Been a huge fan of Shai since his rookie year. It’s amazing to see how quickly he’s turned into the player he is today. Sucked to see him go in the trade but no regrets ab it
It's also wild that a guy that been averaging 31 points the last two seasons has a career high of only 44 points. That means he mad consistent since he doesn't have games where he went off for 60 upping his average.
So happy to finally see OKC have some success. Had that 'big 3' with PG, Brodie and Melo and they blew it up, for good reason. Watched SGA alongside CP3 that one season then a few years of bad losses to where they're at now. SGA is top 3 globally right now, and the team is special - we OKC fans be eating good this NBA season.
He doesn’t speak publicly much, I’m interested to know if him and the owners regret the harden situation and also the lack of shooters around Russ. I hope they’ve learnt
elite scorer playmaker and defender. just plays the game with so much poise moves at his own pace and just completely dominates every time. hardly any flaws to his game
It's pretty insane that OKC is playing this well rn while still having a boatload of lottery picks at their disposal. The league doesn't just have an SGA problem, it has an OKC problem overall.
love this video. terry rozier is also having a very underrated season. i know lamelo has been out awhile, but seriously look into roziers numbers if you haven’t !
@@JustMeELC might not be nostalgia from 20 years ago but this team reminds me of the young thunder team from the early 2010s and considering we haven’t been good in a while it’s nice to see. Sad to see ignorant people thinking they know what they talking abt considering how much different my life is in ten years. lol.
I'm so happy about the future of the NBA, it's in good hands! 25 and under Elites: Anthony Edwards, Luka Doncic, Shai, Jayson Tatum, and can't forget Tyrese Halliburton! Then you got guys like Devin Booker and Nikola Jokic who aren't even 29 yet!
Obviously not ag the level of the guys you mentioned yet but don’t forget about those tall dudes. Both are already top 10 defensive bigs and will only get better offensively
@@Steefbroganoffoutside Jokic all the players he mentioned don't have rings yet. Giannis is already past the majority of those guys right now. My boy Edwards tho, he on the come up getting some great mentoring from Conley Jr.
What’s up man this was a really well made video, keep it going bruh! I can sense your passion for the NBA and those clips of people speaking is a really nice touch, I’m biased but if you could make a video about Embiid that would be nice lol
Shai would not have had the same development with kawhi as his sf. I think he has been doing this well because of his role as the leader in the locker room and on the floor. Shai came in with Chris Paul and had numbers similar to his rookie year. Granted this was his second season, however, a 12 ppg jump from year 2 to 3 can’t mean he wasn’t that guy in year 1 and 2. It just means he wasn’t getting the touches he needed.
That literally makes no sense Jokic, embiid, Gianni's, Durant, haliburton, lebron, Lillard, Steph, and Tatum are all better or just as good on offense as luka And jokic, Gianni's, embiid, Tatum, sga, kawhi, durant, Edwards, Steph, and haliburton are all players that are OVERALL better than luka lol SGA is at least an actual top 5 overall player... But jokic Giannis embiid and Tatum are all better overall players In what world are they in a category all of their own? Lol
@@ginobjornabrera ya buddy ur definitely the typical delusional doncic dikriders lol Top 5 players don't miss the playoffs nevermind the play IN 🤣 B. You realize the Mavericks have been BETTER WITH LUKA OFF THE COURT THAN ON IT TWO OF HIS 5 SEASONS INCLUDING THE YEAR THE MAVS MADE THE CONFERENCE FINALS RIGHT? Luka has two NEGATIVE ON/OFF DIFFERENTIAL SEASONS... And the other three seasons he was BARELY a positive No other player considered anywhere NEAR the top 5 has EVER had their team be BETTER WITH THEM OFF THE COURT THAN ON IT LOL C. Luka is the worst transition defensive player I've ever seen in my life... He Constantly can't get his fat ass back on defense and leaves his team to defend 5 guys with 4... Which is why the Mavs are better without him on the court half the time D. Other than jokic and stroh who are anomalys offensively... All of the other players near the top 5 are GOOD ON BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE... SOME ELITE... Such as Giannis, embiid, Tatum, sga etc... E. The Mavs might miss the playoffs AGAIN this season, which would finally end all discussion of Luka being anywhere near the top 5 F. I'd LOVE to hear your argument for doncic being better than any of jokic, giannis, embiid, Tatum or sga... The ACTUAL top.5 in the NBA right now
@modernjam VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) is a statistic used in basketball to measure a player's overall contributions to their team, when compared to an average "replacement" player at the same position. So........ OKC been on my watch list.
