@@Realtor1983 they should have took the 50% and the minimum automation but that is no longer on the table. As time slips by the food rots and the robots are on the way...
thats the key of this.. also some systems allow container stacking of up to 14 ... none automated to a max of what 5 or 6? for quick n and out .. (long term storage goes higher but i slow af)
I feel more comfortable driving next to a semi truck that is completely automated instead of being driven by an idiot who obviously doesn't deserve their CDL.
Hahahaha I had a brand new semi tractor three years later the electronics are short-circuiting the mechanics doesn't know how to fix it. Automation are only useful on straight road and good weather. We have tractors that have steering assistance but sometimes that shutoff around corners or when the weather is bad.
There is a serious issue of every company expecting every other company to provide the consumers with income to spend. What is taught in business school is to be greedy, there is no teaching of responsibility to society. A casino has zero output of product and nothing physical is created that benefits society, it is a mathematical model to strip as much income away from a community as possible, as legally allowable, with no resulting transferable asset having been created from lesser materials into something of higher value. Emotion and misconception of statistical odds, feelings of dependence on luck and chance for a happy life. Thats all it outputs to society. Nice leadership we have.
@@Gobrowns123 How are you gonna buy anything when a robot takes your job? And why would a company sell you something cheaper when you're buying stuff now at its current price? They want to make money.
@@dirkslasher1876 yes the entire point of a business is to make money. In order to make money the business has to sell the product for more than it took to produce/handle it. The only way that prices could possibly come down for the long turn, is if the business lowers there cost of production. Pretty simple.
@@Gobrowns123 Okay. Make sense. By the way, I haven't seen a drop in grocery store prices since the introduction of self check out, have you? Also, I mind if my job is replaced by a robot, how about you?
@@dirkslasher1876 That’s because the government is printing trillions. If it weren’t for technology prices would be a lot higher than they already are. If the government got out of the way you would see a massive gain in the standard of living over the long run. And as far as losing your job to a robot, you really think we should pay people whose jobs are redundant and completely raise the cost of living and lower the living standard? A bunch of people who made and worked on horse buggies lost their jobs when the car was invented, should we have not invented the car? Should we just of kept paying them for the hell of it through taxation? You obviously don’t know anything about economics, like the rest of this country. Maybe now would be a good time to educate yourself, because it is ignorance like this that is going to bring massive inflation In the next ten years
No, people will buy the products inside the container. What is this question even about? Are robots going to buy the food that delivered by autonomous food delivery service? like what? why do you think the robot will buy the product LOL
Those jobs are gonna be lost because of automation it will affect the entire city neighborhoods small businesses it will have a range of jobs loss there can not come back
The ILWU doesn’t care when they strike/blackmail the local, state, and National economy. The ILWU is corrupt and inefficient, we need to automate the ports now.
True, but look at what the port workers are doing to the ports on the East and Gulf coasts. Their strike has brought shipping to a standstill. They are basically blackmailing the country. We can't allow that to happen.
As someone who is in Houston rn I can confirm that everyone in the warehouse is hoping that strike won’t last long the facts are gulf coast is taking a stand against ai I respect it
Of course it always happen, but the US has the talents so no worries. The us ports are not even in the top 50 ports in the world in terms of both productivity and tech becasue they run on an old technology, even china ports automated. The longshoremen is dragging the whole us economy into stagnation and communism.
Automation is unavoidable. The govt needs to be ready. Every cargo container handled by a robot should be charged a very small tax, and that money should be used for job training etc etc.
@@justing6594your asking for too much! McDonalds is doing fine because realistic people know thats a gateway job unless your a manager. Unions ask for too much and deliver too little. Raises should be on an individual basis,not union wide. Your socialist pigs! You love other peoples money.
@@VictorianMaid99 It is overpriced if you ask a CEO but not overpriced if measured against inflation. They are one of the few jobs that has stayed about even with inflation. Their wage is where all other jobs should be if those other jobs also stayed even with inflation. Why haven't other jobs stayed even with inflation? they didn't have a union to fight for them.
Shameful how people applauding at all these jobs getting cut due to automation, one must realize that your degree won’t make you immune to this , soon they’ll replace surgeons, teachers, bankers, dentists etc... you’re better off saving and starting your own business before it’s too late
Surgery is not that easy to replace yet it has a lot of robotics already established in the operating theater for 20 years. Bank tellers were turned into ATM servicing worker 20 years ago. They don't get replaced, they got retrained to embrace the change. The problem is the US makes it hyper expensive to learn a new job skill set and the education institution do not provide graduates with the skill sets key industries are screaming for. The disconnect between education and industries is very severe in this country compared to northern Europe. Most people do not have what it takes to start up and sustain their own business otherwise everyone would be doing it.
Its time ILWU gets out of the ports of LA & LB im a truck driver working at these ports and we get treated like shit by these lazy arrogant union dock workers!!!! So i support 100% automation!!!! It can take up to 9 hrs just to get one load out of the port and dealing with lazy dockworkers, at LBCT which is automated it only takes 30 mins to terminate the empty container and get the loaded one out!!! Its time for a change and 100% automation is the future!!!!!
You saying that now Mr truck driver until y’all accident prone asses started getting laid off cause companies go to automated trucking Because y’all cost insurance companies billions in freight loss and vehicle damage and total losses Remember everything comes down hill so when the docks are fully automated they gone find a way to get rid of yo ass to
The hold up it’s getting the containers out of the Port of LA on trucks. Somebody at some time stopped trucks from running 24 hours a day. Anybody know who that was?
