A Neuroscientist Talks of Consciousness: Rudolph Tanzi

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  • @robsmith1a
    @robsmith1a 7 років тому +9

    One of the most interesting things I have heard on the subject of consciousness - he has real clarity of thought.

  • @TaePoDongIII
    @TaePoDongIII 7 років тому +17

    No doubt consciousness is my fav subject overall in life. So much to think on. Amazing mystery and connection to the universe. Also just found this channel via Donald Hoffman videos. Thanks :)

    • @Chrisko1492
      @Chrisko1492 Рік тому

      The point is literally to NOT think so much. Seems you didn‘t understand anything.

  • @amaliaantonopoulou2644
    @amaliaantonopoulou2644 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful! That's an excellent explanation. For not an obvious reason, maybe by insight and intuition, I have come to these conclusions since I was young and I'm not even a scientist. Though, I used to read science and philosophy from a young age. We need such scientists, intelligent and insightful.

  • @andreasschauerte1750
    @andreasschauerte1750 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much, Rudolph Tanzi, for showing me that other people also come to the conclusion that it makes more sense not to create any matter at all. I called it "consciousness is dreaming the universe" - which is much the same you said. As a TNS member I know I am not stupid, but some realizations leave me so alone that I sometimes doubt the validity of my own conclusions.

  • @TheTauchsieder
    @TheTauchsieder 5 років тому +3

    This is the most comprehensive scientific worldview i've heard. This is so valuable

  • @dolph581
    @dolph581 7 років тому +15

    Better than ANY guru on the internet. Excellent

    • @UnderStanding_with_Javid
      @UnderStanding_with_Javid 6 років тому

      So you have already checked all of them?

    • @mythicsin3083
      @mythicsin3083 6 років тому +1

      dolph581 It good in conjunction with a "guru" who is actually in a permanent state of non duality. One is experiencing it, one is explaining it from the perspective of science.

    • @claudiochianese9850
      @claudiochianese9850 5 років тому +1

      Maybe because he isn't a guru, he's the foremost expert on Alzheimer's Disease in the world.

    • @Homunculas
      @Homunculas 4 роки тому

      @@UnderStanding_with_Javid I know it's been two years, but I sincerely believe it's never too late to call someone a *FACETIOUS**BITCH*

    • @UnderStanding_with_Javid
      @UnderStanding_with_Javid 4 роки тому +1

      @@HomunculasAnd? Can you elaborate on what does that mean?

  • @kahlread5537
    @kahlread5537 7 років тому +7

    Carlos Castaneda suggests when we become lucid in a dream we need to consciously look at our hand. On my fourth consecutive lucid dream I remembered his advice and discovered my fingers were webbed and had a green/purple aura. Instinctively I knew that I was experiencing a memory from the womb when I was conscious and looking at my hand in front of my face. The realisation of spaning three dimensions of consciousness created a feeling that can only be described as god-like. It jumped the lucid feeling I had been experiencing to a higher plane than the three previous nights. I then knew why he recommended the process.

    • @mark-govers
      @mark-govers 5 років тому

      Kahl Read Wow what a fantastic experience, and we are blessed that you shared this divine gift, thank you I hope you continue to pursue this work and Share to those who are ready, you might like my website orangesunlabs.com

  • @edzardpiltz6348
    @edzardpiltz6348 5 років тому +3

    Finally a scientist that does not blindly believe in an outside world made out of matter only because we have a sensual perception that tells us so.
    I wonder why do few scientist acknowledge that fact that evening we perceive is an appearance in consciousness and that matter and an "outside world" is and can always only be a mere supposition. 😘

  • @109ARIANA
    @109ARIANA 5 років тому +11

    Please omit musical interludes in future episodes.
    Otherwise...thank you so much!

