Before the 'Rebel In The Pool' outrage boils over, remember that you can fake things in video. The camera that went in the water was a second, non-functioning Rebel brought into the store during the same promotion. It had a broken lens on it as well. The Rebel we reviewed is still functioning, we might use it as a time-lapse camera. Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV People watch James Bond's movies where each movie they destroy millions of dollars worth of cars and they find it awesome, but when you throw an old camera, they get mad. Imagine if you actually said: yep guys, that wasn't fake, the camera I threw on the pool was the working one. Wow, people are weird. Awesome video, as always.
Too many people get caught up in specs instead of working on their actual photography. Here's a hint: no amount of tech is going to fix your poor compositions and subject matter.
My dad hoards his camera gear, so when I went to him in high school looking for a camera I could learn with, the Digital Rebel was what he pulled out. With that camera, the 18-55mm, and an adapted Takumar 55mm f1.8, off I went. I totally understand this nostalgia thing. Despite its clunkiness and its slowness I owe that camera a lot. Loved this video, very close to home for me.
I have had this camera for about 10 years and it has been a great camera. Now I am just a hobbyist photographer so I couldnt justify buying the latest tech in digital dslr but the host does make a meaningful arguments for upgrading. Great video.
Cue everyone complaining about tossing a camera that's unsellable into the pool... Anyway. Was waiting for Jordan to show up, stare at the camera for five seconds, and say, "Needs a headphone jack." :P
In 2003 some people were still buying film SLR cameras. Film wasn't dead yet. The digital photography had started since early 90's but for a reasonable cost film quality was better in 2003 but by far less convenient than digital sensors.
I was 16 years old when I used my first interchangeable lens camera, the original Digital Rebel, to shoot sports photos for my high school yearbook. A lot of good memories with that camera.
I use this camera aswell, it takes great shots with a nice lense and knowing what you're doing. His photo's looked absolutely nothing like the ones I take, mine are far sharper and nicer, dunno what he's doing wrong :/
Crispy Biscuit which lens do you use with yours? I have picked up one of these Rebels and not sure what lens to shoot with. I am using it for day to day shooting. Nature walks, birthday parties, etc. Thanks!
IVe been using it also as my only camera since 2011. I was 14 when i bought it and ive taken some awesome pics with it. I just recently bought a 80D but i keep my rebel as a back up and i just love it. reminds me that i can get beautiful shots with older cheaper tech. Id love to get a few more working to have just to have around.
I bought my 300 D on the goodwill auction site back in 2010, it had 200,000 on the shutter. I learned to shoot back yard birds and then wildlife for four years, while I accumulated knowledge and equipment. The 300 D was built like a tank and you did have the option of HDR to push the dynamic range. My 300 D became my backup back in 2014 and died this Winter with over 300,000 shutter count. It's a great camera to learn on.
I still miss my first DSLR, the Pentax K10D. Had to sell it to afford the K-x, which was a great camera, but it was sad to ship the K10D away. It had 10 megapixels, and it was enough. When I got the K-5 I got 16 which was quite a bit more, and I had than when I left Pentax for Fujifilm with the X-T1 and got 16 there as well. Then I went for the Samsung NX1 which has 28. And that wasn't the reason I went for the NX1, it was the great image quality for video and the slow motion. But seeing that my old lenses still were sharp at 28 megapixels (even my Pentax K 135mm f/2.5) made me really appreciate the ability to crop in a lot if needed. But I still want my K10D back as well.
Awesome video guys. As always. Please please please... Make more comparison old to new video like this again. I love and appreciate seeing old tech to new tech. Only please, as others are saying... Don't junk an old camera cause it's old, give it to someone who can appreciate it for what it is... A device that captures life.
Lol. I just found my old Digital Rebel, popped in a 511 battery, and in an insanely small CF card. Wow, it's so cool. Still takes great photos. I've got over 1200 photos from the early 2000s showing my very young (now grown)kids. Love it!
I appreciate this video! Thank you! Why do I appreciate it? Because I own TWO original Digital Rebels - both purchased used, and each for less than $70. I love them for what they can do, and accept them for what they can't do. One body sits in my camera bag as a last ditch backup. My experience with them is somewhat different from what you described; The pictures I saw in this video appeared to be taken through kit lenses, because I had the same experience with mine. Kit lens shots from my Digital Rebels look like mud, and didn't edit well in Lightroom - even when shot in RAW. But it's interesting to note that prime lenses can produce exceptional shots from this 6.3mp sensor which, by the way, is the same one as the Canon 10D at the time. In fact, a popular hack on these is to update the firmware to the 10D; the firmware adds ISO 3200 capability, and all sorts of custom features that can expand the device's capabilities. JPG on these cameras at ISO 3200 is virtually unusable in my opinion (or best presented when converted to Black & White), but when shot in RAW they are workable. Both of my Digital Rebels have worked flawlessly after the 10D firmware update. Now I do agree that the playback on the Digital Rebel is painfully slow. I freak the cameras out sometimes when shooting in RAW faster than it can process. I finally burned out one of my DSLR bodies last week (Oh darn...I used up a $70 camera! :) ) I get it, that the technology is not the same as my new DSLRs. Even with 2003 technology, they work today and they are sturdy. Consider that the Digital Rebel can function as an EXCELLENT training camera for a kid. It gives them the form and function of a DSLR without the added expense of a higher-end device - or the cost of film. They are also nice to take along when the surroundings would put your more-expensive gear at risk. I discovered that the Digital Rebel shines in one particular world: RAW, ISO 100, Manual setting, 1/125, f10, EF-S equivalent 10-24mm lens, and External flash. The colors and the clarity I get from this flash setup are excellent, considering the camera cost $70. Much of my photography occurs in poorly lit bars and concert venues. With the Digital Rebel I can get a great flash shot without having to deal with a 20mb photo file (RAW files are about 6mb) I find they are super handy when simply capturing the subject is more important than the size of the image. Besides, a 3072 pixel image (especially shot in RAW) can still produce a nice print - easily 5x7 or 8x10. While I don't agree with some of your descriptions related to image quality, I will say that everything else was dead on. There are TONS of these still for sale on eBay and Goodwill; in my opinion, they are a better investment than a comparable point & shoot. It's pretty hard to go wrong for 70 bucks :) Thanks again!
