Adding External Speaker Jacks to Any Amp

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  • @vinnieirvine1365
    @vinnieirvine1365 4 роки тому +17

    Good idea for a SS amp.
    For a small tube amp though, instead of running the wires from the amp to a toggle switch it’s better to run them to a jack socket and put a jack plug on your on board speaker socket to avoid the situation where you forget to switch back to onboard speaker if you unplug the external speaker.

  • @Ivory_Mist
    @Ivory_Mist 5 років тому +10

    Good overview. I got a Yamaha THR-10 recently and it doesn't have speaker out, so I may look into doing this mod. Thanks for the video!

    • @ryankellum1713
      @ryankellum1713 4 роки тому +1

      Maldamar i have the thr10x, did you ever end up doing the mod? i’m thinking about it too

    • @p.s8950
      @p.s8950 3 роки тому

      I'm curious as to how well the ext speaker would work on a THR-10. Did you get around to that ?

    • @Ivory_Mist
      @Ivory_Mist 3 роки тому

      @@p.s8950 Never did get around to it. I moved my amp into the garage, and didn't need any external speaker to satisfy my needs.

  • @yosxtra5666
    @yosxtra5666 Рік тому +1

    You saved my life. I got wondered how to do it and you solved my problem. LOTS of thanks, and a BIG thumb for you. STAY WELL.

  • @lext4374
    @lext4374 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent how-to video. Thanks a million.

  • @glenmcarroll
    @glenmcarroll 6 місяців тому +1

    Buying a blues jr. Soon. Definitely going to do this mod. Thanks 🙏 thanks 🙏

  • @TheFreakChiken
    @TheFreakChiken 5 років тому +4

    YOU ARE AWESOME! Seriusly what a great job . Could you make one in how to add a second input for external audio ? That would be great!

  • @kennethcrickmore7858
    @kennethcrickmore7858 2 роки тому +3

    I have a Blackstar ID Core 40 watt Stereo amp with twin 4 ohm 6.5" speaker very small 915 lbs and about 16" square )s which I added a 12 pin spdt switch and 2 output jacks (stereo remember and have custom built vertical 4 X 12" cabs (also 4 ohm) to plug it into and it pushes air pretty well for a tiny digital practice amp.. cabs are 16" wide and deep and 54" tall...can stand on either side of the 100" big screen on the wall or they can be attached together side by side to mimic a full stack.. Either way they sound great. and if I plug in my heavily modded Starcaster Strat..look out...

  • @PerpetualWarMachine
    @PerpetualWarMachine 2 роки тому +6

    I've added a 1/4 inch "amp in" to a 2x12 combo at a jam space so that I can bring my own head there to use. The original plan was to add a fx loop, until I looked inside this Vox ac30vr. Looked way too complicated to do a mobile solder mod.
    Anyways, I literally just tapped into the extra set of inputs on one of the speakers itself and when we went to jam the week after, while under normal operation (I.e. nothing plugged into the amp in jack I added, just using the amp normally as a combo, my guitarist would get a crazy high pitch squeal when the distortion would kick on. Without the switch, did I change the impedance by adding the jack EVEN when nothing is plugged into it? I'm trying to learn here myself and am confused about why it is happening

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому +2

      Undo the mod - if the squeal goes away then yes you did cause it. If not, well your amp works different now or something else broke it.
      The easier way to do this is to use a Cliff Jack. When no 1/4 Inch Jack is inserted just let the unit stay stock. But when you plug in a jack the internal bars lift, cutting off the unmodified path, and you can route that signal where you like.
      In my mod the amp output flows down the inserted speaker cable and disconnects the internal speaker. The only downside is you have to be sure that wire is plugged into a functioning speaker of appropriate ohm