  • @christinemiller230
    @christinemiller230 6 років тому +3

    What makes most sense! PERFECT. THANK YOU

  • @cramalingeshwararao8642
    @cramalingeshwararao8642 5 років тому

    By far the most profound video I heard on the subject .when we say YOUR awareness what is that YOUR. Please clarify

  • @davidjohnzenocollins
    @davidjohnzenocollins 4 роки тому +1

    The musical interludes are wonderful! Thank you for them.

  • @sarahdeck520
    @sarahdeck520 Рік тому +1

    Our body stores emotions, feelings, and controls the mind. We are energetic spiritual beings that have energy centers in the body. As we age, these energy centers are being blocked from the darkness of this world, creating mental health issues, diseases, and addiction problems. Until science can realize that we are energetic spiritual beings having a human experience here on earth. There will always be diseases, mental health issues, and addiction problems. #awakeningtosource

  • @goodsirknight
    @goodsirknight 6 років тому +3

    this is my philosophy but I have never been able to articulate it. lovely stuff x

  • @jonyxy777
    @jonyxy777 6 років тому +2

    a lucid and trenchant treatment of the subject of consciousness, thanks.

  • @mrssrm5053
    @mrssrm5053 7 років тому +33

    The musical interludes were IRRITATING UNNECESSARY and DISTRACTING

    • @skemsen
      @skemsen 5 років тому +4

      My thought exactly!

    • @TheRealChemlock
      @TheRealChemlock 5 років тому +3

      they completely undermined the validity of his observations. this video is unrecommendable among respectable company purely because of the music.

    • @epicp.9489
      @epicp.9489 4 роки тому +3

      For me It was necessary cause I wasn't watching but listening while looking outside and the music told me to read the question. Mrs Srm did you notice you're not the only one in the universe?
      So let me understand, 3 secs of music didn't let you concentrate...just watch tik toks they're short.

    • @shayxo193
      @shayxo193 Рік тому

      At least they were quite short

  • @Wflowergrown
    @Wflowergrown 4 роки тому

    There is a very thin line between a Neuroscientist and a Mad Man. Wonderful explanation.

  • @crazierthan-u7571
    @crazierthan-u7571 4 роки тому +1

    I've had two or three episodes of so-called
    lucid dreaming. They were unplanned and ultimately not very useful.
    First, although I was aware I was dreaming, I wasn't as knowledgeable or rational as I believed. Upon awakening, I'd discover I had had basic elements of the dream wrong, like the setting. What I thought was my brother's house in the dream, in waking retrospect, wasn't like his house at all. A really goofy one took place at the office where I worked. Amidst all the typical dream craziness, I suddenly became "lucid," then I had a brilliant idea. I'd write a note to myself and put it in my desk drawer, then the following morning, after I was awake and actually at work, I'd find the note! (I'm not sure what I was trying to accomplish.) Then two trains on the street outside collided head on, and I went rushing to the door with the other dreamfolk to look.
    My attempts to talk with dream people, after becoming conscious of dreaming, have been useless. It is as though the content of the dream has been previously determined, and they will not deviate from that script, if they talk at all. When I became aware that my interactions with my deceased daughter were occurring in dreamland, I started telling her that I knew she was really dead. She wouldn't speak but stared at me like I wasn't supposed to be saying that. Like an actor in a live performance would stare at another who was flubbing his lines. I was supposed to conform to the dream's content, which I returned to doing, though not deliberately. It was better that way. Because I could tell it wasn't her. She was much younger for one thing; a creepy dream person. When I went back to being a dreamer, I had a vivid, realistic experience of my daughter that was wonderful until the dream started breaking up like a cloud dispersing.
    I did have one experience with contentious dream figures. They weren't trying to kick me out of the dream, but they were trying to prevent me from looking too closely at some framed writings hanging near the exit of a mall that I was running frantically through for the third time before I "woke up" and realized I didn't have to do that! So I slowed down and was checking out the ton of colorful stuff. When I saw those sayings or whatever on the wall, I thought, "All right, this is it! I'm going to see if these things have any content of import." That's when a little group of people in head-to-toe blue spandex body suits -- blue people -- began moving me along and out the exit. But they were too late. I had already perused the contents of several of the frames, and sure enough, they were just window dressing. They either said something pedestrian like "home sweet home" or made no sense at all.
    I'd love to have the cool, truly lucid experiences Rudolph describes. My experiences have left me with the belief that dreams are just poorly written plays with props and android-like, limited figments of characters. Even the dreamer is not real 99.9 percent of the time. Bullshit, by and large.

