@benbanters absolutely Ben the way around company takes feed back is the difference in how well they will do esp in 2025 with so many companies now. It's not like it was in 90s when companies did not have to. Thank you for having us Ben its always a pleasure to hangout with you
No shame on liking some Taylor Swift songs Ben. Hard to deny that she is a gifted songwriter. There are several I like and listen to alot.. thought admittedly usually only when I'm alone in the shop. 😁
I loved this, Ben is an absolute gem of a human. These vids your putting out with more of your personality getting to shine through is a welcome change of pace, Keep it up Neeves your the man!
I have no idea if I’m correct but Ben and his team seem so nice that I really want to see them succeed. I hope Knafs continues to have fun doing this as a team through the long haul. I’m also a big fan of your quick change scales. People should be allowed to make the products they buy theirs. God speed gentleman.
I've watched a lot of @neevesknives content and i think this may have been my favorite video out of all of them. Great conversation about the evolution of Knafs with Ben who was an outstanding guest with content that was interesting and fun to watch, it felt like we were in the room hanging with you guys. Awesome stuff!
I’ve actually taken 2 of my Malibus and deepened the plunge grind with a dremel. It’s quite easy, just important to go slow so don’t end up hitting the handle or somewhere you don’t want to. Takes the knife to another level especially as a professional sharpener makes not as worried to take down to like 15- 17 degree angles. Also as neeves said before make sure u know where the stop pin hits for closing first.
What bits do you guys use? I do alot of choils and the diamond Dremel bits I've tried either wear out uber fast and/or are too small. I use diamond die grinder bits, but they're a bit too big and I only have pneumatic grinders, so I have to be in the shop to use them. The cordless dremel is super convenient and easy to use.
Awesome video! Watched both of the bladehq videos and maybe my favorite channel now, using a delica 4 thin red line. soon as I can I'm going to try and sharpen it with one of your tutorials
Ben is always open for any discussion to make himself and his company do better and understand his user base. Neeves is a good guy givig constructive criticism. Neeve knows his sharpening and his knives. Definitely a force to listen to. Love Ben. Love knafs. Love neeves. 🔥❤️🍻
Once again, thank you Jared for bringing attention to the plunge grind. I don’t know how anyone who actually sharpens knives could design a knife with a bad plunge grind.
Looks like you had a great time nerding out on knives with Ben. Definatly a fun trip your on. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
Thanks for pointing this out to Ben! I love the lander 2 but was so disappointed on how it limits sharpening. I almost contemplated adding a sharpening coil myself
I made a knife when I was 8 or 9 years old in my uncles garage with his help. It was made of copper plate. It was about 4 or 5 inches long, an 8th of an inch thick skandy grind. And had a kite string wrap on the handle with fingernail polish to seal the string. This was 57 years ago...
@@jerrykotrokois3050 no problem. I've handled it in the storefront and it was bigger than I expected but it was still surprisingly good in pocket. And it's fidgety if that matters.
I don’t know it has been addressed on the newer yippers. With mine, pulling back the crossbar lock and flipping it closed, will cause the knife blade to go down so far into the handle that it hits the back spacer and puts dents into the blade edge. My solution was to remove the backspace where it was hitting, but not after I damaged the blade pretty good.
Jeard my man.......... you had to give the man some time to talk. I think your were to exited. he would get 2 or 4 words out then you cut him off. He tried so hard to get an idea formed then to realy the info...... he tried to set u the info with the background info then to get into it...... he never got to "get into it" part. Lmao honsety id be the same way probaly. only get so much time with ben. But ben start talking and i rrrrrreaally wanted to hear what he had to say...... sure enough... ole Jeard jump into there. lmao Love the video some points was a little furstriating cause i really wanted him to finish. But you also have a lot..... aaaaa llloootttt of knife info so its two really intelligent knife masters talking about..... well knives lmao so its 100mphs . Maybe next time goo a little slower Jeard is a fast moving get the info out there quickly, Ben is a more lay background info, set the foundation and then launch the info. Both methods yeild the same result ...... really good info, but maybe let ben go through his way of getting the info out there next time. hahahaha again not ragging on anyone cause ya'll suck quite the oppiste. maybe just a little food for thought for next time, because hopefully there is a next time. Awesome seeing ya'll two together just BS'ing about knives. Great video borther looking forward to more!!!