  • @frankperricone2065
    @frankperricone2065 2 роки тому

    I know this video is from a year ago, but hopefully you can answer my question, I just got back into playing bass again after not playing for about 20 years. I saved most of all my equipment and I have a 70s Ampeg V4B head that is a tube amp with a 2×15 cabinet that's been in my unheated garage and I know that one speaker is shot plus I know that there is a good chance that it will probably need work and it is the size of a refrigerator, and I rather not bring it in the house, to get going right away I purchased a Fender Bassman 100 combo amp with 15" speaker. When I bought the amp I knew that just the one 15" speaker would not be able to handle the amp much more past the volume past 5 but I figure that all combos had a Jack for a external speaker cabinet and did not look when bought it. So I have had the amp for a month and looked on the back of the amp and of course no external speaker jack, and is a solid state. You make it look so easy and dont know if I can do the job, and do not want to mess up the amp, and rather not buy another amp. Sorry for the long comment but would a technician do the job and about how much it would cost, just a rough estimate to how much it would cost. Thank you

  • @wittmf
    @wittmf 4 роки тому +1

    Just what I needed! Thank you!

  • @sadzidsmajkic6181
    @sadzidsmajkic6181 7 місяців тому

    Great video! I have a 40W 1x12 combo amp that I want to mod in a similar way with a switch. Is it safe to use standard 15A 250V AC DPDT switch. I don't have an idea how big is the output signal on the wires that go from the amp to the speaker. Should I be worried. I guess the switch should be able to withstand the load and not to fail in the operation. Thanks!

  • @BLACKF1R3OFFICIAL
    @BLACKF1R3OFFICIAL 5 місяців тому

    Hey Merwin, I have a Line 6 Spider V mk2 60 watt guitar amplifier but I am trying to connect it to an external speaker but it doesn't have any kind of speaker output connection at all....
    What are some ideas, tips, tricks, and information you could help me out with?

  • @JC-11111
    @JC-11111 4 роки тому +1

    Why does no one do speaker input jacks? I'm trying to add one so I can use the 12" in my Fender Mustang II combo as an external cab.

  • @johnm.4655
    @johnm.4655 4 роки тому +2

    Hello Merwin Music: I was thinking of getting a Marshall CODE100 combo amp. On the back of that amp, there's an 8ohm cabinet connection OUT jack. Scenario: If I connect that jack to, say, an external Marshall Lead 1960 cabinet, will the combo amp's internal speakers CONTINUE to work WHILE the external cabinet is connected, or will it ONLY play through the external cab when connected? I'm asking because I thought it would be cool to have a true "stereo sound" in my jam room, keeping the combo nearer me and then placing the larger 1960 4 x 12 cabinet cross the room for a big, wide sound. Comments or suggestions?

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому +1

      My guess is that either the internal speaker disconnects, or the amplifier is actually stereo and has a separate amp for the external speaker jack.

    • @johnm.4655
      @johnm.4655 4 роки тому +1

      @@MerwinMusic Thanks for the reply! I checked out the manual for the amp and, under point #26 it says, "26. SPEAKER OUTPUT (CODE100H ONLY)", so I'm not sure if one CAN even use an external cabinet jack on the combo version, as that part is unclear. I mean, why put an output jack on the combo version if it can't be used?

    • @liquidsmokemustang1537
      @liquidsmokemustang1537 2 роки тому

      @@johnm.4655 According to the page on Sweetwater, it says “has what you need to plug into a 4x12 cab for big sound”. I would say the speaker out jack is a switching jack, meaning it cuts the signal to the on-board speaker. Amps that have 2 speaker jacks like the Peavey 6505+ (one for the on-board) and one for an external cab would run both. In your case, I think you get one or the other.

  • @RPSJR100
    @RPSJR100 3 місяці тому

    Sir how can u add it to where u can run the cab by itself or run the cab with the speaker in the amp itself

  • @michaelmaison5592
    @michaelmaison5592 5 місяців тому

    Very nice dude. Great job!

  • @unlikelytruth5101
    @unlikelytruth5101 2 роки тому

    can i add a ibanez TB25R to my 67 twin reverb?
    not asking how it will sound i will judge that myself
    I have tried various ways but cant seem to get it to work loud.
    it has extra speaker jacks to the speaker of the ibanez.
    the headphone jack cancels sound
    trying to daisy chain a freak of nature

  • @edgaracevedo1921
    @edgaracevedo1921 3 роки тому +1

    Please can you tell us the list of material ?

