I been off Zoe Saldana. She used the black community to come up then quickly distanced herself from the community. It’s clear she don’t fool with us so we shouldn’t support her either
Thank you after getting her come up in the black main stream like you stated when Avatar & Guardians of the Galaxy hit big, she made damn sure i'm full latina even though she's darker than 90 percent of black women oh well no great lost at all. But she'll learn just like rest when her White Zaddy gets tired moves on & gets half that Marvel Money.
shes dominican, and its different than african american in the us, lets not force beliefs on others, each of these countries have their background. the dominican is not mostly african, the hatians are next door and they do cross over and have kids and mix, that however doesnt mean the island is mostly african..its also a hot tropical palce , you can get a tan by walking down the streets. people need to respect other cultrues and stop the toxic stuff.. also shes in 4 of the top 10 most grossed films of all time..
It is. I've been married to a native-raised (no USA) Dominican woman for 28 years. They subscribe so dearly to the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" we are all one syndrome that they can't understand the politics that keep the fairer-skinned ones in political office and on top.
I visited DR for 4 days and hated every minute of it. But I enjoyed Columbia. Colombians actually celebrate their African heritage complete with African garb, drums, and dance.
IMO a Black Afrocentric viewpoint is no different from a White Supremist viewpoint (same viewpoint, different "team"). God made all races & admixes. It's all good. ✝️😎👍
Preach brother! This has been true from the time Europeans decided that they would exploit us through nefarious means. If “Afrocentric” is what this viewpoint is called, then count me among the Afrocentric. I’m still reading your comment to find any mention of “god", “races", or “admixtures" as suggested by @michaeltaylor8501
@@iancaldeian If you will, then look again, because Black is a race, meaning it's one race among a group of races. God made all races - & I mentioned AdMix races as well for clarity (for those who might wonder about this) - because the origin of race comes from God & what God has made is all good (& God doesn't appreciate a racist attitude; for example, see what God did to Moses' older sister when she put her nose in the air over Moses getting remarried - to a Cushite: a Black lady). An Afrocentric viewpoint is one which places everything outside of what's African in origin as of less importance than anything African just as a Eurocentric viewpoint is one which places everything outside of European origin to be of less importance than what's European in origin (this latter viewpoint being the White Supremist's viewpoint): both viewpoints are racist viewpoints & are of Satan, not of YHWH our God.
@@infone779theres no obsession, dominicans keep flip flopping every other year on whether they blk or not. Ppl are tired of it. They can be latinos now
But when convenient,wanting roles she she played black women before the Marvel’s,Avatar’s.I am still upset they got her to do Nina Simone’s movie,went beyond ti make her into a black woman instead of hiring one.
Never happen. It's true what a foreigner once said; African Americans are some of the most capable people on the planet and everybody wants to emulate them, but they hate themselves and won't ever unite enough to exercise their power.
Let’s stop allowing these people who can clearly shapeshift into the black community to use us when it’s convenient for them or their careers! Those who actually accept their Afro side are supported!
Jamaican Black man here colonized by the english, my wife is a Haitian Black woman colonized by the french. Say It Loud We Are Black And We Are Proud !!! Mr. Oshay keep on keeping on God Bless You! #NoBoardersForBlack We Are 1❤
👊👊👊 Yeah brother. African here, till I die. Love how Jamaicans, Haitians and many other English, French, Dutch and Portuguese speaking Afro Caribbeans still claim their roots. I just don't know how the Spanish managed to brainwash some of them Afro Latinos on the Caribbeans. For some reason, Cubans r a little different.
@@abm5707 There has a saying I repeatedly keep using in regard to the m*lattoes amd the colourist cointried in Africa: "The peoples of North Africa, Egypt and Cape Verde are the Brazilians, Dominicans and Afro-Cubans of Africa. The people of Sudan, its Haiti. The Ocean Indian Creoles, its Louisanese Creoles. The Abyssinians and Somalians, its African Americans. Whom to the Malagasy and Arab-Swahilis [not to confuse with true Azanians/"Swahilis"] , its Melungeons."
Dominicans own many bodegas, supermarkets and restaurants in the east coast, especially in New York. And the Dominican Republic is the fastest growing economy in the Caribbean. Broke are those passport bros going to DR hoping to get a discount on cheap sex
Probably because she knew you were going to hate her for being mixed race for fuck sake black people grow up and show some concern for something worth fighting for this is weak!
You don't think it's disgraceful for over 400 years you, ve told the whole world your comfortable with slavery more than half of black Americans call them selves and fellow blacks slaves as in the N word and your complaing like idiots yes as a black man in London I am embaressed!
She's always denied her African heritage and she's ALWAYS dated whyte guys, she's even currently married to a whyte man, I bet she wishes she was a whyte woman
Yeah a lot of these comments are just a lot of people butt hurt cuz she's married to a white man. That's weird she still the race she is. Still black. You're just hurt. Stop it not like she was going to date you anyway. She's a celebrity. She never date you you're a nobody. Not being mean to you but you know this is just reality.
I'm Jamaican 🇯🇲 and I love being black! But yet other race want to dress like us and act like us and still our culture. Respect to all the blacks who identify yourself as black ⚫️
As a dominican, I have seen multiple times dominicans say they aren't black. I have argued this since I was little. Till this day arguing that our culture is of African roots. Our DNA scream African/European/Taino (native) because of dispora. but they like to say they aren't. Even the food, the music and culture is African roots. But I want to point out that the whole dividing race is an American thing. Some of us do acknowledge our races there but a bunch of us need to work on accepting it. I try my best to point this out to my part of the family that is black and educate those who are white. Zoe Saldana should have just said I'm dominican but I'm also black. She knows she's mostly dealing with Americans then say it correctly.
Dividing race IS NOT just an American thing. America has more immigrants than most countries. Particularly 3rd world countries. People didn't pack their bags from Europe and move to the DR for a better life. So of course America is going to be segmenting with Irish, Italian, Hispanic, Black and Asian. Y'all mainly have light-skinned Dominicans.. that shit on the darker skinned. But.. everything else you said I agree with. Zoe thinks white ice 🧊 is colder.
africa spain taino is what we say stop being a lambon when you have new movements talking about ppl was indigenous and never came from Africa etc , our identoty never wavered ten toes DOWN it remained the same, we dont flip flop from name to to name because we have a nationality that takes all in as Dominican the USA REFUSES to accept Black ppl as Americans that just happen to be another color here everything is color coded down to your food and choice in pets, in DR a white person will eat the same thing listen to the same music and it wont be a controversy or need a national conversation. We have out issues but it isnt as toxic and malignant and self destructive as America
That TikTok girl is on some B.S. In my 40+ years on this planet. I've heard countless Dominicans (in D.R, America, and elsewhere) state "I NO BLACK". And if you try to convince them otherwise, you get nowhere. I do get the fact that, with the exception of Americans, most identify with their nationality before race. But culturally, most Dominicans have denied their blackness.
All immigrants come to the US and are told by whites to stay away from African Americans, so Dominicans just stay on code. Nigerians are notorious for doing the same.
@@raheemjenkins6110it dont matter. Stop pretending the one or few of yall that identify with us is the same thought process for the majority. That shi way past late. Now that blk Americans starting to separate our identity , now everyone coming out the wood work. They werent blk before so they gonna stay as dark latinos and get mistreated by the colorist yt latinos. Yall only become blk when it suits you. And you kno that very well
Zoe identified as black up until the original Avatar’s success. She was on record saying to Dominican reporters that she is a black woman because they kept labeling her as anything other than that. When her L’Oréal commercial, which showcased her racial and ethnic makeup, dropped around 2012, everything but black/Afro Latina was listed. She stopped associating with her blackness at that point. When the Nina Simone biopic was announced and it was announced that she was playing Nina, black Americans didn’t forget her dissociation with her blackness and decided to let the film flop. She got upset. She then went on to reclaim her blackness, stating (paraphrasing here), “I am a black woman. You don’t get to decided that I’m not black. I’m raising two children as black men. I’m black the way I know how to be black.” She took no accountability and made it seem as if black America said she wasn’t black, when it was in fact she herself who renounced her blackness in the first place.
@@raebryan7475 The Na’vi (blue people) do. The Omatikaya, the clan that Zoe’s character, Neytiri, is in are based on African tribes and American Indian tribes which is why they’re all played by black people and American Indians in the movie. The Metkayina (the clan we meet in the second movie) are based on Polynesians. I don’t know how Zoe played that part then decided to separate herself, tho. 🥴
@@queldavis4898 This. That L’Oréal commercial is no longer on UA-cam. I checked today because I was gonna post it here. I guess L’Oréal didn’t want the heat in their comment section. 😅
Yep. Many Afro Brazilians, Afro Guatemalans, Afro Hondurans, Afro Costa Ricans as well. As a matter of fact, by census, the only country with more black people than Brazil is Nigeria.
Almost every Spanish person that I’ve talked to about this topic have all told me that their parents pushed for them to date lighter complexions because they don’t want their lineage to be dark skinned.
@@HoFMiddy Puerto Rican or Nuyorican? Two different things, east coast tends to make people go ghetto and act and think more like black city Americans.
@@timasuna1756 I’m not mad about anything. I’m just pointing out the fact that it’s not just 1 person that’s heard of this idea. I’ve dated Puerto Rican, Colombian, Ecuadorian, and Mexican. It’s not as blatant but it’s definitely a thing.
?? Lol I've never heard of that social norm buddy. What kind of Latinos you know. In the Dominican Republic there is no black and white. If anything I migrated to U.S. in 98. When I vacationed back in DR. My friends were confused when I used to talk about the history of U.S. history. Friends there like 🤔. News flash. Dominicans don't and will never identify as blacks or Caucasian or anything but being Dominican. The separation of colors is not in the Dominican culture. That's not within the Dominican culture or history. In DR there is no black and White. You are just the Dominican period. You are judged on who you are as a Dominican.