I, for one, LOVE the new self service kiosks that replaced all the minimum wage workers at fast food restaurants. Now the people that still have jobs can make $15/hr. Its long overdue
@@TecSanento That is an excuse pushed by people that want to continue paying for slave labor, or lobbied politicians or media to parrot it to the citizens.
Loss of income to families and tax raises to maintain those robots. These are the ripple effect to tge economy. It doesn't matter to the majority of people until their job starts to mention robots in the workplace to replace them. How would you feel about that 🤔 Not to mention the rise of prices for economy products. It never goes down on up. How would you afford those products for your family?
Not really. You just have to learn new skills and advaced yourself, maybe learn a new skill on operating the robots or even make the robots. People who will not learn new skills and advaced will be easily replaced. That's how it is. That's just the reality. The march of Innovation and technology are unstoppable
Wow, we are way behind other countries. We are supposed to embrace the loss of thousands of good paying jobs. I'd love to know what those other countries did for their displaced workers. I know progress is necessary, but where do people/workers fit into the equation?
Automation sounds wonderful - until it's YOUR turn to be replaced by AI. Truckers who think it is great to get rid of longshoreman haven't thought this through - how long do truckers have before trucking is fully automated? Waiters, bank tellers, even doctors and surgeons - all replaceable.
Whether we like it or not, it’s coming. What we need is a progressive government and leadership that understands and prepares for that world, such as starting to discuss universal basic income, etc.
New jobs will arise. Imagine if we had this mentality over the last 200 years and nothing changed. SMH this is a good thing. Cheaper goods for everyone.
Anyone else notice that this guy walks in at 00:42... without shoes, only with gray socks on his feet??? Dude, did you forget to turn on the "Shoes Selector Robot" when you dressed up for this interview XD?
A lot of homes I’ve been in especially drs or professors don’t want you to wear shoes on their premise. It keeps a lot of the dirt that your shoes track in off the floor.
It Never happened like they wanted it Production and Numbers went way down And also the Port can buy Green Vehicles and have Longshoremen drive them so no Jobs are lost. People have families to feed But Nope Big Rich Companies don't care about that
How come the news story doesn't mention the human impact, the hundreds of family breadwinners who will lose their jobs? Or the trickle down effect on the port community businesses losing all the income from those families? Or that humans doing the same work are almost twice as productive? Or that humans continue to work even in adverse weather conditions? Or that humans can't be hacked and hijacked, or cyber ransomed like one of the major shipping companies was in 2017?
Well if a machine can work 24/7 and work during any weather (sorry, but nothing short of a hurricane can stop a machine from knowing where it needs to go) then all your "productivity" as a human goes out the window in favor of saving money. If a machine only saves the company 5% now, with a clear path toward more money being saved with AI advancements, then it is guaranteed they will make that investment.
There still will always be a demand for truck drivers to get it from the port to the consumer, or if that is not desirable vocation, maybe build more cargo rail lines to transition jobs to construction and railroad management
I don't like the idea of automation taking someones job. But in this case I can see it being necessary since the corrupt unions have bottlenecked the ports for decades.
Yea true but hey they use robots in manufacturing plants and they still have people working on them and on production lines and stuff could be the same case as this. People are going to need to fix and maintain theses machines specially if there going to be running 24-7 a robot is just a machine a machine that needs to be maintained and worked on and watched robots should make are jobs easier machines are always going to need a person to operate them.
A better question is how has Medoza's workers been preparing for automation? Have they been taking classes or getting certified? If they are waiting to see if they have a job or not, then prepare only if necessary, then if they find themselves obsolete, then it's on them. They all saw this coming.
It is efficiency. If you have unions that bully employers into paying more than workers are worth, that is inefficiency. Maybe these guys should stop acting like a cartel and they might be able to retain their jobs.
@@izdatsumcp Minimum wage in the US is only what? 7.50 8 bucks? Did that stop corporations from sending jobs to China so they can pay Chinese workers $250 a month vs $250 a week here? An American union telling a foreign company worth 50 Billion dollars we will only work for a livable wage is hardly bullying and has nothing to do with automation. They are doing what most corporations do coming up with ways to cut costs and be greedy. People like you may think longshoreman are overpaid until you hear the horror stories about the dangers of the job and get woke to the fact that most longshoreman actually don't make as much you may think based on what you read in misinformed news articles..
@@ybe87 Lots of things are pretty wrong here. Sending jobs to China is silly because anything people consume must be paid for with production. Anything that is imported, therefore, is paid for with production. Trade, on net, cannot send jobs overseas. The argument that the Chinese are paid less and so they are more competitive is wrong too. They might have lower wages but Americans are also more productive. Also, Chinese are more productive in everything (as are lots of other countries): by rights, literally every job should go overseas. That obviously doesn't happen so your theory of wages' impact on jobs going overseas is wrong. A living wage is an arbitrary concept. Lots of people lived on a lot less in the past and, in the future, will live on a lot more. The concept has no meaning as people's expectations change. Unions are bullies but let's talk about automation. Yes, automation comes anyway but unions and things like minimum wage can precipitate it. And, no, automation is not corporations being greedy: cost cutting is what leads to a better standard of living for us all. I don't particularly have an opinion on longshoremen - I just have an opinion on unions. A union's entire purpose is to push wages above market rate.
Couldn't be more wrong. All imported cargo is taxed as it leaves the ship by the federal government. This port is a gold mine for the federal government and the State of California gets a nice cut too. This is part of the reason why the State of California is the 3rd largest economy on the planet.