I find these types of reviews very fascinating. Starting out with a mirror less camera, I take photos the way the camera (a6000) likes to take photos. Meaning I use Eye af, afc lock tracking, and manual focusing with focus peaking and magnification exclusively! I'm interested now to see if new inavation change the way I take and compose photographs now.
Interesting video. Thanks a million. The only issue I take is that the exposures you showcased with the Canon 300D, looked way too soft or seriously out of focus. I do have this camera with the same lens you used and my photos came out razor sharp. So I do not know if your presets were properly preset, but the Canon 300D is legendary in generating wonderful photographs. Thanks again, Tony
I like these videos: looking back at where we've come from. It puts perspective on things we take for granted and gripe about today. For example I still have my first digital camera, the Sony DSC-P10, a mini brick of a PnS from 2004. It has a grand total of 5MP, a 1-inch rear screen, an OVF (parallax galore), max. ISO of 400, an f/2.8 - f/5.2 lens with 3x zoom, and it uses Sony's proprietary Memory Stick. It felt like the bees knees coming from film to digital. We've come a long way since then: EVFs, WiFi, bigger sensors, hybrid AF, 60fps, 4K, etc etc. Yet at the same time things haven't changed that much. Existing features like megapixels have increased, rear screens have gotten bigger, frames-per-second have gotten faster, ISOs have gotten higher, devices have gotten smaller and so on, but the core the device - that core experience - is still there.
Ah man, my first DSLR was a 350D back in 2007 now I'm a working pro I owe a lot to that camera. Made me a bit sad when you threw it in the water :( TBh when you factor in the cost.. a 40D is definitely still useable today and you can pick those up for £100… lot of camera for the money even if its 8 years old Great review.
I still have a 350d and I still use it, with the original batteries. I bought it more than 15 years ago brand new. There is a saying that a good photographer can take a good photo with either a good or bad camera. And if you think that is crazy in 2021, I am still thinking to downgrade to 300d to experience even a more pure form of photography.
+sykskysyk Yeah, dissing what he really doesn't know anything about. I saw the video on the D800E VS DP Merril video, he whined through the whole thing. The results were what mattered. Landscape shooters don't care about high ISO.
at 4:00 you say the canon digital rebel has the same video capabilities ,I mean are you talking about the same camera as at the beginning? the eos 300d, i thought it couldn't even shoot video or have a live view lcd
Well, I was shocked to find this video! I'm in the process of replacing my 300D with a T6i w/STM lenses. I enjoyed the video until the end when you dunked the 300D. Although I haven't used the 300D regularly for several years, I recently took it out for a day of shooting and found it's quite usable with my old EF glass. I intend to keep it as a backup to the T6i, at least until I upgrade to an 80D or similar.
OMG Chris I just was shocked and left a little freaked out when you tossed the camera in the pool lolIt's good to see you on holidays though, you have really earned some time off from all the hard workyou put in every day.watching you shoot all these images makes me wonder if your getting the itch to maybe do your own little website with lots of your images?anyway I hope your having a wonderful time on holidays and hope your getting lots relaxation and hopeyour having lots of fun and I will guess it was Crème de mint in the wine glass have a fun and wonderful week :)
Interesting review. Another way this could have be done would be to find a super cheep camera that the old expensive one does compare to. Could an Ixus 160 beat it on performance?
I had a 400D as my first DSLR. It still holds the crown for some of the nicest looking photos I've taken. The only real limiting issue was the ISO limit, that's it!
Love the Shuswap area, I'm there all the time. My father-in-law lives in Tappen. My first Canon digital was a D30. wonderful files for a 3MP camera. Still look at those files with wonder on how they got the most from so little.
Hey Jordan, your video editing skill is something that inspires me to start learning video. Every time TCSTV uploads a new video, it seemed that the footages are getting better and better. Just an idea for a future upload, can you maybe do a video on how you process the footages? Like color grading, effects, etc? Thanks! Excellent video on the 300D as well, thanks Chris for the review!
This was a fun video to watch - I practically fell on the floor laughing when the camera was chucked into the pool! Keep up the great videos, I often watch them even if I don't care about (aboot?) the product under review, you guys are that good!
I saw that camera toss into the pool thing coming from a mile off. Bit tacky but nice symmetry on the scene. My first digital camera was a Casio point and shoot back in 2005. I remember being happy with it, but a lot's changed in a decade.
The next time you feel like throwing a working Canon dslr into a pool... send it person without one like me. Ive wanted one for a decade and that was depressing to watch...
