There can be no racial justice without housing desegregation w/ Richard Rothstein

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
  • HELP ME MAKE MORE VIDEOS ▶︎ / forharriet
    GET SOME MERCH ▶︎ ShopForHarriet.com
    CONTACT KIM ▶︎ kimberlynfoster... @KimberlyNFoster\Kimberly@ForHarriet.com
    JOIN THE NEWSLETTER ▶︎ HTTP://FORHARRIET.SUBS...

КОМЕНТАРІ • 129

  • @ForHarriet619
    @ForHarriet619  4 роки тому +34

    Listen to the audio of this interview and download the housing segregation syllabus on Patreon. Patreon.com/ForHarriet

    • @AnimeAngel115
      @AnimeAngel115 4 роки тому +2

      There is a racist running through the comments

  • @ForeignManinaForeignLand
    @ForeignManinaForeignLand 4 роки тому +200

    Excellent topic. American Administration quick to paint Black Lives Matter on a street or companies do a black campaign for a week but neglect the racial disparities that are systematically perpetuating our circumstances.

    • @tylerhackner9731
      @tylerhackner9731 4 роки тому +19

      Exactly. Performativd activism cannot take the place of real policy change.

    • @ElenyM
      @ElenyM 4 роки тому +5

      💯

  • @allymichael337
    @allymichael337 4 роки тому +115

    She is really making her way through the who’s who of Black Studies, isn’t she?

  • @seeyoucu
    @seeyoucu 4 роки тому +198

    His book, The Color of Law, is a phenomenal read. It breaks down everything and by the end it's clear we need reparations.

  • @AY-gg4ef
    @AY-gg4ef 4 роки тому +160

    The amount of things left out of the history I learned is astounding.

    • @carmenadams575
      @carmenadams575 4 роки тому +2

      Agreed!😊

    • @serena9251
      @serena9251 4 роки тому +6

      And frustrating

    • @stephdrake2521
      @stephdrake2521 4 роки тому +2

      It’s designed this way by white supremacy. We have no control over the matrix we live inside .... it’s all up to the racist white supremacists. They are the problem and not you / us.

    • @sharamusica
      @sharamusica 4 роки тому +1

      Stephanie Drake it’s a lot more empowering to tell yourself you have control of your life. Even if it is a illusion. I’m a Mexican woman first generation American and I’m not about to say “oh it’s a matrix of white supremacists that control my reality and nothing is in my control” I make it happen through my actions.

    • @tammy2755
      @tammy2755 3 роки тому

      It's there, just hiding

  • @tylerchannell6868
    @tylerchannell6868 4 роки тому +85

    You got Richard Rothstein!!! Girllllll

  • @laexploradoraaaXD
    @laexploradoraaaXD 4 роки тому +100

    So, so happy you're talking about this because this looming eviction crisis was orchestrated: no affordable housing in predominantly white neighborhoods. Section 8 vouchers are entirely useless if no one will take them. Public housing hasn't been built since forever. Wage stagnation making housing unaffordable to those living on a minimum wage, and even those earning more who still make less than what housing costs. All of this is coming to the forefront. I just really wish it didn't take people being on the street during a pandemic for it to happen.

    • @Lisa-rx6io
      @Lisa-rx6io 4 роки тому +6

      Great comment ! Of course it’s all purposeful

  • @iamleoaries
    @iamleoaries 4 роки тому +60

    I was amazed, when I first read The Color of Law. It informed me of how we got to this point. How the institution is structured to discriminate. White racism is a structured, it is written into the laws, RIGHT NOW, that hold black people back, down and under.

    • @eccentricaste3232
      @eccentricaste3232 4 роки тому +2

      @DemonSlayer ByKnight What she wrote is actually true. Truth hurt.

    • @ellieadrien9853
      @ellieadrien9853 4 роки тому +7

      cdrillbeatgames he’s a troll . The content of the video is above what he is able to comprehend. Give him a second to get through Green Eggs and Ham.

  • @brittany1172
    @brittany1172 4 роки тому +62

    Praying you get a bigger platform/more awareness. You are awesome for bringing these awesome people on this channel!

