Skyrim Analysis | A Quick Retrospective - Act 1

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  • @Patrician
    @Patrician  2 роки тому +5406

    Thanks to everyone tuning in.
    ANCIENT DRAGONBORN: I learned they weren't Dragonborn at pretty much the last possible minute (while listing out all the Dragonborn near the end of Act 2) and made the decision to just leave the mistakes in out of laziness, but also the realization that the mistake says more about the characters than anything I could have written. If they had been utilized better, I doubt an error like that would have survived in my script long.

    • @anonnymousperson
      @anonnymousperson 2 роки тому +47

      Is there going to be some sort of way to navigate this magnificent behemoth, like timestamps?

    • @hannahscott6198
      @hannahscott6198 2 роки тому +64

      @@anonnymousperson timestamps are in the description

    • @93camping
      @93camping 2 роки тому +14

      its the least I could do.

    • @deathdude42
      @deathdude42 2 роки тому +19

      You're making my weekend my man, these videos of yours are my absolute favorite online content in years.

    • @Screwball-D2
      @Screwball-D2 2 роки тому +9

      Thank you so much for all your countless hours of work. We all greatly appreciate the lengths you take to entertain us.

  • @thomaskirkness-little5809
    @thomaskirkness-little5809 2 роки тому +7447

    I love how the Riften Thieves' Guild discuss all their plans directly under the open well in the middle of the town market and they wonder why they have bad luck. Then they hire a mute and things suddenly turn around.

    • @IINC0RRECT
      @IINC0RRECT 2 роки тому +273

      🤣

    • @EinFelsbrocken
      @EinFelsbrocken 2 роки тому +489

      Thats... enlightening 😄

    • @aterriblespartan5051
      @aterriblespartan5051 2 роки тому +259

      I never thought of it like that 😂

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 2 роки тому +165

      lol, great way of putting it.
      _cut to clever girl scene_

    • @FletcherCat
      @FletcherCat 2 роки тому +26

      I can't tell if 'mute' is a joke or not tbh

  • @tohruadachi9767
    @tohruadachi9767 2 роки тому +3173

    Farkas murders the main character in cold blood and walks away slowly while saying: “You look strong. Come to Jorrvaskr and be a companion”
    Ah yes, the peak Skyrim experience.

    • @voratheexplorer6442
      @voratheexplorer6442 Рік тому +148

      To be fair, if you can get back up to get to jorrvaskr and join the companions after being bludgeoned to death, you're probably reasonably cut out for a warrior faction

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Рік тому +16

      ​@@voratheexplorer6442 They should hire more necromancers

    • @pastorofmuppets9346
      @pastorofmuppets9346 11 місяців тому +5

      No sign of em

    • @JasonX909
      @JasonX909 6 місяців тому +1

      @getthegoons So your Tyler Durden did it, just so someone could come kick the shit out of him?

    • @JasonX909
      @JasonX909 6 місяців тому +5

      @getthegoons Must've been your Tyler Durden. After all, we don't know what happens when a TES protagonist sleeps

  • @thespiffingbrit
    @thespiffingbrit 2 роки тому +14975

    *Ahhh yes this finally gets recommended 5 hours into a premiere...*

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 2 роки тому +270

      *there he is*

    • @Richi0h
      @Richi0h 2 роки тому +182

      The timezones confused UA-cam.

    • @SLDimarco
      @SLDimarco 2 роки тому +235

      The UA-cam algorithm, it just works.

    • @mattiasautio559
      @mattiasautio559 2 роки тому +148

      Thats what you get for breaking everything you touch

    • @yaytacc
      @yaytacc 2 роки тому +83

      Ahh yes, perfectly balanced review that can't be broken even by the power of being perfectly balanced Brit

  • @JimmyFoxhound
    @JimmyFoxhound 10 місяців тому +315

    It's funny, no matter the video if it's praising Skyrim or detailing it's weaknesses it still makes me want to go play it again for the 100th time. It just a comfy old blanket that holds so much nostalgia for me I can't help but still love it.

    • @literalynxxo
      @literalynxxo 9 місяців тому +39

      Same here! I agree with a lot of PatricianTV's points and the game has a lot of flaws, but watching this video... I can't help but want to go play Skyrim anyways.

    • @megapussi
      @megapussi 9 місяців тому +4

      Honestly the only reason I decided to finally watch this was because I was gonna play skyrim but all the mod packs are down. I agree with all these criticisms 100% aware I'll be crawling back to this mess of a game some day 😂

    • @Hozay1228
      @Hozay1228 8 місяців тому +10

      Guilty as charged, I’m playing it as we speak. I’m working through all the side quests after blasting through the main, for the millionth time. I’m already planning my next play through.

    • @okagron
      @okagron 8 місяців тому +11

      It does the opposite to me, makes my resolve stronger on hating this piece of crap videogame. Because Skyrim represents everything wrong with RPGs.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 7 місяців тому +2

      ​@@henrycrabs3497 They probably can have fun. Just not absent-minded fun for a specific game.
      I am intensely uninterested and even mildly disgusted by CoD. It currently and historically represents just about everything bad about gaming imo. But I get some of the biggest smiles of my life from games like The Cosmic Wheel of Sisterhood.

  • @PaddyRoon7
    @PaddyRoon7 Рік тому +2233

    It always bothered me that my character's soul was promised to like 8 different afterlives by the end of the game.

    • @Jay3up
      @Jay3up Рік тому +425

      It’s going to be a battle royal to see who gets the Dragonborn’s soul

    • @treycat7629
      @treycat7629 Рік тому +171

      ah yes, the elder scrolls equivalent to john Constantine

    • @ghoulishjoe
      @ghoulishjoe Рік тому +132

      John Constantine is immortal for the very same reason. After he dies various deitys will fight over what happens to him

    • @georgeoldsterd8994
      @georgeoldsterd8994 Рік тому +110

      I think we're misunderstanding what becoming a champion of a deity is supposed to be. Obviously the Dragonborn can't go to the afterlife of any of the Daedra, because their soul is, by default, part of Akatosh, and as such, would return to Akatosh no matter what. Way I understand it, one has to actually dedicate themselves to a particular deity, whereas the protags of the games just contact the Daedric Princes for some immediate profit.

    • @Jay3up
      @Jay3up Рік тому +83

      @@georgeoldsterd8994 what about the thieves guild quest line? You clearly pledge yourself to nocturnal also sithis if you join the dark brotherhood then there’s Mora at the end of Dragonborn

  • @christopherkilbridge8927
    @christopherkilbridge8927 Рік тому +3614

    I liked the part where he complained about magic for 2 hours, very relatable

    • @gabelachenman408
      @gabelachenman408 Рік тому +361

      Seriously. Every time I try to do a mage play through I get bored like halfway through and switch to something else.

    • @MrClubfoot90
      @MrClubfoot90 Рік тому +234

      ​@@gabelachenman408 Stealth archer 60% of the time every time.

    • @michapiechowski1810
      @michapiechowski1810 Рік тому +94

      ​@@gabelachenman408 i recommend a pure mage playthrough with the Vokrii + Odin mod combo. First time i actually felt like a proper mage in Skyrim

    • @caramel7050
      @caramel7050 Рік тому +191

      @@MrClubfoot90 i start out a conjurer and somehow end up a stealth archer with a bound bow..every time

    • @tiraund20
      @tiraund20 Рік тому +54

      As a mage player in every fantasy game, I second all that rant.

  • @yari4046
    @yari4046 2 роки тому +1667

    it's crazy how urag is like one of the most memorable characters from skyrim simply because "the arcaneum might as well be my own little plane of oblivion" is just such a character establishing line

    • @MadmanRobi
      @MadmanRobi 2 роки тому +165

      It's a line I stole while working as school librarian in high school XD

    • @Rannos22
      @Rannos22 2 роки тому +279

      It's amazing how effective just a sliver of good writing can be

    • @NuhDhulMitrain
      @NuhDhulMitrain 2 роки тому +17

      Dont remember him

    • @pquonbbx
      @pquonbbx 2 роки тому +57

      The fact is I haven't played skyrim in months, and I know urag instantly lol

    • @yari4046
      @yari4046 2 роки тому +206

      @@pquonbbx the line isnt even that insanely good but the fact that most of skyrim's dialogue is extremely boring makes the times where it's kind of good stick out so much more

  • @soulssurvivor3455
    @soulssurvivor3455 9 місяців тому +252

    Ever since the first time I listened to this video I come back to hear your magic rant again, it feels liberating to hear someone else understand my pain about magic in skyrim.

    • @TheNeighbor216
      @TheNeighbor216 8 місяців тому +15

      I've listened to his magic rant 4 times, fills my smooth brain with feel good juice listening to it.

    • @wandersagro
      @wandersagro 8 місяців тому +4

      Time stamp?

    • @thedarkoverlordofall
      @thedarkoverlordofall 8 місяців тому +15

      @@wandersagrobasically the whole college of winterhold section lol

    • @jacobbown
      @jacobbown 8 місяців тому +1

      same but for the companions and civil war.

    • @zachrowe6271
      @zachrowe6271 8 місяців тому +11

      3:47:00

  • @StrongStyleFiction
    @StrongStyleFiction 2 роки тому +2327

    Shamus Young had a great point about The Companions. Imagine you are walking down a sidewalk, maybe heading to the bank or something, and there is a road crew doing work on the road. You pass just as they finish and one of the workers runs up to you and says, "some help you were." It's the exact same thing with Aela and the giant fight at the beginning of the game. It's so ridiculous. Bethesda was so terrified of the player missing the Companions in tiny Whiterun that they shoved the faction into the player's face in the dumbest way possible. Then they did it again with the Thieves Guild.

    • @emackenzie
      @emackenzie 2 роки тому +208

      My favorite thing about that is how I got lost the first time I played and ended up in a dungeon before I made it to whiterun. I completely missed the encounter with the companions and the giant. As much as they tried to make it unavoidable, I missed it without even knowing it was a thing until my next character.

    • @carlostaffanelly418
      @carlostaffanelly418 2 роки тому +161

      Yet this never happens for the College of Winterhold. Sure, every court mage will tell you to check it out, but it is in no way forced on the character like the other 2 main factions. Thanks Todd

    • @MisterJoshuaTree
      @MisterJoshuaTree 2 роки тому +332

      I agree but it’s waaaaayyyyy dumber in the case of the thieves guild. Like… dude… it’s the THIEVES guild. Doesn’t it seem like the worst conceivable idea to literally walk up to random strangers and invite them to join your clandestine, secret, underground criminal organization? Like imagine walking into a pizza parlor in New York and some dude is like “ayy you look like you would be really good at intimidations rackets”

    • @liquidsleepgames3661
      @liquidsleepgames3661 2 роки тому +74

      Right imagine going into the sewers finding a bar with the bartender that asked you to get an item that was "stolen" and after that gets introduced to a friend that needs help without much detail thrown in just to meet him at a place at a time and you have to get back an item that was stolen from him after which you are told to go to a 3rd place where you are then formerly introduced to the thieves guild with the first two being tests about willingness to break into buildings and second that you can follow orders and instructions and show skill.
      Rather being walked up on in the town market announcing that I'm here to steal

    • @allkindaboy
      @allkindaboy 2 роки тому +42

      Happy to see that Shamus Young is still getting some love. He was such a great writer.

  • @redrum47
    @redrum47 Рік тому +2546

    I love how most elder scrolls fans are really passionate about the series while only really liking 1 game outta all of them

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 Рік тому +346

      Welcome to being a fan of literally any series

    • @songbird6414
      @songbird6414 Рік тому +226

      Best part of this is I don’t even know which game you’re talking about. My best guess is Morrowind but honestly Oblivion AND Skyrim are both also valid lmfao

    • @ChiotVulgaire
      @ChiotVulgaire Рік тому +133

      @@songbird6414 Don't forget Daggerfall and Arena, though of the two Daggerfall is definitely better.

    • @lillyclarity9699
      @lillyclarity9699 Рік тому +54

      and that game is ESO

    • @icypk6190
      @icypk6190 Рік тому +83

      it all depends on which is your first. oldheads love 2 and 3 while newf..s love 4 and 5. idk anyone who actually played 1 when it came out so uhh that i just wont count. its not like soulsborne where it just becomes preference to which iteration of the same formula you like the most. its like asking a new yorker which style of pizza is their favorite, of course theyre gonna pick new york style.

  • @Troopertroll
    @Troopertroll 2 роки тому +1027

    Killing Astrid was the first thing I tried, and seeing the quest failed text only to be immediately followed by "Destroy the Dark Brotherhood" was the most satisfying thing in the game.

    • @johnnymcgeez5647
      @johnnymcgeez5647 Рік тому +126

      .Too bad that quest really sucked...

    • @kymberlys
      @kymberlys Рік тому +1

      The best thing about it is that, if you don't decapitate her with your killcam, she actually whispers "well done" as she dies.

    • @greatulcer2117
      @greatulcer2117 Рік тому +110

      I'd say it's a shame there wasn't more of that kind of stuff, but that quest was rather lackluster, I don't know if they'd have made anything else you could "fail" and start a differing questline for would be any better.

