course.
Isnt it interesting how all this fiscal mismanagement and box office failure is coming to light AFTER the board vote?
3:51 if this estimate is true, I can't imagine what the budget for Cap 4 will be like.
10 capillion
Movie budgets are a closely guarded secret so they can fleece taxpayer funded incentive programs.
It is almost like movie studios forgot how to actually make movies. Hopefully Denis Villeneuve and his Dune reminded everybody you don't need to shoot everything on a sounds stage or inside The Volume. These are great tools when used right but once movie gets to a point where majority of what you see is computer generated... it is hard to it seriously.
The whole budget is just a grift to their pals.
It's beating a dead horse at this point, but Godzilla Minus One cost less than $15M and looks better than most if not all of what Marvel has done in recent years.
and had a great story and real human characters.
@@battra92 exactly
I don't understand why studios aren't using The Volume as long distance backgrounds in combination with green screen for close up backgrounds.
I'll never watch End Game again. It was OK but not anything I'd sit 3 hrs through for brain candy like Lotr, SW a new hope or Aliens.
That's not even post production expenses. So in total Antman 3 cost over $400mil. That's crazy
Imagine living in an age where "being stuck with what was in the background on the day of filming" is a problematic proposition. 🙄
Paul Rudd and Evangeline Lily deserve better than this
Evangeline Lily is half the problem of those films. The very first Ant Man is the only one that's actually about Ant Man.
Who?
They don’t deserve jack shit. They’re getting paid millions for sleepwalking through this garbage. Even the likable Paul Rudd is oversaturated and thrown into every mediocre generic nonsense thrown into theaters.
@@_Jay_Maker_How she’s fine as the Wasp?
Marvel has managed to make me hate
Fucking
Paul
Rudd
I hate them
That’s what happens when Iger makes them reshoot it to make it funnier. I suspect that directly affected much of the look of the film. They were in a time crunch and they were forced to patch reshoots into the existing shot material. It’s Bob’s fault. Reportedly the original version was much more serious and ended either with the death of Ant-Man of his apparent death. Too dour for Bob. But maybe we needed that. We needed some stakes in this phase. Some teeth. Especially after Love and Blunder… That one was terrible.
You know what's tragic? Quantumania could have made Kang a genuinely intimidating threat, but they changed the ending at the last minute.
Around mid to late 2022, a leak of the movie's plot was shared around Reddit. Looking back, it was a completely accurate summing up of the story until it reached the climax.
Instead of a deus ex machina portal back to Earth, the Ant-Fam (another scrapped idea) had the Quantum wristwatches from Endgame. They manage to fix the watches and escape. Scott is left behind, and Kang beats the shit out of him ala Thanos to Tony in Infinity War. Hope goes back for Scott, but this is what Kang wanted. He steals her device, leaving Scott and Hope stranded.
The movie would have ended with Hank promising Janet and Cassie that they would rescue Scott and Hope. Everyone would be terrified that Kang is now free.
With nobody remembering Peter Parker is Spider-Man, Doctor Strange in the Dark Dimension, Thor off on his own with Love and now Ant-Man and Wasp trapped in the Quantum Realm, you could tell that they were setting the heroes up to be out of action and unable to stop Kang.
Then Fiege stepped in and shoehorned in a happy ending to ruin everything.
sounds to me like they hugely inflated the cost of post-production to secure a larger rebate.
All this money could've gone to building houses, apartments etc. So much money wasted.
Did they transfer the money from another movie to make this more expensive to hide where they actually spent it?
Facts
I still have some of my original Micronauts. I soooo enjoyed the comics. I know they don't have the rughts but do have the realm.
🤷♂️
As someone working in the film industry and haven seen producers working at their dodgiest...... I suspect Disney did not actually spend $330m on this film, but have only made it seem as though they did (on paper) - thus increasing their perceived spend so they can increase the amount they can get back from the tax offset system, which is usually a percentage of the overall spend. Happens all the time on productions.
Screw the M-She-U, I've just been watching Clone Wars (still pissed Akanin didn't Youngling the shit out of that certain senator) and DS9.
I'm also watching through DS9. I just finished S2 last night with the Jem Hadar intro.
Just finished ds9 quality righting and has a black man in a lead role and no one cared because he was that good Avery brooks did a great job
@@MrLaggan Correct. Averi Brooks said that he wasn't a black captain. He was a captain who happened to also be black. He is a man and an actor and wants to be judged by his acting, which was fantastick.
I recently watched the first mirror episode where he played a jerk. He made it layered-you can see that the bravado was a mask the character wore and every once in a while a broken man peeked out. Great acting.