That’s true they only see from their point of view we truckers are the ones who suffer the most waiting hours in lines up to 8-9hrs for one load and automated only takes 30mins!! So i support automation
@@Lacheyenona72 That's until autonomous trucks hit the road an the need for you truckers is eliminated as well, because you must realize what really should be common sense. Automation starts at the ports, then it moves on to the only thing left once that's finished, the unruly truckers. Once automation is perfected, huge corporations will come in and start buying freight companies and won't have any issues investing in fleets of automated trucks within the blink of an eye you'll be passing by them looking and they'll be lined up in lots waiting to take your job.
Less jobs, more people. More money in the pocket of the owners. Rich get richer. Automation will give too much power to the rich. Hopefully govermant has plan.
It seems to me the local union got screwed by the union leadership again!!! They need to fired or quit the union cause their membership dues are keeping the union leadership with a job!!!
Workers are their own worst enemy. Like it or not capitalism is based on a society having a working class that are clearly above poor but clearly below middle class. The unions demand wages and benefits that raise their members to middle class. The capitalists then invest in technology to eliminate those jobs that have become too expensive. It's a vicious circle. Everyone wants more pie. Everyone also wants lower prices. No economic system can provide both. Technology wins every time because it is more efficient than workers. It may break and eventually it will require maintenance but it never strikes for higher wages or more benefits and it never does a shitty job to get even when it doesn't get them.
What is wrong with these people,,more jobs gone,,less taxes for government,,so there gon a raise our taxes and not care that families they just fired are on the streets, and we are supposed to be ok with this,no i dont think so,ill admit there cool but not at the expense of families loosing everything
Ok people its called progress. Ships use to have sails and swithced to diesel engines, mules use to becused to pull wagons loaded with cargo now trucks do it. Ypure goingbto like it because whatever ypu order will getvto you faster.
So What's your point? You're blaming people who didn't waste their time on a worthless college degree. Don't throw shame on trade skilled workers that make six figures without a college degree
Unfortunately, college isn't going to make things better. If everyone goes to college, then workers with college degrees become more common, and therefore the value of a worker with a college degree decreases. We are already seeing this happen today, as only 27% of college graduates have a job related to their field of study, and 44% of college grads have a job that does not require a college degree. In addition to this, the majority of these people take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt that will take decades to pay back. If more people start going to college, this will only get worse.
@reshi p Problem is this is not true. Low key I think it was the corporations that put that false narrative out there. Most longshoreman don't make 6 figures at all and the one's that do generally put in over 15+ years already doing back breaking work and still work day an night an let me tell you, a lot of these guys can't even walk upright. You have easy days you have hard days, but its def not a do nothing job, I've seen people hear about this longshoreman thing, try it out, an after 1 hard day their whole prospective and respect for the job changes and most realize this ain't the job for them and they def wouldn't be making 6 figures or even high 5 figs anytime soon doing this...
Programming and maintenance is where the higher paying jobs are going to be. A machine is a machine. With enough time in the seat and some gray matter between your ears you could learn to code and repair the problems that may arise. If you want to. You gotta want it too. I mean the job. Getting up and going to work. There’s a lot of people that don’t want to work that hard.
@@lotto5742 Even partially automated trucks will have a deleterious effect. Autonomous trucks will not have to stop at hotels, grocery stores, and other businesses that human truck drivers usually stop at and support.
Time to move on. Tech wont stop. If we would have kept all the jobs that tech have since taken over we would still have switch board people that we talk to to connect our phone call to the correct line. Just need to go to school and learn another skill that is still marketable in the age of automation
Hopefully these robots completely take over for the bums who make six figures and aren’t happy. The leader of the union literally said he’s going to ruin our lives because he wants the average wage to be a quarter of a million dollars. Get rid of these spoiled brats and cheaper goods for all.
What about the thousands of human beings jobs that will be lost behind this technology that keeps coming yeah it sounds good but a man or woman supporting their families sounds even better to me
@@AmberSantana-is3dq because I’m pro prices going down?!?!? America has a cost of living problem and you’re sitting here supporting it. Things about to get a whole lot worse over the next five years and you can look in the mirror when that happens. Oh and btw America is doing just about everything polar opposite of what I want so explain how what I support is ruining it?
and by soon i assume you mean at least 30years, because good luck convincing congress that UBI would ever be needed. Oh! but if your a CEO at a Large corporation than no worries. They'll just change the wording to like subsidies or something and give you as much money as you want.
If these unions weren’t so hard to get into them everyone would be behind it. People fail to realize that they unions are the worse. It’s only a referral position only. If you don’t know anyone or kids ass you will never get into the union
Amy> it was the same for Delphi and when it comes to referrals only.. they incredibly hard to fire bad workers , people got lazy because the Union forces laziness. Same thing for unions at grocery stores
No it's true. In savannah you can apply for Georgia ports authority which is non union. But in order to be am ILA member which is union will take a village if you don't have family to get u in and work you constantly.
you need to realized that they have failsafe after failsafe after fail safe, multiple computer protection system, multiple power station just to keep it from happening.
Us true americans need to get behind the bigger picture and start boycotting and striking jobs everywhere and all of them to make the federal government get the message and start paying us liveable wages to start but not only that we deserve the essentials a home and a vehicle water food utilities etc
Lol. Where are all these union workers gonna go now? The way they treat drivers im glad theyll be gone! At least robots wont have attitudes and actually work!
They say we need to embrace automation. That's OK, but when are you going to start telling people to stop having babies that when they grow up will not have a job because of automation. College ain't gonna save you if there are no jobs.