When you walk around the streets of Africa.. and look around.. and all you see is beautiful and lovely black people going about their daily business.. with nice smile on their faces... Then you will appreciate how beautiful it is to be black.. God bless Africa..🎉
I'm black woman born and grew up in England. I've been to the Dominican Republic. If you call them black they say, no, I'm Indian. Now that was over a decade ago but my experience is that not all but many Dominicans do not accept the label black. I also lived in Jamaica for a year also third world country also very colourist but they fully understand they are a black people.
That Tik Tok girl is talking pure cap- I live in the Bronx in Highbridge which Iis majority Dominican and it’s all about skin color when it comes to Dominicans- notice how she paused when she said “ we consider ourselves as ... pause... one-“ what she really didn’t wanna say is they consider themselves as SPANISH- that’s how they avoid claiming they are black which they certainly are- there are Africans living here that are lighter skinned than some of the Dominicans- and I have been told directly from a Dominican that EVERYTHING is skin color with Dominicans- and if it WASNT about skin color with that Zoe saldana actress then she wouldn’t have made a POINT to say that she is NOT black PERIOD
Those who come here eat the shit they’re fed. NYC IS AMERICA (which corrupts everyone) and America was built on hate and servitude. Denouncing ANY PART OF YOU comes from AMERICA, so the fact that you’re hearing all this about AMERICAN WOMEN (who wouldn’t be this way if their families never left PR or the DR) shouldn’t be surprising. H A T E came here on a boat from Europe and brought a whole Arc of bullshit with them. Many layers to that fruit. Jennifer is so HOLLYWOOD, she had her whole butt sucked out with that SELENA money💯
I'm from the Bronx too. Plus, I used to hang heavy in Harlem near 155th. So, I know all about Dominicans bruh. Many are whitewashed, even many cool acting ones, will eventually say some raccoon shyt. They pretend Dominican is a race. One told me I'm not Black, I'm Dominican at a clothing store on 145th, after we were joking with her. I responded "I'm not Black, I'm American" sarcastically. She just looked at me and the idiocy of what she said, just dawned on her, because she clearly saw me as a Black man.
@@ninocrown3247 Exactly💯Whitewashing wasn’t a thing until white people were. African genes are the elephant AMERICA tried to make people ignore. Shocked the hell outta me that Zoe & Jennifer would say that, though, but I get it (Funny how Jennifer played a maid. Had it not been for discovery/her ability to dance, who’s to say SHE couldn’t have been one❓⁉️)💯
“Dominicans know they’re black”. NO THEY DON’T! I knew a Dominican in high school who had an afro nappier than mine that SWORE UP AND DOWN that he wasn’t black! He’s broken more combs trying to pick his afro than I have! You could see CLEAR AS DAY that he has African genes. He was the ONLY ONE that couldn’t see it.
They kno they are blk but deny it to hell and back. But thats fine we are off them. They always try to claim blk again. Then jump back to "not blk" for other ppl. We taking that "Afro" card back, they jus latino now. Let them deal with the colorism in their own community. they want us to lift them up as blk while they yell at us that theyre "not blk" . its exhausting.
Am I African ?? Yes but Black american Will Say that I'm not enough Black anyway so a lot Dominican prefer to just identify as Dominican because the Color in our country is not a debate. Also African and Black American are still bleaching their skin those days and hating their own ethnycity, putting Black Women and Man down but not our bussines so.. Fix your own problems first!
Most of them say they not black, but when they have a wake up call they said they black because they want to get help from black people. They can't fool me
this life is waaaay to short and fickle for me to be worrying about what another person thinks of their skin color or mine. i cant see how their opinion gonna increase my life's value or happiness.
lmfaoooo ....yeah same. I'm Nigerian and light skinned. This Haitian guy I work with is always making fun of one of the dominican/puerto rican guys in our group saying , "yoo you're blacker than Caden, and he's actually FROM Africa. 🤣🤣
I'm Honduran, an Afro- Latina. It really depends on the country/region. We are very proud to be African and a lot of people embrace us. Black is beautiful is some Latin countries
The problem is people just generalize everyone. I have never been to the DR but I kow i saw many black people in Belize which is next to Honduras, Colombia , Jamaica, Panama who were excited to talk to me as an African from the continent and were clearly in touch with their Africaness much more than you see in the average African American in the US. Its like saying all black Americans are thugs. It is wrong. I am sure there are plenty people in DR who recognize their Africaness but what we get to see on social media is just the extremes. And to be honest so what if someone does not recognize their Africaness. There is over a billion of us, why would black people care about people from one or two islands saying they are not black if that is at all true
In Colombia everyone understands their mixed heritage no matter how light skinned they are. Thing is, it’s more the working people who understand this, I think, than the elites who would rather identify themselves as being of European origins.
My mother was Pureto Rican, and father was Jewish. I grew up in New Rochelle NY. My father was a big liberal, so we had a lot of black friends. But my mother, who white as snow, would not allow us to play, with our black friends. We use to sneak them in. Until we brought up at Sunday dinner, to my father, which he told my mother, that his children could play with anyone we wanted. When my cousin, on my mother’s side was married, her groom was a dark Puerto Rican man, with an Afro in 1974. My mother wouldn’t go to their wedding. My mother was born, in the Mountain town of Ponce, in Puerto Rico. Just the way she was, she had a lot of love in her heart. May God bless everyone ✝️🇺🇸!
I'm so sorry. My Nicaraguan grandmother was like this and was substantially african. Very colorist. She was from Nicaragua and her dad's family was from Jamaica. She was part Jewish too. She had a cousin who taught at Howard and somehow was still in denial. But you can immediately tell looking at her pictures even if she's light-skinned. God bless your dad, what a great man. Like your mother my grandmother had a lot of good in her, and helped a lot of people but I resented the fact she looked down on my mother for being darker. Colorism is really brutal in Latin communities and causes so much self-hatred. And plan out denial. I always make a point of letting people know my heritage because it is disrespectful for my ancestors to be ignored. It takes all of them to make us who were are. God bless you too.
Black Americans are confused when people of African descent in the diaspora say they aren't black! Black means you, your parents & grandparents were born in the USA! So, when a Honduran, a Jamaican, a Haitian, a Panamanian, a Brazilian, a Peruvian, a St Lucian, a Colombian, etc says I'm not black... they're saying that they aren't AA...they might say, I'm Afro-Colombian, Afro-Honduran, Afro-Brazilian, etc! They aren't denying their African heritage, but, are simply claiming citizenship status of the land of birth. They know that their ancestral land is Africa!
That's because she is black. Both of Zoe's bio parents are ADOS Black Americans. Her stepfather is Dominican. She's claiming her stepfather's heritage, because she's a wannabe.
That's what I mean. And that's why it's like okay so if it was really easy that. Then it is it wrong for people who are not dark. Who prefer other races tonight identify with you. Because you are rejecting her. She always identified as black. You guys kept rejecting her.
I'm dominican, grew up in Europe and experienced enough racism. Growing older and realizing how many dominicans think when it comes to race and skincolor is one of the most disappointing experiences of my life. One of the things that trigger me the most is how people ,not only dominicans but people in general think of dark skin black women. There are many very beautiful dark skin women in the dominican republic and people act like they don't exist.
I have been dark skinned beautiful all of my life My dark beautiful skin has affected me in life I just kept it pushing and called it Amerikkkka loss Not mine
No disrespect to Dominicans. But from what I’ve seen, they don’t want to claim black. I’m of Jamaican descent. We have a motto, out of many, one people. That doesn’t mean you don’t claim your race. That’s insanity. I’m black, point blank…and I love being black. Even better I’m dark skin. Despite the fools who want to practice colorism, I wouldn’t trade my color for anything.
Then why do Jamaicans be like, "Yo I'm half black half Jamaican" when they get pregnant by Afro Americans? That's saying I'm half Dog, half Rottweiler.
Bruh Dominicans have half and half white and black with native American genes. Theyre not the same as you famm!! You being Jamaican is like being 100% African whereas a Dominican is no where near that lol. So what do you want? You want Dominicans to ONLY think they're black and deny their European Spanish roots ?? I guess they should stop speaking Spanish too. I bet you'd like that. Maybe they should pick up some random African language and just completely wash out any europeanness which is part of their blood. I bet black people would LOVE that lol.
Honestly from the Latino perspective black people's fixation on Dominicans is dumb. Leave them be. Dominicans are like us Latinos more than they will ever be black. It's a different culture. It's a different vibe. Accept that and move the heck on.
I’m a black man born in Panama. I’ve been in many countries and racism is everywhere. I grew up in NY and many times I caught Dominicans and other Latin people saying racism shit not knowing I Spanish is my 1st language. I’m convinced that there is no white person I can truly trust and if you are Latin and mixed I might even trust you less, because in Latin America blacks are taught to hate their own blackness. In my country (Panama) Black mothers often tell their daughters to have babies with white Spanish men to better the race. Utter ignorance SMH . Please black people don’t hate, but dont trust cause they will speak about you in Spanish right in your face
After living in the South American Latin community for the last six years I can openly say there is biases in the Latin community more than in the black. Mexicans versus Puerto Ricans versus Dominicans versus Haitians versus Colombians versus Venezuelan versus Brazilians.
I'm Dominican, and as light skinned as i am and as much dark skin hate was tossed around in my community growing up, i know dang well at the end of the day my black heritage is undeniable. The sad part is that we're letting them divide us, because they know together we're strong. Remember that peeps.