@@davidm4566
@MrLaggan
The worst thing about the state of modern media is how much wasted potential from endgame, phase 4, the sequel trilogy, Nu-Trek, the DCEU, new who, etc... there's been times where I and friends come up with concepts both original and based on previous franchises that would blow the water out of half of these that films that don't even try. But instead all that wasted bloated budgets get funneled into box office bombs with the scripts that make fanfictions blush. Two underrated cult classics "Trust (1990)" and "Thank You for Smoking (2005)" both films centered about a couple of characters and the values of the modern world. Neither film trying to show the message down your throat or having massive CGI armies of poorly rendered soulless bad guys trying to destroy the world by opening a blue portal. Just films with people that face actual stakes, not sharing cinematic universes and weren't mass produced by calculations or charts. Works of art with their flaws, strengths and ultimately humanity. Not products. I recommend both films if you ever get the time.
Reminds of my country when ministers underperform - this moment around 11 new born died from sepsis at port of spain general and said health minister is not relieved. Honchos Kevin and Kathleen also fail upwards.
Sounds like it's all a big grift with the studios acting as giant money laundering safe houses.
What's ALSO a little known fact, is that Boston Dynamics featured their new 'Atlas' robot in this film! 😉🤣🤣🤣
😎🇬🇧
0:25 The studios set up a corporation for each film then overcharge this "independent" entity for using their studios, offices, effects production, etc. at whatever rate they want. If they had a competitive bidding process you could have Hollywood films as cheap as Godzilla.
And they use government grants to pay for things that actually cost them.
1:38 The Volume doesn't sound like a drawback at all. It sounds like an absolute win, to coin a phrase. Locking something into camera that the actors have seen on the day and was prepared ahead of time by the director/studio seems like the perfect approach to CGI.
Ant-Man 3 netted Disney, at most, $215 million from box office receipts, and that's giving them a pretty generous 40% of the international box office. They definitely lost a shitload of money on that film.
Thanks for the heads up
Their sponsors can print money endlessly.
That's the movie they should have introduced the micronauts
They will need to do some
Forensic accounting because ..... damn what did they do w all that $$$$
Always good to hear your takes, Dave. Thanks.
I’m scared of the rumors of them forcing Tobey to star alongside Wolverine and RDJ Iron Man in Secret Wars because I’m afraid they’ll kill him off along with the entire multiverse to force us to only have Disney’s stupid MCU continuity. 😖 Yeah, I’ll pass on returning to Marvel! Not even going to watch Deadpool & Wolverine!
From what I have seen been said in other places, apparently a huge part of the problem is directors, executives, and other "creatives" in the film studios treat CGI as if it is a magic "fix everything" button, and thus they think they can get lazy and constantly retroactively change their requests for how to produce CG characters, backgrounds, effects, and even whole shots frequently during the CG development and rendering process. As one can imagine, this prevents the polishing and fine touching process for CG rendering from ever being done.
You can basically tell whether the director/executives let the CG studio do their thing unmolested and without changing their minds on what they wanted, and if they did interfere with changes they wanted, how frequently they did, by the quality of the end result.
The treatment of CG animation like this is comparable to forcing classic hand-drawn cel animations to go back and re-animate shots, scenes, characters, and/or whole lengthy sections of their film as a result of changes demanded by the director or executives after things like the plot, character designs, and even storyboards are supposed to be finished and fixed for the entirety of production (all forms of animation require preplanning and nailing down what something will look like before starting actual production in order to not waste time, money, and other resources).
EVEN Firefly and Farscape had BETTER visuals than the latest Marvel movies! 🤣🤣🤣
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what annoys me the most about this movie is their ability to breathe in the quantum realm, when it is stated in the first movie that Ant Man has to wear a helmet when shrunk because the oxygen molecules are too big to metabolize and in the q realm, an oxygen molecule would be the size of the star Betelgeuse. So how can they breathe without an enclosed suit?
Yeah, it's that whole "helmet removal" BS everyone hates so the actors can show-off their faces when they talk. Pedro Pascal hates wearing his helmet in Mandalorian, but it's super-effective and brilliant. I hate it when Marvel MCU characters remove masks, helmets, etc. so we can see them talk. Dumb.
Everybody gets a ribbon.
The cringe character of Kang was a bigger problem. Nobody wants to see a whiny, weak, fit throwing villain.
I don't remember Thanos shouting at anyone like a little boy without a toy.
AND they don't even take in all of those profits - they share it with the theaters.