Unless you plan a worldwide ban on them the companies or countries who don't adopt automation will be the losers when competing against the ones who do
Why not just let automation take place, and pass the wealth gained from automation back to everyday people? That way they can do things like work for charity organizations instead of having to stand behind a counter or drive a truck all day.
This strike will accelerate more automation.
I agree. They should have took the money and went off to be retrained.
Yep! They,ILA members, are proving they're point.
@@Realtor1983 they should have took the 50% and the minimum automation but that is no longer on the table. As time slips by the food rots and the robots are on the way...
@@VictorianMaid99 then they should lower the price of goods because of absent of labor's cost and pay high taxes..
I can easily see those port trucks carrying the cargo on the Road and replacing semi drivers running 24/7 365!
thats the key of this.. also some systems allow container stacking of up to 14 ... none automated to a max of what 5 or 6? for quick n and out .. (long term storage goes higher but i slow af)
I feel more comfortable driving next to a semi truck that is completely automated instead of being driven by an idiot who obviously doesn't deserve their CDL.
Hahahaha
I had a brand new semi tractor three years later the electronics are short-circuiting the mechanics doesn't know how to fix it.
Automation are only useful on straight road and good weather.
We have tractors that have steering assistance but sometimes that shutoff around corners or when the weather is bad.
@@thomasthumim7630 I'm not saying it's going to happen right now what was in the 5 to 10 years time it is a possibility
Um absolutely not. AI is not competent enough to do this safely.
There is a serious issue of every company expecting every other company to provide the consumers with income to spend. What is taught in business school is to be greedy, there is no teaching of responsibility to society. A casino has zero output of product and nothing physical is created that benefits society, it is a mathematical model to strip as much income away from a community as possible, as legally allowable, with no resulting transferable asset having been created from lesser materials into something of higher value. Emotion and misconception of statistical odds, feelings of dependence on luck and chance for a happy life. Thats all it outputs to society. Nice leadership we have.
AlohaMilton yep, absolutely well put.
Well spoken
Where did you go to business school?
They might be able to fix some of it, but they will need actual training and actual engineers so yes they are out of a job.
This is the only thing that can happen. Get training for another job. I’ve done it 5 times since 1994.
Robots don't pay taxes
So? You know how much cheaper goods will be
@@Gobrowns123 How are you gonna buy anything when a robot takes your job? And why would a company sell you something cheaper when you're buying stuff now at its current price? They want to make money.
@@dirkslasher1876 yes the entire point of a business is to make money. In order to make money the business has to sell the product for more than it took to produce/handle it. The only way that prices could possibly come down for the long turn, is if the business lowers there cost of production. Pretty simple.
@@Gobrowns123 Okay. Make sense. By the way, I haven't seen a drop in grocery store prices since the introduction of self check out, have you? Also, I mind if my job is replaced by a robot, how about you?
@@dirkslasher1876 That’s because the government is printing trillions. If it weren’t for technology prices would be a lot higher than they already are. If the government got out of the way you would see a massive gain in the standard of living over the long run. And as far as losing your job to a robot, you really think we should pay people whose jobs are redundant and completely raise the cost of living and lower the living standard? A bunch of people who made and worked on horse buggies lost their jobs when the car was invented, should we have not invented the car? Should we just of kept paying them for the hell of it through taxation? You obviously don’t know anything about economics, like the rest of this country. Maybe now would be a good time to educate yourself, because it is ignorance like this that is going to bring massive inflation In the next ten years
Only person running for POTUS in 2020 is talking about this as a real issue, so people are not left behind.
Yang 2024
So more people and less jobs. Basically is our future.
And oxygen goes out of my body every time I breathe out. Soon I will drop dead from lack of oxygen!
Vw lover everything becomes cheap atleast
It’s because the unions suck the employers dry, causing rising cost and down town due to strikes
@@chen5237 And what happens then? People have more to spend, which means more jobs are created.
izdatsumcp New Jobs created it is already talked about in government during the hearings
Are the robots going to buy the products inside the containers?
No, people will buy the products inside the container. What is this question even about? Are robots going to buy the food that delivered by autonomous food delivery service? like what? why do you think the robot will buy the product LOL
Those jobs are gonna be lost because of automation it will affect the entire city neighborhoods small businesses it will have a range of jobs loss there can not come back
The ILWU doesn’t care when they strike/blackmail the local, state, and National economy. The ILWU is corrupt and inefficient, we need to automate the ports now.
Cheaper goods for 330 million Americans. Sorry not a good argument.
True, but look at what the port workers are doing to the ports on the East and Gulf coasts. Their strike has brought shipping to a standstill. They are basically blackmailing the country. We can't allow that to happen.
As someone who is in Houston rn I can confirm that everyone in the warehouse is hoping that strike won’t last long the facts are gulf coast is taking a stand against ai I respect it
The strike cost the country billions and caused panic
It's very smooth and efficient, until a cyber attack wrecks the whole system.
That is true. This looks so cool however it is very fragel.
@@Dan-dy8zp in the movie they just went nutty and killed people.
Of course it always happen, but the US has the talents so no worries. The us ports are not even in the top 50 ports in the world in terms of both productivity and tech becasue they run on an old technology, even china ports automated. The longshoremen is dragging the whole us economy into stagnation and communism.
Automation is unavoidable. The govt needs to be ready. Every cargo container handled by a robot should be charged a very small tax, and that money should be used for job training etc etc.
Job training for the jobs that no longer exist..