    • @Treasure_hunter_21
      @Treasure_hunter_21 Рік тому +76

      @@Alpine1996 i wish they actually made a quest to destroy thiefs guild.

    • @johnnymcgeez5647
      @johnnymcgeez5647 Рік тому +48

      @@Alpine1996 Yup. Totally agree! I hate how they basically force you to be bad guy, or at the very least "The Antihero". And worst part is that it doesnt even matter what you choose in the game, its the cannon lore that states that you end up being connected to daedra. In oblivion you end up taking over Sheogorath's realm, and Dragonborn just becomes Hermeus Mora's new collectable. I hate that!

  • @TheSquizzlet
    @TheSquizzlet 7 місяців тому +134

    The part about the dark brotherhood and Nazir's "less important" contracts didn't even need to be so self-damaging with it's presentation and insistence on being less important. Just establish that Nazir is efficient and Astrid is creative, so the contracts that have weird requirements (Baenlin and the mounted head, Francois Motierre, to draw from oblivion examples) go through Astrid as she pieces together how to satisfy the client's unique requests, while the simple "Just kill him I don't care how it gets done" go through Nazir.
    His line should be something more like "I'll admit, my contracts aren't as glamorous or as exciting as Astrid's. I handle the simpler jobs that come through. There's plenty of work to be had here, but don't expect a grand elaborate heist." His established attitude even works with the idea that he handles simple and efficient contracts, while his teasing jabs and jokes can be how he copes with how boring the jobs tend to be.

  • @fish42
    @fish42 2 роки тому +2943

    Picture this: The year is 2060. TES6 finally came out in 2043, and now the time has come to look back at it. You and your adult children get together - the whole extended family does, in fact. PatricianTV’s 70 hour analysis is about to release, and the government has decreed that the winter holidays will be extended an extra two weeks (mandatory). You tell the grandkids stories of how you were there at the Oblivion and Skyrim analysis premieres. Maybe you watched the Morrowind videos the moment they first released.
    It’s gonna be a good 70 hours, you think to yourself.

    • @admiraltonydawning3847
      @admiraltonydawning3847 2 роки тому +128

      Picture this: The year is 2060. Will still hasn't come back to UA-cam after what he considered a harsh review of his content by Patrician.

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 2 роки тому +84

      @@admiraltonydawning3847 Picture this: Todd Howard in his old age has decided, after the contentious relationship with Morrowind fans and their 6 (soon to be 7) fan-ports into other engines (including TES6 and DaggerfallUnity3), to hire PatricianTV as his loremaster and lead supervisor to balance out retaining the old guard-- now several generations deep of Morrowind fans-- with pulling in new audiences with modernized action RPG mechanics and plots.
      You learn this fact from a cameo by old man Todd in the last 30 seconds of this 70 hours epic.

    • @anuraggdeshpande286
      @anuraggdeshpande286 2 роки тому +7

      Vaporwave

    • @pegwidgefakelastname3761
      @pegwidgefakelastname3761 2 роки тому +11

      only 70 hours?

    • @ZombieTreder
      @ZombieTreder 2 роки тому +8

      I was here! I WAS HERE!!!

  • @Unknown-bw2co
    @Unknown-bw2co Рік тому +1994

    I love these very quick video's. Im surprised more short style videos like this aren't more popular

    • @ostint912
      @ostint912 Рік тому +61

      I think it’s because most just don’t know how to explain things so expediently

    • @faith9505
      @faith9505 Рік тому

      The Way We Look at Things
      You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times.
      -2 Timothy 3:1
      Someone said, “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
      A Christian worldview will affect the way that we see everything. And why is this important? Because we are living in the last days. Jesus Christ is coming back again. And if ever there was a time when we need to know our Bibles and have a close walk with Christ, the time is now.
      Describing the end times, the apostle Paul said, “In the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control”
      (2 Timothy 3:1-3)
      Paul went on to say, “They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly”
      (verses 3-5)
      Is that not an accurate assessment of the times in which we are living? The United States has never been more spiritual yet more immoral. We throw the word spiritual around a lot. But do we know what it means?
      We live in an age when we can write our own apps and customize our home screens. We can keep the stuff we like and throw out the things we don’t. And we carry that thinking into other aspects of our lives. The result is something called moral relativism.
      Moral relativism is the belief that there are no absolutes. There is no right or wrong. Moral relativism teaches that we are all products of the evolutionary process and not made by a Creator God. There is no devil. There is no good or evil. And there is no plan or purpose for our lives.
      Moral relativism also teaches that we are all basically good, and if we happen to go bad, then it’s because we’re simply products of our environment. It teaches that we make our own truth.
      For instance, if you believe in a God of love, forgiveness, and mercy, you can keep that. But if you’re offended by the biblical teaching of a God of holiness, righteousness, and judgment, you can delete that. It works out perfectly. Or so it seems.
      Moral relativism may sound fine in theory. But what if we were to put it into practice? Will a god of our own making be able to save us in the final day? Of course not.
      A biblical worldview says there is a God as revealed in the Bible, and the Bible alone is the authority and source of that belief. It is not what we feel or what is popular, acceptable, or perceived as cool. It is what the Bible says.

    • @CoolestGuyInTheRoom
      @CoolestGuyInTheRoom Рік тому +36

      Average attention span is 30 seconds, if we’re lucky. Good thing this is the shortest vid yet.

    • @Justausername10
      @Justausername10 11 місяців тому +1

      Idk what you’re talking about?!? It’s literally 9 hours!!!

    • @iainoftheizzetleague9850
      @iainoftheizzetleague9850 11 місяців тому +20

      @@Justausername10 r/woosh

  • @jasonfenton8250
    @jasonfenton8250 2 роки тому +1171

    The hired thugs trying to kill you can lead to some unintentional silliness. My first encounter with them was leaving Solitude. I was very surprised and it was a tough fight because I was on the highest difficulty (before a patch added a newer highest difficulty).
    I then read the contract and learned it was the innkeeper I had stayed with. I stole some small consumable (I think a potion?) from my room. I had basically done the equivalent of not paying for those overpriced snacks that some hotels offer, and the innkeep responded with attempted murder.

    • @angeljaimes3543
      @angeljaimes3543 2 роки тому +230

      You stole the really special hotel soap.

    • @amorphati
      @amorphati Рік тому

      I thought Pat said that they don't sell thuggs for stealing, only for killing the people they know??

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil Рік тому +89

      I vaguely remember doing something similar, I think I misclicked on something and accidentally stole a flower or whatever from a shelf, I dropped it hoping to not get a bounty and the thugs showed up as soon as I left the building. Word gets around fast for a place with no internet.

    • @vahlok1426
      @vahlok1426 Рік тому +50

      I've had thugs hired to come after me multiple times by children, which is just silly.

    • @TheAnonyomusGuy
      @TheAnonyomusGuy Рік тому +2

      No it's actually worse because the letter no matter who hires the thugs States that they don't have to kill you but they don't care either way

  • @xxArCxxWavExx
    @xxArCxxWavExx 7 місяців тому +244

    Advising people to comment a timestamp to save their spot is genius for engagement.

    • @FeviviViper
      @FeviviViper 6 місяців тому +2

      Lmao you’re probably right

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 6 місяців тому +21

      HE PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!

    • @Gamernutritionfacts
      @Gamernutritionfacts 4 місяці тому +5

      Only works for ultra-long form vids like this though

    • @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger
      @The_Faceless_No_Name_Stranger 4 місяці тому +18

      NAH CHIEF, MAMA RAISE NO QUITTER! I RAW DOG THE WHOLE VIDEO

    • @widexawake_
      @widexawake_ 2 місяці тому

      @baronvonbeandip Guys, I found Robin Atkin Downes 👆

  • @sophiem3560
    @sophiem3560 Рік тому +625

    "there are no priests of nocturnal"
    "what if the other priests find out we're not really priests?"
    accidentally setting up a hilarious situation where every priest of nocturnal is afraid that the other priests will find out they're not really a priest of nocturnal

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 11 місяців тому +49

      That's got to be a Family Guy skit somewhere

    • @damienfields1503
      @damienfields1503 8 місяців тому +11

      That's the plot of the man who was Thursday

  • @lyricholmes1827
    @lyricholmes1827 Рік тому +293

    The dedication of actually dropping everything and heading to Windhelm only to be out of lock picks is the peak of comedy

  • @tgr3423
    @tgr3423 2 роки тому +954

    Seeing Meridia's Beacon in that Egg Sac had me crying of laughter for a solid 2 minutes

    • @mathias3721
      @mathias3721 2 роки тому +127

      Seeing "Meridia's Beacon" in the loot window made me physically cringe in anticipation of the dialogue

    • @austinbevis4266
      @austinbevis4266 2 роки тому +26

      Can’t believe I caught that as well in this 9 hour video. Is that where you’d normally find that?

    • @pablocruz5613
      @pablocruz5613 2 роки тому +118

      @@austinbevis4266 it’s a random drop, I’ve found it in every odd nook and cranny from random chests in the wild to inside dungeon chests. It’s like a clingy ex who won’t get over the fact you dumped them.

    • @GhostOfSnuffles
      @GhostOfSnuffles 2 роки тому +90

      *a nEw hAnD tOuChEs tHe bEaCon!*

    • @austinbevis4266
      @austinbevis4266 2 роки тому

      @@pablocruz5613 oh lol, I always remember finding it on a pedestal. Maybe that’s where you end up placing it

  • @AlexanderLaGranda
    @AlexanderLaGranda 9 місяців тому +510

    This kind of short-form content is ruining this generation’s attention span

    • @DeepCFisher
      @DeepCFisher 4 місяці тому +1

      Ok boomer

    • @0condolences
      @0condolences 2 місяці тому +11

      ​@@DeepCFisher shuddup nerd ☝️🤓

    • @jk3jk35
      @jk3jk35 2 місяці тому

      ikr

  • @wwirelesswwizard
    @wwirelesswwizard Рік тому +550

    1:13:20 It reminds me of a Tumblr post that someone made a while ago, where they pointed out that Bethesda's "environmental storytelling" is usually just placing a dead body somewhere and placing a note on it that's like, "Oh, no, I've been murdered!"

    • @Black_Caucus
      @Black_Caucus Рік тому +26

      LMAOOOOOOOO

    • @lightningkitten
      @lightningkitten Рік тому +107

      "i sure hope i don't become a skeleton :("

    • @mischiviousteefmonster3900
      @mischiviousteefmonster3900 Рік тому +104

      Reminds me of the one cave that drained the life energy of anyone who was in it, and some guy kept a journal with entries spanning several days right up to the point of death about he was starving, thirsty and so weak he couldn't lift his arm... yet he was writing that in perfect handwriting at the same time, instead of just crawling his dumbass out of the cave to fucking survive and escape it's draining touch.

    • @xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7
      @xvx_k1r1t0_xvxkillme7 Рік тому +23

      A better example would be the Wooden Mask you can find at the Dragon Priest summit, its subtlely implied that the Thalmor were after the Khonarik Golden Dragon Priest Mask and made a time-travelling mask to find it, but his bodyguards killed him in suspicion.

    • @machomanalexyt5736
      @machomanalexyt5736 Рік тому +7

      @@lightningkitten that made me laugh harder than it should have

  • @FraternityOfShadows
    @FraternityOfShadows Рік тому +827

    Honestly, after all these years, I'm waiting for TES VI only because i hope patritian will make that 40-hour sprint review

    • @ryszakowy
      @ryszakowy Рік тому +32

      same
      i don't care about the game and won't even pirate it
      but i'm waiting to see if it comes out at all so patrician tv can make a 30 hour any % speedrun analysis

    • @CJ-wh7ik
      @CJ-wh7ik Рік тому +2

      It will be his magnum opus

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому +9

      That review will come out 6 years after the game launches tho

    • @AChunkyDog
      @AChunkyDog Рік тому

      me want Oblivion remaster

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому +6

      @@AChunkyDog skyblivion is releasing next year

  • @GhostOfSnuffles
    @GhostOfSnuffles 2 роки тому +355

    Best part about the Companions quest line is that you can tell off Aela when you first meet her after the giant fight and she'll still invite you to join them anyways.
    She's the original Preston Garvey, no matter what you say she still adds the quest to your journal.

    • @alekz8580
      @alekz8580 Рік тому +14

      I stole the gate key for whiterun off her so i could get in after telling the guard to go to hell.

  • @Gamernutritionfacts
    @Gamernutritionfacts 4 місяці тому +42

    These two videos should be mandatory viewing for at least some TES 6 staff

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 4 місяці тому +13

      The whole series should be mandatory viewing for *the whole* staff. They should watch it as a group and argue over the points he makes for a week or two straight.

