Thank you doctor Tanzi for being a great scientific visionary :) The layers of consciousness now at this moment remind me of how a 3D Printer builds up a material object: layer by layer. When we are born we build our life layer by layer. At the end we are the onion and peel it of again: layer by layer :)
This is my favorite presentation style by the way. Interviewers often dance around the question when writing it down like you did would have saved all of us so much time. If I could make one rule for the world it would be -- only written questions are permitted. Half the people would discover their questions are meaningless and half of what remains would be found inconsequential. Thank you!
Lucid dreams Yes, I possess the ability. I have been experiencing lucid dreams since I was 6 years old. Over time, I have refined my skills, allowing me to enter this unique realm each night and take full control of my dreamscapes. I can explore any place, soar through the skies, transcend earthly limits, and interact with anyone I choose. I have the freedom to go wherever I please, see anyone I wish, and even experience emotions like love and touch within this fantastical world that I shape to my liking. Despite the vividness of my dreams, I assert control and never yield, persevering even in the midst of nightmares. I persist until I mold my dreams to align with my desires, only then awakening. I believe I am among the select few, the 1%, who can consistently achieve this phenomenon multiple times each night. Thank you, and may blessings be upon all. - Dona Salina Giat Bramall
~ We are not here to create we are here to remove those barriers and limitations placed on our minds that hinder self realization ~ As we go through this purification process our awareness expands, We then gain greater insight and deeper understanding of the world around us ~ If you want to expand your awareness you need to follow your intuition ~ If you follow your ego it will limit your awareness and place barriers on your minds ability to understand the true nature of reality ~ Your ego is only interested in defining itself and creating false realities where it can take center stage ~ Creativity is part of the finite universe ~ If you want a better understanding of the infinite then you need to let go of the finite ~
Tanzi is a rare and brilliant man! Absolutely fantastic. I wish all Scientists would stop focusing on their one myopic discipline and understand that the picture of reality is made up of many many puzzle pieces. They need to put piece aside their one lil piece........and go looking for the other pieces. This will solve the puzzle of reality imo. ; )
When it is seen that the content of thought is consciousness, thought vanishes and consciousness remains. Consciousness is different from its object in that while objects vary consciousness remains constant.
this was awesome. I'm still not fond of the attempt to attack empiricism and the existence of external matter.. but it does make sense, that consciousness itself is a matrix that precedes anything we can call "material/substrata" without consciousness there is no "self" to *experience* the external world, therefore awareness is first attention.. but we can't deny the subsequent attentions, the material world is a layer to this "awareness", and must be accepted to exist even if only on the grounds of positing a "shared reality" beyond ones identification of the body..
Secret EyeSpot The notion of external matter is a product of the mind. Things may feel solid and real to us, but we have not found something called matter anywhere but in our minds
Roy S it's quite obvious you don't understand what "empiricism" is.. If it were all just "in our minds" then other creatures with similar complex nervous systems wouldn't corroborate with our intuitions.. There's a reason why we test *other* species for our understanding of behavior.. the facts we discover in relation to the supposed "mind-body" problem are not anthropocentric.. so even if you say "its all in our minds" we have no reason to doubt our experiences because we're clearly not the only minds experiencing the things we've been tested for..
Let me say the following, I'm strongly agnostic, but i loved and, strangely, understood everything he said ❤️🙏😊i usually do not pretty much get what nondualists assert
~ One thing i would like to point out is ~ We live in a multidimensional universe ~ Most people do not realize this ~ Because they do not have an expanded awareness ~ As a persons awareness expands they start to have “ Lucid Dreams ” ~ They then become aware of these alternate realities ~ You can also learn things faster in these alternate realities ~ Because they often times move at higher frequencies through time, space, then our own ~
I would like for Dr. Tanzi to express his views now after so much progress in neuroscience. The brain IS the basis of being, of the perception of self and mind. No doubt about it. He is incorrect here about feelings (so-called qualia) and memory. The brain "stores" memories with subjective feelings as groups of neural networks in specific patterns. Memories and feelings are reconstructed based on them. I hope Dr. Tanzi has updated his beliefs based on science.