They can apply at other ports.
That tax would probably go towards maintenance and repairs of the bots
Job training for a job at Walmart?
The unions have done this to themselves.
Guess McDonald's did it to there selfs to? Hopefully it comes for your job. Or Hector and Juan come for it. Scab!
Possibly, they over priced their labor.
@@VictorianMaid99 yea as corporations rake in billions of dollars. And have record profits every year. Bootlicker!
@@justing6594your asking for too much! McDonalds is doing fine because realistic people know thats a gateway job unless your a manager. Unions ask for too much and deliver too little. Raises should be on an individual basis,not union wide. Your socialist pigs! You love other peoples money.
@@VictorianMaid99 It is overpriced if you ask a CEO but not overpriced if measured against inflation. They are one of the few jobs that has stayed about even with inflation. Their wage is where all other jobs should be if those other jobs also stayed even with inflation. Why haven't other jobs stayed even with inflation? they didn't have a union to fight for them.
Shameful how people applauding at all these jobs getting cut due to automation, one must realize that your degree won’t make you immune to this , soon they’ll replace surgeons, teachers, bankers, dentists etc... you’re better off saving and starting your own business before it’s too late
One man operating an excavator takes away the jobs of a few dozen men using shovels, are you going to complain about that?
Check out Andrew Yang. Running for president on UBI to help everyone affected and help them transition into the new economy
My first job and my current job within a 30 year time period have both succumbed to automation.
@@blondie7240 this isn’t the 1800s.
Surgery is not that easy to replace yet it has a lot of robotics already established in the operating theater for 20 years. Bank tellers were turned into ATM servicing worker 20 years ago. They don't get replaced, they got retrained to embrace the change. The problem is the US makes it hyper expensive to learn a new job skill set and the education institution do not provide graduates with the skill sets key industries are screaming for. The disconnect between education and industries is very severe in this country compared to northern Europe. Most people do not have what it takes to start up and sustain their own business otherwise everyone would be doing it.
ANDREW YANG SAVE US!
Yes, save us from automation that has always existed.
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I work down here. Trust me this shit is so slow it’s ridiculous 🤣🤣
How do I apply?
I bet it’s far more cost efficient
@sohd2283 you have to be related to the longshoremen or casuals
Its time ILWU gets out of the ports of LA & LB im a truck driver working at these ports and we get treated like shit by these lazy arrogant union dock workers!!!! So i support 100% automation!!!! It can take up to 9 hrs just to get one load out of the port and dealing with lazy dockworkers, at LBCT which is automated it only takes 30 mins to terminate the empty container and get the loaded one out!!! Its time for a change and 100% automation is the future!!!!!
China already has 7 fully automated ports we will get crushed if we don't get with the times
You saying that now Mr truck driver until y’all accident prone asses started getting laid off cause companies go to automated trucking
Because y’all cost insurance companies billions in freight loss and vehicle damage and total losses
Remember everything comes down hill so when the docks are fully automated they gone find a way to get rid of yo ass to
@@fastluck1348 stay mad 😭 longshoremens time is coming!
How much do longshoremen make an hour?
Automation is going to take your truck job
We must modernize our ports to compete with the Middle East, Europe, and Asia.
The hold up it’s getting the containers out of the Port of LA on trucks. Somebody at some time stopped trucks from running 24 hours a day. Anybody know who that was?
when did that ever happen?
We are a working society. That's why we pray taxes, and people benefit from taxes. Automation is awesome, but it should be regulated.
I, for one, LOVE the new self service kiosks that replaced all the minimum wage workers at fast food restaurants. Now the people that still have jobs can make $15/hr. Its long overdue
@@Rickety3263 That's sarcasm right?
The Money is FAKE, it's a Scam. Why should a liny little group of people get to PRINT all of the Money the Rest of us use out of THIN AIR...
And that the same time we have lots of jobs that no one wants to do because they are paid to low and to boring
@@TecSanento That is an excuse pushed by people that want to continue paying for slave labor, or lobbied politicians or media to parrot it to the citizens.
Loss of income to families and tax raises to maintain those robots.
These are the ripple effect to tge economy.
It doesn't matter to the majority of people until their job starts to mention robots in the workplace to replace them.
How would you feel about that 🤔
Not to mention the rise of prices for economy products. It never goes down on up. How would you afford those products for your family?
Not really. You just have to learn new skills and advaced yourself, maybe learn a new skill on operating the robots or even make the robots. People who will not learn new skills and advaced will be easily replaced. That's how it is. That's just the reality. The march of Innovation and technology are unstoppable
Wow, we are way behind other countries. We are supposed to embrace the loss of thousands of good paying jobs. I'd love to know what those other countries did for their displaced workers. I know progress is necessary, but where do people/workers fit into the equation?
Robots don't pay taxes either
@@conservativeamber1216Agree with you lady. Nobody talks about it. And what about the wages ? Who will feed our families.
you think tailand is really worried about replacing lost jobs for workers?
@@histriamagna1014universal basic income baby. Everyone will get some tokens
Yeah we should replace those pesky machines building things and doing work so my Chinese immigrant family can go back to building rail roads
Automation sounds wonderful - until it's YOUR turn to be replaced by AI. Truckers who think it is great to get rid of longshoreman haven't thought this through - how long do truckers have before trucking is fully automated? Waiters, bank tellers, even doctors and surgeons - all replaceable.
It’s coming
Whether we like it or not, it’s coming. What we need is a progressive government and leadership that understands and prepares for that world, such as starting to discuss universal basic income, etc.