+optoomistic They're not throwing it away. They're using it as part of content generation. It's like people who complain about "wasted tech" on WillItBlend - they make a lot of money off their youtube channel and it's a huge part of their marketing.
I will say that this is the best head to head comparison I've seen on a camera so far. I feel that on the Canon website, there is not enough definitive information to distinguish camera differences despite the compare feature. The similarities are usually 90-95% the same and you're looking for a reason to get one model or the other. The one take home here is that we don't need to worry about incremental increases in MPs as this is not really a factor in 2016 and beyond. Thanks for this.
this is one of ur best videos till now ...it shows how cameras do a great job even after many years .Ya a sports photographer will need a better camera ....but in my opinion the best camera is the one you feel most comfortable with and enjoy using ....I damn love my d3200 ..heck I wish it had a tilty flippy screen but that ain't important .image quality is freaking amazing and comparable to some of the best cameras out there
Absolutely true about ISO performance and dynamic range improvements in the newer digital cameras. I've still got a 450D (Xsi) and the 12MP resolution is OK, but the D800E I replaced it with really makes the Xsi show its age. Many good pics with the Xsi but much better ones with the D800E. Throwing the 300D in the pool is a good demonstration of the fact that the old technology makes a better paper weight than a flotation device so the 300D is still good for something. :)
i still have canon 300d, also have newer version 600d which i use now, but even now and then i still use 300D for nostalgia and it takes nice photos, nothing wrong with old rebel. You can give a good photographer 300d and it will take much better photo then bad photographer with canon 5d, its the man behind the camera and not camera what really counts.
I know the Feeling. My first DSLR was an 8 megapixel Canon Rebel XT. I own a more modern Canon SL1 (also called the 100D outside North America), but I still take out the Rebel XT for nostalgia. For the record the Rebel XT still works as good as the day it was purchased.
Funny story, and a question or two. I actually use this camera to shoot! Yep, I know it's old, but it's the best I can get and use. I'm really wanting to get a Lumiz G7, but i don't have the money. Anyways, I was wondering how you set up the video features on this camera? I have been using it for about 6 months, and have found no info on video. Also, great video, it's good to know my crappy low light performance isn't my fault!
This camera doesnt have video capabilities. Ive been using it for the last 7 years and still do today. They didnt start implementing video capabilities in the rebel series until i think the Xs(1000D) and the XSi(450D) so the rebel(300D), xt(350D), xti(400D) dont have video
That was my first DSLR. What I appreciate about this camera is its lightweight in a big case. All newer rebels got smaler and smaller loosing the good grip with heavy lass the 300D offers.
One thing I really miss in Rebels, old and new, are larger viewfinders. Even more professional cameras are lagging behind here. Even the tiny Olympus OM film SLRs had better viewfinder than even todays most fancy SLR. BUMMER
+TechLeatherCraft upon checking the specs of that camera, i found out that m10 is a lower end version of the eos m3(old 18 mp sensor, old AF system, and fewer controls), so sorry im not interested with that camera. thanks btw
I've still got my 300d, although I must admit I don't use it any more. I do still use my 5d which is a ten year old camera and I get good results from it. So maybe the 300d was too early in the dSLR evolution to be relevant now, but the Canon 5d and the Nikon D700 are still amazing cameras.
i think if you had chosen i slightly newer slightly up market camera like the 20D you have found it a lot closer to today camera with focus speed,wakeup speed, buffer etc
+chris probably a lot..i liked the vid.. maybe you could do one now and again like it with old classic digital camera ..back to my old 20D the only real thing that really dates it is the 1.8inch LCD...mind you its still bigger than the screen on my Canon A1
I started my DSLR phase with a Nikon D100, which was 6mp, and none of my clients EVER complained about any lack of sharpness. Now my main cameras of choice are Sony mirrorless, but I still use many of my old lenses, and still retain a couple of Canon bodies. It'll be interesting to compare advances over the LAST twelve years with what's going to happen over the NEXT twelve.
Im actually planning on making a video about how a 9 year old enthusiast canon DSLR vs entry level point and shoot to see how far tech has come but i dont know if people would be interested to watch anything like it!
A newcomer to digital photography, I bought a 300D body recently to make use of three old manual lenses I used with my SLR film camera. Used on AV, the results are very good, good enough for me anyway, especially if you subscribe to the view that it is not the camera that takes the photographs. I have seen what I am doing described as like using film photography with the facility to instantly review the images. Although it is only a six MP camera, because the largest size I print is A4, I have had some excellent prints as well. This has given me a very cheap introduction to digital photography.
We had a saying in my photography group: "It's YOU, not the camera." Doesn't matter the age or value of the equipment. If it's a camera, you can practice with it. I had an old Canon Digital Rebel XT (350d) with kit lens lying around. I just gave it to my younger sister as her first DSLR. She is running around practicing with it now. It doesn't matter what she is using, but she is practicing technique. These old cameras can have a value beyond money. Tossing one in a pool is wasteful and ridiculous.
5:50 Today, it's not really about larger prints anymore. It's about hi-res screens. I still have a 6 MP EOS 10D, a 10 MP EOS 40D, and a 16 MP E-PL5. And on my 27" 2560x1440 screen, I need the 16 MP to get really sharp images. The 10MP 40D already shows a slight softness, let alone the 10D. For large prints, the 10D is still good enough though.
