@@thespiffingbrit Plus they don't have a Yorkshire Tea sponsorship to give them the unlimited power source of tea as a means to produce such an extended recording session
@@richtofen4888 well I don't know him personally but judging from the streams and podcast he seems constantly strung out, angry and short fused. Not really as relaxed like Angor Tom
Huh. The "I'm this looking for that" kind of categorization reminds me of LFG in games. You could see "Bear looking for Twink" right next to "Tank looking for DPS"
I’m a gay guy and honestly I’d never heard of chicken, chickenhawk, or wolf before! But it was super interesting and funny to hear you three talk about this stuff
Possibly baldness is on Lewis's mind a lot at the moment because he has receded quite a bit recently... maybe it's a bit scary to him, about how things might change soon :s
Just to reiterate, that's nothing to be ashamed of... male pattern baldness happens to more guys than not... it's not a fun thing to go through, but it's a part of life. He shouldn't be teasing pyrion about it tho!!
HyperNormalisation is my favorite documentary. Everything he says happened is 100% factual. Most people's problems with the documentary is whether something he mentioned was relevant and whether something he didn't mention wasn't relevant. You wouldn't think some Japanese gambler (Akio Kashiwagi) nearly bankrupted one of Trump's casinos, then Trump devised a plan to get his money back and bankrupted the Japanese guy who then got killed by the Yakuza, but that really happened.
Sometimes when PFlax talks about politics it riles me up. Some policies should be taken to the public because it affects the public. Like here in Australia our prime minister wanted to pass the "religious freedom" policy, which allowed employers to fire or not hire women for being women, doctors to refuse to prescribe the pill or sex change hormones based on discrimination alone, and childcare centres to refuse care to children of single mothers... for being single mothers. That's not something you want a bunch of expert misogynists to agree on and roll out without public backlash. There's more nuance to this than "Don't consult the public on anything," is all I'm saying.
I think pyrion was aiming more towards economic issues. You're right, I definitely believe social policies should be mulled over by the public before they're put into action.
Then again, consulting the public is what elections are for. You vote for someone, follow up to ensure they do what you want them to, and if they don't you don't vote for them again. If you end up with a bunch of misogynists in power it's because a controlling majority voted for misogynists. The basic structure is built so you vote in some non-misogynists next time around and have them fix it. Of course, you do have referendums for the really big changes, like suddenly reworking the entire electoral system or the constitution, but the general systems should be based on making the public discourse about changing minds, not directly influencing long term decisions based on short term events.
@@a_e_hilton Pretty sure that indicates a larger problem with the country in general. Which really just means you have to work at changing minds for longer. There's no shortcuts there.
I am POSITIVE that Pyrion has met furries that he thinks are cool people, but they don't tell him they are furries because they are afraid, and feel ashamed, because someone they look up to hates them. I'm not a furry, but what a prick.
@@billbuck3590 if you would like to hear what REAL furries are like, without the vocal minority butting in, the I can answer SOME questions, but not all of them, because I'm not a furry. But I have done lots of reading on them, then please ask, they aren't so bad, most furries are kinda cool dudes and dudettes.
One thing I've always wanted to know was the voice, does that come first or after ? Do you come out and then practice the voice or does it just come naturally
Gay guys tend to develop stronger relationships with girls at school due to often less bullying and a generally stronger connection of interests. Because of this they're voices can develop to sound more feminine. In the same way someone who lives in a foreign country from a younger age may develop an accent.
I agree wholeheartedly agree with Pyrion. It isn't your responsibility to solve the problems with society but it is your responsibility to elect the correct people who can.
Much more cheerful than last episode! But when's John Bovril coming back? His ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to his newletter. #BringBackBovril
51:00 I get what you're saying Pyrion about the public, but your underlying premise assumes that politicians have our best interests in mind. In the US, experts and politicians have lied and screwed Americans over so much, that a majority of Americans wanted anyone BUT a politician or expert, and that's how Trump became president. (Note: I'm interested in a flame war, I'm neither condoning or condemning Trump in this comment. I'm just laying out the circumstances of how he got elected).
'complex problems don't have soundbite solutions' is one of the smartest, most poignant things I've heard lately. And it came from Lewis. On this podcast.
I agree with the point pyrions saying, but if politicians have a great idea that'll solve a bunch of shit but no one cared about it or wanted it to go through but he just did it anyway people would then start to bitch an complain being like "this is no dictatorship you cant just do whatever you want we're not gunna take this" bullshit which'll complicate it even more
The difference would be that men will find a woman either attractive or not, but if he did, he'd be busy looking for a reason for that attraction. Whilst women when looking at themselves look for the flaws, compare their worst bit to the best bit of another woman and feel like they are losing the attraction wars. Eventually a woman realises that her body isn't precisely what men are looking for, it is just the excuse used for why they are looking for it with her and stops being quite so self critical.
