It was 100% Vince. I remember watching "Tamar & Vince", and Vince didn't even tell Tamar that she had an interview special before her concert. He also didn't tell Tamar that her band canceled on her right before her show, even though he knew about it. He kept her in the dark about A LOT of things and messed up her negotiations. Tamar still wants to protect him though. I believe Loni is telling the truth about Vince playing a major part in getting her fired
adrian Blackwell I don't think Towanda meant any harm tbh. She probably just said be sure to tune in to the show and Loni took it in a different context. It DOES happen, but ultimately I agree with the statement about Vince being behind her getting fired.
gmcmim1 But Loni was wrong to tell the world that it was Towanda who gave her the heads up. She could have said a friend of hers who works at WeTv told her. Its not right to throw someone who is trying to help you under the bus like that. Towanda clearly felt that it was wrong for Tamar to lie about Loni being the cause of her dismissal from The Real and so she tried to help Loni but certainly NOT at the expense of her relationship with her sister. What Loni did was seriously not cool. This is just my opinion.
Jobs never tell who they fire in regular work life so how would they know? If you are told then it is after that fact. I have seen people be fired and it is life like normal. Like it never happened. The only reason they would need to be told is if it was affecting their money.
Shelia Daniel She sure did. I saw Her IG post after the firing became public. She was being so FAKE ! Her Tamartian fans were trolling Loni and the rest of The Talk crew and TAMAR let them take all the social media backlash without saying a single word.
Shahauntay Shannelle bc she was told they got her fired and none of them reached out to her until she posted that post. So it was easily to believe. They knew she was fired and didn’t reach out to her, so she’s like they knew and didn’t say anything
@@naefranklin3181 LOL ! She knows that None of those women hold that type of clout. Tamar's husband Vincent was even a producer on the show. He didn't even stick up for her. Her own big mouth and nasty attitude got her fired, and instead of realizing that fact, she was quick to blame her coworkers and sat back and let the Tamartians DRAG them for filfth. I remember her whole dramatic post, she purposely made it seem like it was them. It was all done for sympathy. SMH
Casandra Morrow I don’t, but I know that Tamar’s reason for being fired has been so vague and someone has to know something. Also I don’t trust Vince, something about him and the beating accusations are all fishy 🤔
dear rafa Nothing about that emergency taping pointed the finger at her co-host for getting her fired and to this day, Tamar has NEVER said that Loni, Adrienne, or any of her co-host were responsible....she said at the time that SHE DID NOT KNOW, but suspected that someone stabbed her in the back. Please show me the receipts where Tamar specifically blamed her co-hosts.
I agree with you that Tamar didn’t know why she got fired originally, but then she did so instead of apologizing she ran with insinuations to save face. Lonnie and the ladies deserve much respect for taking the high road all this time, especially with the way they have been attacked. They were asked and have a right to tell their truth. I don’t feel that Towanda did anything wrong and exercised integrity and protected her sister at the same time. She was actually throwing Vince under the rug because the girls were already mad at him and he was about to put Tamar and WeTV in a defamation lawsuit, so she did have her sisters back in the big scheme of things. Tamar’s immaturity and self centeredness can’t allow her to see the forest for the trees. She like to hold her sisters emotionally hostage and they go for it because that is how their mother has always done all of them, including daddy Braxton. I’m sorry these girls were molested by people they trusted like so many of us, but that is no excuse for her lies on Inyanla and constantly acting out like a bratty child. I pray the entire family seeks help or they are going to continue to crash and burn like so many!
Edelyne I don’t think they are legally allowed to publicly discuss a person’s contract. Vince knew all the time because he is her manager and negotiated the deal, so of course he made the other ladies the skate-goat in his manipulation.
Tamar shouldn’t be mad that Towanda told Loni, she saved y’all from legal action, and Towanda sounds dumb because the ladies of the Real were ASKED about the Tamar situation.
No wonder Toni said if they weren't sister theu wouldnt be friends. They live to sabotage eachother. Except Toni, she's just trying to sing and do what she loves. I hope they can get it together.
Toni was same back in the day. Millions in debt. Blamed everyone. Got called out by Oprah in interview about responsibility. Toni said O was rude. That family is fucked up. No damn sense.
Loni had a right to clear their name...I would have. Loni was getting death threats and was pulled through the ringer more than the rest of them. Towanda needs to let that one go!
Patrice Waters - Traci at the 8:52 mark saying “you have to watch BFV” pertaining to the molestation conversation should tell you that it WAS indeed filmed, spoken about and likely shared in front of a bunch of people. I’m SURE if that part wasn’t true, Iyanla would have spoke up and said it wasn’t, because she has spoken out on Tamar & she never mentioned that part. On the show, they showed that each sister had a separate & private talk with Iyanla EXCEPT for Tamar. Don’t be so quick to put something past Iyanla like that, just because you dislike Tamar. She even diagnosed her outside of the sessions to strangers and she’s not even a therapist nor doctor.
Towanda tryna save face- she’s FAKE... she doesn’t need to be acting up like that. They spoke about Tamar ONCE while Tamar was dragging their name through the mud multiple times 😒 Edit: It was all Vince! What a manipulative, envious, slack jawed, good for nothing “husband” he was 😩
Whoa that is NOT true! The ladies have done multiple interviews actually about Tamar’s firing, to the point where Tamar had to publicly ask for them not to speak on her anymore: ua-cam.com/video/Ne9_Lr3SReI/v-deo.html You can search UA-cam for all the interviews. However, this IS the first time Loni revealed these details. When Tamar did her interviews, she NEVER “dragged their name through the mud” that’s a heavy statement. She just always said she thought they were her friends. You can also UA-cam her interviews as well.
T Essence she insinuated that they were the reason for her being fired and they got DRAAAGED... and she did nothing about it- she didn’t clearly state that they didn’t and allowed her fans to attack them. Even when she became aware of the truth she said nothing 😩 AND she shaded them on instagram MULTIPLE times whew chile she messy af
That's 💯 for sure they never have and probably never will it's a Damm shame the Braxton need to own there truth and find some common ground with each other!!!
She has absolutely no right to clap back at loni, she’s just trying to hurry and respond so that Tamar won’t be mad at her. She should have kept her mouth closed. She can’t be mad at Loni for telling the truth. Those girls went through so much hate because people thought they were the ones that got Tamar fired and Tamar never spoke up.
Tamar won't ever apologise, Tamar and Vince plan back fired the truth came out Tamar never own the truth, her truth is it lies ,lies to be raised in church what values God is the truth and light .Tamar can't get along with any one . she is self destructive.point blank.i knew after Braxton Family Values she would be be back at the same thing
So she should be loyal to Tamar just because she’s her sister? nahh. This situation made Loni and the other women look bad. Family or not I believe in HONESTY
To be honest (no pun intended lol)...Towanda should've just directed that to Tamar in a private convo. Just keep it real with her and say, "Now Tay, you know DAMN well those girls didn't get you fired. You gotta make it right/exonerate them, etc etc". For Towanda to give Loni a "heads up" is not a good look. Always keep it real, but keep it real with your fam, not their enemies. You know?
Brenda What!!?I’m lying and dying for mines period.My loyalty set up different. Towanda should have never spoke to her, she didn’t have to lie. That’s fam u don’t talk to the enemy. Whether on a plane, train, automobile. That was Vince and Tamar business to tell. That ain’t Towanda job or husband, everybody do like Toni and mind y’all business.
@@coillest8628 but they weren't the enemy Vince was, and Tamar was blind to her husbands words. Tamar is stubborn to the point of no return ans her ego is huge she hates admiting she's wrong.. Her sister telling Loni the truth isn't wrong because I'm sure if Towanda told Tamar your Husband is a liar she wouldn't listen.
Brenda I agree with you, Towanda has integrity and that is why they call her the Secret Squirrel, but she needs to stand in her truth and let Tamar be where she is because if it isn’t this it will be something else with the drama queen!
Truth is she is hurting, dont know how to forget past sexual abuse and probably blams herself, very common trait of child sexually abused children. So she is angry with herself just takes her self hatred out on everyone else.
Tamar just take the "L" and apologize to Loni and the girls...Vince is behind it and love controlling her life! Loni has no real reason to lie on Tamar... Now Towanda trying to damage control all of sudden.
Yup. The days when Toni had her music videos on and she was the only Braxton on tv. “Unbreak my heart” and He wasn’t man enough for me” were bops hahaha
I noticed that in African American families when tend to sweep sexual abuse under the rug. I don't think people realize that molestation really messes with you psychologically and emotionally. And to know that these some of these family members knew and STILL have the abuser around their children is just sickening. Despite the sisters behaviors, I really hope that they get the therapy and help they need in order to heal from the trauma impacting their family.
idreamoftea 89, you are so right!!! It's always a kept secret!!! I learned a few years ago that the reason a person can have so many victims is because people keep quiet and don't won't it to come out!!!!