    • @Gamernutritionfacts
      @Gamernutritionfacts 4 місяці тому +11

      @@baronvonbeandip I think it’s mostly important the senior designers and leads watch the videos. I’d say emil in particular needs to watch these but we all know how he deals with criticism, so i’m not holding my breath that any of this will get through to the person who needs to hear it most lmao.
      Really it just makes me sad that a series with as much untapped potential as the goddamn elder scrolls has to languish as a result of devs who decided long ago that dumbing down the game’s systems to the point where character role play wasn’t even really viable anymore was the best way to sell more copies. The worst thing is that it did, and went on to bolster their highly flawed ideas about about what players wanted from their games. They kept taking meaningful stuff out under the pretense of keeping things simple. Now we have starfield, a game with so few meaningful mechanics to engage with that it’s not really anything special to anyone. It just exists in this lame state of being kind of alright at everything.
      Idk, hopefully some senior Bethesda devs played baldur’s gate or something and had a come to Jesus moment about how shallow their modern “RPG” games are by comparison. The future of elder scrolls is looking grim quite honestly.

    • @beeman4266
      @beeman4266 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@Gamernutritionfacts Honestly none of that matters if they insist on using a game engine that's one of, if not the worst, in the industry. I have never played games that feel worse to play than Bethesda games.
      Your character feels like a floating camera with zero feedback. The gunplay in starfield is just.. wow. They should teach college game development classes about how not to make a video game feel good to play and use Bethesda games as an example.

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 3 місяці тому +3

      ​@@beeman4266At least the older titles were RPGs where you could kinda get away with it. The closer it comes to action adventure, the more obvious the engine flaws are.

    • @mortemtyrannus8813
      @mortemtyrannus8813 3 місяці тому

      The whole series (Morrowind, Oblivion, both Skyrim and Starfield videos) should be mandatory viewing for Todd and Emil especially. A lot of the problems with the later games come down to their direction and writing respectively.

  • @RoleCrow
    @RoleCrow 2 роки тому +872

    I felt your rage on the magic system man, Bethesda is like a pizza place that sells the best pizza dough of all time, but they are to lazy to make the other ingredients good since the dough sells so well, so the rest of the ingredients are literally human feces, so you go buy dough and make the rest of the pizza by yourself in your house with mods.

    • @belhariry
      @belhariry 2 роки тому +41

      They need someone like Obsidian to handle the story and dialog for them for the elder scrolls games like Obsidian did for Fallout New Vegas. Just focus on the world design

    • @blackosprey2219
      @blackosprey2219 2 роки тому

      @@belhariry why pay someone when you have an entire mod community to monkeys-with-typewriters a better game?

    • @johnny1599
      @johnny1599 2 роки тому +141

      @@belhariry Obsidian is a terrible company now, and they will not help in any way shape or form.
      I would rather play Fallout 4, again, then have to sit through the slog fest that is Outerworlds. "We get it, you're a communist"

    • @vahlen5281
      @vahlen5281 2 роки тому +116

      @@johnny1599 Sadly true, the Obsidian that made New Vegas simply does not exist anymore.

    • @ChineseNinjaWarrior
      @ChineseNinjaWarrior 2 роки тому +1

      I can't agree more.

  • @bosh6604
    @bosh6604 Рік тому +962

    My first contact with the companions:
    1.Get yelled at for not helping
    2.Enter Building with 2 people fighting
    3.Use my heal spell which seemed to bug them out, they draw their weapon and go on a rampage
    4.About 5 people are now dead

    • @kingdavey90
      @kingdavey90 Рік тому +116

      It just works.

    • @Straline.
      @Straline. Рік тому +45

      worst questline imo. Just kinda bland and doesn't introduce anything. CoW atleast had a good couple mechanics that were special.

    • @Willzb-xk4ew
      @Willzb-xk4ew Рік тому +20

      Sounds about right, same if you try to stop rogvirs execution

    • @SR-1998
      @SR-1998 Рік тому +25

      @@Straline. Not true, you get the werewolf ability which you will use as rarely as possible

    • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
      @PANCAKEMINEZZ Рік тому +3

      Certified Companion moment.

  • @BlueTempestTV
    @BlueTempestTV 2 роки тому +474

    I never realized the potential of Skyrim VR until I saw the footage of you waking up Mirabelle Ervine, groveling at the statue of Meridia, and slapping the orc who was talking in the middle of Malacath's speech. I've watched your Morrowind and Oblivion retrospectives multiple times start to finish, thanks for another 20 hours of entertainment.

    • @rubycosmo6279
      @rubycosmo6279 2 роки тому +24

      It was shoving the Dawnstar guard for me

    • @KommissarBanx
      @KommissarBanx 2 роки тому +6

      Tbh with certain mods like Spellsiphon, magic feels so good in SkyrimVR and the melee combat works well enough that you can still be a little campy.
      Absolutely my favorite way to play Skyrim

    • @charlottegerken4477
      @charlottegerken4477 2 роки тому +11

      Oh my gosh, when he pushed on her face repeatedly, then her bed becomes occupied while chatting.... simply priceless!

    • @nihilisticpoet
      @nihilisticpoet 2 роки тому +7

      Witnessed the orc slapping today as finished Part II. That slap was carried out with pure authority.

    • @indictmntt
      @indictmntt 2 роки тому +5

      i need timestamp

  • @BeanEaterExtraordinaire
    @BeanEaterExtraordinaire 3 місяці тому +18

    I find it weird that Emil had that speech where he talks about people "Ripping the pages out of your great novel and making paper airplanes with them" When it was the acknowledgement from the audience on his Dark Brotherhood storyline in Oblivion that made him so important in Bethesda

    • @ProjectRedfoot
      @ProjectRedfoot 3 місяці тому

      Also, he knows what an airplane is 😮

  • @cogsworther1639
    @cogsworther1639 Рік тому +772

    I found Riften so funny during my playthrough. I'll be honest, my initial reaction was pretty positive. I thought that having a crooked guard try to swindle you as you enter was a nice touch and a good first impression for the "Thieves Guild City."
    Then all that goodwill was instantly lost when I actually entered and five separate NPC's approached me to announce how much they *love* crime
    It's a great example of media undermining itself by lacking all restraint. They couldn't just drop a big hint that this town had crime and corruption, they had to go so over the top with it that it swings back into absurdity

    • @EA_SP0RTCENTER
      @EA_SP0RTCENTER Рік тому +20

      This is why I kill the thieves guild every playthrough.

    • @razorblaze4522
      @razorblaze4522 Рік тому +78

      Genuinely so much of Riften's intrigue could have been saved by just having the talk about the thieves guild be prompted by the player talking to someone saying "hey i almost got mugged by the guards" and then the thieves guild gets introduced. After the player starts asking around Brynolf comes up to them and starts asking them if they're interested in actually joining the guild or if they're going to have a problem

    • @kibnob
      @kibnob Рік тому +31

      I would have settled for literally any player choice whatsoever

    • @faith9505
      @faith9505 Рік тому +8

      The Way We Look at Things.
      You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times.
      -2 Timothy 3:1
      Someone said, “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
      A Christian worldview will affect the way that we see everything. And why is this important? Because we are living in the last days. Jesus Christ is coming back again. And if ever there was a time when we need to know our Bibles and have a close walk with Christ, the time is now.
      Describing the end times, the apostle Paul said, “In the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control”
      (2 Timothy 3:1-3)
      Paul went on to say, “They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly”
      (verses 3-5)
      Is that not an accurate assessment of the times in which we are living? The United States has never been more spiritual yet more immoral. We throw the word spiritual around a lot. But do we know what it means?
      We live in an age when we can write our own apps and customize our home screens. We can keep the stuff we like and throw out the things we don’t. And we carry that thinking into other aspects of our lives. The result is something called moral relativism.
      Moral relativism is the belief that there are no absolutes. There is no right or wrong. Moral relativism teaches that we are all products of the evolutionary process and not made by a Creator God. There is no devil. There is no good or evil. And there is no plan or purpose for our lives.
      Moral relativism also teaches that we are all basically good, and if we happen to go bad, then it’s because we’re simply products of our environment. It teaches that we make our own truth.
      For instance, if you believe in a God of love, forgiveness, and mercy, you can keep that. But if you’re offended by the biblical teaching of a God of holiness, righteousness, and judgment, you can delete that. It works out perfectly. Or so it seems.
      Moral relativism may sound fine in theory. But what if we were to put it into practice? Will a god of our own making be able to save us in the final day? Of course not.
      A biblical worldview says there is a God as revealed in the Bible, and the Bible alone is the authority and source of that belief. It is not what we feel or what is popular, acceptable, or perceived as cool. It is what the Bible says.

    • @DaLatinKnight
      @DaLatinKnight 11 місяців тому +25

      Oh boy I sure do love crime.
      Wait why are you taking out your weapon and quick saving?

  • @artifica0
    @artifica0 2 роки тому +659

    Mechanics Timestamps
    43:35 - Radiant Quests
    1:21:40 - Combat
    2:17:59 - Stealth
    3:46:35 - Magic
    4:56:40 - Levelling
    5:46:43 - Dungeons
    6:24:36 - Alchemy & Enchanting
    8:46:01 - UI
    8:54:39 - Music

  • @t0mbst0neyt
    @t0mbst0neyt Рік тому +753

    Love the fact that the Auger of Dunlane is just a huge scaled up Magelight

    • @Naxhus2
      @Naxhus2 Рік тому +62

      magelighthouse

    • @azuragoddess
      @azuragoddess Рік тому +51

      I hate the fact that you can't skip his useless dialogue. He really just says a bunch of nothingness.

    • @nagger8216
      @nagger8216 Рік тому +4

      ​@@azuragoddess"But duuuude the lore!1!"

    • @ernestomejia8242
      @ernestomejia8242 Рік тому +30

      I like to think that casting magelight is casting a mini auger

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +11

      ​@@nagger8216"Mmmm yes, a bounty of soul energy from the greaaaat collaaaapppse."

  • @joshuatarr3343
    @joshuatarr3343 3 місяці тому +46

    It feels good to know that my anger and rage about the magic "system" isn't just me. Calling it now that TES6 will have 3 spells per school, and 3 schools total. I see restoration getting phased out and made available to all.

    • @azathoththe3rd
      @azathoththe3rd 2 місяці тому +6

      Mysticism rest in Peace

    • @petrus9067
      @petrus9067 Місяць тому +4

      Restorarion is already pretty much avaliable to all. I bet on alteration being cut and turned into unlockable boons or something

  • @kevint1929
    @kevint1929 2 роки тому +582

    Got to the bit about the werewolfs-THANK YOU! It was always so irritating to have a nord warrior character having to abandon the nord warrior afterlife to play the nord warrior questline

    • @privatepessleneck
      @privatepessleneck Рік тому +72

      yeah it's kind of weird how shallow the warrior questline is for the game that is rather warrior oriented. I mean heck the primary antagonists are just reskinned bandits but with silver swords and alchemy ingredients. there *might* have been cut content that would have made the silver hand more interesting. But nothing came of it.

    • @sigrdrifa0
      @sigrdrifa0 Рік тому +20

      @@privatepessleneck heckin heckerino, here ave a updoot friendo, omg i love doggos and reddit sooo much lol im so rndom lolooll

    • @vexx80000
      @vexx80000 Рік тому +78

      @@sigrdrifa0 Heck is more than a Reddit word, no need to have PTSD over a euphemism for hell.

    • @ginge641
      @ginge641 Рік тому +58

      @@sigrdrifa0 Are you having a stroke?

    • @phobiahd9954
      @phobiahd9954 Рік тому +1

      @Victoria Thorson
      Based. Too many redditoids polluting everything with their repugnant jargon. They're already coping and seething after being found out.

  • @fartgarfunkeljr
    @fartgarfunkeljr Рік тому +515

    The funniest thing I remember from my most recent playthrough is never going to whiterun and never letting dragons exist. Truly liberating

    • @steel5897
      @steel5897 Рік тому +98

      The fact that it works like that bothers the hell out of me. Luckily the alternate start mod Skyrim Unbound has an option so dragons spawn x in-game days after the beginning of the game regardless of what you do. Even cooler, you start the main quest by killing one of them on your own and dynamically finding out you're the dragonborn when you absorb its soul. It's such a cool change.

    • @fartgarfunkeljr
      @fartgarfunkeljr Рік тому +61

      @@steel5897 lol I just love not having to deal with dragons tbh

    • @rayw.6677
      @rayw.6677 Рік тому +2

      @@helter1234 Better have good sneak or your fucked lol.

    • @augustopinochet1670
      @augustopinochet1670 Рік тому +26

      The Dragonborn? Ive never heard of him.

    • @eldermoose7938
      @eldermoose7938 Рік тому +11

      it's literally been 3 years since I've seen a dragon

  • @FullOvellas
    @FullOvellas 2 роки тому +499

    The state of the Winterhold College really bugs me. I wanted so bad to roleplay a magic student and not two lessons in I was archmage.

    • @TheFloodFourm
      @TheFloodFourm Рік тому +30

      Play Oblivion.

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade Рік тому +75

      Thanks to some finicky looseness on the definition of what "casting a spell" means, you can become Archmage without having ever cast a spell yourself.
      The least educated Dragonborn can just pick up a couple staves or scrolls and be hailed as the new Archmage.

