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@@JorgenPOE Yeah I just figured with recominators coming back, the new unique / special mods being crafted onto weapons, the implicit bases they showed off all kinda felt big crafty but yeah obvi not necro status.
The fact of being able to buy scarabs and selling your delving items in just a few clicks, is probably such a big speed up for making currency. I really think people underestimate how efficient we can actually farm now
I also think the ability to send NPC's to run maps, while we are delving can potentialy be a buff. We don't know if they can bring sulphite yet .... but if they can. It could be huge. And on top of this - melee skills are realy good in delve - and they were buffed this league.
Although people are saying the new chisels only drop from the Maven, that's just from the footage. It says nothing about Delve cities. We got shitloads of veiled scarabs and regular chisels from cities so I don't see why we should expect to not get the new chisels.
Exactly. It's not in the patch notes and they haven't told us where they drop or how rare they are at all. Schrodinger's cat situation until league drops.
I farmed 10 curiosities last league - it was probably my biggest money maker. I think I was just lucky finding that many cities because although I delved quite a bit I only Delved (as usual) to take a break from mapping. That saved my Delving because as Jorgen mentioned resonators pricing was terrible and fossil pricing was down a bit.
Great overview Jorgen!! I feel like as the chisels state Maven's chisel they'll be from invitations or maven itself, perhaps to get this more in line with the R/B alters.
My prediction about the currency exchange is that it will lower the price of EVERYTHING. We will earn less on everything, but at the same time everything will be cheaper. The reason for this is that there will now be more supply on the market. Face-to-face trade was a major impediment. There were many people who sometimes stopped selling their items out of sheer laziness. Now that it will be easier, there will be a greater incentive. Soon, there will be a great demand for these currencies on the market.
One thing I feel Is important to bring up, pack with energy now has a duration of 60s. The last couple league people would take pwe for free power and in tandem take the sulphite to azerite node. I see less people taking packed with energy this league
If I understand the new Opulent Fossil description correctly, the "More Drop modifiers" should work on Grasping Mail in order to target those Breach modifiers. This should make the opulent fossils somewhat valuable.
Haven't watched it yet, I think Aul's will be in higher demand due to reservation nerfs. Now I'll go watch, see if I can ever get a single prediction right.
Awesome thanks for the info, I'm only like 2ish seasons in, and I may try delve this league. Looking forward to your next video! Came here from BuffaloBaron :)
I did delve last league, not very hard but still got down to like ~230. I had a lot of fun and it was my second league. I recommend it if watching Jorden’s content intrigues you at all!
I got into Delve last league because of your videos. I don't even know if I care if it is super profitable. The feel of being down there is just different than anything else you can do in the game. Just gotta find the right melee build to start.
Hi jorgen, since last weekend im facing a weird bug where all the haunted remains nodes in delve dont spawn the last monster and i cant just finish it and go ahead. have you faced this or know if others have faced this and what could be the workaround to fix this? thanks!
so the name Opulent Fossil, plus GGG stating that MF was removed from uniques to be able to open it up on rare slots and make it easier for more builds to engage with makes me think it's gonna be MF related.
one thing about the currency exchange is that bulk pricing will probably no longer be a thing. Because the qol of bulk trading is built into the system now
Noice. Affliction was my first league. Didn’t play Necropolis as it looked meh but next league looks like it will cook. I’ll def be trying the shield crush league starter. Looking fwd to following along :)
I'm expecting price of things like fossils or oils etc... would drop since now that it's so much easier to buy/sell through currency exchange. Do you think that might be the case?
Not necessarily. That doesn't dictate supply or demand. If anything the supply may not be keep up to demand because of the volume of players that farm delve is quite limited
Thank you very much for another video. I follow your videos through automatic subtitles on UA-cam because I don't speak English, if possible in the new guide videos, can you add a summary of the strategy again in the description? This helps me a lot, as translated subtitles are sometimes confusing. This will be my second league in delve, I'm still a beginner but your channel helps me a lot, thank you very much.
the fastest way to farm curiosity now? I feel like the drop rate is non existant. How many ahuatotlis per hour do you get? at 250-350 with average build. Any tips to get more?