+TheCameraStoreTV "if viewed from the same distance", exactly. And that's not what's happening now. While viewing distances for prints remain the same, the screens we use for both computers and TV's get larger and larger without changing the viewing distance. And yes, 2560x1440 is only 3.5MP, but since a Bayer-pattern only has 25% red and 25% blue pixels, you need 3,5x4 (14MP) to get full detail for every pixel.
Just dug out my old 300D, gave it to my daughter for her school project. Battery is on its last legs, picked up 8 GB SDCard....good to go. She is having a great time....even the uploading to the PC takes ages but she likes the expectations of her work. Friend is giving her a 210mm sigma and I would like to get a period 500mm (depends on price) old school can still be a training tool.
I was just considering buying one, and you threw it in the pool !!!!!!!, the question is would it produce a better video image than my Sony Xperia Z5 ( 20 Mpix ish) in pretty bad light at a gig? or would I be better off spending my £65 on something else.
I still have, and use the Canon 300D. Only got a Sony A7ii a few weeks ago and obviously that's my main go to camera now, but I haven't discarded the Canon yet and it still comes out with me. My Intention is to use it as a Timelapse body until it dies, doing what it was born to do.
I brought a few 300D's for $30-100 with 2 or 3 lens, extra batteries etc. I give them to my grand children and they love using them (all of them less then 9yo). We take them canoeing, bushwalking, beach etc and I'm not worried. They use them freely and experiment with them. Even though they are old they use them carefully and respectfully getting great shots. Slowly they are learning more and more about the cameras and photography. Like all cameras there is a place and use in the world for them and it ain't the bottom of a pool.
Before the 'Rebel In The Pool' outrage boils over, remember that you can fake things in video. The camera that went in the water was a second, non-functioning Rebel brought into the store during the same promotion. It had a broken lens on it as well. The Rebel we reviewed is still functioning, we might use it as a time-lapse camera.
Jordan @ TCSTV
I liked the video all because you tossed a camera into a pool lol. nice toss!
+TheCameraStoreTV Thank you, I almost cried at the end.
+TheCameraStoreTV My heart skipped a beat when you threw the camera in the pool.
I came to the comments to complain about that. I said aloud, "You could have given that to someone." Haha, glad to see it was faked. Nice video.
+TheCameraStoreTV People watch James Bond's movies where each movie they destroy millions of dollars worth of cars and they find it awesome, but when you throw an old camera, they get mad. Imagine if you actually said: yep guys, that wasn't fake, the camera I threw on the pool was the working one. Wow, people are weird.
Awesome video, as always.
Absolutely no intention of getting rid of my 300D. Still love it.
Too many people get caught up in specs instead of working on their actual photography. Here's a hint: no amount of tech is going to fix your poor compositions and subject matter.
My dad hoards his camera gear, so when I went to him in high school looking for a camera I could learn with, the Digital Rebel was what he pulled out. With that camera, the 18-55mm, and an adapted Takumar 55mm f1.8, off I went. I totally understand this nostalgia thing. Despite its clunkiness and its slowness I owe that camera a lot. Loved this video, very close to home for me.
Oh I had one of these! Great video - that was a game changer when it came out.
It was the camera that started my journey into digital photography! My mom now has it.. and still uses it to take shots around the house.
The Art of Photography I still use it as my main with the 50mm f1.8 2 STM 😂
I have had this camera for about 10 years and it has been a great camera. Now I am just a hobbyist photographer so I couldnt justify buying the latest tech in digital dslr but the host does make a meaningful arguments for upgrading. Great video.
Thanks Chris and Jordan. Love the nostalgia, and love the context and perspective this video evokes.
I bet you that 300D still works after the dip in that pool ;)
the macro/close up shots looked very nice
Some kid in Africa could've eaten that Rebel!
+DigitalPatriot sell your camera and feed them
+DigitalPatriot Not good for the teeth.
DigitalPatriot Nonsense!
feed them with actual money? ok
I'm still using my 300d - Jan 2018.
Don't worry. Still better than any iPhone-ographer :)
Ha. Tell that to Alex Kilbee
Cue everyone complaining about tossing a camera that's unsellable into the pool...
Anyway. Was waiting for Jordan to show up, stare at the camera for five seconds, and say, "Needs a headphone jack." :P
In 2003 some people were still buying film SLR cameras. Film wasn't dead yet. The digital photography had started since early 90's but for a reasonable cost film quality was better in 2003 but by far less convenient than digital sensors.
It's waterproof! it still works
I was 16 years old when I used my first interchangeable lens camera, the original Digital Rebel, to shoot sports photos for my high school yearbook. A lot of good memories with that camera.
I use this camera, and it's 2016. :(
I use this camera aswell, it takes great shots with a nice lense and knowing what you're doing. His photo's looked absolutely nothing like the ones I take, mine are far sharper and nicer, dunno what he's doing wrong :/
Crispy Biscuit which lens do you use with yours? I have picked up one of these Rebels and not sure what lens to shoot with. I am using it for day to day shooting. Nature walks, birthday parties, etc. Thanks!
IVe been using it also as my only camera since 2011. I was 14 when i bought it and ive taken some awesome pics with it. I just recently bought a 80D but i keep my rebel as a back up and i just love it. reminds me that i can get beautiful shots with older cheaper tech. Id love to get a few more working to have just to have around.
2019 here hahaha
@@tenminutetech8239 He's probably a shit photographer. Too bad, most asians aren't.