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Рік тому +34

      Despite how fun to play Skyrim is this game never deserved 10/10

    • @731freeman
      @731freeman Рік тому +3

      @@TheFloodFourm is Oblivion that much better?

    • @matrix3509
      @matrix3509 Рік тому +33

      @@731freeman I wouldn't call the Oblivion Mage's Guild questline "good" exactly, but it at the very least actually tries to replicate what being a student of magic would be like. In fact that's what most of the questlines in Oblivion are: lacking in objective quality, but you can at least tell there was real effort put in and there ARE good ideas there. Unlike Skyrim's quests.

  • @MLPDethDealr32
    @MLPDethDealr32 10 місяців тому +129

    I got one for you. Doing the Thieves Guild as a Vampire. Which are RESISTANT TO POISON. So paralysis poison SHOULD HAVE HAD NO EFFECT. X_X

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 8 місяців тому +50

      But it's a *special* poison.
      *waves hand vaguely*

    • @drago3036
      @drago3036 8 місяців тому +39

      "It's symbolic. I wouldn't expect you to understand."

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 6 місяців тому +30

      ​@@drago3036"Couched in mythic allegory and symbolism."

  • @totalgarbage2053
    @totalgarbage2053 11 місяців тому +649

    The craziest thing about the Companions isn’t just that they force you to become a werewolf. But when you first turn, the game *expects* you to go kill random Whiterun civilians to test out your powers. Like, these guys are supposed to be mercenaries that defend the city. And they just let you loose to go kill innocent people? Why not have the player character go on a werewolf rampage in the silver hand base? Or better yet, have the silver hand attack on Jorvaskyr happen much earlier in the questline minus the slaying of Kodlak that way the newbie player character Companion can prove himself further by testing his werewolf skills on people who actually deserve it and thus protecting the home of the Companions while doing so. Skyrim is the only game where the heroic warrior factions make you feel more like a scumbag rather than a hero

    • @Kaneland2014
      @Kaneland2014 11 місяців тому +111

      I remember way back on release when I first did that quest, I did go on a rampage not thinking much of it. Only during that killing spree, Belethor happened to be leaving his shop and aggroed, and I killed him during the scene, which meant he was dead for good after the transformation ended. Which meant that, until Ysolda decided to take up the mantel, I just didn't have access to the Whiterun general store for a non-insignificant amount of time.
      Hell, instead of rampaging in the city, they could have had an underground training area that they used for the new Werewolfs to get the hang of their powers while also not potentially harming innocent people during it.

    • @samfire3067
      @samfire3067 10 місяців тому +38

      You don't need to go on The rampage, you just need to wait for like 5min. With you do that they will Say "Many of Us don't have the luck to not go on a bloodbath on your first night as a werewolf"

    • @totalgarbage2053
      @totalgarbage2053 10 місяців тому +119

      @@samfire3067 yeah so basically, the game still expects you to go kill random npcs because the Companions will have special dialogue just in case you decide not to 😭

    • @MmeCShadow
      @MmeCShadow 10 місяців тому +48

      @@samfire3067 I think the point still stands that they know a newly turned werewolf is generally inclined toward a blood rage and left you in the middle of a town to go through it. Even if you can just stand in place, the Companions are impressed that you didn't slaughter the people they put you in a position to slaughter.

    • @Igelme
      @Igelme 9 місяців тому +13

      Are you guys dumb? Did you not read the 3 lines of dialogue before the blood ritual? The whole point of the night of the transformation is to RP how you would act as a werewolf (either rampage or just leave the city) and you get a dialogue acording to your choice. We know thanks to Aela that some werewolves can control themselves and others just go feral. Just because you're smoothbrained and need to click every red dot on map for a dopamine release doesn't mean the game is badly designed. If this sort of roleplaying option was on morrowind you guys would praise it 😂.

  • @Hellblazer191
    @Hellblazer191 2 роки тому +239

    Your Elder Scrolls retrospectives helped me get through three months of hospital last November. Now, a year later, I get to look back at that time and enjoy a new instalment of your wonderful series. Thank you very much Pat!

  • @coltonowens2742
    @coltonowens2742 Рік тому +530

    One thing about Skyrim I will unquestionably praise is the OST. Its absolutely fantastic across the board.

    • @daniel_najar
      @daniel_najar Рік тому +47

      True, but don’t forget how amazing Oblivions sound track was. Jermey Soule is a genius.

    • @carmandirda
      @carmandirda Рік тому +9

      I still listen to it all the time

    • @Justagamerhere1
      @Justagamerhere1 Рік тому +7

      And to think Jeremy Soule started by recording things like the leaky office sink as sound effects for Secret of Evermore. :)

    • @Rannos22
      @Rannos22 Рік тому +6

      The world map is very pretty too

    • @coltonowens2742
      @coltonowens2742 Рік тому +24

      @@Rannos22 Yeah it is. Actually I really like Skyrim's graphics even now. It has a very consistent art style, and everything is modeled quite well. It is a huge step up from Morrowind, and especially Oblivion. Might not be bleeding edge anymore, but Its a far cry of being butt ugly, like many games of its generation.

  • @emcdunna
    @emcdunna 8 місяців тому +59

    What I've learned from this video is that typical RPG progression mechanics are fundamentally incompatible with "flexible playstyle" mentality. You can't have enemies get harder over time and give players more damage on their main abilities and then expect them to be successful starting over with something new

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 7 місяців тому +7

      You should probably unlearn that because its untrue. Just because Bethesda sucks at conveying the idea doesn't make it a bad one.
      As an example, if the RPG skills were agglutinative as opposed to exclusionary, avatar strength would scale linearly with player level. If the pool that strength drew from was shared to all skills, strengthening that pool would simply scale everything uniformly (more or less).

    • @WarCriminalPhlox
      @WarCriminalPhlox 5 місяців тому +8

      ​​@@baronvonbeandipif levelling up your strength also increased your arrow and magic damage than it's already not a *traditional RPG mechanic*, bc the entire point of role playing is making choices about your character progression, and homogenizing it like this would make the choices irrelevant. That's also why flexible playstyles are incompatible with a traditional RPG experience, bc a traditional role play involves you picking a role and playing as it. How often do you see in fiction mages deciding to trade their staff for a bow or warriors deciding to battle with pure magic for a couple fights; not often right, because people don't abandon the skills they've learned for years. The best way you can achieve flexibility is just allowing people to refund their levelling/perks in RPGs that use the traditional system like Fallout, so that you can just take back all the upgrade points and perks you put into and place them into new categories. Though I don't see how this could work with Elder Scrolls levelling system where the skills level up by usage

    • @pravkdey
      @pravkdey 4 місяці тому +2

      I think the way STALKER did level scaling was good. Basically an open world FPS, mostly killing humies but also mutant monsters. In the begining areas you're mostly fighting dudes in tracksuits, cuz russian game, and cheap, simple guns. then later one you're fighting experienced fighters with advanced body armour and weapons, and the monsters get more dangerous and numerous too, as well as environmental hazards.
      So the baseline humans basically don't change, just their gear and tactics, which you can get as well, and the monsters and environment hazards kind of scale up too as you get more experienced with dealing with them, and as an add on there's a story reason for all this too. Felt very natural, and you can always go back and curb stomp the early areas. Heck u can even "downgrade" yourself by changing back your gear to the lower level stuff and see how well you fare with only your new experience on how the game works. Not much reason to actually do this but I loved the games so I just did for fun, which I think is a good sign of a good game

    • @petrus9067
      @petrus9067 Місяць тому

      I think a way to allow that flexibility while still being a "typical" rpg mechanics wise is not scale most enemies to the player, instead allowing that you can go back a notch and grind for levels/exp/points, as well as allowing refund of perks and stuff like that. Or maybe a multiclass system, where you can unlock classes and they level separately but that has a lot of stuff to consider too.
      I think re-speccing could be fine in tes in a limited sense, like think of a 360° circle as the playstyles and maybe you can remake your playstyle in like, 120° slice or something.
      Not that i think anyways that tes should do this because again, role playing + just start a new playthrough. If you couldn't do every single faction, daedric quest and other multi choice questlines inbthe same character you would be more incentivized to try to rellay the game with other characters.

  • @guysingerii
    @guysingerii Рік тому +1059

    The problem with this game is you hardly ever go to the sky. Not even the rim of it. So the game already lies to you on that alone. At least Morrowind had a lot of wind storms and other wind related things.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Рік тому +115

      Not only was the wind today, but it was also on the morrow. Also with fatigue if you ran and jumped very far and were attacked you would go 'Far, then fell'.

    • @halcionjoy7
      @halcionjoy7 Рік тому +17

      It's funny because part of the game has you go through the valley of the wind at dawn or dusk to find the moon-and-star.

    • @Mr._Anderpson
      @Mr._Anderpson Рік тому +13

      The frightening thought is there will be at least one person who reads the comment above & nods along without irony, rather than dismissing it as the equivalent of someone scratching "For a good time, call" on a bathroom stall.

    • @richardlionerheart1945
      @richardlionerheart1945 Рік тому +11

      Also nerevarine always sets things off to tomorrow to make time for his power nap

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Рік тому +7

      @@richardlionerheart1945 Nerevarine "We start later every tims you interupt my sleep."

  • @user-bl6oj1hl8i
    @user-bl6oj1hl8i Рік тому +486

    I recall a post about Todd Howard being in chess club, model UN, debate club, and Tennis or something. With a caption along the lines of: "No wonder he thinks it's acceptable to be master of all guilds and factions". Just something rewatching this series has made me remember

    • @sceptile6375
      @sceptile6375 Рік тому +13

      1:52:38 This video was the first time I saw that post

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому +12

      Tyler Mcvicker exposed those as lies though. Looking at the yearbooks of the school he went to he was never in the chess club

    • @Evarakeus
      @Evarakeus Рік тому +24

      ​@@wile123456He was in the chess club in middle school

    • @nifralo2752
      @nifralo2752 6 місяців тому +11

      Howard to me comes off as someone who has blundered into success. Someone who has won the lottery.

    • @frauleinhohenzollern
      @frauleinhohenzollern 4 місяці тому

      He never lies

  • @raydayo8048
    @raydayo8048 2 роки тому +564

    Can't wait for this 36-hour-long epic to fall asleep while listening to for the next month!

    • @dportillo1
      @dportillo1 2 роки тому +46

      I go to sleep to a random chapter and continue watching whatever chapter is on when i wake up, its a pretty weird but awesome experience.

    • @Sulticune
      @Sulticune 2 роки тому +15

      This, I love going to bed, putting on a video like this and relaxing while listening!

    • @exiiesaid8004
      @exiiesaid8004 2 роки тому +9

      Another person with great taste I see haha.
      I often put one of Patrician's elder scrolls videos on to go to sleep.
      good stuff 👍

    • @bom.6658
      @bom.6658 2 роки тому +1

      @@dportillo1 this is exactly what I do dude

    • @Bionickpunk
      @Bionickpunk 2 роки тому +3

      @@dportillo1 I just go back to the chapter I last remember listening to before I fell asleep.

  • @antleymeese2147
    @antleymeese2147 3 місяці тому +18

    I feel my bones trying to escape my skin every time I hear Emil Pagliarulo say “great American novel”
    which is often because I constantly watch this video

    • @frauleinhohenzollern
      @frauleinhohenzollern 2 місяці тому +2

      Omg same. I started double tapping the video to skip it whenever he talks during that part

  • @domier8000
    @domier8000 Рік тому +400

    One idea that I've seen to make the companions questline much better deals with the silver hand being a group that split off from the companions after the circle became werewolves. That the silver hand stayed true to Ysgramor and their nordic heritage by rebelling against lycanthropy and trying to find the pieces of wuthraad to honor Ysgramor. This would've added so much depth and maybe you could've even joined the silver hand to return the companions guild to their former glory, rather than being forced to become a werewolf.

    • @himynameis3664
      @himynameis3664 Рік тому +36

      I really like this idea. Such a simple concept that might not have taken much time to incorporate into the factions quest line. And as you said it would add so much depth to the companions, along with providing an interesting way to have a meaningful interaction with the silver hand.

    • @haruhirogrimgar6047
      @haruhirogrimgar6047 Рік тому +15

      ​@@himynameis3664 I wouldn't say that would be a quick or easy add. You would need to make new quests (even if they are just radiant quests featuring wolfs and maybe a werewolf), a comparable number of voice lines, unless Bethesda wanted to be super lazy they would need the town to have opinions on the Silver Hand killing and replacing the local guild. Add this to Patrician's theory that the werewolf stuff was added late and they were already ignorant enough about denying becoming a werewolf.
      Some fans could probably do a barebones version of it. Or a really good version depending on voice acting and the ability to avoid breaking the game by killing the Companions.