@@JorgenPOE well it's more about getting temples, i feel like i'm getting auls more, is this rng? Any secret tech to discover cities? I just tend to skip long encounters like azurite III ones.
Im still going delve again, but im targeting cities this time mainly for chisels and maps. My settlers will never run out they will be stocked to the brim :D
@2:15 yes!! Adorned is effectively been deleted from the game unless some people seek the perfect role..that is less than 2% of those who used it in this league
@@jamessunderlandseventh7410 imo it should've been reworked into something that only delvers benefit from but I guess devs wanted delvers to be able to rush all the sulphite nodes quickly, go new map and repeat until full stock of sulphite.
@@JorgenPOEfair chance of mapping supplies from map chests. Big demand for other fossils for armour crafting on the new bases too. It really depends what gold coin rates are like, I wanna get my settlement rolling so I can hire Steve.
I was wondering about this one? The following Scarabs can no longer be obtained: (...) Sulphite Scarab of Greed If there is no change to the atlas passives, it will take considerably longer to get sulphite. I have been a delve enjoyer for a while now and I hope it will be fine as always :)
For my curiosity what restored your hope in this video? No crafting league (not totally true) like 90% of leagues? Trade in game to eco... 10s to make a trade? The truth is Delve is highly nerfed, we still can make money but will be C Tier farming method. Just hope they will buff it next league (and i think they will).
@@antoinemeyer9464 what you just said is what everybody jumps to when they read the changes in the patch notes every league. I disagree, but we are all entitled to our own view
People are gonna do the 3 to 1 unique with low rolled adorned more now, chasing the perfect roll for the max res breakpoint. The price may very well increase because of that.
With simulacrum changes I expect many people to spam Simulacrums, which also prints out a ton of fossils so that could affect the fossil prices, thankfully the special node fossils and resonators cannot be obtained from it. I really hope one day they will make fossils delve exclusive, there was a time when legion farm was a meta where You got so much fossils from legion that Delve became the worst place to farm fossils and it made no sense for me
yep, perfect fossils are only 1 fossil and its not a crafting league like necropolis. So delve stands out as one of the strongest meta crafting mechanics as per anny other league.
I'm a pretty new player and haven't done much past the campaign and white maps and I'm hoping to dive into delve this league. I know you have delve guides but do you have anything for new players to show how to transition from the campaign into delving? I'm guessing you have to do some mapping before you get your delve econ started but that's just a guess. Maybe a video isn't needed here and it's just a simple answer to the question but anything you have would be great. I've always finished the campaign and felt lost and never have been able to enjoy a full league because I aimlessly do some maps without knowing how to get my gear sorted and how to get into endgame content and then quit shortly afterwards. This seems like it could be the last league before POE2 so I'm really going to try to give my all on this one. Cheers.
Friendship is expected to drop from Argus. So save up all those offerings that delve gives and blast lab room 1 on days Argus is there. It's boring but dead easy for any build that goes well in delve.
Everyone loves Steve! Dude is an absolute Beast! also, Steve will be back. He didn't run delve so that he could make profit on perfect fossils lol. He ran it for the challenge.
Delve already wasn't a profitable mechanic in comparison with the meta last league, you run it only for fun in the end of the day imo. Hopefully it will get a touch in the future
As said last night I disagree, I don't believe Delve is 'dead' but nerfed in terms of profits but I hope I'm wrong, as you know I love delving and love the delving community. End of the day its just an opinion and really completely out of our hands, if a meta build comes out with Aul amulet, auls go up, if people skip over adorn this league, curiousity goes down, If people think Delves dead, Delve items will be higher in demand. Truth is we wont know until were into 3.25.
Delve is fine if you look for a conservative strategy, its a guaranteed profit. But if you look at div/h then delve is on the bottom and its sucks very hard compared to other strats
@@JorgenPOE I'm not saying you don't make a mirror eventually,but you make it faster with other strategies ...ggg should make fossils delve only to bring some exclusivity to it....