I'm bi and I don't really have a problem with calling straight "normal" or "average" since that's just statistically true. I would have a problem with it if someone said it in a way that insinuated queerness as something detrimental but thats a case by case basis.
@@veemie8148 Well it is never one person's opinion that shifts the tide one way or the other. The only thing a small group of people can do is to retreat to a new frontier if they don't want to deal with conflict.
Gotta agree a little with Pyrion, could use a little more technocracy in government. Instead of churning every single fucking politician out of Eton, how about we get some STEM fields in there.
The two party political system is tearing apart countries. The US is a perfect example of this. George Washington stated in his address when he was leaving the presidency that, he did not want there to be political parties because they would divide the country. And guess what, he was exactly right.
37:45 lipstick lesbian is actually code for a certain kind of relationship. It's referring to a lip/stick sexual relationship where one of the lesbians is a pre-op or orchy-only transsexual who firmly identifies as a lesbian.
Earliest cartoons on movie film was porn-ish (smut/adult). It was only as it was pushed as cheap to produce for the interstitial between the sunday specials in the movies and therefore made kid friendly, after which it was mostly considered "for kids", because adults would prefer to pretend THEY never watched "that sort of filth".
Unfortunately, while the whole list of descriptors for gay guys is efficient, dating is incredibly difficult. There is a plague of non-commitment in the gay community. Whether it be caused by having lost their childhoods to the closet and overcompensating for their lost time in the gay scene, or just down to the male psyche on sex and relationships, commitment to relationships is very hard to come by. I'm very lucky to have found myself a boyfriend who just gets me and wants commitment to a relationship, but I've heard a few horror stories in my time.
Also, the other side may be that men, or anyone these days for that matter doesn't deem coupling up nearly as necessary as it may have been in the past.
The problem with America is that most politicians only care about serving their rich billionaire funders and couldn't care less about the people so we have to come up with the ideas and sell it to politicians until they finally get it done.
Coming to this after re-listening to the YoGPoD is really eye opening. That was 11 years ago and Simon said the word 'f~ggot' as a joke. It's funny to see how careful everyone is choosing their words in this conversation.
20:32
"We know what you meant... Hitler."
-Sips 2020
Please make these 5 hours long.
@@thespiffingbrit Exatly... lets hope they do it.
@@thespiffingbrit hence why we want a 5 hour one... we have seen jingle jam Civ streams
@@thespiffingbrit Plus they don't have a Yorkshire Tea sponsorship to give them the unlimited power source of tea as a means to produce such an extended recording session
@@thespiffingbrit segway is the mode of transport, segue is what you were looking for
@@DylanSwayneHughes Segway makes for funnier imagery though
Lewis: you're clumsy cause you're a laid-back guy
Pyrion: (literally takes anti-anxiety meds)
You can be laid back in some ways and still have strong anxieties in others.
@@Seanmcfarlane115 Lewis: you're clumsy cause you're a laid-back guy
Pyrion: (literally takes anti-anxiety meds but is laid back in some ways)
@@ctulhuone Well the anxiety meds would make him pretty laid back right
Scaling Fragment Exactly
@@richtofen4888 well I don't know him personally but judging from the streams and podcast he seems constantly strung out, angry and short fused. Not really as relaxed like Angor Tom
Pyrion: "I'm an Egg"
Northernlion, Somewhere in canada: "There can be only one..."
Nice
One day there will be a war of the eggs. I’m just waiting for it to happen.
Brings a whole new meaning to the phrase "which came first, the chicken or the egg?"
Huh. The "I'm this looking for that" kind of categorization reminds me of LFG in games. You could see "Bear looking for Twink" right next to "Tank looking for DPS"
I think that might be why they find it so interesting, seeing as they all played WoW extensively.
/2 3 man LF healer DPS Scholomance then GTG
@@maxavery8269 I don't know what I was thinking there. Tanks don't look for groups, groups look for tanks.
Twink LFG Van Cleef.