I Have the Canon 300D and I stil think it si good
Man this was a fun and fascinating video. That said my heart did sink when you tossed the digital rebel into the pool.
Good video, why is the Martini glass empty bro?
Great video guys!
That cut to the shot at 9:55 cracked me up, who designed that shot? Pretty cool setup there with the symmetry and whatnot.
+Hammerhaus Kennel Thanks! It was a fun location.
Jordan @ TCSTV
+Hammerhaus Kennel
The asymmetry of the uneven chair arm lengths was weird.
Robert LeBlanc Sarcasm? ;-)
+Hammerhaus Kennel
For realz. Take a look.
+Hammerhaus Kennel That was a great shot.
I bought my 300 D on the goodwill auction site back in 2010, it had 200,000 on the shutter. I learned to shoot back yard birds and then wildlife for four years, while I accumulated knowledge and equipment. The 300 D was built like a tank and you did have the option of HDR to push the dynamic range. My 300 D became my backup back in 2014 and died this Winter with over 300,000 shutter count. It's a great camera to learn on.
John Chaney how do you find the shutter count on the 300D?
I still miss my first DSLR, the Pentax K10D. Had to sell it to afford the K-x, which was a great camera, but it was sad to ship the K10D away. It had 10 megapixels, and it was enough. When I got the K-5 I got 16 which was quite a bit more, and I had than when I left Pentax for Fujifilm with the X-T1 and got 16 there as well. Then I went for the Samsung NX1 which has 28. And that wasn't the reason I went for the NX1, it was the great image quality for video and the slow motion. But seeing that my old lenses still were sharp at 28 megapixels (even my Pentax K 135mm f/2.5) made me really appreciate the ability to crop in a lot if needed. But I still want my K10D back as well.
+Alexander Rex Evensen The K10 was a spectacular camera. Almost made me switch to Pentax back in the day.
Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV Yeah, I had a great time with it. I was genuinely sad when I sold it :P
+Alexander Rex Evensen My mentor had one of those, I started on a Nikon D40 and loved it, and sold it when I upgraded to the Nikon D90 back in 2009
+Daz X i still have my d40 and i love it although i dont use it, probably should sell it so someone else can enjoy it, anyway great camera!
+Alexander Rex Evensen We were out shooting Fall colors today with my wife's K10D. Pictures look great!
Do you think this camera is better then phone cameras today I was gifted this camera as my first camera
Awesome video guys. As always. Please please please... Make more comparison old to new video like this again. I love and appreciate seeing old tech to new tech. Only please, as others are saying... Don't junk an old camera cause it's old, give it to someone who can appreciate it for what it is... A device that captures life.
Lol. I just found my old Digital Rebel, popped in a 511 battery, and in an insanely small CF card. Wow, it's so cool. Still takes great photos. I've got over 1200 photos from the early 2000s showing my very young (now grown)kids. Love it!
I appreciate this video! Thank you! Why do I appreciate it? Because I own TWO original Digital Rebels - both purchased used, and each for less than $70. I love them for what they can do, and accept them for what they can't do. One body sits in my camera bag as a last ditch backup.
My experience with them is somewhat different from what you described; The pictures I saw in this video appeared to be taken through kit lenses, because I had the same experience with mine. Kit lens shots from my Digital Rebels look like mud, and didn't edit well in Lightroom - even when shot in RAW. But it's interesting to note that prime lenses can produce exceptional shots from this 6.3mp sensor which, by the way, is the same one as the Canon 10D at the time. In fact, a popular hack on these is to update the firmware to the 10D; the firmware adds ISO 3200 capability, and all sorts of custom features that can expand the device's capabilities. JPG on these cameras at ISO 3200 is virtually unusable in my opinion (or best presented when converted to Black & White), but when shot in RAW they are workable. Both of my Digital Rebels have worked flawlessly after the 10D firmware update. Now I do agree that the playback on the Digital Rebel is painfully slow. I freak the cameras out sometimes when shooting in RAW faster than it can process. I finally burned out one of my DSLR bodies last week (Oh darn...I used up a $70 camera! :) ) I get it, that the technology is not the same as my new DSLRs.
Even with 2003 technology, they work today and they are sturdy.
Consider that the Digital Rebel can function as an EXCELLENT training camera for a kid. It gives them the form and function of a DSLR without the added expense of a higher-end device - or the cost of film. They are also nice to take along when the surroundings would put your more-expensive gear at risk. I discovered that the Digital Rebel shines in one particular world: RAW, ISO 100, Manual setting, 1/125, f10, EF-S equivalent 10-24mm lens, and External flash. The colors and the clarity I get from this flash setup are excellent, considering the camera cost $70. Much of my photography occurs in poorly lit bars and concert venues. With the Digital Rebel I can get a great flash shot without having to deal with a 20mb photo file (RAW files are about 6mb) I find they are super handy when simply capturing the subject is more important than the size of the image. Besides, a 3072 pixel image (especially shot in RAW) can still produce a nice print - easily 5x7 or 8x10.
While I don't agree with some of your descriptions related to image quality, I will say that everything else was dead on. There are TONS of these still for sale on eBay and Goodwill; in my opinion, they are a better investment than a comparable point & shoot. It's pretty hard to go wrong for 70 bucks :)
Thanks again!
I find these types of reviews very fascinating. Starting out with a mirror less camera, I take photos the way the camera (a6000) likes to take photos. Meaning I use Eye af, afc lock tracking, and manual focusing with focus peaking and magnification exclusively! I'm interested now to see if new inavation change the way I take and compose photographs now.