Sexual abuse in the family tends to be a secret in many families. I hope more and more sex abuse survivors free themselves and open up to a safe person so that their healing can begin. Everyone should be able to feel loved and safe within their own body.
I heard them say VINCE blamed the girls and somehow it’s Tamar who did it?? Smh. People love to hate her don’t they. HE WAS HER MANAGER!!! He very much got her fired. And I’m sure IF she ever mentioned the fake girls from the real (besides Loni because she’s the only real one) it was based off of what Vince told her AFTER he got her fired. Why do people act like this is impossible to believe?? There is a such things as a bad manager ya know smh 🤦🏾♀️
Towanda girl . . . shut up. They were keeping it real. They were on a radio show and the host ASKED them about the situation. Not to mention, this was literally the first time that the girls have really really spoken up about it. Loni did that one little video after it all went down, but other than that, they have not spoked about it. Especially since Tamar even asked that The Real not mention her name (which they did not) Loni and the other girls really did not do any wrong by finally speaking up and giving their side of the story cause Tamar has had numerous times to give her side. The ladies of the The Real ain't sitting around constantly thinking about you. Tamar was always a hit or miss with me on the show, although majority of the time she was a miss for me. Although there were times when I liked and agree with her, she got on my nerves most of the time. Seems like her and some of her sisters are just drawn to drama.
The reality show Braxton Family Values actually trashed the BRAXTON FAMILY Name and did nothing Positive for their Family image... Reality shows are sometimes more damaging than good, this is certainly one show that did just that!!
Bc that was her husband and she trusted him with her business and personal life. He never did the shit to Toni so she’s like why would he do it with me
@@naefranklin3181 yea but the truth is out, they're divorce and she's still blaming everybody but him. I understand it can be embrassing but sometimes you gotta own up to your mistake. Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she (Tamar) confide in someone about Vince hold her & her career back?? I think the person was Loni I can't remember correctly.
I really do not like the fact that Tamar is including these ladies. Loni and the ladies are super cool. They are messy and sorry. Towanda have a real real seat!! I have time also!
Yea! Towanda's side sounds sketchy! But Tamar behaviour is like a fem gay boy! She's also fake! I really want to see her real self! And then may be I will like her!
OMG Finally someone see through this bs!! Tamar and Vince was tryna do something backhanded together. But that seems like everyone now day, instead of taking the blame or admitting faults, everyone deflects
when it comes to molestation you can't always blame the parents. It happens more than people know and usually by someone the family members trust and also most times the victims never tell out of embarrassment, blaming themselves, or not wanting the parents to blame themselves.
You know Towanda is lying bc she had to write all of that to defend herself. Let's not pretend like Towanda doesn't have a past of telling her sister's business.
TRESEA GREEN Exactly, they will always look at her different after this. So, the best they can do is just be cordial like they have been over the last couple years.
TRESEA GREEN Well that as well.. But her career really failed and a lot of opportunities failed too while being managed by Vince.. So I just want to see her get her life back but at the very least she can apologize to the girls and move on!!
Beautynbrainz26 I think she should too but I can only imagine the journey she's on trying to not only heal from this but evaluating how it has affected her life and the decisions she's made... On top of that, clearly she wasn't ready to talk about the molestation but it got tossed out there so she's dealing with not just people who didn't know now knowing but THE WORLD knowing. She's probably goin through a ton of internal warfare but once she finds her peace Im sure she will mend fences with the ladies of the real but tbh an apology to them would be the last thing on my mind she needs to heal from this first. (Not to mention all of what she went through behind closed doors with Vince)
As talented as I think Tamar is, I've noticed that she never takes accountability for her actions. She owes the ladies of the real a huge apology for all the accusations. Another thing that annoys me is how she would often use the term "alpha" in reference to herself. The reality is, everything she's portrayed herself as was simply a facade. I hope all the sisters, especially Tamar and Traci heal from the past. Great video, I enjoyed it immensely!
Anji Rnkr, i agree with u, she probly should apologize for false accusations, although it's an irritant to u, referring to self as an alpha may in fact be a confidence-builder or "beast" affirmation of herself and needed to keep her "up". Btw,I loove your hair! Beautiful!!!
honestly family secrets go deep with a lot of families when it happened to me and my sister it was a shock because we never thought our own family members would try something with us like that my mother did not know at the time but we did tell her. Sometimes the mothers are blind sided to what goes on with there children especially when a family member does it. They are in a shock as well now if its a parent that has had it happen to them then you get an complete different response to the situation my theory is if anyone is hurting you speak on it don't hold it don't carry the memory of it because if you do it will effect you in future relationships. This is the reason why women today have so many trust issues. Its hard to trust someone when you being hurt by your own blood. I pray for anyone who has ever been through that. God bless you all.
@Allison Jackson you are a very strong and courageous woman. But you being able to move on is the hardest thing but they no longer have power over you because you survived it and your able to tell your testimony. I'm so sorry you went through that it's a horrible thing especially when your blood does it to you. But glory to God. Your ok now.
I really thought this interview was going to bring the girls back together as friends.... i saw nothing wrong with anything they said they said they always supported her and loved her and they still have the same numbers.... this is called itching for a beef 🤦🏾♀️
Tamar is never accountable for anything that she does, period. Nothing is ever her fault, even after 40, so I have a hard time taking her versions of events seriously.
exactly b/c that is not the same thing she told Wendy about Iyanla. She said that Iyanla mentioning her molestation had nothing to do with her issues now, so she didn’t know why Iyanla was bringing up irrelevant stuff
It’s got to be exhausting to be around her. She lies and manipulates the conversation so that she’s always a victim. Can’t believe people still defend her.
Tamar got caught in a lie which I believe didn't start out as one but Vince manipulated her and that situation SO bad just because she wanted a new manager (we see how well that went). Vince had it planned out all along (funny I haven't heard him say a word on the divorce, on Tamar getting fired or any of the drama surrounding Tamar). Towanda TRIED to play the good sister (as she always has, until it blew up in her face) but in this case, her name got mentioned so now she's quick to defend herself and her sister to save face. You see how Loni never responded?? If Loni had never come forward, which I'm glad she did because this has been a subject for far too long, Towanda wouldn't have to get defensive, not to mention, Tamar kept quiet about it. When does she ever?! Guilty as charged. Tamar - Lie. Towanda - Lie. Vince - Lie.
To be honest I never cared for Tamar on the Real, she was always rude to Jeannie. But, Tamar never was disciplined to take accountability for your mistake and own up too it. Loni is really telling the truth you can hear the hurt in her voice. The Real is really genuine people. Loni needed the get that issue of her chest some people need to get off their chest.
If I was the ladies of the Real Talk Show I would've been came out and said the reason Tamar was let go from the show enough of letting people drag your name thru the mud. Damn a lawsuit and be done I think the public was dragging these ladies because Tamar was let go and they were totally innocent from the start....
But, you know it's good they let Tamar and Vince go on a pity tour first. Now they both look petty and crazy. Vince is such a coward I can't stand him.
Yes they should have! Instead of waiting for a family that everyone see's is in a healing process now & to come up with this old ass bs now to try and start some more family drama or drama period! I think they did this bs for some more TV ratings too. Hope Tamar don't feed into this yrs later bs bye the real foh
Marsha Eafen I agree with you I wouldn't of let it go on for one day, they should've shut it down immediately and this crap would've been over and this family of sister's can heal and love each other right!!!!
I am so sorry that the molestation happened and I can truly sympathize with them because I cannot believe she would lie about something so horrible and traumatic. However, the fact that she was molested was never discussed it nor was it brought up in either episodes. Tamar was confronted about being late and her behavior and that is why she stormed out. Hell I don't remember her storming out they took a break... along one but a break. I personally cannot believe that Iyanla would violate her like that. Also, no one in the family ever brought up the fact the Iyanla disrespected Tamar. She went on those shows to do damage control before the show aired but given the backlash I don't think it worked out in her favor. I am praying she finds some peace and they find healing.
Taneya Queenie I agree with you but Loni was wrong to tell the world that it was Towanda who gave her the heads up. She could have said a friend of hers who works at WeTv told her. Its not right to throw someone who is trying to help you under the bus like that. Towanda clearly felt that it was wrong for Tamar to lie about Loni being the cause of her dismissal from The Real and so she tried to help Loni but certainly NOT at the expense of her relationship with her sister. What Loni did was seriously not cool. This is just my opinion.
bigjayking24 If it was a mistake then why did she remember to omit the name of the person from WeTv who told her that there is a rough edit where Vince named her and the other ladies as the cause for Tamar's dismissal? But she cant remember to omit Towanda's name?