@@drborg1460 I'm sorry it came off that way, by this time we were together for a couple hours or more so I think we were just hitting it off. I will try and remember that for next time I do appreciate the feedback and I'm always working to do better.
Out here doing the lord's work confronting makers face to face on the plunge grind 😂 We need to find a way for you to sit down with every major designer and the in house guys from every major knife company until they have no excuses for ignorance to the issue 😅
A relative newbs observation. Yeah, no sharpening choil makes for a smile at the plunge grind and maybe on a $1k knife that would wound me dearly. On a $100 knife, I do not care. A large sharpening choil which I see more and more of these days makes a knife a pita to slice up cardboard. Tradeoffs I suppose.
@@DeerUNIT42 it's still a plunge grind, it's just a very sharp transition from one thickness to another. The 'plunge' is the name given to the transition area of thicknesses. Are you thinking of a 'sharpening choil', a notch at the heel of the edge?
The blade stock is flat, the bevel is.. a bevel. So its impossible not to have a plunge grind. Unless you bevel it the entire length I guess with no flat area.
Such a pleasure, Jerad! Thanks for having me on. And seriously, thanks for the feedback. That makes us a better all-around company.
Ben you are the coolest
@benbanters absolutely Ben the way around company takes feed back is the difference in how well they will do esp in 2025 with so many companies now. It's not like it was in 90s when companies did not have to. Thank you for having us Ben its always a pleasure to hangout with you
No shame on liking some Taylor Swift songs Ben. Hard to deny that she is a gifted songwriter. There are several I like and listen to alot.. thought admittedly usually only when I'm alone in the shop. 😁
Ben seems like a cool dude👍
@@OUTDOORS55 he's a great guy for sure
I loved this, Ben is an absolute gem of a human. These vids your putting out with more of your personality getting to shine through is a welcome change of pace, Keep it up Neeves your the man!
Two of my favorite knife guys! Jerad and Ben, the collab I've always wanted!
I have no idea if I’m correct but Ben and his team seem so nice that I really want to see them succeed. I hope Knafs continues to have fun doing this as a team through the long haul. I’m also a big fan of your quick change scales. People should be allowed to make the products they buy theirs. God speed gentleman.
I've watched a lot of @neevesknives content and i think this may have been my favorite video out of all of them. Great conversation about the evolution of Knafs with Ben who was an outstanding guest with content that was interesting and fun to watch, it felt like we were in the room hanging with you guys. Awesome stuff!
That's amazing to hear I'm hoping to have a lot more of these this year
2 bathrooms, baller status 🙌🏽
Absolutely BIG BALLER STATUS
I'm not saying we've arrived, but we're on our way. ;)
I’ve actually taken 2 of my Malibus and deepened the plunge grind with a dremel. It’s quite easy, just important to go slow so don’t end up hitting the handle or somewhere you don’t want to. Takes the knife to another level especially as a professional sharpener makes not as worried to take down to like 15- 17 degree angles. Also as neeves said before make sure u know where the stop pin hits for closing first.
Exactly
What bits do you guys use? I do alot of choils and the diamond Dremel bits I've tried either wear out uber fast and/or are too small. I use diamond die grinder bits, but they're a bit too big and I only have pneumatic grinders, so I have to be in the shop to use them. The cordless dremel is super convenient and easy to use.
Awesome video! Watched both of the bladehq videos and maybe my favorite channel now, using a delica 4 thin red line. soon as I can I'm going to try and sharpen it with one of your tutorials
That boujee banter is by far my favorite so far!