    • @cassi5420
      @cassi5420 Рік тому +4

      @@himynameis3664 It most likely would have taken a LOT of time to implement. Knowing Bethesda’s writing process, they would not only add more depth to the Silver Hand (in this case completely reworking who they are, creating more characters and needing more voice lines) but would also dehumanize and strip depth from the Companions. As cool as it would be for the Dragonborn to have to choose between a no-nonsense guild of werewolf hunters or a community-bound guild of werewolf warriors, The Elder Scrolls isn’t really known for their ability to create dynamic, impactful, and difficult choices. I may be wrong but I believe this idea came from Fudge Muppet and is honestly a very good idea. However the fact that the Silver Hand in game is just a bandit faction with silver weapons proves Bethesda either did not have time or simply didnt care

    • @codemonster8443
      @codemonster8443 Рік тому +3

      And you know what? Kodlack DOES NOT like being a ware wolf in the end. He actively wants to un-lycanthrope himself, and silver hand respect him for this. Maybe silver hand and circle were at peace because both respect Kodlack. Then mid point in quest Kodlack dies because and this causes Sliver hand and Companions to go war. The war is about who gets to do what to body. Circle wants to burn him in Skyforge so his body strengthens their weapons while Silver hand want to un-lycanthrope Kodlack and show everyone in Skyrim that Circle are ware wolfs.

  • @agroed
    @agroed 2 роки тому +357

    At this point you and Private Sessions are just competing to see who can monopolize more of my free time and I'm loving it.

    • @Guitar-Dog
      @Guitar-Dog 2 роки тому +10

      Thanks for the recommendation, I love long form stuff.
      Point and click adventure breakdowns by oneshorteye have been my binge recently

    • @Materialist39
      @Materialist39 2 роки тому +31

      @@Guitar-Dog patrician wasn’t kidding when he said that despite collaborating closely with Private sessions and holding a similar philosophy/style, they take very different approaches to their videos on the game. I can confidently second the recommendation

    • @ChiefCrewin
      @ChiefCrewin 2 роки тому

      @@Guitar-Dog Oh do you now? May I introduce...Mauler and EFAP

    • @tequilawhiskey
      @tequilawhiskey 2 роки тому +18

      @@ChiefCrewin are they still beating the SW and Marvel horse? I can only hear disney bad so many times

    • @arya-dl1ml
      @arya-dl1ml 2 роки тому +4

      @@ChiefCrewin mauler just gives pedantic long ass plot recaps lol

  • @FlawedFabrications
    @FlawedFabrications Рік тому +874

    What gets me most about the companions is that when you transform for the first time, you're supposed to go on a rampage of Whiterun and kill a bunch of people before the companions manage to stop you. And when you return to Whiterun afterwards? There's not a single fucking thing in the entire 'city', not even a line from an NPC or a fucking notice on a wall somewhere, that even suggests a werewolf went rampaging through the cloud district and murdering a bunch of people. Not a SINGLE THING. The game reacted to this so poorly that for like 5 years I literally thought it was a dream sequence and didn't actually happen. But no. It did happen. Not only this, but it's suggested to have happened before with Farkas and probably others, and yet no-one in Whiterun seems to remember the fact that on multiple instances Werewolves have suddenly come out of Jorvaskr and started tearing people apart. Lmao.

    • @jamessimpson3337
      @jamessimpson3337 Рік тому +74

      There’s also the exit to the countryside outside the walls of Whiterun too. There should’ve been dialogue acknowledging how the player handled the immediate influx of a ton of power in the form of your werewolf form. One line would be about a werewolf tearing through Whiterun and, hopefully add some extra NPC’s and guards set to a low level to sell the power the player just gained, then have a separate line you can hear radiantly off a werewolf roaming the countryside.

    • @SuperRONDALE
      @SuperRONDALE Рік тому

      I imagine that we were more stealthy and people just disappeared

    • @puppykitten4779
      @puppykitten4779 Рік тому +3

      Lmao, you could have just left whitrun by getting back into the underforge and leav through the cliff there without ever leaving any eye witnesses

    • @PANCAKEMINEZZ
      @PANCAKEMINEZZ Рік тому +26

      On a sidenote, can we talk about how Whiterun is home to several daedric artifacts by the time we arrive and after we're done?
      You've already got the Ebony Blade up in Dragons reach, just collecting dust in the basement. And then the Companions are hoarding a small shrine basically dedicated to Hircine under the Skyforge. And then we proceed to collect more relics of Hircine near the altar.
      How is Whiterun not more cursed?

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 Рік тому +5

      @@puppykitten4779 You can literally just stand there behind the hall and nobody comes after you, nobody can see you. I just sit there and wait till the transformation ends, every time.

  • @jayanths1221
    @jayanths1221 7 місяців тому +250

    *Looks at video length - 9 hours*
    "Holy shit"
    *Looks at title - Act 1*
    "HOLY SHIT"

  • @mozeytown
    @mozeytown Рік тому +400

    Nobody's going to see this, but I just wanted to point out that Jyrik's staff is not ONLY a lightning staff with a restoration staff's model, but also casts a unique version of the lightning spell that no other weapon in the game can cast. Usually lightning weapons deal X damage to health and half as much to magicka; Jyrik's staff deals X damage to health and TWICE as much to magicka, making it surprisingly strong against other magic users - including dragons.

    • @tilly4273
      @tilly4273 Рік тому +15

      Hey you thought no one would see this, but I, another magic player, did!
      I also wanted to point this out. Jyrik's staff is like a baby staff of magnus depending on when you get it, and it remains somewhat useful throughout the questline and definitely helps with morokei whenever you happen to fight him at a point where dragon priests are actually a threat.

    • @salmon_wine
      @salmon_wine Рік тому +8

      My first Skyrim playthrough was a magic playthrough and it also put me into the Skyrim Limbo that I don't think ive ever woken up from... Very cool, wish it was told to the player. Wish I had some resource that could tell me all the unique unlisted weapon effects... maybe some kind of sheet that I could spread out and look at...

    • @Xeinok
      @Xeinok Рік тому

      I saw dis

    • @CharlieKellyEsq
      @CharlieKellyEsq Рік тому +1

      Ackschually

    • @richardlionerheart1945
      @richardlionerheart1945 Рік тому +2

      @@salmon_wine it is in the item description

  • @NASkeywest
    @NASkeywest 11 місяців тому +503

    The Silver Hand is a group of people who lost family an loved ones to Werewolves. So, they joined together for revenge. See Bethesda, wasn’t hard to make a simple back story

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions 9 місяців тому +55

      And they would go on to do it again with the _Gunners_
      Just slightly better eqquiped raiders in the same way the Silverhand are just slightly different Bandits.

    • @gabethebabe3337
      @gabethebabe3337 9 місяців тому +70

      They could have also been lead by people who were originally Companions until they found out about the whole werewolf thing. Hell maybe they were railroaded into joining the circle or leaving like the player is lol. Just like that there is an extra layer to a non-faction.

    • @Blisterdude123
      @Blisterdude123 9 місяців тому +42

      I'd have joined them, given the option. The Companions are a bunch of preening, arrogant, self-serving, entitled assholes who talk a good game about honour, and glory, but are really just a bunch of lazy thugs and literal bloodthirsty monsters. I've never so intensely disliked a faction in an Elder Scrolls game...except maybe the Stormcloaks. Not even the Thieves Guild or Dark Brotherhood, who are like, supposed to be immoral. But the Companions are presented as 'good'.

    • @VoIacious
      @VoIacious 7 місяців тому +32

      @@MediumRareOpinionsGoes even further back than that. Remember Talon company from Fallout 3? A group that is insanely organized and has more locations under their grip than any single faction in the game and you’re never given any backstory to them beyond “Yeah they’re mercenaries that will take literally any contract”. Who formed it? Where are they based out of? How do they recruit new people? Where do they get the resources to provide all of their men with decent armor and weapons that are comparable to the BoS? These mfrs even had artillery set up in multiple areas, something the BoS never managed

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions 7 місяців тому

      @@VoIacious good points

  • @duanenaude5657
    @duanenaude5657 Рік тому +829

    52:09 "Morrowind and Oblivion may have both started their fighter's factions with a rat quest, but Skyrim finishes its fighter's faction with infinite rat quests."
    This really sums up Skyrim's quantity-over-quality ethos.

    • @nightcrwler1973
      @nightcrwler1973 Рік тому +2

      What's a rat quest?

    • @duanenaude5657
      @duanenaude5657 Рік тому +62

      @@nightcrwler1973 Have you seen Ratatouille? It's like that, but you're playing as Skinner

    • @jakespacepiratee3740
      @jakespacepiratee3740 Рік тому

      @@duanenaude5657 You get kidnapped by Rats and thrown in a Food Cellar?

    • @Rannos22
      @Rannos22 Рік тому +19

      @@nightcrwler1973 a quest where you're sent to deal with a rat problem
      In Morrowind it's killing them
      In oblivion it's saving them

    • @thedukeofdeathpt6262
      @thedukeofdeathpt6262 Рік тому +5

      @@nightcrwler1973 It's part of Skyrim's Radiant Quests System.

  • @blurqeqoherds
    @blurqeqoherds 9 місяців тому +64

    05:21:48
    God, this section about the nonexistence of Bethesda-like open world RPGs with actually good magic systems from other devs just absolutely broke my heart. Been feeling that pain since 2008. We need other devs to pick up the torch Bethsoft threw in the trash, just like with PDX interactive.

    • @joevile240
      @joevile240 9 місяців тому +3

      Dragon's Dogma came out 7 months after Skyrim and being a Sorcerer in that us awesome. Meteors, tornado, lightning whip, ice tendrils, ect. Can't wait for DD2.

    • @halcionjoy7
      @halcionjoy7 9 місяців тому +2

      @@joevile240 Did you see that there was new info about DD2? The new vocation looks fun.

    • @joevile240
      @joevile240 9 місяців тому +1

      @@halcionjoy7 Trickster looked neat. But I'm probably going back to Magick Archer.

    • @halcionjoy7
      @halcionjoy7 9 місяців тому +1

      @@joevile240 I wasn't talking about the Trickster. They revealed a new one called the Warfarer. Can use every weapon, but has poor stat growths.

    • @joevile240
      @joevile240 9 місяців тому +2

      @@halcionjoy7 Oooo, need to check that out.

  • @erebys21
    @erebys21 Рік тому +676

    Ya know what would've been an interesting climax of the college of winterhold questline? Using magic to raise the collapsed parts of winterhold from the sea, which opens up another side quest (or side questline) where you help rebuild winterhold.

    • @palerider2132
      @palerider2132 Рік тому +70

      Honestly, that's a cool idea, imagine if it gave you boons like a farm where what alchemy resources you cultivate give you like x4 the normal amount, so plucking a 1 nirnroot gives you 4, and so on.

    • @triforceofpowa
      @triforceofpowa Рік тому +35

      I have thought about that too. Well rebuilding Winter hold and gaining the respect of the people that live there. It would make sense to have a quest like that, considering the damage the College did to the village.

    • @_zigger_
      @_zigger_ Рік тому +38

      One word: consoles

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +31

      @@_zigger_ At the very mention, several aristocratic types guffaw in disgust and one lady faints.

    • @ScibbieGames
      @ScibbieGames Рік тому +20

      Considering they even had to cut content from Rorikstead, I don't think this would've made the cut lmao

  • @josiahpaulthompson
    @josiahpaulthompson 2 роки тому +116

    Patrician, I have watched your Morrowind analysis just about ~ 10 times in full. There was a time of my life where I was sick for a prolonged period of time, and your explanations and reviews partially helped me coast through a hard time, because it transported me back to a much better time. Thanks for all of your work and passion. Wealth beyond measure, Outlander.

  • @That_One_Xatu
    @That_One_Xatu Рік тому +333

    2:40:00 This part of my recent playthrough of Skyrim was something. When Karlia drank the invisibility potion, she had fire arrows (from the Anniversary edition) on her back. Karlia became invisible as usual, but you could clearly see her exact location because the arrows emitted a particle effect. Truly a Skyrim moment.

    • @isumkitchens5329
      @isumkitchens5329 Рік тому +1

      I also bought the anniversary edition. It was a $20 upgrade and I both don't regret it and also feel bad as I've not been into Skyrim enough to really make use of that purchase.
      But what I did play was fun and absolutely busted when enemies would spawn with the enchanted arrows and different variations of armors/weapons. They would absolutely fuck me up with those arrows, and they made me understand the utility of being a "bow boi" even as a heavy mage main. Great purchase if you love games that make you mad af with unfairness. Just play legendary through to adept, whatever is comfiest for having a fun time and being able to progress. That's what I do, I give myself 5 lives and then I go down a difficulty *per big fight* so dragons ain't shit as long as I don't get cutscene one shot and same with fucken bandits.
      That's another thing that pissed me off playing Skyrim anytime, cinematic kills shouldn't be allowed by enemies bc they are goofed and don't really consider armor values leading to you being one shot.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Рік тому

      @@isumkitchens5329 yeeeaaah, the creation club crap genuinely makes the game worse, your quest log will be a mess, probably permanently since a lot of the quests have a tendency to break.