  • @Nihilist_Porcupine
    @Nihilist_Porcupine 4 роки тому +62

    He made some really great points in support of affirmative action in housing. My favorite: white people received race-based housing benefits for generations that allowed them to generate wealth and financial stability... which during a crisis like the current one (or 2008, for that matter), means they're far more resistant to being completely wiped out financially. Add on top of that the regressive policies enacted to make it more difficult for Black Americans to own homes, and the predatory lending practices of banks, and it's no wonder why things are the way they are. He did a great job of drawing a line from the past to the present, which I think is something that we need to do more often with history. Our current circumstances didn't come out of nowhere, and the more we learn about why and how decisions were made in the past, the more we can do to make things more equitable and fair in the future. Great interview!

    • @ellieadrien9853
      @ellieadrien9853 4 роки тому +3

      DemonSlayer ByKnight are there too many big words for you to understand.

    • @Fae313
      @Fae313 3 роки тому +1

      This is a great comment -- just saying!

  • @ebonyd4ever
    @ebonyd4ever 4 роки тому +49

    I distinctly remember learning about Levittown, and even reading some cases related to Levittown in law school, and it was NEVER discussed in these terms. Thank you, Kimberly, for this work. It is so important.

  • @kimc2357
    @kimc2357 4 роки тому +29

    My God, your interviewing skills are top tier! I also, enjoy that you aren't afraid of asking the hard questions.

  • @obscurity87
    @obscurity87 4 роки тому +22

    can we take a moment to recognize how incredible Kim looks in this video..thanks for always bringing quality content

  • @ajm935
    @ajm935 4 роки тому +44

    Kim, thank you SO MUCH for this video. I keep needing to point this out when discussing financial literacy and wealth disparities being directly connected to racist policies of the past and present. We are not in a vacuum yet many want to believe we are to be able to place blame on the very victims of the system. All of this is connected and generational poverty for blacks was never a choice.

    • @Maverickgouda
      @Maverickgouda 4 роки тому +2

      Yes! The Financial Diet just did a video on the impact of systemic racism’s black wealth. Think it was mostly well-received, but a handful of commenters didn’t see how a macro-eco, racial politics discussion was in their lane as a personal finance channel.

    • @chikaka2012
      @chikaka2012 4 роки тому +1

      Whenever you hear someone placing the blame for the struggles of a group of people on the individual rather than the system, know that you’re being gaslighted. That’s a classic ploy of the elite to ensure that the system that serves them is supported by enough of the population to keep that system in place.

    • @pattiamoh1136
      @pattiamoh1136 3 роки тому

      West oakland cailf highway destroyed the city

  • @tieramack9983
    @tieramack9983 4 роки тому +28

    As an Urban Planner, I thank you for brining this conversation to your platform.

  • @brittany1172
    @brittany1172 4 роки тому +35

    Saw a clip of Rothenstein making the social media rounds and was so intrigued with his assessment of housing discrimination. I’ve always been a proponent of reparations coming in the form of housing, among other things. This was an awesome discussion. Thanks once again for putting great thinkers on your channel!

  • @CheyenneLin
    @CheyenneLin 4 роки тому +8

    i had no idea how far housing segregation went. thank you so much for continuing these indepth scholarly talks on your channel!

  • @MsDEV89
    @MsDEV89 4 роки тому +46

    Code Switch podcast taught me: Housing segregation in everything.

    • @tmandrich95
      @tmandrich95 4 роки тому

      Do you remember the title of the episode??

    • @MsDEV89
      @MsDEV89 4 роки тому +3

      @@tmandrich95 The statement is a running theme that the hosts kinda riff about in a lot of episodes. The ones that talk about housing segregation more explicitly are related to schools in America like "A Tale of Two School Districts" or "Black Parents Take Control."

    • @samij6071
      @samij6071 4 роки тому

      @@MsDEV89 Both GREAT episodes

  • @123cutieputtie
    @123cutieputtie 4 роки тому +20

    This was one of my favorite discussions. Wow so much bullshit went on, we kind of deserve thoes repreations

    • @ellieadrien9853
      @ellieadrien9853 4 роки тому +6

      DemonSlayer ByKnight did you even listen to the video. It makes a very clear case that the US government deliberately stopped black people from owning homes which is a form of generational wealth. This created income inequality. Is the video too high to understand for your low IQ?