Neural wiring no doubt plays a role in the thinking process but it is the frequency of neural discharge that encodes analogy. Synapses permit analogies to modulate each other. The meaning of an analogy is defined entirely by its synaptic context. This is perfectly analogous to the way the meaning of most words is completely derived from their context in a sentence. Sometimes it takes a whole paragraph to express a thought. Analogously, it takes a multitude of neuronal analogies to constitute a complex concept. One of the most complex is the 'self' concept. The self is conscious of the world when analogies picked up by the sense organs make it through a host of unconscious neural processing filters to modulate some of the analogies that constitute the self process.
~ Your brain is used as a signal processor ~ Without it there would be no way to process anything ~ Insight understanding and intuition are all high level functions that are dependent on memory ~Your intuition is an extension of memory ~ it is in fact a vague recollection of past experiences ~
Many have trouble with the fact that the only light that can be seen is the light that enters eyes. And when that light is encoded by the eye and its generated signals processed by the brain, one doesn't see light at all, one sees only things.
Ask three questions from yourself after waking from a dream. 1. The observer of my dream was conscious or unconscious? 2. The observer of my dream was in my dream or in the universe? 3. Is the observer of my dream still conscious? If so then where? Answers of these questions will enable us to understand that Consciousness exists independent of the brain.
My experience is that as soon as a dream is recognized as a dream it fades away within 10 seconds and one wakes up. It seems its not possible to continue an illusory world ones there is knowledge of its non-reality. If somebody have had other longer experiences like the ones mr chopra sell, please tell me.
Daniel Edberg hey mate, its down to a discipline and practise and dedication. You can find a lot of info online but here is a summary: 1. Write down every dream you can remember every morning 2. as you go to bed, read these dreams and think about them 3. after you have a good amount of dreams, highlight the things in them that COULD NOT happen in the "real" world, these are your dream signs 4. when anything similar to these dream signs happens in real life, question yourself, am I dreaming and try and wake up 5. Ask yourself often during the day if it is a dream, eventually you will be asking in your dreams if it is a dreamand becoming more aware of your dreams being dreams, it will start with you waking up when you realise, but eventually you will become lucid. 6. Things that help - a lot of clean water and tea during your days, no drugs or alchohol, meditation and talking about your dreams.
It is possible to stay longer, one trick is to turn around in your dream. Another method is try to keep yours eyes open, but as you say without training it is almost impossible to stay more than a few seconds.however sometimes you may be triggered in a dream, that you are dreaming,in this type of lucid dream it is possible to remain in the lucid state for a while longer. If you are very lucky you might get an invitation, and get a vision.these are unforgettable.
If you are able to hold a dream, it becomes reality.Since there is noo difference between the real world and dream world, except for the time lag induced by physical existence( Start Finish). I can bring down eagles from the sky.
Aware and conscious are synonyms. You said, "Pure awareness". You could have said "Pure consciousness". What can that possibly mean? Unsullied by content perhaps? But what is a consciousness that is conscious of nothing? Or, equivalently, what is a consciousness that is not conscious of anything? What can 'conscious' possibly mean in that case? Seems to me the phrase, 'not conscious of anything' has exactly the same meaning as the phrase, 'not conscious'. Are you proposing a consciousness that is not conscious? I can't make any sense of that unless you really mean, a self is conscious and a self is not conscious? This splits the 'consciousness' concept in two, one part, the self, is that-which-is-conscious and the other, that-of-which-the-self-is-conscious. If the self is a concept only then that would account for its aethereal nature. Do you see where this is going?
Dr. Tanzi is awesome .
Thanks for the insight. He can bring in words what I only could feel and never was able to explain.
Thank you doctor Tanzi for being a great scientific visionary :) The layers of consciousness now at this moment remind me of how a 3D Printer builds up a material object: layer by layer. When we are born we build our life layer by layer. At the end we are the onion and peel it of again: layer by layer :)
This is my favorite presentation style by the way. Interviewers often dance around the question when writing it down like you did would have saved all of us so much time. If I could make one rule for the world it would be -- only written questions are permitted. Half the people would discover their questions are meaningless and half of what remains would be found inconsequential. Thank you!