  • @diogro80
    @diogro80 2 роки тому +1

    Good video!! In this case the line out is amplified. There is a way to get it before the amplification stage?

  • @MrPedromuriel
    @MrPedromuriel 5 років тому +9

    Is it possible to add a "line" out, where I can use both my amp's speaker and an external one?

    • @santiagomoreno696
      @santiagomoreno696 4 роки тому

      Well, yesterday I asked the same question to a guy who builds amps and guitar pedals and he told me that it would overload the amplifier and burn it (at least the TDA2030A that's inside the Marshall MG10CF), basically it wouldn't be able to handle both loads, so maximum a single 12" speakers for these small solid state amps.

    • @Mwhbmnabjms
      @Mwhbmnabjms 4 роки тому +3

      It all depends, u need to calculate first the amp spec, if requirements not exceed 4 ohm speaker means u can use a single 4ohm speaker or double 8ohm speaker or 4x 16ohm speaker. And let say the watt of the amp is 50w so meaning u cant use speaker below 50w . U can. Use >50w like 100w, 150w, 200w etc the nearest is the perfect so the amp can support speaker in full range. hope u understand my explanations

  • @fernskunk
    @fernskunk Рік тому

    question! if you add the speaker input on the amp does the sound only play on the cab or both ?

  • @Arcturian1111
    @Arcturian1111 3 роки тому +5

    The speaker wires go to the center of the dpdt switch, I tried your way it was totally wrong. You need to fix that on your video.

  • @edgaracevedo1921
    @edgaracevedo1921 3 роки тому +1

    Great video and can you tell us what jack , wires and toggle switch you use for this video please and thank you so much

    • @skoobie2962
      @skoobie2962 3 роки тому +1

      It looks like he just used a standard mono jack and a dpdt toggle switch. Any speaker wire will work or 24 awg wire should be cool.

  • @brendanlindsaywebb4932
    @brendanlindsaywebb4932 3 роки тому +2

    Hi, thanks for the video. Does it matter what the contact current rating of the switch is?

  • @michaelthomas9992
    @michaelthomas9992 5 місяців тому

    Does the negative on your speaker Jack ground to the cabinet?

  • @o_o0_x914
    @o_o0_x914 2 роки тому

    Can you show us how to add a Speakon jack for a guitar head that only has 1/4 out jacks?

  • @Leemuzhko
    @Leemuzhko Рік тому

    I'm adding ext speaker jacks to my amps on a daily basis ))) I've modded Marshall Reverb 30, Marshall 8040, Fender RocPro 1000 (added second jack as it is on the head and master volume knob). But I'm using switching jacks instead discreet switch.

  • @davidtrost4117
    @davidtrost4117 3 роки тому +1

    I'd like to add an external speaker jack to my amp that has an 8 ohm speaker. Without the speaker plugged in of course I'd be at 8 ohms - I want to stay at 8 ohms with the external speaker plugged in - so 8 ohm load either way. How can I wire my jack to do that? Maybe series-parallel somehow? Thanks!

  • @carlfrei2419
    @carlfrei2419 Рік тому

    I used a Switchcraft 12A jack so this is all you will need no extra switch. My only issue is I had to insulate the switch from the chasse with 2 plastic nuts or it buzzed. Not sure why

  • @pauliezx5134
    @pauliezx5134 2 роки тому

    What is exact double pole switch you used?

  • @elioalcala4371
    @elioalcala4371 3 роки тому +1

    Wonderful/1- can I HAVE THE 3 Speaker WORKING?
    2-What about Ω compatibility?
    3-aún special DPDT BRANDS?