New jobs will arise. Imagine if we had this mentality over the last 200 years and nothing changed. SMH this is a good thing. Cheaper goods for everyone.
@@Gobrowns123 And what makes you think these new jobs won't also be automated?
@@Sneed341 If every job becomes replaced then humans get free things and money and taxes are no longer needed.
Anyone else notice that this guy walks in at 00:42... without shoes, only with gray socks on his feet???
Dude, did you forget to turn on the "Shoes Selector Robot" when you dressed up for this interview XD?
He slides across the floor we all do it 🤣🤣
A lot of homes I’ve been in especially drs or professors don’t want you to wear shoes on their premise. It keeps a lot of the dirt that your shoes track in off the floor.
No more delays
Work 24 7
We already work 24/7
“Work”
Amazing how you can spin something - another video about this same idea was about making Long Beach greener and more efficient.
Exactly, "don't think, we'll think for you".
It Never happened like they wanted it
Production and Numbers went way down
And also the Port can buy Green Vehicles and have Longshoremen drive them so no Jobs are lost.
People have families to feed
But Nope Big Rich Companies don't care about that
And amazing how many jobs are being thrown out the window too hey? This is not good
How come the news story doesn't mention the human impact, the hundreds of family breadwinners who will lose their jobs? Or the trickle down effect on the port community businesses losing all the income from those families? Or that humans doing the same work are almost twice as productive? Or that humans continue to work even in adverse weather conditions? Or that humans can't be hacked and hijacked, or cyber ransomed like one of the major shipping companies was in 2017?
SHHHHH!!!! You are exposing the narrative of destroying the middle class!!
Well if a machine can work 24/7 and work during any weather (sorry, but nothing short of a hurricane can stop a machine from knowing where it needs to go) then all your "productivity" as a human goes out the window in favor of saving money. If a machine only saves the company 5% now, with a clear path toward more money being saved with AI advancements, then it is guaranteed they will make that investment.
Where are your sources for the differences in productivity?
We put far too much trust in a computers ability while forgetting it's vulnerability.
Theyve been paid enough for a lonnnng time. Welcome to 2023!😂
My dad would turn over in his grave ,25 year ILWU 13.
THEY TOOK OR JEBS!!! 🤬
No wonder why they are striking !!!
I see this as a good thing
Cut cost
Means our items will cost less
Go ai and robotics
Those will be the jobs of the future.
Robots don’t pay taxes the earnings go back to the billionaire who own these terminals
I'm here because of the dock workers strike.
Automation could mean end of hundreds or even thousands of jobs
So?
Need that here
What about people who need to feed there families
their. They better pick a skill a machine cant do. Truck drivers might want to invest in trade school.
There still will always be a demand for truck drivers to get it from the port to the consumer, or if that is not desirable vocation, maybe build more cargo rail lines to transition jobs to construction and railroad management
@Daniel P No, Ai can do that
Look up Andrew Yang
I don't like the idea of automation taking someones job. But in this case I can see it being necessary since the corrupt unions have bottlenecked the ports for decades.
exactly
Govt can take over other countries and topple nations but can’t take over a union lol 😂
The ports always struggled with constant slowdowns from way overpaid cry babies. Good riddance. They deserved this.
I guess the robots are lashing the cargo as well on the ships 😂🤣 there always going to need people.
Someone somewhere is working out how to remove every person involved. No doubt a drone is flying ropes around or some craziness
Yea true but hey they use robots in manufacturing plants and they still have people working on them and on production lines and stuff could be the same case as this. People are going to need to fix and maintain theses machines specially if there going to be running 24-7 a robot is just a machine a machine that needs to be maintained and worked on and watched robots should make are jobs easier machines are always going to need a person to operate them.
That’s still a huge reduction in jobs
A better question is how has Medoza's workers been preparing for automation? Have they been taking classes or getting certified? If they are waiting to see if they have a job or not, then prepare only if necessary, then if they find themselves obsolete, then it's on them. They all saw this coming.
Corporations will always look to cut high pay low skill jobs. They call it efficiency.
It is efficiency. If you have unions that bully employers into paying more than workers are worth, that is inefficiency. Maybe these guys should stop acting like a cartel and they might be able to retain their jobs.
@@izdatsumcp it still wouldn't have mattered but with a union they have more say
@@izdatsumcp Minimum wage in the US is only what? 7.50 8 bucks? Did that stop corporations from sending jobs to China so they can pay Chinese workers $250 a month vs $250 a week here? An American union telling a foreign company worth 50 Billion dollars we will only work for a livable wage is hardly bullying and has nothing to do with automation. They are doing what most corporations do coming up with ways to cut costs and be greedy. People like you may think longshoreman are overpaid until you hear the horror stories about the dangers of the job and get woke to the fact that most longshoreman actually don't make as much you may think based on what you read in misinformed news articles..
@@ybe87 Lots of things are pretty wrong here.
Sending jobs to China is silly because anything people consume must be paid for with production. Anything that is imported, therefore, is paid for with production. Trade, on net, cannot send jobs overseas.
The argument that the Chinese are paid less and so they are more competitive is wrong too. They might have lower wages but Americans are also more productive. Also, Chinese are more productive in everything (as are lots of other countries): by rights, literally every job should go overseas. That obviously doesn't happen so your theory of wages' impact on jobs going overseas is wrong.
A living wage is an arbitrary concept. Lots of people lived on a lot less in the past and, in the future, will live on a lot more. The concept has no meaning as people's expectations change.