People get too bent when you touch their currency gain. Its insane that people care so much about something that resets every 3ish months. I am happy if i make 20 divines in a league.
Well there will be some crafting, but not NEAR what there was last league. Last league was a pure crafting league. At least this league one can make some good amount of loot by doing the league mechanic, which wasn't the case last league. And with MF nerf and Barrel nerf the economy should be in much better shape this league compared to last.
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You're feeling like this is NOT going to be a crafting league? Is that what I was hearing?
@@ItsZenp it has crafting, but not like necropolis. So yes and no.
@@JorgenPOE Yeah I just figured with recominators coming back, the new unique / special mods being crafted onto weapons, the implicit bases they showed off all kinda felt big crafty but yeah obvi not necro status.
Watching steve go balls deep was the real 3.24 mechanic
dont forget to lick his boots
Shitstain will live on forever 🎉🎉🎉
I love how GGG gave a recognition to Shitstain Steve and they named an npc which you can hire as your highest lvl miner in the league - Steven Shitt 😂
When they brought up Steve I just laughed.
When did they bring him up?
Oh my bad. It was in the patch notes.
They even gave him a recognition as an NPC in the game. You can hire a miner name Steven Shitt and he is the highest lvl miner
@@JURITO1000that's amazing
@@JURITO1000 🤣🤣🤣 Fkn legend
The fact of being able to buy scarabs and selling your delving items in just a few clicks, is probably such a big speed up for making currency. I really think people underestimate how efficient we can actually farm now
I agree. People don't understand that that won't devalue things, it will make currency conversion more streamlined
I also think the ability to send NPC's to run maps, while we are delving can potentialy be a buff. We don't know if they can bring sulphite yet .... but if they can. It could be huge. And on top of this - melee skills are realy good in delve - and they were buffed this league.
rip Bill Paxton. Still one of my favorite movies of all time.
TLDR: Delve ain't dead, a lot of gear is still a lot easier to get from it (including curse application rings)
Absolutely
Although people are saying the new chisels only drop from the Maven, that's just from the footage. It says nothing about Delve cities. We got shitloads of veiled scarabs and regular chisels from cities so I don't see why we should expect to not get the new chisels.
Exactly. It's not in the patch notes and they haven't told us where they drop or how rare they are at all. Schrodinger's cat situation until league drops.
I farmed 10 curiosities last league - it was probably my biggest money maker. I think I was just lucky finding that many cities because although I delved quite a bit I only Delved (as usual) to take a break from mapping. That saved my Delving because as Jorgen mentioned resonators pricing was terrible and fossil pricing was down a bit.
Great overview Jorgen!! I feel like as the chisels state Maven's chisel they'll be from invitations or maven itself, perhaps to get this more in line with the R/B alters.
My prediction about the currency exchange is that it will lower the price of EVERYTHING.
We will earn less on everything, but at the same time everything will be cheaper. The reason for this is that there will now be more supply on the market. Face-to-face trade was a major impediment. There were many people who sometimes stopped selling their items out of sheer laziness. Now that it will be easier, there will be a greater incentive. Soon, there will be a great demand for these currencies on the market.
Only stackable items are sold. There's still going to be that guy with a tabula for 1c who ignores you.
@@rubikmonat6589 But if this system works and players like it, they can certainly implement a full exchange in the future
Also, we might get a ton out of shipments so less needs to buy from the market. Heck, even upgrading them 3:1 might be 'profitable' sometimes...
Now we have automated map-runners, next we need the same for delve 😂
Ye this :D
The things we do not know is if map runners will use our own atlas or not. I mean, will they gather sulphite for us? Or only items?
@@ulruc who knows, guess we’ll find out soon (TM).
One thing I feel Is important to bring up, pack with energy now has a duration of 60s. The last couple league people would take pwe for free power and in tandem take the sulphite to azerite node. I see less people taking packed with energy this league
If I understand the new Opulent Fossil description correctly, the "More Drop modifiers" should work on Grasping Mail in order to target those Breach modifiers. This should make the opulent fossils somewhat valuable.
