How To Make A Downspout Cleanout Connector - PVC vs Corrugated
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- Опубліковано 10 вер 2024
- We show you how to make a cleanout connector from PVC and Corrugated pipe. PVC doesn't need to be glued to be watertight. Corrugated cleanouts aren't watertight but are easier to put together.
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Please use PVC instead of corrugated pipe whenever possible because there will be a significant amount of water that will sit in the corrugated pipe, for the whole length of the pipe versus PVC, where if the PVC is sloped correctly, all of the water will drain right out and not allow roots and debris to clog it. It's more difficult to install PVC because the angles need to be exactly 90 degrees or 45 degrees or 22.5 degrees, or some combination of the above, but it's worth the extra effort to get the angles correctly dug out, to get all of that water done the pipe, instead of sitting in the pipe.
I agree.
Slope 1 bubble and totally agree. Schedule 40 PVC… That cheap stuff will almost always fail.
What about ground heave due to below freezing weather? That's why I'm using corrugated pipes that flex.
@@tomsenft7434 In freezing climates, in some situations it may be possible to bury it below the frost line. In situations where you can't, I would use gravel or other material around the pipe to reduce the impact of the ground moving. I suspect that it would still be more efficient to use schedule 40 pipe and replace it, once ground heaving busted, maybe once a decade, than using corrugated and all the ongoing problems that come with using corrugated.
Double wall corrugated has the same benefit of exiting all the water without the risk of cracking and the limitation of angles.
thank you for the video.
what sealant did you use for PVC pipes without gluing them, but connecting and holding them firm?
Good stuff
Well presented video! Thank you!
excellent and very helpful.
For the pvc there is a treaded clean up plug that works better than the grid
It looks very funny to have a grid closing the clean up access
what tape do you use to wrap the corrugated to make it leak proof?
2" Tile tape
I have a bunch of 4" wyes and tees for corrugated from a neighbor, is there a way to modify them to fit 3 in corrugated pipe?
If you wanted to use solid PVC for the horizontal portion, would it be best to use (2) 45-degree fittings instead of a single 90-degree fitting? In that way you would be able to change the angle downwards for slope/drainage?
Probably. That's just one of the reasons we believe double wall corrugated > PVC
They make a long sweep 90
Not really regarding using a 90 PVC and 45s. PVC pushes the water out extremely well compared to any corrugated.
Will a 3 inch system work? Wasn't sure if it could handle the volume of water.
@@davidgreen2857 it can work as long as you dont tie too many together
I was just about to go out and get parts for this project when i saw this question from "D" below... anyhow, I think I'll still go ahead and use solid PVC pipe with a single 90-degree curve, and try to ever-so-slightly angle it downwards... will there be enough slack at the joint to do that? My situation requires just a slight downhill slope, the pipe is a short (7 ft) straight run that exits into a rain garden. Thoughts?
For your stated project, you'll probably be fine but there isn't any slack in the joint. Put a level on it to make sure its going downhill.
@@drainmylawn thanks for taking the time to respond!... I'll definitely confirm with level.
where do you get skinny pvc? I cant seem to find that part?
Lowes or Home Depot carry it where we are. I now recommend using French Drain Man's downspout connector. It's purpose made, looks and works better.
This is ASTM D2729 PVC. I wouldn’t recommend it above ground because it has a thiner wall compared to SDR 35. Just use SDR 35 PVC.
Why would you want flimsy thin wall when you can get green SDR 35 for not much more?
Where do I get double walled corrugated pipe locally?
@@davidgreen2857 typically irrigation supply houses carry it
Had to do an image search to finally figure out the product used was Hercules Pro Dope.
Cool. There are many other types. I actually don't really like the pro dope one. We've been trialing it on our installations.
If you just need to buy one, Hercules Megaloc is great
@@drainmylawn Lowe's has it on their website, but it didn't exist in the store. The associate showed me a couple of other brands, but we DID find the Hercules, re-packaged in a silver metal can like the other dopes and cements. I picked a different brand but will tape each joint with Flex-seal tape once assembled so it should be fine.
Glad I saw this video though, this seems a better way to secure simple downspout drains - much more flexible if the system ever has to be re-worked or anything.
@@drainmylawn That was the one the Lowes associate finally found, hidden behind a display.
My discharge level will be the same as the downspout level, therefore my horizontal will always hold water. I do not have the luxury of transporting this water with a slope. Because of this situation, I do not want to use use corrugated, because each connection will leak and saturate the ground. If I use PVC and cement each connection and also add a pop-up at the discharge end, would this project be possible and/or successful?
What state are you in?
@@drainmylawn Chicago
Do not use a pop up. Not only are they garbage, but they won't work with very little fall. Find a way to have the end open.
You can have a slight fall of no fall with PVC, as long as the entry point is higher than the PVC exit point. I’ve tested this. Pressure builds up and pushes the water out.
As mentioned above, try not to use a pop-up.
I’ve had a popup going for fifteen years. I’m glad nobody told it it’s garbage. It has never doubted itself. Clean it out every couple of years just with my hand and refill the hole that fills with crud.
What is the pvc cement name?
It's a sealant, not cement. I believe this one is Hercules Pro Dope
But also, consider the French Drain Man downspout cleanout that was released since I created this video.
@@drainmylawn thanks man
@@drainmylawn how deep should go on the trench!
Would it be helpful to add a sump at the base of the line before the sweep going to the outlet?
It would be within reach of the cleanout and might catch debris that would otherwise run through & settle in your solid drain system.
Can I use the white solid corrogated
I'm not aware of a white corrugated pipe. If you're refering to the accordion stuff from a big box store, I strongly recommend against it.
Also, we now recommend the French Drain Man downspout adaptor.
Where can I find all those pieces
You can get them at your local hardware store. However, French Drain Man has since created a really nice cleanout coupler.
@@drainmylawndo you use fdm's vented leaf water which first connect to PVC sdr35 90 degree elbow? how do you get that to connect to corrugated without causing leaks? the vented downspout using y. fitting for corrugated has been leaking a lot. 😢
@@al70127 if you have enough room, you can connect it directly to the corrugated and bend it. The FDM vented cleanout is a male connection, so no leaks.
Why such a wide clean out? I use 4 x 4 x 1.5. 4 x 4 x 4 id big, ugly and sticks out.
For those doing the complete installation themselves, just use schedule 40. It's a lifetime repair or upgrade to your house and property. Why cut corners to save money and time when you'll have problems with corrugated down the road.
Man I can tell you’re a FDM fanboy. Just glue the pvc, it won’t end up leaking.
Lol