  • @RPSJR100
    @RPSJR100 3 місяці тому

    Yes sir my amp tech used the input Jackson my seats Silvertone Model 1449 that I pulled out of my suitcase that I got a great price on there r 2 input jacks on this sweet little tube amps and he turned one into the cabinet jack only took him seconds I like these cab jacks on all my combo amps caus they sound so much better to me I think Thanx Richard from Pittsburgh Pa

    • @davidallen346
      @davidallen346 2 місяці тому

      Hi, can you ask you amp tech, is it correct to connect a 4x12 8ohm cabinet into a 1x4 ohm / 2x8 ohm Marshall DSL 100 watt head, speaker output? I was told by amp tech, that this was correct but he was very upset about it. I need a second opinion. Thanks!

  • @spmartin
    @spmartin 3 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the video!! What brand of double pole, double switch did you use? Thanks!

  • @WoobVision
    @WoobVision 7 місяців тому

    What if I want to use the internal and the external speakers at the same time?

  • @antonisgiaglis2051
    @antonisgiaglis2051 4 роки тому +1

    Is it possible to a do this mod to a stereo micro amp, such as the Laney mini-st? I'm thinking to add the jack to just one of the channels (let's say the left one), but what about the other one? disconnect it or leave the internal speaker?

  • @OneMarkBand
    @OneMarkBand 4 роки тому +10

    Why not just add a switching jack? That way if you forget to change the toggle and it is not plugged in to an external speaker the sound is automatically directed to the internal amp speaker.

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому +3

      Mainly because I didn't have a switching jack on hand...

    • @cfh13
      @cfh13 2 роки тому +1

      Thats what i came here to learn. i want to do that to a Peavey Vip 2 amp. I was going to replace the speaker but if i can plug into my mesa 2x12 or 4x12 that'd be great.

  • @davidfreiboth1360
    @davidfreiboth1360 5 років тому +3

    So I suspect this is a dumb question but here goes. Why not run the outside speaker cab from the headphone jack?

    • @neocollective
      @neocollective 5 років тому +5

      Headphone jacks have very low output, enough for tiny speakers but not enough for a guitar speaker. On the same token, if you connect your headphones to the external speaker output you'll instantly blow off the headphones and your eardrums if you happen to have them on.

    • @simoncab1362
      @simoncab1362 4 роки тому +3

      surely you can go from headphone output to a powered frfr speaker and that would end up virtually what you have here without voiding warranty i was caught on my katana air between doing what you have done to a normal cab or hesdphone out direct to powered speaker like a line 6 or headrush

  • @brian95240
    @brian95240 Рік тому +1

    What would be done in the case of adding this jack to a Positive Grid Spark 40 amp? It uses (x2) 4" 4ohm speakers. Does the toggle switch need to be wired any differently for such efficient speakers, or does it remain like this?
    Also, does it matter if an external cabinet (it plugs into) has (x2) larger 8 ohm speakers, or is it OK since 4 ohms is more powerful anyways?
    Thank you for your help.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому +1

      Trace the wiring. Is it wired in series or parallel? Ideally your switch would have amp input to common middle and one throw would go to the internal speaks and another to new speakers.
      Regarding changing the Ohms.
      Watts = power = volts x amps
      The power is measured at a given impedance (similar to resistance) and this is effectively limiting the current. So if you don't match the impedance the speaker coil into working at its best.
      Using higher impedance will reduce flow and things sound quieter.
      Decreasing the impedance will result in more flow - it will likely sound louder but at the same time could melt the coil - speaker stops working. So try to keep impedance at same rated value.
      If you add speakers to same amp bear in mind you can put speakers in series (impedance sums) or parallel (new IMP = (A x B) / (A + B) ). 2 similar speakers => 2 A for series and A / 2 for parallel.
      Hence why I said trace the wiring. In a multi speaker cabinet you can have mixture or series AND parallel. If you are unsure then do some Googling or ask on a forum. Better than thinking you got it ... turn up the amp ... melted coil or blown speaker.