If you're on the money there, it should be awesome :)
Haven't watched it yet, I think Aul's will be in higher demand due to reservation nerfs.
Now I'll go watch, see if I can ever get a single prediction right.
Hadn't not thought about the new chisels in delve, I think that's a valuable insight.
Well done bub.
🤣 fckng Steve, the legend
They gotta patch the game to slow that man down
Awesome thanks for the info, I'm only like 2ish seasons in, and I may try delve this league. Looking forward to your next video!
Came here from BuffaloBaron :)
Awesome! Yeah, I'm working on my delve guide tonight. Should be up just after midnight
I did delve last league, not very hard but still got down to like ~230. I had a lot of fun and it was my second league. I recommend it if watching Jorden’s content intrigues you at all!
@@TenikoGames awesome thanks!! I'm excited
I got into Delve last league because of your videos. I don't even know if I care if it is super profitable. The feel of being down there is just different than anything else you can do in the game. Just gotta find the right melee build to start.
Hi jorgen, since last weekend im facing a weird bug where all the haunted remains nodes in delve dont spawn the last monster and i cant just finish it and go ahead. have you faced this or know if others have faced this and what could be the workaround to fix this? thanks!
Not sure, could just be a glitch that they'll patch out on Saturday
@@JorgenPOE welp. its really frustrating it just started happening out of nowhere. hoping gets resolved with the new update! thanks!
@@JorgenPOE apparently steve also has that bug just saw it at 65500 depth xD
so the name Opulent Fossil, plus GGG stating that MF was removed from uniques to be able to open it up on rare slots and make it easier for more builds to engage with makes me think it's gonna be MF related.
one thing about the currency exchange is that bulk pricing will probably no longer be a thing. Because the qol of bulk trading is built into the system now
Noice. Affliction was my first league. Didn’t play Necropolis as it looked meh but next league looks like it will cook.
I’ll def be trying the shield crush league starter. Looking fwd to following along :)
Cheers man. I'm keen to see how it plays out 😁
I'm expecting price of things like fossils or oils etc... would drop since now that it's so much easier to buy/sell through currency exchange. Do you think that might be the case?
Not necessarily. That doesn't dictate supply or demand. If anything the supply may not be keep up to demand because of the volume of players that farm delve is quite limited
Thank you very much for another video. I follow your videos through automatic subtitles on UA-cam because I don't speak English, if possible in the new guide videos, can you add a summary of the strategy again in the description? This helps me a lot, as translated subtitles are sometimes confusing.
This will be my second league in delve, I'm still a beginner but your channel helps me a lot, thank you very much.
I'll be working on one in the next few days for delve 😉
the fastest way to farm curiosity now? I feel like the drop rate is non existant. How many ahuatotlis per hour do you get? at 250-350 with average build. Any tips to get more?
700 depth architect has a pretty consistent spawn rate. You got to gow deeper if your build can handle it
@@JorgenPOE well it's more about getting temples, i feel like i'm getting auls more, is this rng? Any secret tech to discover cities? I just tend to skip long encounters like azurite III ones.
@@divinityai It's RNG, sometimes you just have bad luck in finding them. I know a heap of peeps in discord that got non-stop encounters last league
@@JorgenPOE also weapons nodes in delve are just broken, 0 mobs and can't progress, find 4 of these already today
Are you sure the new chisels will drop in cities? They are called Maven's chisel afterall?
They droped from maven invitation in the showcase and name kinda tells it. I think won't be in delve.
No clue. Could be invitations, could be cuties, nothing has been provided to us to assume otherwise
Now you can delve and send slaves to do your maps pog.
If the map runners can generate sulphite for you, that might actually be the move.
Im still going delve again, but im targeting cities this time mainly for chisels and maps. My settlers will never run out they will be stocked to the brim :D
haha, bulk farming ;) That's what I also do. Faustus is gonna be a busy man this league hahaha
@2:15 yes!! Adorned is effectively been deleted from the game unless some people seek the perfect role..that is less than 2% of those who used it in this league
So whats the conclusion? Is delving still good ?