Zoe also believes her Blackness is undeniable per the dozens of interviews she’s done from the 2000s to the 2010s in which she tells the press in DR to recognize her Blackness, in which she’s spoken abt her own Blackness, spoken abt her “Afro latinidad,” talked abt her sons’ Blackness, been quoted as saying that she’s “Black in the only way she knows how to be,” talked abt her blackness on sway in the morning and yet manipulative, vaguely anti Black and xenophobic UA-camrs like these who really just want to create a space for xenophobia regarding a Black Latina they know non-latinx Blk folks love to theorize about, invalidate and get on lies about Zoe “denying her Blackness” in the title. This deranged behavior is exactly why she said in sway in the morning that she “won’t explain or justify her Blackness to anyone….” Because she probably knows that Blk Americans have a hard time understanding and or accepting the nuanced lived experiences of Blk Latinos let alone that race and ethnicity are 2 different things. I also wanna note that dark skin hate aka colorism is also tossed around within the African American community which is why it’s constantly being discussed and think-pieced about on twitter in regards to the media, hip hop, cinema, bleaching and preferential treatment from adults growing up etc , the Jamaican community, across Latin America and just about everywhere else where colonialism was a thing. This is not a specific trait to DR the way certain Blk Americans like to position it while absolving their own communities from having the same remnants of slavery while they obsess over DR to half soothe themselves and half be apart of the bandwago. The video is defamatory in regards to their lying about Zoe’s Blackness and it’s weird how Blk folks like this cannot seem to separate their dislike and frustration for her doing the Nina film from how she’s self identified throughout the years but it’s like they need to pose the predictable narrative that she’s anti Blk and or hates her Blackness despite the proof in the interviews she’s done that disputes their BS in order to perpetuate the Dominican anti black narrative they enjoy so much. As a Caribbean American BW it’s especially disgusting bc they’re feeding directly into yt supremacist divide&conquer tactics by constantly perpetuating these lies in order to defame her under their guise of resentment and xenophobia. The diaspora wars continue! 🥴🤷🏾♀️
and my brother I appreciate the sentiment but on this issue it isn't the Black Folks doing the dividing ..unfortunately it's a majority of your Dominican Peep that's with this I'm not Black nonsense until the SH1T hit's the fan .
Yeah but the " We as one unit " can only happen when they love the Black which CLEARLY they don't Or we'll fall at the 1st hurdle. So it's not putting the ball in blacks side of the court it should on Latinos side of the court cos they are the ones that have shown over decades y'all don't love us which ultimately means you don't love yourself.... No attack that's actually truth and you should think about it. Peace. From a UK Black
Dominicans are notorious for their class system based on skin color. There’s a whole documentary on how lighter skin Dominicans are treated better than darker skin. Dominican women I knew never classified as black but Dominican only.
Just look at their government and the people running the country. The day they will elect a darker skin Dominican in power will be the day people will stop asking them about their blackness lol.
Did that documentary highlight majority of legends in DR are dark skinned. Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Fernandez Pena Gomez. Forget that Duarte, Sanchez y Meya the three that claimed the Dominican Republic independence were dark skinned. It appears your documentary was trying to put a social norm that doesn't exist in DR. Dique ppl of dark color in DR have it tougher.😂 Explain what racism is to a Dominican born and he would look at you like you are stupid. At most we would use color of the skin to pin a description when we don't know the person. "La morenita El morenita" "El blanquito la blanquita" no Dominican will ever link that to you being less because of your skin. Americans want everyone to relate to their social norm issue. I'm here to tell anyone racism is not an issue in DR. Now if you want to talk about why DR hate on Haiti. Now you have an argument. Not a race one but an immigrant one. Dominicans dislike Haiti not cuz of their skin tone, but because DR looks at Haiti in the same way Donald Trump looks at the Mexican wall. You know what your president thinks Mexicans come to America for 🤷🏾♂️. Same thing Dominicans think Haitians migrate DR for. Has nothing to do with the color of your skin. That is absolute garbage.
Oh please so because my mom is a Black woman and because of that I don’t consider myself black. My ancestors were black not me because I don’t look 👀 black.
I’m Afro-Rican and have never denied my Blackness. I have, in fact, dealt with people saying that I’m not Black because my ancestors were not enslaved in the United States. Being Black simply means you have African descent. It doesn’t matter what country your parents were born in. If you say you’re Black some people say you’re not and if you say that you’re not Black people say that you’re denying your African heritage. Folks need to make up their minds as to what they want to complain about. I’m Afro-Latino and proud of it. I’m 35% African, 17% Indigenous and rest European. In America, you’re Black. In the South, if you were 1/8 Black you had to go to a segregated school. I’m more than 1/3. Everyone who sees me thinks I’m African American because they see my Blackness. Africans were in Puerto Rico about 100 years before Africans stepped foot in the United States and were enslaved until 1873. I have been talking about African history in Latin America since the 80’s. Sometimes I feel we are too Black in Latin America and not Black enough in the USA.
@@alive2583 I don’t let anyone tell me how to identify myself. My nationality is American. My ethnicity is multiracial. And I identify as Afro-Latino or Black because of how I look and how I have been treated and perceived by people in this country and in the rest of the world.
@@REGGIE_BXNY Check the Black Law dictionary. Black means civiliter mortuus which means civilly dead in law. It don’t mean anything other than a traitor. I don’t get your frustration lol 😂
What’s crazy and if you knew, the indigenous taino’s were enslaved and the Africans sent to Puerto Rico. So you have two different types of slave blood in you. Black Americans don’t want anyone else to play there victim card though. I don’t identify with black American culture, I identify more with African culture down to my food, dance, the way I dress, dialect, music. Black Americans are full of themselves and feel the need to tell everyone they’re part of there culture and they aren’t. I identify with my African roots not American Black culture
I’m Boricua, and I’ve never denied my blood 🩸, but there are some of my people do! It’s a shame because growing up and some now still feel that way. I still continue to educate my people because it’s so important! I’m so proud to have African blood.
The worshipping of these things have gotten annoying, why can't you you just wake up and be human just like everyone. Why do you always have to bring your continent, country and skin color into everything, besides these things were created into your minds by the someone you probably don't like.
@@wkrphn2009 People are proud of their heritage and where they come from. You can find this in every ethnic group on every continent. Everyone knows their human.
She’s only the 2nd highest because of guardians of the galaxy and avatar. Those movies always make money not because of her acting skills. There blockbuster movies. Samuel L Jackson said that label is BS
And don't forget the 3 Star Trek films she was in,baby girl is in more films than any black actresses ( especially the big block-buster franchise films )
John leguizimo (so) whatever!! Comments were so disappointing and full of lies!! Couldn’t believe he said all of that! Wow! Thanks for posting that clip😀👍
The young Dominican woman who wanted to refute the mindset of her people is all CAP! The condition of ALL colonized people is the same. We all have those among us who work to whiten their families, who are ashamed of African ancestry, who uphold the African pride and culture, who either lie about it all or tell the truth. Period. I hate it when non American people of color try to claim a mindset that is just untrue of their people, who are also colonized and descendants of slaves. The Latino communities have been chasing white skin longer and more thoroughly than we have in America which is why the prevalence for light skin and straight hair is more dominant there than African features. You can't re-write history when it's written all over your face and all over your choices. smhsmhsmh
I completely agree. I think there's a large part of Dominican society that still has a chip on its shoulder about the Haitian conquest of their country where we abolished slavery. Zoe made a deliberate career move to seperate herself from the "Black" label so that she can succeed, similar to what the Rock is doing. Granted that terms like: "Black," "white," and other terms describing race are largely non existent outside the US, Zoe is American. She know damn well "Black" means having African ancestry.
oh pls, the Rock has never denied his father was an athletic man but you black pple hated on him when he wanted to play a role in tribute to a black wrestler he admired, this is why these pple shouldnt even bother to associate with you, cause you're damn ignorant, jealous and hateful
To quote an elder, "If a person of obvious African descent, wishes to be identified as anything but of African descent, then they should be treated as anything else but African." and WE HAVE NO FRIENDS.
Front, back and side effects of "European Colonization." Comedian/actress Aida Rodriguez spoke it the best in her interview on Comedy Hype. She boldly said much of her Puerto Rican/Dominican female relatives exclusively marry European/Caucasian males, just to have lighter skinned kids. I've personally heard confessions from Latina female associates, who all shared same stories about their relative's prejudices against having darker skin. I justifiably assume those who hate dark skin, also hate the most High "God" and his created sun too? Satan ain't joking in this last round.
this is why I love identifying as a Foundational Black American.. I’m done with two time, both sides of the fence Blackness When It Works For Me / My Nationality When It Don’t.
In a 2014 population survey of the Dominican Republic, 70.4% self-identified as mixed (mestizo/indio 58%, mulatto 12.4%), 15.8% as black, 13.5% as white, and 0.3% as "other". On the 2020 United States census, 20.3% of Hispanics selected "White" as their race.
This is coming from a Puerto Rican living in the East Coast. We do not deny being part African. Most of us are triracial, meaning we are a mix of Spaniard, Native American and African. We are not the ones who say "I'm Not Black, I'm Dominican" lol. Part of our musics origins come from Africa and in places like the Bronx and Philly, Blacks and Puerto Ricans are tight, just saying.
Now that I agree with my Latino Puerto Rican brother as an African-American my very best friends were like Puerto Ricans family members and they were proud of their African bloodline as well as the Island Latin and African culture mix of Puerto Rico even tho they are citizens of the United States.🎉🎉💃
Sadly this is taught. I'm in an interracial relationship and I've heard it too much in the DR. But it's up to us to correct it and set things straight.
My wife is Dominican and has 63% African DNA but people will say she is not Black because of where her parents were born. The Dominican Republic is the first country in the western hemisphere where Africans were first brought to.
Who defines what does it mean to be Black? For the most part, among Latin AMERICANS the phenotype and genotype determine your identity, in ANGLO United States the "One drop rule" determines whether you are "Black", but not among most Latin Americans. So, can and do thise of Anglo culture determine for everyone what they are? I always want to be logical and polite, but the answer is obvious.