Unions are bullies but let's talk about automation. Yes, automation comes anyway but unions and things like minimum wage can precipitate it. And, no, automation is not corporations being greedy: cost cutting is what leads to a better standard of living for us all.
I don't particularly have an opinion on longshoremen - I just have an opinion on unions. A union's entire purpose is to push wages above market rate.
Automation will continue to happen and will stop for no one. Deal with it.
Can't wait for the gray goo to overtake us all
"Possible organic lifeform detected. Seek. Isolate. Destroy"
You gotta remember the government is talking a huge loss on this to.
Couldn't be more wrong. All imported cargo is taxed as it leaves the ship by the federal government. This port is a gold mine for the federal government and the State of California gets a nice cut too. This is part of the reason why the State of California is the 3rd largest economy on the planet.
It takes of minimum of 3,hours just to get a load on these ports.Since Automated only takes 30 minutes or less to drop and pick up a load.
That’s true they only see from their point of view we truckers are the ones who suffer the most waiting hours in lines up to 8-9hrs for one load and automated only takes 30mins!! So i support automation
Bobby so if i have to wait a minimum of 4hrs for a load waiting on human operated crane explain to me how do they do “much more”
Bobby ports of Long Beach and Los Ángeles California they are a complete nightmare maybe ports in Canada are better managed
Bobby automation is fast in this area
@@Lacheyenona72 That's until autonomous trucks hit the road an the need for you truckers is eliminated as well, because you must realize what really should be common sense. Automation starts at the ports, then it moves on to the only thing left once that's finished, the unruly truckers. Once automation is perfected, huge corporations will come in and start buying freight companies and won't have any issues investing in fleets of automated trucks within the blink of an eye you'll be passing by them looking and they'll be lined up in lots waiting to take your job.
After this automated dock how many tents went up on the streets.
That part!
Where is the rest of the interview?
Less jobs, more people. More money in the pocket of the owners. Rich get richer. Automation will give too much power to the rich. Hopefully govermant has plan.
It seems to me the local union got screwed by the union leadership again!!! They need to fired or quit the union cause their membership dues are keeping the union leadership with a job!!!
if the members loose their jobs the union leaders loose their income
Workers are their own worst enemy. Like it or not capitalism is based on a society having a working class that are clearly above poor but clearly below middle class. The unions demand wages and benefits that raise their members to middle class. The capitalists then invest in technology to eliminate those jobs that have become too expensive. It's a vicious circle. Everyone wants more pie. Everyone also wants lower prices. No economic system can provide both. Technology wins every time because it is more efficient than workers. It may break and eventually it will require maintenance but it never strikes for higher wages or more benefits and it never does a shitty job to get even when it doesn't get them.
What is wrong with these people,,more jobs gone,,less taxes for government,,so there gon a raise our taxes and not care that families they just fired are on the streets, and we are supposed to be ok with this,no i dont think so,ill admit there cool but not at the expense of families loosing everything
My dad works in the long Beach ports
Amazing
Can anyone tell me the company name that supply such equipment ?
Cavotec is one
Kalmar and ABB and Huawei
Yep, who needs people with jobs to buy our products?
Oh, we all do! D’Oh!
Who says there will be less jobs because of this?
Automation will embrace a deflationary period. That’s what we all wanted right
Ok people its called progress.
Ships use to have sails and swithced to diesel engines, mules use to becused to pull wagons loaded with cargo now trucks do it.
Ypure goingbto like it because whatever ypu order will getvto you faster.
Yeah, it's "cool" seeing automation put more people out of work?
I saw these in battlefield 2042 and thought i would research them abit.
"These are cool" he must don't understand the end of his own job!
And the problem is that a lot of these people that work at these port, have nothing more than a high school education.
So What's your point? You're blaming people who didn't waste their time on a worthless college degree. Don't throw shame on trade skilled workers that make six figures without a college degree
I bet you don't even have one.
Unfortunately, college isn't going to make things better. If everyone goes to college, then workers with college degrees become more common, and therefore the value of a worker with a college degree decreases. We are already seeing this happen today, as only 27% of college graduates have a job related to their field of study, and 44% of college grads have a job that does not require a college degree. In addition to this, the majority of these people take on tens of thousands of dollars in debt that will take decades to pay back. If more people start going to college, this will only get worse.
@reshi p Problem is this is not true. Low key I think it was the corporations that put that false narrative out there. Most longshoreman don't make 6 figures at all and the one's that do generally put in over 15+ years already doing back breaking work and still work day an night an let me tell you, a lot of these guys can't even walk upright. You have easy days you have hard days, but its def not a do nothing job, I've seen people hear about this longshoreman thing, try it out, an after 1 hard day their whole prospective and respect for the job changes and most realize this ain't the job for them and they def wouldn't be making 6 figures or even high 5 figs anytime soon doing this...
That’s even if they have a high school education.
Lmao I hope we go back to the Stone Age
Programming and maintenance is where the higher paying jobs are going to be.
A machine is a machine. With enough time in the seat and some gray matter between your ears you could learn to code and repair the problems that may arise. If you want to. You gotta want it too. I mean the job. Getting up and going to work. There’s a lot of people that don’t want to work that hard.
Automation is great!
It is great until you lose your job.
@@VictorianMaid99these reta shouldn’t be allowed to breed.. I mean how can you say automation is good
China has ports 100% automated, the US is way behind, China has autonomous taxi's too.
This is an issue long time coming. The port will be the beginning and I hope more people speak about automation
Quay is pronounced "key".
Saw it LOGAN , fully automated truck drivers.