  • @sharonhearne5014
    @sharonhearne5014 4 роки тому +1

    I cannot help but believe that the essence of that being who slowly lost critical data with Alzheimer’s disease is still floating out there in consciousness with all data intact whether we can now observe it or not.

  • @isitool8
    @isitool8 3 роки тому

    Thank you for this

  • @ganazby
    @ganazby 5 років тому +1

    The music interludes are hopelessly inappropriate. The message is important.

  • @peterjohnson1332
    @peterjohnson1332 6 років тому +5

    Can spend a lifetime thinking and talking about this but will be no closer to understanding anything.

    • @jasmats
      @jasmats 5 років тому +1

      Untrue statement

    • @freddylastra502
      @freddylastra502 2 роки тому

      There are two ways of seeing this. 1) if particles are all there is, then consciousness is an illusion (99.999 % of scientists belive this).
      2) if particles are not what they seem , i.e. they are virtual , which is the same to say reality is information, then consciousness is fundamental . To me, quantum mechanics points to the second one.

  • @MrBorceivanovski
    @MrBorceivanovski 7 років тому +2

    Great lecture !

  • @tanjaborchhardt2123
    @tanjaborchhardt2123 7 років тому +3

    literally mind-blowing :-)

  • @russellcovey8363
    @russellcovey8363 3 роки тому +1

    1974, age 16, I get to experience what ice cream is like and I live in America.
    One morning I woke up for school. I had a dream and when my ride came by that morning. I told him. Wayne. You need to tell Joey Kirby to be careful, something bad is going to happen to him. Within a month or so, he was shot through the heart and died.
    How these two, 2015, my brother calls me up to talk and during our talk. He said, guess who retired(it's a small town) I said. I don't know. Then, I said, Lee, he's going to die with two years. He died a year and half later of cancer.
    2000, my business partner tells me that I need to create a new product. I pause, then, I hold up my spiral notebook. Pointing to the cover. I say to him. I see a screen, in the future doctors will use it to read patients charts and people will use it to read books. Then I said, how about a gun grip that read your hand print and deactivates safety. Preventing someone else from using it.
    This is just a little of an amazing, incredible life I have lived this far and only in last couple of years that I have contacted with this.
    -accidental monk

  • @MrTwinkieeater
    @MrTwinkieeater 10 місяців тому

    How does this parlay into Dissociative Identity Disorder?

  • @jonathanpope81
    @jonathanpope81 4 роки тому

    The keyboard music is duff but transcend that! Its edited, and has to be segmented to put across the fundamental gist.The interview was probably twice as long! Be happy.

  • @UnderStanding_with_Javid
    @UnderStanding_with_Javid 6 років тому

    Professor Tanzi, when you say "self becomes the continuity of you and your memories", and then add that lack of that self may become indeed terrifying, do you intend to mean that you will suffer even though you no longer have a connection with your self?

    • @mythicsin3083
      @mythicsin3083 6 років тому

      Javid Alizada when you lose the sense of self it can be terrifying. If you integrate then you have disappeared and it is fine. Not the doctor and ignore if you want.