TOWANDA F.... UP GOSSIPING ABOUT SHIT AND IT BACK FIRED IN HER AND VINCE FACE ALSO TAMAR FACE TOO SHE JUMP THE GUN ON THE LADIES ON THE REAL AND MADE THINGS WORST THAN IT WAS HER MAN DID THIS TO HER SHE NEEDS TO CONFRONT HIM.
When the family met with T.D Jake's it was made very clear that her family didn't embrace her blessings!!!! And T.D Jake's clearly seen who the Real trouble maker's were!!!!!
Yep. You're right. I saw that myself. The show has turned into Lets-All-Hate-On-Tamar for the past 4 seasons ever since Tamar shot to unexpected musical fame. *They forgot that God blesses whomever HE wants with likability!* If her sisters REALLY went into the show thinking they had ANY inkling of chance to make it big in the music industry, then they're more naive than they look on my TV.
I've always refused to believe Towanda was in it to sabotage Tamar, but Facts Are Facts! Towanda has hated Tamar for: *being the baby* _(confessed to Iyanla back in 2004),_ *leaving an unsuccessful trio to go solo, marrying up, being the undisputed show star from day 1;* and for *finding success at 36, in an ageist industry, at a time R&B was on breath support!* Towanda's revenge becomes all too clear when she sets up short-fused Tamar to burst. Why would you light your impulsive sister's wick, with a camera rolling, if not to tarnish her public image, make her lose credibility, and yank her down to your likability level?!? I got reason to believe Towanda's become nicer to her sis _only after_ Tamar (in this order): *1- almost died and couldn't go on to win Dancing With The Stars* _(a gig Towanda wanted)_ *2- was let go of The Real* _(Gone from 4 networks to the only 1 her sisters TRY to shine on)_ *3- saw the public increasingly bash her character* _(Towanda's chance to be a TV darling)_ *4- sold less* _(Towanda is glad "often-flat" Tamar's career looks as promising as hers now)_ *5- filed for divorce* _(Towanda is relieved the object of her envy is as much of a "failure")_ and *6- quit BFV* _(Towanda's time to prove she and the show can be fun without its breakout star)_ And don't get me started how she turned happy-go-lucky Trina into an automatic Tayhater. PUHthetic.
MST82 Man I have been saying this for yeeeeaaaarrrrssss and no one would believe me!!! Thank you for breaking this down. It was like as soon as Tamar popped Towanda and Trina just appeared to ALWAYS be hating and never supportive!!!
Why is Towanda mad.🤨 She did the right thing by telling Loni it wasn’t her fault. Yet bc someone’s mad at you, now you want to kiss a**. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
kimmie pie cause Towanda doesn’t matter and she knows it! She doesn’t want Tamar mad at her. She knows Toni and Tamar are the important ones. That’s why Toni could sit there and say she wouldn’t be friends with anyone in here family if they weren’t family and nothing was said about it. That’s why
Tamar can't keep a friend, can't keep a husband, can't keep a job, can't keep a stylist, can't keep a hairline and can't keep her damn mouth shut! I'm done with her, and her immature family! Go ahead Loni, we support you!
I could definitely tell that when iyana was picking tamar card on why she acts the way she acts that it was leading to being molested and tamar was getting upset because without it actually being said , what iyana observed was actually true. Tamar didnt know how to handle that situation so like with every situation she encounters, she just left to get her mind together. I really truly believe that iyana is great at what she does and truly is trying to help our community by being open with the issues that we faced in our life but sometimes her tacts can be bothersome.
I'm still trying to figure out how Tamar thinks it's OK to be mad at anyone in this situation besides Vince?? He's the core of this whole fiasco. Cuz if the tables were turned she'd be upset at whomever for not giving her a heads up about the shady underhandedness at play to make her look like she was the blame to get someone else fired.. Like I get the loyalty thing but whatever happened to having your fellow woman's back, true sisterhood doesn't mean u gotta be related by blood to look out for another woman, ijs...
He has too much dirt/control on her. He, probably, could have her killed. Didn't stop him from killing her public persona. Remember how he slammed the house's door shut and left her on the driveway on the way back from the delivery room?
You really can’t put it to rest because ppl want to know why she was fired. I loved all the ladies together on the show it’s messed up and for anyone to keep up the drama and continue to distance a friendship they all had for each other is SAD! They were and are there for each other. If Vince did have something to do with the firing she need to be REAL about it and discuss it but of course that won’t happen because she will have to admit her wrong doing. I like Tamar but she has many flaws when it comes to her admitting she’s wrong. Good luck to them all!!
I'm glad Loni was able to clear her and the girls names, FINALLY...they have the right to tell their side of the story after Tamar LIED instead of taking responsibility for her and Vince getting themselves fired...the Braxtons are a mess...I feel sorry for Toni
Thina Dlamini I remember Toni saying Oprah was really mean to her because she embarrassed her on her show lololol...but the reason for her failing career? I've never heard that but Toni got on Oprah's nerve bragging about materialist things when Oprah was trying to tell her about doing better with her money...look at what happened to Toni, twice and then a third time...oprah wanted to help her...I'm not saying Toni hasn't been wrong about anything BUT she still can have real honest feelings about her family
Why tawanda lying 😒 I’m sure her and Tamar wasn’t on good terms at the time and tawanda went behind Tamar back and told lonie that bit of information on that flight. Tamar and her whole family doesn’t know how to take accountability for anything
Everyone's asking where was the mother when Tamar was molested....I ask where was the brother and why he's never around or why wasn't he there at the therapy session? Was it the brother??? Hey stranger things have happened......🤷🏾♀️
Makeia Holloway. I was thinking the same thing about the brother. In this day and age, nothing is new under the sun. Since Traci admitted that she was too, you just have to wonder how could this have gone on under Ms. E's roof and she not know. She probably did know and being that the father was "spreading it wide and laying it low", her anger magnified at his adultery and lack of protection over her girls. Secrets is why these girls are close yet so far away from each other. Ms. E saw that Toni was blowing up and probably wanted her to come for her sisters to get them into a better environment. They got more than they could handle with stuff being revealed. Own up to it..from Pop Braxton all the way down to spoiled and animated Tamar.
Wayment! So earlier, Tamar said she didn't even tell Vince....but she told the NEW boyfriend. But in the radio interview she said that Vince DID know. Which is it? I can't with her.
She said she told her new boo. He’s one of the people. So we supposed to believe she never told Vince? Gtfoh. Tamar told her secret to alot of people now can’t keep up with it. One of sisters, or maybe even her mother told Iyanla about it during the sit downs.
I hope that Tamar and Traci find help. Having your innocence taken away from you is a struggle that I can’t come to explain the suffering it leaves you with. You are scarred for life. What is worse no one could see the scar. I understand I wish them peace.
Tamar wants to speak her truth but doesn't want to be accountable for her actions. This was Lonis' truth. She had every right to talk about her experience.
I dont agree w/ the Iyanla part, this is their problem... they want to cover and hide and they came to her and ASKED her to be truthful and heal their issues... so she tried to bring it all to light... they thought she was going to come to play but she came to work... the way Tamar disrespected that woman was unjustifiable considering the fact that she didnt ask to be here. That molestation is just one more secret they've swept under the rug in an attempt to protect 'the family'. Iyanla did her job... uncover and bring truth.
That woman was disrespectful as hell to Tamar. Tamar didn't even want to do it. And she was wrong as hell to speak on her molestation. Blindsiding her and fuck whoever (Towanda) that gave her that info
Romisha Franks you have an interesting idea of disrespect. The molestation blindsided her took from her someone comes to help her gain back the power and their disrespectful and wrong. What I can’t understand is why the she is still talking about something that devastated her, bull$#!% alert.
You're correct! But what is she to do after he hurt her music and TV careers? Even after making her believe her former co-hosts and sisters envied her? I see no way to get even with that whale except, God forbid, hiring a hitman.
I usually like Towanda, but this clapback is all about saving face. She's deflecting from the fact that this actually happened. Talking about "I got time today". You've always had time. You have nothing but time, what the hell else you got going on? They were asked a question and answered it. How many years ago were the conversations that you and your sisters keep bringing up? This lets me know that this family is not close and I feel Toni 100%. I love my family but I don't like my family. None of them.
AGREED! I used to empathize with Towanda feeling invisible, too. Until recently. Now, I realize her strategy to keep getting paid is to make Tamar look bad.
I don’t get why towanda said “y y’all still stalking about Tamar” tamar has talked about the situation ALOT and this is the first time that any of the other girls have talked about it and they get attacked for it
Unfortunately molestation is rampant and no one tells and it’s not talked about. It’s covered up. People just try to forget it happened and there is little to no healing on the victims part. Hopefully this will lead to healing for them all.