    • @nobody8328
      @nobody8328 4 роки тому +1

      Fun fact- more white people recieve government assistance for food and housing than any other race.
      Attend to the moat in thine own eye, troll.

  • @reu2002
    @reu2002 4 роки тому +12

    You are killing it with these discussions with featured contributors!! 👏👏👏

  • @kittkat09
    @kittkat09 4 роки тому +12

    I just want to say Kim I'm so happy to be one of your patron supporters. Your content has always been great but since the quarantine, you've really been stepping it up. Keep going :)

  • @heathertea2704
    @heathertea2704 4 роки тому +6

    "DON'T live near us, but you're welcome to come clean, cook, Nanny & landscape 4 us."
    Tricks PLEASE!
    NOT interested in NONE of the above.

  • @tylerhackner9731
    @tylerhackner9731 4 роки тому +15

    Thank you for for addressing this much needed topic! We need to address the racial disparities and biases that are still perpetuated and present in our society! We can’t just do performative activism! ✊🏼✊🏼

  • @PrivateDncr86
    @PrivateDncr86 4 роки тому +12

    The Color of Law is an excellent book!

  • @chikaka2012
    @chikaka2012 4 роки тому +3

    I think some of this discussion is about environmental justice but that word never is specifically mentioned.

  • @tiahardy31715
    @tiahardy31715 4 роки тому +13

    Kim you are doing important work, thoughtful and well educated interviews

  • @chikaka2012
    @chikaka2012 4 роки тому +3

    I’m not sure I agree that the reasons Black people might be less likely to appeal property tax assessments and other de facto or de jure discriminatory practices is due to an education gap. I’m thinking this is due to distrust of a discriminatory legal system plus lack of wealth (in the form of both time & money) required to go through appeal & other legal processes.

  • @writeherstory11
    @writeherstory11 4 роки тому +15

    I was listening very closely but raised a brow at the point that Black children are struggling due to factors unrelated to the quality of education and lack of access, which causes them to perform lower. Also making the point that schools in predominantly Black low-income neighborhoods receive more funding is VERY questionable. Despite that, thank you so much for this video Kim. This video was necessary as housing discrimination is often left out in the conversation of fueling racial discrimination. Thank you Mr. Rothstein for the Color of Law as well.

    • @SuburbanKween
      @SuburbanKween 4 роки тому +2

      I'm puzzled by that as well. When John McWhorter was on The Weeds podcast a few weeks ago, he said the same about Black schools being highly funded. Where's the money going if they are so well funded?

    • @taylortate8014
      @taylortate8014 4 роки тому +5

      Its ridiculous but its true! I learned this after watching Ms Virginia on Netflix! (Its a movie about a Black mom in DC trying to get her child good education.) They often mismanage the money or use it in ways that aren't actually helpful for students.

    • @belleanse
      @belleanse 4 роки тому +5

      The point is that school fundings are not eough for the success of the students who are poor. In order for them to be successful, we also need to address the social conditions that inhibit them

    • @samij6071
      @samij6071 4 роки тому +2

      They sometimes receive more FEDERAL funding. However, schools are PREDOMINATELY funded by the (local) property tax base. So, while they may receive more in federal funding, that may make up only 10-20% of the overall funding.
      The point he made about the other reasons for poor performance are apt. How can you perform well when you're not eating a nutritious breakfast, or because you're mother has to work outside of the home at all hours due to so called welfare "reform?" & therefore can't help you with your homework?

  • @akatobi2002
    @akatobi2002 4 роки тому +6

    Omg I'm reading this book! This is a killer interview!!!

  • @GeezLouise1000
    @GeezLouise1000 4 роки тому +10

    Kim, you are glowing!

  • @demetriuswilliams1
    @demetriuswilliams1 4 роки тому +6

    Once again !!! Kimberly, thank you for your work and dedication ✊🏾

  • @stardusstie
    @stardusstie 4 роки тому +6

    Perfect timing, I just read this book this month!

  • @lovecate1
    @lovecate1 4 роки тому +6

    Excellent interview. Definitely learned a lot. and will be getting a copy of his book.

  • @kanampersand
    @kanampersand 4 роки тому +4

    His book is on my reading list but I am so glad you did this interview. Thanks, Kimberly!