VORP - Value Over Replacement VORP calculates a box-score estimate of the points per 100 team possessions that a player scores over a replacement player translated to the average team over a full NBA season
I'm taking PG over SGA in a pickup game, but I'm taking Shai to will a team to a win because he's accustomed to an offense depend solely on his creation.
As a huge Kobe fan, who watched all his career and the tail end of MJ's, his career most reminds me of them. Being willing to defend the opponents best perimeter player while at the same time being a 3 way scorer. Add in his ability to read the floor. To me he reminds me most of MJ and Kobe. Yes more than Booker, more than Tatum, Lavine, Murray and Edwards
His game is so crazy efficient There’s no wasted movement One or two moves to get to his spots he doesn’t over dribble He has counters, balance, strength, touch, vision it’s insane
Just on eye test alone...most skilled player in the league. You could argue Jokic, but those two are so different, I honestly can't do a head to head comparison.
I used to feel like I was spoiled with offensive stars back when I grew up watching Kobe enter his prime playing against AI and Dirk... meanwhile SGA is out here being third in scoring averaging over 31 points a game!
Comparing FG % is a pointless stat. Reason is it punishes 3 point shooters and you already have 3 point and FT stats. It should be replaced with 2 point FG%. Tatum actually shoots slightly better than Shai from both 2 AND 3. Tatum is at 56% 2FG while Shai is 55%. Its really just free throws that gives Shai the eFG% edge.
his game is slower, but otherwise pretty much iverson game there. the jumpshot, release, drive layups, step back, fade away to the left, low dribbling, long crossovers etc...slower but taller Iverson. i bet that he did work so much to master Iverson moves
Derozan would make zero sense. They really need a big guy that can rebound because Denver and Minnesota will eat them on the glass in a playoff series. They have to call Orlando who have 3 centers or LAC. Cleveland could also be an option if they decide to trade jarret allen. Or Andre drummond
@@Wrestle_Kingdomexactly, a lot of commentators talking about trades for thunder often don’t understand Sam prestis vision. He doesn’t want one dimensional players, every player on the roster can handle a little, pass a little, shoot a little, take it off the catch, defend. Well rounded high iq players. Everyone on the roster can shoot, even Giddey who everyone says can’t shoot hitting 37%
@@padenelliott5443Fr they won’t understand it and we need a center that can shoot we lead the leagues in drives so flood spacing is essential, would’ve loved if we could’ve signed Naz Reid in the off-season
I still never understand why people proclaim dynasties so early on, at least teams used to have win for dynasty to be in the discussion. But wtf is this, they've made one play in game and they're an automatic dynasty for 10 years? Have you followed this league before? Do you not remember when the same thing was said about OKC in 2012(when they had actually had playoff success). Player movement happens so much that you can't even predict the next 2-3 years
Me and my boy was talking the other day, we are heavyy boston fans btw. You starting your franchise around SGA or Jayson Tatum? I lean towards Tatum, but its close for sure and i couldnt argue with you if you chose SGA
it’s really close for sure, i say shai because i think they’re similar level defenders but tatum might be slightly better, they’re similar level scorers but shai might be a bit better, so those basically cancel out as even. but the biggest difference between them is i think shai is a better playmaker by a decent bit, plus he’s younger, so id honestly take shai. but it’s really close
It’s funny that this video started with a SGA/PG13 debate because it’s arguable that SGA is exactly what OKC wanted out of PG13 when they traded for him; AND MORE obviously.
shai also has the best voice in the NBA. that dude gon be on TV one day. I cant find one thing about SGA that i dont like at this point. call me a glazer idc.