Fun video! Compare an Sony a100 to an a7s at iso80, NR off. That would be a neat comparison.
Interesting video. Thanks a million. The only issue I take is that the exposures you showcased with the Canon 300D, looked way too soft or seriously out of focus. I do have this camera with the same lens you used and my photos came out razor sharp.
So I do not know if your presets were properly preset, but the Canon 300D is legendary in generating wonderful photographs.
Thanks again,
Tony
Oooh, could you please do the Sony Mavica? It was the first digital camera I ever used, and it fit about 12 images on a floppy disk.
Date 16th November 2019 I've just bought a 300d for my collection and fully intend to use it.
Bought my 300D in 2003, Have upgraded since then, but still use it as a 2nd camera,time lapse etc. Am rather attached to it...
did you guys just directly use a mirror at 4:24 as a bounce board ? lol, or only because the sunlight was so strong...?
Well the camera may be outdated, but what lens did you just waste ? :)
That was mean throwing the old Canon into the pool
I like these videos: looking back at where we've come from. It puts perspective on things we take for granted and gripe about today.
For example I still have my first digital camera, the Sony DSC-P10, a mini brick of a PnS from 2004. It has a grand total of 5MP, a 1-inch rear screen, an OVF (parallax galore), max. ISO of 400, an f/2.8 - f/5.2 lens with 3x zoom, and it uses Sony's proprietary Memory Stick. It felt like the bees knees coming from film to digital.
We've come a long way since then: EVFs, WiFi, bigger sensors, hybrid AF, 60fps, 4K, etc etc. Yet at the same time things haven't changed that much. Existing features like megapixels have increased, rear screens have gotten bigger, frames-per-second have gotten faster, ISOs have gotten higher, devices have gotten smaller and so on, but the core the device - that core experience - is still there.
Ah man, my first DSLR was a 350D back in 2007 now I'm a working pro I owe a lot to that camera. Made me a bit sad when you threw it in the water :(
TBh when you factor in the cost.. a 40D is definitely still useable today and you can pick those up for £100… lot of camera for the money even if its 8 years old
Great review.
"The Canon Digital Rebel's video capabilities are very comparable to for example Nikon DF a very expensive camera." Really good joke! :D
hell, it hangs in there with the canon 5D as well...
This is what im using right now ! :)
I still have a 350d and I still use it, with the original batteries. I bought it more than 15 years ago brand new. There is a saying that a good photographer can take a good photo with either a good or bad camera. And if you think that is crazy in 2021, I am still thinking to downgrade to 300d to experience even a more pure form of photography.
12 years! It does not seem that long ago. Thanks for the video.
5:07 Wow, that Sigma DP Merrill burn...
+sykskysyk but Merrills are incredible at ISO100
+sykskysyk Yeah, dissing what he really doesn't know anything about. I saw the video on the D800E VS DP Merril video, he whined through the whole thing. The results were what mattered. Landscape shooters don't care about high ISO.
What lens did you use to do the macro shots? Super jealous!
+Jack Murdock That was the lovely Tamron 60mm F2. Awesome Macro/Portrait lens.
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV Thanks! You guys should do a follow up review of the nx! Many updates have come out since the original review! W
at 4:00 you say the canon digital rebel has the same video capabilities ,I mean are you talking about the same camera as at the beginning? the eos 300d, i thought it couldn't even shoot video or have a live view lcd
wow awesome review in comparison to today's tech. I really like the form of this old Canon.
great video as always. What microphone are you guys using?
This was my first digital camera and I have such a big soft spot for it. I now shoot on a Sony a7ii but this video makes me want to get another 300d
Well, I was shocked to find this video! I'm in the process of replacing my 300D with a T6i w/STM lenses. I enjoyed the video until the end when you dunked the 300D. Although I haven't used the 300D regularly for several years, I recently took it out for a day of shooting and found it's quite usable with my old EF glass. I intend to keep it as a backup to the T6i, at least until I upgrade to an 80D or similar.
Would love to see you putting your hands on some of those Frankenstein Kodak DCS cameras one day
Search for our Unsung Camera episode with the Kodak NC2000!
@@TheCameraStoreTV we need more! The eos DCS series, 500 or 600 series, maybe even the original DCS 100 with that field radio sized record unit!
OMG Chris I just was shocked and left a little freaked out when you tossed the camera in the pool lolIt's good to see you on holidays though, you have really earned some time off from all the hard workyou put in every day.watching you shoot all these images makes me wonder if your getting the itch to maybe do your own little website with lots of your images?anyway I hope your having a wonderful time on holidays and hope your getting lots relaxation and hopeyour having lots of fun and I will guess it was Crème de mint in the wine glass have a fun and wonderful week :)
Thoughts on the new released, Canon stuff, ex: Canon EOS M10, & G5x ?
That end shot in front of the pool is gorgeous and epic!
4:26 That shot is amazing!
Interesting review. Another way this could have be done would be to find a super cheep camera that the old expensive one does compare to. Could an Ixus 160 beat it on performance?
I had a 400D as my first DSLR. It still holds the crown for some of the nicest looking photos I've taken. The only real limiting issue was the ISO limit, that's it!
You man are one of the best reviewer out there, not only in the photo world.
Love the Shuswap area, I'm there all the time. My father-in-law lives in Tappen.