  • @waveofthoughts
    @waveofthoughts 5 років тому

    Unless we are tuned into a frequency from space..we have our own frequency created by collective consciousnesses, a field of information that is not bound by space & time. Consciousness is the awareness of one's self, that emerges from the higher constraint for deeper observation of one's place & existence within space & time. An extended level of mind that monitors thoughts of the future, past & presence. Consciousness is a fundamental derivative from thought for future survival instincts. Where it may come from is from the wave of thought, frequency of sound that vibrates though all living things. A wave or sound we cannot detect, but bounces off the energy produced. We may be in a pertri dish (earth), of the observer trying to find it's origin through us & this is why we are programmed to survive & find our origin. Because using common sense..as we see it, how is it that we live on a fine tuned ball out in a "space" that is uninhabitable, from fiery explosions comes a feather?, comes a cell with loads of programmed data to survive, everything evolved to make the right conditions for life?. Either we intuitively know there is more, or we are creating it. Searching for our truth always comes back to biology, as we can never get away from our base of origin as we see it. But common sense does not reside in space & our perceptions limit us regardless of the findings. Would be nice if we could turn the lights on in space & have a better understanding..but i think we are not capable of interpreting nor comprehending what is beyond, but in our own concept, as what we think we see, is not the true picture of what is really out there. It may be purposely done so we can never cross that barrier & go to far in space as we will implode. When we are dying/die the higher mind kicks in..fight or flight & can see beyond the body in the higher state of consciousness, the one that has a birds eye view of the collective consciousness that connects all of us & can see it's own existence within the space & time we live in..our own space/time we created.

  • @russellcovey8363
    @russellcovey8363 3 роки тому

    Imagine, waking up, getting dressed, and heading out the door. You may not eat to dinner, you may not drink water but once or twice in a day, unless, you have a heavy physical job.
    What I'm getting at is this. You shouldn't be aware of what you want, it should just happen all on it's own, like the animals in the wild.
    Now, who would like to learn how to live this way, like wild animals?
    By living this you natural release abilities hidden deep inside you. These abilities, which we know as magic, because we rarely ever see them happen. Mostly we will hear about it.
    As you go through the day in this state. What ever situation you come upon. You will accept, take an interest (attention and interest) in it. Unaware of what is happening inside you. Then, you will either act on the moment or move on.
    What if, every thought you have generates some form of action, and from it comes productivity?
    What if, you are always in a competitive more, always up for any challenge and you're completely unaware that you're in this state.
    Welcome to the first couple of years of your life, all human's lives.
    So, how did you lose it? You became like the people around you, just as they did, they be became like the people around them and so on through each generation. Which is why we think how we're living is the norm and it's very far from it.

  • @kahlread5537
    @kahlread5537 7 років тому

    The idea we can forget who we are while still alive parallels our ability to forget who we are in a broader sense when we sleep. Ancient mythologies tell us a simular thing occurs when we die. Memory becomes extremely important in the bigger picture. In fact the idea of memory goes back to the stone-age African Bushmen. The word man comes from mn, memory. They attributed it to the mantis who has a neck that swivels from side to side. Interestingly their idea - symbolised in the only insect to have a neck - not only encompasses memory but also the idea of forward vision, hence the word mantis is known in Greek to mean soothsayer.
    It appears that when we can see the past clearly - with all its wondrous patterns - we are able to see the future as a projection. Maybe if we die with this mindset being resident... we won't forget who we are as we pass through the bardo points and then be born again knowing who we truly are. In this sense our immortality would be resurrected.

  • @louisar4227
    @louisar4227 6 років тому

    He’s referring to self from the perspective from ego self, not from the perspective of awareness. We are all unique expressions of the one supreme consciousness, but we do not need to refer to an ego-self for our sense of identity, because that’s not ultimately who we are. All ego is is a collection of words you associate with yourself, but words are devoid of experience, they will never give you the experience of you. Only when we are still identified with the mind would we judge not being aware of time as a problem, being in a state of timeless, is the very meaning of being in the present moment. When we are truly present we are not thinking about time, we are in a stage of timeliness. That’s where we live.

    • @jasmats
      @jasmats 5 років тому

      Says who?

    • @davidjohnzenocollins
      @davidjohnzenocollins 4 роки тому

      Louisa, at 1:54 he describes what it is like for people who are "truly present" and who are not referring to an ego self. He is, I'm afraid, describing what the disease of Alzheimer's does to people.