Iyanla has done some good with her particular style of counseling, but she has also done some bad. Her methods don't always achieve success the correct way. Yes, she can, & I have seen her be inappropriate, rude, unprofessional AND judgmental. You have to be careful with Iyanla. The counsel you get depends on her mood & tolerance level of the day. That is NOT what proper therapy is or does.
I love your commentary! You give insights on the subjects side, completed with your unbiased point of view! Thank you for a REAL breakdown of situations! 🤗🤗
Loni should not have called Towanda out like that. I mean [Sigh], she looked out for Loni because she knew how they ( Tamar & Vince) were. Loni could have not revealed who gave the heads up. IJS 🤷🏽♀️
Naw she should have revealed it because it gives her the credibility in that situation. I hate when people say something but don’t reveal who told them cause you do t know if someone really told them or if they are just making shit up. Tamar needs to take that up with her sister.
Towanda’s just trying to cover her own ass tbh. I believe she told Loni about the episode. Because why would Loni even lie and drag towanda into it if she didn’t say that? It wouldn’t make sense. I believe Vince was shady and hard to work with and told Tamar it was the girls fault to take the heat off him. Tamar probably had too much pride to come out and admit she was wrong.
How did Tamar lie? Her husbanger told her a lie, she trusted him blindly, and ran with it (even if she never publicly blamed her co-hosts for her firing).
Try having one of your sisters secretly rally up your other sisters against you (with cameras rolling) and tell me how you'd react: either defend yourself with all your might OR quit the show. Tamar seems to have opted for the latter option.
The Braxton Family Values needs to be off the air. This so much mess and so much drama. I pray for all of them and I hope they find joy and peace within themselves.
Thank you for calling out the parents. I have always felt her mom is shady and knowing her daughter were molested and the fact that they never bothered to talk about it shows how irresponsible and the lack of love the parents have for their kids...
It was all Vince I’m sure he loved to control her life
It was 100% Vince. I remember watching "Tamar & Vince", and Vince didn't even tell Tamar that she had an interview special before her concert. He also didn't tell Tamar that her band canceled on her right before her show, even though he knew about it. He kept her in the dark about A LOT of things and messed up her negotiations. Tamar still wants to protect him though. I believe Loni is telling the truth about Vince playing a major part in getting her fired
Ole slack-jawed ass....😒
You are being sarcastic right?
adrian Blackwell I don't think Towanda meant any harm tbh. She probably just said be sure to tune in to the show and Loni took it in a different context. It DOES happen, but ultimately I agree with the statement about Vince being behind her getting fired.
Wow that's crazy
Towanda never denied the conversation. She just says it was paraphrased. Meaning she did give Loni a heads up. I believe Loni is telling the truth.
I agree
Damn right
That part!!! I believe every word Loni said .. them sisters on the other hand not so much .. they stay hidin shit
gmcmim1 right so you’re guilty
gmcmim1 But Loni was wrong to tell the world that it was Towanda who gave her the heads up. She could have said a friend of hers who works at WeTv told her. Its not right to throw someone who is trying to help you under the bus like that. Towanda clearly felt that it was wrong for Tamar to lie about Loni being the cause of her dismissal from The Real and so she tried to help Loni but certainly NOT at the expense of her relationship with her sister. What Loni did was seriously not cool. This is just my opinion.
After being lied on for two years, Loni Love has a right to speak her truth to defend herself. So, what’s the problem?
Right on! Her message was clear "Your problems come from your own home ... beware!"
Yesss She Do.
Jobs never tell who they fire in regular work life so how would they know? If you are told then it is after that fact. I have seen people be fired and it is life like normal. Like it never happened. The only reason they would need to be told is if it was affecting their money.
joe lane I don’t blame jeannie for complaining about Tamar. That bitch bullied and belittled jeannie every chance she got.
this
I can’t blame Loni for clearing things up. Tamar made it seem like the girls got her fired
Shelia Daniel true
no vince did not tamar she didnt find out until later if you listen
Shelia Daniel She sure did. I saw Her IG post after the firing became public. She was being so FAKE ! Her Tamartian fans were trolling Loni and the rest of The Talk crew and TAMAR let them take all the social media backlash without saying a single word.
Shahauntay Shannelle bc she was told they got her fired and none of them reached out to her until she posted that post. So it was easily to believe. They knew she was fired and didn’t reach out to her, so she’s like they knew and didn’t say anything
@@naefranklin3181 LOL ! She knows that None of those women hold that type of clout. Tamar's husband Vincent was even a producer on the show. He didn't even stick up for her. Her own big mouth and nasty attitude got her fired, and instead of realizing that fact, she was quick to blame her coworkers and sat back and let the Tamartians DRAG them for filfth. I remember her whole dramatic post, she purposely made it seem like it was them. It was all done for sympathy. SMH
Tamar’s upset that Tamar’s actions got Tamar fired. This is misguided anger.
K.I. R Thanks. Thanks. Hi. Good. Too. Too
Tamar is narcissistic for a fact and she could have split personality disorder that has yet to be diagnosed! 🤷🏾♀️
Loni had EVERY RIGHT to come forward with the truth, Vince and the Braxton’s were about to throw her and the rest of the girls under the bus
dear rafa About to? Honey they did that like 2 years ago
How do you truly know that Loni is telling the truth
The truth will always come out sooner or later 😂
Casandra Morrow I don’t, but I know that Tamar’s reason for being fired has been so vague and someone has to know something. Also I don’t trust Vince, something about him and the beating accusations are all fishy 🤔
dear rafa Nothing about that emergency taping pointed the finger at her co-host for getting her fired and to this day, Tamar has NEVER said that Loni, Adrienne, or any of her co-host were responsible....she said at the time that SHE DID NOT KNOW, but suspected that someone stabbed her in the back. Please show me the receipts where Tamar specifically blamed her co-hosts.
I agree with you that Tamar didn’t know why she got fired originally, but then she did so instead of apologizing she ran with insinuations to save face. Lonnie and the ladies deserve much respect for taking the high road all this time, especially with the way they have been attacked. They were asked and have a right to tell their truth. I don’t feel that Towanda did anything wrong and exercised integrity and protected her sister at the same time. She was actually throwing Vince under the rug because the girls were already mad at him and he was about to put Tamar and WeTV in a defamation lawsuit, so she did have her sisters back in the big scheme of things. Tamar’s immaturity and self centeredness can’t allow her to see the forest for the trees. She like to hold her sisters emotionally hostage and they go for it because that is how their mother has always done all of them, including daddy Braxton. I’m sorry these girls were molested by people they trusted like so many of us, but that is no excuse for her lies on Inyanla and constantly acting out like a bratty child. I pray the entire family seeks help or they are going to continue to crash and burn like so many!
TRESEA GREEN
This could not have been said better!!💖💖💖
I agree!
Really? Who told you that?
..."Crash & Burn" just happens to be an album title.
TRESEA GREEN ✊🏿👍🏿🙌🏿
I don’t understand why the network don’t say why Tamar was fired. Why allow the girls to get dragged knowing they didn’t have nothing to do with it
Do u understand how business is done? Why would they?
Because the tape showing machiavellic Vince blaming the girls was retracted
Edelyne I don’t think they are legally allowed to publicly discuss a person’s contract. Vince knew all the time because he is her manager and negotiated the deal, so of course he made the other ladies the skate-goat in his manipulation.
Exactly 🤦🏾♀️
Edelyne PR reasons.
Tamar shouldn’t be mad that Towanda told Loni, she saved y’all from legal action, and Towanda sounds dumb because the ladies of the Real were ASKED about the Tamar situation.
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No wonder Toni said if they weren't sister theu wouldnt be friends. They live to sabotage eachother. Except Toni, she's just trying to sing and do what she loves. I hope they can get it together.
ShadesOf Shan Wow now that’s deep!!!
Toni was same back in the day. Millions in debt. Blamed everyone. Got called out by Oprah in interview about responsibility. Toni said O was rude. That family is fucked up. No damn sense.
ShadesOf Shan h
No, Toni is just as dysfunctional as the rest. Not as loud, but just as messy. It's the quiet ones you keep an eye on.
Lorie M. Word
Loni had a right to clear their name...I would have. Loni was getting death threats and was pulled through the ringer more than the rest of them. Towanda needs to let that one go!
Exactly!!!!!!
Right! Loni & the crew talked about it because the interviewers asked them about it not because they just want to sit up & talk about Tamar!
Wow, I didn't know that the drama went that far 😳
Just like iyanla said they are always lying to each other
Right... I call bs Iyanla would have never done anything like this, Tamar is lashing out at the wrong one.
