I have that same gun in the same caliber left hand and just purchased that scope 1 week before deer season. Did not install it due to that but am working on it now. It is a great system and will print my drop tables out to make it work until I decide on the best load before I get my custom dial. I did install a new trigger which reduced it to 3 lbs, which was 3 lbs less than it came from the factory. Big difference right there. I watched this video before I purchased my scope along with information about the scope. Thanks for your video.
I am a lefty and also went with the Ruger m77 series. I had to float my barrel but otherwise it is a tack driver for the price and ruggedness. I have the same rifle (except hawkeye, not Mk2) with the same stock and same scope! Just ordered my CDS
You might consider a M Carbo replacement trigger spring. A simple install for $13.00 . My trigger pull is 2 pounds with a very clean break. Makes a lot of difference at shooting to sight in. I think it works well and is much better than replacing trigger.
Some boxes of ammo have the ballistics for the load. You may get drop from the ammo manufacture's web site or a reloading manual. What you need is the drop at various yardage. Convert the drop to minutes of angle (MOA) or clicks. The CDS dial uses MOA, so I use MOA. With the purchase of the scope you will also get one custom dial, which give you yardage (no minutes or clicks needed). For drop to minutes calculation, check out my video "Calc Bullet Drop in MOA or Clicks come up ballistics"
I just mounted a leupold 3x9 on a left handed ruger m77 scout ... and i just think its interesting that i watched this vid first and you have almost the same setup and watching this looked almost like you were holding my rifle
Can you buy just a moa knob like you got?? Is that considered a CDS? I’d kinda like to have a moa dial with data cards over a CDS for one load. My vx6 has capped turrets
Unfortunately, the CDS knobs are factory installed. I don't know if or how much it would be in to install them. Does your VX 1 have click adjustable factory knobs? Some of those scopes have friction knobs so target adjustable knobs will not work. You might consider setting up the scope for point blank range. Eg, approximately and caliber specific, 2 inches high at 100 yards, so you will be on target at 250 yards, and 2 inches low at 300 yards. Use ballistic tables to get specifics.
There is no stop. Once the rifle is zeroed, then the dial is made to be loosened and spun, without change the scope settings, so that the zero on the dial lines up the with indicator line. The dial is then tightened. Typically I look at the dial when I adjust up and down. It would be possible to feel the clicks to keep track. It takes a look at the dial to confirm the setting. If you go past zero, then a quick look will show that the dial was overturned.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself for that 100 yard group. It is a Ruger after all lol! I'm looking to upgrade to the cds system on two rifles and this vid helped. Thanks!
I wrap the CDS turret with white glow tape and mark the ranges with a black sharpie based on holes in the targets at long range. My 10 year relationship with ballistic tables and chronographs is over.
So is this like first focal plane. Like if you were to zoom all way in to your highest power, could you still shoot like you regularly would with having to adjust elevation
Let’s say that it took 6 clicks of elevation to get your zero. Then you move the turret by taking it off and putting it back on the zero. Does this mean you have 6 clicks less of elevation adjustment? Do you need to keep up with this in the case you take off your scope to sell or move to another rifle?
UH...AT 100 YARDS, ALL MY ROUNDS ARE TOUCHING IN THE CENTER. THE AMMO I'M USING IS REMINGTON 130gr. NOTHING SPECIAL, BUT I DO HAVE MICROMETER ADJUSTMENTS ON BOTH ELEVATION AND WINDAGE ON MY LEUPOLD 3.5-10X50, NOT THE TALL TACTICAL ADJUSTMENTS. i DO HAVE HOWEVER A SLIGHTLY HEAVER BARREL THEN THE SPORTER BARREL WITH A 26.5" BARREL AND AS i REMEMBER, IT'S A 1 IN 9 TWIST.RATE USING ONLY 3 GROVES TO STABILIZE THE BULLET AND 3 THOUSANDS CLEARANCE...CUSTOM BARREL. IN A MAUSER FN SHORT ACTION ACTION. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE USING A RUGER, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A CUSTOM BARREL MADE FOR IT, WHICH WILL GIVE A GRATER RESULTS FOR AROUND $300 OR LESS...YOU'LL BE GREATLY PLEASED AND READY TO TAKE ON ALL CHALLENGES! P.S. I NEVER PUT IN A BDL, NEVER NEEDED IT.