Yep
Bill Paxton hahaha. Nice edit man
The weirdest "Delve Nerf" was Packed with Energy becoming a timed buff lmao, why would they even do that?
Because it was mostly used by non-delvers to buff their mapping. MF builds and what not
@@TheOzQ wouldn't a numbers nerf be more reasonable in this case?
@@jamessunderlandseventh7410 imo it should've been reworked into something that only delvers benefit from but I guess devs wanted delvers to be able to rush all the sulphite nodes quickly, go new map and repeat until full stock of sulphite.
Props for Bill Paxton tribute 🥰
The chisels drop from maven encounters you can see it in the trailer
Probs right, but I like to stay positive. I speculated because there's no information not confirming what my opinion is. Everything is a possibility
@@JorgenPOEfair chance of mapping supplies from map chests. Big demand for other fossils for armour crafting on the new bases too. It really depends what gold coin rates are like, I wanna get my settlement rolling so I can hire Steve.
profitable or not, am going for 1000 depth delve this league no matter what 😄
I was wondering about this one?
The following Scarabs can no longer be obtained: (...) Sulphite Scarab of Greed
If there is no change to the atlas passives, it will take considerably longer to get sulphite. I have been a delve enjoyer for a while now and I hope it will be fine as always :)
poeplanner.com/atlas-tree 3.25 atlas is up, they're still the same, it should be fine.
The big buff to melee Is makeing me wonder if I should start a bonesh jugg, but evry1's going to be melee...😅
Good work with your posivity 😊
Boneshatter barely got buffed considering what it lost elsewhere it is most likely the same or slightly worse than before.
so many possible new builds and people still stinking about boneshatter smh
@@404404HunterI have never player It 😅
amazing one mate, thank you! you restored my hopes of Delving!!! is boneshatter still great for league start and go delve?
Yep. Should be fine. Then switch to complex trauma later on
For my curiosity what restored your hope in this video? No crafting league (not totally true) like 90% of leagues? Trade in game to eco... 10s to make a trade? The truth is Delve is highly nerfed, we still can make money but will be C Tier farming method. Just hope they will buff it next league (and i think they will).
@@antoinemeyer9464 what you just said is what everybody jumps to when they read the changes in the patch notes every league. I disagree, but we are all entitled to our own view
I remember the first time i saw Steve I laughed my ass off. 😂
People are gonna do the 3 to 1 unique with low rolled adorned more now, chasing the perfect roll for the max res breakpoint. The price may very well increase because of that.
Exactly.
You couldn't trade them 3:1 in before.
@@VividFlash yeah just realized that, yeah, you can't 3:1 them. But the point on perfect rolls is right
Damn you scuba steve!
Guys which build will be good for delve this league?
Recombinators are gonna make delve mods really good, no?
Possibly yes
Did you forget about the new fossil?
Nope, just don't know enough about it yet.
Delve isn’t death 💀! You can find valuable and strong fracture items like minions are aggressive.
Definitely, plus the fossil market should be awesome this league.
I'm coming back, baby!
We need to Jorg all over delve this league
Nerfed already - Adorned now 100% (previous 150%)
Predictable
With simulacrum changes I expect many people to spam Simulacrums, which also prints out a ton of fossils so that could affect the fossil prices, thankfully the special node fossils and resonators cannot be obtained from it. I really hope one day they will make fossils delve exclusive, there was a time when legion farm was a meta where You got so much fossils from legion that Delve became the worst place to farm fossils and it made no sense for me
Will single socket resonators even have a use anymore?
yep, perfect fossils are only 1 fossil and its not a crafting league like necropolis. So delve stands out as one of the strongest meta crafting mechanics as per anny other league.
@@JorgenPOE As you started in your own video, perfect fossils are removed ?