Safiya Roble yeppppppppp
Patrice Waters - Traci at the 8:52 mark saying “you have to watch BFV” pertaining to the molestation conversation should tell you that it WAS indeed filmed, spoken about and likely shared in front of a bunch of people. I’m SURE if that part wasn’t true, Iyanla would have spoke up and said it wasn’t, because she has spoken out on Tamar & she never mentioned that part. On the show, they showed that each sister had a separate & private talk with Iyanla EXCEPT for Tamar. Don’t be so quick to put something past Iyanla like that, just because you dislike Tamar. She even diagnosed her outside of the sessions to strangers and she’s not even a therapist nor doctor.
When a guilty person gets called out they cant take it....Iyanla stepped on Tamar soul because she let her ass have it!
I agree with you. It would nullify her reason for coming to assist. She wouldn't be apart of the mess. Tamra is messy AF.@@assatanoir86
Towanda tryna save face- she’s FAKE... she doesn’t need to be acting up like that. They spoke about Tamar ONCE while Tamar was dragging their name through the mud multiple times 😒
Edit: It was all Vince! What a manipulative, envious, slack jawed, good for nothing “husband” he was 😩
Shanxce _ right cause she never denied saying that when she ran into Loni
Whoa that is NOT true!
The ladies have done multiple interviews actually about Tamar’s firing, to the point where Tamar had to publicly ask for them not to speak on her anymore: ua-cam.com/video/Ne9_Lr3SReI/v-deo.html You can search UA-cam for all the interviews. However, this IS the first time Loni revealed these details. When Tamar did her interviews, she NEVER “dragged their name through the mud” that’s a heavy statement. She just always said she thought they were her friends. You can also UA-cam her interviews as well.
Exactly Towanda wasnt talking to Tamar at that time. So she must definitely gave Loni the heads up..
T Essence she insinuated that they were the reason for her being fired and they got DRAAAGED... and she did nothing about it- she didn’t clearly state that they didn’t and allowed her fans to attack them. Even when she became aware of the truth she said nothing 😩 AND she shaded them on instagram MULTIPLE times whew chile she messy af
She lied to keep the peace. She should have come out and said she warned Lonnie as a way to keep Tamar for digging a bigger hole for herself w/Vince.
Just like Iyanla said.....they’re not Honest with each other and don’t take Ownership.
So true
Fatema Aries ll 0
So many families are like that.
That's 💯 for sure they never have and probably never will it's a Damm shame the Braxton need to own there truth and find some common ground with each other!!!
Iyanla doesn't mince any words!
*Tamar blames anyone but herself and Vince why is that 🤔*
soshi stars yassss chaeyoung
Because she's a spoiled, self-centered, narcissistic drama queen
She has absolutely no right to clap back at loni, she’s just trying to hurry and respond so that Tamar won’t be mad at her. She should have kept her mouth closed. She can’t be mad at Loni for telling the truth. Those girls went through so much hate because people thought they were the ones that got Tamar fired and Tamar never spoke up.
@Dante Dyer...exactly!! and even before their interview, Loni has still been getting hateful comments regarding the situation.
Tamar won't ever apologise, Tamar and Vince plan back fired the truth came out Tamar never own the truth, her truth is it lies ,lies to be raised in church what values God is the truth and light .Tamar can't get along with any one . she is self destructive.point blank.i knew after Braxton Family Values she would be be back at the same thing
I'm glad Loni exposed one half of the culprits behind Tamar's stained image.
I don't like Tamar. Sorry
So she should be loyal to Tamar just because she’s her sister? nahh. This situation made Loni and the other women look bad. Family or not I believe in HONESTY
To be honest (no pun intended lol)...Towanda should've just directed that to Tamar in a private convo. Just keep it real with her and say, "Now Tay, you know DAMN well those girls didn't get you fired. You gotta make it right/exonerate them, etc etc". For Towanda to give Loni a "heads up" is not a good look. Always keep it real, but keep it real with your fam, not their enemies. You know?
Brenda What!!?I’m lying and dying for mines period.My loyalty set up different. Towanda should have never spoke to her, she didn’t have to lie. That’s fam u don’t talk to the enemy. Whether on a plane, train, automobile. That was Vince and Tamar business to tell. That ain’t Towanda job or husband, everybody do like Toni and mind y’all business.
SMALLZZZ SMALLZZZ Okay! Yes! Towanda should’ve acted like she didn’t know Lonie on that plane. 🤷🏽♀️
@@coillest8628 but they weren't the enemy Vince was, and Tamar was blind to her husbands words. Tamar is stubborn to the point of no return ans her ego is huge she hates admiting she's wrong.. Her sister telling Loni the truth isn't wrong because I'm sure if Towanda told Tamar your Husband is a liar she wouldn't listen.
Brenda I agree with you, Towanda has integrity and that is why they call her the Secret Squirrel, but she needs to stand in her truth and let Tamar be where she is because if it isn’t this it will be something else with the drama queen!
In the words of Monique, "When you do clownery, the clown comes back to bite"....cough cough Tamar...
I like that
Tamar wants to be Toni so bad . The Braxtons all BORING except Toni
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COillest 💯🎤🔥
That makes no sense
Tamar spends SO much time being mad with folks .
Truth is she is hurting, dont know how to forget past sexual abuse and probably blams herself, very common trait of child sexually abused children. So she is angry with herself just takes her self hatred out on everyone else.
I think she's just sad and afraid and tired.
Charene Neal It’s tiresome. She’s not a child. She needs to go to counseling and leave everyone else alone.
Exactly. I think that Tamar is bipolar.
Tamar just take the "L" and apologize to Loni and the girls...Vince is behind it and love controlling her life! Loni has no real reason to lie on Tamar... Now Towanda trying to damage control all of sudden.
She dont know how to do that at all
I'm so tired of Tamar, I Want to go back to only knowing Toni
What did Tamar do wrong in this video?
@@amazingg8238 here we go again , who said she did anything in this video
In a perfect world we could. Lol
Yup. The days when Toni had her music videos on and she was the only Braxton on tv. “Unbreak my heart” and He wasn’t man enough for me” were bops hahaha
Right!
Tamar owes the girls an apology.
No because loni spelt the tea and names!
@@portiawatsonpw I Agree I Don't like Jeanie and Yes She is seems Fake to me! I Really don't think she like Tamar Either.
BeautifullyFlawed Why are you capitalizing random words? 😩😂
No she doesn't...no matter what she said or done she doesn't have to apologizes.
@ Thank you
I noticed that in African American families when tend to sweep sexual abuse under the rug. I don't think people realize that molestation really messes with you psychologically and emotionally. And to know that these some of these family members knew and STILL have the abuser around their children is just sickening. Despite the sisters behaviors, I really hope that they get the therapy and help they need in order to heal from the trauma impacting their family.
idreamoftea 89, you are so right!!! It's always a kept secret!!! I learned a few years ago that the reason a person can have so many victims is because people keep quiet and don't won't it to come out!!!!
@@thasalee3375 I always say that secrets hurt people
Black families aren't the only ones that do that nonsense
idreamoftea 89 it’s more of an American thing, not just blacks. It’s rooted In American culture
Sexual abuse in the family tends to be a secret in many families. I hope more and more sex abuse survivors free themselves and open up to a safe person so that their healing can begin. Everyone should be able to feel loved and safe within their own body.
How Tawanda claiming she was unnecessarily dragged into the situation when she dragged herself into it? Girl bye! 🙄🙄🙄
I believe Loni, who cares if Tamar is mad, she stays mad at people.
Clodia F Thank you 😊 They love to put Tamar in bad light‼️ Even when she does anything
No one has to put her in a bad light, she does a good job on her own.
I heard them say VINCE blamed the girls and somehow it’s Tamar who did it?? Smh. People love to hate her don’t they. HE WAS HER MANAGER!!! He very much got her fired. And I’m sure IF she ever mentioned the fake girls from the real (besides Loni because she’s the only real one) it was based off of what Vince told her AFTER he got her fired. Why do people act like this is impossible to believe?? There is a such things as a bad manager ya know smh 🤦🏾♀️
Towanda girl . . . shut up. They were keeping it real. They were on a radio show and the host ASKED them about the situation. Not to mention, this was literally the first time that the girls have really really spoken up about it. Loni did that one little video after it all went down, but other than that, they have not spoked about it. Especially since Tamar even asked that The Real not mention her name (which they did not) Loni and the other girls really did not do any wrong by finally speaking up and giving their side of the story cause Tamar has had numerous times to give her side. The ladies of the The Real ain't sitting around constantly thinking about you. Tamar was always a hit or miss with me on the show, although majority of the time she was a miss for me. Although there were times when I liked and agree with her, she got on my nerves most of the time. Seems like her and some of her sisters are just drawn to drama.
Tamar never takes responsibility for anything she’s done. Tamar is always blaming everyone else, producers, networks, cast mates, Iyanla, her family, etc... it’s exhausting 🙄😫
Right! She's one of the executive producers of their show, so she knows the game.
I so agree. Such a horrible trait to have.