I’m a gay guy and honestly I’d never heard of chicken, chickenhawk, or wolf before! But it was super interesting and funny to hear you three talk about this stuff
Yeah I’ve only heard about half of them and twink and bear are the only ones I really hear people use
yeah I'm a straight guy who fucks a lot of gay guys and I've only ever heard twink and bear
@@MadsMadsen837 "im a straight guy that fucks a lot of gay guys" lmaoo that makes u gay bro
@@cal6738 bahahaha damn straight gay as Hell
@@cal6738 "well actually" in 2020? Let Mads live his best life.
it's a very pyrion flax opinion to think running is boring, while sitting in a chair 12 hours a day playing dota 2 of all games.
Rainbow six would make sense to play for half that time, Dota makes my eyeballs rot away in their sockets
That feeling when you put the podcast on whilst out on your long run and your hobby gets completely shat upon 😂😂 thanks guys
wow if i know anything and i know nothing it is that churchill never expected his famous war time speech to become about gay rimming
Man Lewis is so hungup on Pyrion's baldness. He brings up Pyrion's egg head every other episode
Head like an orange bald manc twat
Have you seen Lewis' hairline recently? not talking about the sexy skunk stripe :D
He's so hungup! He talks about it *about once every fortnight*
Possibly baldness is on Lewis's mind a lot at the moment because he has receded quite a bit recently... maybe it's a bit scary to him, about how things might change soon :s
Just to reiterate, that's nothing to be ashamed of... male pattern baldness happens to more guys than not... it's not a fun thing to go through, but it's a part of life. He shouldn't be teasing pyrion about it tho!!
I never expect I would learn some actual things in this podcast by 2.5 dads
I'm imagining pyrion ripping down his terry crews pin ups with tears in his eyes when he found out the shocking truth
HyperNormalisation is my favorite documentary. Everything he says happened is 100% factual.
Most people's problems with the documentary is whether something he mentioned was relevant and whether something he didn't mention wasn't relevant.
You wouldn't think some Japanese gambler (Akio Kashiwagi) nearly bankrupted one of Trump's casinos, then Trump devised a plan to get his money back and bankrupted the Japanese guy who then got killed by the Yakuza, but that really happened.
"We shall rim them on the beaches, we shall blow them on the landing grounds"
Fucking priceless..
15 mins in. Best triforce yet. The fear in Lewis and sips voices is beautiful when trying not to offend. Absolutely glorious.
As a gay guy i had no idea wtf half of those catagories where
I think it's more of a Grindr thing where appearance is a huge focus
@@chocoboasylum I used grinder for ages, only ever saw bear, twin and otter mentioned.
Lewis : "normal people"
Me, a gay: Absolutely hilarious
The production value has just gone up by 10000% with the soundboard
As a gay man listening to 3 grown ass straight men discussing gay slang is priceless! 😂
You understood that slang, im also a gay guy but didnt know like three quarters of the slang omg
i know right, hillarious.
As an American, I'm surprised there wasn't some uniquely British gay slang... Like, what we call a twink, they call a biscuit.
This was delicious
The only one I've not heard of is a chicken, and obviously chicken hawk. Cause twink is usually for teens to early 20s.
Lewis takes a bit to understand that these terms are just bodytype descriptions.
"Complex problems don't have soundbite solutions." Well done, Lewis
I think that was one of my favorite episodes so far! Real nice one guys!
Pyrion talking about politics helped me write my Wednesday mass Theology paper.
48:50 Animation on point 😂
In my day we used to refer to gym junkies in gay slang as a "Muscle Mary"
30:41 cracking my [REDACTED] on things
femur
I'm a bookworm looking to be devoured by a nightowl
Is a night owl just a really really early bird
That's some from the heart, real relaitonship advice from ol' Lulu, I respect that.
"Churchill was a pig, he fucking ate roast chiken for dinner, like breakfeast, like Henry VIII" - Lewis Brindley 2020
I think Pyrion forgot running has multiple forms of sport
Sometimes when PFlax talks about politics it riles me up. Some policies should be taken to the public because it affects the public. Like here in Australia our prime minister wanted to pass the "religious freedom" policy, which allowed employers to fire or not hire women for being women, doctors to refuse to prescribe the pill or sex change hormones based on discrimination alone, and childcare centres to refuse care to children of single mothers... for being single mothers. That's not something you want a bunch of expert misogynists to agree on and roll out without public backlash. There's more nuance to this than "Don't consult the public on anything," is all I'm saying.
I think pyrion was aiming more towards economic issues. You're right, I definitely believe social policies should be mulled over by the public before they're put into action.
Then again, consulting the public is what elections are for. You vote for someone, follow up to ensure they do what you want them to, and if they don't you don't vote for them again. If you end up with a bunch of misogynists in power it's because a controlling majority voted for misogynists. The basic structure is built so you vote in some non-misogynists next time around and have them fix it.