I found the Afro Latin roots and community to be very strong in coastal Colombia. The places it seems to be the worse are places like Puerto Rico, DR, Argentina and a few others. I've never understood it. I mean we all get that it is culturally ingrained as there was a time where to get ahead you really had to assimilate into the European way of viewing the world. But that time is waning. If we all banded together, I have no doubt we could stop it in its tracks. Zoe Saldana is gorgeous, and I never knew this about her. Definitely lost her some cool points in my book, but again, the Latin community seems split with people adhering to older ways of thinking, but there is an emergence of those that are embracing and touting their black heritage. Slowly but surely I feel like the tides are turning on this topic. America is catching more heat than other from other countries on its own human rights track record. More countries than ever before are calling out Europe on its crimes and legacies in colonized countries. It isn't going to happen overnight, but for sure they are being challenged more than ever before. It's just sad to see however that ultimately when the tides really start to turn, the number of people coming out of the woodwork to claim their blackness will be thick. Yes race is a European construct. Even if Africa race was never how they identified historically. Unfortunately, race is too entrenched in our world psyche now to do away with. So, I rarely buy it when people use the race is a European construct argument, as a way to identify. I think if you do that today, you need to do it forever more. When blacks start to make moves, don't come running then to hop on the band wagon. And we ARE making moves. Shhh don't tell anyone. It's a secret.
Argentina mostly wiped out their blk population through making bm join the military (many died so bw married wm), lack of medical care for blk populations and immigration laws. It's basically in the single digits now. They're the most European country in Latin America
Afro Colombians celebrate it because we where the first free country of Afro-defendants alot the Caribbean countries went through racism and there own type of Jim Crow which makes them want to say they’re all 1 like some Dominicans, PR’s etc but not all MOST tho…. But they say they don’t see race but lol most the darker skinned folks are poor and they white 1s mostly live a better life… it is what it is
@Don’t Worry My experience has been, the more educated and cultured Latinos acknowledge African heritage. The poorer, lower class, less educated say they are white because skin color is ALL they have.
Caste system mmg? And the most famous artist have black skin and also many politicians. You are speaking shit. Concentrate in Guyana and leave us alone.
It’s interesting because Zoe Saldana has been in marvel as gamorra and the girl from Jane the virgin was saying that marvel needs Latino representation as if she didn’t exist. The very same grou that she’s trying to claim didn’t even see her as apart of the latin culture and/ or she didn’t have the right look to represent them.
Amen. It's not Black America's responsibility to uphold you if you identify as something other/more than black. If your nationality is your priority, then let others from your community/nation be your bull horn. Stop asking for support when you have no intention of giving back.
Man yall tripping this is a new thing at least for since the 1700s..peoples across the world always would say they were European..or from a certain tribe or Scottish etc ..saying I'm from this race is new..people always use to say where their lineage is ..like I said before other people will tell you exactly what they are versus what race they represent
My wife and I went to the Dominic for vacation and there was a lot of institutionalized colorism that many people either don't recognize or ignore. On TV and build board ads all featured very fair skinned Latinos, but the majority of the people we saw and were around were very dark skinned. Now I will say I didn't see any evidence of the people actually treating each other differently based off their shade differences.
@@lovecrossingborders oh heaven forbid the role went to someone moviegoers know and would be drawn to and who could physically handle the role, oh the horror.....lmao
Noooooo- That's not true. Both Dominicans and Puerto Ricans deny their blackness but Saldana have never ever denied her blackness. On the contrary she always says that she is black Dominican and that's why I like her. Dominicans can be dark dark still will deny their African heritage but this woman does not.
Being black is not for weak people 🇧🇿🙏🏾🤜🏾
Man say this ish a million and 1 times and I got your back 💯
LOVE YOUR STATEMENT----AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT🔥🔥🔥🔥
Facts
Amen
Ya being saying the dumbest things
I been off Zoe Saldana. She used the black community to come up then quickly distanced herself from the community. It’s clear she don’t fool with us so we shouldn’t support her either
PREACH
Very astute, I've been off her for quite a while now very sad really because her fan base isn't nearly as wide as it should be.
transformer, she is a he from Hollywood
Amen Marcus!
Thank you after getting her come up in the black main stream like you stated when Avatar & Guardians of the Galaxy hit big, she made damn sure i'm full latina even though she's darker than 90 percent of black women oh well no great lost at all. But she'll learn just like rest when her White Zaddy gets tired moves on & gets half that Marvel Money.
I agree. Only support those who support us and that goes for Blk people too.
To deny your colour, ethnicity or race is denying self and ultimately sacrificing your soul.
I am confused, did she claim to be white or Asian.
shes dominican, and its different than african american in the us, lets not force beliefs on others, each of these countries have their background.
the dominican is not mostly african, the hatians are next door and they do cross over and have kids and mix, that however doesnt mean the island is mostly african..its also a hot tropical palce , you can get a tan by walking down the streets.
people need to respect other cultrues and stop the toxic stuff..
also shes in 4 of the top 10 most grossed films of all time..
@@joellee6142 They can't understand (french caribbean here)
Your soul transcends your race-as GOD intended.
@@joellee6142who is talking about what other races they got over there?
I've dated a Dominican female for years, and she's has told me that the colorism and self hatred for dark skin is serious over there
It is. I've been married to a native-raised (no USA) Dominican woman for 28 years. They subscribe so dearly to the "Don't Worry, Be Happy" we are all one syndrome that they can't understand the politics that keep the fairer-skinned ones in political office and on top.
I visited DR for 4 days and hated every minute of it. But I enjoyed Columbia. Colombians actually celebrate their African heritage complete with African garb, drums, and dance.
Balanceamento!
So I'm guessing it's a lot better for black people to be here in the United States.
@@MrJohneblaze822 or Africa.
She lying they don’t like dark skin people that’s why Sammy Sosa hated his skin
Michael Jackson? 😅
Sammy sosa looks weird with that new skin
@Complex Ez You believed that?....😂😅🤣
@@PaulPaid Sammy Sosa has full blown vitiligo. He just won't admit. No skin bleaching of any kind will make your skin that light or white.
@@fhenlizhao5406😮😂😂😂😂😂
LMBAO! As a Black American Man I'm hated because Im BLACK! BEING BLACK: WE ARE HATED! BECAUSE WE ARE THE GREATEST! Viva Mother Africa! ASE!
IMO a Black Afrocentric viewpoint is no different from a White Supremist viewpoint (same viewpoint, different "team").
God made all races & admixes. It's all good.
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Preach brother! This has been true from the time Europeans decided that they would exploit us through nefarious means. If “Afrocentric” is what this viewpoint is called, then count me among the Afrocentric. I’m still reading your comment to find any mention of “god", “races", or “admixtures" as suggested by @michaeltaylor8501
I don't think you're hated because of the color of your skin but because of the crazy behavior of so many Black people.
If you're hated so much here in America, why don't you move to Mother Africa?
@@iancaldeian
If you will, then look again, because Black is a race, meaning it's one race among a group of races.
God made all races - & I mentioned AdMix races as well for clarity (for those who might wonder about this) - because the origin of race comes from God & what God has made is all good (& God doesn't appreciate a racist attitude; for example, see what God did to Moses' older sister when she put her nose in the air over Moses getting remarried - to a Cushite: a Black lady).
An Afrocentric viewpoint is one which places everything outside of what's African in origin as of less importance than anything African just as a Eurocentric viewpoint is one which places everything outside of European origin to be of less importance than what's European in origin (this latter viewpoint being the White Supremist's viewpoint): both viewpoints are racist viewpoints & are of Satan, not of YHWH our God.
Their ignorance is stunning. Thanks brother!
We have more Spanish dna than black ..why black cannot respect everybody decisions?? We are not black 🎉🎉🎉
She is not needed. She is not important.
I forgot she exists after the Drake Video 😂
you are right, the obsession with dominicans needs to stop
Lol.
Preach
@@infone779theres no obsession, dominicans keep flip flopping every other year on whether they blk or not. Ppl are tired of it. They can be latinos now
With her getting that Marvel and Avatar bags, she literally sees herself as being more green & blue than Black at this point 😂
I follow her on Instagram, this is true she'll say she green or blue before black
well i'm sure watching blacks steal fro stores makes her want to be associated with you
Facts!😂
But when convenient,wanting roles she she played black women before the Marvel’s,Avatar’s.I am still upset they got her to do Nina Simone’s movie,went beyond ti make her into a black woman instead of hiring one.
@pedward323 Damn, that's an actual factual I wanted to forget about
All the black man and woman from america has to do is focus on each other. Forget everyone else!
Absolutely
AMEN!!
Never happen.
It's true what a foreigner once said; African Americans are some of the most capable people on the planet and everybody wants to emulate them, but they hate themselves and won't ever unite enough to exercise their power.
Total ignorance, you black outside amerkkk too
In that case, those whose agender it is to divide and conquer us would win. We need to educate although it is exhausting.
She is clearly confused and we don't need her.
Boring huh, ignore
Exactly !! Bye Felicia!!!!! Don't let the door hit'cha!!!!
Is anyone NOT confused about so called "race"? It makes no logical sense and has no basis in science.
She doesn't need you. What exactly is she losing when it comes to you?
You presume to speak for all black people?
Let’s stop allowing these people who can clearly shapeshift into the black community to use us when it’s convenient for them or their careers! Those who actually accept their Afro side are supported!
Facts 💯
well you backed kamala, soooo
So true
Facts 💯
We are rare. And that is the most saddest part of this.
Jamaican Black man here colonized by the english, my wife is a Haitian Black woman colonized by the french. Say It Loud We Are Black And We Are Proud !!! Mr. Oshay keep on keeping on God Bless You! #NoBoardersForBlack We Are 1❤
The best duo ever🇭🇹😁✊🏽
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Yeah brother. African here, till I die.
Love how Jamaicans, Haitians and many other English, French, Dutch and Portuguese speaking Afro Caribbeans still claim their roots.
I just don't know how the Spanish managed to brainwash some of them Afro Latinos on the Caribbeans. For some reason, Cubans r a little different.
Lol, cool.
@@milesmorales1789 Boricuo-African American Spider Mutate represents!
@@abm5707 There has a saying I repeatedly keep using in regard to the m*lattoes amd the colourist cointried in Africa:
"The peoples of North Africa, Egypt and Cape Verde are the Brazilians, Dominicans and Afro-Cubans of Africa. The people of Sudan, its Haiti. The Ocean Indian Creoles, its Louisanese Creoles. The Abyssinians and Somalians, its African Americans. Whom to the Malagasy and Arab-Swahilis [not to confuse with true Azanians/"Swahilis"] , its Melungeons."