Lucid dreams
Yes, I possess the ability. I have been experiencing lucid dreams since I was 6 years old. Over time, I have refined my skills, allowing me to enter this unique realm each night and take full control of my dreamscapes. I can explore any place, soar through the skies, transcend earthly limits, and interact with anyone I choose. I have the freedom to go wherever I please, see anyone I wish, and even experience emotions like love and touch within this fantastical world that I shape to my liking. Despite the vividness of my dreams, I assert control and never yield, persevering even in the midst of nightmares. I persist until I mold my dreams to align with my desires, only then awakening. I believe I am among the select few, the 1%, who can consistently achieve this phenomenon multiple times each night. Thank you, and may blessings be upon all. - Dona Salina Giat Bramall
~ We are not here to create we are here to remove those barriers and limitations placed on our minds that hinder self realization ~ As we go through this purification process our awareness expands, We then gain greater insight and deeper understanding of the world around us ~ If you want to expand your awareness you need to follow your intuition ~ If you follow your ego it will limit your awareness and place barriers on your minds ability to understand the true nature of reality ~ Your ego is only interested in defining itself and creating false realities where it can take center stage ~ Creativity is part of the finite universe ~ If you want a better understanding of the infinite then you need to let go of the finite ~
Very well put.
Michael Maitri all you said was words.
Tanzi is a rare and brilliant man! Absolutely fantastic. I wish all Scientists would stop focusing on their one myopic discipline and understand that the picture of reality is made up of many many puzzle pieces. They need to put piece aside their one lil piece........and go looking for the other pieces. This will solve the puzzle of reality imo. ; )
When does the talk about lucid dreaming start?
When it is seen that the content of thought is consciousness, thought vanishes and consciousness remains. Consciousness is different from its object in that while objects vary consciousness remains constant.
Consciousness flickers into being and out on a daily basis so hardly constant.
this was awesome.
I'm still not fond of the attempt to attack empiricism and the existence of external matter.. but it does make sense, that consciousness itself is a matrix that precedes anything we can call "material/substrata"
without consciousness there is no "self" to *experience* the external world, therefore awareness is first attention..
but we can't deny the subsequent attentions, the material world is a layer to this "awareness", and must be accepted to exist even if only on the grounds of positing a "shared reality" beyond ones identification of the body..
Secret EyeSpot The notion of external matter is a product of the mind. Things may feel solid and real to us, but we have not found something called matter anywhere but in our minds
Roy S it's quite obvious you don't understand what "empiricism" is..
If it were all just "in our minds" then other creatures with similar complex nervous systems wouldn't corroborate with our intuitions..
There's a reason why we test *other* species for our understanding of behavior.. the facts we discover in relation to the supposed "mind-body" problem are not anthropocentric..
so even if you say "its all in our minds" we have no reason to doubt our experiences because we're clearly not the only minds experiencing the things we've been tested for..
Let me say the following, I'm strongly agnostic, but i loved and, strangely, understood everything he said ❤️🙏😊i usually do not pretty much get what nondualists assert
An amazingly impressive man and interview
~ One thing i would like to point out is ~ We live in a multidimensional universe ~ Most people do not realize this ~ Because they do not have an expanded awareness ~ As a persons awareness expands they start to have “ Lucid Dreams ” ~ They then become aware of these alternate realities ~ You can also learn things faster in these alternate realities ~ Because they often times move at higher frequencies through time, space, then our own ~
I would like for Dr. Tanzi to express his views now after so much progress in neuroscience. The brain IS the basis of being, of the perception of self and mind. No doubt about it. He is incorrect here about feelings (so-called qualia) and memory. The brain "stores" memories with subjective feelings as groups of neural networks in specific patterns. Memories and feelings are reconstructed based on them. I hope Dr. Tanzi has updated his beliefs based on science.
Neural wiring no doubt plays a role in the thinking process but
it is the frequency of neural discharge that encodes analogy.
Synapses permit analogies to modulate each other.
The meaning of an analogy is defined entirely by its synaptic context.
This is perfectly analogous to the way the meaning of most words
is completely derived from their context in a sentence.
Sometimes it takes a whole paragraph to express a thought.
Analogously, it takes a multitude of neuronal analogies
to constitute a complex concept.
One of the most complex is the 'self' concept.