My first Canon digital was a D30. wonderful files for a 3MP camera. Still look at those files with wonder on how they got the most from so little.
Hey Jordan, your video editing skill is something that inspires me to start learning video. Every time TCSTV uploads a new video, it seemed that the footages are getting better and better. Just an idea for a future upload, can you maybe do a video on how you process the footages? Like color grading, effects, etc? Thanks! Excellent video on the 300D as well, thanks Chris for the review!
This was a fun video to watch - I practically fell on the floor laughing when the camera was chucked into the pool! Keep up the great videos, I often watch them even if I don't care about (aboot?) the product under review, you guys are that good!
Comparison videos with a twist, very well done.
4:00 - Correct me if I'm wrong. I still have my 300D and if I remember correctly it doesn't have video capability.
I saw that camera toss into the pool thing coming from a mile off. Bit tacky but nice symmetry on the scene. My first digital camera was a Casio point and shoot back in 2005. I remember being happy with it, but a lot's changed in a decade.
Video mode? 3:57 What video mode?
The next time you feel like throwing a working Canon dslr into a pool... send it person without one like me.
Ive wanted one for a decade and that was depressing to watch...
I know that feel Bro :(
+optoomistic A decade? Save a dollar a day bud and you can have top of the line whatever you want after a decade :)
+optoomistic They're not throwing it away. They're using it as part of content generation. It's like people who complain about "wasted tech" on WillItBlend - they make a lot of money off their youtube channel and it's a huge part of their marketing.
+optoomistic It wouldn't be even worth the shipping cost
+optoomistic Go to KEH and get one. It couldn't cost anymore than $20.
I will say that this is the best head to head comparison I've seen on a camera so far. I feel that on the Canon website, there is not enough definitive information to distinguish camera differences despite the compare feature. The similarities are usually 90-95% the same and you're looking for a reason to get one model or the other. The one take home here is that we don't need to worry about incremental increases in MPs as this is not really a factor in 2016 and beyond. Thanks for this.
this is one of ur best videos till now ...it shows how cameras do a great job even after many years .Ya a sports photographer will need a better camera ....but in my opinion the best camera is the one you feel most comfortable with and enjoy using ....I damn love my d3200 ..heck I wish it had a tilty flippy screen but that ain't important .image quality is freaking amazing and comparable to some of the best cameras out there
Absolutely true about ISO performance and dynamic range improvements in the newer digital cameras. I've still got a 450D (Xsi) and the 12MP resolution is OK, but the D800E I replaced it with really makes the Xsi show its age. Many good pics with the Xsi but much better ones with the D800E. Throwing the 300D in the pool is a good demonstration of the fact that the old technology makes a better paper weight than a flotation device so the 300D is still good for something. :)
i still have canon 300d, also have newer version 600d which i use now, but even now and then i still use 300D for nostalgia and it takes nice photos, nothing wrong with old rebel. You can give a good photographer 300d and it will take much better photo then bad photographer with canon 5d, its the man behind the camera and not camera what really counts.
I know the Feeling. My first DSLR was an 8 megapixel Canon Rebel XT. I own a more modern Canon SL1 (also called the 100D outside North America), but I still take out the Rebel XT for nostalgia. For the record the Rebel XT still works as good as the day it was purchased.
Love this video. The sound is incredible. How are you micing the set?
Funny story, and a question or two. I actually use this camera to shoot! Yep, I know it's old, but it's the best I can get and use. I'm really wanting to get a Lumiz G7, but i don't have the money. Anyways, I was wondering how you set up the video features on this camera? I have been using it for about 6 months, and have found no info on video. Also, great video, it's good to know my crappy low light performance isn't my fault!
This camera doesnt have video capabilities. Ive been using it for the last 7 years and still do today. They didnt start implementing video capabilities in the rebel series until i think the Xs(1000D) and the XSi(450D) so the rebel(300D), xt(350D), xti(400D) dont have video
what camera do you use on filming this video ,,the color looks strange unlike any tcs video before
+Junyan “Roger” Liu the skintones definitely seemed a little off
That was my first DSLR. What I appreciate about this camera is its lightweight in a big case. All newer rebels got smaler and smaller loosing the good grip with heavy lass the 300D offers.
This is my first DLR!
Vintage review!!!! So Cooooool!!!
I started looking at the video date....
One thing I really miss in Rebels, old and new, are larger viewfinders. Even more professional cameras are lagging behind here. Even the tiny Olympus OM film SLRs had better viewfinder than even todays most fancy SLR. BUMMER
now that eos m3 is now available in the us i hope you will take time checking that camera and make a video review for it. thanks.
Actually, They just released the Canon EOS M10, today.
+TechLeatherCraft did u mean the eos m3?
+Jade Buaya Nope. Google it. shop.usa.canon.com/shop/en/catalog/eos-m10-ef-m-15-45mm-f3-5-6-3-is-stm-kit-white
+Jade Buaya Also, they have a new G5x. www.ubergizmo.com/2015/10/canon-eos-m10-powershot-g5-x-listed/
+TechLeatherCraft upon checking the specs of that camera, i found out that m10 is a lower end version of the eos m3(old 18 mp sensor, old AF system, and fewer controls), so sorry im not interested with that camera. thanks btw
Awesome video - don't let the scolds and haters get you down.
How did you mic yourself for this Video? Din't see a Lav and some shots were very far away.
I still winced when you chucked that camera away.