Colorism is keeping them broke.
Dominicans own many bodegas, supermarkets and restaurants in the east coast, especially in New York. And the Dominican Republic is the fastest growing economy in the Caribbean. Broke are those passport bros going to DR hoping to get a discount on cheap sex
Latino television needs to publicize her. Not our problem 🤷
She really needs to stop. She played all those black rolls in movies. I’m glad our magazine’s aren’t messing with her. Bye girl bye 👋🏾 ✊🏾🤦🏾♀️
I am so glad us as blacks are cowards that let every nationality on earth take liberties with us especially caucasians or am I?
Probably because she knew you were going to hate her for being mixed race for fuck sake black people grow up and show some concern for something worth fighting for this is weak!
You don't think it's disgraceful for over 400 years you, ve told the whole world your comfortable with slavery more than half of black Americans call them selves and fellow blacks slaves as in the N word and your complaing like idiots yes as a black man in London I am embaressed!
Our magazines? You don't own anything.
@@DfromBoston, stop being a butt!
You know full well what she meant by "our"! smh
She's always denied her African heritage and she's ALWAYS dated whyte guys, she's even currently married to a whyte man, I bet she wishes she was a whyte woman
If you tell her she isn’t white , she would fight you.
nobody wants to be a white woman both races want to be us alll that black fishing is mulattofishing to be HONEST and all men like mixed women PERIOD
Lol SMH
Yeah a lot of these comments are just a lot of people butt hurt cuz she's married to a white man. That's weird she still the race she is. Still black. You're just hurt. Stop it not like she was going to date you anyway. She's a celebrity. She never date you you're a nobody. Not being mean to you but you know this is just reality.
Why are AAs so obsessed with race and skin color??
She doesn't turn down that money to play black characters like in Drum Line and several other movies.
black characters?
Right??!@@martinalfaros
I'm Jamaican 🇯🇲 and I love being black! But yet other race want to dress like us and act like us and still our culture. Respect to all the blacks who identify yourself as black ⚫️
As a dominican, I have seen multiple times dominicans say they aren't black. I have argued this since I was little. Till this day arguing that our culture is of African roots. Our DNA scream African/European/Taino (native) because of dispora. but they like to say they aren't. Even the food, the music and culture is African roots. But I want to point out that the whole dividing race is an American thing. Some of us do acknowledge our races there but a bunch of us need to work on accepting it. I try my best to point this out to my part of the family that is black and educate those who are white. Zoe Saldana should have just said I'm dominican but I'm also black. She knows she's mostly dealing with Americans then say it correctly.
Dividing race IS NOT just an American thing. America has more immigrants than most countries. Particularly 3rd world countries. People didn't pack their bags from Europe and move to the DR for a better life. So of course America is going to be segmenting with Irish, Italian, Hispanic, Black and Asian. Y'all mainly have light-skinned Dominicans.. that shit on the darker skinned. But.. everything else you said I agree with. Zoe thinks white ice 🧊 is colder.
africa spain taino is what we say stop being a lambon when you have new movements talking about ppl was indigenous and never came from Africa etc , our identoty never wavered ten toes DOWN it remained the same, we dont flip flop from name to to name because we have a nationality that takes all in as Dominican the USA REFUSES to accept Black ppl as Americans that just happen to be another color here everything is color coded down to your food and choice in pets, in DR a white person will eat the same thing listen to the same music and it wont be a controversy or need a national conversation. We have out issues but it isnt as toxic and malignant and self destructive as America
dominicans divided by colorism which is the step child of race......
It's global. Look at South Africa etc.
Both of Zoe's bio parents are ADOS. Her stepfather is Dominican. She's claiming her stepfather's heritage, but she's technically black.
That TikTok girl is on some B.S. In my 40+ years on this planet. I've heard countless Dominicans (in D.R, America, and elsewhere) state "I NO BLACK". And if you try to convince them otherwise, you get nowhere. I do get the fact that, with the exception of Americans, most identify with their nationality before race. But culturally, most Dominicans have denied their blackness.
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They don’t represent the whole Latin community.
All immigrants come to the US and are told by whites to stay away from African Americans, so Dominicans just stay on code. Nigerians are notorious for doing the same.
@@raheemjenkins6110it dont matter. Stop pretending the one or few of yall that identify with us is the same thought process for the majority. That shi way past late. Now that blk Americans starting to separate our identity , now everyone coming out the wood work. They werent blk before so they gonna stay as dark latinos and get mistreated by the colorist yt latinos. Yall only become blk when it suits you. And you kno that very well
This is true
They can feel however they want to feel but yet,most of them lives in the black communities.
Because they are black.
Boycott these users
Zoe identified as black up until the original Avatar’s success. She was on record saying to Dominican reporters that she is a black woman because they kept labeling her as anything other than that. When her L’Oréal commercial, which showcased her racial and ethnic makeup, dropped around 2012, everything but black/Afro Latina was listed. She stopped associating with her blackness at that point. When the Nina Simone biopic was announced and it was announced that she was playing Nina, black Americans didn’t forget her dissociation with her blackness and decided to let the film flop.
She got upset. She then went on to reclaim her blackness, stating (paraphrasing here), “I am a black woman. You don’t get to decided that I’m not black. I’m raising two children as black men. I’m black the way I know how to be black.” She took no accountability and made it seem as if black America said she wasn’t black, when it was in fact she herself who renounced her blackness in the first place.
■ James Cameron did say that Avatar represents melaninated people.
@@raebryan7475 The Na’vi (blue people) do. The Omatikaya, the clan that Zoe’s character, Neytiri, is in are based on African tribes and American Indian tribes which is why they’re all played by black people and American Indians in the movie. The Metkayina (the clan we meet in the second movie) are based on Polynesians. I don’t know how Zoe played that part then decided to separate herself, tho. 🥴
She played herself
@@queldavis4898 This. That L’Oréal commercial is no longer on UA-cam. I checked today because I was gonna post it here. I guess L’Oréal didn’t want the heat in their comment section. 😅
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You'll never see Afro Colombians denying through Afro roots. They celebrate Blackness heavily.
Yep. Many Afro Brazilians, Afro Guatemalans, Afro Hondurans, Afro Costa Ricans as well. As a matter of fact, by census, the only country with more black people than Brazil is Nigeria.
Salud 😊 IKTR 🎉😂 🇨🇴 💛💙❤ 🇨🇴
Or Afro Brazilians 🇧🇷
@@ftdcp4459 maybe it's because I moved back to CR at a young age but I was shocked when I found out this about Dominicans
They may not do it in Columbia, but they certainly do it when they come here to America.
They should go to Spain, see how that works 😮
I'm OUT ! I don't support such people who use other people for their big name.
Her and Candice need to chat
Almost every Spanish person that I’ve talked to about this topic have all told me that their parents pushed for them to date lighter complexions because they don’t want their lineage to be dark skinned.
Funny, I've heard almost every New Yorker lie on Latinos saying this. 😂 Don't be mad a Dominican rejected you for her own.
@@timasuna1756nah it’s a real thing my ex was Puerto Rican and she told me her grandparents thought the same way
@@HoFMiddy Puerto Rican or Nuyorican? Two different things, east coast tends to make people go ghetto and act and think more like black city Americans.
@@timasuna1756 I’m not mad about anything. I’m just pointing out the fact that it’s not just 1 person that’s heard of this idea. I’ve dated Puerto Rican, Colombian, Ecuadorian, and Mexican. It’s not as blatant but it’s definitely a thing.
?? Lol I've never heard of that social norm buddy. What kind of Latinos you know. In the Dominican Republic there is no black and white. If anything I migrated to U.S. in 98. When I vacationed back in DR. My friends were confused when I used to talk about the history of U.S. history. Friends there like 🤔. News flash. Dominicans don't and will never identify as blacks or Caucasian or anything but being Dominican. The separation of colors is not in the Dominican culture. That's not within the Dominican culture or history. In DR there is no black and White. You are just the Dominican period. You are judged on who you are as a Dominican.
Afro Puerto Ricans and Afro Dominicans deny their blackness as well. It's sad that this is nothing new.
😂 yall need to step out. I know plenty of Afro Puerto Ricans that claim their black roots in Chicago.
nah it’s because of the news back in the 60 70s racism so Dominican try too deny it cuz of that… my theory…?
Doesn’t matter, their reality is concrete, and they are black regardless, so niggas are fighting a fight that’s only worth air in a ziplock bag.
¿De donde eres?
@@SCOOBYGD shiii
When you walk around the streets of Africa.. and look around.. and all you see is beautiful and lovely black people going about their daily business.. with nice smile on their faces...
Then you will appreciate how beautiful it is to be black.. God bless Africa..🎉
Well said 👏👏👏👏👏❤️
I'm black woman born and grew up in England. I've been to the Dominican Republic. If you call them black they say, no, I'm Indian. Now that was over a decade ago but my experience is that not all but many Dominicans do not accept the label black. I also lived in Jamaica for a year also third world country also very colourist but they fully understand they are a black people.