I fucking hate Tamar for that very reason.
Because that's how she was raised
Exactly...playing the victim role..
The reality show Braxton Family Values actually trashed the BRAXTON FAMILY Name and did nothing Positive for their Family image... Reality shows are sometimes more damaging than good, this is certainly one show that did just that!!
I'm late.... but this is so true.
She's blaming everybody but Vince 🙄
Bc that was her husband and she trusted him with her business and personal life. He never did the shit to Toni so she’s like why would he do it with me
@@naefranklin3181 yea but the truth is out, they're divorce and she's still blaming everybody but him. I understand it can be embrassing but sometimes you gotta own up to your mistake. Also correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she (Tamar) confide in someone about Vince hold her & her career back?? I think the person was Loni I can't remember correctly.
shannie Sayers well she got a divorce
Vince was never the problem.
Power of dick
Vince look like somebody’s nubs when they bite their nails 🤮
I believe Loni 😒
Yes
I do too
I really do not like the fact that Tamar is including these ladies. Loni and the ladies are super cool. They are messy and sorry. Towanda have a real real seat!! I have time also!
Yea! Towanda's side sounds sketchy! But Tamar behaviour is like a fem gay boy! She's also fake! I really want to see her real self! And then may be I will like her!
This happens when you blindly believe what your husbanger tells you, sadly.
The only positive thing Towanda said about Tamar's talent when asked? Tamar fasts a lot! Enough said.
OMG Finally someone see through this bs!! Tamar and Vince was tryna do something backhanded together. But that seems like everyone now day, instead of taking the blame or admitting faults, everyone deflects
@bigjayking24 get outta here, shrek!!!
I think they wanted to become executive producers of the show...
@@MST82 tamar was always lying about how thr show was built around her. Very possible. Whats interesting is that errybody is blaming vince
I doubt she was lying. I think she wanted to add "Co-producer of a Popular Talk Show" to her resume.
To be honest, The Real is much better without her 🤷🏾♀️
89LadyB thank you
I agree! Her personality is over the top and she's so extra!!
Ratings say otherwise
when it comes to molestation you can't always blame the parents. It happens more than people know and usually by someone the family members trust and also most times the victims never tell out of embarrassment, blaming themselves, or not wanting the parents to blame themselves.
You know Towanda is lying bc she had to write all of that to defend herself. Let's not pretend like Towanda doesn't have a past of telling her sister's business.
That dont mean it aint true
Tamar owes the girls an apology & I hope she does apologize and mend her friendships with the ladies and hopefully can one day get her job back🙏
Beautynbrainz26 No, she don’t need to be back on the show because too much has happened and the dynamics will not be right due to a lack of trust!
TRESEA GREEN Exactly, they will always look at her different after this. So, the best they can do is just be cordial like they have been over the last couple years.
TRESEA GREEN Well that as well.. But her career really failed and a lot of opportunities failed too while being managed by Vince.. So I just want to see her get her life back but at the very least she can apologize to the girls and move on!!
Beautynbrainz26 I think she should too but I can only imagine the journey she's on trying to not only heal from this but evaluating how it has affected her life and the decisions she's made... On top of that, clearly she wasn't ready to talk about the molestation but it got tossed out there so she's dealing with not just people who didn't know now knowing but THE WORLD knowing. She's probably goin through a ton of internal warfare but once she finds her peace Im sure she will mend fences with the ladies of the real but tbh an apology to them would be the last thing on my mind she needs to heal from this first. (Not to mention all of what she went through behind closed doors with Vince)
I AM 💯I agree
These damn braxtons are draining!! They need to stay off social media. Long ass paragraphs. I see why Toni can't stand them
Could explain why 🎤Toni's always late! 😮😔💅
Rachael Bluee drained toni to the core
Facts
🤣🤣🤣🤣At long paragraphs
Some many hurtful secrets in families. Victims just try to block out the abuse and push pass life but at some point you have to deal with the pain
Truthful statement
I believe loni 100% Tamar spoke about the girls alot of times let loni speak the truth n stop blaming her finally her name is cleared
The Braxton’s are always victims...smh
Tamar's always the victim while the others are doing the work.
Not just Tamar but her fans also needs to apologize to these girls.
Thank you for saying that. 😊
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Girl bye.
@@leiamccampbell9238 lol tamartians are #triggered
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As talented as I think Tamar is, I've noticed that she never takes accountability for her actions. She owes the ladies of the real a huge apology for all the accusations. Another thing that annoys me is how she would often use the term "alpha" in reference to herself.
The reality is, everything she's portrayed herself as was simply a facade. I hope all the sisters, especially Tamar and Traci heal from the past. Great video, I enjoyed it immensely!
Anji Rnkr, i agree with u, she probly should apologize for false accusations, although it's an irritant to u, referring to self as an alpha may in fact be a confidence-builder or "beast" affirmation of herself and needed to keep her "up". Btw,I loove your hair! Beautiful!!!
She never will. She's always the victim 😏
She doesn't owe them 💩
@@leiamccampbell9238 lol
If you know some about astrology: Tamar's South Node is in Aries. So, she IS an impatient, aggressive, fiery go-getter.
honestly family secrets go deep with a lot of families when it happened to me and my sister it was a shock because we never thought our own family members would try something with us like that my mother did not know at the time but we did tell her. Sometimes the mothers are blind sided to what goes on with there children especially when a family member does it. They are in a shock as well now if its a parent that has had it happen to them then you get an complete different response to the situation my theory is if anyone is hurting you speak on it don't hold it don't carry the memory of it because if you do it will effect you in future relationships. This is the reason why women today have so many trust issues. Its hard to trust someone when you being hurt by your own blood. I pray for anyone who has ever been through that. God bless you all.
Kenia Moore God Bless You
@Allison Jackson you are a very strong and courageous woman. But you being able to move on is the hardest thing but they no longer have power over you because you survived it and your able to tell your testimony. I'm so sorry you went through that it's a horrible thing especially when your blood does it to you. But glory to God. Your ok now.
@Allison Jackson You are very welcome and your right we do have to build eachother so we can continue to build strong woman for the future to come.
@Redd E Foe no
Kenia Moore thanks
I really thought this interview was going to bring the girls back together as friends.... i saw nothing wrong with anything they said they said they always supported her and loved her and they still have the same numbers.... this is called itching for a beef 🤦🏾♀️
Tamer and her new man
Tamar is never accountable for anything that she does, period. Nothing is ever her fault, even after 40, so I have a hard time taking her versions of events seriously.
exactly b/c that is not the same thing she told Wendy about Iyanla. She said that Iyanla mentioning her molestation had nothing to do with her issues now, so she didn’t know why Iyanla was bringing up irrelevant stuff
Same here!!! Her childish ways are exhausting. Like lady grow up!
@@teelc7044 Exactly!
It’s got to be exhausting to be around her. She lies and manipulates the conversation so that she’s always a victim. Can’t believe people still defend her.
I swear this family gravitates towards drama like no other
Nah the trophy goes to the kardashains then⤵ the braxtons
Voss she would never admit it
That helps their reality show -- drama!!!
@@Shakira98 Nah all the khardashians do is sleep with black dick and post nudes. The braxtons have real drama.
It keeps them relevant.
Can the Braxtons please detox from the spot light? Take a break from all forms of media!
The spotlight suits 2.5 of them and is unflattering to the remaining 2.5.
True is true, boo. ;)
Lashone Tuff please we getting sick of them
Lashone Tuff LET THE CHURCH SAY...AMEN....
MST82 ......OMG!!...ha ha ha!!.....
Tamar got caught in a lie which I believe didn't start out as one but Vince manipulated her and that situation SO bad just because she wanted a new manager (we see how well that went). Vince had it planned out all along (funny I haven't heard him say a word on the divorce, on Tamar getting fired or any of the drama surrounding Tamar). Towanda TRIED to play the good sister (as she always has, until it blew up in her face) but in this case, her name got mentioned so now she's quick to defend herself and her sister to save face. You see how Loni never responded?? If Loni had never come forward, which I'm glad she did because this has been a subject for far too long, Towanda wouldn't have to get defensive, not to mention, Tamar kept quiet about it. When does she ever?! Guilty as charged. Tamar - Lie. Towanda - Lie. Vince - Lie.
Vince had her fired because he was tired of her telling her business on the air.
To be honest I never cared for Tamar on the Real, she was always rude to Jeannie. But, Tamar never was disciplined to take accountability for your mistake and own up too it. Loni is really telling the truth you can hear the hurt in her voice. The Real is really genuine people. Loni needed the get that issue of her chest some people need to get off their chest.
If I was the ladies of the Real Talk Show I would've been came out and said the reason Tamar was let go from the show enough of letting people drag your name thru the mud. Damn a lawsuit and be done I think the public was dragging these ladies because Tamar was let go and they were totally innocent from the start....