You stated at the end you are now ready but I beg to differ. 1- remove scope. 2- install non Ruger rifle. 3- you can now shoot groups instead of shotgun patterns! 😊
How temp and altitude dependent are these dials ? My load is 2600-2640 at 30 degrees f but I know when it gets to 80f outside it could get up to 2700 ...... would I need multiple dials
When I ordered my dial the technician at Leopold had some of those answers. Some parameters are not critical. I think altitude was target level +/- 1000 ft (it was a long time ago so do not quote me on that). You could pull up an on line ballistics calculator and move numbers around to come up with your own sensitivity analysis. I chose a dial for what I thought an typical October would be as I hunt in October. Another point. The scope has 0.25 MOA adjustments. So at extended range you are a couple inch change per click.
Perhaps you don't need to shoot guns if you are incapable of figuring out the correct Allen wrench size. "Life is hard, it harder when you're stupid." ~John Wayne
I can’t get mine to go low enough. Supposedly bore sighted... took to range... way way high... adjust all the way down... aimed 18 inches below target... still missed target way high.
bgallaher77 or defective... I noticed that when I took the cover off the windage knob... the writing on it is all worn off... you can’t even read it... supposedly a brand new scope
CSPVISUALS Schmidt I just pulled out my rifle and took a second look. There does appear to be a crack between those two screws. It hasn't propagated very far. I wonder if there was a flaw in the casting? I can't imagine being able to put enough stress on the rings while tightening down the top to crack it. I believe I used a torque wrench when I installed the rings, and lapped the bottom rings. Before hunting season this fall I will be switching back to my 3.5-10x40 VX3 B&C and will take a good look at the ring at that time. Maybe Ruger will provide a replacement.
bgallaher77 I’m mounting on Weatherby Mark V and they have a high comb on the back that’s why I was asking what your thoughts were, using the Leupold 4.5x14x40.
@@bgallaher77 is it just an optical illusion because it seems like you have a high ring on tje rear and low front haha. Had my head tilted sideways like a confused dog
@Gage Pruett if I counted correctly this dial goes from 0 to 12 (large numbers) with 1/4 MOA clicks in between. Technically it would go to 14 (last large line) before 3 more small lines lead you back to 0. That would be 60 total clicks, the 61st click returning you to zero in one full rotation. Based on his chart in the video, 600 yards was like 49 clicks. I'm sure it's possible to get confused and go past, but you'd have to be shooting past 650/700 yards to complete one full rotation. I don't know about you but I don't shoot that far with my deer rifle...I have a long range rifle setup for that. So, although there is no physical "stop" at zero, if you only shoot your hunting rifle out to even 500 yards, you should never come close to surpassing a full revolution. I think another thing to consider is, this is the stock "sight-in" dial that comes attached. If you order the Custom Dial for your cartridge it will be marked differently and be less confusing, as it would show numbered yards (1 for 100, 2 for 200, 2.5 for 250, etc.)
My friend; "Leupold" it's a proper noun, as such if it was an individuals name he/she can "request" how you pronounce it, otherwise if it's a trade name then how different people pronounce it, be an accent or other speech type is all acceptable. So your Lew or Leo is all ok .....FYI
So, why is it that so many of you guys don't know how to pronounce the name of that scope company? It's pronounced "Loopold". If you doubt me, just call the company and listen to what the person who answers the call says.
Because the spelling causes some people to think it’s pronounced Lee Uh Pold due to the letter e before the letter u, and is a common mistake but understandable. Hope this answers your question!
10 years later this video is still helping people. It helped me greatly. Thank you sir.