That Tik Tok girl is talking pure cap- I live in the Bronx in Highbridge which Iis majority Dominican and it’s all about skin color when it comes to Dominicans- notice how she paused when she said “ we consider ourselves as ... pause... one-“ what she really didn’t wanna say is they consider themselves as SPANISH- that’s how they avoid claiming they are black which they certainly are- there are Africans living here that are lighter skinned than some of the Dominicans- and I have been told directly from a Dominican that EVERYTHING is skin color with Dominicans- and if it WASNT about skin color with that Zoe saldana actress then she wouldn’t have made a POINT to say that she is NOT black PERIOD
common sense isnt common
Those who come here eat the shit they’re fed. NYC IS AMERICA (which corrupts everyone) and America was built on hate and servitude. Denouncing ANY PART OF YOU comes from AMERICA, so the fact that you’re hearing all this about AMERICAN WOMEN (who wouldn’t be this way if their families never left PR or the DR) shouldn’t be surprising. H A T E came here on a boat from Europe and brought a whole Arc of bullshit with them. Many layers to that fruit. Jennifer is so HOLLYWOOD, she had her whole butt sucked out with that SELENA money💯
Preach!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm from the Bronx too. Plus, I used to hang heavy in Harlem near 155th. So, I know all about Dominicans bruh. Many are whitewashed, even many cool acting ones, will eventually say some raccoon shyt. They pretend Dominican is a race. One told me I'm not Black, I'm Dominican at a clothing store on 145th, after we were joking with her. I responded "I'm not Black, I'm American" sarcastically. She just looked at me and the idiocy of what she said, just dawned on her, because she clearly saw me as a Black man.
@@ninocrown3247 Exactly💯Whitewashing wasn’t a thing until white people were. African genes are the elephant AMERICA tried to make people ignore. Shocked the hell outta me that Zoe & Jennifer would say that, though, but I get it (Funny how Jennifer played a maid. Had it not been for discovery/her ability to dance, who’s to say SHE couldn’t have been one❓⁉️)💯
“Dominicans know they’re black”. NO THEY DON’T! I knew a Dominican in high school who had an afro nappier than mine that SWORE UP AND DOWN that he wasn’t black! He’s broken more combs trying to pick his afro than I have! You could see CLEAR AS DAY that he has African genes. He was the ONLY ONE that couldn’t see it.
They kno they are blk but deny it to hell and back. But thats fine we are off them. They always try to claim blk again. Then jump back to "not blk" for other ppl. We taking that "Afro" card back, they jus latino now. Let them deal with the colorism in their own community. they want us to lift them up as blk while they yell at us that theyre "not blk" . its exhausting.
Facts
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Bro I’ve seen so much. I’m Dominican and Haitian will
Claim my routes!
Am I African ?? Yes but Black american Will Say that I'm not enough Black anyway so a lot Dominican prefer to just identify as Dominican because the Color in our country is not a debate. Also African and Black American are still bleaching their skin those days and hating their own ethnycity, putting Black Women and Man down but not our bussines so.. Fix your own problems first!
Most of them say they not black, but when they have a wake up call they said they black because they want to get help from black people. They can't fool me
this life is waaaay to short and fickle for me to be worrying about what another person thinks of their skin color or mine. i cant see how their opinion gonna increase my life's value or happiness.
Oshay got his foot on they neck!!! Salute!
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I don't mess with her. She really don't mess with black people.
Maybe it's the label black that the white man gave us how can you be mad at her? Are you brain washed
@@memphisgrizz the point is she don't mess with us.
@@memphisgrizz do you stand up for black girls?
🎯 THAT PART
@@xxxtentacionfanx3492 I stand farm for my aboriginal indigenous American indians which is the so called "blacks" in America🪶🏹
So true! Say it loud! I'm Black and I'm proud! Stand-up Black people...
Nobody has the power to deny her blackness. She is part black. She is black.
I'm from Senegal 🇸🇳. Light skinned, and my coworker is Dominican 🇩🇴 darker than me. He gets mad if I tell him he is black.😂😂😂
lmfaoooo ....yeah same. I'm Nigerian and light skinned. This Haitian guy I work with is always making fun of one of the dominican/puerto rican guys in our group saying , "yoo you're blacker than Caden, and he's actually FROM Africa. 🤣🤣
He's not black. He's a brown Dominican.
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@@tmat2024black is black Mr Colour blind
@@H99LN Another low level
I'm Honduran, an Afro- Latina. It really depends on the country/region. We are very proud to be African and a lot of people embrace us. Black is beautiful is some Latin countries
The problem is people just generalize everyone. I have never been to the DR but I kow i saw many black people in Belize which is next to Honduras, Colombia , Jamaica, Panama who were excited to talk to me as an African from the continent and were clearly in touch with their Africaness much more than you see in the average African American in the US.
Its like saying all black Americans are thugs. It is wrong. I am sure there are plenty people in DR who recognize their Africaness but what we get to see on social media is just the extremes. And to be honest so what if someone does not recognize their Africaness. There is over a billion of us, why would black people care about people from one or two islands saying they are not black if that is at all true
In Colombia everyone understands their mixed heritage no matter how light skinned they are. Thing is, it’s more the working people who understand this, I think, than the elites who would rather identify themselves as being of European origins.
My mother was Pureto Rican, and father was Jewish. I grew up in New Rochelle NY. My father was a big liberal, so we had a lot of black friends. But my mother, who white as snow, would not allow us to play, with our black friends. We use to sneak them in. Until we brought up at Sunday dinner, to my father, which he told my mother, that his children could play with anyone we wanted.
When my cousin, on my mother’s side was married, her groom was a dark Puerto Rican man, with an Afro in 1974. My mother wouldn’t go to their wedding. My mother was born, in the Mountain town of Ponce, in Puerto Rico. Just the way she was, she had a lot of love in her heart. May God bless everyone ✝️🇺🇸!
Sounds more like your mom had some hate while your dad had a lot of love in his heart.
I'm so sorry. My Nicaraguan grandmother was like this and was substantially african. Very colorist. She was from Nicaragua and her dad's family was from Jamaica. She was part Jewish too. She had a cousin who taught at Howard and somehow was still in denial. But you can immediately tell looking at her pictures even if she's light-skinned. God bless your dad, what a great man. Like your mother my grandmother had a lot of good in her, and helped a lot of people but I resented the fact she looked down on my mother for being darker. Colorism is really brutal in Latin communities and causes so much self-hatred. And plan out denial. I always make a point of letting people know my heritage because it is disrespectful for my ancestors to be ignored. It takes all of them to make us who were are. God bless you too.
How was your mothet a religion?
I am a PROUD AFRO LATINO!!!! I CELEBRATE BLACKNESS!!!!
Yes
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Black Americans are confused when people of African descent in the diaspora say they aren't black! Black means you, your parents & grandparents were born in the USA! So, when a Honduran, a Jamaican, a Haitian, a Panamanian, a Brazilian, a Peruvian, a St Lucian, a Colombian, etc says I'm not black... they're saying that they aren't AA...they might say, I'm Afro-Colombian, Afro-Honduran, Afro-Brazilian, etc! They aren't denying their African heritage, but, are simply claiming citizenship status of the land of birth. They know that their ancestral land is Africa!
She claimed her alliance long time ago. #neverforget
and she's filthy rich
Yep. When people tell you who that are, believe them.
My parents are both from the Republic of Panama 🇵🇦 . I am a first-generation Panamanian-American born in Brooklyn, New York. Flatbush all day.
Race is DEFINITELY NOT simply an AmeriKKKlan thing.
"The United States has become a place where entertainers and professional athletes are mistaken for people of importance."
-Robert Hienlien
Facts - Most are borderline illiterate anyway. Wake up America
Boom (Mic drop)!!!
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😂😂😂
Put this in a frame....
I remember when Zoe said I don’t do black. She said I am not black. She looks blacker than me.
I doubt it. Definitely not with a name like Chaniqua 😂😂😂🤡🤡
That's because she is black. Both of Zoe's bio parents are ADOS Black Americans. Her stepfather is Dominican. She's claiming her stepfather's heritage, because she's a wannabe.
@@tecumseh4095 😂😂😂
@@KtotheG ctfu well damn.
@@tecumseh4095ell I am half Native American so yes I am.
Wait, race is an American thing. But the Europeans have opposed them????
Eff her quite frankly. She's a Brad worshipping 🛌 🔧 and she knows it. We all know it. You made your choice Zoe, keep it pushing sweetheart.
Who she dates don't matter though 😂people are free to date whoever nobody should be the racial dating police.
That's what I mean. And that's why it's like okay so if it was really easy that. Then it is it wrong for people who are not dark. Who prefer other races tonight identify with you. Because you are rejecting her. She always identified as black. You guys kept rejecting her.
I LOVE THOSE SYMBOLS ! B E D W****H
I PRINT OUT THE WORDS & YOU TUBE CENSORS & DELETES MY COMMENTS ALL THE TIME !
@@sikwitit773 I said that because she does not identify as black but is happy to benefit off of pretending to be Black when it suits her.
FACTS
I'm dominican, grew up in Europe and experienced enough racism. Growing older and realizing how many dominicans think when it comes to race and skincolor is one of the most disappointing experiences of my life. One of the things that trigger me the most is how people ,not only dominicans but people in general think of dark skin black women. There are many very beautiful dark skin women in the dominican republic and people act like they don't exist.
Hate to say it ,but all darkskin black women has been forced to think of themselves being the last option for all race
Youre not dominican
@@Maria-oh1nq what am i?
@@hmmmm8873 a gringo
@@Maria-oh1nq is there something u wanna tell me?
Agreed. Only rock with who's rocking with you.
I have been dark skinned beautiful all of my life
My dark beautiful skin has affected me in life
I just kept it pushing and called it Amerikkkka loss
Not mine
No disrespect to Dominicans. But from what I’ve seen, they don’t want to claim black. I’m of Jamaican descent. We have a motto, out of many, one people. That doesn’t mean you don’t claim your race. That’s insanity. I’m black, point blank…and I love being black. Even better I’m dark skin. Despite the fools who want to practice colorism, I wouldn’t trade my color for anything.
Preach bro
Then why do Jamaicans be like, "Yo I'm half black half Jamaican" when they get pregnant by Afro Americans?
That's saying I'm half Dog, half Rottweiler.
Nobody can trade the colour of his skin.
Bruh Dominicans have half and half white and black with native American genes. Theyre not the same as you famm!! You being Jamaican is like being 100% African whereas a Dominican is no where near that lol. So what do you want? You want Dominicans to ONLY think they're black and deny their European Spanish roots ?? I guess they should stop speaking Spanish too. I bet you'd like that. Maybe they should pick up some random African language and just completely wash out any europeanness which is part of their blood. I bet black people would LOVE that lol.