Tatum has a lightened load compared to last year. he doesn’t shoot or control the offense nearly as much cuz of KP. SGA is fantastic but especially with Tatum’s elite defense it’s a close comparison not a gapping difference
honestly shai is just as good of a defender at his position as tatum. i think they’re very similar level players but i have shai slightly above because of his more efficient scoring and better playmaking. i think their playmaking ability is the biggest gap between them so i give the overall edge to shai
He's such a Canadian lol the accent is so recognizable
you gotta love it
😂😂😂
Who, Shai or Modern Jam?
Stats dont lie
He's clearly African American.
Been a huge fan of Shai since his rookie year. It’s amazing to see how quickly he’s turned into the player he is today. Sucked to see him go in the trade but no regrets ab it
I think the nba just wants to play favorites and cheat. Guys like him and Luka and not as good as people say they are but the nba helps them
@@George-CancelNBA definitely has its favorites
@@George-Cancelyou’re delusional
@@George-Cancelsad delusional take… they do cheat and pick favorites… but have you not watched luka and shai lol? They’re incredible
It took Trae 2 years to
It's also wild that a guy that been averaging 31 points the last two seasons has a career high of only 44 points. That means he mad consistent since he doesn't have games where he went off for 60 upping his average.
Good point
And he's doing it with great efficiency. He's a crafty scorer
What’s truly wild about that is a 12 point game would bring his avg down wayyyy more than a 60 point game would bring it up 😂
Shai is like that and being a diehard okc fan I’m loving every bit of it! Sam set this team up for years to come ⚡️
Not when he leaves and goes to Toronto😂
@@user-id8uz8ve1z you're dreaming!!
He’s like if Michael Jordan was Kobe
Okay, easy there!
I love Shai's game more than anyone else in the league if he was a bit more bouncy he's Mike frfr
So happy to finally see OKC have some success. Had that 'big 3' with PG, Brodie and Melo and they blew it up, for good reason. Watched SGA alongside CP3 that one season then a few years of bad losses to where they're at now. SGA is top 3 globally right now, and the team is special - we OKC fans be eating good this NBA season.
ong I've been tellin people to wait a little cause Ik it was only a matter of time until we started to win again
Sam Presti is the GM of the decade
No shit 3 MVP, and now another 2 very bright stars and 1 MVP candidate. He's probably the goat of GM rn 🤷🏾♂️
Danny Ainge
He doesn’t speak publicly much, I’m interested to know if him and the owners regret the harden situation and also the lack of shooters around Russ. I hope they’ve learnt
Presti is so good that people forget how badly he fucked up the Harden situation
@@Jack-jx6ln is that OKC team even winning a chip without Ibaka tho? He’s literally the backbone of their entire defense.
The crazy thing about Jrue’s comment is that Shai is not small he’s 6’6 and really lengthy 😅 like every other guy he named is hovering around 6’
He's literally 2 inches taller than Jrue lmao
Nah. Not crazy. Not “crazy.” /
he’s got a 6’11 wingspan too
elite scorer playmaker and defender. just plays the game with so much poise moves at his own pace and just completely dominates every time. hardly any flaws to his game
It's pretty insane that OKC is playing this well rn while still having a boatload of lottery picks at their disposal. The league doesn't just have an SGA problem, it has an OKC problem overall.
2nd yougest team too, they're barely scratching the surface of their potential
love this video. terry rozier is also having a very underrated season. i know lamelo has been out awhile, but seriously look into roziers numbers if you haven’t !
I really like how you laid out this video. Great work!
legit one of my favorite NBA UA-cam channels, keep the vids comin bro
VORP is how well SGA does compared to a sub. It's value over replacement player
As a Jokic fan, I believe this season MVP should go to SGA, he has been incredible this season.
Would be so dope for him to get a 40 50 90 season so people will admit how good he is
his 3 pt % is not good enough jet
50 40 90
He is good the problem is go look at his play in stats from last year and compare them to the regular season
@@dasregal3491if he takes like 1-2 3s per game he could totally do it
LMAO be quiet bruh this team is WAY different@@ZZZ-pu4yw
As a thunder fan born in 06 I’m so happy and nostalgic with this team
How can you be 17 years old and be nostalgic about anything?
Born in 06 & you think you know anything nostalgic lol
@@JustMeELC might not be nostalgia from 20 years ago but this team reminds me of the young thunder team from the early 2010s and considering we haven’t been good in a while it’s nice to see. Sad to see ignorant people thinking they know what they talking abt considering how much different my life is in ten years. lol.