    • @davidjohnzenocollins
      @davidjohnzenocollins 4 роки тому

      Then again, I guess having pure consciousness events are good, as long as you can come back out of them and think about them from the perspective of an ego self.

  • @ernestweber5207
    @ernestweber5207 5 років тому +1

    To even call this a journey implies an actual start and end point and might even suggest that getting to some imagined end is the purpose. It could be called a moment to moment flash dance of consciousness that is static in nature and variable in display. It is the same, infinite moment with an apparent continuity provided by mind, for mind and as mind for its own illusion.
    his is is it and you are that. And yes, it is already accomplished. Relax. Just be.

  • @edlabonte7773
    @edlabonte7773 Рік тому

    Esse est percipi. --George Berkeley

  • @delicosauk
    @delicosauk 6 років тому

    This organ that allows you to be conscious?

    • @charvijanae
      @charvijanae 6 років тому +1

      Julie Baxter hippocampus

  • @sharonazar1
    @sharonazar1 6 років тому +4

    the problem with the idea of human primates alone having consciousness and cats not having consciousness, gives humans an excuse to think they are above non humans. All living beings have consciousness, feelings, thoughts and all want to live. Simple.

  • @abhishekshah11
    @abhishekshah11 4 роки тому +1

    The musical interludes were more than welcome. Please don't listen to these other guys who say it was bad. It wasn't

  • @pauliehaley103
    @pauliehaley103 5 років тому

    🙏🌞

  • @jonathanpope81
    @jonathanpope81 4 роки тому

    solid thesis

  • @mylucidlife495
    @mylucidlife495 6 років тому

    No, existence is there whether anything is aware of it. He has it backwards. How can there be awareness without something existing to be aware of. He also doesn't understand lucid dreaming very well.

    • @Fire-Toolz
      @Fire-Toolz 6 років тому +1

      this analysis is based on classical physics. you say "how can there be awareness without something existing to be aware of" and that question has been researched and questioned through countless experiments for many years now. i really encourage you to study this science. look at the work of john hagelin for example. it may not make sense to you at first thought but that is *actually* what is going on. and once you understand the science of it, it doesnt sound completely wacky anymore. you just need it better explained to you and you'll go "oooooooh okay, wow, that makes sense now!" i promise :) it is really not good to watch a video that doesnt make sense to you and then claim it is wrong just because you arent able to yet connect the dots. its not because youre stupid or something, you just havent read/listened to more about it. he likely understands lucid dreaming but in a different context than you because he's approached it from an entirely different angle based on his professions and studies. please, remain open! we dont know it all.

    • @mylucidlife495
      @mylucidlife495 6 років тому +1

      Fire-Toolz you assume too much about me.

  • @indahyoulpi5411
    @indahyoulpi5411 6 років тому +1

    i need text

  • @ull893
    @ull893 Рік тому

    Neville Goddard ❤️🌹❤️🌹

  • @zatoichiable
    @zatoichiable 4 роки тому

    Nothing is the name for the name unmanifest ...

  • @neilmetcalfe8406
    @neilmetcalfe8406 3 роки тому +1

    The music is hideous.Get rid of it.

  • @seesnap
    @seesnap 4 роки тому +1

    Pity music ruins this

  • @johannwagner5453
    @johannwagner5453 3 роки тому

    El inglés de este muchacho es imposible de entender

  • @abiral_neupane4045
    @abiral_neupane4045 5 років тому

    the four fs flight fight food reproduction

  • @jonathanpope81
    @jonathanpope81 4 роки тому

    get over the crap jingles and GET THE POINT. Sorry but I get frustrated with those in shells.

  • @HeavyMetalFudge
    @HeavyMetalFudge 5 років тому

    Did he just say the universe has walls?

    • @davidjohnzenocollins
      @davidjohnzenocollins 4 роки тому +1

      No, he was describing the universe as envisioned by people who think the universe is made up of matter and that, somehow, consciousness arises from it.