+Philip Foster Yeah, that was a digital rev thing to do
Me too!
+jeffry de meyer In fairness, they do silly better at TCS. Remember their camera war videos?
+Philip Foster Well, that one was the other broken unit the store had received. So no worries, the camera is still fine.
Ah my first digital slr.
Still a capable camera within its envelope. And less worrying if you drop it
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I've still got my 300d, although I must admit I don't use it any more. I do still use my 5d which is a ten year old camera and I get good results from it. So maybe the 300d was too early in the dSLR evolution to be relevant now, but the Canon 5d and the Nikon D700 are still amazing cameras.
i think if you had chosen i slightly newer slightly up market camera like the 20D you have found it a lot closer to today camera with focus speed,wakeup speed, buffer etc
But can you imagine the backlash if we threw a broken Canon 20D in the pool!
Chris @ TCSTV
+chris probably a lot..i liked the vid.. maybe you could do one now and again like it with old classic digital camera ..back to my old 20D the only real thing that really dates it is the 1.8inch LCD...mind you its still bigger than the screen on my Canon A1
is it strictly a photography camera or could it be used to film short movies? i'm super new to this camera and cameras in general
I have that kind of camera and I want to use it but I don't know what kind of lens I will buy. can you help me?
I started my DSLR phase with a Nikon D100, which was 6mp, and none of my clients EVER complained about any lack of sharpness. Now my main cameras of choice are Sony mirrorless, but I still use many of my old lenses, and still retain a couple of Canon bodies. It'll be interesting to compare advances over the LAST twelve years with what's going to happen over the NEXT twelve.
what what!!?? my first dslr was rebel xti (350D) and it had no video, did you just say the 300D records video?
they compared it to the Nikon Df m8 :)
I dunno... Seems they were talking about the 300D and I'm also wondering why mine doesn't have video recording. Lol.
Im actually planning on making a video about how a 9 year old enthusiast canon DSLR vs entry level point and shoot to see how far tech has come but i dont know if people would be interested to watch anything like it!
A newcomer to digital photography, I bought a 300D body recently to make use of three old manual lenses I used with my SLR film camera. Used on AV, the results are very good, good enough for me anyway, especially if you subscribe to the view that it is not the camera that takes the photographs. I have seen what I am doing described as like using film photography with the facility to instantly review the images. Although it is only a six MP camera, because the largest size I print is A4, I have had some excellent prints as well. This has given me a very cheap introduction to digital photography.
We had a saying in my photography group: "It's YOU, not the camera." Doesn't matter the age or value of the equipment. If it's a camera, you can practice with it. I had an old Canon Digital Rebel XT (350d) with kit lens lying around. I just gave it to my younger sister as her first DSLR. She is running around practicing with it now. It doesn't matter what she is using, but she is practicing technique. These old cameras can have a value beyond money. Tossing one in a pool is wasteful and ridiculous.
I still use the digital rebel. 9/3/2017
5:50 Today, it's not really about larger prints anymore. It's about hi-res screens. I still have a 6 MP EOS 10D, a 10 MP EOS 40D, and a 16 MP E-PL5. And on my 27" 2560x1440 screen, I need the 16 MP to get really sharp images. The 10MP 40D already shows a slight softness, let alone the 10D. For large prints, the 10D is still good enough though.
+ArumesYT 2560X1440 is still a 3.5 MP display. Prints are a much more demanding format, if viewed at the same distance.
Jordan @ TCSTV
+TheCameraStoreTV "if viewed from the same distance", exactly. And that's not what's happening now. While viewing distances for prints remain the same, the screens we use for both computers and TV's get larger and larger without changing the viewing distance. And yes, 2560x1440 is only 3.5MP, but since a Bayer-pattern only has 25% red and 25% blue pixels, you need 3,5x4 (14MP) to get full detail for every pixel.
Just dug out my old 300D, gave it to my daughter for her school project. Battery is on its last legs, picked up 8 GB SDCard....good to go. She is having a great time....even the uploading to the PC takes ages but she likes the expectations of her work. Friend is giving her a 210mm sigma and I would like to get a period 500mm (depends on price) old school can still be a training tool.
I was just considering buying one, and you threw it in the pool !!!!!!!, the question is would it produce a better video image than my Sony Xperia Z5 ( 20 Mpix ish) in pretty bad light at a gig? or would I be better off spending my £65 on something else.
I still have the Canon 400D, when I tried the GH4 I was surprised how much the MFT sensor killed the 400D specially in dynamic range and colour depth.
how do you take video with the canon 300d ? :(
bought one early 04..was my first DSLR..great camera..just blew up an old pic i took with it 24x36 and it looks incredible.New gear is over rated.
I still have, and use the Canon 300D. Only got a Sony A7ii a few weeks ago and obviously that's my main go to camera now, but I haven't discarded the Canon yet and it still comes out with me. My Intention is to use it as a Timelapse body until it dies, doing what it was born to do.
Gotta love the closed captions. You introduce yourself as Crystals. LOL
I brought a few 300D's for $30-100 with 2 or 3 lens, extra batteries etc. I give them to my grand children and they love using them (all of them less then 9yo). We take them canoeing, bushwalking, beach etc and I'm not worried. They use them freely and experiment with them. Even though they are old they use them carefully and respectfully getting great shots. Slowly they are learning more and more about the cameras and photography. Like all cameras there is a place and use in the world for them and it ain't the bottom of a pool.