11 years now helping for my hunt out here in Hawaii
I have that same gun in the same caliber left hand and just purchased that scope 1 week before deer season. Did not install it due to that but am working on it now. It is a great system and will print my drop tables out to make it work until I decide on the best load before I get my custom dial. I did install a new trigger which reduced it to 3 lbs, which was 3 lbs less than it came from the factory. Big difference right there. I watched this video before I purchased my scope along with information about the scope. Thanks for your video.
Good stuff, just ordered a 4x12x40 with CDS for my 270 Sendero..... All I shoot on bolt guns is Leupold.... Loopold... for the record!
I am a lefty and also went with the Ruger m77 series. I had to float my barrel but otherwise it is a tack driver for the price and ruggedness. I have the same rifle (except hawkeye, not Mk2) with the same stock and same scope! Just ordered my CDS
Thank you so much brother
I learn something new from you today I will try to buy
One leupold just like your
Good job 👏🏻 brother 💯
Given that your caliber speed fps match standard or tested ammo speed. Leopold can also engrave custom notes on cap matching your special hand load
You might consider a M Carbo replacement trigger spring. A simple install for $13.00 . My trigger pull is 2 pounds with a very clean break. Makes a lot of difference at shooting to sight in. I think it works well and is much better than replacing trigger.
I like the 2-7 scopes. They are small and light, and are all the magnification needed for hunting.
Some boxes of ammo have the ballistics for the load. You may get drop from the ammo manufacture's web site or a reloading manual. What you need is the drop at various yardage. Convert the drop to minutes of angle (MOA) or clicks. The CDS dial uses MOA, so I use MOA. With the purchase of the scope you will also get one custom dial, which give you yardage (no minutes or clicks needed). For drop to minutes calculation, check out my video "Calc Bullet Drop in MOA or Clicks come up ballistics"
Hey man thanks for the vid! Very well done explained nicely
great video! appreciate you posting it
Thank you have the exact scope on my Tikka T3 204
I just mounted a leupold 3x9 on a left handed ruger m77 scout ... and i just think its interesting that i watched this vid first and you have almost the same setup and watching this looked almost like you were holding my rifle
Can you buy just a moa knob like you got?? Is that considered a CDS? I’d kinda like to have a moa dial with data cards over a CDS for one load. My vx6 has capped turrets
Great vid, Got to get one for mine!!
Unfortunately, the CDS knobs are factory installed. I don't know if or how much it would be in to install them. Does your VX 1 have click adjustable factory knobs? Some of those scopes have friction knobs so target adjustable knobs will not work.
You might consider setting up the scope for point blank range. Eg, approximately and caliber specific, 2 inches high at 100 yards, so you will be on target at 250 yards, and 2 inches low at 300 yards. Use ballistic tables to get specifics.
There is no stop. Once the rifle is zeroed, then the dial is made to be loosened and spun, without change the scope settings, so that the zero on the dial lines up the with indicator line. The dial is then tightened. Typically I look at the dial when I adjust up and down. It would be possible to feel the clicks to keep track. It takes a look at the dial to confirm the setting. If you go past zero, then a quick look will show that the dial was overturned.
Can you put a cds on a vx3 with needed information.
Good information!
thanks, that my next scope , i have three standard vxll scopes you need a rifle vice
thanks for video!
Not bad if you still have the Ruger factory trigger.
I wouldn't be too hard on yourself for that 100 yard group. It is a Ruger after all lol! I'm looking to upgrade to the cds system on two rifles and this vid helped. Thanks!
The tiny screws are a pain. A ancient system
I wrap the CDS turret with white glow tape and mark the ranges with a black sharpie based on holes in the targets at long range.
My 10 year relationship with ballistic tables and chronographs is over.
Actual performance trumps expected performance every time. :)
YEP! A different type of rifling and barrel length can change data signifig, siginif, signefignan, tremendously.
can you get a custom dial outfitted for a vx-2 3x9x40?