And I didn't even watch End Game. When Captain Marvel came out, I was completely done with Marvel. And Disney. I haven't watched a single Marvel film since. I walked out of the theater half way through "The Last Jedi" because it was stupid-horrible and I've never watched The Rise of Skywalker, nor have I or will I subscribe to D+ to watch any of that garbage. No studios are making decent scifi franchise movies anymore. Heck, Star Trek died to me with Jar Jar Abrams' movies. Lest I think there was ever any chance to save Star Trek, the clip I saw of that horrendous "musical" episode of Strange New Worlds proved I was right to let that dumpster fire burn.
"A studio might make about 60% of a film's ticket sales in the United States, and around 20% to 40% of that on overseas ticket sales" so yeah it lost major money .. they just don't learn
Disney would’ve been better off giving $325 million to feed the homeless.
This has got to be one of the biggest wastes of money in history
How much DEI £ was pumped into this though? That's never disclosed on their balance sheets
Also they don't actually use the Volume footage in the final product. They do indeed rotoscope it out and replace it like they would a greenscreen. The Volume is mainly used for lighting and reference. In theory it should work for making more realistic lighting that matches the visual effects. But the Volume makes it look like it was obviously filmed in a closed room whereas with greenscreen you can have more open space and more room for light to bounce realistically.
They did have those bigass ants. Just imagine how much time & resources it took to grow those!
Saving money has become a revolutionary act. Never mind protecting your money from the government, even saving money from private interests like the film industry is seen as an affront to society.
With the speed of computers, you would think CGI would be getting cheaper the longer it is in use. Like most technology.
Speed of computers is part of the problem, because now executives think they can keep remaking the same scene 20 times. It used to be they had to make a decision on how the scene was going to be, lock their answer, then VFX artists polish it up and render it (over how many weeks it took for one scene to render and that was it). Now they see the render the next day and tell the VFX artists to redo it. The artists can only work so fast, and in the end there is no time left for polishing.
0:27 I wish someone would break down Where The Money Goes.
They throw around hundreds of millions of dollars like Monopoly money.
Post production costs in the millions are the norm.
They used to get it right the first time.
Why does Marketing nearly double the entire production cost?
All they're doing is presenting the movie and enticing people to see it.
Is that money non-refundable when the movie flops?
This entire operation Stinks.
No wonder they choose to shame, dupe and bully movie goers.
They'll probably go to Congress to mandate a monthly two ticket minimum at the theaters,
OR FACE FINES 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.
That’s insane, given that Ant Man is nothing but a background Avenger, much like Falcon? They really have no clue what they’re doing
Good man Dave Cullen 👍 spot-on
Thanks Dave
That fart I unleashed after breakfast was worse than I thought. 🥞😋... 😜😖💨🎶💩... 😳🤧
*"NUFF SAID"™*
The Volume doesn't fix inherent shortcomings of green-screen environments.
1) The actors can't interact or play-off of the environment. The Volume (I think of it as The Void) presents a visual setting, but lacks a genuine sense of depth, smell, pressure, acoustics which actors naturally ReACT/InterACT/ACT with.
2) The actors display an awareness of inability to interact with the environment. They don't look around naturally, they don't reach out, they don't meander, they don't explore their environment, because there isn't anything to explore.
3) The actors expressions are limited by their surroundings. E.G. at 2:47 Do you see the 3 actresses riding the platform as "traversing the quantum realm" or do you see them as "3 actresses standing on a platform with C.G.I. being rendered behind them"?
4) Most egregious is the directing is lazy. They setup a scene and believe "the backgrounds are rendered, the cameras are in focus, and the actors delivered their lines, next shot" Rather than seeing whether or not the scene feels genuine. Its artificial and devoid of natural human emotions. People are supposed to resonate with the actors on screen, not "tune out and let a visual/audio muddle their senses for 2 hours".
When they use the Volume they do film "what's in camera" but more often than not these visuals are either enhanced or completely replaced with new visual effects. Often due to time restraints the visuals that are used are mostly there for the indirect lighting on the actors. You don't have that advantage when you use green or blue screen.
They've blown out the purchase of SW and MCU by 100%. They lost everything just for the privilege to burn the ships after landing, now they have the stance we can't go back now!
1:38 ...but haven't filmmakers been dealing with that drawback for literally 100 years 😂
I got talk with an actor who has worked in the Volume. He loved it as you were immersed in the created world.
The CGI budget nowadays HAS to be mostly money laundering.
The trouble with CGI is that people appear to get lazy. Back in the day with practical & stop motion effects it took effort so the technicians took pride in their work and it showed in the movies. I would argue Ray Harryhausen movies are still some of the best fantasy movies ever made.
The Volume is just good'ole back projection by another name. Funny how the more things change the more they stay the same.