Of course, you do have referendums for the really big changes, like suddenly reworking the entire electoral system or the constitution, but the general systems should be based on making the public discourse about changing minds, not directly influencing long term decisions based on short term events.
@@Poldovico This is true, when you're not just choosing between one misogynist and another... 😅
@@rakuu9843 Yeah it did sound like he was talking more about economics. All is forgiven in that case 👌
@@a_e_hilton Pretty sure that indicates a larger problem with the country in general. Which really just means you have to work at changing minds for longer. There's no shortcuts there.
Just took a sip of tea at 59:30
That turned out to be a mistake 😅
Sips = Moose, Flax = Egg, Lewis = Twank Versatile
Love this podcast.
I describe even straight/unkown people as twinks or twunks. They're just very useful words for bodytypes.
All praise to Prime Minister Wolfy McFursona!
Yeah, it's called Eaton. LOL
"What would he have? Some kind of little rainbow badge?" Well theres one for your next lewis compilation
Met my bear boyfriend on Grindr it would seem most gay people need an update on what kinds of bears there are... Im an otter btw
Go for an otter, ease yourself in - P Flax 2020
I am POSITIVE that Pyrion has met furries that he thinks are cool people, but they don't tell him they are furries because they are afraid, and feel ashamed, because someone they look up to hates them. I'm not a furry, but what a prick.
He's not a prick.... Furies are just fucking weird and gross.
@@billbuck3590 ah, so you are a prick then. Cool.
@@corpralcobra420 No... I'm just not into bestiality.....
@@billbuck3590 oh, so you are stupid too. Great to know
@@billbuck3590 if you would like to hear what REAL furries are like, without the vocal minority butting in, the I can answer SOME questions, but not all of them, because I'm not a furry. But I have done lots of reading on them, then please ask, they aren't so bad, most furries are kinda cool dudes and dudettes.
Pyrion's Churchill impression at the end was brilliant
the random sounds that Sips makes after 36:40 had me dying
22:25 Damn Lewis, hitting nerves there
Gay slang and Lewis, this is gonna be good.
a clumsy egg? humpty dumpty?
Keep the quizzes alive!
One thing I've always wanted to know was the voice, does that come first or after ? Do you come out and then practice the voice or does it just come naturally
Gay guys tend to develop stronger relationships with girls at school due to often less bullying and a generally stronger connection of interests. Because of this they're voices can develop to sound more feminine. In the same way someone who lives in a foreign country from a younger age may develop an accent.
"Yeah we know what you meant.... hitler."
I agree wholeheartedly agree with Pyrion. It isn't your responsibility to solve the problems with society but it is your responsibility to elect the correct people who can.
Gopher: A man who likes a fist in him.
My ex used to call me a wolf. Personally I always thought my personality was more akin to a puppy, but maybe she was trying to make a point.
Much more cheerful than last episode! But when's John Bovril coming back? His ideas are intriguing to me, and I wish to subscribe to his newletter. #BringBackBovril
Love to listen to a podcast that isn’t about covid
Pyrion’s a bear.
A bear with a shiny head
51:00
I get what you're saying Pyrion about the public, but your underlying premise assumes that politicians have our best interests in mind. In the US, experts and politicians have lied and screwed Americans over so much, that a majority of Americans wanted anyone BUT a politician or expert, and that's how Trump became president.
(Note: I'm interested in a flame war, I'm neither condoning or condemning Trump in this comment. I'm just laying out the circumstances of how he got elected).
some of the earliest pornography was found in Egypt and guess where they found it. under the bed in a working-class house
Your foot is rather large
@@nobelprizelostmojo6994 you know what they say about women with big feet... ;)
@@DoubtfulCertainties big fucking moongaloopas
Tyrion is my favourite bald guy.
'complex problems don't have soundbite solutions' is one of the smartest, most poignant things I've heard lately. And it came from Lewis. On this podcast.
I love how they completely insult furries
Don't forget Going Live with Phil Schofield and Gordon the Gopher!
I've been looking forward to this quiz since Flax mentioned he'd do it on Discord. Glorious.
I agree with the point pyrions saying, but if politicians have a great idea that'll solve a bunch of shit but no one cared about it or wanted it to go through but he just did it anyway people would then start to bitch an complain being like "this is no dictatorship you cant just do whatever you want we're not gunna take this" bullshit which'll complicate it even more
Holy fuck that gay quiz jingle was amazing.