There will never be a fully automated truck driver on the highway.
@@lotto5742 Even partially automated trucks will have a deleterious effect. Autonomous trucks will not have to stop at hotels, grocery stores, and other businesses that human truck drivers usually stop at and support.
Time to move on. Tech wont stop. If we would have kept all the jobs that tech have since taken over we would still have switch board people that we talk to to connect our phone call to the correct line. Just need to go to school and learn another skill that is still marketable in the age of automation
I'm here because of the strike in 2024 I was looking at the automation aspect of the strike. Well it doesn't look good for the workers jobs.
Hopefully these robots completely take over for the bums who make six figures and aren’t happy. The leader of the union literally said he’s going to ruin our lives because he wants the average wage to be a quarter of a million dollars. Get rid of these spoiled brats and cheaper goods for all.
Can't believe they rejected a 50% raise.
@@CJ-fh5xq rejecting a 50% Raise is crazy, anyone would take that percentage except those greedy unions
@@OmarGonzalez-rv9hd with the way inflation is going they are going to need atleast that just to remain middle class lol
Isn’t it great! Just look at all those jobs humans no longer have!
That's every industry throughout history
@@donovannewman8462 Not actually!
What about the thousands of human beings jobs that will be lost behind this technology that keeps coming yeah it sounds good but a man or woman supporting their families sounds even better to me
China already has 7 huge fully automated ports we will get crushed if we don't get with the times
This is a terrible argument. 330 million Americans should pay more for goods because of a 1000 people, are you joking? There are other jobs out there.
@@Gobrowns123you’re part of the reason America is in the state it’s in
@@AmberSantana-is3dq because I’m pro prices going down?!?!? America has a cost of living problem and you’re sitting here supporting it. Things about to get a whole lot worse over the next five years and you can look in the mirror when that happens. Oh and btw America is doing just about everything polar opposite of what I want so explain how what I support is ruining it?
Automation is provided by Huawei.
UBI Coming Soon!
Amazing sit at home and do drugs and get money.
and by soon i assume you mean at least 30years, because good luck convincing congress that UBI would ever be needed. Oh! but if your a CEO at a Large corporation than no worries. They'll just change the wording to like subsidies or something and give you as much money as you want.
If these unions weren’t so hard to get into them everyone would be behind it. People fail to realize that they unions are the worse. It’s only a referral position only. If you don’t know anyone or kids ass you will never get into the union
@ShawnPower please stop lying. These job applications have been administered by the EDD for decades.
Amy> it was the same for Delphi and when it comes to referrals only.. they incredibly hard to fire bad workers , people got lazy because the Union forces laziness. Same thing for unions at grocery stores
No it's true. In savannah you can apply for Georgia ports authority which is non union. But in order to be am ILA member which is union will take a village if you don't have family to get u in and work you constantly.
Sooo no more 2 hour lunches
No, that’s the same when we started with ERP systems.
One computer failure and we're all f#$%ed🙄
you need to realized that they have failsafe after failsafe after fail safe, multiple computer protection system, multiple power station just to keep it from happening.
Ai that's why they can't even buy a loaf of bread
This is great
Slowest fkn port ever, ...of all time. Screw the customers, rite. This is the big replacement so fkn inefficient.
@Robert I don't know anything, first hand expirence don't mean shit in fakeworld.
I should start an automation consulting co…
So what will happen if they turn off the robo work force?
Well, well, well, look at us now
Us true americans need to get behind the bigger picture and start boycotting and striking jobs everywhere and all of them to make the federal government get the message and start paying us liveable wages to start but not only that we deserve the essentials a home and a vehicle water food utilities etc
Where’s Frank Sobotka when you need him…
Ooo Job Terminator 1000s models!!... robots dont pay taxes...
They also dont call in sick, they dont miss work , and the they dont complain about EVERYTHING.
Well that was an abrupt ending
All the jobs gone but does shipping get cheaper ? Nope ..... just more profitable for the company
This isn't cool
Yes it is
Hell yes it's cool
They are called RJB robots
Looks like people will be out of work. Too bad, so sad.
Lol. Where are all these union workers gonna go now? The way they treat drivers im glad theyll be gone! At least robots wont have attitudes and actually work!
Bobby not for long
And then when robots replace drivers im sure you will still be cheering for automation 👍🏼
I feel bad for the longshoremen
It's progress. It happened with the Auto industry
The children 😤
What humans to do if machines do everything or majority of things
we'll have more time to complain about the government
The unions are not able to adapt to the market. Mechanization will take over sooner at the expense of union workers.
They say we need to embrace automation. That's OK, but when are you going to start telling people to stop having babies that when they grow up will not have a job because of automation. College ain't gonna save you if there are no jobs.
Very true.
And more Americans out of work more government control but now people don’t care long as government gives them money drive around USA
This is good last port unions brought this on themselves
What it looks like robots will be working for robots
we still need people machines break down
Krane operator $250,000.00 a year
@@CAVIR100 lmao
Stop automation don’t let it in to your work place the computers will fix them selfs
Unless you plan a worldwide ban on them the companies or countries who don't adopt automation will be the losers when competing against the ones who do
One man operating an excavator takes away the jobs of a few dozen men using shovels, are you going to complain about that?
Why not just let automation take place, and pass the wealth gained from automation back to everyday people? That way they can do things like work for charity organizations instead of having to stand behind a counter or drive a truck all day.
@@blondie7240 bro your in every comment you need to relax.
@@kevinalexandrov3959 I'm also in your mom right now, relax