The self is conscious of the world when analogies picked up by the sense organs
make it through a host of unconscious neural processing filters
to modulate some of the analogies that constitute the self process.
what a nice man
~ Your brain is used as a signal processor ~ Without it there would be no way to process anything ~ Insight understanding and intuition are all high level functions that are dependent on memory ~Your intuition is an extension of memory ~ it is in fact a vague recollection of past experiences ~
Many have trouble with the fact
that the only light that can be seen
is the light that enters eyes.
And when that light is encoded by the eye and
its generated signals processed by the brain,
one doesn't see light at all,
one sees only things.
He is my new favorite person
Excellent!
Brilliant stuff, thanks!
Tremendous insights
awesome reverand tanzi
Brilliant!
Cuándo tendremos sus Videos subtitulados en español ?
What was the title of the Castaneda Book he referred to ? Ego's Gift? Can'T find that on amazon
Eagle's Gift
Ask three questions from yourself after waking from a dream.
1. The observer of my dream was conscious or unconscious?
2. The observer of my dream was in my dream or in the universe?
3. Is the observer of my dream still conscious? If so then where?
Answers of these questions will enable us to understand that Consciousness exists independent of the brain.
great, thank!
I have experience lucid dreaming but being on antidepressants seem to have shut that process down: I miss those brief flashes of insight.
Read LaBerge and Robert Wagonner if you haven't, especially the sections on WILD*
I have also experienced lucid dreaming it is enjoyable but it ends soon.
Nice !
How can science grapple with something so odd and apparently immaterial as analogy?
My experience is that as soon as a dream is recognized as a dream it fades away within 10 seconds and one wakes up. It seems its not possible to continue an illusory world ones there is knowledge of its non-reality. If somebody have had other longer experiences like the ones mr chopra sell, please tell me.
Daniel Edberg hey mate, its down to a discipline and practise and dedication. You can find a lot of info online but here is a summary:
1. Write down every dream you can remember every morning
2. as you go to bed, read these dreams and think about them
3. after you have a good amount of dreams, highlight the things in them that COULD NOT happen in the "real" world, these are your dream signs
4. when anything similar to these dream signs happens in real life, question yourself, am I dreaming and try and wake up
5. Ask yourself often during the day if it is a dream, eventually you will be asking in your dreams if it is a dreamand becoming more aware of your dreams being dreams, it will start with you waking up when you realise, but eventually you will become lucid.
6. Things that help - a lot of clean water and tea during your days, no drugs or alchohol, meditation and talking about your dreams.
It is possible to stay longer, one trick is to turn around in your dream. Another method is try to keep yours eyes open, but as you say without training it is almost impossible to stay more than a few seconds.however sometimes you may be triggered in a dream, that you are dreaming,in this type of lucid dream it is possible to remain in the lucid state for a while longer. If you are very lucky you might get an invitation, and get a vision.these are unforgettable.
Paul Harrison Thanks Paul. I'll give it a try!
Trinity Lo-Fi Official Thanks!
If you are able to hold a dream, it becomes reality.Since there is noo difference between the real world and dream world, except for the time lag induced by physical existence( Start Finish). I can bring down eagles from the sky.
Awesome with a capital A
Genius
Somehow I get the feeling lucid dreaming =lsd :)
Aware and conscious are synonyms.
You said, "Pure awareness".
You could have said "Pure consciousness".
What can that possibly mean?
Unsullied by content perhaps?
But what is a consciousness that is conscious of nothing?
Or, equivalently,
what is a consciousness that is not conscious of anything?
What can 'conscious' possibly mean in that case?
Seems to me the phrase, 'not conscious of anything'
has exactly the same meaning as the phrase,
'not conscious'.
Are you proposing a consciousness that is not conscious?
I can't make any sense of that unless you really mean,
a self is conscious
and
a self is not conscious?
This splits the 'consciousness' concept in two,
one part, the self, is that-which-is-conscious and
the other, that-of-which-the-self-is-conscious.
If the self is a concept only then that would account for its aethereal nature.
Do you see where this is going?
▶ Evolution of the Brain, #Consciousness and Lucid Dreaming - Rudolph Tanzi
ua-cam.com/video/5LKFOiC8wag/v-deo.html ~Pub Oct 20, 2014
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