@@joshuagerber8362 renamed to opulent - functionality changed. (so Yes)
I'm a pretty new player and haven't done much past the campaign and white maps and I'm hoping to dive into delve this league. I know you have delve guides but do you have anything for new players to show how to transition from the campaign into delving? I'm guessing you have to do some mapping before you get your delve econ started but that's just a guess. Maybe a video isn't needed here and it's just a simple answer to the question but anything you have would be great. I've always finished the campaign and felt lost and never have been able to enjoy a full league because I aimlessly do some maps without knowing how to get my gear sorted and how to get into endgame content and then quit shortly afterwards. This seems like it could be the last league before POE2 so I'm really going to try to give my all on this one. Cheers.
I'm working on a series this week for this. I might put this on my list to put something together for you
@@JorgenPOE That'll be a huge help, wasn't sure if something like that existed or not. Look forward to it!
curiosity was around 60% of profit for me, Aul drops 20%, Something must replace it.
Friendship is expected to drop from Argus. So save up all those offerings that delve gives and blast lab room 1 on days Argus is there. It's boring but dead easy for any build that goes well in delve.
LOL poor steve was all by himself and he STILL got nerfed. no one is safe this league. RIP RF which silently being phased out
I think high end players are going to be salty about losing a lot of the premium on bulk sales.
I got no issues with that, I think it'll be easier to flip currency quickly and craft
We need a ''Delve is fine'' t-shirt just in case.
hideout warrior league
Thanks Steve 🤣
my only reason to delve without pure bosses is gone :/
Nerfed to finally stop SHITSTAIN_STEVE_RETURNS!
Everyone loves Steve! Dude is an absolute Beast! also, Steve will be back. He didn't run delve so that he could make profit on perfect fossils lol. He ran it for the challenge.
@@down-the-rabbit-hole I need to finally check out his build, I postponed it for so long.
GGG changed delve, so now it is just one continuous loop.
Delve already wasn't a profitable mechanic in comparison with the meta last league, you run it only for fun in the end of the day imo. Hopefully it will get a touch in the future
It's pretty profitable. How'd do you think us delvers run mirror level builds to push deep?
As said last night I disagree, I don't believe Delve is 'dead' but nerfed in terms of profits but I hope I'm wrong, as you know I love delving and love the delving community.
End of the day its just an opinion and really completely out of our hands, if a meta build comes out with Aul amulet, auls go up, if people skip over adorn this league, curiousity goes down, If people think Delves dead, Delve items will be higher in demand. Truth is we wont know until were into 3.25.
Adorned hasn't been around long. Delve was decent before, it's still going to be decent.
Please run delve, i need auls uprising. Let me send u currency
Delve is fine if you look for a conservative strategy, its a guaranteed profit. But if you look at div/h then delve is on the bottom and its sucks very hard compared to other strats
If you're going deeper, it's very profitable. Got to ask yourself how deep delvers afford mirror tier gear man
@@JorgenPOE I'm not saying you don't make a mirror eventually,but you make it faster with other strategies ...ggg should make fossils delve only to bring some exclusivity to it....
bad farm delve this league?
It'll be profitable
People get too bent when you touch their currency gain. Its insane that people care so much about something that resets every 3ish months. I am happy if i make 20 divines in a league.
I think one of the biggest buffs is recombinatilors are back
Yeah. And that means slam fossils and recombinating will be a thing
delve was nerfed into the ground long before this patch.
It became dead to 90% of the player base when they put mana suckers in there
This is a crafting league. Super easy access to crafting materials!
Well there will be some crafting, but not NEAR what there was last league. Last league was a pure crafting league. At least this league one can make some good amount of loot by doing the league mechanic, which wasn't the case last league. And with MF nerf and Barrel nerf the economy should be in much better shape this league compared to last.
It's not a crafting league. You can rune craft etc, but it nothing like necropolis
@@JorgenPOEIn a way, yeah, but these new bases mean rare armour surpasses a lot of favoured uniques.
Delve dead
Lol, it's not. All delvers are gonna be making mad profit this league
Any chance of a cyclone delve build this league? All the melee buffs should also effect cyclone i would suspect
Hi risk build video is on its way. I need to make some pobs