@@Ericrawnsleydont be mad jus cause ya old
@@5berryjojofr old head ahh😂😂
I'm so happy about the future of the NBA, it's in good hands! 25 and under Elites: Anthony Edwards, Luka Doncic, Shai, Jayson Tatum, and can't forget Tyrese Halliburton! Then you got guys like Devin Booker and Nikola Jokic who aren't even 29 yet!
Obviously not ag the level of the guys you mentioned yet but don’t forget about those tall dudes. Both are already top 10 defensive bigs and will only get better offensively
no Giannis mention huh?
@@trytinnhe’s easily at the level of all those young guys tbf there’s a reason he was 1st team all NBA last season
@@Steefbroganoffoutside Jokic all the players he mentioned don't have rings yet. Giannis is already past the majority of those guys right now. My boy Edwards tho, he on the come up getting some great mentoring from Conley Jr.
Wait Jason Tatum is 25 and under??? 😮
What’s up man this was a really well made video, keep it going bruh! I can sense your passion for the NBA and those clips of people speaking is a really nice touch, I’m biased but if you could make a video about Embiid that would be nice lol
Shai would not have had the same development with kawhi as his sf. I think he has been doing this well because of his role as the leader in the locker room and on the floor. Shai came in with Chris Paul and had numbers similar to his rookie year. Granted this was his second season, however, a 12 ppg jump from year 2 to 3 can’t mean he wasn’t that guy in year 1 and 2. It just means he wasn’t getting the touches he needed.
luka and shai are in a class of their own
That literally makes no sense
Jokic, embiid, Gianni's, Durant, haliburton, lebron, Lillard, Steph, and Tatum are all better or just as good on offense as luka
And jokic, Gianni's, embiid, Tatum, sga, kawhi, durant, Edwards, Steph, and haliburton are all players that are OVERALL better than luka lol
SGA is at least an actual top 5 overall player...
But jokic Giannis embiid and Tatum are all better overall players
In what world are they in a category all of their own? Lol
@@JaGra-tm2mwyou are a hater. Luka has been in the Top 3 - 5 for the last 4 years
@@ginobjornabrera ya buddy ur definitely the typical delusional doncic dikriders lol
Top 5 players don't miss the playoffs nevermind the play IN 🤣
B. You realize the Mavericks have been BETTER WITH LUKA OFF THE COURT THAN ON IT TWO OF HIS 5 SEASONS INCLUDING THE YEAR THE MAVS MADE THE CONFERENCE FINALS RIGHT?
Luka has two NEGATIVE ON/OFF DIFFERENTIAL SEASONS...
And the other three seasons he was BARELY a positive
No other player considered anywhere NEAR the top 5 has EVER had their team be BETTER WITH THEM OFF THE COURT THAN ON IT LOL
C. Luka is the worst transition defensive player I've ever seen in my life...
He Constantly can't get his fat ass back on defense and leaves his team to defend 5 guys with 4... Which is why the Mavs are better without him on the court half the time
D. Other than jokic and stroh who are anomalys offensively... All of the other players near the top 5 are GOOD ON BOTH OFFENSE AND DEFENSE... SOME ELITE...
Such as Giannis, embiid, Tatum, sga etc...
E. The Mavs might miss the playoffs AGAIN this season, which would finally end all discussion of Luka being anywhere near the top 5
F. I'd LOVE to hear your argument for doncic being better than any of jokic, giannis, embiid, Tatum or sga... The ACTUAL top.5 in the NBA right now
@@JaGra-tm2mwHalliburton better than Luka is insane man
@@JaGra-tm2mwplease stop talking about basketball, that take is disgusting
He already is up there with those guy because hes number 3 in mvp voting and the okc are number 1 in power rankings
I haven’t been this happy as a fan since we were up 3-1 on warriors
@modernjam VORP (Value Over Replacement Player) is a statistic used in basketball to measure a player's overall contributions to their team, when compared to an average "replacement" player at the same position. So........ OKC been on my watch list.