    • @brian95240
      @brian95240 Рік тому +1

      @@stephenhookings1985 Thank you for the detailed reply! You taught me alot. Here begins my pilgrimage for amp building ideas LOL. I appreciate what you do and will eventually learn more here.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому +1

      @@brian95240 have you seem this dudes video series? ua-cam.com/video/-eeC1XyZxYs/v-deo.html
      I will add a video on my channel regarding cliff Jack - how I use them. And why I didn't bother with my 4 ohm Orange combo.
      Also next week I have scheduled a video testing a 4x100w at 8ohm cabinet with a 15w at 8 ohm Laney Cub 12r. Long story short - all the time I put into R & D of impedance matching, amp class, eq, cabinet etc, which bass head ... screw that. The guitar valve amp produces MORE than enough volume and bass - I put it next to the amp cos I am worried those Low frequencies are rattling the tubes - don't want to shake those filaments.

    • @brian95240
      @brian95240 Рік тому +1

      @@stephenhookings1985 Thank you for the reference! I'll check out your channel for that video, once it is added.

    • @stephenhookings1985
      @stephenhookings1985 Рік тому

      @@brian95240 I made a new on to try to explain - it is processing and should be out in the next hour - I got a lot of "wrath" from the Mrs ..."we have guests coming tomorrow - you you moving MORE gear into the dining room" ... it's sound engineering
      ua-cam.com/video/3ePpFRx9DPE/v-deo.html

  • @geertvanassche8447
    @geertvanassche8447 5 років тому +2

    Hi , one question , if you are using the extern speaker and you want to go back to the internal speakers but you forget to change the DPDT to the internal speakers ,what means the THRC is running without speakers , is that not dangerous to harm the amp ?

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  5 років тому +1

      No load on non-tube amps is not a problem. Disconnecting a load with the amp running isn't great and could be an issue, so if you don't switch or disconnect while it's on you shouldn't have a problem.

  • @Renegadrian
    @Renegadrian Рік тому

    old video but I'd like to post my 2c too. Yes it's easy to add an external speaker jack on amps like these. switch is not mandatory if you use a switched jack (that will turn off int speaker the moment you plug ext cable in)

    • @glenmcarroll
      @glenmcarroll 6 місяців тому +1

      I have that setup on my champ. The jack had to be put far inside the cab. It’s a pain to plug it in and out. Going to try this. It’s easier to switch on the fly Cheers.

  • @elioalcala4371
    @elioalcala4371 3 роки тому

    I have fender sidekick 35/I WANT TO HOOK IT TO 2XSPEAKERS HQL-545 CAR 4Ω each 150 watt/ can I HAVE THE 3 WORKING? WITH THAT DPDT SWITCH?

  • @RPBarrett
    @RPBarrett 5 років тому +3

    I've never had a amp with a line-out before.
    Would they normally work in this way (i.e. internal speaker OR external Cabinet/PA), or would they normally work as internal speaker AND external Cab/PA)
    Thanks in advance.

  • @santiagomoreno696
    @santiagomoreno696 3 роки тому +1

    I modded one of these MG10CD Marshalls to add an external speaker output with a DPDT switch to change between internal/external speaker, the mod works as expected but after having done that now when I'm in the OD channel, the gain potentiometer also increases volume, so I can not use it with full gain at low volumes, and the volume knob doesn't do much until it gets to about 9 o'clock, but even at 0 there is still volume coming out of whatever speaker I'm using (either internal or external), do you have any idea on what could be going on?
    I also drilled two holes to the front and extended the clipping LEDs there so that I can see when I'm playing how the LEDs turn on and off, that also works as well, I'n not sure if that would have anything to deal with the volume issue. Thanks beforehand.

    • @elioalcala4371
      @elioalcala4371 3 роки тому

      Ir may be remates yo having a LOGARITMIC POT ON YOUR VOL SO IT STARTS TO KICK THE GAIN AT 9 OCLOCK

  • @CalitranoN
    @CalitranoN 2 роки тому

    Do you have the parts on amazon or other that we can find to try it? I want to do it on my Marshall Code!

  • @CalitranoN
    @CalitranoN 3 роки тому +2

    Modding the Marshall CODE for external speaker would be huge, everyone says the speaker that comes with it is not good!

  • @ratonlucho
    @ratonlucho 2 роки тому

    Does this turns your amp into a Cab??? OR is it tu turn it into a Head, so you can connect another cab?