  • @danikisikan9821
    @danikisikan9821 9 місяців тому +32

    11:17
    I just wanna highlight that during the cart sequence, you still haven't made your character, so it would be either very immersion breaking to have the player see them as another character, only to have to morph into whatever character you wish minutes later.

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 6 місяців тому +2

      It's because Ralof is actually talking to the player. That's why you can't respond except with gestures. That's why Doki Doki Literature wholesale copied Skyrim's formula with the character Monika.

  • @heikothedwarf
    @heikothedwarf Рік тому +746

    I remember being confused by the charcoal/paper thing in the Thieves Guild quest because it was so out of character for the rest of the game. Skyrim had never asked me to solve a puzzle, so I was absolutely stuck when it suddenly dropped a vague hint instead of a clear quest marker. (and of course I couldn't be completely sure it wasn't just a bug)

    • @z0mbyz624
      @z0mbyz624 Рік тому +150

      Same, I legit considered that skyrim design was slowly rotting my brain. I usually pretty fast on picking those things up

    • @ghastlyanarchy1720
      @ghastlyanarchy1720 Рік тому +27

      Well that "puzzle" in particular is very in line with thieves in general, getting information when you can't take the book or slab itself.

    • @CrawDad669
      @CrawDad669 Рік тому +19

      What about that bigger Dwemer sphere to charge the lexicon or whatever. That thing was kinda confusing, at least it was 11 years ago as a young kid

    • @quelquefois6754
      @quelquefois6754 Рік тому +22

      I bet someone at Bethesda genuinely forgot to put that quest marker in, or a bug prevented it appearing in the game and nobody at Bethesda has fixed it since.
      There are so few examples of a puzzle like this one (albeit extremely simple) in this entire game! It's bizarre. It's a shame the puzzles in these games are withering away.

    • @TheRadioactiveMaster
      @TheRadioactiveMaster Рік тому +43

      @@ghastlyanarchy1720 Yeah, but it was out of character for the GAME maybe not the guild. It's completely random and out of place imo

  • @andriypredmyrskyy7791
    @andriypredmyrskyy7791 2 роки тому +413

    As a mage who morphed into a sneak mage, I feel heard.
    I wanted to keep using magic, but it's not like mages were given a lot of choices.

    • @notsae66
      @notsae66 2 роки тому +84

      I went through the entire transformation arc of starting off as a proud and upright mage, to becoming a stealth mage, to using a conjured bow to be technically still a mage while acting as a full blown stealth archer. It was harrowing.

    • @weistber9582
      @weistber9582 2 роки тому +82

      @@notsae66 The most fun way to play mage, is to become a stealth archer. Ladies and Gentlemen, Skyrim.

    • @peytongonavy
      @peytongonavy 2 роки тому +53

      All roads lead to stealth archery.

    • @heszedjim9699
      @heszedjim9699 2 роки тому +19

      Jesus i played morrowing recently and the vast difference in magic is absolutely embarrassing for skyrim

    • @Rhodair
      @Rhodair 2 роки тому +11

      @@heszedjim9699 oh man, the spellmaking in Morrowind had me hooked for so long

  • @TheOneBearded
    @TheOneBearded 2 роки тому +156

    Not all heroes wear Colovian Fur Helms. Congrats on getting it done, Patrician.

  • @SirLightfire
    @SirLightfire 4 місяці тому +14

    Listening to this a second (or third) time
    I'm actually writing down notes about game and magic system design.
    I want to make my own game at some point, and these videos are invaluable research and feedback

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 4 місяці тому

      Same.

    • @ProjectRedfoot
      @ProjectRedfoot 3 місяці тому

      ​@baronvonbeandip YO, put aliens in your game! Aliens are *DOPE!* or like, GIANT scorpions! 😮 lol idk.
      Good luck on the game, though, really

  • @ZorotheGallade
    @ZorotheGallade Рік тому +293

    The Aventus Aretino problem could have been solved by just having the rumor be "Hey, did you hear about that kid who ran away from that otphanage? Wonder where he went", making it possible that by the time you find him he had just begun performing the Black Sacrament. But I guess they had to dangle that Dark Brotherhood story right in front of the players' face to slap them with it.

    • @tw0crows74
      @tw0crows74 Рік тому +13

      And they got way worse at doing that in Fallout 4, start you in the corner of the map with only 1 direction then make it impossible to miss dogmeat, you felt like you earned him in FO3, bethesda are getting worse at rewarding the player for simply buying a game from them.

    • @faith9505
      @faith9505 Рік тому

      The Way We Look at Things
      You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times.
      -2 Timothy 3:1
      Someone said, “I believe in Christianity as I believe that the Sun has risen, not only because I see it, but because by it I see everything else.
      A Christian worldview will affect the way that we see everything. And why is this important? Because we are living in the last days. Jesus Christ is coming back again. And if ever there was a time when we need to know our Bibles and have a close walk with Christ, the time is now.
      Describing the end times, the apostle Paul said, “In the last days there will be very difficult times. For people will love only themselves and their money. They will be boastful and proud, scoffing at God, disobedient to their parents, and ungrateful. They will consider nothing sacred. They will be unloving and unforgiving; they will slander others and have no self-control”
      (2 Timothy 3:1-3)
      Paul went on to say, “They will be cruel and hate what is good. They will betray their friends, be reckless, be puffed up with pride, and love pleasure rather than God. They will act religious, but they will reject the power that could make them godly”
      (verses 3-5)
      Is that not an accurate assessment of the times in which we are living? The United States has never been more spiritual yet more immoral. We throw the word spiritual around a lot. But do we know what it means?
      We live in an age when we can write our own apps and customize our home screens. We can keep the stuff we like and throw out the things we don’t. And we carry that thinking into other aspects of our lives. The result is something called moral relativism.
      Moral relativism is the belief that there are no absolutes. There is no right or wrong. Moral relativism teaches that we are all products of the evolutionary process and not made by a Creator God. There is no devil. There is no good or evil. And there is no plan or purpose for our lives.
      Moral relativism also teaches that we are all basically good, and if we happen to go bad, then it’s because we’re simply products of our environment. It teaches that we make our own truth.
      For instance, if you believe in a God of love, forgiveness, and mercy, you can keep that. But if you’re offended by the biblical teaching of a God of holiness, righteousness, and judgment, you can delete that. It works out perfectly. Or so it seems.
      Moral relativism may sound fine in theory. But what if we were to put it into practice? Will a god of our own making be able to save us in the final day? Of course not.
      A biblical worldview says there is a God as revealed in the Bible, and the Bible alone is the authority and source of that belief. It is not what we feel or what is popular, acceptable, or perceived as cool. It is what the Bible says.

    • @imtoogoodatpvp1252
      @imtoogoodatpvp1252 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tw0crows74That’s wild because I never found him in either games

    • @ZaleraArkanus666
      @ZaleraArkanus666 11 місяців тому

      ​@@faith9505And Christians wonder why they are hated. Stop spamming your bullshit on videos that have nothing to do with your religion.

    • @Andy-qf1kc
      @Andy-qf1kc 10 місяців тому

      ​@imtoogoodatpvp1252 you missed the dog in fallout 4 that is in red rocket truck stop the second place you visit after the leaving the vault.

  • @lostzephyr2191
    @lostzephyr2191 Рік тому +332

    I've never even played any Elder Scrolls games, I'm just using this to try to get through my shifts stocking shelves so I don't go crazy from the monotony. It's a lot easier when you have a huge piece of content like this.

    • @anthonyvillella9796
      @anthonyvillella9796 Рік тому +9

      That’s fucking amazing lmao

    • @Draconis00788
      @Draconis00788 Рік тому +10

      Yo! Another one like me! I do the same thing lol. Joseph Anderson has also been a godsend

    • @aloaloings5596
      @aloaloings5596 Рік тому +8

      There’s literally one million podcasts in the world

    • @snuggie1849
      @snuggie1849 Рік тому +3

      You should play them, they are awesome but buggy

    • @CaseyWeaver22
      @CaseyWeaver22 Рік тому +3

      Play Skyrim!!

  • @22788ocheeva
    @22788ocheeva 2 роки тому +128

    His wisdom is legendary, his timing Impeccable. These may very well be the finest 20 hours of our lives

  • @check_karma8549
    @check_karma8549 2 місяці тому +4

    A nice bite sized video, glad it was kept short and straight to the point.

  • @fran13r
    @fran13r Рік тому +149

    It's ungodly impressive how a 9 hour video can get a million views in a month, I'm already 1 hour in and it feels like only 10 minutes have passed. I mean all of this as a compliment.

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Рік тому

      It's not often though of but people tend to go to longer vids cause they can return and rewatch parts and put more faith in longer vids cause well they gotta have it that long for a reason right?

    • @fran13r
      @fran13r Рік тому +6

      @@TheReZisTLust True, it's also less work to let one play while you're doing work and you don't have to worry for what's coming next.

    • @gm2407
      @gm2407 Рік тому +3

      I prefer long videos that have something to say, as you can listen for ages with little imput until you feel the need to comment and interact; over short videos that throw out little content and require you to search for something else, or that you have to watch 3 times before finishing your comment.

    • @KingHenselt
      @KingHenselt Рік тому

      Я люблю Максимум полчаса , ну может один час , 9 часов это смотреть в несколько заходов , и потом уже забываешь что было и забрасываешь

    • @JJ-ze6vb
      @JJ-ze6vb Рік тому +3

      That’s because his arguments are so meandering and without narrative consequences. It’s like a 10th grader who hasn’t read the book: his report is kinda pointless, full of repetitions and dead ends.

  • @AccordYeen
    @AccordYeen Рік тому +269

    The companions are not the fighters guild, they are the werewolf guild. You don't start the companions questline unless you want to be a werewolf. It's just that the game never actual tells you that beforehand. It's entirely meta-knowledge. Oh, but accepting and completing a contract-killing doesn't necessarily mean you're okay with the contract-killer guild, so we'll include the option to destroy that guild after you complete your first contract-killing. But just this once.

    • @L3monsta
      @L3monsta Рік тому +19

      The problem then (apart from the whole meta-knowledge thing) is that there's otherwise no fighters guild.

    • @breezyillo2101
      @breezyillo2101 Рік тому +58

      @@L3monsta They're being mostly facetious with this comment. They know this.

  • @pepeepupoo
    @pepeepupoo 5 місяців тому +6

    This is my 3rd time listening to this little retrospective. You have a really good style, I wish you would make long form content though

  • @Sines314
    @Sines314 Рік тому +228

    I think the reason so few people mention how you're not given the option to not become a werewolf, is because they knew the game had crappy stories, and just being railroaded into the decision was just something they were already prepared to go along with.
    It's not that people were too stupid to notice. It's that people were too jaded to care. "This plot line makes me become a werewolf? Well, alright I guess. I'm sure I'll have the option to cure it down the line because Skyrim never makes you commit to your choices."

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +37

      Too true. It's like knowing the GM won't actually kill off your character so you lose all investment in the diegesis.

    • @MrSpartan993
      @MrSpartan993 11 місяців тому +8

      This!👆

  • @IDSearcher
    @IDSearcher 2 роки тому +150

    5:34:39 You getting scared by Ancano appearing behind you and you slowly backing off was a strangely cute piece of storytelling.

    • @janefkrbtt
      @janefkrbtt 2 роки тому +28

      Some of the gameplay clips are downright hilarious and just pass by silently

    • @evak5673
      @evak5673 7 місяців тому +1

      Or when he tries to slap Mirabelle awake

  • @ARTIK_29
    @ARTIK_29 2 роки тому +54

    its impressive and enviable how you not only have the determination to make a video this long but also say *something* besides the play by play of every quest in the game

  • @damdaley8092
    @damdaley8092 14 днів тому +1

    You blew my expectations out of the water with this video even including why your Dunmer character joined the Stormcloaks.

  • @ArchasTL
    @ArchasTL Рік тому +275

    Regarding the conversation about Ulfric as a "Stormcloak asset": my interpretation upon discovering this dossier wasn't that Ulfric was a ally, former or otherwise, of the Thalmor. Rather, his existence is useful to the Thalmor, and while Ulfric's goals are separate from whatever the Aldmeri Dominion might be pursuing, the manner in which he is attempting to achieve those goals is very convenient for Thalmor purposes. Not a direct agent, but still a pawn.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +31

      But in the same times it is saying that they don't want a Stormcloak victory, so I think they are really just for a prolonged conflict and nothing else. Basicly Ulfric is usefull if he couldn't win or too strong to lose, if the balance broken the Thalmor is in a bad situation.

    • @ArchasTL
      @ArchasTL Рік тому +19

      @@reactiondavant-garde3391 Right, but as long as that balance isn't broken (and before the Last Dragonborn shows up, there's no sign that it will be), Ulfric simply being alive helps the Thalmor out.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +2

      @@ArchasTL Yes, I agree.

    • @kommandantwunder6785
      @kommandantwunder6785 Рік тому +48

      I am actually surprised Pat never guessed that out. That's the first thing that comes up in mind when you read "an asset". Because that takes like three seconds of logical conclusions to get to the point you've made. Pat sometimes is so bad it's just not even funny.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +15

      @@kommandantwunder6785 I mean Patrician made this point just doesn't made in this form, when he say that the unresolved Civil War is good for the Thalmor he makeing this exact point.