Celts fan here - you’re absolutely spitting on the mvp race stuff fs
VORP - Value Over Replacement
VORP calculates a box-score estimate of the points per 100 team possessions that a player scores over a replacement player translated to the average team over a full NBA season
I'm taking PG over SGA in a pickup game, but I'm taking Shai to will a team to a win because he's accustomed to an offense depend solely on his creation.
As a huge Kobe fan, who watched all his career and the tail end of MJ's, his career most reminds me of them. Being willing to defend the opponents best perimeter player while at the same time being a 3 way scorer. Add in his ability to read the floor. To me he reminds me most of MJ and Kobe. Yes more than Booker, more than Tatum, Lavine, Murray and Edwards
My favourite player rn. Dude is elite
most underrated channel on yt
His game is so crazy efficient
There’s no wasted movement
One or two moves to get to his spots he doesn’t over dribble
He has counters, balance, strength, touch, vision it’s insane
Just on eye test alone...most skilled player in the league. You could argue Jokic, but those two are so different, I honestly can't do a head to head comparison.
VORP = Value Over Replacement Player
just means how much better they are over their replacement/sub i think
I used to feel like I was spoiled with offensive stars back when I grew up watching Kobe enter his prime playing against AI and Dirk... meanwhile SGA is out here being third in scoring averaging over 31 points a game!
Comparing FG % is a pointless stat. Reason is it punishes 3 point shooters and you already have 3 point and FT stats. It should be replaced with 2 point FG%. Tatum actually shoots slightly better than Shai from both 2 AND 3. Tatum is at 56% 2FG while Shai is 55%. Its really just free throws that gives Shai the eFG% edge.
his game is slower, but otherwise pretty much iverson game there. the jumpshot, release, drive layups, step back, fade away to the left, low dribbling, long crossovers etc...slower but taller Iverson. i bet that he did work so much to master Iverson moves
always got that crafty steal too😮💨
Derozan would make zero sense. They really need a big guy that can rebound because Denver and Minnesota will eat them on the glass in a playoff series. They have to call Orlando who have 3 centers or LAC. Cleveland could also be an option if they decide to trade jarret allen. Or Andre drummond
OKC needs a role player who can't be first 3 option offensively and if they can get Wendel Carter JR and/or Avdija/Toppin..
Players like Jarrett Allen and Drummond don’t fit okc and okc wouldn’t go after them
@@Wrestle_Kingdomexactly, a lot of commentators talking about trades for thunder often don’t understand Sam prestis vision. He doesn’t want one dimensional players, every player on the roster can handle a little, pass a little, shoot a little, take it off the catch, defend. Well rounded high iq players. Everyone on the roster can shoot, even Giddey who everyone says can’t shoot hitting 37%
@@padenelliott5443Fr they won’t understand it and we need a center that can shoot we lead the leagues in drives so flood spacing is essential, would’ve loved if we could’ve signed Naz Reid in the off-season
Great video, amazing high-quality content. You earned a subscriber!
P.S
VORP = Value Over Replacement Player
And don’t forget he’s CLUTCH
VORP is Value Over Replacement Player, basically how much more valuable he is than the players he gets subbed out for iirc
Honestly think okc is the next dynasty idk think they’ll be as dominant as the warriors but they’ll be a contender every year for the next 10 years
well a dynasty isnt just a contender for 10 years u gotta win and make finals bare minimum confrence finals consistently
They'll run into the problem of having to pay everyone. Curse of drafting so well eventually it catches up to you
I still never understand why people proclaim dynasties so early on, at least teams used to have win for dynasty to be in the discussion. But wtf is this, they've made one play in game and they're an automatic dynasty for 10 years? Have you followed this league before? Do you not remember when the same thing was said about OKC in 2012(when they had actually had playoff success). Player movement happens so much that you can't even predict the next 2-3 years
I wanna see a shai v. ant playoff series tbh that would be so fun
Almost every thought has a question mark at the end of it when he speaks
VORP should be Value Over Replacement anyway, what is it? Ask Jimmy I don't know
Me and my boy was talking the other day, we are heavyy boston fans btw. You starting your franchise around SGA or Jayson Tatum? I lean towards Tatum, but its close for sure and i couldnt argue with you if you chose SGA
it’s really close for sure, i say shai because i think they’re similar level defenders but tatum might be slightly better, they’re similar level scorers but shai might be a bit better, so those basically cancel out as even. but the biggest difference between them is i think shai is a better playmaker by a decent bit, plus he’s younger, so id honestly take shai. but it’s really close
@@BIGAMBERFAN im a die hard c’s fan so i have to go tatum but like i said i cant argue with anyone that picks sga at all
Its not like we going lose i didnt sing to lose was a true boss statement
Shais been my favorite player for the last 3 years i love to see this
He got 1st team all nba last year. That makes him top 5 ish player. hes not overlooked or disrespected.