  • @ADTGuitars
    @ADTGuitars 4 роки тому +1

    Hey man can you have a good wiring diagram in the description

  • @manningcustom
    @manningcustom Рік тому

    how about an unpowered output? a direct out to run to another amp

  • @upside-down6211
    @upside-down6211 3 роки тому

    How to mod footswitch for any amp ?

  • @bernarino5942
    @bernarino5942 4 роки тому

    Interesting. But is it possible to connect a head tube amplifier to a combo amp in order to use only the speaker, sparing with buying a cab alone? I own the same kind of amplifier, a Park G25R with a 10" speaker.

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому +1

      As long as the speaker impedance and wattage is right for the amplifier. I have plugged a couple of heads into the speaker inside my fender hot rod deluxe.

    • @bernarino5942
      @bernarino5942 4 роки тому +1

      @@MerwinMusic with your connection, you keep the amp active and you choose to either use the cab speaker or an external speaker. But what I'd like to do is keeping the speaker active in any case but being able to deactivate my amplifier to connect a head to the speaker.

  • @diegoderas9897
    @diegoderas9897 3 роки тому

    This is sick, has anyone done this sort of mod to a Roland JC? I'm tempted to get a jc 22 and put it through my 212 cab.

  • @cfh13
    @cfh13 2 роки тому

    I came here to figure out if i can add just a switchable 1/4 jack to my peavey vip 2 combo.

  • @vicenteortiz8521
    @vicenteortiz8521 4 роки тому +1

    Is it possible to make the both speaker sound at the same time?

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому

      Not really. If you hooked up both in either series or parallel then you would either double or half the resistance.

    • @theoryofthirds
      @theoryofthirds 3 роки тому +1

      Couldn’t you use an on/on/on switch to have the speaker and the out jack running at the same time?

  • @Drunkenmast
    @Drunkenmast 4 роки тому

    Does it matter if the 1/4" jack is stereo or mono?

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому

      It only need to be mono. if it's stereo then you just don't hookup the ring.

  • @santiagomoreno696
    @santiagomoreno696 4 роки тому

    Awesome, just what I want to do to my MG10CF

    • @gerrydaly5409
      @gerrydaly5409 3 роки тому

      Hi, I also have a MG10CF- did you ever end up doing this mod?

    • @santiagomoreno696
      @santiagomoreno696 3 роки тому +1

      @@gerrydaly5409 No, I sold the MG10 but I could help you do it with yours

    • @gerrydaly5409
      @gerrydaly5409 3 роки тому +2

      @@santiagomoreno696 That would be awesome, thanks! I'll send you a private message now

    • @santiagomoreno696
      @santiagomoreno696 3 роки тому

      @@gerrydaly5409 I got a Marshall MG-10CD and did the mod to it

    • @gerrydaly5409
      @gerrydaly5409 3 роки тому +1

      @@santiagomoreno696 Wow awesome! are you on Facebook or how can I contact you

  • @deanmccaskill5495
    @deanmccaskill5495 3 роки тому

    I want to do this to a blues jr

  • @kaybhee6
    @kaybhee6 4 роки тому +2

    1/4 switched female jacks exist too

  • @Stevie_evie
    @Stevie_evie 5 місяців тому

    Why not just add a switching jack? When nothing is plugged into it, the signal will go to the internal speaker. When a speaker cable is plugged into it, the signal will be routed to it, and onto the external cabinet. No need for a manual "internal/external" switch.

  • @ADTGuitars
    @ADTGuitars 4 роки тому

    Please respond man I cant follow the diagram that you provided and I dont want to break my amp

    • @MerwinMusic
      @MerwinMusic  4 роки тому +1

      The website article goes into a little more detail and has a pretty good picture of how to hook it up.

  • @modscientist9793
    @modscientist9793 Рік тому

    If you use a switched jack instead of just that standard one, you wouldn't need the switch.

  • @Motocicleiros
    @Motocicleiros 4 роки тому

    The converted radio looks like a small microwave oven.