Ms Cherry Bear took the words right out of my mouth!
But, you know it's good they let Tamar and Vince go on a pity tour first. Now they both look petty and crazy. Vince is such a coward I can't stand him.
Yes they should have! Instead of waiting for a family that everyone see's is in a healing process now & to come up with this old ass bs now to try and start some more family drama or drama period! I think they did this bs for some more TV ratings too. Hope Tamar don't feed into this yrs later bs bye the real foh
Marsha Eafen I agree with you I wouldn't of let it go on for one day, they should've shut it down immediately and this crap would've been over and this family of sister's can heal and love each other right!!!!
They probably were under a gag order at the time. Remember they were on hiatus at the time and didn't even know she had been fired.
She should of kept her mouth shut Loni as no reason to lie
I believe Lonni, the Braxtons are a mess bro...
I am so sorry that the molestation happened and I can truly sympathize with them because I cannot believe she would lie about something so horrible and traumatic. However, the fact that she was molested was never discussed it nor was it brought up in either episodes. Tamar was confronted about being late and her behavior and that is why she stormed out. Hell I don't remember her storming out they took a break... along one but a break. I personally cannot believe that Iyanla would violate her like that. Also, no one in the family ever brought up the fact the Iyanla disrespected Tamar. She went on those shows to do damage control before the show aired but given the backlash I don't think it worked out in her favor. I am praying she finds some peace and they find healing.
Only reason I'd believe it might have happened to Tamar is because Traci claimed it happened to her.
Love the video and I do agree that Lone was clearing the air and telling the truth.. and Towanda is just trying to save Face..
That's exactly what it was
Taneya Queenie I agree with you but Loni was wrong to tell the world that it was Towanda who gave her the heads up. She could have said a friend of hers who works at WeTv told her. Its not right to throw someone who is trying to help you under the bus like that. Towanda clearly felt that it was wrong for Tamar to lie about Loni being the cause of her dismissal from The Real and so she tried to help Loni but certainly NOT at the expense of her relationship with her sister. What Loni did was seriously not cool. This is just my opinion.
bigjayking24 If it was a mistake then why did she remember to omit the name of the person from WeTv who told her that there is a rough edit where Vince named her and the other ladies as the cause for Tamar's dismissal? But she cant remember to omit Towanda's name?
TOWANDA F.... UP GOSSIPING ABOUT SHIT AND IT BACK FIRED IN HER AND VINCE FACE ALSO TAMAR FACE TOO SHE JUMP THE GUN ON THE LADIES ON THE REAL AND MADE THINGS WORST THAN IT WAS HER MAN DID THIS TO HER SHE NEEDS TO CONFRONT HIM.
and where was Evelyn when both her daughters were being molested by both sides of the family? SMH
Running behind a man that had moved on
that shit hit me deep
Keeping her mouth shut . worrying but what her husband was doing....she was faking church...
@@YouKnowMe2011 wowwwww...that hit me in the gut....
That’s not fair.
GOD is trying to tell Tamar it's time to change.
Yeah, to trust her gut and stop thinking ALL her family wants the best for her.
When the family met with T.D Jake's it was made very clear that her family didn't embrace her blessings!!!! And T.D Jake's clearly seen who the Real trouble maker's were!!!!!
Yep. You're right. I saw that myself. The show has turned into Lets-All-Hate-On-Tamar for the past 4 seasons ever since Tamar shot to unexpected musical fame. *They forgot that God blesses whomever HE wants with likability!* If her sisters REALLY went into the show thinking they had ANY inkling of chance to make it big in the music industry, then they're more naive than they look on my TV.
MST82 Exactly!!!!!!😎
Dear Father, we pray that You heal Towanda's green heart from envy and stop her devil-red tongue from contaminating her sisters' hearts. Amen. ;)
I've always refused to believe Towanda was in it to sabotage Tamar, but Facts Are Facts! Towanda has hated Tamar for: *being the baby* _(confessed to Iyanla back in 2004),_ *leaving an unsuccessful trio to go solo, marrying up, being the undisputed show star from day 1;* and for *finding success at 36, in an ageist industry, at a time R&B was on breath support!*
Towanda's revenge becomes all too clear when she sets up short-fused Tamar to burst.
Why would you light your impulsive sister's wick, with a camera rolling, if not to tarnish
her public image, make her lose credibility, and yank her down to your likability level?!?
I got reason to believe Towanda's become nicer to her sis _only after_ Tamar (in this order):
*1- almost died and couldn't go on to win Dancing With The Stars* _(a gig Towanda wanted)_
*2- was let go of The Real* _(Gone from 4 networks to the only 1 her sisters TRY to shine on)_
*3- saw the public increasingly bash her character* _(Towanda's chance to be a TV darling)_
*4- sold less* _(Towanda is glad "often-flat" Tamar's career looks as promising as hers now)_
*5- filed for divorce* _(Towanda is relieved the object of her envy is as much of a "failure")_ and
*6- quit BFV* _(Towanda's time to prove she and the show can be fun without its breakout star)_
And don't get me started how she turned happy-go-lucky Trina into an automatic Tayhater.
PUHthetic.
MST82 Damn...I can’t find any lies
No lying needed, Nicole. Facts are facts. Especially when they're documented.
Well there it is. WHOA!! You broke that ALL the way down.
Thank you! I LIVE for the truth. And in Towanda's words "I have time today." ;)
MST82 Man I have been saying this for yeeeeaaaarrrrssss and no one would believe me!!! Thank you for breaking this down. It was like as soon as Tamar popped Towanda and Trina just appeared to ALWAYS be hating and never supportive!!!
Tamar's weaves are horrible. She looks so much better bald.
Too bad her heart doesn’t look as good
Why is Towanda mad.🤨 She did the right thing by telling Loni it wasn’t her fault. Yet bc someone’s mad at you, now you want to kiss a**. Say what you mean and mean what you say.
kimmie pie cause Towanda doesn’t matter and she knows it! She doesn’t want Tamar mad at her. She knows Toni and Tamar are the important ones. That’s why Toni could sit there and say she wouldn’t be friends with anyone in here family if they weren’t family and nothing was said about it. That’s why
Tamar can't keep a friend, can't keep a husband, can't keep a job, can't keep a stylist, can't keep a hairline and can't keep her damn mouth shut! I'm done with her, and her immature family! Go ahead Loni, we support you!
Her hairline tho? 😂🤣😂🤣
cant keep a hairline hahahah, thought i was the only one whoo hated tht cut on her
She just a can't keep ass throw the whole Tamar away .
that's a lie about the husband though, she divorced him.
@@nickym4153 Yes she did
Luv the consistency with ur videos!
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U love the lies she tell
I could definitely tell that when iyana was picking tamar card on why she acts the way she acts that it was leading to being molested and tamar was getting upset because without it actually being said , what iyana observed was actually true. Tamar didnt know how to handle that situation so like with every situation she encounters, she just left to get her mind together. I really truly believe that iyana is great at what she does and truly is trying to help our community by being open with the issues that we faced in our life but sometimes her tacts can be bothersome.
Okay so how bout we just acknowledge Toni & keep it moving.
I'm still trying to figure out how Tamar thinks it's OK to be mad at anyone in this situation besides Vince?? He's the core of this whole fiasco. Cuz if the tables were turned she'd be upset at whomever for not giving her a heads up about the shady underhandedness at play to make her look like she was the blame to get someone else fired.. Like I get the loyalty thing but whatever happened to having your fellow woman's back, true sisterhood doesn't mean u gotta be related by blood to look out for another woman, ijs...
I agree.
Amen 🙏 my thoughts exactly‼️
Tamar is never NOT the victim..😑
She is Vince lied to her .
why didn't she blame him I always knew it had something to do with him. her pride won't allow her to apologize to them.
He has too much dirt/control on her. He, probably, could have her killed. Didn't stop him from killing her public persona. Remember how he slammed the house's door shut and left her on the driveway on the way back from the delivery room?
Wow! Can't believe this is even on subject. She was fired. Tamar has moved on, the show has moved on. Let there be peace and put this matter to bed.
You really can’t put it to rest because ppl want to know why she was fired. I loved all the ladies together on the show it’s messed up and for anyone to keep up the drama and continue to distance a friendship they all had for each other is SAD! They were and are there for each other. If Vince did have something to do with the firing she need to be REAL about it and discuss it but of course that won’t happen because she will have to admit her wrong doing. I like Tamar but she has many flaws when it comes to her admitting she’s wrong. Good luck to them all!!