It’s funny that this video started with a SGA/PG13 debate because it’s arguable that SGA is exactly what OKC wanted out of PG13 when they traded for him; AND MORE obviously.
vorp is value over replacement player, so how much better he performs than his backup
Never thought the next best guard would be Sga crazy
Most underrated youtuber in the league
If he starts hitting 3s, and he has a nice shot form, he might be deadass Goat bball player and be avg 40
THIS RIGHT HERE A NEW MODERN JAM.
best hoops channel on UA-cam.
shai also has the best voice in the NBA. that dude gon be on TV one day. I cant find one thing about SGA that i dont like at this point. call me a glazer idc.
I was not so sure about that but okc might win this season
That dude picking PG13 is insane, dawg.. take his drunk ass home..
New sub great content.
Yo Shay's numbers are like Jordan's.
Tatum has a lightened load compared to last year. he doesn’t shoot or control the offense nearly as much cuz of KP. SGA is fantastic but especially with Tatum’s elite defense it’s a close comparison not a gapping difference
honestly shai is just as good of a defender at his position as tatum. i think they’re very similar level players but i have shai slightly above because of his more efficient scoring and better playmaking. i think their playmaking ability is the biggest gap between them so i give the overall edge to shai
Steve Nash look out! He's coming for the Canadian crown!
Derrick White, props to you too
Kentucky fan here to say we told you so
2:40 Shoutout Scottie n Derrick
Me personally Shai top 5 but 5th. Like the list gotta include Giannis Embiid Jokic Luka and Shai
Hoops height? What was the people that made the list
Why they got him wearing his jersey tho like we don’t have UA-cam
He is 2 me a black Mamba 4 sure sure LUV ❤ALONE ❤RASTAFORI
If SGA played in Los Angeles or New York City, hed be a huge celebrity.
facts. can you imagine? if he was on the lakers he’d be in the news non stop
What a cool looking dude
A lot of people have been around Chris Paul, but no one has benefited like SGA. I feel like I'm watching prime Chris operate when SGA is playing.
this is our year2024
I loves shai he plays for my fav team but kyrie the smoothest nba player
Top 2 guard in the league rn
SGA is 25....move like KOBE and MJ..he got his nakakalason moves..
Two years ago I thought they should've traded shai and built around Giddey. I've gotta admit I was very very wrong
i think giddey still has the potential to be great but yeah it’s safe to say he’s not gonna reach the same level as sga
VORP means value over replacement player
Favorite PG period
The real Maple Jordan
VORP = player's value over replacement
VORP Means value over replacement
2:49 Derrick White is literally a PG … Jaylen Brown plays the 2-guard for the Celtics so don’t say he’s a SG
To be honest, didn't expect LeBron at age 126 to be 1 of the 7 in 90th +- for offense and defense. I woulda thought it was Kawhi or PG
How tf do you know a niche stat like PIE but not the 2 most common advanced stats in bpm and vorp.
Prolly bc PIE is on the NBA app when u click a played stats
Scottie is a point guard lowkey
Derrick White plays some point guard.
No Doncic in your top player list?
vorp is value over replacement
Vorp is value over replacement
He’s leading the league in steals, Jordanesque!!!!
This guy is like a modern day point guard version of MJ.
been saying this since he was young..
Really wish clippers never traded him away. We could have been good with him
I've never seen someone take so many jabs at their viewers before...and then a few minutes later you forget Google exists. What the
if okc gets lauri it’s wraps
Good player, free throw merchant tho
Canada proud
He’s gotta be 1st team this season.