Pflax's voice goes astonishly well with a soft jazz backtrack xD
Pyrion - the most opinionated person of the three - moaning about people being opinionated!
The difference would be that men will find a woman either attractive or not, but if he did, he'd be busy looking for a reason for that attraction. Whilst women when looking at themselves look for the flaws, compare their worst bit to the best bit of another woman and feel like they are losing the attraction wars.
Eventually a woman realises that her body isn't precisely what men are looking for, it is just the excuse used for why they are looking for it with her and stops being quite so self critical.
This episode, fucking fantastic haha. Keep it up boys!
THERES A BONUS BEAR IN THE MAZE
Does anyone know what website pflax was on?
20:10 We need a new word for "normal."
I'm bi and I don't really have a problem with calling straight "normal" or "average" since that's just statistically true. I would have a problem with it if someone said it in a way that insinuated queerness as something detrimental but thats a case by case basis.
@@veemie8148 Well it is never one person's opinion that shifts the tide one way or the other. The only thing a small group of people can do is to retreat to a new frontier if they don't want to deal with conflict.
@@Terrakinetic you're speaking too poetic for my dumbass to completely understand at 3am but I get what you mean
Holy shit the last minutes of this were absolutely banger
@Pirion beware the discord will implode at some point .. People dont seem to be able to put their differences aside for the better good !!
Gotta agree a little with Pyrion, could use a little more technocracy in government. Instead of churning every single fucking politician out of Eton, how about we get some STEM fields in there.
Even in the future, nothing works.
Is there still going to be a bodega audio book?
Pyrion should be a monarchist.
The two party political system is tearing apart countries. The US is a perfect example of this. George Washington stated in his address when he was leaving the presidency that, he did not want there to be political parties because they would divide the country. And guess what, he was exactly right.
I know right, you can't have something as complicated as running a nation be divided into two opposing groups.
Pyrion is an egg. Good for her
What is an egg in this context? Im scared to google it.
@@samanthavanscoder9536 someone who hasnt realized they're transgender yet
@@xicheo haha thanks. I totally could have googled that
My opinion is that I don't accept Pyrion's opinion that people's opinions don't matter and I'd like everyone to base their opinion on this opinion
This podcast is saving my sanity ATM
im fat and im fine with people saying im fat
cause y'know, im fat
i know this, so
say the title as a twink, knew i was in for a ride
can already say, they're wrong about twinks: just means a baby-faced, slim, gay guy, nothing to do with being camp or masc
37:45 lipstick lesbian is actually code for a certain kind of relationship. It's referring to a lip/stick sexual relationship where one of the lesbians is a pre-op or orchy-only transsexual who firmly identifies as a lesbian.
Oh the ending I'm dead
Otter Erasure.
Yogscast talks about Gay Activity
plax just killed the vibe in that discord lol
Is pyrion using an app to play the theremin? If so I want to know which one so I can try. All the ones I found are just sine-wave generators.
Trust Lewis to try and science it 😂
Earliest cartoons on movie film was porn-ish (smut/adult). It was only as it was pushed as cheap to produce for the interstitial between the sunday specials in the movies and therefore made kid friendly, after which it was mostly considered "for kids", because adults would prefer to pretend THEY never watched "that sort of filth".
Damn, I'm early. Sounds like a good one...
Completely Agree with Pyrion on peoples opinions, and I realize the irony in writing this XD
Lewis having to pretend like he didn’t know what all of these terms were as if he didn’t have a Grindr. Lmao
sounds like p-flax wants a proletariat dictatorship... im in!
Unfortunately, while the whole list of descriptors for gay guys is efficient, dating is incredibly difficult. There is a plague of non-commitment in the gay community. Whether it be caused by having lost their childhoods to the closet and overcompensating for their lost time in the gay scene, or just down to the male psyche on sex and relationships, commitment to relationships is very hard to come by. I'm very lucky to have found myself a boyfriend who just gets me and wants commitment to a relationship, but I've heard a few horror stories in my time.
Also, the other side may be that men, or anyone these days for that matter doesn't deem coupling up nearly as necessary as it may have been in the past.
The problem with America is that most politicians only care about serving their rich billionaire funders and couldn't care less about the people so we have to come up with the ideas and sell it to politicians until they finally get it done.
I listened to this while running P-Flax :(
Adam Curtis documentary's are amazing!
42:31
Coming to this after re-listening to the YoGPoD is really eye opening. That was 11 years ago and Simon said the word 'f~ggot' as a joke. It's funny to see how careful everyone is choosing their words in this conversation.
The yogpod is super politically incorrect, and I think that's part of the charm.