Your narration over this video was so good - very fair love it
I'm glad Loni was able to clear her and the girls names, FINALLY...they have the right to tell their side of the story after Tamar LIED instead of taking responsibility for her and Vince getting themselves fired...the Braxtons are a mess...I feel sorry for Toni
Let's not a certain Braxton sister once blamed Oprah Winfrey for her failing career sips tea
Thina Dlamini I remember Toni saying Oprah was really mean to her because she embarrassed her on her show lololol...but the reason for her failing career? I've never heard that but Toni got on Oprah's nerve bragging about materialist things when Oprah was trying to tell her about doing better with her money...look at what happened to Toni, twice and then a third time...oprah wanted to help her...I'm not saying Toni hasn't been wrong about anything BUT she still can have real honest feelings about her family
Why tawanda lying 😒 I’m sure her and Tamar wasn’t on good terms at the time and tawanda went behind Tamar back and told lonie that bit of information on that flight. Tamar and her whole family doesn’t know how to take accountability for anything
yeah
NIECY MAJOR FACTS!!
Seems like Towanda hasn't been on good terms with Tamar since birth. She blatantly stated it to Iyanla as far back as 2004.
LONI LOVE IS SPEAKIN FACTS TOWANDA RAN HER MOUTH!!!!
tamar face look horrible i think she had work done and not good work
Okay but why you gotta comment on her appearance. Talk about the things she's done
NewBorn Babe Yes. And. Yes. Great. Goodness. Hi
Everyone's asking where was the mother when Tamar was molested....I ask where was the brother and why he's never around or why wasn't he there at the therapy session? Was it the brother??? Hey stranger things have happened......🤷🏾♀️
Makeia Holloway I wondered that too!! Then I thought he might not want them filming him in his safe haven
He knew from day one that a mess is inevitable, so he avoided it. He's a nurse and has no time for shenanigans like that, I guess.
Makeia Holloway. I was thinking the same thing about the brother. In this day and age, nothing is new under the sun. Since Traci admitted that she was too, you just have to wonder how could this have gone on under Ms. E's roof and she not know. She probably did know and being that the father was "spreading it wide and laying it low", her anger magnified at his adultery and lack of protection over her girls. Secrets is why these girls are close yet so far away from each other. Ms. E saw that Toni was blowing up and probably wanted her to come for her sisters to get them into a better environment. They got more than they could handle with stuff being revealed. Own up to it..from Pop Braxton all the way down to spoiled and animated Tamar.
Do you mean on the show? He was smart and passed lol
HE PROBABLY KNEW WHO DID IT...WHAT A HOT MESS!!!
Wayment! So earlier, Tamar said she didn't even tell Vince....but she told the NEW boyfriend. But in the radio interview she said that Vince DID know. Which is it? I can't with her.
Even SHE can't keep up with her on lies.
No she didn’t she said she told two ppl and she never said who the other person was. It’s on Wendy.
She said she told her new boo. He’s one of the people. So we supposed to believe she never told Vince? Gtfoh. Tamar told her secret to alot of people now can’t keep up with it. One of sisters, or maybe even her mother told Iyanla about it during the sit downs.
Exactly I remember that
I hope that Tamar and Traci find help. Having your innocence taken away from you is a struggle that I can’t come to explain the suffering it leaves you with. You are scarred for life. What is worse no one could see the scar. I understand I wish them peace.
This conversation is OVERRATED
I agree 100%.
Allison Hall yesss
the answers just came a couple days ago
My heart goes out to them all I agree with you they all need healing and deliverance. 🙏🏽❤️
Tamar wants to speak her truth but doesn't want to be accountable for her actions. This was Lonis' truth. She had every right to talk about her experience.
I dont agree w/ the Iyanla part, this is their problem... they want to cover and hide and they came to her and ASKED her to be truthful and heal their issues... so she tried to bring it all to light... they thought she was going to come to play but she came to work... the way Tamar disrespected that woman was unjustifiable considering the fact that she didnt ask to be here. That molestation is just one more secret they've swept under the rug in an attempt to protect 'the family'. Iyanla did her job... uncover and bring truth.
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That woman was disrespectful as hell to Tamar. Tamar didn't even want to do it. And she was wrong as hell to speak on her molestation. Blindsiding her and fuck whoever (Towanda) that gave her that info
I agree
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Romisha Franks you have an interesting idea of disrespect. The molestation blindsided her took from her someone comes to help her gain back the power and their disrespectful and wrong. What I can’t understand is why the she is still talking about something that devastated her, bull$#!% alert.
The only person that should be mad is Tamar..and she should be mad at Vince.
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Why
Why? About losing the job?
Right he lied to her and was trying to make it something that it wasn’t
You're correct! But what is she to do after he hurt her music and TV careers? Even after making her believe her former co-hosts and sisters envied her? I see no way to get even with that whale except, God forbid, hiring a hitman.
I usually like Towanda, but this clapback is all about saving face. She's deflecting from the fact that this actually happened. Talking about "I got time today". You've always had time. You have nothing but time, what the hell else you got going on? They were asked a question and answered it. How many years ago were the conversations that you and your sisters keep bringing up? This lets me know that this family is not close and I feel Toni 100%. I love my family but I don't like my family. None of them.
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AGREED! I used to empathize with Towanda feeling invisible, too. Until recently. Now, I realize her strategy to keep getting paid is to make Tamar look bad.
Yep she is Shady as hell
lol towanda wrote a damn paragraph but didn’t say nothing at all😅
Exactly
I don’t get why towanda said “y y’all still stalking about Tamar” tamar has talked about the situation ALOT and this is the first time that any of the other girls have talked about it and they get attacked for it
Unfortunately molestation is rampant and no one tells and it’s not talked about. It’s covered up. People just try to forget it happened and there is little to no healing on the victims part. Hopefully this will lead to healing for them all.
April Marie so who actually molested Tamar?
Molestation, rape, sexual assault, or any type of violation should never be taken lightly and should never be swept under the rug!
Tamar is a known liar. Iyanla would never reveal a 'secret' like that about her. This woman will do anything to make people see her as the victim.
Iyanla is full of shit rude and disrespectful
Um, sure ..... whatever you say, Tamar.
Romisha Franks
You need iyanla girl
Iyanla has done some good with her particular style of counseling, but she has also done some bad. Her methods don't always achieve success the correct way. Yes, she can, & I have seen her be inappropriate, rude, unprofessional AND judgmental. You have to be careful with Iyanla. The counsel you get depends on her mood & tolerance level of the day. That is NOT what proper therapy is or does.
@@sybilanurse1338 I agree with you wholeheartedly!
I love your commentary! You give insights on the subjects side, completed with your unbiased point of view! Thank you for a REAL breakdown of situations! 🤗🤗
Mike Carter Right absolutely not lol. Especially when it comes to Cardi B and Nicki Minaj
Loni should not have called Towanda out like that. I mean [Sigh], she looked out for Loni because she knew how they ( Tamar & Vince) were. Loni could have not revealed who gave the heads up. IJS 🤷🏽♀️
I agree. Why would you cause tension in a relationship that was already rocky?
Naw she should have revealed it because it gives her the credibility in that situation. I hate when people say something but don’t reveal who told them cause you do t know if someone really told them or if they are just making shit up. Tamar needs to take that up with her sister.
That picture of Towanda at 4:55 took me outta here. 😂💀
Towanda’s just trying to cover her own ass tbh. I believe she told Loni about the episode. Because why would Loni even lie and drag towanda into it if she didn’t say that? It wouldn’t make sense. I believe Vince was shady and hard to work with and told Tamar it was the girls fault to take the heat off him. Tamar probably had too much pride to come out and admit she was wrong.
Why is this family constantly pointing fingers at others for their dysfunction? 🤷♀️. Loni was asked a question and she explained her side of it.
Exactly and it is the first time she fully addressed it in public.
They're not dysfunctional. One member influences the others against Tamar.
point blank period.
Tamar is a liar. Unfortunately.
Facts
How did Tamar lie? Her husbanger told her a lie, she trusted him blindly, and ran with it (even if she never publicly blamed her co-hosts for her firing).
Enjoyed. One of the few youtubers I just show up for. Don't need the notifications because I checking for your work. Still clicked the bell though.
-I love how Toni is the most humble and realest one always there for everybody
Can y’all watch the video first before commenting? Lol
Right lol
I always watch videos before commenting!
Tamar is soo rude and petty toward her own sisters, I’m not surprised she would act this way toward the ladies from the real
Try having one of your sisters secretly rally up your other sisters against you (with cameras rolling) and tell me how you'd react: either defend yourself with all your might OR quit the show. Tamar seems to have opted for the latter option.
The Braxton Family Values needs to be off the air. This so much mess and so much drama. I pray for all of them and I hope they find joy and peace within themselves.
It's about time that Loni and the girls finally said what happened.
Thank you for calling out the parents. I have always felt her mom is shady and knowing her daughter were molested and the fact that they never bothered to talk about it shows how irresponsible and the lack of love the parents have for their kids...