Ben is always open for any discussion to make himself and his company do better and understand his user base. Neeves is a good guy givig constructive criticism. Neeve knows his sharpening and his knives. Definitely a force to listen to. Love Ben. Love knafs. Love neeves. 🔥❤️🍻
@@Alexander210 👊 🙏
This video was pretty cool! Thank you Jerad and Ben for all what you do!!!! Please keep up the great work.
The first thing Jared talks about choil size . That man is on a mission.
Once again, thank you Jared for bringing attention to the plunge grind. I don’t know how anyone who actually sharpens knives could design a knife with a bad plunge grind.
Enjoyed this! Ben and Zack got me going on a knife life back some time ago.
Keep doing these Jared! Love seeing the community come together. Great work!
@@fulton1688 🙏
Ben is a nice man Jerad always good to hear him talking knives.
Looks like you had a great time nerding out on knives with Ben. Definatly a fun trip your on. Thanks for the great vid and keep making sharp things fun and enjoyable
A great interview/get-together from both Ben and Neeves. Thanks Guyz. Why do I want ice cream all of the sudden? ....
Those mountains are beautiful 🔥
Messing up the plunge grind IS a deal breaker for millions of real knife guys
Thanks for pointing this out to Ben! I love the lander 2 but was so disappointed on how it limits sharpening. I almost contemplated adding a sharpening coil myself
I made a knife when I was 8 or 9 years old in my uncles garage with his help. It was made of copper plate. It was about 4 or 5 inches long, an 8th of an inch thick skandy grind. And had a kite string wrap on the handle with fingernail polish to seal the string. This was 57 years ago...
Wow what a whirlwind of a trip you have me thinking what other companies you’ve talked to while on your trip!??
@henryg683 we almost got with Zach but we're gonna set that up for a later date
Very cool! Bigger fan of Ben now for how he took that. Jared representing knife people!
Absolutely love the videos on the road with other knife people great idea and very, very interesting
Huge fan of both of these guys so this was great! Jared, you're so high energy and that is a HUGE plus, but let the other person talk, bro!
More collaborations and/or content with the two of you please!
Ben totally laid back Jared amped to the max hahaha love it
Ben needs an xl knife. I would love to support him but they too small for my hands. Just one please!!
Big banter.... It's pretty big
@ I don’t know why I didn’t see it. Duh. Thanks though. Will check it out.
@@jerrykotrokois3050 no problem. I've handled it in the storefront and it was bigger than I expected but it was still surprisingly good in pocket. And it's fidgety if that matters.
2 of my favorite knife dudes in one video.
Just a ball of energy!
Awesome that you guys are hanging out together and sharing good info.
I hope you enjoyed Utah.Peace!
Yay more baby banters for me to get. I may have more Baby banters than other knives by the time they stop making them :D
Great road trip Jerad
That's awesome bro you speak truth about plunge I love it
I don’t know it has been addressed on the newer yippers. With mine, pulling back the crossbar lock and flipping it closed, will cause the knife blade to go down so far into the handle that it hits the back spacer and puts dents into the blade edge. My solution was to remove the backspace where it was hitting, but not after I damaged the blade pretty good.
It has been fixed in the new models being sold now, I just picked up a new yipper and its amazing no more hitting your blade!
BANG!
I literally JUST fixed the plunge grind issue on my Lander 3 clip point. Only thing I don't love about it.
I'd like to visit from out of state, but how's the inventory...fully stocked?
Ben is such a great guy!