  • @kataddy
    @kataddy 4 роки тому +2

    Our girl Kim is not fucking around

  • @LilyMilos
    @LilyMilos 4 роки тому +2

    Thank you for another great interview AND book recommendation. Definitely going to pick up The Color of Law.

  • @zondreab6689
    @zondreab6689 3 роки тому +2

    this whole discussion basically sums up the city where i live. this is st.louis. housing, education, and class are so intertwined here it is ridiculous. if you are a stl louis native or if you come to stl, the first question we ask is “where did you go to school?” this tells us so much about your family, income, neighborhood, etc.
    i’ve actually wrote about this and making friendships in my communications class lol.

  • @imani7930
    @imani7930 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you for shining a spotlight on this issue. Misinformation and misdirection is a powerful weapon used to propagate systematic racism.

  • @starlight8554
    @starlight8554 4 роки тому +6

    Going to try and get that book rn

  • @catw807
    @catw807 4 роки тому +7

    the face Kim made when he said all black children have access to quality education... 😂

  • @michelleobamassuspiciousbulge
    @michelleobamassuspiciousbulge 2 роки тому +1

    And then one day, for no reason at all...

  • @JaiProdz
    @JaiProdz 4 роки тому +17

    You are doing important work!

  • @eighty8jets
    @eighty8jets 4 роки тому +8

    You have been working hard Kim! Love you

  • @everyonedeservestogohome2949
    @everyonedeservestogohome2949 4 роки тому +3

    Up next medical apartheid?

  • @applejax8264
    @applejax8264 4 роки тому +3

    So so glad you had him on. I already had some cursory knowledge about the history of segregation, but his book was a revelation.

    • @ellieadrien9853
      @ellieadrien9853 4 роки тому +1

      DemonSlayer ByKnight a racist troll. You’re part of the problem because you act like racism didn’t have lasting negative effects

    • @samij6071
      @samij6071 4 роки тому +2

      @DemonSlayer ByKnight do you really have nothing better to do? You keep saying that but you seem to have a LOT of time on those hands of yours. No job, huh?

  • @DiamondStylz
    @DiamondStylz 4 роки тому +3

    Come on George Romney ...that gag me

    • @wendyguity4168
      @wendyguity4168 4 роки тому +3

      He did the work. And was silenced. What got me was the white man who bought a house for his black friend, tried - convicted and jailed for years for sedition.
      This country is sad.

    • @DiamondStylz
      @DiamondStylz 4 роки тому

      @@wendyguity4168 that suckkkkkks

  • @leoniemills4918
    @leoniemills4918 4 роки тому +6

    Thank you so much for bringing up these very important conversations. I learnt so much, especially as I learnt about the dejure and defacto things too. They really want us to believe that these inequalities are just by mistake.

  • @francescarogato6880
    @francescarogato6880 Рік тому

    i listen to this for falling asleep and i don't even feel bad because this content deserves to have many views

  • @joeyjose727
    @joeyjose727 4 роки тому +1

    Insanely informative discussion, thank you for bringing him on Kim

  • @ogreer
    @ogreer 4 роки тому +2

    thank you for the work you do!!!!!!

  • @nervous_greenfish
    @nervous_greenfish 4 роки тому +5

    Youre platforming and elevating very valuable people. Appreciate it 💕

  • @julia-jy4fq
    @julia-jy4fq 4 роки тому +5

    This channel is such a great resource. Thank you for all that you do!

  • @misstiff29
    @misstiff29 Рік тому

    Amazing thank you for this!

  • @lianacurry-desalas2565
    @lianacurry-desalas2565 4 роки тому +8

    Is it just me or does it feel like some interviewees fail to show Kim the respect she deserves?

    • @rikitawimberly775
      @rikitawimberly775 4 роки тому +10

      In which ways do you think she's not getting respect? I haven't picked up on this myself but would love to hear why.

    • @brianabellissima1264
      @brianabellissima1264 4 роки тому +2

      No

    • @lianacurry-desalas2565
      @lianacurry-desalas2565 4 роки тому +7

      A few ways. Certain guests (the most famous ones like Rothstein) don't regard Kim as highly as she does them. For example, Professor Rothstein seemed annoyed when Kim asked him to answer a question which might refer to one of his earlier answers. The way he said "as I said earlier" seemed out of place for an environment which was nothing short of celebratory for him. Kim creates a really welcoming environment for guests like Rothstein despite the mountain of work she has to do and it just feels like guests take that space and respond to it with clout. It just seems really jarring at the very least.