Honestly from the Latino perspective black people's fixation on Dominicans is dumb. Leave them be. Dominicans are like us Latinos more than they will ever be black. It's a different culture. It's a different vibe. Accept that and move the heck on.
I’m a black man born in Panama. I’ve been in many countries and racism is everywhere. I grew up in NY and many times I caught Dominicans and other Latin people saying racism shit not knowing I Spanish is my 1st language. I’m convinced that there is no white person I can truly trust and if you are Latin and mixed I might even trust you less, because in Latin America blacks are taught to hate their own blackness. In my country (Panama) Black mothers often tell their daughters to have babies with white Spanish men to better the race. Utter ignorance SMH . Please black people don’t hate, but dont trust cause they will speak about you in Spanish right in your face
We don’t claim her. She’s not like us. B1, FBA ✊🏾💯🔥🔥🔥
Thank God for that. Overly emotional, often not making any sense, yeah she definitely doesn't need to be a part of that hostile stupidity.
And don't forget about the divide and conquer tactics, every name we go by we never called ourselves.
After living in the South American Latin community for the last six years I can openly say there is biases in the Latin community more than in the black. Mexicans versus Puerto Ricans versus Dominicans versus Haitians versus Colombians versus Venezuelan versus Brazilians.
Bro the Dominicans hates us Haitians so much bro that it's exhausting🤦🏽♂️
@@milesmorales1789 Faaaaaaaaaacts
Right?! And I got two Brazilian friends that made it very clear slin color matters to them
@Miles Morales
Yall killed the Dominicans yall invaded their country lol yall not angels
Then why are so many haitians in Dr may I ask? also I've taken notice of some Haitian men dating Dominican women in the passport bro movement.
I'm Dominican, and as light skinned as i am and as much dark skin hate was tossed around in my community growing up, i know dang well at the end of the day my black heritage is undeniable. The sad part is that we're letting them divide us, because they know together we're strong. Remember that peeps.
Zoe also believes her Blackness is undeniable per the dozens of interviews she’s done from the 2000s to the 2010s in which she tells the press in DR to recognize her Blackness, in which she’s spoken abt her own Blackness, spoken abt her “Afro latinidad,” talked abt her sons’ Blackness, been quoted as saying that she’s “Black in the only way she knows how to be,” talked abt her blackness on sway in the morning and yet manipulative, vaguely anti Black and xenophobic UA-camrs like these who really just want to create a space for xenophobia regarding a Black Latina they know non-latinx Blk folks love to theorize about, invalidate and get on lies about Zoe “denying her Blackness” in the title.
This deranged behavior is exactly why she said in sway in the morning that she “won’t explain or justify her Blackness to anyone….” Because she probably knows that Blk Americans have a hard time understanding and or accepting the nuanced lived experiences of Blk Latinos let alone that race and ethnicity are 2 different things. I also wanna note that dark skin hate aka colorism is also tossed around within the African American community which is why it’s constantly being discussed and think-pieced about on twitter in regards to the media, hip hop, cinema, bleaching and preferential treatment from adults growing up etc , the Jamaican community, across Latin America and just about everywhere else where colonialism was a thing.
This is not a specific trait to DR the way certain Blk Americans like to position it while absolving their own communities from having the same remnants of slavery while they obsess over DR to half soothe themselves and half be apart of the bandwago. The video is defamatory in regards to their lying about Zoe’s Blackness and it’s weird how Blk folks like this cannot seem to separate their dislike and frustration for her doing the Nina film from how she’s self identified throughout the years but it’s like they need to pose the predictable narrative that she’s anti Blk and or hates her Blackness despite the proof in the interviews she’s done that disputes their BS in order to perpetuate the Dominican anti black narrative they enjoy so much. As a Caribbean American BW it’s especially disgusting bc they’re feeding directly into yt supremacist divide&conquer tactics by constantly perpetuating these lies in order to defame her under their guise of resentment and xenophobia. The diaspora wars continue! 🥴🤷🏾♀️
@@SupernaturalLove100 Lawd! LMAO!!
Preach
and my brother I appreciate the sentiment but on this issue it isn't the Black Folks doing the dividing ..unfortunately it's a majority of your Dominican Peep that's with this I'm not Black nonsense until the SH1T hit's the fan .
Yeah but the " We as one unit " can only happen when they love the Black which CLEARLY they don't Or we'll fall at the 1st hurdle. So it's not putting the ball in blacks side of the court it should on Latinos side of the court cos they are the ones that have shown over decades y'all don't love us which ultimately means you don't love yourself.... No attack that's actually truth and you should think about it. Peace. From a UK Black
As a Latino, I’ll tell you colorism is big in Latin America. Not just against blacks, but also the indigenous.
Outstanding ( Mr. Oshay).
Dominicans are notorious for their class system based on skin color. There’s a whole documentary on how lighter skin Dominicans are treated better than darker skin. Dominican women I knew never classified as black but Dominican only.
Just look at their government and the people running the country. The day they will elect a darker skin Dominican in power will be the day people will stop asking them about their blackness lol.
Caste system.
I seen that documentary. I think it was called" black in Latin America" or something. They went to several latin countries
@@marvin469 By Henry Louis Gates, Jr
“Black in Latin America”.
Did that documentary highlight majority of legends in DR are dark skinned. Vladimir Guerrero, Jose Fernandez Pena Gomez. Forget that Duarte, Sanchez y Meya the three that claimed the Dominican Republic independence were dark skinned. It appears your documentary was trying to put a social norm that doesn't exist in DR. Dique ppl of dark color in DR have it tougher.😂 Explain what racism is to a Dominican born and he would look at you like you are stupid. At most we would use color of the skin to pin a description when we don't know the person. "La morenita El morenita" "El blanquito la blanquita" no Dominican will ever link that to you being less because of your skin. Americans want everyone to relate to their social norm issue. I'm here to tell anyone racism is not an issue in DR. Now if you want to talk about why DR hate on Haiti. Now you have an argument. Not a race one but an immigrant one. Dominicans dislike Haiti not cuz of their skin tone, but because DR looks at Haiti in the same way Donald Trump looks at the Mexican wall. You know what your president thinks Mexicans come to America for 🤷🏾♂️. Same thing Dominicans think Haitians migrate DR for. Has nothing to do with the color of your skin. That is absolute garbage.
I am so glad she’s denying her blackness, because only the strong are able to carry it.
Oh please so because my mom is a Black woman and because of that I don’t consider myself black. My ancestors were black not me because I don’t look 👀 black.
I’m Afro-Rican and have never denied my Blackness. I have, in fact, dealt with people saying that I’m not Black because my ancestors were not enslaved in the United States. Being Black simply means you have African descent. It doesn’t matter what country your parents were born in. If you say you’re Black some people say you’re not and if you say that you’re not Black people say that you’re denying your African heritage. Folks need to make up their minds as to what they want to complain about. I’m Afro-Latino and proud of it. I’m 35% African, 17% Indigenous and rest European. In America, you’re Black. In the South, if you were 1/8 Black you had to go to a segregated school. I’m more than 1/3. Everyone who sees me thinks I’m African American because they see my Blackness. Africans were in Puerto Rico about 100 years before Africans stepped foot in the United States and were enslaved until 1873. I have been talking about African history in Latin America since the 80’s. Sometimes I feel we are too Black in Latin America and not Black enough in the USA.
So basically you’re Taino? Which to me is just a Afro Latino
@@alive2583 I don’t let anyone tell me how to identify myself. My nationality is American. My ethnicity is multiracial. And I identify as Afro-Latino or Black because of how I look and how I have been treated and perceived by people in this country and in the rest of the world.
You're black, my dude... it's just that ADOS are real paranoid and insecure right now... it's a Millennial thing. I don't know what's wrong with them.
@@REGGIE_BXNY Check the Black Law dictionary. Black means civiliter mortuus which means civilly dead in law. It don’t mean anything other than a traitor. I don’t get your frustration lol 😂
What’s crazy and if you knew, the indigenous taino’s were enslaved and the Africans sent to Puerto Rico. So you have two different types of slave blood in you.
Black Americans don’t want anyone else to play there victim card though.
I don’t identify with black American culture, I identify more with African culture down to my food, dance, the way I dress, dialect, music.
Black Americans are full of themselves and feel the need to tell everyone they’re part of there culture and they aren’t.
I identify with my African roots not American Black culture
The Days of hiding behind blackness is Over 💯 WHERE ARE YOUR PARENTS FROM 🤔
And yet she took the Lt. Uhura role in Star Trek, SMH
Thanx for the explanation, it was needed.
I’m Boricua, and I’ve never denied my blood 🩸, but there are some of my people do! It’s a shame because growing up and some now still feel that way. I still continue to educate my people because it’s so important! I’m so proud to have African blood.
We love you sister!
The worshipping of these things have gotten annoying, why can't you you just wake up and be human just like everyone. Why do you always have to bring your continent, country and skin color into everything, besides these things were created into your minds by the someone you probably don't like.
@@wkrphn2009 People are proud of their heritage and where they come from. You can find this in every ethnic group on every continent. Everyone knows their human.
@Chen Yung The Truth shall set you free, but most are too immature to handle it
@@wkrphn2009 worshiping who and what?
She’s only the 2nd highest because of guardians of the galaxy and avatar. Those movies always make money not because of her acting skills.
There blockbuster movies.
Samuel L Jackson said that label is BS
And don't forget the 3 Star Trek films she was in,baby girl is in more films than any black actresses ( especially the big block-buster franchise films )
Avengers Movies Infinity War and Endgame.
@Chris King most actresses suck they just look good
@Chris King No she ain't. She ain't ever been nominated for anything....
Never seen her in anything that shows her range.
@Chris King She got roles cause look good and can pass for a black woman when they need one...
Probably pay her less.
WHEN ONE HAS UNCONDITIONAL SELF LOVE, NONE OF THIS WILL EVEN BE AN ISSUE.