Nice video
What size is the allen wrench. I lost mine
So is this like first focal plane. Like if you were to zoom all way in to your highest power, could you still shoot like you regularly would with having to adjust elevation
Sfp. You have to be on full zoom fornthe system to work propey
Where can I get a CDS ?
Where ya'll get the cheat sheet?
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!
What size is that allen?
Let’s say that it took 6 clicks of elevation to get your zero. Then you move the turret by taking it off and putting it back on the zero. Does this mean you have 6 clicks less of elevation adjustment? Do you need to keep up with this in the case you take off your scope to sell or move to another rifle?
I don’t think so, the zero stop is under the cap it can only go so far around
Good video where’s the link to your cheat sheet?
How do you develop the cheat sheet
with or without the scooter stick
Haha nice
UH...AT 100 YARDS, ALL MY ROUNDS ARE TOUCHING IN THE CENTER. THE AMMO I'M USING IS REMINGTON 130gr. NOTHING SPECIAL, BUT I DO HAVE MICROMETER ADJUSTMENTS ON BOTH ELEVATION AND WINDAGE ON MY LEUPOLD 3.5-10X50, NOT THE TALL TACTICAL ADJUSTMENTS. i DO HAVE HOWEVER A SLIGHTLY HEAVER BARREL THEN THE SPORTER BARREL WITH A 26.5" BARREL AND AS i REMEMBER, IT'S A 1 IN 9 TWIST.RATE USING ONLY 3 GROVES TO STABILIZE THE BULLET AND 3 THOUSANDS CLEARANCE...CUSTOM BARREL. IN A MAUSER FN SHORT ACTION ACTION. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE USING A RUGER, YOU CAN STILL HAVE A CUSTOM BARREL MADE FOR IT, WHICH WILL GIVE A GRATER RESULTS FOR AROUND $300 OR LESS...YOU'LL BE GREATLY PLEASED AND READY TO TAKE ON ALL CHALLENGES! P.S. I NEVER PUT IN A BDL, NEVER NEEDED IT.
Why is there two different size rings? One looks like a medium and the other a high.
You stated at the end you are now ready but I beg to differ.
1- remove scope.
2- install non Ruger rifle.
3- you can now shoot groups instead of shotgun patterns! 😊
Nice, laminate your cheat sheet
How temp and altitude dependent are these dials ? My load is 2600-2640 at 30 degrees f but I know when it gets to 80f outside it could get up to 2700 ...... would I need multiple dials
When I ordered my dial the technician at Leopold had some of those answers. Some parameters are not critical. I think altitude was target level +/- 1000 ft (it was a long time ago so do not quote me on that). You could pull up an on line ballistics calculator and move numbers around to come up with your own sensitivity analysis. I chose a dial for what I thought an typical October would be as I hunt in October. Another point. The scope has 0.25 MOA adjustments. So at extended range you are a couple inch change per click.
@@bgallaher77 thank you very much !!!
What size is the allen key? I lost mine and now I can't adjust my scope to match my new ammo.
Perhaps you don't need to shoot guns if you are incapable of figuring out the correct Allen wrench size.
"Life is hard, it harder when you're stupid."
~John Wayne
brutal lol. sorry Duke, I'm stealing that one. @@mr.noneyabidness
A whiteboard would help a lot
Damnit! Something is wrong with this video and I so wanted to hear what was going on.
So what if I’m shooting high at the zero on the CDS? I can’t lower it anymore?
You have to take the dial off when sighting in. Once you have it set you put the dial on in the zero position.
Trigger jerker target!!
I can’t get mine to go low enough. Supposedly bore sighted... took to range... way way high... adjust all the way down... aimed 18 inches below target... still missed target way high.
Who mounted the scope? Maybe the scope is not mounted correctly.
bgallaher77 or defective... I noticed that when I took the cover off the windage knob... the writing on it is all worn off... you can’t even read it... supposedly a brand new scope
nice video. is your rear ring cracked between the screws? never seen that if it is....