  • @ThirdXavier
    @ThirdXavier Рік тому +444

    The mod "Serana Dialog Add-on" gives her dialog after the Companions werewolf bit where she calls them all terrible people for hazing you into a daedric ritual with Hircine and then angrily refuses to take part in some of the other quests and waits outside. Of course makes sense for her character to be angry seeing because of how she became a vampire.
    Unfortunately the mod still has to work within the confines of Skyrim's vanilla quests so she doesn't get to the point where she gets so mad she leaves, but I thought it was nice seeing that some mod authors agree with you about that moment being nonsensical in-story.

    • @satanamogila9251
      @satanamogila9251 Рік тому +3

      Is it voiced?

    • @zoppletee5400
      @zoppletee5400 Рік тому +2

      ​@@satanamogila9251yes

    • @lillycline1414
      @lillycline1414 Рік тому +47

      Honestly serana dialogue addon actively makes her character worse and that's saying something as she's an awful character to begin with

    • @satanamogila9251
      @satanamogila9251 Рік тому +19

      @@lillycline1414 based

    • @NotLordAsshat
      @NotLordAsshat Рік тому +20

      ​@@lillycline1414 I enjoyed her character from what I remember, but I really don't like how the mod devolves into full on fan fiction where she gets way too obsessed with the player character. Also her not marrying the player character was a choice by the writers that I feel was a correct one to fit her character.

  • @thewal1ofsleep
    @thewal1ofsleep 2 роки тому +162

    One thing I found interesting is that if you equip the "marry me" amulet after completing the companions story, Aela will express interest, but if you cure your lycanthropy first, she won't be and also makes no comment about you having cured it, as far as I know. However, if you initiate the marriage quest with her and then go back and cure lycanthropy, she is fine with it (but makes no comment about it, of course).

    • @Hobobatman1000
      @Hobobatman1000 2 роки тому +28

      You just know

    • @CraftyChicken91
      @CraftyChicken91 2 роки тому +9

      @@Hobobatman1000 lmao

    • @johnnymcgeez5647
      @johnnymcgeez5647 Рік тому +5

      Well you wouldnt be so glad to know that Aela actually wants to go into Hircine's plane because her true love is supposedly there. She will never trully love you if mary her.

  • @KronkusDonkus
    @KronkusDonkus 4 місяці тому +2

    I know it's been a year but listening to these have been helpful getting through the night shift. THANKS FOR YOUR WORK

  • @MegaDeathRay10
    @MegaDeathRay10 2 роки тому +195

    Can't wait, this is gonna be so good! The creation club section alone should be quite entertaining

    • @danielcook8480
      @danielcook8480 2 роки тому +4

      Cool ideas poorly implemented that Bethesda could of easily improved without voice acting .

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty 2 роки тому +5

      @@danielcook8480 I swear if I hear one more "it's all in this note" I'm going on a Skyrim genocide run.
      Ghosts of the Tribunal felt like such a bunch of slaps in the face with how it was implemented VS the potential it had-- Old Temple dissidents still clinging to the Tribunal, trying to smuggle old religious artifacts out of Vvardenfell taking that "of course Almalexia isn't dead" narrative and spinning it into "it's the Nerevarine's fault she couldn't fight Mehrunes Dagon and save Morrowind from the Oblivion Crisis and the Argonian Invasion and the Red Year!!!"...
      And they turned it into just "we have Tribunal at home" >:(
      (Could even have justified the matriarch speaking through notes through like. a vow of silence she's held ever since the High Chapel of Mournhold was "desecrated"...)

  • @acehughj4527
    @acehughj4527 2 роки тому +115

    Man, his rant about the companions really resonated. I had the exact same experience as someone who played these games on release and felt massively insulted by the fact that the game just locked out if we refused. The companions, the group of honourable warrior tradition following the original companions that paved the northern blood of men to forever more stay in Tamriel - that in order to progress you have to damn yourself forevermore to Hircine and away from Sovngarde - the fact that the only way to become a member of the circle you have to take it is...
    I'm glad Patrician even called out the general community reaction because yes, Bethesda was right. Its only recently when people began being critical about this questline across the many discussions and videos about Skyrim.
    Feels like a weight lifted. Glad I put notifications for this video.

    • @acehughj4527
      @acehughj4527 2 роки тому +16

      God damn. @PatricianTV my man, I know you're unlikely to see this with how popular these videos are becoming but I have to still say.. your take on magic in Skyrim and the general reviewer take on it is.. as a guy who started on daggerfall precisely because I loved the idea of a game where I can use magic to do anything from opening locks to teleporting - and the general take of how the most terrifying enemies of the elder Scrolls universe are literally just powerful mages (Jagar fucking THARN WAS JUST A STRONG MAGE AND HES A GOD DAMN FINAL BOSS).
      You saying all this about the utter bullshit of balancing and the grindiness of possibilities on what magic is in Skyrim is so.. just so liberating. I and probably many others watching resonate with this.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 2 роки тому +3

      Entirly agree, I really don't like how they made so little amount quest for the different guilds and they didn't even made alternatives for them. I mean why not make a werewolf "guild" who are in war with the companion? I know because for some reasen you have to be able complite any questline in one character.

    • @leewilson852
      @leewilson852 2 роки тому

      I agree with this.
      I have my own head cannon which is that my character is young and dumb if i start with companions 🤣 then get cured asap

    • @ISesseriI
      @ISesseriI 2 роки тому +6

      Its almost eerie how pat described something so similar to what happened to me in Skyrim. I was so excited for the game after I played so much oblivion as a child in like 2009 (I played the ps3 goty version), and I finished the companions quest line and literally stopped playing the game 11 hours in.

    • @AspiringDevil
      @AspiringDevil 2 роки тому +2

      Same it was baffling.
      I still seriously don't understand what the intention was.

  • @wolframsteindl2712
    @wolframsteindl2712 2 роки тому +139

    Apparently the Silver Hand is actually a splinter group of the Companions, who left the guild after the Companions started becoming werewolfs, in protest of this practice.
    I honestly find it such a missed opportunity to not give the player the chance to join them instead if they didn't want to become a werewolf.

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage Рік тому +55

      That would have required more work.

    • @leonrussell9607
      @leonrussell9607 Рік тому +38

      Thats just a fan theory

    • @fort809
      @fort809 Рік тому +18

      These are the same people who made fallout 3 and fallout 4, basic competence is asking too much

  • @tsunderemerc2963
    @tsunderemerc2963 3 місяці тому +39

    Companions: "Its so fucked up how Kodlak can't go to Sovengarde because of his beast blood"
    Also Companions: "Become a werewolf or leave"

  • @ihavenomouthandimusttype9729
    @ihavenomouthandimusttype9729 Рік тому +151

    4:49:58 If you do this quest before talking to Jarl Baalgruuf about the dragon, you obtain the dagger only for the Alteration guy to go: “Oh, we need a live dragon for this quest but they went extinct so...”
    And that ladies and gents is why I never got the highest alteration spell.

  • @comfylung
    @comfylung Рік тому +84

    3:25:00 "Does [Bethesda] realize that you don't generally be enrolled in a college to visit its library?" Well, they consulted the University of Maryland when it came to the topography of Oblivion (i.e. soil, erosion) without enrolling, so someone must have had an inkling...

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +1

      lol gottem

    • @frauleinhohenzollern
      @frauleinhohenzollern 2 місяці тому

      Well, do the institutions in a made up world need to comply with the rules of our institutions in real life? What a stupid point to make.....

    • @frauleinhohenzollern
      @frauleinhohenzollern 2 місяці тому +1

      And no, BTW they really didn't. All that crap about soil topography, was shown right before they showed the guy randomly placing rocks and hills wherever they felt they looked nice. It's just corporate marketing bullshit you people keep falling for.

  • @reidrobinson9724
    @reidrobinson9724 2 роки тому +75

    As a Patron, I’ve seen the full video(s). I just wanted to comment to say that I really appreciate the hard work Pat has put into making these videos for his audience. Videogame subjectivists will say that these are unnecessary, but deep-dive analyses like this one are an important part of the gaming sphere.

    • @AmbrosiusIII
      @AmbrosiusIII 2 роки тому +2

      don't get me wrong i love absurdly long deep dives but when you have 3 hours of video on the College of Winterhold you should probably consider cutting your script way down. more is not always more

    • @pwh1981
      @pwh1981 2 роки тому +9

      @@AmbrosiusIII In the College section, he does talk about many other points outside of the College, like the magic system itself, which is why the section is over two hours long. Many of the sections are like this.

    • @frauleinhohenzollern
      @frauleinhohenzollern 2 місяці тому

      Yeah yeah yeah, whatever, just keep sending money

  • @sayansengupta5791
    @sayansengupta5791 5 місяців тому +1

    Something about seeing "A Quick Retrospective" for a 9 hour video that is just part 1 of a two part series, for some reason fills my heart with immeasurable amount of joy.

  • @Alexinnj
    @Alexinnj Рік тому +160

    I hated the werewolf thing too. Especially after old kodlack told me how much he regretted it. I didn't think my wood elf wanted to be a part of such a weird ritual lol

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped Рік тому +11

      I remember when I first played Skyrim I didn't want to do it. I left and did a bunch of other stuff, assuming something would happen to progress the storyline without me becoming a werewolf, only to swing by much later confused that everyone was still standing around like dead-eyed dolls waiting for me to continue the quest. I still didn't and remember with the "Elder Scrolls Awe" having worn off now being quite annoyed that the fighters guild in Skyrim was such railroaded shite... It's my first playthrough, I would like to go natural the first time, but they throw werewolves in your face so brazenly and early that it was really off putting.
      I finally did do the Companions questline in my second playthrough, but I do remember my initial first reaction was that of annoyance and disappointment.

    • @Naxhus2
      @Naxhus2 Рік тому +7

      A wood elf does seem to be the most apt race to tie themselves to Hircine though. In hindsight, I'm surprised that none of the Circle were wood elves.

    • @Daisy-qe7nd
      @Daisy-qe7nd Рік тому +9

      @@Naxhus2silly lore thing here, but wood elves actually have a specific cultural/religious taboo against becoming werewolves/changing their form! It’s a remnant from the wild hunt (I think that’s what it was called, where wood elves forms’ changed constantly), with the taboo being established after Y’ffre stabilized them into what we know as bosmer.

    • @naunau311
      @naunau311 Рік тому +5

      Yeah, wood elves don't need to turn into giant wolves to eat people.

  • @alkimondoto4322
    @alkimondoto4322 Рік тому +212

    When discussing magic it's a real shame they decided to remove silence as a spell. Not only for the reason you mentioned but also because they could make silence prevent use of the thuum or even dragon shouts, making it both a powerful tool as well as another thing to watch out for.

    • @LoftOfTheUniverse
      @LoftOfTheUniverse Рік тому +44

      They probably realized that and removed it because they didn't want anything to get in the way of DRAGON.

    • @Nathan-zw7nq
      @Nathan-zw7nq 11 місяців тому +24

      @@LoftOfTheUniversewell they took the easy way. They could have made different tiers of Silence and make it so dragons require the Master Level Silence to spell to silence. But no, Bethesda is lazy

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip 11 місяців тому +33

      ​@@Nathan-zw7nq"well they took the easy way"
      Skyrim summarized.

    • @Xpwnxage
      @Xpwnxage 9 місяців тому +13

      ​@@baronvonbeandip Bethesda summarized.

  • @baronvonbeandip
    @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +118

    I think Skyrim is a testament to the potential of Elder Scrolls. It offers just enough of an idea, whether that be lore, environment, or mechanics, to draw you in but not enough once you try it to keep you hooked.
    That's probably why the modding community is pretty consistent with output to this day; the idea proposed by the systems and environments is just appealing enough for people to change it and the lore and story execution is just barely enticing enough to warrant people talking about it and cataloguing it.

    • @MediumRareOpinions
      @MediumRareOpinions 9 місяців тому +3

      I want to say thats the same with Bethesdas Fallout games.

    • @Dufffaaa93
      @Dufffaaa93 7 місяців тому +1

      Speak in your name.
      "It kept me hooked" for hours as well as thousands of different players

    • @verisimuli
      @verisimuli 6 місяців тому +3

      ​@@Dufffaaa93Only thousands? Only hours? Millions of people own Skyrim. That's an awful retention rate. Good games that hook you are played by hundreds of thousands, for days' worth of time, not just hours. And guess what? Most people who do that with Skyrim are playing it modded.