    • @jones5865
      @jones5865 4 роки тому +3

      LiAna Curry-De Salas I think it has more to do with connection or vibe. He's an old white man who I was getting "racially animus" energy from. You know white folk (esp white men) are naturally less welcoming, less warm, less empathetic to the day to day experiences of marginalized individuals, although he understands the systematic structure of black oppression. He's still playing his role because he can and he's old.

    • @oohforf6375
      @oohforf6375 3 роки тому +3

      @@lianacurry-desalas2565 You definitely see this from older academic types from time to time - this slightly arrogant "coldness". Ivory towers do this to people lol.

  • @eileennguyen842
    @eileennguyen842 2 роки тому

    Just watched this and it was really excellent. This book has been coming up on my Amazon recs for awhile and I think I'm finally going to buy it because I had no idea about the racial covenants in construction loans as well as mortgages. (Also ties in well with The Color of Money, by Mehrsa Baradaran
    , which I read a few months ago - about Black banking - if anyone has interest in that topic).

  • @sunnizebra
    @sunnizebra 4 роки тому

    Thank you for your videos, I've learned so much. Great job!! This interview was really good.

  • @nqobilentuli4244
    @nqobilentuli4244 4 роки тому +4

    Same as here in South Africa.

  • @nessazee
    @nessazee 4 роки тому

    I learned so much from this! Thought I knew a few things about housing but nope!!

  • @mercirand8219
    @mercirand8219 4 роки тому +1

    This was a great book

  • @ae.5812
    @ae.5812 4 роки тому

    Kim, thank you for having Rothenstein as an interview guest. Such an important voice!

  • @kijahne1210
    @kijahne1210 4 роки тому

    His book is a GREAT read. Love that she brought this to the audience.

  • @CLM1789
    @CLM1789 3 роки тому

    I am listening to this and crying - I was never so touched by a book since - The Mismessure of Men by Stevan J Gold

    • @CLM1789
      @CLM1789 3 роки тому

      Another scholar that made me this emotional respond is Joy The Gruy.
      its like I have been waiting for this kind of book for so long!

  • @hannawn3971
    @hannawn3971 4 роки тому +2

    I'm so excited to dive into this episode. This is history we should all know and the past impacts the present. We can see the legacy of discriminatory practices, systems, and policies all around us.

  • @kalane
    @kalane 4 роки тому

    Great interview. I've got to read his book.

  • @breanaarabia538
    @breanaarabia538 4 роки тому

    I appreciate you ❤ thank you.

  • @CLM1789
    @CLM1789 3 роки тому

    I am buying this book now

  • @labellt9717
    @labellt9717 4 роки тому

    The is very interesting information!

  • @Wintermars
    @Wintermars 4 роки тому

    Kim I just love you 🥰

  • @jackiem1682
    @jackiem1682 4 роки тому

    26:00

  • @jsb1377
    @jsb1377 4 роки тому

    Bump

  • @uluvjordan
    @uluvjordan 4 роки тому

    🖤

  • @justinfowler1271
    @justinfowler1271 5 місяців тому

    Always a stein berg. I hope I’m just going crazy

  • @kiaraditmasa
    @kiaraditmasa 4 роки тому

    I don’t want to live in mix neighborhoods, I want to lice in Black neighborhoods, how can we create that?

  • @tamaral2520
    @tamaral2520 4 роки тому +4

    Yeees reading his book now!

  • @billywild5440
    @billywild5440 4 роки тому

    I think you are over simplifying a complicated topic that is way over your head.

    • @rhondadenis3469
      @rhondadenis3469 3 роки тому +1

      Who is over simplifying this complex issue?

  • @LotusKayB
    @LotusKayB 4 роки тому

    Ummm🤔....

  • @angussamson6783
    @angussamson6783 4 роки тому

    Yowwwww!

  • @leroylem51
    @leroylem51 4 роки тому

    Oh really... If you got the bucks you can live where you want. End of story.

  • @jetblackhair92
    @jetblackhair92 4 роки тому

    First

  • @Fae313
    @Fae313 3 роки тому

    This is one of my favorite videos on this channel, I don't understand why it doesn't have more views