John leguizimo (so) whatever!! Comments were so disappointing and full of lies!! Couldn’t believe he said all of that! Wow! Thanks for posting that clip😀👍
The young Dominican woman who wanted to refute the mindset of her people is all CAP! The condition of ALL colonized people is the same. We all have those among us who work to whiten their families, who are ashamed of African ancestry, who uphold the African pride and culture, who either lie about it all or tell the truth. Period. I hate it when non American people of color try to claim a mindset that is just untrue of their people, who are also colonized and descendants of slaves. The Latino communities have been chasing white skin longer and more thoroughly than we have in America which is why the prevalence for light skin and straight hair is more dominant there than African features. You can't re-write history when it's written all over your face and all over your choices. smhsmhsmh
hahaha i laught, u know ur people still live in 1600 all country in latin america dont care too much about the race only in USA
I completely agree. I think there's a large part of Dominican society that still has a chip on its shoulder about the Haitian conquest of their country where we abolished slavery. Zoe made a deliberate career move to seperate herself from the "Black" label so that she can succeed, similar to what the Rock is doing. Granted that terms like: "Black," "white," and other terms describing race are largely non existent outside the US, Zoe is American. She know damn well "Black" means having African ancestry.
oh pls, the Rock has never denied his father was an athletic man but you black pple hated on him when he wanted to play a role in tribute to a black wrestler he admired, this is why these pple shouldnt even bother to associate with you, cause you're damn ignorant, jealous and hateful
Abolished slavery? Lmao chill y’all still have slaves in Haiti.
@@Jimmy_none He's obviously talking about slavery by Europeans
@Marek Cracovia story of the world
Lol ummmm Haitians freed y’all literally according to South American History
To quote an elder, "If a person of obvious African descent, wishes to be identified as anything but of African descent, then they should be treated as anything else but African." and WE HAVE NO FRIENDS.
Zoe wants to be white, not just Latina and marry white.
That's why she married White ! She married a loser. But because he's White he's God to her 😐
So what
@@jeremylesso857 Shes not!
@@grownman5997 not what?
@@jeremylesso857 Not white, He said she wanna be white and she not!
Front, back and side effects of "European Colonization." Comedian/actress Aida Rodriguez spoke it the best in her interview on Comedy Hype. She boldly said much of her Puerto Rican/Dominican female relatives exclusively marry European/Caucasian males, just to have lighter skinned kids. I've personally heard confessions from Latina female associates, who all shared same stories about their relative's prejudices against having darker skin. I justifiably assume those who hate dark skin, also hate the most High "God" and his created sun too? Satan ain't joking in this last round.
Facts Just Rules!! I just recently watched that interview Aida Rodriguez gave on Latinos don't want to acknowledge there black lineage.
Satan and god? Lol 🤦🏽♂️
She loves pandering to weak-minded people
The obsession on Dominicans is crazy
Agree and I’m Haitian 😆😆😆😆
if these people lz so proud of where they come from why dont they stay there
this is why I love identifying as a Foundational Black American.. I’m done with two time, both sides of the fence Blackness When It Works For Me / My Nationality When It Don’t.
Exactly! Phukk these muthaphukkas!
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6:38 more and more division, get out of your ego
@@kdsnljdsnd more and more facts…what are YOU worried about ?
In a 2014 population survey of the Dominican Republic, 70.4% self-identified as mixed (mestizo/indio 58%, mulatto 12.4%), 15.8% as black, 13.5% as white, and 0.3% as "other". On the 2020 United States census, 20.3% of Hispanics selected "White" as their race.
This is coming from a Puerto Rican living in the East Coast. We do not deny being part African. Most of us are triracial, meaning we are a mix of Spaniard, Native American and African. We are not the ones who say "I'm Not Black, I'm Dominican" lol. Part of our musics origins come from Africa and in places like the Bronx and Philly, Blacks and Puerto Ricans are tight, just saying.
Now that I agree with my Latino Puerto Rican brother as an African-American my very best friends were like Puerto Ricans family members and they were proud of their African bloodline as well as the Island Latin and African culture mix of Puerto Rico even tho they are citizens of the United States.🎉🎉💃
Please! I met a Dominican bro that said he wanted a white woman to “purify the race”.
I don’t believe she said that ish
She’s just acting on it.
That's how there taught
I've heard that too when I was in DR
Sadly this is taught. I'm in an interracial relationship and I've heard it too much in the DR. But it's up to us to correct it and set things straight.
@@steffo9772 what works for one person might not work for the other!!!
My wife is Dominican and has 63% African DNA but people will say she is not Black because of where her parents were born. The Dominican Republic is the first country in the western hemisphere where Africans were first brought to.
Psychologically they in The DR are missed up thanks to President Trujillo
Who defines what does it mean to be Black? For the most part, among Latin AMERICANS the phenotype and genotype determine your identity, in ANGLO United States the "One drop rule" determines whether you are "Black", but not among most Latin Americans. So, can and do thise of Anglo culture determine for everyone what they are? I always want to be logical and polite, but the answer is obvious.
I found the Afro Latin roots and community to be very strong in coastal Colombia. The places it seems to be the worse are places like Puerto Rico, DR, Argentina and a few others. I've never understood it. I mean we all get that it is culturally ingrained as there was a time where to get ahead you really had to assimilate into the European way of viewing the world. But that time is waning. If we all banded together, I have no doubt we could stop it in its tracks. Zoe Saldana is gorgeous, and I never knew this about her. Definitely lost her some cool points in my book, but again, the Latin community seems split with people adhering to older ways of thinking, but there is an emergence of those that are embracing and touting their black heritage. Slowly but surely I feel like the tides are turning on this topic. America is catching more heat than other from other countries on its own human rights track record. More countries than ever before are calling out Europe on its crimes and legacies in colonized countries. It isn't going to happen overnight, but for sure they are being challenged more than ever before. It's just sad to see however that ultimately when the tides really start to turn, the number of people coming out of the woodwork to claim their blackness will be thick. Yes race is a European construct. Even if Africa race was never how they identified historically. Unfortunately, race is too entrenched in our world psyche now to do away with. So, I rarely buy it when people use the race is a European construct argument, as a way to identify. I think if you do that today, you need to do it forever more. When blacks start to make moves, don't come running then to hop on the band wagon. And we ARE making moves. Shhh don't tell anyone. It's a secret.
So tu as visitado esos sitios..que mencionas..?esos paises
Argentina mostly wiped out their blk population through making bm join the military (many died so bw married wm), lack of medical care for blk populations and immigration laws. It's basically in the single digits now. They're the most European country in Latin America
Youre not hispanic
Afro Colombians celebrate it because we where the first free country of Afro-defendants alot the Caribbean countries went through racism and there own type of Jim Crow which makes them want to say they’re all 1 like some Dominicans, PR’s etc but not all MOST tho…. But they say they don’t see race but lol most the darker skinned folks are poor and they white 1s mostly live a better life… it is what it is
@Don’t Worry My experience has been, the more educated and cultured Latinos acknowledge African heritage. The poorer, lower class, less educated say they are white because skin color is ALL they have.
That girl is a damn lie the Dominicans have a caste system
absolutely correct
@@lovecrossingborders I see you did a video on my country I’m going to watch ☺️😏
@@aleshasinclair8529 Where is your country?
@@lovecrossingborders GUYANA 🇬🇾
Caste system mmg? And the most famous artist have black skin and also many politicians. You are speaking shit. Concentrate in Guyana and leave us alone.
Amen! I believe the we as a Black community have came a long way in a year. Some are finally seeing the light.
It’s interesting because Zoe Saldana has been in marvel as gamorra and the girl from Jane the virgin was saying that marvel needs Latino representation as if she didn’t exist. The very same grou that she’s trying to claim didn’t even see her as apart of the latin culture and/ or she didn’t have the right look to represent them.
Amen. It's not Black America's responsibility to uphold you if you identify as something other/more than black. If your nationality is your priority, then let others from your community/nation be your bull horn. Stop asking for support when you have no intention of giving back.
Right on!!!
Old mama stop worrying about colorism which is worst in USA than anywhere else. Worry about the Black on Black crime. Smh
THANK YOU!!! 👏🏽 👏🏽 👏🏽
Amen, old mama. People want to use us when they need us. Then hate us and throw us away when they don't.
It's okay there are more Latinos than black Americans anyway.
Race is a American thing??!!Really?? Is that's why Zoe Saldana and her four Sisters are all married to White Dominican Men???
Her people should help her then
Exactly I was just about to type this shit
What’s the problem? At least they are married to Dominican.
Man yall tripping this is a new thing at least for since the 1700s..peoples across the world always would say they were European..or from a certain tribe or Scottish etc ..saying I'm from this race is new..people always use to say where their lineage is ..like I said before other people will tell you exactly what they are versus what race they represent
Are you sure they're Dominican? They look straight white.
My wife and I went to the Dominic for vacation and there was a lot of institutionalized colorism that many people either don't recognize or ignore. On TV and build board ads all featured very fair skinned Latinos, but the majority of the people we saw and were around were very dark skinned. Now I will say I didn't see any evidence of the people actually treating each other differently based off their shade differences.
Let's make Zoe Saldana infamous! Bye ZS!
Whenever I'm filling out a form I always select Black and Latino on the race questions
I use to love her especially in COLOMBIANA...wow it never ceases to amaze me!!
Colombians her we're pissed they choose her for that movie over real Afro Colombianas
Sameeeee!
The name of the movie says it all. It wasn't believable that as small as she was could stand toe to toe with those guys.
Just a movie
@@lovecrossingborders oh heaven forbid the role went to someone moviegoers know and would be drawn to and who could physically handle the role, oh the horror.....lmao
The average Black American really don't give a sh&$ about this, at least this one don't😂😂😂
Noooooo- That's not true. Both Dominicans and Puerto Ricans deny their blackness but Saldana have never ever denied her blackness. On the contrary she always says that she is black Dominican and that's why I like her. Dominicans can be dark dark still will deny their African heritage but this woman does not.