  • @cooker54
    @cooker54 5 місяців тому +7

    Loving this video so far, but I did wanna say at around 7:16:00 that there is actually evidence of Hert and Hern killing travelers, they have a small butchery shed where if I can remember correctly, there's normal animal corpses, a troll skull, and also a human skull. I wanna say it was bloody too but I'd have to go back to look honestly. Nitpick aside I really do love this video, and as someone who's favorite run of the game was a pure mage I feel incredibly validated by your rant on magick in Skyrim lol. I had fun in vanilla with it but kinda like you I had more fun as a mage once I started exploiting. I did the jail armor exploit to equip multiple sets of armor and enchanted gear to decrease all my magicka costs to 0, which was incredibly fun once I got the master level lightning spell since I could down dragons so quickly with it. Love your video though ! Can't wait to watch the second part once I finish this behemoth of a video.

  • @planescaped
    @planescaped Рік тому +465

    The rant about how garbage pure magic builds are in Skyrim was nice to hear.
    They're not just badly balanced, they're very poorly designed. It was so obvious they didn't expect people to not use a melee weapon of some kind even as a mage.

    • @UsingGorillaLogic
      @UsingGorillaLogic Рік тому +14

      The only exception is using a cloak spell then using invisibility so you slowwwwwwwly damage everything but they can't see you so they just stand there slowly dying.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +39

      @@UsingGorillaLogic The problem that you have to chees the game with magic to not be too weak.

    • @UsingGorillaLogic
      @UsingGorillaLogic Рік тому +10

      @@reactiondavant-garde3391 which is why I said slowwwwwwwly because it was me agreeing magic sucks.

    • @reactiondavant-garde3391
      @reactiondavant-garde3391 Рік тому +1

      @@UsingGorillaLogic It i not about being fast, the problem that you have to chees it, if it was fast it would be bad. As Patricion said, the magic too weak or too strong nothing in between.

    • @gewuerzwanze5627
      @gewuerzwanze5627 Рік тому +16

      The only time i had fun with a pure mage build was when i installed mods that
      -increased the number of equippable rings
      - added spells that enabled me to turn full soulstones into empty ones of the next higher tier
      - changed charging spell animations
      - had fully functional dragon wings.
      - added time dilation spells.
      And changed that wards worked like shields in addition to reducing magic damage.

  • @calmkat9032
    @calmkat9032 Рік тому +262

    I'd never heard that interview where the guy says "I knew players would mod stealth in like a week after release." I always thought leaning on modders was an open secret, not something they talk about openly. Really hope they don't think that for Starfield, considering how new everything is.

    • @wile123456
      @wile123456 Рік тому +55

      They do think that for starfield but there is a reason they don't do these interviews and podcasts anymore. Everything needs Todd's PR blessing

    • @xtanagaming1017
      @xtanagaming1017 Рік тому +38

      They've already said that the reason there's hundreds of empty worlds in Starfield is so modders can use them

    • @spencercorpuz
      @spencercorpuz Рік тому +62

      This comment aged well hahaha

    • @neoqwerty
      @neoqwerty Рік тому +24

      @@xtanagaming1017 well that's _one_ way to avoid everyone complaining about the settlement builder. "Here's the Starfield CK, build it yourself."

    • @Arturhsmrogna
      @Arturhsmrogna Рік тому +25

      Ah this comment aged well I see

  • @CeaselessWatcher01
    @CeaselessWatcher01 Рік тому +240

    I've always hated when people say "it doesn't have to be realistic, its a fantasy game!". The ideas that skill increase leads to leveling increase makes logical sense. You get better at something, you get stronger. You work out at the gym and your stamina goes up. But the argument that "oh there's dragons and cat people, it doesn't have to be realistic" is very flawed. This world may not be realistic to our world, but it abides by the same basic rules of life. Like you said, people need to eat breathe and have shelter. Even with fantastical elements, there are still logical rules to how this universe works. I know this is basically the point you made in the video, but I am so glad to see someone else has this view as well. Thought I was going crazy with all of the people telling me that this game didn't have to be realistic. Also amazing video :)

    • @ianhandforth5672
      @ianhandforth5672 Рік тому +2

      so no bat man and robin lol,,its make believe like gta,,just enjoy,,

    • @baronvonbeandip
      @baronvonbeandip Рік тому +2

      It's about communication. If you share absolutely nothing with your audience, there is no way you can convey anything. Having more 'realism' piggybacks off our common language as humans. Having a certain button-layout uses the langauge gamers have formed.
      But you don't strictly need this (see Egoraptor's description of Megaman X) as long as you set stakes and make clear your intention as the designer. That allows you to do something like, say, tetris, katamari damacy, or many ludonarratively dissonant puzzle games.

    • @IssyMomentTTV
      @IssyMomentTTV Рік тому +12

      This! Suspension of disbelief is a big thing, and if you break that then people won't care about your story since it stops making sense.

    • @vladprus4019
      @vladprus4019 Рік тому +9

      What's ironic is that we even have "fantasy" as a genre is BECAUSE of realism.
      The whole point of literaly fantasy is to write about things that cannot exists, just like they could exists. To apply literaly realism (to some degree at least) to something that is impossible to happen in real world. This is the reason why we aren't talking much about fantasy genre before 19th and 20th century, only about fairy tales or legends or... just normal stories that has stuff that we today would think of as impossible, but people there did not consider them as such.
      Fantasy can only exists if you know something is impossible and you try to treat it in fiction as possible anyways, with all the consequences of that.
      Fantasy without a realism is (in worst case scenario) a description of a fever dream where everything can happen randomly without any logic, or (in best case scenario) a modern fairy tale in which things are happening, but consequences of them are not explored and events are either completly taken at the face value or a symbolizing of something outside the story.

    • @graylyhen9490
      @graylyhen9490 Рік тому +4

      It's been over a decade and people will stay claw for anything that makes Skyrim look bad. Old game good and quirky, new game bad and not realistic

  • @jasper_the_ghost
    @jasper_the_ghost Місяць тому +5

    That quote at an hour and thirteen is so funny XD
    “This rock sitting in the countryside tells a whole story. How did it get here??”

  • @wjpjr7854
    @wjpjr7854 Рік тому +211

    7:16:28 The vampires at Half-Moon Mill actually do have a shed full of butchered bodies behind the mill, implying they are eating travelers. If you don't kill them with the DB questline you can also use them as a source of timber when building your house in Falkreath.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 Рік тому +11

      It's a convenient place to gather wood when working on the Falkreach estate, as your other option is back in Riverwood and about the same distance on foot either way. I think they're also flagged as a Dawnguard target for their radiant questlines too.

    • @metrofloof1214
      @metrofloof1214 Рік тому +3

      ​@@gratuitouslurking8610 yeah they are took them out my last playthrough of Dawnguard.

    • @anon1963
      @anon1963 Рік тому +5

      Just dispose of them after you have bought wood

  • @zelex1456
    @zelex1456 2 роки тому +174

    Listening to this 20 hour 2 part epic about the blank canvas I've been putting mods on for years now really helps me get through delivering pizzas without wanting to drive off a cliff, thank you PatricianTV.

    • @SanteLiberatore
      @SanteLiberatore Рік тому +9

      I’m sorry you’re feeling down brother

    • @ianthe2131
      @ianthe2131 Рік тому +6

      Eyyyy fellow delivery driver listening on a shift

    • @zelex1456
      @zelex1456 Рік тому +3

      @@SanteLiberatore thank you brother

    • @zelex1456
      @zelex1456 Рік тому +1

      @@ianthe2131 ayyye he just like me fr

    • @Bluerock121
      @Bluerock121 Рік тому

      Dude come on. Skyrim is flawed but to call the base game a “blank canvas” is ridiculous. Like it or not a lot of work went into it, and there’s a shit ton to do

  • @DraphEnjoyer
    @DraphEnjoyer 2 роки тому +154

    Hard to react to stuff within a 9 hour video, but the fact that you also reacted the same way I did to the forced werewolf part of the Companions, gives me a feeling of comradery I never thought could be felt with someone I've never met.

    • @OK-wm6qr
      @OK-wm6qr 2 роки тому +6

      "Parasocial relationships are one-sided relationships, where one person extends emotional energy, interest and time, and the other party, the persona, is completely unaware of the other's existence. Parasocial relationships are most common with celebrities, organizations (such as sports teams) or television stars."

    • @planescaped
      @planescaped 2 роки тому +17

      @@OK-wm6qr Relax mom.

    • @gratuitouslurking8610
      @gratuitouslurking8610 Рік тому +4

      It is kinda funny how people who review skyrim doesn't seem to care much about the forced werewolfness but many Companion mods I've seen offer options to get around it.

    • @DraphEnjoyer
      @DraphEnjoyer Рік тому +6

      @@OK-wm6qr Normally id ignore snide snarky stuff like this but god forbid i leave a comment about a part of a video i agree with
      God forbid

  • @73DD13
    @73DD13 6 місяців тому +1

    Your elder scrolls essays are awesome, I appreciate the attention to detail and attempt to be fair to all opinions. They’re great to play in the background while I’m working and long enough that each time I listen I hear plenty of new stuff. Thanks for all the hard work :•)

  • @mohabexpert123
    @mohabexpert123 Рік тому +164

    7:06:32. Actually, in my 800 hours of Skyrim, I have run into Babette in the wild a single time after completing the whole quest line. She told me she had completed her contract and was out recruiting new members for the Dawnstar sanctuary. Only a single example but still

    • @MLBeaton
      @MLBeaton Рік тому +7

      First Ive heard of it… cool!

    • @Mr.Dinosalt
      @Mr.Dinosalt Рік тому +4

      Man, your comment having a timestamp from 7:06:32 makes me want to watch the whole thing. If you got there I can do too.
      Ps. Who is Babette? Probably will find out

    • @insanneous
      @insanneous Рік тому

      @@Mr.Dinosalt child vampire from the dark brotherhood

    • @papaskulls7945
      @papaskulls7945 Рік тому

      I remember having that encounter on my first play through while escorting Serana to Castle Volkihar. For a long while, I thought that particular encounter was added as part of the Dawnguard dlc.

  • @talynhastime9343
    @talynhastime9343 2 роки тому +302

    Explain to me why I’ll watch something like this with no hesitation, but the prospect of an audiobook or a two hour-long film always makes me do the “uuuugh do I really want to?” internal griping lol.

    • @rickmoreau2803
      @rickmoreau2803 2 роки тому +27

      Right, I still haven't watched the new batman movie because of how long it is. But here I am

    • @Technoko
      @Technoko Рік тому

      What's happening to you is that the attention economy has given you brain rot

    • @Vaguer_Weevil
      @Vaguer_Weevil Рік тому +52

      It might have something to do with sitting through a movie and afterwards thinking "Well that sucked" a few too many times. I find with videos you can stop watching whenever and return without losing anything, movies feel like a commitment. I mean who goes back to a movie they've half watched? They usually just move on to the next.

    • @TheFloodFourm
      @TheFloodFourm Рік тому +4

      Commitment.

    • @YeTism
      @YeTism Рік тому +6

      because this is more familiar. movies have stories and characters you need to learn about

  • @symphoricquoz3763
    @symphoricquoz3763 Рік тому +164

    On that note about spellcrafting, you can absolutely have magical moments that arise from being able to create your own "less mysterious" spells. My example is more to do with enchantments, because I only ever messed around with that, but spellcrafting has enough similarities that it's basically relevant enough:
    In Oblivion, I wanted to make the best two-handed mace I could possibly muster up, having specced into magic and two-handing respectively. In my head, I wanted the weapon itself to passively improve my capabilities, so as to let me upgrade my armour separately for different purposes. I spent ages tracking down materials (this was before I used the internet a whole bunch, my Xbox copy got a lot of love), and put a Fortify Strength attribute on my weapon. I thought it was a weapon-specific quirk that it said "Apply X for Y seconds", like "hit the enemy to activate your weapon", similar to elemental enchantments. After hours of inefficient, exciting work to make this Strong Glass Warhammer, I eagerly hit the next enemy I could find with it, and my damage output seemed to be lacking.
    I only realised a few moments later that I had just created a weapon that made the enemies I was bludgeoning to death, incredibly strong, enough to start one-shotting me as regular enemies. I was so peeved, at the time, but I look at that moment with complete fondness. If the game didn't have custom enchantments, I couldn't have had such a strong impression of weapon development. It's the worst, and best thing I've done in Oblivion. I can't believe that no-one had a similarly interesting experience with spellcrafting.

    • @adamriley9241
      @adamriley9241 Рік тому +38

      I made a paralysis spell that was set to self and not on touch... I imagine the bandits laughed before stabbing me through

    • @atransarcticfox
      @atransarcticfox Рік тому +4

      Fuck I need to play Oblivion don't I

    • @maxsync183
      @maxsync183 Рік тому +11

      Oh I have one, I made a fire spell that paralysed and burnt an npc but also healed them more than the damage it dealt. So they'd be laying there in burning agony, unable to move yet unable to die, forced to experience this torture for the maximum time spellcrafting allowed. I also added a bit of light as a way of making an example out of them for the other npcs. Look upon my horrifying light, see as your friend can do nothing but lay there in torment.

  • @WojteK_the_holy_ghost
    @WojteK_the_holy_ghost 9 місяців тому +9

    i am 5 hours in, i cleaned, i cooked, i smoked a joint... or several, and i wasn´t bored once. exelent short little video.