Ben is my favorite knife designer
Damn jared y'all went to Utah and just whored around from blade hq to knafs love it
such a hyped intro
... and then an awesome video too... you guys seemed like old friends catching up
Jeard my man.......... you had to give the man some time to talk. I think your were to exited. he would get 2 or 4 words out then you cut him off. He tried so hard to get an idea formed then to realy the info...... he tried to set u the info with the background info then to get into it...... he never got to "get into it" part. Lmao honsety id be the same way probaly. only get so much time with ben. But ben start talking and i rrrrrreaally wanted to hear what he had to say...... sure enough... ole Jeard jump into there. lmao Love the video some points was a little furstriating cause i really wanted him to finish. But you also have a lot..... aaaaa llloootttt of knife info so its two really intelligent knife masters talking about..... well knives lmao so its 100mphs . Maybe next time goo a little slower Jeard is a fast moving get the info out there quickly, Ben is a more lay background info, set the foundation and then launch the info. Both methods yeild the same result ...... really good info, but maybe let ben go through his way of getting the info out there next time. hahahaha again not ragging on anyone cause ya'll suck quite the oppiste. maybe just a little food for thought for next time, because hopefully there is a next time. Awesome seeing ya'll two together just BS'ing about knives. Great video borther looking forward to more!!!
Yeah take a breath Jared! Let Ban talk! You sounded like you had an espresso IV plugged in dude!
@@drborg1460 I'm sorry it came off that way, by this time we were together for a couple hours or more so I think we were just hitting it off. I will try and remember that for next time I do appreciate the feedback and I'm always working to do better.
Out here doing the lord's work confronting makers face to face on the plunge grind 😂
We need to find a way for you to sit down with every major designer and the in house guys from every major knife company until they have no excuses for ignorance to the issue 😅
Another great video
I thought I was the only one that didn’t like the 940! Lol.
Hope Utah treated you well, I need to make it to Knafs soon.. I live 20 minutes away.
Love my Landers with the trout scales. BTW... They just need more in stock..hint hint
You gonna come home with some new Utah words like…darn, heck, and crap?
Utahns get damaged by naughty mouth sounds.
A relative newbs observation. Yeah, no sharpening choil makes for a smile at the plunge grind and maybe on a $1k knife that would wound me dearly. On a $100 knife, I do not care. A large sharpening choil which I see more and more of these days makes a knife a pita to slice up cardboard. Tradeoffs I suppose.
In Plainfield if you want to make a knife 🫡. Everything from grinders, mill to heat treat 🤘🏼🤘🏼 I’m a nobody lol
I like it. That was a good one
How come the price difference between a Ben knife and a Jerod knife one is affordable one is a bad financial decision
These men speak truth about the cost of blade making equipment! Minimum.$6000 with proper abrasives and steel/ handle stock
Adhesives and corby.bolts
Plunge but also, make sure the stop pin is outta the way!!!
Langit I shoulda mentioned that I will take note and reach out
Speaking of slicey dicey what's he been up to since his demise?
When's the blacke sheep coming handled it in blade show west cabt wait
Spyderco literally has no plunge grinds, like they are ground to the flat of the blade stock, no?
There's a 90° transition from full stock thickness to the full flat grind. Very crispy on Shamans, Millies, PM2s, P3s etc.
@harleynarwhal so that's not having a plunge grind, right?
@@DeerUNIT42 it's still a plunge grind, it's just a very sharp transition from one thickness to another. The 'plunge' is the name given to the transition area of thicknesses. Are you thinking of a 'sharpening choil', a notch at the heel of the edge?
The blade stock is flat, the bevel is.. a bevel. So its impossible not to have a plunge grind. Unless you bevel it the entire length I guess with no flat area.
They most certainly have an obvious plunge grind…they however lack a sharpening choil. By design according to Spyderco
Make plunge grinds great again😊
How does a knife maker NOT know about plunge grinds and proper sharpening choils?
I mean, I'm not technically a "knifemaker." I'm a "knife designer"-- there's a big difference between the two categories.
@@benbanters
Even worse...Dude....
That bougie though!
grinding jaws and licking lips..big Ph
love your enthusiasm
Are you a country rap guy?
Meep ! 😂
good
Oh I love this man!!! 🫡💪🏻
100k was spent ensuring the production run is mostly wirhout.defects