CSPVISUALS Schmidt I just pulled out my rifle and took a second look. There does appear to be a crack between those two screws. It hasn't propagated very far. I wonder if there was a flaw in the casting? I can't imagine being able to put enough stress on the rings while tightening down the top to crack it. I believe I used a torque wrench when I installed the rings, and lapped the bottom rings. Before hunting season this fall I will be switching back to my 3.5-10x40 VX3 B&C and will take a good look at the ring at that time. Maybe Ruger will provide a replacement.
Ruger has been good to me. Im sure they would replace it.
Where did you come up with that chart and how can I make one up? Enjoyed the video
Calc Bullet Drop in MOA or Clicks come up ballistics
ua-cam.com/video/SmDDPqvcttk/v-deo.html
What ammo are you shooting in your 270? Thanks
Every one did how to install CDS but no one did how to set zero and how to calculate
What height rings are you using? Low, Medium, or High??
I usually run medium rings. High rings are only needed, usually, when you have a front objective >40mm
bgallaher77 I’m mounting on Weatherby Mark V and they have a high comb on the back that’s why I was asking what your thoughts were, using the Leupold 4.5x14x40.
@@bgallaher77 is it just an optical illusion because it seems like you have a high ring on tje rear and low front haha. Had my head tilted sideways like a confused dog
Where is the link?
With no zero stop your going to be like me miss a buck because the dial was off one complete revolution.
@Gage Pruett if I counted correctly this dial goes from 0 to 12 (large numbers) with 1/4 MOA clicks in between. Technically it would go to 14 (last large line) before 3 more small lines lead you back to 0.
That would be 60 total clicks, the 61st click returning you to zero in one full rotation. Based on his chart in the video, 600 yards was like 49 clicks.
I'm sure it's possible to get confused and go past, but you'd have to be shooting past 650/700 yards to complete one full rotation. I don't know about you but I don't shoot that far with my deer rifle...I have a long range rifle setup for that.
So, although there is no physical "stop" at zero, if you only shoot your hunting rifle out to even 500 yards, you should never come close to surpassing a full revolution. I think another thing to consider is, this is the stock "sight-in" dial that comes attached. If you order the Custom Dial for your cartridge it will be marked differently and be less confusing, as it would show numbered yards (1 for 100, 2 for 200, 2.5 for 250, etc.)
Where do you get ahold of that cheat sheet?
Calc Bullet Drop in MOA or Clicks come up ballistics
ua-cam.com/video/SmDDPqvcttk/v-deo.html
My friend FYI the scopes name is Leupold (Lew...Pold) not Leopold (Leo...Pold).
My friend; "Leupold" it's a proper noun, as such if it was an individuals name he/she can "request" how you pronounce it, otherwise if it's a trade name then how different people pronounce it, be an accent or other speech type is all acceptable. So your Lew or Leo is all ok .....FYI
Funny how all the Leupold company vids and employees in the vids pronounce it Loop old.
Your name is pronounced Anthony landouche-bag for calling this guy out
not a big mistake but your cheat sheet is off on 400 yard clicks 6x4=24 not 25 lol
As soon as you mispronounced Leupold , by saying leApold it killed me a little
It's pronounced, "Loo-pold."
Loo-pold... NOT Leo-pold
Looked like a crack on your rear scope ring.
I seen that too
can't find u how to make a cheat sheet vid
Lou-pold, not leo-pold
Even more gun safety would be to remove the bolt.
It's pronounced "Loo-polled" not "Leo-polled". There is no 'O' sound in the first syllable simply because there is no 'O'.
Ok not sure how that helps.
It's not a Leopold
2 more clicks
So, why is it that so many of you guys don't know how to pronounce the name of that scope company? It's pronounced "Loopold". If you doubt me, just call the company and listen to what the person who answers the call says.
Because the spelling causes some people to think it’s pronounced Lee Uh Pold due to the letter e before the letter u, and is a common mistake but understandable. Hope this answers your question!
ConDeScending
Um... I hate to correct your English but... Leupold is not pronounced "leo-pold" it's pronounced "Lu-pold".
Has anyone found out that the windage dial is designed so it is loose?